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Drew Franklin
Guys, it's a big day.
Matt Jones
You have Milan Momcilovich is making his decision as to whether or not he will enter the NBA draft today. Don't know if he will make his college decision today, but at least the NBA draft decision is due by midnight. Mark Pope kind of did one of his first extensive interviews since the off season.
Drew Franklin
And there's a lot of other stuff,
Matt Jones
including some personal news. Guys, how are you doing this morning?
Billy
We are excellent. You sound great today. Good to have you back stateside.
Matt Jones
Not on the phone. You know it. We got connected a lot easier when you're in the continental United States to get connected. But we're gonna start, we're gonna start with a little personal news that we just announced this morning that I just wanted to explain to fans what what was going on. Those of you that have listened to this show, well, you've listened the show for over 15 years, but at least in the last eight and a half, nine years you've heard us talk about. We've many times done the show from KS Bar, which we began. Yeah. Little, little over eight years ago. Unfortunately, we've had to make the decision that as a full time daily bar, we're going to have to close and we're going to close Rail Bird weekend. We're going to go through Rail bird, which is June 6th and 7th and then close on the 7th. The decision is unfortunately been coming for a little while, but one we had hoped to avoid but is kind of inevitable in the market as it is. We just financially can't kind of keep it going on a daily pace as we have have done.
Drew Franklin
It's a combination of a lot of factors.
Matt Jones
You know, the first couple years we were open was great and then Covid hit and you know, we, we thanks to you all that. Listen, we, we kind of survived Covid. Okay. But you know, people change their processes. I would say the combination of three things. One, food price cost, which starting three to three and a half four years ago have just completely risen. And you know, there comes a point that, that becomes very difficult recently. Real economic issues in the Last six, six to eight months.
Drew Franklin
And then quite frankly, you know, I
Matt Jones
mean, the bar is built on the premise of Kentucky sports and, you know, some, some struggles in that area in the last few years all kind of combined to where we just couldn't consistently make it work. And it stinks because we, we've done it for a long time and I love it. It's one of the things I was most proud about. We have a staff that has been amazing. Monique at the start, who ran it and, and has been great, you know, become a good friend, but also, like, you couldn't ask for a better person to run a place like that. Crutch, who's been with us almost from the beginning. And then there are over the years who've work, come in and work there, in and out that I could name. And I hate it for them. You know, we, we probably kept this going a year longer than it made sense just because we wanted to try to, to, to make it work. But, you know, it just didn't. It didn't happen.
Drew Franklin
But so that's.
Matt Jones
It stinks. And one of the things we're going to do today is Drew and I are going to talk about some of the really good memories over the last eight years of things that have happened. But I will say that the thing that always worked at the place was on game days, and we are going to have a game day experience where we partner with another restaurant. But I can't really announce that today. It's not my restaurant, so I have to wait for them. And I think people will love it.
Drew Franklin
But I mean, it's kind of like
Matt Jones
when, when we did the thing with KSR and on three, like, I'm not going to be kind of one of the couple people running it like we did for a long time. And that's, you know, it's both. Well, it's not happy. It's sad because that was something I. That has been a great experience for everybody. I do want to take a second to thank not only the folks that we work there, as I mentioned, they, they are the reason it existed, but also the literally tens of thousands of you that have walked through the doors at some point. It has been such a great meeting space for everybody. And part of why I'm glad we're doing the thing in the future is that can still happen in those game day atmospheres. But one of the things we're gonna miss is getting to do the show out there every day. We will still do pre game shows out there, but we did the show out there, you know, a ton.
Drew Franklin
I hate that.
Matt Jones
That's when you'd really get to have conversations with people that come in the morning. And so that's disappointing. But thank you to everybody who made it go as long as you can. Being an independent restaurant is really hard financially. And I would say to you, if there's one piece of advice I'd give, find the one in your community. Support more than once. Support it. It's hard when you have one place. It's really hard, especially today. It's harder today probably than it's been in who knows how long. Go see him. Make it a point to do that because, you know, it's a tough road to hope so. With all that said, Drew, you were a part of it and been with it from the beginning. And, you know, I know you're bummed like I am.
Billy
Yeah, Very sad had to happen, but very sad that it had to happen. But also at the same time, we were very lucky for the run we had. As you said, the staff was amazing and so many great memories and experiences that can't take away from us. From game watch parties where Ryan ends up on the bar, your trivia nights, or just little things like when friends
Matt Jones
in jail, of course.
Billy
But even just little, those are the big ones that stand out. But little things like when friends and family come to town and they just kind of want to go support it. Kind of made you make you proud of it. So, yeah, it stinks. We're having to. To change the format up and it won't be a daily restaurant, but, man, what a great run we have. Going to miss. Going to miss all the times.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
When we opened, I mean, a lot of people said. Well, most people told me I was crazy to think about doing it. And because they said that, you know, that's not gonna work. Sorry, that location won't work. Blah, blah, blah.
Drew Franklin
You know, you guys really.
Matt Jones
This show and the people listening, like, you're the reason it worked as long as it did. Along with the people who made the food and staff like they. You guys made it happen.
Caller/Listener
And.
Matt Jones
And it was wonderful. It was a great ride. And like I said, I am looking forward to. I think there will be advantages to what it's going to be going forward, but I just wanted to announce it to you all, give everybody some context beyond just the. The statement and thank everyone. Now, we're going to be open through June 7th. We're going to be there for a couple shows next week and then especially rail bird weekend, if you're going to it. I hope people will come in, you
Drew Franklin
know, have our wings and cheese logs. I think in the new entity, we
Matt Jones
are going to keep our wings going, but a lot of the other stuff will probably change. So gives you, Drew, a last chance to come by and say hello. And we're gonna keep. If you gave us memorabilia and stuff to put on the walls, we're going to keep it up for the new thing. But, you know, obviously if you want your stuff back, you can come get it. But we're going to keep it, keep the things up so you don't have to do that immediately if you don't want to. But Drew, I can speak for Ryan and everybody else involved. Hubby, Jamie, you know, all the folks that have thank you for the last eight years of being so supportive. We really do appreciate it. So with that, go ahead.
Billy
I was going to say you mentioned the wings and cheese logs. I still, I still got a little more in me. This dad bod is already out of control. I was going to try to dial it back, but I am going to eat my weight and.
Drew Franklin
Are you gaining weight? You had gotten yourself kind of trim recently. Are you gaining weight?
Billy
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I've found the baby balance as well on a nice gut. So I'm going to leave the belly a little bit. And now. And now that we have just a little time left with KS Bar, I'm going to work in as many nights as I can there to say my goodbyes.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I do feel like it doesn't
Matt Jones
count towards whatever your weight goal is. If you have a restaurant and it's closing.
Drew Franklin
I think, Bill, you should be able
Matt Jones
to eat whatever you want during that period, don't you?
Billy
Yes.
Lee K. Howard
Yeah. Calories don't count if the bar is going to be closing soon, but calories,
Matt Jones
I'm glad you count till June 7th.
Lee K. Howard
I'm glad you guys are keeping the game day experience because there's just been some moments like Drew alluded to Ryan with his shirt off on the bar, the Santa Clara game winner. I mean, it's. It's a great meeting point for Kentucky fans.
Matt Jones
I wish there had been more of those.
Drew Franklin
We might have been able to stay open if we had. If we had had. You know, I mean, I said this
Matt Jones
to the Herald Leader before it started.
Drew Franklin
You know, the game plan behind the
Matt Jones
bar was can we break even and
Drew Franklin
then make profits, like break even on
Matt Jones
a daily basis and then really make the restaurant the rent and every. On the profits on the game days. And when we were Rolling really well. That's kind of how it worked. What ended up happening is the game days, just with the.
Drew Franklin
Except, oddly, football. It kind of doesn't matter whether you're good in football on the home games,
Matt Jones
because people go either way. The road games, maybe a little bit.
Drew Franklin
Basketball, though, we learn very quickly.
Matt Jones
Like, how good we are at basketball is a huge part of whether or not it works through. I mean, we learned that, like, our
Drew Franklin
basketball fan base is rabid.
Matt Jones
But, like, you know, when we would
Drew Franklin
lose, we'd have, like, three days in a row where people don't want to come because. And I get it. Because they don't want to be reminded of the loss.
Matt Jones
We really felt that, didn't we?
Billy
Oh, definitely. You know, it'd be empty after a bad loss, and then little things, like. I don't even know. Did we have an SEC tournament weekend? I don't think we had one the whole time it was open.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean, one of the things
Matt Jones
that was a huge hit is go back to the COVID year.
Drew Franklin
Like, we were good that year. And, Billy, you have to order the
Matt Jones
food in advance, right?
Drew Franklin
So we ordered food not only for a big SEC tournament, but for a big NCAA tournament run. And then Covid comes, and we can't use any of it. So, like, think of it, because that happened during the SEC tournament.
Matt Jones
So that was, like, a big hit. We donated all of it, and we're glad to do it, but, like, that was a big hit.
Drew Franklin
And then, you know, every year, you basically have to guess. You have to guess how good is
Matt Jones
the team going to be when you order your food?
Drew Franklin
And the. I will tell you the year that the guess went wrong.
Caller
Drew
Drew Franklin
the cows.
Matt Jones
Last year, that guess was not a great guess.
Billy
It's a lot of chicken.
Drew Franklin
You know, when Jack Gulke went off, Billy, it wasn't just the end of
Matt Jones
the Cal era, in some ways.
Lee K. Howard
Well, Drew can only eat so many cheese logs and chicken wings.
Drew Franklin
Well, there's only so much. There's only so much food you can take home.
Caller/Listener
And.
Matt Jones
And so, again, Lexington got a lot of donations that month, but. But I'm. I'm joking around. We. There were a lot of great times with it.
Drew Franklin
And you know. You know, when. That's one of the things about UK athletics, especially UK basketball, but really, you.
Matt Jones
Athletics as a whole.
Drew Franklin
The city's economic fortunes, to some extent, Drew, go back and forth based on the sporting events, and that's part of why it's like, you know, obviously, it's
Matt Jones
the passion and the goal to want to win.
Drew Franklin
But for the city of Lexington, you ask anybody that's in leadership or business, they'll tell you the city rises and falls sometimes about how good we are.
Billy
Oh, yeah, we always, you know, figured that was the case and heard it even like, you know, Nashville, where they'd write a story if Kentucky had an early exit from the sec. But then when we got involved in the industry, we really felt it and realized how it works.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. That's why it was always so dumb
Matt Jones
to me over the years when people
Drew Franklin
would say, you cast our guys. You just hate cow. You hate Pope. You want us to lose you. You're Duke. Duke infiltrator, Duke infiltrate. And I'm always like, dude, go look at our balance sheets when we lose.
Matt Jones
Ain't nothing positive about it. So, you know, but that's the way it is. But also it's. Yeah, so it stinks.
Drew Franklin
But with that said, we'll talk more
Matt Jones
about what's to come and the future. And I will always have the video of Ryan Linman with his shirt off. After we beat Florida, drew the when
Drew Franklin
we beat Houston with Tyler Herro that shot the watch party outside for the
Matt Jones
game against Mississippi State where we, if we had won, we would play Georgia and then ended up playing Georgia for number one. These all happened the first couple of years, but even as Billy said, the win over Santa Clara, etcetera, And Ryan going to jail, always a lot of great stuff. And I will also, in the new thing, be doing trivia and all that. All that we'll talk about in the coming weeks. So with that intro, we want to
Drew Franklin
talk a little basketball. Mark Pope said a lot. It's Milan Day.
Matt Jones
There's actually quite a bit to talk about. We'll take a break and we'll be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Drew Franklin
Welcome back.
Matt Jones
It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. Thank you to all the people riding with. Very nice comments. I always enjoy reading those. And everybody who comes by, let's talk a little basketball. Here today is Milan Momcilovich day.
Drew Franklin
Drew Franklin.
Matt Jones
I, he.
Drew Franklin
Well, first of all, he's going to
Matt Jones
decide whether he's going to go to the draft. You feel pretty confident he's coming back to college? Yes.
Billy
Yeah, I'd be surprised if he stays in the draft with where he's projected and what he could make if he goes back to school.
Drew Franklin
I don't really know, Billy, why he
Matt Jones
would go to the draft.
Drew Franklin
I mean, I haven't seen anywhere.
Matt Jones
He's been consistently, even mocked a first rounder. And even if he were to be picked at the end of the first round, he'll make more money next year in college. Now he would get a longer deal in the draft, but if he comes back, as long as he's decent in college, next year's draft is even worse.
Drew Franklin
One would presume that it could work out for him.
Matt Jones
So I would think coming back is a no brainer.
Lee K. Howard
Yeah. Not only are you going to be able to make money in college now, but is it fun to go to the G League, to go to the Fort Wayne Mad Ants and go on a charter bus across the country? A lot more opportunities here at Kentucky.
Drew Franklin
Well, that, you know, that's an underrated part of it. I don't know how much guys consider
Matt Jones
that, but it is a, it is. There's a big decline in lifestyle from playing in a major college program and playing in the G League.
Drew Franklin
But let's, but Drew, let's, let's talk
Matt Jones
about, you know, what amount of money we're talking.
Drew Franklin
There were some reports yesterday and again,
Matt Jones
I'm gonna say this till I'm blue in the face.
Drew Franklin
I don't necessarily believe any money reports, but I also don't think this is wrong, that maybe because he's waited so long and a couple of the schools, Kentucky and St. John specifically, need him so much that he could be commanding up to 6 to 8 million dollars.
Matt Jones
And just to give you a sense
Drew Franklin
of let's say that was correct, then he probably would be the second, third, maybe fourth highest paid college player of all time. Now, he's good, but Drew, he's not that good. But if he's got the chance to get that, he's got to do it, doesn't he?
Billy
Oh, definitely. And he's kind of kind of lucky with the pro, the way he's gone through the process, being one of the, the last available as it stands now, you know, big time. Target some schools that are in desperation mode, maybe even our own here in Lexington.
Matt Jones
Well, are we in desperation mode? Let's put it like that.
Drew Franklin
Like, how big is it now? I mean, I feel like we've set
Matt Jones
up like five of these this year.
Drew Franklin
This is the biggest recruitment ever. The biggest.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I mean we've, we've done it. We did with, with, with Rob Wright and we did it with Tyron Stokes and we've had all these moments where
Matt Jones
it's like, okay, now this is the one.
Drew Franklin
And they haven't happened. Is this the one, Drew?
Billy
I hope so. I hate to say Kentucky's in desperation mode. I really like what they have so far. They just need a little bit more and he is the more. But if I'm Mark Pope and mom Chilovich, his number is a little more than I want to pay. I think I still have to just meet him at his number with so much at stake this season because I, I genuinely believe he's the one missing piece to make this a top 15, maybe even top 10 team. And with all that's at stake, I think you got to play the game here because other schools like LSU is not mentioned. But Will Wade just, they thought they were getting Alan Gray. I wouldn't be surprised. Will Wade throws everything at him or one of these schools that realizes that their backs against the wall and there's not anything else out there. So I think Kentucky has to meet his number, whatever that is. Even if it's probably way above what his actual value is.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think, Billy, there's, there's a difference on paper. Like, let's just say he would be
Matt Jones
the fourth highest paid college player of all time.
Drew Franklin
I mean, AJ DeVonta, Tyron Stokes, probably making more. You know, maybe Yaxel or one of those guys did.
Matt Jones
Maybe one of the guys that, that came this year.
Drew Franklin
Whether he's worth that or not is kind of irrelevant at this point because the question is more whether or not
Matt Jones
he's worth it for Kentucky next year.
Drew Franklin
And I think when you consider how much this fan base needs to cheer
Matt Jones
for a team that wins throughout the year, how much this fan base has been on edge the last couple years, how much Mark Pope needs a successful season. Yeah, he may not on paper be worth 6, $7 million, but you know,
Drew Franklin
Billy, he might be worth that to
Matt Jones
Mark Pope next year.
Lee K. Howard
Yeah, I agree with all that. And Kentucky needs shooters, and he brings that value. And to Drew's point, he played this process perfectly, being one of the last guys involved where somebody that has leftover money can give him that money. And didn't that reporter in Israel already call Kentucky desperate? So, I mean, they did, if the shoe fits.
Billy
Desperate university.
Matt Jones
Yeah, a very desperate university. I. I think for me, this is just Matt Jones talking. I think this is a huge.
Drew Franklin
It is hard for me to see Drew, the team that we have next year, being a real contender to matter without.
Matt Jones
One of two things happen.
Drew Franklin
Either Braden Hawthorne is really good and
Matt Jones
we just didn't know. Right?
Drew Franklin
So, like, he's a surprise, a surprise
Matt Jones
star, or you get Momcil of it.
Drew Franklin
I don't know about Braden Hawthorne, and we probably won't know until the season starts. So I'd love to have Momcilovich so that that's extra and to me, not
Matt Jones
what the season like, hinges on. Does that make sense?
Billy
Does we got a little bit of hope in Hawthorne and Williams having big years and, you know, the team they have now could go out and be good. We really don't know. But Pope needs a win over the summer. And I think if you get Mom Chillovich, you get people excited about the year. And I think if you don't get him, the mess we see on Twitter and a lot of criticism isn't going to die between now and November until they actually play the game. So I think from a PR standpoint, it's big just to keep people excited going into next year.
Drew Franklin
And you can have a reasonable starting
Matt Jones
lineup next year where you have two guys in your starting lineup. If you get Mom Chilvich that are projected first round picks, you know, I mean, that.
Drew Franklin
That, that's.
Matt Jones
That we didn't have that this year. Right.
Drew Franklin
We didn't have that the year before. Now, maybe those teams, I don't know how this one will match up, but we. We have not had teams where you looked at the starting lineup on day
Matt Jones
one, and you said there are two
Drew Franklin
guys on this team that are projected
Matt Jones
in the first round.
Drew Franklin
You could have that if you get him. So I think that in and of
Matt Jones
itself makes it exciting.
Drew Franklin
Now, the second thing is you said
Matt Jones
he needs a win this summer, Drew.
Drew Franklin
I thought one of the wins this summer was going to be playing summer basketball. But Mark Pope did an interview with
Matt Jones
the Cats Paws, which I want to talk more about, because he has a lot of comments in it. But I think the news part is
Drew Franklin
he says in it that if. Because the trip to Israel is. Fall has fallen through that. He's not sure they're going to play summer games at all.
Matt Jones
If you remember, they've now changed the rules where you can play summer games every year. I. I don't want to overreact, but
Drew Franklin
isn't this a terrible decision, Drew, to have a chance to play games and just choose not to do it?
Billy
Yeah. I'm trying not to be critical of every move they make, but this is a huge letdown.
Drew Franklin
I don't.
Billy
There's no way to spend this. Like, Pope has said multiple times how excited he is for the summer trip, how important it was to his team. He can't wait to get the extra time in. I mean, he built it up himself going back to February when he first teased what they could be doing. And then, of course, it comes out, he's thinking about Jerusalem. And that was a little. Eh. But then you're like, okay, we'll regroup. Maybe Bahamas. You know, that's been a formula that's worked over and over, and to now be doing absolutely nothing, that is just a huge disappointment. I don't mean just for the people that would go and be at the pools. I mean, fans want something to watch it, just to watch it, be excited about. And he. He's the one that built it up. So a massive letdown, as I see it.
Drew Franklin
So I want to talk more about it after the break because I have a little bit of scuttlebutt, Billy, on this topic.
Lee K. Howard
Oh, you do?
Drew Franklin
That, I think, is worth discussing, but, I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world, but this is a bummer. And to me, yet another. I don't understand why we're doing it this way, especially when we have an option. So I want to talk about that option.
Matt Jones
And I just don't get this.
Drew Franklin
We'll take a break.
Matt Jones
Take your calls. 859-280-2287. KSR. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. Billy, these media people are calling, like, during the show and asking for a statement about the bar. Like, do they not know I'm on the air? Did we not just make a statement on the air?
Lee K. Howard
I just got a Herald Lexington Herald Leader report.
Drew Franklin
It's already out.
Lee K. Howard
Yeah, it's out there. Sending alerts.
Billy
Yeah. Getting emails.
Lee K. Howard
Yeah.
Matt Jones
They're sending emails.
Billy
Yeah. Subject why a popular Kentucky sports bar is closing. Dun dun.
Matt Jones
Oh, I just got that email. Well, maybe I should read since maybe I can learn why popular Kentucky Sports bar is closing.
Drew Franklin
Wow, they got that out quick. You got to give them Credit the Herald.
Billy
Janet Patton doesn't play around on the restaurant beat.
Drew Franklin
Why'd they have to use a picture of the restaurant where it's empty? Drew?
Billy
Yeah, what is it? I'm looking at it now. Did they take that this morning?
Drew Franklin
I mean, there are, you know, there
Matt Jones
are times where it's. You don't have to take that picture.
Billy
The poor guy sit at the bar by himself. Just calling him out.
Drew Franklin
He's on the email alert.
Matt Jones
It's not very nice. Oh, well, what are you going to do?
Billy
Someone asked if they can still the DraftKings helmets now, so that's still.
Matt Jones
No. They cannot steal the DraftKings helmets. They're going to stay there. Yes. And hopefully the wings will stay there. They're in.
Drew Franklin
The decor will be the same. Different, different.
Matt Jones
Everything else. One thing. One person writes.
Drew Franklin
Matt, whatever bar it looks like going
Matt Jones
forward, I need three things to stay in Ks bar history, the cheat lot, cheese logs, cold beer and Ryan Lemon. Well, I can't promise the cheese logs, although I'm gonna make that request. We will have beer and. And Ryan Lemon. Ryan Lemon is, you know, there's no way. You can't have Ryan Lemon involved. I don't know if I can put him up on the. I don't know if I can put him up on the bar again, but. But we'll see. One person writes. Matt, please stay open through the end of the month. I want to come by. Well, you. It's only.
Drew Franklin
It's May 27th, Billy.
Matt Jones
You got through the end of the month.
Drew Franklin
I mean, the next month. We felt like, to be honest with
Matt Jones
you, we felt like it was being Rail Bird. You know, our parking lot's right there, so we're going to sell parking. And then it's Tyler Childers playing that night.
Drew Franklin
I feel like he's a perfect soundtrack.
Matt Jones
Ryan Drew, you know, for.
Drew Franklin
Because honestly, he kind of got big
Matt Jones
right when we opened. If you remember, I came back that summer talking about him and then he, you know, he blew up. So he's had a great eight year run. It feels like a good time to go ahead and do it.
Billy
That's a great send off and one last plug if you're going to.
Matt Jones
I mean, he's not doing it for us, by the way. Just to be clear, he's not playing Rail Bird for. Okay. I'm just like, you know, I'm just saying from a poetic standpoint, what are
Billy
you gonna say if you are attending real burg? One last plug. It is a nice place because you can re enter to Go over, have a little AC, eat a meal that's not $50 and sit down for a bit. So maybe.
Matt Jones
Exactly. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
No, hopefully people can come by. All right.
Matt Jones
I want to talk, just say about this trip. Alright, so look, is it the biggest
Drew Franklin
thing in the world that they're not playing?
Matt Jones
No. Is it, is it worse? No.
Drew Franklin
I don't know what the NCAA rules now are about. Practice. You used to be able to get
Matt Jones
practice if you did the trip, not get practice if you don't.
Drew Franklin
I don't know if that's still the rule or not. Do you. Do any of you? Not either of you know, is that still the rule?
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Lee K. Howard
Lee K. Howard said on the pre show this morning. So.
Matt Jones
So they won't be able to do
Lee K. Howard
practice according to Lee K this morning.
Drew Franklin
Well, if Lee K's right and we're just.
Matt Jones
Lee K better be right, Billy.
Drew Franklin
If he's not right, oh boy.
Matt Jones
Then that's on you and Lee K.
Drew Franklin
But if Lee K's right, then all right. I mean, you got a brand new team. I feel like any practice would be helpful, but let's put that to the
Matt Jones
side in case that rule has changed.
Drew Franklin
I'm not commenting on the political nature of it, but just a practical standpoint. How did they think we were going
Matt Jones
to be able to go to Israel?
Drew Franklin
It's wild.
Billy
To me.
Drew Franklin
It is wild. How did they think that? I mean, I'm being dead serious. I'm not saying morally, I'm just saying from a practical standpoint. Mark Pope said in that interview we had planned in the last year to go and then the Iran stuff happened. The Iran stuff obviously adds to it, but it feels like it would have been dangerous to go last year, right, Drew? Or am I crazy?
Billy
Oh, definitely. And even that aside, like these trips usually, you know, there's a lot of downtime. Like what were we good at? What were fans going to do during the day?
Matt Jones
I mean, I guess fans weren't going to go.
Drew Franklin
I mean I can, I mean part,
Billy
I know it's about getting your team practice, but that's all. This is also a reward to a lot of the fans. I know not most can go, but some can. And I just, I tried to picture just big blue nation taking over.
Drew Franklin
I mean there would be the day if it was. Well, yeah, now to be fair, if
Matt Jones
it was not, you know, if it was not like tensions.
Drew Franklin
People go to Israel all the time
Matt Jones
for holy land reasons, you know. So like my parents have been to is like there are reasons to go To Israel.
Drew Franklin
I don't. I guess what I'm saying is I don't know why they would go now, and I don't know how they thought
Matt Jones
that was going to work.
Drew Franklin
Billy. I just. I like. To me, if I got.
Matt Jones
If I approached the administration a year ago about, let's go to Israel, I go.
Drew Franklin
Okay. Have you ever been watching the news? Like, I don't know.
Lee K. Howard
Well, hey, it's about team building and talk about getting a band of brothers together, like, going over to Israel and playing.
Drew Franklin
I don't want to leave that. No, no, it's not.
Matt Jones
No puns. Just you stop.
Drew Franklin
I. I don't. So. So there's that, secondly. And I. This is.
Matt Jones
I hesitate to say this because I'm not.
Drew Franklin
I'm not trying to.
Matt Jones
Like, I don't know what. I'm just gonna say it.
Drew Franklin
Drew.
Matt Jones
Okay. This is scuttle.
Billy
It's just us. Just me and you.
Drew Franklin
It's just us.
Matt Jones
Us talking.
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Yeah.
Drew Franklin
They have a deal for somewhere to go. I'm not trying to speak out of school, but I'm just telling you the truth. They have a deal. If they want to go to a
Matt Jones
trip that's close that fans could go
Drew Franklin
to, they have a deal to go. It's been in place since, like, January. We've known about it forever. I haven't talked about it because I haven't wanted to blow their stuff up, and I'm still not going to. But they can go. This idea that, like, they can't go because the Israel trip got canceled. They. They have a deal. They can go. It's. It's set up. They just have to say yes. And I've been told that they just won't say yes, that they.
Caller/Listener
That.
Drew Franklin
That. That they're just not. But there's been a deal in place since January for them to go to a place that is very easy to
Matt Jones
go to, where everyone could watch it
Drew Franklin
like, they have a deal. So, Drew, they're just choosing not to go. I think there's this, like, idea out there that they're scrambling to find a place. They have a place. They're just saying no. And I just don't understand that, Drew. What. What is the upside of not going? I get why they. Why they're not going to Israel, but what's the upside of not going to a place that is a short flight for everybody?
Billy
And we were just saying, talking about Momcilovich. They just need some PR wins this summer. Something to give the fans some. A reason to be happy and smile and excited. About basketball and like just, just go to a summer trip. I mean show off the team, the fans to get to go. It's a nice vacation. The ones who don't will love watching on tv. It is an easy off season win with your fan base. But it seems like it's another thing where it's like, oh well, fans will be all right. We're just going to do whatever we.
Drew Franklin
But if we don't go, we're just choosing not to. It's not like they don't have an ability. They have just want to be clear. They have a place to go.
Matt Jones
They're just choosing not to.
Drew Franklin
As of now, now I'm told that
Matt Jones
like the place where they were still thinks they might come.
Drew Franklin
So I don't know if like Pope
Matt Jones
was just saying that offhandedly and maybe they end up going.
Drew Franklin
I hope they do because I do agree. This is a chance, Billy, for a program that needs some off season W's to get it. And since we know so few of our players, I would really like to watch them this summer to get to know this group that we're going to
Matt Jones
have on the floor next year.
Lee K. Howard
Right.
Drew Franklin
It.
Lee K. Howard
Since it's such a new roster. If that practice scenario is right and you don't get extra practice time, I'm. I'm failing to find a reason why you wouldn't go on the trip. I mean it seems like it would be a natural no brainer off season win.
Billy
And not just the fans learning them. All the players don't know each other. I mean there's so many new pieces in this transfer portal era where you're starting all over. Why not pack everybody up on a plane and go take a vacation together?
Matt Jones
Yeah. Doesn't really make sense to me. But that's the way it goes. Who's up first? Rick.
Rick
Jerry is up first.
Matt Jones
Jerry. Rick.
Drew Franklin
First of all, there was somebody that
Matt Jones
wrote me on the text machine and they accused me. I want to read this real quick.
Drew Franklin
I want to know why Rick doesn't
Matt Jones
like me when he fills in.
Drew Franklin
I call and call. I called 30 times yesterday and he didn't answer. Does Rick have a name that comes up in the phone that he doesn't like? Rick, do you have an answer? Are you not. Do you not like someone that calls in?
Rick
I like everybody.
Drew Franklin
So this guy says he's calling and you don't answer.
Rick
Well, I'm calling everybody that calls in or I'm picking it up now. Yesterday we were having phone problems and we're still having phone problems. But we're trying to work the best I can.
Matt Jones
So you're saying it might not be you hating on somebody maybe the phone system is hating on.
Rick
That's correct. That's correct.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
All right.
Matt Jones
Because, Rick, I didn't think you were a hater.
Rick
No, I like everybody.
Matt Jones
That's what I assume. All right, go ahead. Who's up? Who's this?
Rick
Jerry's up next.
Matt Jones
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
Caller
I just.
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I see Pope getting a lot of slack for the JQ comment, missing the starting center, and I get it a little bit, but you just, you can't tell me there weren't other teams outside of Mark Pope in Kentucky that were in the JQ sweepstakes. He played January 20th. That's 60% of the season. You. You have a potential lottery pick. Starting center. If he goes to. If Tennessee took the risk and pays him, the fans are upset. If he, you know, if he does actually end up staying healthy and playing, then. And he's a stud, the fans are thrilled. It just seems like a lose, lose. I think any coach, especially if they think they have pieces around him, they take that risk 10 out of 10 times now.
Drew Franklin
The Rock, no problem.
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All the other stuff is, yeah, oh,
Drew Franklin
I got no problem with him taking
Matt Jones
the risk of jq. Just so you know. Okay. I got no problem with him taking the risk. My problem with it was you cannot plan on him being the starting center
Drew Franklin
because, you know, it's an injury risk
Matt Jones
and he may not play like.
Drew Franklin
So I'm totally fine with taking the risk, but understanding, like the Jalen Lowe injury. Bad luck, bad luck.
Matt Jones
No doubt about it.
Drew Franklin
But the quaintance injury was foreseeable, and I.
Matt Jones
So I.
Drew Franklin
You can't bank on your starting center
Matt Jones
being a guy who might not play.
Drew Franklin
If you're banking on him being a reserve, then I'm good with it. But if you're banking on him being
Matt Jones
the starting center, then in my opinion, you have to pick somebody who's not in the situation that that quaintance was in. I appreciate the call. 859280. I'm about to go to break here. 2287. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.
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Drew Franklin
Welcome back.
Matt Jones
It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Text machine is 772-774-5254. I love the people, Drew, who are riding on the announcement about KSBAR going. That's what happens when you talk liberal stuff. That was downfall.
Caller/Listener
Yes.
Matt Jones
Because I just started that, by the way, in the last year. Before that, I was pretty quiet, like nobody knew what I believed. So I also remind people I hosted a Matt Bevin rally at that bar.
Drew Franklin
I mean, I. Matt Jones personally didn't,
Matt Jones
but the Republican party rented it out and I rented it to him to
Drew Franklin
a lot of chagrin from people in my party. But I was like, look, it's a business.
Matt Jones
If they want to rent it out, I'm not gonna not do it. So, you know, just. Just leave with that.
Drew Franklin
Plus, why would you. I mean, it's.
Matt Jones
It's a sad day for us and the people, the people that work there. One person writes, matt, is it possible that the reason we're not going on the trip is to give the money to Momcilovich for nil?
Drew Franklin
I mean, that. I understand why people would make that
Matt Jones
connection because of the timing.
Drew Franklin
But the reality is, for the trip that they could go on, I think it would be paid for by the place where they're gonna go, because they do it in exchange for hoping Kentucky fans come. Like, I. I would be surprised if there are that many expenses for it at all.
Matt Jones
Now, if you were gonna go to Israel, that probably would be a very expensive trip. But it.
Drew Franklin
But the way a lot of these trips are is they get set up at some kind of resort or something. The resort either comps them or gives them a significantly reduced fee because they know their fans are going to come and fill the place up and pay for it.
Billy
So.
Matt Jones
So no, Drew, I don't think that those two things would be connected.
Billy
I don't think so either. Like you said, I mean, the. The traveling party you'd bring with you would cover the team costs. And then, you know, if you get on tv, that's even more money. I mean, there's. You get sponsors for these things. There's so many ways that I think it almost be free, if not profitable.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, you probably would be profitable for some of these. That's why all these teams go to these resorts and play. It's not that they all love the resorts. It's that that makes it to where it doesn't cost them Any money. Whereas if you were to go to
Matt Jones
Italy or go to Israel or go
Drew Franklin
to whatever, like, then you might have
Matt Jones
to pay a ton of expenses this
Drew Franklin
way that you don't have to do that.
Matt Jones
So, no, I don't think those two things, in my opinion, are connected with each other at all. 859-280-2287. I want to talk about Pope's comments because there are other things in that article that are worth noting. I'm gonna save it to the second hour. Who's up next? Case answers the phone. Rick, go ahead. Casey.
Rick
Casey.
R
Hey, fellas. Good morning. I just had to call in and give some love to everybody at KS Bar and Grill. Andy and I have spent. That's where we first met in September of 2021. Ryan introduced U.S. and became best friends. And so much that you guys do is so much more than a radio show. You all bring people together, and you all are awesome. And I just wanted to give you guys some thanks this morning, and I hope you all have a great week. Go, Cat.
Matt Jones
Thank you very much, Casey. And you two are two of the. You know, I appreciate the call. Like, most loyal supporters of that restaurant. And we know who those people are. Like, we know them by face, the people that are regulars. And I'm gonna miss missing them. Although, again, they'll be able to come on game days. And for you regulars, I'll. I'll pull whatever strings I have to make sure you still get your tables, etc. During those times. Who's next?
Rick
Noah is next.
Matt Jones
Noah. Go ahead, Noah.
Caller/Listener
Hey, Matt. Thank you guys for taking my call. I want to say I really started to hear about from KS Bar and Grill. It's been a real pleasure for the Times being able to come there, and I hope it's. If it's any part of any consolation, I hope, you know, at least that the name of Wings Day will still live on through one of your fans. So.
Drew Franklin
Okay, well, we do have Wednesday today and next Wednesday.
Matt Jones
You can still do it, but go ahead.
Caller/Listener
Yes, sir. Absolutely. This may be an absolute stretch, and I'm. I'm absolutely. I hate the idea for them canceling the trip, obviously, for the team, but this and this is really a big stretch. But I had an idea of wondering, like, do you think there may be a possibility that Mark Pope is planning for the summer potentially something of, like, some way around, maybe like a little bit of what. What you did with OBW from in the past of, like, going through, like, a Kentucky tour to certain.
Drew Franklin
See, they're not but they're not allowed to do that. I. I. Listen, I'd be for that.
Billy
Okay.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
I'd be for that. I appreciate the call. If. If they could do something where instead of. Instead of going on a tour, they went to, like, eight places in Kentucky and played, then sign me up, I'd
Matt Jones
say make Kentucky great again, no reason to go overseas. But that. I don't think they're allowed to do that. The rules say. I believe, Drew, that you could do one overseas tour, but not necessarily play in America, or else they would all just play in America. They're not allowed to do that.
Billy
Yeah, that's not an option. But, I mean, if it were like, a barn. Preseason barnstorming tour, crazy.
Matt Jones
It would be awesome.
Drew Franklin
But, yeah, they're not. If they were, I'd be the first
Matt Jones
one signing up saying, do that, but I don't think they're allowed to do that. Who's next?
Rick
Josh is next.
Matt Jones
Josh. Go ahead, Josh.
Caller
Hey, I don't know if y' all talked about the. The national anthem today, but I want to give some backstory on that. Okay, so we got some of it yesterday.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we got. We got that. Billy gave us all the story about it.
Caller
Yeah, the flat. The reason it's so important is the flag wouldn't fall. They had a bunch of people buried around the flag, holding it up so they wouldn't surrender, and that's what makes it so patriotic.
Drew Franklin
I understand.
Caller
I didn't know if y' all talked about that, so.
Drew Franklin
Remember, though, my. My. All I said was I preferred one
Matt Jones
song over the other. You know what I mean?
Drew Franklin
Like, I just prefer it. And for most of the hundred years before 1920 or whatever, everyone else preferred another song, too, and then everyone changed their mind. But it doesn't mean, like. Like, you can prefer one song over another, can't you?
Caller
You can, but I just feel like when you think about it in context of hundreds of bodies around a flag, holding it up not to surrender, it puts a pride in your chest where you don't want anything else.
Lee K. Howard
Amen.
Matt Jones
I understand. Well, I appreciate the call. All right, well, I'm not downplaying that. I'm just.
Drew Franklin
See, this. See, this is the problem.
Matt Jones
I was just said. I just thought it was a better song.
Drew Franklin
And you all. I mean, you. One of you said you thought another
Matt Jones
one of those songs was better.
Drew Franklin
We've had people call in here and say they want that Lee Greenwood song
Matt Jones
to be the national anthem.
Lee K. Howard
Well, that may be a step too far, but I'm sure you found yourself humming the national anthem when you get stepped on soil. After you left Canada, I'm sure your patriotic blood started to rise up a little bit. Yeah, maybe even America the beautiful.
Matt Jones
Well, I do like America.
Drew Franklin
And what's the other one? Is it what are in my country Tis of thee.
Matt Jones
Isn't that one Drew?
Lee K. Howard
Sweet land of liberty.
Billy
Is that what you were singing when you landed?
Drew Franklin
I did.
Matt Jones
I sang my country tis of the coming off the. Coming off the airplane. And that people looked at me like I was a little crazy.
Drew Franklin
But you know what? It doesn't matter, Billy, because that's pride.
Lee K. Howard
Can we do the Pledge of Allegiance at some point today? Because I feel like I did that a lot as a kid. Don't do it much.
Drew Franklin
We usually don't pledge on this show. I don't know if you listen, Billy. That usually is that.
Matt Jones
We do that in the third hour. So normally we don't get to that.
Drew Franklin
We'll take a break. Come back.
Matt Jones
Come right back.
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Date: May 27, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Billy, Lee K. Howard
In this emotionally-charged episode, Matt Jones returns from traveling to deliver major personal and sports news with fellow KSR hosts Drew Franklin, Billy, and Lee K. Howard. The crew begins by breaking the story of KSBar’s transition from a full-time, daily bar to a game-day experience, reflecting on the reasons behind the closure and sharing favorite memories. The discussion then pivots to Kentucky basketball, focusing on the high-stakes recruitment of Milan Momcilovich, Mark Pope’s decision not to play summer games, and the implications these decisions have on UK’s upcoming basketball season and fan engagement.
[02:31–16:06]
COVID-19 Impact & Market Challenges:
Economic Struggles:
Pride in the Run:
[19:10–25:57]
Momcilovich faces a midnight deadline to decide on the NBA draft.
Panel consensus: He’ll likely return to college due to higher NIL opportunities and an unfavorable draft projection.
Discussion about lifestyle differences between the NCAA and G League.
[25:57–36:26]
Matt reveals “scuttlebutt”: The team has a standing offer for a summer trip at an accessible location but is “just choosing not to go.”
General confusion over why the opportunity is being declined, especially when both players and fans would benefit.
[44:39–47:16]
The episode is honest, heartfelt, and conversational, mixing humor with genuine emotion. Through open discussion and jokes (“calories don’t count if the bar’s closing!”), the hosts balance the somber news of KSBar’s closure with lively debate about the potential of UK’s next basketball season, connecting deeply with fan concerns and perspective.
This episode is a must-listen for Kentucky fans seeking insight into both the business realities impacting their local sports bar and the evolving dynamics shaping their basketball program. The blend of personal storytelling, analysis, and inside info makes for a rich, relatable, and highly informative hour.