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Co-host
Yep.
Matt Jones
Lot most votes on here for your guy Lane Staley of the of Allison.
Co-host
I was gonna say Lane but then I could already just foresee you going. No you don't.
Matt Jones
Well, I mean I don't know. A lot of their songs, they're unplugged.
Co-host
Yes, absolutely.
Matt Jones
Are they the ones that go man in the box.
Caller
Yep.
Co-host
And Rooster and a bunch of hits.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So I can see that. Some old country ones. Vern Gon that's as cool. That's a good one.
Co-host
See the guy sit and go walk in the floor.
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Matt Jones
Yes. He's got. I can tell by the way you dance you're going to love me tonight.
Shannon
I heard that song. Now I know what you're talking about.
Matt Jones
Yes. He's also got one. What is it this ain't my first rodeo. I'm a Vern Gosden fan, by the way. I don't know if I've got to be the only person under the age of 70 that knows Vern Gosden, but I. I do. I do.
Shannon
Like, is he a 70s guy?
Matt Jones
I think he's like 40s.
Co-host
He's not that old.
Matt Jones
He's dead now, but is he dead?
Co-host
I believe so. Well, if not, he's going to be after I mentioned him.
Matt Jones
I'm missing, but I like Vern Gosden. What's his other one I like a lot? This ain't my first rodeo. There's slow burning memory. That's the one. You got to play that.
Co-host
Okay.
Shannon
All right.
Matt Jones
59280, 2287. Let's. People are sending me resumes of coaches that we would have hired at the time. Looking at it, I could see the case for Tommy Lloyd. I guess he had made two sweet sixteens. I think you'd had a hard time getting him to leave Arizona, though. I mean, North Carolina wasn't able to
Shannon
do it, so he had already had success at Arizona.
Matt Jones
At least he'd had 1 Sweet 16.
Shannon
I didn't think he was there that long.
Matt Jones
But you'd had a hard time. I mean, one of the things to think about for all these guys, like, take Tommy Lloyd or even T.J. otzelberger. North Carolina tried to hire both those guys.
Shannon
They didn't get anyone, either one of them.
Matt Jones
So, I mean, maybe we would have had more success than North Carolina.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
But it may be the case that the days of just being able to go and rip whoever you want are not necessarily there.
Shannon
And to be honest, we don't really know. Maybe Mitch Barnhart threw a feeler out there to Tommy Lloyd, and Tommy Lloyd shut it down pretty quick, so he moved on to the next guy.
Matt Jones
Maybe. I don't know. Kyle Tucker said on my podcast that Mitch. He thought Mitch had for three or four years, assumed Scott Drew would take the job. They become, I guess, the year Scott Drew won the national championship. Mitch Barnhart was the head of the selection committee that year, and that was the bubble year. So they spent all that time in the bubble together, and he grew really close to him.
Shannon
So I believe that the. The wife and the grandma shot that down. I think they came to Lexington, toured Lexington, and went back, and apparently that
Matt Jones
was a bad tour.
Shannon
Bad tour.
Matt Jones
Apparently that was a bad tour. I don't know what happened in that, but. But, I mean, Baylor was terrible this year. Who say that would have Gone.
Shannon
That's right. Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, we don't.
Shannon
I don't think they really. That family wanted to live in the UK Fishbowl.
Matt Jones
It is definitely a fishbowl. All right, let's talk about our guy Vince Merrill for a second. So, you know, we got another commitment yesterday in football. Another four star flipped him from North
Shannon
Carolina, from Bill Belichick.
Matt Jones
So Bill Belichick creating the 33rd pro team. Hasn't happened yet. Right. So we get another commitment from North Carolina, this Marquis Bryant safety.
Shannon
Right. I think that is.
Matt Jones
Now, I don't know how many. Four star. It's a bunch of four stars.
Shannon
At least four or five, I think.
Matt Jones
Yes. Out of nowhere, Vince decides to weigh it.
Shannon
After the commitment.
Matt Jones
After the commitment, he tweets. All he says is lol. It's called overspending. Now, do we think that is. That's got to be aimed at Kentucky, right?
Shannon
Shot at us? Yeah, I think it is.
Matt Jones
Now again, I love the guy.
Shannon
I can't.
Matt Jones
I can't help it. He's like one of my friends. I can't help it. And he amuses me. There are very few people that amuse me more than Vic. Every. Like, I just. Vince, one of those people, I just look at him and I start smiling. But what's he doing?
Shannon
I think he's got one eye on what Louisville's doing and one eye on what Kentucky's doing.
Matt Jones
Aren't even recruiting that guy. Like, why does he. What?
Shannon
I think because he still feels like partly responsible for what we do over here because he helped build what we had.
Matt Jones
Okay. But this is a completely different regime. Yep. It's a completely different group of people.
Shannon
You know, he's listening right now.
Matt Jones
I'm sure he is listening. And I love you, Vince. Like, I love you. What's up, big dog? But come on, man, what do you care? Like, what do you care if we get these commit? I mean, is it that. So he worked with Nocta last year. Last year at Louisville.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
So part of it is I wonder if they don't like each other. Maybe. I don't know. Actually, I haven't talked to either one of them about it, but maybe they don't. Maybe they don't see either.
Shannon
I think there was a little I don't want and not. Animosity is not the right word. I think there was just. They just didn't jive the their way they do things.
Matt Jones
Is this scuttlebutt or scoop? Like, I'm not reporting this.
Shannon
I'm not reporting it either.
Matt Jones
Is Ryan Lemon reporting a personal dispute between Nocta and the dog?
Shannon
No, I. I think there was a little struggle. And who has the power and authority?
Matt Jones
Why do you think that?
Shannon
I'm just guessing.
Matt Jones
Well, no, wait a minute. You know, you're not just guessing. How do you know? You do. You do. You know something, man. Look how ready this guy knows things he doesn't want to say.
Shannon
They may never admit it, but I think that's pretty accurate. Accurate?
Matt Jones
So you're saying Nocta and Vince hate each other?
Shannon
No, I did not say that. I think they probably really do like each other. I think their way they do their
Matt Jones
job seems like they get along well. So. So the combination. You think of Vince leaving Kentucky and you reporting that he and Nakta hate each other? I didn't say that. That's what it sounded like. I thought that's what I heard. That's what I. Verbatim.
Shannon
I. I'm pretty sure we rolled the tape back. That never came out of my mouth.
Matt Jones
You think the combination of those two things is what leads Vince to. To tweet things?
Shannon
I think he's got an eye on what we're doing over here.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I like it. I like that he's, you know, I want him to be upset. The crazy thing to me is why he does this. Because he puts that out and then his mentions are just 300 UK fans telling him where he can go. And I don't understand why he wants that. Why does he want that?
Shannon
I think he welcomes the smoke.
Matt Jones
He wants the smoke. There are not many coaches, Shannon, in the country that just seem to like. Like bring it on Twitter Mafia.
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, most coaches are quiet. You know, they have an account, but they really don't tweet a whole lot. Vince is just out there tweeting random
Matt Jones
people during the games. During the games. Remember Vince tweeted Nick Roush in the
Shannon
third quarter from the sideline of the stadium.
Co-host
Hello, Nick Roush.
Matt Jones
Hello, Nick Rouse. There's still eight minutes to go. Nick Rouse, which is still one of
Shannon
the best boss moves I've seen that. I know he's on the other team, but that was pretty. A boss. Boss move.
Matt Jones
So here's the thing. We host Louisville this year. Yes, Vince, I know you're listening. We're beating you, big dog.
Shannon
Yeah. Bring it on.
Matt Jones
In our stadium. Nocta is going to be knocked to you and over. When we win that game and Will Stein, it's going to be a great moment. We're going to finish the season with that. And the tweety that will occur at him.
Shannon
Oh, my. He better turn his phone off for months.
Matt Jones
I. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you Nick Rouse is. He's on. He has to tweet you in the fourth quarter.
Shannon
Yes, he does. Yes. For the press box.
Matt Jones
So, anyway, I enjoyed that. Now, speaking of things I enjoyed, I know people have kind of mixed emotions about him because of the Arkansas shorts, but I can't help but root for my man, Reed Shepherd. 13th Region Kentucky player last night. So if you watch game three got. He had a big turnover at the end of the game.
Shannon
Yes, he did.
Matt Jones
LeBron stole it from him. The Rockets. The Rockets blew the game, but last night he got him back. Rockets up three. Momentum's all in the Lakers favor. He drives down the court, hits a mid range jumper, puts him up five. LeBron takes the ball. He picks LeBrocket. LeBron's pocket.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
Picks him, goes down and gets a dunk. And they win the game. When it was over, Shaq, Kenny and Charles interviewed him, which was very cool to watch. Go read Shepherd. I was happy for him last night.
Shannon
I think right before that, LeBron had kind of shoulder shimmy.
Matt Jones
Yeah, LeBron. Did you see that, Shannon? LeBron kind of gave him a shoulder there.
Co-host
Yeah.
Matt Jones
That was kind of a rude move by the old man.
Shannon
Do it. That kids from the 13th region, they know how to fight. I think I did.
Matt Jones
I don't know if Reed knows.
Shannon
I don't know how to fight LeBron.
Matt Jones
Let me tell you something. I. I like Reed. Reed should not fight LeBron. That ain't going to go well.
Shannon
That's true. You are. You are from the 13th region. I got to be careful. Not everybody fights.
Matt Jones
I'm from. You want me to fight LeBron, but
Shannon
you don't push us around the 13th region.
Matt Jones
I think LeBron can push him around.
Shannon
They ain't pushing around Reed Shepherd.
Matt Jones
Glad he got that steal. I was happy for him. Thirteen regional, which led to a conversation that I wanted to involve you in real quick in my lifetime. Okay, so let's just start since 1980.
Shannon
All right.
Matt Jones
Who would be the starting five for the all 13th region team?
Shannon
Oh, my.
Matt Jones
Okay, so I'm gonna give you my picks, all right? Richie?
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Reed.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
Charles Thomas.
Shannon
Yes. And I thought one more immediately.
Matt Jones
Who?
Shannon
Petrowski.
Matt Jones
Tony Petrowski. So then I think the fifth one is, do you want to go Trent Noah or Nick Sanford? Two Harlan Countians for the last one or Wawa Jones? Wawa's not in my lifetime.
Shannon
That's true.
Matt Jones
Definitely in the all time one. But if we're doing.
Shannon
Who's your fifth one?
Matt Jones
You said Nick Sanford from K. Wood or Trent Noah.
Shannon
Man,
Matt Jones
Nick Sanford for people don't know was great.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
He was played against Richie. Richie will tell you he's. He was. It was. Richie will say it was him. Nick Sanford and Alan Houston were the best players in the state.
Shannon
But Trent Noah let his team at
Matt Jones
the state final to the state finals.
Shannon
Yes. And ended up playing at Kentucky.
Matt Jones
So do we pick Trent because he went to state finals?
Shannon
I think it for our this exercise we've got to pick Trent.
Matt Jones
But you're good with me on Clarence Thomas Petroski, those Richie and Reed, those
Shannon
four are a given. Nobody's taking those four off your. Off your mantle.
Matt Jones
It would be. I think it would be cool for somebody that's not me because I don't know the state good enough. They should do an all. Every region, all time.
Shannon
That'd be awesome.
Matt Jones
All first. Second.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Through the 16th region, all time team. I think that would be a really cool exercise for somebody that really knows high school basketball to do. I think that would just be a neat way because that would be what, 64, 80 players that you could kind of celebrate as. As a thing and you base it
Shannon
just on their high school career. Just on high school.
Matt Jones
So like Todd Cox of Virgie's gonna be on it.
Shannon
That's a great one. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Whether or not he would have been on it.
Shannon
Correct.
Matt Jones
Otherwise. Who's next?
Co-host
Kyle.
Matt Jones
Ty. Kyle, go ahead. Todd May.
Caller
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Matt Jones
Cox is Harlan, Todd May is Harlot.
Caller
Can you hear me?
Matt Jones
Yes. Who are.
Caller
Hey. Yeah. Pleasure to meet you. So just throwing your ad hat on here. Imagine you guys are coming in in July. What are some things that you all would want to address first or if anything at all after being this new blood coming in after 24 years.
Matt Jones
I think it's a great question having a preview, I think a new ad that appreciate the call. The. The two most important things they've got to do is they've got to fix our revenue structure or fix may not be the word but like get our revenue structure in hand to where we're ready to compete on the for the next 20 years. I think we're on a process to do that but we gotta. And then I think the next thing is you gotta. You gotta win this fan base back. Yep. This fan base needs outreach from the university badly.
Shannon
How do you do it?
Matt Jones
Well, that's a Long discussion. But I think, you know, we. Eli Capilouto said he was doing a listening tour. I haven't really seen him go anywhere, but I. If I'm an ad, I'm going to all this. I'm going to all these towns in the state and asking to meet fans. I want to get to know this state for real. Like, really go out and get to know not just the. Not just the donors. Go see what fans are like in Madisonville and Paducah in Northern Kentucky, in the mountains, in, you know, in Lexington. Go. Go meet the fans and meet them, touch them, make them get to know you. Because Mitch Barnhart, they can say all they want that he talked. He didn't go out and meet the regular fan. He, like, they need to go and do that. And then so that people feel a connection to the person running their university.
Shannon
It's actually an excellent idea. Get to know why people love this university. Because you can't so much.
Matt Jones
You and I get an advantage that very few people do. I'm not gonna say we know the fan base better than anybody, but there ain't. Because we go everywhere, right? You and I talk not only to the people that are given the most money. We are in every town. I mean, you and I have been to. We've done shows in, like, 88 of the 120 counties. I've been to every county. The ad needs to do that. Cal did a lot of that in the early years.
Shannon
He did.
Matt Jones
He did a lot of that because of his book tour. He went to all those place. I just think you get a sense more when you are out amongst them of what this means to people, and I think that would be very important. And people appreciate it. They appreciate it. This fan base wants to not, like, physically touch you, but almost metaphorically touch you. And I think that's important.
Shannon
One of the best things Cals did when he took the championship trophy on that bus tour, it was great.
Matt Jones
And there were crowds everywhere. And there weren't just crowds where we stopped. There were crowds when we would pass places on the road. And it's like, you can say you get it, but until you see it and feel it, it's not the same.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
And I would like the new AD to. To do that. Will Stein and Mark Pope kind of got some of that because they played here, so they were around it. But I don't know that the administrators, I think they're too detached from it. They don't see it, and I think they should do that. We'll take a break and come right back. KSI what's up baby? It's Bretzky and I'm here to tell you that spinquest.com is giving out free sweeps coins. All you gotta do is purchase a ten dollar coin pack and guess what? They're gonna give you the coins from a thirty dollar coin pack that lets you play all your favorite games like Blackjack, Wanted, Dead or Wild. And we're talking real cash prizes baby. Spinquest.com Spinquest is a free to play
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Matt Jones
This is not the version I like, but it's the song.
Co-host
I didn't know there was multiple versions of this song.
Matt Jones
It's not the one that's on my cd, but nevertheless, this is Vern Godin. You're a slow burning memory.
Shannon
I don't know if I know this.
Matt Jones
It's a little more soulful than the one I like. I like the one that sounds like he's gonna cry right in the middle of it, but 85928 I appreciate the try. Shannon 859-280-2287 this is why. Okay, so you know there was a period about a six months ago, I went on a little crusade about a certain group of McDonald's.
Shannon
Yes.
Matt Jones
And then I got. I was asked to tone it down.
Shannon
Yes, you were.
Matt Jones
Which, fair enough. But I ride with the Harrodsburg Road
Shannon
McDonald's right up the road here.
Matt Jones
Remember I just said they only had medium cups? My man Shannon just brought me four Diet Cokes from the Harrodsburg Road.
Co-host
That lasted for a while.
Matt Jones
Yeah, well, I mean, they're gonna get. They're gonna get. I have ice in them, but this is it. This is why the hair. The Harrodsburg Road McDonald's. When I one day write my book ranking McDonald's in Kentucky, you're going to write a McDonald's? I can tell you which ones will be at the bottom and this. But Also Harrodsburg Road McDonald's near the top. Not near. It's number one.
Shannon
They are number one.
Matt Jones
I've been to all of them. Yes, there's a handful that stick out and in in Lexington, Harrodsburg Road is number one. Number two is probably out there. Leavestown Road, next to the interstate.
Shannon
Oh, and Midway. The one in Midway.
Matt Jones
No, I said least that. Sorry. Newtown Pike.
Shannon
Okay.
Matt Jones
The one Newtown pike out next to the interstate. Yeah, that one's probably.
Shannon
Well, this was great customer service. The man heard you talk about your Diet Coke and your medium cup brought you four of them. So kudos to him.
Matt Jones
What do we think about the fact that Diana Rossini made Mike Vrabel a Spotify song list when he was on a four game losing stream?
Co-host
An awful song list, too, objectively.
Matt Jones
Did you not see that?
Shannon
I did.
Matt Jones
So the Titans had lost four straight games with Vrabel, and Rossini created a song list on Spotify for him. How people found that out, I don't know. Yeah, but apparently when you create people's song lists, other people can see it. Luckily, I don't know how to do that, so I can't get caught if I were to do that. But how dumb is that? And they've. They've. Shannon, what was on the song list? It was like, all, well, sad.
Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon
Love songs.
Co-host
Cuff It. Beyonce House Party, Sam Hunt, Raise your Glass by Pink. Now there are a few good songs on here. Last Resort, Papa Roach, Can't Stop, Red Hot Chili Peppers, welcome to the Jungle, Guns N' Roses.
Matt Jones
But why do you think she did that?
Co-host
Gotta find her kiss.
Matt Jones
So does that make it even more clear that they had a relationship?
Co-host
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Shannon
What reporter is ever gonna make a head coach a playlist for anything, especially when they're losing.
Co-host
Hannah Storm made a playlist for anybody.
Matt Jones
Well, I mean, Ryan, you did make a playlist once for Craig Skinner, which I thought was sweet of you.
Shannon
Well, that's when they won the national title. You know, we are the champions and we will rock you and everything like that.
Matt Jones
They're never gonna leave these two alone.
Shannon
No.
Co-host
There's a couple songs Ryan would lock, like, on here. Photograph. Def Leppard.
Shannon
Oh, yeah.
Co-host
Renegade by Sticks.
Matt Jones
Okay, so do you think. Do you think at this point, like, what do you think. Do you think this should still be a story at this point? I mean, what. What do you think people are looking for? Like. Like she lost her job. He has already admitted, like, what else are people looking for at this point?
Shannon
That's true. They're not letting it die. They just keep, like I said, digging and digging and found this Spotify playlist.
Matt Jones
Do you think it would be better if they just came out and said, look, we had a relationship.
Shannon
It probably should have done that day one. We made a mistake.
Matt Jones
But what if they didn't? What if they were just friends that would occasionally get drunk and make out? No, I'm serious. Like, what if that. What if that's what it was? I know. I have friends that I know. If they're in the bar together, they're Gonna make out. But that. But I wouldn't say that they have
Shannon
a relationship, but they're both married to somebody else.
Matt Jones
But. But that's. It's still bad. Yeah, but it's not a relationship. Is that plausible or you're just not buying that?
Shannon
I don't think there's any way we can spin it to make it a positive situation.
Matt Jones
It's not positive, of course. Well, I like though that he got all the counseling he needed. Shannon on Saturday because he was back in the facility on Sunday.
Shannon
One day, one and done. Who'd we draft when I was gone?
Co-host
His family ranks and his priorities.
Matt Jones
Quickest marriage counseling I've ever seen in my life. One day and you're out.
Shannon
And I saw one thing. Why is she getting punished and he is not? Why does she lose her job and he gets off scot free?
Matt Jones
I mean, it's a fair question. I guess the argument is there's like a journalism ethics, whereas there is a. No, I mean, football doesn't have ethics.
Co-host
No coaching ethics.
Shannon
No coaching ethics.
Matt Jones
I mean, I guess that's the argument is you can't have a relationship with your sources and not disclose. It would be why the argument would
Shannon
be, yeah, she's definitely in the wrong.
Co-host
She should get into coaching.
Matt Jones
Yeah, if she was in coaching, I
Shannon
think she'd be fine.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Who's next?
Co-host
Cindy.
Matt Jones
Cindy. Go ahead, Cindy.
Caller
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'm sitting here having a diet Coke and I know that you all are talking about songs. And I keep thinking about all the people that call in all the male callers. Especially saying who we should have coached. Makes me think of a song. If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.
Matt Jones
Oh, interesting. Okay, I appreciate. I. I got that. That makes sense. I. You know, it is interesting. The whim. The ladies of KSR Facebook group. I've gone on there a lot of days to read what they're saying. They are much, much, much more supportive of Pope than the average male caller or listener. Like, I think Pope's approval rating with the women part of our fan base is. Is really high. Like, I know my mom, for instance. My mom really likes Mark Pope and kind of doesn't particularly like when we criticize. She doesn't say that to me explicitly, but I can just kind of tell. And I think that's kind of interesting. It feels like. Do you think there are women in our fan base pretty much universally are pro Pope?
Shannon
I think so. I think it's because he's Such a good person.
Matt Jones
Is that what you think it is? It's like it's. He's such a good guy that you
Shannon
can overlook his deficiencies. Maybe as a coach or recruiter.
Matt Jones
That won't last forever. But that. But that. I do think that's true now.
Co-host
I absolutely think that's being likable will buy you time. It will buy you a lot of things in life.
Matt Jones
I totally agree with you. It will buy you time. Whereas, like some of our other coaches have kind of maybe guys have liked more than. And they. And then they kind of rub the window.
Co-host
Like, if Gillespie weren't a jerk, he probably would have been here another year.
Matt Jones
Yeah. But Gillespie didn't get that benefit of the doubt from the women that Pope would.
Shannon
No.
Matt Jones
Would you agree?
Shannon
I totally agree.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We'll take a break. Right back.
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Matt Jones
No song with more emotion than this. Shane.
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, what a way to end the. The show. The last ever. Last time we ever saw Kurt Cobain live.
Matt Jones
Yep.
Shannon
Wow.
Matt Jones
Turn it up. And the la. That's the last public performance.
Co-host
Yeah. You can feel that, though.
Matt Jones
I mean, you like it. That still gives me chills. I'm sure people younger than us don't feel the same way about that, but like my era, that was the most important band. It wasn't necessarily my favorite, but it was without question the most important of that air and like that song being the last time, like, you saw him on television.
Shannon
It's just crazy knowing what we know.
Matt Jones
Knowing what you know. Then later.
Shannon
So haunting.
Matt Jones
I know.
Shannon
It's. It really incredibly powerful because it's so haunting.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
The women are riding on the text machine for Mark Pope. There are. Are you disagree? Oh, you are. Okay. There are a ton. 772-774-5254 are mostly women saying, yes, we are much more pro pope than the men. There's a couple people disagreeing. Couple women disagreeing. But. But I do think again, that's something most people believe that whatever their opinion is is representative of the fan base, whatever that opinion is. And I think you really do have to sit there. What I say to some people is, okay, now just take a step back. What percentage of UK fans are on Twitter? Probably not more than 15 or 20.
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
What percentage of UK fans are women? Probably 40, 45.
Shannon
Half. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yes. What percentage are old? What percentage are young? And so whoever you are, you can't represent all of those people. I mean, think about like when you, when a post goes up, Mario will put a post up on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and TikTok. Without question, Facebook gets the most comments and the strongest amount of attention. But I don't know one person that uses Facebook as their primary means of social media. But there are a ton of people that. That's their only social media.
Shannon
Oh yes.
Matt Jones
It's not me and who I hang out with, but those people exist.
Shannon
They absolutely exist.
Matt Jones
And there might be more of them than there are everybody else. But then you have people Mario's age who the only social media they use is Tick tock and Instagram. No woman goes. Very few women go on Twitter. Very few women are on Twitter in the grand scheme of things, but. And very few men are on Instagram, you know, so it is, it is kind of interesting how like what you think our fan base thinks to some extent is what medium you digest the information.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You know, if you only went on KS board, that's a hardcore set of male, somewhat older fans and you would think this fan base is very negative if you only went on that. But then if you went on Tik Tok, it's a lot more positive usually. So it just, it just depends. Everything is different.
Shannon
Just for me looking outside, looking in, it seems like men more to put vitriol on the social media account than women.
Matt Jones
Oh, no doubt about that. No doubt about that. I will say for me, this is just me and I'm not saying this is 100 correct. I think the most accurate representation of the fans to me is the. Our text machine. Because I think it gets everybody, I think that, I think it gets every kind of person. It's anonymous, but because people have their phone numbers attached, they tend not to be as mean because I have their phone number and I think you get the best, well rounded view. And this, for the most part, it's all over the place. So that's why I find it so interesting the older I get. It's what I use more and more to decide what I'm gonna listen to.
Shannon
Well, I felt like this show really reaches a cross section of our fan base. Old, young, black, white.
Matt Jones
There is no medium that reaches more different types of people. You know, when we had that cup that, that we were at that show a couple weeks ago and it was a great grandfather, grandfather, mother and son, four generations sitting there listening.
Shannon
Yep.
Matt Jones
Where else is that happening outside of the games?
Shannon
Right.
Matt Jones
You know, the answer is is is nowhere to see what Kyle Tucker said to Seth Greenberg, I did see that. That was great.
Shannon
That was.
Matt Jones
Seth Greenberg was like, of course we should expand the tournament. Of course we should have 76 teams. Why are people being such Blah, blah, blah. And Kyle Tucker was like, yeah, if I was on the bubble every year, I'd have said that, too.
Shannon
Yeah. He said, I think if I hadn't made the tournament. I think he went and he said that, didn't he? If I had made the tournament, I would say that also because.
Matt Jones
Because that really would. They should call the bubble, Shannon, the Seth Greenberg bubble. Yeah, because he was on it every single year.
Co-host
And now you're going to get 17 and 15 Auburn teams in there. They're going to throw in.
Matt Jones
I hate that they expanded it. I mean, we'll get used to it. It'll probably be fine, but I hate it. I don't think. I think you're just going to end up with a bunch of mediocre teams in there. You know, I mean, there might be years like, like think about 2013 with Neurolence. If it was 76, we'd been in.
Shannon
We'd have been in. Right?
Matt Jones
We'd have been in. So, you know, did that team deserve to be in? Probably not, but that's the way it's going to be now. So I don't think it makes the regular season meaningless, but I do think it will make games like Kentucky had a couple games that they had to win at the end of the year last year. I don't think that's. I don't think that'll be true because,
Shannon
you know, they're going to be in.
Matt Jones
They. I mean, last year in the sec, probably everybody would have been in except like South Carolina and, you know, they probably would have 14 teams in. In this system.
Shannon
This first year is going to be big for them. They've got to get some good matchups and they've got to get some good locations and it's got to work this
Matt Jones
first year and it's unfortunate. Like, they're not going to be able to play all those games in Dayton. No, they're going to have to play them in a couple different spots and that'll lose some of the magic.
Shannon
I agree, too.
Matt Jones
So I think it's a bad decision, but it is what it is. What's next? Go ahead, Sam.
Caller
Hey, Matt, A couple points. Didn't like seeing Trevino on the mound last night. Hopefully we can tell Tito to keep him behind the plate. Secondly, the good news, Zach Maxwell coming up from aaa, so big sugar time In Cincy. Let's go. Go Cats.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We. One of our pitchers got hurt, but he was our worst pitcher. So Brandon Williamson. So they're bringing somebody up. Lodolo should be back very soon. We'll see if the blister holds up. They got rock last night, but that's okay. Do you like when they. When they put a position player to pitch at the end of the game that we did that we had just the catcher out there throwing.
Shannon
I love it. I love it. My last college game, I got to pitch the last inning. That's probably one of the highlights of my college career.
Matt Jones
How did you do?
Shannon
Deep, deep, deep, deep fly ball to left. Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep fly ball to center. And then like another deep fly ball to center.
Matt Jones
But you got everybody out.
Shannon
Got him out. College era. 000. But boy, they hit some bombs. I was like, it was a good ballpark. It could have been three home runs in another ballpark.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Kind of like you where I got you out.
Shannon
That was a fair home run. That was fair.
Matt Jones
Ten years later, he's still mad about it.
Shannon
Even Cal said it was fair.
Matt Jones
Well, but I mean, this Cal. Tell the truth. Yes, he does.
Shannon
He would never tell a lie.
Matt Jones
By the way. Can I say something real quick? When it comes to Cal, we still have these cow defenders in the UK fan base. Not a lot, but we still have some that are like, look, what cows. I just want. Everybody has a right to be frustrated with Pope. I get it. But I still want you to say, go look at the comparison of the two years of Cal at Arkansas and the two years. But it ain't that much.
Shannon
No, it's not.
Matt Jones
All right.
Shannon
Almost identical.
Matt Jones
It's almost identical. They went one round farther than us this year and that's it. He won the SEC tournament. That is better. But they were on the bubble last year. They almost didn't get in, if you remember. Or two years ago. So, you know, Cal wins the recruiting battles, but he's always done that. The question is the games. And I will note there, for all our frustration, if John Calipari had the record Mark Pope had had the last two years, we'd be furious.
Shannon
Oh, yes.
Matt Jones
He would have already been run out of here. And he's essentially had that record at
Shannon
Arkansas before the SEC tournament. The records of Cal and Pope were the exact same.
Matt Jones
Exact same, exact same. Who's next?
Co-host
Stu.
Matt Jones
Stu. Go ahead. St.
Caller
Hey. Yes, dude. Matt. I want to talk a little bit about David Allen Coe. I was a big fan of his kind of growing Up. But when he stuck this racist stuff, I kind of backed away.
Matt Jones
He got in. I was like that too. He had that year. It was like a two or three year period where he just like decided to do that. And I don't know why he did that.
Caller
Yeah, there are a couple things. A couple songs. He wrote Kenya Tucker's field of stone.
Matt Jones
Oh, did he? I didn't know that.
Caller
You remember that one.
Matt Jones
I do, yeah.
Caller
And also, also his big song obviously was I'm going black right now. Call me Darwin. You don't have to call me.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we played that.
Caller
Goodman wrote that.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Steve.
Caller
Steve Goodman.
Matt Jones
He mentions him in the song. He says something like, as my good friend Steve.
Caller
Yeah. At the end of the song.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Caller
Which he. Which all. He also wrote city of your own.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Caller
Steve Goodman.
Matt Jones
I didn't know that. Well, I appreciate the Arlo Dusty song. I had no idea. Appreciate it. Field of stone. We'll play. That's team. I mean, I'm sorry. That era, like I said, he. He had this period where he started. Went off the rails and started writing racist songs. So I can't. I can't say I like him. But he did produce music at his time when I. That, you know, is the kind that I like.
Shannon
During the heyday of country music during the 90s era, he was one of the bigger stars.
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Matt Jones
welcome Back Techie Sports Radio. Here's a little Tanya right now. Latest mock draft. Jaden quiteence going 15th.
Shannon
He went. Slid. Now he's slid back up, it looks like.
Matt Jones
Yes. They've got the guy from Iowa State who of course we would like to see end up here. They've got him 30th.
Shannon
The Mama Vich guy. That guy, yeah.
Matt Jones
So it's mom Silovich. So you'd have to convince him to give up first, which, but honestly, he would make more money than he would here than he would as the 30th pick in the draft.
Shannon
Be a late first round.
Matt Jones
Any of the schools that want him. And then that Alan Graves kid, we played against him at Santa Clara, they have him 26th, same thing. I mean, I don't know what he wants to do, but he would make more money.
Shannon
Especially since we have a lot of money sitting there, just sitting there to give somebody.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Debons a 1, Peterson 2. Caleb Wilson 3. Cam Boozer and then Darius aka 4. That's. Or 5. Excuse me. That's. That's probably the top five. But I mean if you're getting. That's what's crazy about this draft. I mean, Cam Boozer is awesome. You might get him four. Fourth, Darius Acuff fifth. Darius Acuff is, is, is like John Wall and you could get him fifth. I mean that's, that's an, that is a. The top five of that draft. Yeah, that's a stacked a top five. As you'll ever see.
Shannon
Those guys are a number one pick a lot of years.
Matt Jones
And then you got six. Mikhail Brown. Okay. We saw how good he could be when he was playing.
Shannon
Another freshman, Keaton Wagler.
Matt Jones
That's seven. Another freshman from Illinois, Kingston Flemings from Houston. Another freshman, Nate A. Mint Tennessee.
Shannon
Another freshman.
Matt Jones
Braden Berries from Arizona.
Shannon
Another freshman. Holy cow.
Matt Jones
Alabama's Phylon is 11th. That'd be the first upper class.
Shannon
The first upperclassman doesn't pick till 11th. So that's amazing.
Matt Jones
That's, I mean that's, that's why it is one of the historic classes. And this fans are like we had one of those historic class in the history of college basketball. We didn't get one of them.
Shannon
Yeah.
Matt Jones
You know, I do understand.
Shannon
We had some of those guys on campus.
Matt Jones
We had a lot of them on campus. Over the top. Who's up next? Shannon?
Co-host
Matthew.
Matt Jones
Matthew. Go ahead, Matthew.
Caller
Hey, guys, how you doing?
Matt Jones
Good.
Caller
Vern Gosden is dead. He died of lung cancer back in the 90s.
Matt Jones
Early 90s. All right.
Caller
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And I'd have a question.
Caller
How good do you think our football team is going to be this year?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think this football team's going to be fun. I think they're going to be competitive. I think the schedule is absurd. I mean, I.
Shannon
Over. Under, I think is four and a half.
Matt Jones
Yeah. And I think that's about right because I think we'll probably win either four or five games. That's. That. That's kind of where I am on it.
Shannon
Try to, you know, steal one of those powerhouses. You're still one of those.
Matt Jones
Let me just read this schedule again. We open up with Youngstown State.
Shannon
That's a win.
Matt Jones
Then September 12, Bama at home. Then the next week, you know what, you just played Bam at home. You know, your reward go to A and M, then South, Alabama at home, then at South Carolina, then LSU at home than at Oklahoma, Vandy at home, at Tennessee, Florida at home, at Missouri, Louisville at home.
Shannon
My goodness.
Matt Jones
But I mean, think about our first four SEC games are Alabama, A&M, South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma. Those are the first five. I mean, that's crazy. LSU, Oklahoma, Alabama and A and M are teams we never play and we play all of them this year.
Shannon
So the home games, you got Alabama, you got Lane Kiffin and lsu.
Matt Jones
Here's who's coming into historic Kroger Field. Alabama, lsu, Vandy, and Florida and Louisville.
Shannon
So you got John Sumrall in Florida. You got lane Kiffin and LSU.
Matt Jones
Yeah, whatever his face is. DeBoer at Alabama.
Shannon
Alabama and then Vandy. Vandy without. Without.
Matt Jones
Without payout. Without Pavia.
Shannon
Pavia.
Matt Jones
But I mean, I will say though, I'm amped about that game against Alabama. Like I. They can't make me not be. Be here for that. That day is going to be. As long as we don't lose to Youngstown State the week before, which I don't think we will. That day is going to be an awesome day to be in Lexington. Bama in town. Wilstein. This moment of like, that'll be great. I can't wait. Who's next.
Co-host
Let's go to Jared.
Matt Jones
Jared, go ahead, Jared.
Caller
Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call. So first and foremost, I do actually think Kentucky is going to beat A and M in football. I have lived in College Station for many years and A and M is always destined to be great and it just never is. So that's the first.
Matt Jones
I hope you're right.
Caller
I want to end with some positivity on Mark Pope and where the roster is now. I think the backcourt isn't as good as we were, but I think they're good enough. I think they're going to get it done. I think the front court is actually going to be better than what we saw this year. Not because they're necessarily more talented, but because they fit into Pope's system better. And I think Brad Hawthorne is actually going to surprise a lot of people and by the 10th game of the season he's going to be a starter and he is a future NBA draft pick. Thanks for taking my call.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I appreciate it. Here's my take on let's say we add nobody to the roster. All right, let's say, I mean, we'll add a couple guys, but let's say we had no one of substance. Let's say that the say you add this kid from Israel and really that's it in terms of big time play. Maybe you had one or two dudes at the end. I actually think the roster as it sits can be better than the team we just had. But I don't think we'll ever during the season think the team is a contender. So that's what I think will be tough for this fan base. I don't think we're going to be awful. I think people look at it and go, we're going to actually think you can match the two rosters up and say we can be better. But the thing about last year's team was really, until Jalen Lowe got hurt the last time, we kept thinking, they can still do it. Yes, this can still be a contender. I don't know that we're going to think that next year's team can be a contender.
Shannon
I think from the beginning of the season, I think you're exactly right. We all know this is not a
Matt Jones
I think they can be as good or better.
Shannon
Absolutely.
Matt Jones
I really do. Because I think if you look player by player, it's not bad, right? But I don't think there'll ever be a moment that we watch Duke in Florida and go, we can get them right?
Shannon
And last year we did.
Matt Jones
And last year when we had that moment in the St. John's game when Quaintance and Low were playing, we're like, you know what?
Shannon
We got it.
Matt Jones
Get everybody.
Shannon
We're at. We're back.
Matt Jones
And. And then that's.
Shannon
That's not going to happen this year with the. I don't think with the current rosters,
Matt Jones
we have it because we're just missing.
Shannon
We don't have a dude.
Matt Jones
We don't have a dude. We have a lot of kind of dudes, but we don't have a dude. And I think if you're. If you're going to summarize what Pope has missed since he's been here, the reality is he's never had a dude. We're three years in, and we've never had a dude. We didn't really have. We. We wanted Jackson Robinson to be a dude. He was good, but he wasn't a dude. We wanted Jalen Lowe and maybe a senior away to be a dude, and they were good, but maybe not a dude. And I don't think we're gonna have a dude this year.
Shannon
Not yet.
Matt Jones
So.
Shannon
Not yet. Maybe. Maybe coming.
Matt Jones
Maybe coming. That would be good. All right, we'll see y' all tomorrow. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio. What's up, baby? It's Bretzky, and I'm here to tell you that spinquest.com is giving out free sweeps coins. All you gotta do is purchase a $10 coin pack and guess what? They're gonna give you the coins from a $30 coin pack that lets you play all your favorite games like Blackjack, wanted, dead or wild. And we're talking real cash prizes, baby. Spin Quest.com Spin Quest is a free
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Date: April 30, 2026
Host: Matt Jones with Shannon and co-hosts
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Hour two of KSR touches on a wide array of Kentucky sports topics, ranging from coaching moves and fan base engagement, to nostalgia in music and McDonald’s rankings. The show zigzags between light, humorous segments and debates on the past, present, and future of UK basketball and football.
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This KSR hour is a lively, wide-ranging conversation blending Kentucky sports insight, nostalgia, humor, and a critical, self-aware perspective on the state of the fan base. Matt Jones and the crew deliver a mix of stats, stories, and tongue-in-cheek commentary, offering UK fans both entertainment and food for thought about where the teams—and their relationships—are headed.