2026-05-06- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

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Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR) – Hour 2

Date: May 6, 2026
Host: Matt Jones
Co-Hosts: Ryan Lemond, Drew Franklin, Shannon Dawson
Location: KS Bar and Grill

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of KSR, the crew delivers a characteristic blend of Kentucky sports discussion and off-the-cuff banter. The hour sees Matt Jones leading conversations on hot UK basketball topics, the quirks of fast food soda fountains, memorable sports figures, and a walk down memory lane with special guest Rob Bromley. Humor, nostalgia, and some classic KSR caller moments highlight the episode, alongside reflections on adversity and Kentucky fandom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mark Pope and Kentucky Basketball Recruiting

• Context: Ongoing frustration among fans due to missed commitment targets for UK basketball under Coach Mark Pope.
• Primary Issue: The crew debates the exact reason recruits aren't committing, narrowing it down to either an inability by Pope/his staff to connect in today's NIL-driven era, or poor outcomes during in-person campus visits.
  • Drew Franklin: “He is just not gelling with these kids and their families when they get them to UK…something is happening when they get to these face to faces and it’s not working.” (46:43)
  • Matt Jones: Suggests the staff may not be connected to the modern NIL world of recruiting, noting comments by other coaches like Rick Barnes who say recruiting is actually simpler now due to NIL. (48:06)
  • Ryan Lemond: Agrees it likely comes down to visits: “Not connecting somehow with these players when they come on campus for their visit.” (46:59)
• Solutions Discussed: Adding dynamic assistant coaches (like Mo Williams, potentially Jamal Crawford) could help with connections.

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2. Adversity and Fandom: Turning it Around

• Conversation: Reflections on the struggle to achieve success, using both Pope at UK and Matt’s own career as examples of appreciating triumph after hardship.
  • “Having adversity before you hit your success is even more awesome than if you hit it initially.” – Matt Jones (01:44)
• Kentucky Fans’ Hopes: Despite recent negativity, everyone, even the critics, ultimately wants Pope to succeed. (15:41)

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3. The “50-Mile Walk” Debate: Could Modern Presidents Do It?

• Trigger: News about resurrecting JFK’s 50-mile walk challenge, with cameo by Trump claiming he could complete it.
• Shannon (who actually did the 50-mile walk): “Absolutely not…you could give him 40 hours, he couldn’t do it.” (04:39)
• Fun Roll Call: Going through recent US presidents debating who could actually pull off walking 50 miles in 20 hours. Obama, W. Bush argued as likely candidates; Trump and Biden, not so much.
  • “Maybe at one time…but not when he was president.” – Matt Jones on Biden (05:29)
• Panel’s Self-Reflection: Most don’t believe they could do it either, but with a crowd cheering, some think they’d find the energy.
• Notable Quote: “Not a chance in France, could I do it.” – Ryan Lemond (08:09)

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4. McDonald's Ditching Self-Serve Soda Fountains

• Topic: The fast food chain will require customers to go to the front for refills, sparking nostalgia and some minor outrage.
• Ryan: Champions the “freedom” and variety of self-serve machines: “Where else can you get a cherry Sprite, or a lemon-lime Sprite?” (10:22)
• Matt: Points to reduced waste and cost-cutting as likely motivations.

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5. Triple Crown Frustrations and Horse Racing Policy

• Discussion: Rant about Derby and Preakness dynamics; Matt argues Derby horses should be required (barring injury) to run the Preakness for the sport’s sake.
  • “Unless they have to be in the hospital, they should force these horses to go to the Preakness.” – Matt Jones (11:29)
• Hypothetical: Joking about trucking the horses automatically to the next race to increase drama and fan engagement—“mandatory put it” policy. (12:13)

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6. News, Nostalgia, and Obits

• Ted Turner’s Passing: Matt pays tribute to Turner’s media empire, eclectic legacy (from CNN and TBS to briefly managing the Atlanta Braves and being married to Jane Fonda).
  • “He managed the team himself. Like Eli Capilouto firing Mark Pope and then he’s coaching the next game—that’s a crazy thing for somebody to do.” (23:33)
• Reflections on Graduation and Memorabilia: Drew admits he’s unsure if he ever picked up his UK diploma, leading to a discussion on the value (or lack) of sentimental tokens like diplomas and team gear. (21:13)

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7. Call-In Banter & Rapid Fire Topics

• Neighborhood Analogy Game: Using a Knicks game celebrity photo, Matt and crew debate which Lexington neighborhoods best fit the looks/styles of Tina Fey (Chevy Chase), Timothée Chalamet (Bryan Station), and Kylie Jenner (downtown condo/Hamburg). (30:27)
• Collecting Non-favorite Team Gear: Matt discusses his habit of buying hats/hoodies at venues as “souvenirs,” not as indications of fandom. (34:37)
• “Ask Anything Wednesday” Gems:
  • Death Penalty (Caller Bob & Matt debate) (26:10)
  • Why wear hats for teams you don’t like? (33:15)

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8. Major UK Women’s Basketball Recruiting News

• Breaking News: UK Women’s Basketball lands Aja Sivka, a 6’4” guard and 10th pick in last year’s WNBA draft.
  • “We’re gonna have a point guard that’s the same height as our center.” – Matt Jones (44:13)
  • Highlights revamped roster, multiple McDonald’s All-Americans, and a Shaquille O’Neal daughter joining—suggesting a powerhouse team for the coming year.

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9. Special Guest: Rob Bromley Drops In

• Surprising and Welcome Nostalgia: Kentucky sports broadcasting legend Rob Bromley makes a cameo, gives a signature game intro for fans. (50:30)
  • “Good evening, everybody. It’s Kentucky and Tennessee tonight in Rupp Arena.” – Rob Bromley (50:43)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (by Timestamp)

• On Adversity and Success:
  “Having adversity before you hit your success is even more awesome than if you hit it initially.” – Matt Jones (01:44)

• On 50-Mile Walk Challenge:
  “Absolutely not…you could give him 40 hours, he couldn’t do it.” – Shannon Dawson on Trump (04:39)
  “Not a chance in France, could I do it.” – Ryan Lemond (08:09)

• On Collecting Gear:
  “When I watch a TV show…I have to watch every episode. I would never watch Law and Order because I can’t go back and watch all 27 seasons of it.” – Matt Jones (33:26)

• On Horse Racing Drama:
  “Unless they have to be in the hospital, they should force these horses to go to the Preakness.” – Matt Jones (11:29)

• On Ted Turner Managing Braves:
  “It would be like Eli Capilouto firing Mark Pope and then he’s coaching the next game.” – Matt Jones (23:35)

• UK Women’s Basketball News:
  “She was the 10th pick in the WNBA Draft last year, decided to go back to Slovenia…and now she will come play college basketball at UK.” – Matt Jones (43:32)

• Recruiting Woes:
  “Whatever is happening in official visits seems to be going wrong because we’ve had guys that we thought, well, they’re gonna commit before they leave, and then they leave without a commitment.” – Drew Franklin (46:48)

• Rob Bromley Classic Delivery:
  “Good evening, everybody. It’s Kentucky and Tennessee tonight in Rupp Arena.” – Rob Bromley (50:43)

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Notable Timestamps for Segments

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-----------|---------------------| | 01:08 | Open—wings day, show preview, Pope discussion begins | | 03:06 | JFK 50-mile challenge & president’s fitness debate | | 09:04 | McDonald’s self-serve soda fountains: gone | | 11:29 | Derby horses and Triple Crown policy rant | | 12:54 | Imaginary horse “trash talk” for Preakness drama | | 15:41 | Even Pope’s critics want him to win | | 21:13 | Drew doesn’t care about his diploma—sentimentality chat | | 22:10 | Ted Turner tribute and Braves stories | | 30:27 | Knicks celebrity photo—Lexington neighborhood comparison | | 33:15 | Why collect gear for teams you don’t support? | | 43:00 | Breaking: UK women’s basketball lands top WNBA pick | | 46:08 | Deep dive: Pope’s recruiting issues, NIL, visits | | 50:30 | Rob Bromley surprise appearance, classic sign-off |

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Tone & Style

• Language: Friendly, teasing, often humorous, with moments of reflective sincerity.
• Atmosphere: Lively, full of inside jokes, good-natured ribbing, and interactive with their loyal listener base.
• Originality: Authentic, informal, always returning to Kentucky sports and local color, yet unafraid of tangents.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode encapsulates classic KSR: funny, irreverent, and still committed to Kentucky sports issues. You’ll find hot takes, nostalgia, and deep dives—especially into struggles and hopes for both UK hoops and the local sports world at large. Don’t miss Rob Bromley’s charming closing cameo, new hope for UK Women’s basketball, and a reminder that sometimes, loving the Cats means rolling with the adversity until the breakthrough comes.

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Transcript

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Shannon Dawson]

welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. We are open now at the KS Bar and Grill. It is wings day dollar wings all day. You would like to come and join us on the text machine. One person writes, matt, shame on Drew. He's married, just had a baby and now he's out gallivanting at all the bars welcoming the advances of male callers.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't welcome the advances. He was terrible at advancing, but I was out alone just trying to dance and have a good time.

[Ryan Lemond]

You already had a full drink, so you didn't need another drink.

[Drew Franklin]

I had a full espresso martini. I didn't need anything else.

[Matt Jones]

This woman right here, she was saying that she would have asked Pope the question, do you regret coming here? That would be an interesting question. I'm sure he would say no. I mean that would be a bad answer if he went, yes, I do. And I'm still. But I do wonder, you know, at night I'm gonna assume he doesn't like you want to try your dream. And there's still. Listen, here's what I would say. If he's able to turn this around and like launch having adversity with before you hit your success is even more awesome than if you hit it initially. You know, when I started ksr, the first few years were six. You know, we had a Lot of readers, but financially rocky. That was like the least. The poorest I've ever been was during that period of time. But it almost. When you then have success, you're like, it feels better because you went through adversity to have it. Maybe that'll be what happens with him.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

You appreciate it more.

[Matt Jones]

You do appreciate it more. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

For like, Tubby, you know, first year he wins the title, it kind of never got back to that point. I've always felt sorry. I wish he'd gotten back to the final Four one more time.

[Matt Jones]

I agree. I wish he had as well. All right, let's talk about a couple things. They're a little bit different. Shannon, I thought of you on this.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Did you see yesterday, you know, we. In 2020, when we had no sports and we were looking for topics, I brought up the JFK 50 mile walk.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, yeah, I did.

[Matt Jones]

See, for those of you that don't. For those of you that weren't listening or don't remember, JFK challenged the American public. He said, we require all of our military officers to be able to walk 50 miles in 20 hours. And he said, I challenged the American population to be able to do that as well. Which led to us having a conversation. It led Shannon to say, I can do that. Which led to an entire charity thing where he walked 50 miles around Lexington and he was able to do it. Shannon, you did it in under 20 hours.

[Shannon Dawson]

It was like 15 hours and change.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he did it quicker than that. So yesterday they decided. The government has decided to bring it back. And they had a weird assortment of people there. They had Robert Kennedy, which makes sense because he's John Kennedy's brother, but they also had children. Todd golden was there for reasons I'm not exactly sure, but they had all these people, and in it, Robert Kennedy is talking about it, and then Trump looks up and goes, you think I could do it? Right. And at that point, Robert Kennedy, I mean, I, I think you got to look at him and go, no,

[Drew Franklin]

absolutely not.

[Matt Jones]

But he did say, well, you walk nine miles every day on a golf course, so I'm sure you can.

[Shannon Dawson]

Big difference between 50 and.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, he doesn't walk miles. He drives cart on the green.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He doesn't walk nine miles. But nevertheless, Shannon, I was going to ask you, as someone who's done the 50 mile walk. Right, do you believe that Donald Trump could walk 50 miles in 20 hours?

[Shannon Dawson]

Absolutely not. You could give him 40 hours. He couldn't do it. There's no way he's walking. And he wouldn't do it anyway.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, but.

[Matt Jones]

But he wouldn't.

[Shannon Dawson]

But he could.

[Matt Jones]

I'll say this. If he were to do it, you want to find a way that I'll stop criticizing him? I'd like to. If he. If he would go do it and did it, then I actually legitimate. Because I was impressed with Shannon. I saw how hard it was.

[Shannon Dawson]

It was tough.

[Matt Jones]

It was tough. But there's no way that he could do.

[Shannon Dawson]

I'm in a little bit better shape physically, I think, than Trump.

[Matt Jones]

I think so, yeah. So that led me to a question of who could do it. Who of our presidents could have walked 50 miles while they were president in 20 hours?

[Shannon Dawson]

Good question.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go through it. Trump? No. Biden.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. No, no. He would have jogged it backwards, I'm gonna say.

[Matt Jones]

But no, I think maybe at one time in his. Him, but not when he was president.

[Drew Franklin]

Fifteen, maybe.

[Matt Jones]

Obama.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I think he probably could because he

[Ryan Lemond]

played basketball pretty regularly. Kind of in shape.

[Matt Jones]

Probably W. I think W could do it. I think W could do it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

W was. He was an athlete now. I mean, I don't know if either of those guys had the stamina when they were in office, but I'm gonna say yes.

[Drew Franklin]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

Now, Clinton, he.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, he would go out for a job.

[Matt Jones]

He would go out for jogs. But there's a difference between a jog and 50 miles.

[Shannon Dawson]

True, but, I mean, at least he put in some sort of physical eff.

[Matt Jones]

But he was kind of chubby, though, when he was president. He got skinny after he was out of office.

[Shannon Dawson]

I think he could do it.

[Matt Jones]

You think he could do it? I must say no. Do you think he could do it?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm with Shannon. You know, he's kind of famous for taking those early morning jogs, like, every

[Matt Jones]

morning jog, 50 miles.

[Ryan Lemond]

But I think just being that that cardiovascular workout might help him walk 50 miles.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yes. On Bill.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Caller]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm the only.

[Drew Franklin]

I think a lot of it. Like, in Shannon's case, if the pressure's on and the lights are on, you, you're gonna be able to pull it off.

[Matt Jones]

Bush Senior.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, no.

[Matt Jones]

There was certainly a time in his life he could have. He was. He was a military guy when he was president, but probably not when he was president because he was old at that point.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going down.

[Matt Jones]

And then finally Reagan.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, no.

[Matt Jones]

Again, I think there was probably a time in his life he could have, but I don't. I think there was Probably a time in. In all of these guys lives that they could have done it, except maybe Trump. But even Trump was an athlete when he was in high school, but as an adult, he was always kind of.

[Drew Franklin]

If we're draftkings, we're setting a line on how many miles he would get in, which are over, under. I'll set the line at four and a half miles.

[Matt Jones]

How many miles could. Could Trump get in in present day? Oh, yeah. I mean, he does play golf, so I'm gonna say six, seven.

[Shannon Dawson]

Six, six, seven and what, 20 hours?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He's gonna get tired, man. So I feel the same way about Biden.

[Drew Franklin]

I put Biden at 50 meters, you know, Trump at four and a half months.

[Shannon Dawson]

Who could do it? Like a day when they had to walk like Abraham Lincoln.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, yeah, those old guys. Yeah, they. Because they didn't have cars, so they had to walk. Yeah. Like, what about Andy Beshear? Could he do it?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he's still young enough.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think I've ever seen him do physical activity, though. Have you?

[Drew Franklin]

Just a walk.

[Matt Jones]

You say it's just a walk. You saw Shannon, Me and you walked 12 miles and we were dead.

[Drew Franklin]

Fine. I could have kept going.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on. You think you could do it?

[Drew Franklin]

There's two different ways to. If. If I just leave now, start doing, I'm going to get bored. But if, like, in Shannon's case, where people are watching me, I think a lot of people could.

[Matt Jones]

Like, you could do it?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Do you think you could do it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Not a chance. In France, could I do it?

[Shannon Dawson]

But, Drew, your back always hurts.

[Matt Jones]

Like, your back does hurt your back.

[Drew Franklin]

If you're in a. If you're in, like a. People are locked on watching you.

[Matt Jones]

You dig deep.

[Drew Franklin]

If I just started walking right now, I get to sonic and be like, I'm bored. I'm going home, getting on the couch. But, like, if it's a challenge, I think you find another gear.

[Matt Jones]

Be honest, Drew. Drew thinks of himself as Mr. Olympic here. I've miles in a day.

[Ryan Lemond]

You walk a lot?

[Matt Jones]

I walk a lot. I don't know if I could do 50. Yeah, I mean, I. I think I could do 30, but I don't think I could do 50.

[Ryan Lemond]

How are you after 12?

[Shannon Dawson]

We got our new thing we're going to do. Matt walks 30 miles.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. No, I'm not. No, but I. I mean, I walked. I walked 17 or whatever just a few months ago.

[Ryan Lemond]

And you felt. How'd you feel afterwards?

[Matt Jones]

Exhausted.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, you're Back and I could have

[Matt Jones]

gone a little farther, but I don't think I could have gone if, If I had taken a break. And then I think I could have gone. But I. I don. Go 50.

[Drew Franklin]

But with people watching you and cheering you on, you don't think you could find another gear? I agree that if you're by yourself,

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if I could find 20 more miles of gear. I mean, maybe I. But Anyway. All right. McDonald's announced that restaurants will no longer have self serve fountain Coke that, like, from now on, if you want to refill, you have to take it up to the front.

[Ryan Lemond]

Good.

[Matt Jones]

Bad.

[Drew Franklin]

I can't remember the last time I've been inside a fast food restaurant, so it doesn't impact me, but I assume they would find some money they've been losing on people getting waters and refilling over and over.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and it's also probably like when you're leaving a restaurant. Like, I know, like when I go to Chipotle, whether I need more soda or not on the way out, I top it off and probably end up wasting a lot. So I would guess it's a way to try to keep you from just getting soda you don't need. Would you agree with that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I. I totally agree with that. But it is kind of more of an inconvenience because, like, if you go to Chick Fil A, you have to go to the counter. You got to wait on somebody to help you just. Whereas if it's self serve, you just go up, boom, hit it, go out. I love the self serve. Like the, the machine has got like 15 different varieties. I got Wendy's.

[Matt Jones]

Are you like, are you mixing?

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, you.

[Matt Jones]

You're one of those children that puts all of the sodas together.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, where else can you get a cherry Sprite or a lemon lime Sprite or an orange Sprite Sprite is

[Shannon Dawson]

a lemon lime, buddy.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I'm just giving you an example.

[Matt Jones]

So what I will get you lemon

[Drew Franklin]

lime sprite right now, 10ft away.

[Matt Jones]

What sodas do you mix?

[Ryan Lemond]

Cherry Diet Coke is like heaven.

[Matt Jones]

I understand, but you don't have to mix it. They have that flavor that's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, that's. You can't get it everywhere. Where else are you going to get.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, wait a minute. We're saying two different things. You like the machines that have all the different flavors.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I was talking about you don't take like a Coke and a Sprite. Mix it together. No, I thought he was saying that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that's what we did in Little

[Matt Jones]

League, and that's what kids do. Okay, so you don't do that.

[Ryan Lemond]

No, I just like the combination. You can get, like I said, a cherry Sprite.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right. Well, that's. All right. That's not as, as bad as as what I thought. They're announcing today whether Golden Tempo is going to go to the Pre. I'm going to continue my view I had last year when the what whatever horse won. Was it Sovereignty didn't go to the Preakness.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

They should force these horses, unless they have to be in the hospital, they should force these horses to go to the Preakness. I, I, it's, it's. First of all, they need to move the Preakness so that all these horses go. I mean, this would be awesome if they would all go. Like the race we just had, if they all went to the Preakness, everybody would be into it. People know Renegade, they know Golden Tempo, they know the Ortiz brothers. Like, it would be awesome. Golden Renegade is definitely not going. Golden Tempo's deciding. Do you agree with me that absent Malaria, the horse should go?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think as soon as the Derby ends, load them all into truck and tell the owners we'll see at the Preakness. We'll have them there waiting for you.

[Matt Jones]

They should kidnap mandatory put it.

[Drew Franklin]

We're loading all of you up right now and we're watching you for the next three weeks.

[Matt Jones]

They should load all the horses.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. They can be in different trucks so there's no animosity. You know, you don't want fights on the way to the Preakness, but actually take their animals to the Preakness for them and say they'll be there waiting for you.

[Matt Jones]

They, they just need to Ryan, for the sport. They need to. I don't care what they do. I don't know enough about horses to know when they should have the races, but for the sport, they need to have all these horses go to the next one. They just had the best Derby, highest rated, most drama, historical win. And like, if none of those horses show up at the Preakness, that's going to be a disaster, isn't it?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

You said coming off the one of the highest rated derbies we've had in

[Matt Jones]

forever, the highest rated Derby they've had.

[Ryan Lemond]

And you mentioned the storyline they could for, for three weeks publicized, you know, Renegade versus Golden Temple, the Ortiz brothers, y', all these great stories over and over and over to get us all excited. And we would tune in to watch the Preakness just for that.

[Matt Jones]

And the other horses will talk trash. Like, further Ado will be like, you cut me off. I'm getting you the next time at Backlash. You know, I mean, I get it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Horses these days are so soft.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. These horses, like, you know, oh, I think that would be great to sit there and, you know, commitment goes at. Or commandment. At SummerSlam, I'm getting you back.

[Drew Franklin]

And you could, like, hold their winnings. Like, you don't get your garland roses till the end, and you've run in the Preakness, like, and then you get the road. Like. Like, you can't graduate until you pay your parking tickets. You do not get your Derby trophy until you've run the entire Triple Crown. You have to win it.

[Matt Jones]

They don't let you. But all the trophies, they don't let you graduate till you pay your parking tickets.

[Drew Franklin]

Tickets, Allegedly.

[Matt Jones]

Did that happen to you?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I. I don't think so.

[Matt Jones]

I don't remember.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't go to graduation, but I did have some parking tickets.

[Matt Jones]

Doesn't matter.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not about me saying, hold their prizes until they've honored their commitments in the whole Triple Crown.

[Matt Jones]

All right, gotcha.

[Drew Franklin]

And their parking tickets.

[Matt Jones]

Who's up next? Shannon.

[Shannon Dawson]

Let's go to Chad.

[Matt Jones]

Chad. Go ahead, Chad.

[Caller]

Hey, how you doing, man? First time, long time.

[Matt Jones]

Who?

[Caller]

Hey, I just have a different take on the Pope thing with the Marcio Santos guy. I think. I'm wondering if the desperate university that guy was tweeting about was lsu. I mean, you have.

[Matt Jones]

He mentioned Mark Pope in the tour. He mentioned Mark Pope in Kentucky in the tweet.

[Caller]

Oh, I see. Because.

[Matt Jones]

And they didn't want to do that. LSU didn't go there. We went there. Well, I mean, they may have gone at another time, but when that guy was tweeting, Mark Pope was at the game.

[Caller]

See, and I was thinking maybe Mark Pope was just going there, you know, trying to overcome, you know, whatever bigger offer LSU had, or he may be.

[Matt Jones]

He may have been. I mean, that may be what he was doing. I don't. I'm not sure. Again, it's hard to know because, like, they don't. They haven't really told people, so it's hard to know what they're. What they're doing in a given moment.

[Caller]

Yeah, good point. Good point. But I don't know. I guess the contrarian in me is starting to, you know, cheer for Mark Pope more as things get negative.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I get that. I appreciate the call. I'm like that sometimes. In sports, like the person everybody's beaten up on, then I try to like see the, like have sympathy for. So I get that. I'm like that in a lot of sports, actually.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Praying he turns around. I still, even though I have plenty of pope complaints, I still maintain that winning with him will be better than winning with everyone else because he cares so much in the history. It's just right now I'm a little skeptical on that. But I want it to work.

[Matt Jones]

If you're a Kentucky fan, and I think this would be true, you find his harshest critic online. If you said to him, if Mark Pope turns it around, would you be happy? I think they all would say yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody's gonna say, like everyone at its core, the commonality that we all have is that everyone. Ryan wants him to win.

[Ryan Lemond]

We all want him to succeed and there's still a chance he can get there. He this seat may not be the season, but I think he went a lot of his back. By the way, they play like you can't get blown up by 40 by Gonzaga and you can't have these horrible losses you had this past year. But this could be a team like he had his first year. I've said as many times. I think they could probably win us a lot of. Win a lot of people back.

[Matt Jones]

Hope so. Spring is sprung and that means you might be getting outside more. Maybe you have a 50 mile walk where you could have physical injury, aches, pains. That's where court physical therapy can help. At Court, your therapists know what it takes to help you heal and get back to things you enjoy. Over 70 locations statewide and it's easy to find a center near you or go to court.com that's K O R T to experience rehab more. I'm looking at the text machine. I'm going to go ahead and say if you took the time to write me angry that I said that. We said Trump couldn't walk 50 miles. You've got to get a life block because there can't. Melania would not even think he could walk 50 miles, people. We'll take a break. Be right back.

[Podcast Narrator]

KSI, this is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us.

[Caller]

The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great take over another country.

[Matt Jones]

From Iheart podcasts, Saigon, Please allow me

[Drew Franklin]

to introduce Joseph Sherman.

[Matt Jones]

You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much.

[Podcast Narrator]

I like hearing you talk.

[Shannon Dawson]

One city, a divided country and the war that tore America apart.

[Matt Jones]

This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese brown fire.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you read me?

[Matt Jones]

They're pouring petrol all over him. He's holding matches.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm on a landmine for free.

[Matt Jones]

Darling, let's get out. Freedom. Bomb it now.

[Shannon Dawson]

Saigon. Starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict.

[Matt Jones]

Staying here's madness.

[Drew Franklin]

The world should hear about this.

[Matt Jones]

There's a few fire coming to this country and it's going to burn out everything.

[Shannon Dawson]

Listen to Saigon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Every story has a point where it's balanced on a knife's edge. That's where we begin. For some, it's a confrontation no parent ever expects. They finally admit we're here to take your children. The department has taken custody and we're here to take your kids. It was just shock and horror and desperation. For others, it's surviving the unthinkable. As they're having this gun battle thousands of feet up in the air, many of the bullets start to puncture the aircraft. I thought we were gonna die then. The Knife is a podcast about real people whose lives were upended in an instant. We talked to the people who lived it, unpacking what happened, how they got through it and what came next. And on our off record episodes, we go even deeper into the reporting and answer the questions you can't stop thinking about. New episodes drop every Thursday on the Exactly Right Network and the iHeart Podcast Network. Listen to the Knife on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on Biggie? You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable.

[Matt Jones]

Cause I wanna get confident.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

This is DJ Hester Prynne's Music Is Therapy, a weekly podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question. Who do you wanna. What's the song that can take you there?

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't care about my life circumstance when I listened to that stuff. It didn't matter to me.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

Music changes what you feel and what you feel changes what you do. Right that moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Healing is the shift from survival into choice.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

It's Mental Health Month and I'm talking to experts like celebrity therapist, the mindful mft Lynn Hoffman from Music Saved Me and the man who Shaped My Ear. More than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies, I'll pair them with the right records and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for you every day.

[Matt Jones]

This has been so much fun.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

Music is therapy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.

[Matt Jones]

And just then, we felt the plane turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.

[Podcast Narrator]

Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identities and relationships and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, techy Sports Radio. I learned something during the break from Drew. You don't. You never got your diploma from uk

[Drew Franklin]

I won't say I never got it. It might be in a box, but I. If I got it, I looked at it, put it in a box, and haven't thought about it since.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, but that's different than not getting it. So you.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not certain I have it. I don't even know what it looks like.

[Matt Jones]

You don't care about having your.

[Drew Franklin]

Not even a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

It's been 17 years. Would not impact my life at all.

[Matt Jones]

Your office or something like, you went. You graduated from college. That's a nice thing, isn't it?

[Drew Franklin]

Who's gonna walk in and be like, oh, you went to uk?

[Matt Jones]

Maybe Avery Rose.

[Drew Franklin]

She already hears enough about UK Right now, just me talking around the house. I don't think she's a huge fan at the moment.

[Matt Jones]

You can't.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm just not sentimental to my college.

[Matt Jones]

Avery Rose, be a Tennessee fan. You can't let your.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know. I've already kept it. No orange gear. That's none of that. But I don't know that she cares about diploma. Nor do I.

[Matt Jones]

One person Writes Andy Barr would say Trump could walk 50 miles. That's actually a really good joke. That's actually Andy bar could walk 50

[Drew Franklin]

miles carrying Trump so much. I think.

[Matt Jones]

All right. 859-282287. Going to go the phones. I do have to say two things. One, Ted Turner died this morning. Ted Turner. I mean go over this guy's accolades. Started cnn. Right. Own TBS and tnt. Younger people might not realize the TBS in T. In the T is Turner. Turner Broadcasting System and Turner Network Television. Also own the Atlanta Braves. Shannon, during a lot of the years that we grew up watching it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Owned WCW for a long time.

[Matt Jones]

Wcw. I forgot on WCW and I forgot about that. You're right. And then, you know, was. That's a. Was a major part. Mary Jane Fonda.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Big part of my childhood. I preferred WCW over wwf. I was kind of the weirdos. That was a nitro guy. Plus a Braves fan. It's like just whatever Ted Turner was putting it out, throw it my way.

[Matt Jones]

Am I correct that with the Braves maybe one of you all. Did he not at one point fire the manager and for like a week manage the team himself?

[Drew Franklin]

He managed the team.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Caller]

There's.

[Ryan Lemond]

I can see video of him wearing the cap in the dugout. Yeah, he definitely did that.

[Matt Jones]

Can you imagine somebody doing that now? No.

[Shannon Dawson]

Like, yeah. What would that be equivalent to?

[Matt Jones]

Like he, he managed the team himself.

[Shannon Dawson]

Like Mitch Barnhart, like coaching a basketball team.

[Matt Jones]

No, it would be like Eli Capilouto. It would be like Eli Capilouto firing Mark Pope and then he's coaching the next game. Like that's a crazy thing for somebody to do, isn't it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Completely forgot about that moment in Braves history. But that's a fact.

[Drew Franklin]

That's true. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

That's wild record.

[Drew Franklin]

He only did it for a game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Was it just one game?

[Drew Franklin]

And they were terrible. It was in the middle of a losing streak.

[Matt Jones]

He also owned the Hawks. I didn't realize that they're showing it on the screen. He. He owned the Braves when they won the World Series.

[Ryan Lemond]

They were the hair. Their heyday.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. During their heyday. So rest in peace there in Atlanta

[Ryan Lemond]

in the 80s, you know. Now we got 24 hour news sources everywhere. He started CNN and everybody kind of laughed at him. You know. There's no way people are going to watch news 24 hours.

[Matt Jones]

They had no idea.

[Shannon Dawson]

And they did the, the 05 thing. Like the 705 starts.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. He loved to start at 05.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't understand like what the strategy

[Matt Jones]

was behind that, he would always start at.05. You're right. I think the idea was it would go a few minutes before. All right. Also, you know, people try to say we have a KSR curse and, you know. You don't believe that, do you?

[Shannon Dawson]

I do.

[Matt Jones]

Well, for those of us that don't believe it, last night was a tough night. If you remember, yesterday on the show, I said, emilio Pagan, I'm done with him. He needs to not be the closer. First pitch last night, he tears his hamstring.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's not a coincidence.

[Matt Jones]

They have to cart him off the field on his first pitch and he's gone. Now, I didn't want him to be the closer, but we didn't need to cart him off and have him tear his hamstring.

[Drew Franklin]

You're pretty good health. You didn't wish all this?

[Matt Jones]

I wanted him to like be an accountant somewhere. I didn't want him to be in the hospital with a torn hamstring.

[Ryan Lemond]

You were pretty hard on him yesterday. I think the baseball gods were listening to you yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I felt bad for him also. We lost again. That's five straight games. Second time in a row we've been leading. Go in the eighth inning and lose. Yeah, they're done. I've told you all year. Even when they were doing well, I was like, I don't think we're very good. And it's starting to show it.

[Drew Franklin]

But there's gonna be a moment, I'll say mid June, maybe early July, where they win, you know, five out of seven. Well, you know, mathematically we're still in it.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

We're getting used to this roller coaster. We've seen it a few years now.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But I just for the record, did not want the man to tear his hamstring. I felt bad about that. Who's next? Bob and Jamestown, 859-280-2287.

[Shannon Dawson]

He can walk 50 miles.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Bob.

[Caller]

Anything. Wednesday. So I'm going to bring up the death penalty. You know, we've had this terrible case over here in Maria. My uncle Harrison Smith was a court appointed attorney for Richard Hickok, who was one of the characters in the Truman Capote's book In Cold Blood.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, old Dick.

[Caller]

And he was the last one of. The last guy. He was the last guy hung in the state of Kansas. But I think it's time for the death penalty. I mean, it's just Kentucky's been wavering on it for. I think the last person was executed was maybe 10 years ago. There's a guy named buys it's been murdered. A deputy over. Thank you very much.

[Matt Jones]

Appreciate the call, Bob. Wow, that's a classic Bob line.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

It's Ask anything Wednesday. So I want to talk about the death penalty. That's if you were to encompass Bob and Jamestown in a of lot.

[Drew Franklin]

Was he gonna ask anything?

[Matt Jones]

He just wanted to say what he thought. I'm against the death penalty. So if you were asking and I'm against it in all cases because I don't think the government should be killing people. But, but that's just me and I know that's not what everybody thinks. I worked on a death penalty case and I've talked about that before, wrote about it in my book. We'll take a break, come back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

T.J. smith, personal injury attorney.

[Podcast Narrator]

While T.J. still make them pay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now more Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back techy sports radio here at KS Bar Grill Wings day. Folks are eating their food over there. We got some people here from Spencer County, Taylorsville. You've been to Taylorsville?

[Ryan Lemond]

I've not. I think that's J.D. shelburne country, though, isn't it? Yeah, it is.

[Matt Jones]

I've been. They got a cute, I don't know why I'm using the word cute, but they have a cute little downtown in, in Taylorsville. It's like off the interstate there. You got to go down roads and you get there and yeah, I've been there. A lot of antique stores, if I remember correctly.

[Ryan Lemond]

Is there, is there a big lake there or something like a park? A Lake? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. 859-280-2287. All right, couple things here. There it's wild wings, wild eggs. Eggs. Well, I said wing wild eggs Wednesday. $50 in wild eggs gift card. If you guess the word it is now going up on the KSR Instagram. Ryan, usually you pick the word and it's easy. I don't know this word off the top of my head. Drew, did you figure it out?

[Drew Franklin]

He hadn't posted it yet, so I haven't seen it.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so it's up on. Now remember, if you answer it within the first 10 minutes, he'll pick a winner from someone who answers it. I can't off the top of my head figure out what this word is and I'm not going to do like a lot of people in cheat and put it into chat GPT. Those people should be, should be sued.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, get in my brain and Maybe you can figure out what I would post.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon, do you see it? Do you know what it is?

[Shannon Dawson]

I need to look it up here. So it's on ksr, the show, right?

[Matt Jones]

Ksr, the show. Instagram. So you can look at it now. Now, while people are looking at it. Ryan, I posted a picture this morning on. On Twitter. Everyone pull out the Twitter machine, the tweeter, and you see this picture. You may have seen it everywhere. Have you all seen this picture of Tina Fey, Timothee Chalamet, and Kylie Jenner? It's at a Knicks game. Have you seen that? Have you guys seen this picture here? So it's at a Knicks game. And the premise of the picture is that each of these people represent a different look of a person. So what people have been doing is, like, posting what neighborhood each of these people would live in. Okay, so what? So Tina Fey is dressed up very proper. Timothy Chalamet looks like he just rolled out of bed. And then Kylie Jenner is very fashionable. So people across the country have been putting, like, different neighborhoods, etc. So I wanted to ask you, Ryan, in. I said, Shannon, that in Louisville, these neighborhoods would be. Tina Fey would be Nulu.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Chalamet would be the Highlands, and Kylie Jenner would be Norton Comets.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's probably fair.

[Matt Jones]

Do you like that explanation for each of them?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. What about Tracy Morgan there?

[Matt Jones]

Well, Tracy Morgan's not in this picture.

[Shannon Dawson]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Jones]

All right. So my question for you now, Ryan, is if we were in Lexington looking at that picture, which person is each neighborhood? We'll start with Tina Fey. She's got bookish. She's dressed up, but she's got, like, a sports jacket on. I kind of think that's Chevy Chase.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's exactly what I was gonna say. That is, without a doubt, Chevy Chase.

[Matt Jones]

Does that look like Chevy Chase to you?

[Drew Franklin]

Drew does to be different. I'll say she's a little more over on Ashland, pretty close to campus. She might be walking to UK to teach. Okay, but Chevy Chase is good.

[Matt Jones]

Chevy Chase is good. Where. Which neighborhood is Timothy Chalamet?

[Ryan Lemond]

See, I'm. I'm thinking maybe he's Masterson station. We kind of. We kind of got. You know, we're the west side. The west side's the best side station.

[Matt Jones]

Now, he's much more grungy than that. I think he's over there like. Like where West 6th beer is. What do you call that neighborhood?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know the exact neighborhood.

[Caller]

Be.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm just saying I was getting some Brian Station vibes. From him.

[Caller]

Maybe.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe. I was just at the Bryan station, Kroger, and I think I saw that guy.

[Matt Jones]

So you think he's Brian State?

[Drew Franklin]

I see a little Brian Station there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, then Kylie would be what?

[Ryan Lemond]

She's a downtown condo. She's living on top of one of the buildings downtown. A big, high rise condo.

[Matt Jones]

See, I was thinking she was more Hamburg.

[Drew Franklin]

I haven't seen many of those walking around. Hamburg? Well, yeah. What is a downtown neighborhood?

[Matt Jones]

No, but like, where do people live that dress that good?

[Drew Franklin]

Not really. Lexington.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, these people are rarely in Lexington. I would agree.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think she's one of the high rise condos downtown. These newer condo areas, I think that's where she's at.

[Matt Jones]

They're single women living in those condos.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, we got to pick somewhere.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Unless she wants to live right beside me.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, that's weird. Why do you say these things?

[Ryan Lemond]

I have an extra room. Kylie, if you want to live in my house.

[Matt Jones]

Stop that. Just say it worse.

[Drew Franklin]

What's a.

[Matt Jones]

You have a girlfriend.

[Ryan Lemond]

I love you, yoga girl.

[Drew Franklin]

What's a very wealthy part with him?

[Shannon Dawson]

Shannon, I've been asking that question for years.

[Matt Jones]

How could he make that conversation? Look at Mario just shaking his head like, why aren't you so weird? All right, who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Now let's go to Chris.

[Matt Jones]

Chris, go ahead, Chris.

[Caller]

You know, man, a lot of people blame KSR for stuff. I can now officially say my marriage is ending today because of that caller. I'm gonna leave my wife for that hot man that tried to pick up.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you're gonna leave for Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I wasn't interested.

[Caller]

Yes, Matt, since it's Mask. Ask anything. I have a random dumb question. Why do you buy a hat and hoodies of teams that you don't like? Because I always hate it when I. They're like, yeah, it's just a hat. It's just a hoodie. Like, it's always embarrassing when I'm like, yeah, should the Yankees bench Caballero for both?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I see. So you assume. You assume somebody wears a hat, they actually really like the team.

[Caller]

Yeah. When you wear, like, if you wear your Buffalo Bills hoodie, it's a great question. I know you like the Bears.

[Matt Jones]

It's. It's. For me, it's just like. So people get on me about that and they'll say, oh, you're a fake Kentucky or a fake Reds fan because you'll wear a Yankee hat or a different college. For me, I am sure I have some sort of obsessive compulsive thing where I. When I'm into something, I really want to have as much of it as possible. So, like, I don't. I don't drink. I don't, like, do drugs. I rarely accept. Occasionally. Now we'll bet on a game. But, like, I don't. I don't have behaviors that are, like, addictive. But I guess I showcase that side through the few things I like. I want to have as many of them as I can. So, like, when I watch a TV show, I don't know how other people. I have to watch every episode if I can't watch every episode. Like, I would never watch Law and Order because I can't go back and watch all 27 seasons of it. So I like sneakers and hoodies, and so I like to have as many of them and hats as I do, even if it's teams I don't care about. Also, I'll buy them when I go somewhere, and it's like a memory of going to that place. Ryan. Right. So, like, we went to Colorado State one time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

I don't care about Colorado State, but I bought the shirt because we had been. And now I remember us going and passing through.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's like a little souvenir, a little memento from your trip. We went to watch the kids. Royals. You bought a Kansas City Royals?

[Matt Jones]

There's a woman I know, she collects magnets, and she made me. When I was in Europe, every country I went to, I bought her a magnet. So I loaded down my suitcase with, like, 20 magnets. But she wanted. She likes. So that's it. That's what I get. It is it's not an affinity for the team necessarily, but you get people

[Drew Franklin]

like that guy said walking. What do you think about your Delaware Blue Hens?

[Matt Jones]

All the time. So they'll be like, I had an Edmonton Oilers hoodie. And they're like, how'd you become an Oilers fan? And I'm like, I'm not. And it is weird.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a whole conversation about why he.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I've never, you know, I've never even been to Edmonds, guys.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, I'm just saying hi. I don't care why you went about the hat.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. Who's next?

[Shannon Dawson]

Mark?

[Matt Jones]

Mark. Go ahead, Mark.

[Caller]

What's going on, man?

[Matt Jones]

What's going on?

[Caller]

Hey, real quick, I want to touch on a couple things. Hey, did you see John with John Ross thing said about the. About Blue Bloods?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. John Rosky was basically saying, blue Bloods are done. I disagree with him on that. But I did see it. Yes.

[Caller]

You said there's only two true blue bloods right now.

[Matt Jones]

What, Duke and Yukon. Is that what he said? Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

Duke and Yukon. And that the. The other ones. Even though you said North Carolina is a little closer to being a blue blood than the other than. I guess, which would be us and Kansas. But, hey, real quick, another thing, by

[Matt Jones]

the way, I don't see how you can say that. I don't see how you can say North Carolina is closer. I mean, Kansas has been. I know Kansas, the last two years has not had great postseason, but Kansas has been good for 20 straight years. And we've been a little down.

[Caller]

Current roster.

[Matt Jones]

But if you're gonna do. But if he's gonna say that the current roster, then I guess the blue blood is just whoever happens to be good that year. And I don't really. That's not my definition of what a blue blood is.

[Caller]

Hey, one real. One more thing. Hey, real quick. Do you know who Marlo Hampton is?

[Matt Jones]

I do not know.

[Caller]

Okay. Marlo Hampton is a person who. I don't know what she basically does. She was a Real Housewife of Atlanta lady. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Caller]

However, she dated Ted Turner, so Ted's dead now. She happens to be dating Tyler Perry, so, I mean, she must be a Goldie. I'm not saying she's a Golden.

[Matt Jones]

Wow, you guys. Yeah. And also, I appreciate the call. Ted Turner and Tyler Perry would be very different types of people to date, I would think, except their MO.

[Drew Franklin]

The other thing they have in common is a lot of money in Atlanta.

[Matt Jones]

Did you see Bill Belich and his lady at the derby walking together?

[Ryan Lemond]

I did saw the photo of them together at the derby.

[Matt Jones]

And did you see the caption she posted on the picture?

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

So they were walking. Actually, I think it was at the Oaks, but they were walking a horse on the track. And she said, used to being in the mud with you. Is that makes you gag or. You know what, though? The couples made it longer than you thought they would.

[Ryan Lemond]

They've survived the test of time so far.

[Matt Jones]

You didn't think they were gonna make it that far.

[Ryan Lemond]

I didn't.

[Drew Franklin]

I doubted love. I gotta remind myself the heart wants what it wants. And they seem to want each other's hearts.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon, are you surprised they're still together?

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, but, I mean, do you think this is gonna last 10 years from now?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know if he's gonna be alive.

[Drew Franklin]

He's gonna last 10 years.

[Matt Jones]

But if he's alive 10 years from now, then why not Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, my assumption. My assumption would be she's dating, hoping to marry him, Right?

[Shannon Dawson]

We're hoping he'll kill over.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But, well, but until they get married, it won't matter.

[Shannon Dawson]

It's true. Yeah. Get married, then kill them off.

[Drew Franklin]

She could be like this Marlo Hampton of the NFL. She'd go to Andy Reid next.

[Matt Jones]

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[Podcast Narrator]

Ksr this is Saigon. The story of my family and of the country that shaped us.

[Caller]

The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country.

[Shannon Dawson]

From iheart Podcasts. Saigon.

[Drew Franklin]

Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman.

[Matt Jones]

You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much.

[Podcast Narrator]

I like hearing you talk.

[Shannon Dawson]

One city, a divided country and the war that tore America apart.

[Matt Jones]

This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you read me?

[Matt Jones]

They're pouring petrol all over him. He's holding matches.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm on a landmine for free.

[Matt Jones]

Die. Let's get out. Freedom from Vietnam.

[Shannon Dawson]

Saigon. Starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict.

[Matt Jones]

Staying here's madness.

[Drew Franklin]

The world should hear about this.

[Matt Jones]

They there's a fire coming to this country and it's going to burn out everything.

[Shannon Dawson]

Listen to Saigon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Every story has a point where it's balanced on a knife's edge. That's where we begin. For some, it's a confrontation no parent ever expects. They finally admit we're here to take your children. The department has taken custody and we're here to take your kids. It was just shock and horror and desperation. For others, it's surviving the unthinkable as they're having this gun battle thousands of feet up in the air, many of the bullets start to puncture the aircraft. I thought we were gonna die then. The Knife is a podcast about real people whose lives were upended in an instant. We talked to the people who lived it, unpacking what happened, how they got through it, and what came next. And on our off record episodes, we go even deeper into the reporting and answer the questions you can't stop thinking about. New episodes drop every Thursday on the Exactly Right Network and the iHeart Podcast Network. Listen to the Knife on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

When you feel uncomfortable. What do you put on Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable.

[Matt Jones]

Cause I wanna get confident.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

This is DJ Hester Prynne's Music is Therapy, a weekly podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question. Who do you want to be? And what's the song that can take you there?

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't care about my life circumstance when I listened to that stuff. It didn't matter to me.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

Music changes what you feel, and what you feel changes what you do, Right? That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Healing is the shift from survival into choice.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

It's Mental Health Month and I'm talking to experts like celebrity therapist, the mindful mft, Lynne Hoffman from Music saved me and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies, I'll pair them with the right records, and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for you every day.

[Matt Jones]

This has been so much fun.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

Music is therapy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.

[Matt Jones]

We were God's chosen kingdom on earth.

[Podcast Narrator]

He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back.

[Matt Jones]

Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets meeting the president of Turkey.

[Podcast Narrator]

I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across.

[Matt Jones]

When Jacob met Levan, this went to a billion dollar fraud.

[Podcast Narrator]

But with two kings from entirely different worlds. Just how long can their empire survive

[Matt Jones]

the largest tax investigation in American history?

[Podcast Narrator]

You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?

[Matt Jones]

Jacob told Lavon. You're ruining my life.

[Podcast Narrator]

Listen to Kingdom of fraud. Starting on May 12th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back. It is Techie Sports Radio. We have some breaking news. Shannon. Kentucky women get a commitment from Aja Sivka. She's 6 foot 4 guard, which for the women's game, a 6 foot 4 guard is huge and was the 10th pick in the WNBA draft last year. So she was the 10th pick in the draft last year, decided to go back to Slovenia instead of joining the Chicago sky, and now she will come play college basketball at UK instead of joining the Chicago sky, who. Whose rights expired to her last week.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, Kenny Brooks is absolutely killing it. We don't talk about it because we're all focused on Mark Pope not killing it, but Kenny Brooks is just loading up this year.

[Matt Jones]

A 6 foot 4 guard.

[Ryan Lemond]

It was a top 10 pick in the WNBA draft.

[Matt Jones]

Sitting here just trying to think. I mean, Clara Strack was our center and she is 6 foot 4. So we're gonna have a point guard that's the same height as our center.

[Drew Franklin]

It was drafted just a few spots behind George Amore. For a little perspective there last year.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, went fifth and she went 10.

[Drew Franklin]

We don't give talk enough about what Kenny Brooks is doing over there. He has three McDonald's all American freshmen coming in. Two of them are top 10. I think one's like 30th, Claire Strax coming back with other people coming back. And then you add a 10th draft pick. I mean, he has a.

[Matt Jones]

Well, for people who just example, she went tenth. You all may remember Haley Van Lith that played at Louisville and TCU. She went 11th. So this one, this girl went one pick before Haley Van Lith, who played in a couple of Final Fours.

[Drew Franklin]

So when they're absolutely stacked over there,

[Ryan Lemond]

Shaquille o' Neal daughters coming in, like,

[Matt Jones]

we might be really good, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Like super good.

[Matt Jones]

I just want to see a 6 foot 4 guard in the women's. Do you ever remember a woman that tall that's a guard?

[Ryan Lemond]

No.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that would be the equivalent of like 6, 9 or 610 guard in the NBA, which do those exist? I mean, I guess magic was 6 9. Jalen Rose was really tall.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's not. It's a rarity to find a 64 female player that plays guard.

[Matt Jones]

Pretty impressive.

[Drew Franklin]

I was thinking Ryan Howard, but I just looked up. She's only six one, six two.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes, matt, I want your all's honest opinion and no sugarcoat. I only do this if you all will not put it online, especially YouTube. All right? Because I don't want I don't want to listen to people who don't hear the content context. What is the biggest reason you think Pope has not been able to get commitments from all these guys he's wanted? All right, so there are without question, many reasons. But if you had to say the primary biggest reason. Let's start with you, Drew. What would it be?

[Drew Franklin]

I. I don't know what.

[Matt Jones]

We're doing this at the end of the show, so it'll just go, I don't care.

[Drew Franklin]

Put my name on it.

[DJ Hester Prynne]

I don't care.

[Drew Franklin]

Whatever. He's sitting down at the table and is not connecting. I'm not in the room, so I don't know specifically, but he is just not gelling with these kids and their families when they get them to uk because to have all these visits and when they're flying in, we keep hearing about how Kentucky, all they have to do is close and they're not closing. Something is happening when they get to Lexington. I don't know if they're wanting to go out, have fun. He doesn't know where to tell them how to go have fun, or he's just not showing them what he's. He can offer as good as he needs to. But something is happening when they get to these face to faces and it's not working.

[Matt Jones]

So you're gonna. So your answer would be sort of Pope personality.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

I'd say official visits. Whatever is happening in official visits seems to be going wrong because we've had guys that we thought, well, they're gonna commit before they leave, and then they leave without a commitment.

[Matt Jones]

It's happening too frequently, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. It's not just this year. You go back to last year. They obviously, Kentucky has the money, they had the facilities, they had the tradition. What is it the common denominator is. I think Drew's exactly 100% right. Not connecting somehow with these players when they come on campus for their visit.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. If that's true, though, what can you do about that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I thought they did the right thing by hiring Mo Williams. Bringing in somebody with a little. Maybe they can connect a little better. I thought Jamal Crawford would even add to that if they brought him on camp. They still got that coaching spot sitting there, waiting for somebody.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So my answer is in the ballpark of Drew's answer, but not 100% correct or not 100 the same. He may be correct. I don't think these guys, I don't think this staff is connected to the modern world of how recruiting is working in the nil. Era, Like, I just think, you know, Rick Barnes. I don't know. Rick Barnes did an interview last week. Contrary to what people say, that nobody does interviews. Rick Barnes did an interview, and he said recruiting is easier today than it's ever been.

[Caller]

It.

[Matt Jones]

He was like, you just find somebody who knows how to talk to the family, and you give them an offer. He was like, it used to be the case that you had to bring them in, wine and dine them, do all this stuff. He was like, now you just find somebody who knows how to talk to the people and to make them an offer. He literally said, people say recruiting's harder. He was like, I think it's unbelievably easier. And I heard that, and I thought, now, that's an old man saying that. But he's kind of right. Like, there's a world in which this should be easier now. You don't have to go flying to all these AAU tournaments and sitting there. You kind of just have to have somebody who can talk to the guy and then go, all right, what do you need? Okay, I got it. Or I don't.

[Drew Franklin]

That and stuff you used to have to sell. You have to be like, here's our lodge. Look, these shower heads are made for tall people. Now it's like, I'm giving you $2 million. You go find whatever apartment you want. That doesn't matter. It doesn't. Like, Cal was big on showing off the craft center. Remember, it had special beds for tall people. That stuff used to matter. Now it's like, you're rich. You'll get your own apartment.

[Matt Jones]

They don't even live in the lodge locker rooms.

[Drew Franklin]

Some of that stuff that used to be big in recruitments. I doubt they even care whatsoever. It's like, what am I getting paid, and how many minutes am I gonna get?

[Ryan Lemond]

Tom Izzo, I think he was the one who said you'd have to start recruiting a kid as a sophomore. And for three years, you had to constantly recruit the same kid, hoping he would commit by the time he's a senior. Now, you meet a senior within 15 minutes, you talk about money. What are you gonna offer me?

[Matt Jones]

So I just wonder if, like, we created a staff. That was really good.

[Ryan Lemond]

Look who it is.

[Matt Jones]

That was really good on how it used to be. Well, look who it is. Legends in the house, Mr. Bromley. Here, let's give him this real quick. You mind you jump on for a second? All right, Here, put this on.

[Drew Franklin]

People need to hear that voice.

[Matt Jones]

I just came by to. How's Rob Bromley.

[Drew Franklin]

Good.

[Matt Jones]

I'm good. How. Well, it's nice to see you. Told me to stop by one of these days, so I was coming down Broadway and I thought. You are welcome to stop by anytime.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, you're.

[Matt Jones]

What are you doing in retirement? I'm, you know, I'm hanging in there.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm.

[Matt Jones]

I'm enjoying life going on. I got enough. You always have something going on, you

[Ryan Lemond]

know, I mean, I can't believe these

[Matt Jones]

people who say they're going to do nothing or what, but, you know, so what's a Rob Bromley day? Just walking around being. Being a badass.

[Podcast Narrator]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

You know,

[Matt Jones]

Can you do one thing for the listeners here? Because I know they'll like it because I've missed it, and if I've missed it, I know they have. Can you give me one? I'm Rob Bromley. Like one of your intros you used to do. Oh, wow. You mean like.

[Caller]

Like.

[Matt Jones]

Let's just say you're introducing a game or one of the things you would have done back in the gosh, you know. Good evening, everybody. It's Kentucky and Tennessee tonight in Rupp Arena. There you go. Great to see you, man. Thank you all very much. We'll see you later. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.