2026-06-23 - KSR - Hour 2

Summary

KSR - Hour 2 (June 23, 2026) – Kentucky Sports Radio with Matt Jones, Ryan Lemond & Shannon Dawson

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of the June 23, 2026, KSR episode covers a classic mix of Kentucky basketball and NBA draft talk, lighter stories from everyday life, and the show’s trademark blend of humor and local color. Matt Jones leads the discussion with regulars Ryan Lemond and Shannon Dawson. They debate the best approaches to “ignorance is bliss” in relationships, deep dive into NBA draft prospects with a sharp Kentucky focus, reminisce about Kentucky basketball greats, and share comic asides on recent news headlines and personal mishaps.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Relationships, Truth, and Ignorance (03:28–07:28)

• Matt and Ryan open with a philosophical riff about whether it’s better to know difficult truths in relationships or to just “move on and find happiness.”
• Matt asserts, “If it's over, just move on…if I'm happy now, why would I ruin my happiness for something that's not even happening?” (03:32)
• Ryan is less sure, arguing that deep hurt lingers: “Even if you're happy three years later, I don't know if you can ever get over that hurt.” (04:57)
• The hosts bring up the famous Charles Kuralt double-life story: two secret families who only learned about each other after his death, sparking a debate about whether not knowing would have been better. This segues into the line: “Very selfish of Charles Kuralt…wouldn’t it have been better for all of them if they hadn’t found out?” (05:48)

Notable Moment:
Matt’s advice to listeners: “If you’re driving down the road, you don’t have to look at each other at this moment… This is not the time for everybody to cleanse their soul.” (04:35–04:53)

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2. NBA Draft Preview - Kentucky Focus (07:28–13:39)

Top Picks Debate (07:28–08:57)

• The draft is front and center. Who should go #1?
  • Matt and Ryan debate between DeBonsa, Peterson, and Boozer.
  • Matt warns of Peterson’s “head case” reputation from Kansas: “Even if he might be better, don’t you take DeBonsa? Because he's not going to be a Buzz.” (07:42)
  • Boozer seen as “can’t-miss,” but perhaps not best player; high floor, maybe lower ceiling.

The Mikel Brown/Pat Kelsey Situation (08:57–10:23)

• Mikel Brown not inviting his college coach Pat Kelsey to NBA Draft night spurs gossip—hosts speculate on NIL money issues and conflicts: “I think there may be discrepancies in the, in the NIL money. And when the Brown family found out…” (09:54–10:05)

Darius Acuff and the “Calipari Guard Phenomenon” (10:46–12:34)

• Matt advocates: “If you have a Cal guard, I’m taking [him]… his guards in the NBA do not fail.” (10:53, 11:17)
• They run through the elite list of John Calipari’s guards who have thrived in the NBA.

Notable Quote
Matt: “[Calipari's] guards in the NBA do not fail. His big guys sometimes do, but his guards do not fail.” (10:53)

Mock Draft Critiques (12:55–14:14)

• Matt skeptical of drafting a “big 7-foot-3 dude at Michigan” high: “You’re going to have a hard time convincing me [he] needs to be a top 10.” (12:56)
• Discussion of players with “tough personalities” impacting draft stock, such as Axle.

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3. Kentucky’s Record—Most NBA First Round Picks (14:14–18:11)

• Caller brings up “March Madness” stat: UK holds record for most first-round NBA picks, but Duke poised to surpass them (14:17–16:03).
• Ryan and Matt reflect: “It’s fun to brag about, but it doesn’t really matter. I care a lot more about winning in Lexington… but it is fun to brag about.” (15:38)

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4. Personal / Local Stories & The Role of AI (16:14–18:44, 26:03–27:48)

AI in Radio

• Caller Shelby suggests using AI for generating daily show topics.
• Matt predicts, “The more human you are, the more… you want to be the one that's the most human.” (16:39–17:11)

Multi-Sport NCAA Champions

• Another caller notes how rare it is for a program to win national titles in both basketball and football; only a few have managed multiple titles in both. (17:17–18:11)

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5. Political Humor & ‘The Algae Pool’ Incident (22:14–29:34)

• Matt lampoons Trump’s “algae pool” story at the National Mall, joking about the “cartoon villain” who failed to fix it and Trump’s “Aquaman” theory. (25:03–28:17)
• Comic re-telling of Matt falling into the D.C. reflecting pool (“I just stepped into it…was on my phone…” [23:40–24:43]).

Notable Quotes
Matt: “That guy looks like a Dick Tracy villain. … If that guy came to my house and said he wanted to fix my pool, I’d say, no way, Jose.” (28:48)
Shannon: “He looks like if Paul Bearer was a gangster.” (25:34)

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6. NBA Trade Chatter – Tyler Herro & Julius Randle (30:31–33:35)

• Tyler Herro: Discuss how Herro’s dream of returning to Milwaukee might be short-lived since “they say this morning they’re going to get rid of him.” (30:49)
• Julius Randle: Matt’s case for Randle as “the most underappreciated Cat,” citing his double-double records and leading a thin Kentucky team to the title game. (31:46–32:43)
  • The trade: “Him and the 28th pick for the 33rd pick… That's just a dump. Come take this contract.” (32:43–33:23)

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7. Handling Rival Media & KSR Haters (34:42–36:51)

• Caller asks about “outlandish allegations” made against KSR.
• Matt: “They want attention…best way to deal with those people is don't give them attention.” (35:11–35:25)
• The crew mostly feigns ignorance of critics.

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8. Weird Local News (36:51–40:09)

• Listener shares the “definitely not drugs” bag story: couple in London, KY, arrested with a bag labeled "definitely not drugs" (37:19–39:56)
• The hosts riff on this and a case where kosher salt was sold as meth in Fort Wayne.

Notable Exchange
Matt: “You're saying in London, Kentucky, they got arrested for having drugs in a bag that said this is not drugs?” (37:25)
Ryan: "Definitely not. A bag full of drugs was written on the bag..." (37:59)

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9. Kentucky Greats—Julius Randle & Brandon Knight (43:52–46:58)

• A fan asks where Julius Randle ranks among Calipari-era Wildcats.
• Matt and Ryan debate: Anthony Davis, John Wall, Oscar, Ulis, Willie Cauley-Stein, Brandon Knight, and Randle's “next tier” status.
• Discussion of branding (Brandon Knight now remembered mostly for being “a meme” due to a viral dunk, which Matt and Ryan think is unfair).

Notable Quote:
Matt: “[Randle] was a double-double machine. Drug that team to the championship game; for whatever reason, didn't play well in the championship game. He has a good game, they're national champions probably that year.” (45:23–45:31)

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10. Ryan’s Return and Closing Banter (47:46–48:38)

• Ryan Lemond is back after a break, welcomed by the team.
• Ryan jokes about losing 30 lbs, then quickly regaining 10, mostly through “McDonald’s drinks every morning” and brownies from family. (48:02–48:18)
• Laughter about gaining weight and the joy of being back together.

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Notable Quotes & Comic Highlights

• “You don’t have to look at each other at this moment… This is not the time for everybody to cleanse their soul.” – Matt Jones (04:35)
• “If you have a Cal guard, I’m taking [him]. His guards in the NBA do not fail.” – Matt Jones (10:53)
• “That guy looks like a Dick Tracy villain… If that guy came to my house and said he wanted to fix my pool, I’d say, no way, Jose.” – Matt Jones (25:06, 28:48)
• “He looks like if Paul Bearer was a gangster.” – Shannon Dawson (25:34)
• “Definitely not. A bag full of drugs was written on the bag that had leafy material and crystal-like substances.” – Ryan Lemond (37:59)
• “Randle was a double-double machine. Drug that team to the championship game.” – Matt Jones (45:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic/Segment | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:28–07:28 | Relationships & Ignorance: Is it better not to know? | | 07:28–13:39 | NBA Draft talk: DeBonsa, Peterson, Boozer, Cal guards, and Brown/Kelsey dynamic | | 14:14–18:11 | UK's NBA 1st Round Pick record, possible Duke overtaking | | 16:14–18:44 | AI in radio and the uniqueness of being “human” | | 22:14–29:34 | Trump’s “algae pool” story, Matt’s reflecting pool mishap, comic villain pool guy | | 30:31–33:35 | NBA trades: Tyler Herro’s homecoming, Julius Randle’s value | | 34:42–36:51 | Handling KSR critics and rival media | | 36:51–40:09 | “Definitely not drugs” bag story and other odd news | | 43:52–46:58 | Kentucky greats: Julius Randle, Brandon Knight, historical rankings | | 47:46–48:38 | Ryan’s return, team banter, weight loss and reunification |

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Tone & Takeaways

• The show strikes a playful, loyal Kentucky-first tone.
• Discussions are informal, wisecracking, and occasionally philosophical.
• Listener interaction is lively, with callers prompting both debate and laughter.
• The segment about the “definitely not drugs” bag encapsulates their embrace of odd but local news, handled with classic dry wit.

For Kentucky fans or new listeners, this hour is a perfect snapshot of the show’s blend of basketball obsession, comic relief, and small-town community feeling.

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[Matt Jones]

There are people that agree with me on this, by the way.

[Ryan Lemond]

About what part?

[Matt Jones]

About that you just. If it's over, just move on. Like one person says, matt, if I'm happy now, why would I ruin my happiness now for something that's not even happening? I agree.

[Ryan Lemond]

Go find new happiness.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you get a certain age, maybe you're not, you know, we're not all spring chickens forever, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

You can find happiness anywhere.

[Matt Jones]

That's. Well, I agree. I mean, I'm by myself and I.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're a happy guy.

[Matt Jones]

I'm happy. One person writes, matt, you must never have been cheated on or you wouldn't feel that way. Oh, I've been cheated on. Come on, everybody's been cheated on. Right? Is no one else gonna speak but me?

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, I. Not that I know of, but probably, yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's the problem. We don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I feel like. Well, that's okay. There you go. You don't. I bet you almost everyone has. I'm not saying with your current person, I would never say that, but I'm saying at some point in your life. But, you know, I mean, there's a ton of couples out there that are listening right now that have gotten over it. Am I wrong?

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[Matt Jones]

I mean, they're probably surprised by the way, if you're driving down the road, you don't have to look at each other at this moment or you don't have to text your significant other. And America, this isn't a good time to go. I got something to tell you, honey. Like, don't get Me involved.

[Ryan Lemond]

I was listening to Ryan's return today and I've really decided I want to come clean.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Kentucky Sports Radio Announcer]

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[Matt Jones]

I feel this is not the time for everybody to cleanse their soul.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm just saying in this scenario, that's such a deep hurt. Even if you're happy three years later, I don't know if you can ever get over that hurt.

[Matt Jones]

All the more reason not to know. All those are reasons why you wouldn't want to know. You're right. So just don't tell you. And then you can die never knowing. What about Charles Karal's family? Remember that story?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Charles Coralt. I thought this was Charles Kuralt had two lives.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

This man had a wife and kids in two different parts of the country that did not know about each other.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

He somehow for 40 years this story is the most fat. Read it if you've never read it. He had a wife and kids in D.C. and one in Montana.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't even know how you pull that off.

[Shannon Dawson]

That would get confusing when you had to file taxes too.

[Ryan Lemond]

For that long.

[Matt Jones]

For that long. And none of them knew about each other until he died. And then they found out about each other because of the funeral and the estate. And then they were devastated. So first of all, very selfish of Charles Corral because like he left all these people devastated after he died and didn't have to deal with it. So he. That was very selfish of him. But wouldn't it have been better for all of them if they hadn't found out? Wouldn't they have all been happier if they didn't know?

[Ryan Lemond]

See, I'd rather know. I'd rather know that.

[Matt Jones]

You'd rather know that you're now dead.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Husband.

[Ryan Lemond]

Absolutely know that. I was with a jerk.

[Matt Jones]

I bet you those families, if they were honest, wish they didn't know.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. Why is about half. Was half of my inheritance going to Montana?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'd rather know the person I was with.

[Matt Jones]

We've talked about it before on here. But if you've never read that story, it is bizarre. Bizarre story.

[Ryan Lemond]

And rush Probst from 2A days. The coach in Alabama. He did it to the opposite ends of the country. He did it a small town.

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[Matt Jones]

But one of them knew. One of them.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay. I didn't know that part.

[Matt Jones]

I can see how you can pull it off if one of them knows. In Karal's case, neither of them knew about the other one.

[Ryan Lemond]

Christmas has to be hard.

[Matt Jones]

That. How do you do that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know how he pulled that off for that long for 40 years.

Dad misses every other Christmas. What's going on?

[Matt Jones]

Explain why he's not in Montana. Because his permanent home was D.C. did he just be like, I'll come to

[Ryan Lemond]

Montana sometimes when my job allows it, we'll fly out there?

[Caller/Listener]

It's.

[Matt Jones]

It's. It's unbelievable. All right, the draft is tonight. Real quick, before we go the phones storylines, who would you take number one? DeBonsa.

[Ryan Lemond]

He seems to have, like, the most NBA athleticism and body type, but Peterson seems to be the most skilled. I'd lean Peterson, but I don't think you.

[Matt Jones]

I think you would lean Peterson.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think they're both going to be. They're both going to be.

[Matt Jones]

Peterson's a head case. I mean, it didn't work at Kansas at all. And then he was like, I took creatine. And then, like, cramping, cramp. Like, I think you. Even if he. Even if you're right, that he might be better, don't you take debons, because he's not going to be a Buzz.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think both are pretty close to sure things. I think they're both going to pan out.

I agree with you. The whole drama about Peterson at Kansas, though, I would almost shy away from that. That doesn't seem like that's a. That's a bad story.

[Matt Jones]

You don't want to be the guy, Shannon, who passes on DeBonson to take a headcut.

[Ryan Lemond]

You try.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, yeah. That's a big part of it. Is somebody that, you know this isn't going to be an issue in the locker room. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Matt Jones]

And now with Boozer, I don't think there's any way Boozer fails, but I also think it's unlikely he's the best player in the draft.

[Ryan Lemond]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

So do you want to take a guy that you know will not fail, or do you want to take a guy with the higher upside? I think that's what you're trying to decide with Boozer.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think exactly as it's wife. I'm a general manager.

I'm.

I'm taking Boozer debons. I'm passing on Peterson.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I could see you taking Boozer because you're just a dude who, like, wants a sure thing.

[Ryan Lemond]

Going to get it. Going to get it.

[Matt Jones]

And Caleb Wilson, everybody always says he's great. He had some great games, but then there'd be times he just disappeared in Carolina.

[Caller/Listener]

He.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, he's one. You're not a sure thing there, but he could also surprise you and be the best of the bunch because he's got some tools and some athleticism.

[Matt Jones]

The others don't have to be exciting because you really don't know exactly what's going to happen. And then you start at number five, and then there's like, seven guys who could go fifth. Mikel Brown seems to be rising up the draft boards. Does not invite Pat Kelsey to the draft.

[Ryan Lemond]

At the Telltale Sign.

[Matt Jones]

I heard a podcast yesterday say it's the first time they can ever remember a player not inviting the coach to the.

[Shannon Dawson]

Are they saying that there's not enough seats for him? Is that also. That's what he said.

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[Matt Jones]

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[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, let's just say that's true.

[Shannon Dawson]

Give him a booster.

[Matt Jones]

If you're not one of the nine people he can invite.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, it's kind of. I think we all know that back injury wasn't a back injury, too. That. That did not go well.

[Matt Jones]

I want to know what really happened there. I get text messages from my Louisville people and of, like, what they say it is, and it's all different stuff, so it can't all be true, but it's some pretty crazy stuff.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's gotta be a little.

[Matt Jones]

Well, do you. I don't want you to say it unless you think it's actually right. I don't want to just throw rumors.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, I think there was some. Some conflict in what he was making. And then Conwell in the backcourt. I think there may be discrepancies in the. In the nil money. And when the Brown family found out there.

[Matt Jones]

I'd really like to know because it seems like Brown wants nothing to do with Kelsey. Kelsey tries to play the high road, which I would, too, if I were him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he danced around it in his comments.

[Matt Jones]

But if you don't get invited, I

[Ryan Lemond]

mean, you have nine seats.

[Matt Jones]

Everyone gets invited.

[Ryan Lemond]

They can find a seat.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he could sit in the crowd. Sometimes they have recruits. Like, sometimes they got drafted, jump the fence.

[Ryan Lemond]

Or sometimes maybe they're not sitting with them, but they're at the party afterwards or they go make the trip with them.

[Matt Jones]

You know, they're just around a seat for Pac. I mean, he ain't that big.

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[Shannon Dawson]

Sit on his lap.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know, a booster seat.

[Matt Jones]

Find the seat for him.

[Ryan Lemond]

It just further confirms that they did not get along all year long.

[Matt Jones]

Am I crazy in saying I would take Darius Acuff High? I mean, I. Oh, no.

[Ryan Lemond]

To me, like, he's proven commodity.

[Matt Jones]

When I. When he was Good. He was better than every. Than almost anybody I saw. And cow guards don't fail in the NBA. I mean, for all of cows. For all of cows issues. His guards in the NBA do not fail. Now his big guys sometimes do, but his guards do not fail. I mean, the track record is unbelievable. So if he's out there saying, this is one of my three or four best guards, how are you not going to take it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, everyone's like projecting him to the Kings, which would be a terrible landing spot for him. But the Kings have drafted a lot of Cal guys and they know what they're doing.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, just. Just take a minute and think about Cows guards in the NBA. Okay. Derrick Rose, Tyreek Evans, John Wall, Darren Fox, Devin Booker, Tyrese Maxey, Tyler Hero.

[Ryan Lemond]

Shay.

[Matt Jones]

Shay. How did I go that far without Shea?

[Ryan Lemond]

Brandon Reed.

[Matt Jones]

So the only ones that you could say maybe didn't work out as well as you'd hope were Brandon Knight, which still surprises me.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And then Rob Dillingham really hasn't worked out yet, although he's only had two years.

[Ryan Lemond]

But there's even been some guys that didn't have high expectations that have outperformed Jason Wallace. He's one. I mean, quickly, quickly. Yeah, he's been much better than people thought he would be.

Tyler Hero. Kelvin Johnson.

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If I.

[Matt Jones]

Look, if I had a Cal guard, I'm taking.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

If he's. If he's good. And often they get drafted too low. Shea, Maxi Murray.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Jamal Murray.

[Matt Jones]

All these guys, they inevitably when they drop, they almost always do better than their position.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, I'm currently writing a blog post for KSR later where guys have outperformed and everyone picked in front of Booker except Carl Towns is out of the league because he was 13th. He was a lottery pick, but everyone in front of him is gone except Towns, who was number one.

[Matt Jones]

So, so I. To me, that's. Give me one guy in the draft. You think? There's just no way he's good. Can I give you mine?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You're going to have a hard time convincing me that big 7 foot 3 dude at Michigan needs to be a top 10. I mean, I could see him playing in the league, but I. How could you pick that guy in the top 10? Yeah, I mean, played like 20 minutes a game last year and the big lengthy guys haircut like Zach Eddie ended up being better than people. But he was big, he was strong. That guy's so skinny. I don'.

[Caller/Listener]

Know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, now, the quaintance we had the debate yesterday, he just keeps falling.

[Matt Jones]

He's like, that's crazy to me.

[Ryan Lemond]

That down to 30 in some of the mock drafts this morning.

[Matt Jones]

Picking in the 20s. You got to, you got to take a shot with him, right? If you're a good team.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's going to be on one of those teams that don't. They don't need him right now. They're going to just take a flyer. We're going to try to develop him in two years.

[Matt Jones]

Imagine looking at that guy who looks like I did when I was 15 years old and making that dude a

[Ryan Lemond]

top 10 pick ahead of some of

[Matt Jones]

the names some of these guys, like they haven't projected nine. Yeah, that's crazy to me.

[Ryan Lemond]

I need Axle before him.

[Matt Jones]

Although apparently people don't like him. Have you seen that? People say he has a, quote, a tough personality. Yeah, he won a national championship, so how tough can he be?

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, we got a little taste of. He does some like his interviews. He's not great with media. Like we know the 7 to 9 million Kentucky thing that he threw out there. Stuff like that is hurting him too, just the way he's been handling the media interviews.

[Matt Jones]

Andrew, go ahead, Andrew.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Real quick. Before I get to my two questions, I just wanted to. I'm a 911 operator down here in Texas and I recently just found out that my boss is a really big Kentucky basketball fan, which kind of caught me off guard a little bit to find someone that high up in the city government. Basketball fan. We're everywhere. But my first question is a basketball question. March Madness posted a graphic this morning saying that Kentucky has the most first round.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we're gonna get past this year. We're gonna get past. Well, we might not get.

[Caller/Listener]

That was my question. Do you think Duke, North Carolina would take our number one spot?

[Matt Jones]

We have 60 first round picks. Duke has 59. They're going to have two guys go, so they're going to get to 61. So we need Quaint to get picked in order to stay tied for first or we will lose the record. Appreciate the call Jordan for most first round picks tonight. That'll be sad because Boozer will go and then Isaiah Evans will probably go before Quaint. So they will say tonight at the draft Duke passes Kentucky and then we can come back and tie him if Quaintance gets picked up.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's one of those things though. If not this year, it's, it's coming, coming next year.

[Matt Jones]

Does that make you sad? Do you care about that.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, it's fun to brag about, but it doesn't really matter. I care a lot more about, you know, winning in Lexington and getting back to Final Fours than the NBA stuff, but it is fun to brag about. And it's. You know, I've been like most fans, a lot more interested in the NBA following all the guys we've had for so many years.

[Matt Jones]

Do you care about that, Ryan?

[Ryan Lemond]

I know we probably shouldn't, but I think most of our fan base does care about stuff like that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but it's going away. Yeah, I think that's. I mean, Duke's gonna have a ton

[Ryan Lemond]

and they're not slowing down.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, they're gonna have a ton. So it's kind of like the three

[Ryan Lemond]

point streak for me. It was fun to brag about, but once it ended, it was like, okay, well, still gotta win. Shelby.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Shelby.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning, guys. I'm calling from the beautiful downtown metropolis of Mumfordville, Kentucky. All right, Ryan, first of all, I'm glad you're back on the show, man. I've been keeping you in my prayers.

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[Caller/Listener]

My first thing is, I agree with Billy. Hey, it's 2026. If I owned a radio show, I would be using AI every night to have it give me daily radio subjects.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think that's enough things to talk about.

[Matt Jones]

I think what's going to happen in the AI world is the more human you are, Shannon, the more. Because everything's going to become so compute. Like last night when I was stuck in Newark, they don't have any gate agents anymore. You know how you used to be able to go walk up somewhere and say, well, you don't have that anymore. And I was thinking, man, if I could find one, how happy would that make me? One of these days, one of these airlines will be like, you know what would make us stand out? Having gate agents. Yeah, I think with radio shows, man, we, like, you want to be the one that's the most human.

[Shannon Dawson]

We are guaranteed human. That's.

[Matt Jones]

I'm human. But go ahead, sir.

[Caller/Listener]

Second thing is relating to the first question in the first hour about football and basketball. I would choose football. If you think about it, if Kentucky ever wins, when we win, I'll say that with Wilson. When we win a national title. How many programs in America have won multiple titles in basketball and won titles in football? Just think about the sec. Alabama, Tennessee. Yeah, well, Indiana. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But, yeah, Indiana.

[Caller/Listener]

Thanks for taking my call, guys.

[Matt Jones]

I mean. Yeah. How many have done that? Florida has won multiple titles in football. Indiana, Duke has not. North Carolina has not. Kansas is not. Michigan State is not. Michigan has, Yukon has not. Villanova has not. See, I mean there's not many schools. It's what Indiana, Michigan and Florida. Anybody else?

[Ryan Lemond]

Nobody's coming to mind.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's probably it. Who would have thought Indiana would be one of those?

[Ryan Lemond]

Gives us hope though.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

It's a great question, Shannon. Yeah, it's. Toby Keith was a philosopher.

[Shannon Dawson]

He really was.

[Matt Jones]

He said sometimes you have whiskey for your man, beer for your horse.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

You know, he had this song with Sting about divorce.

[Shannon Dawson]

They had Red solo cup. Very philosophical song that wasn't very.

[Matt Jones]

A little less talk, a lot more action. Yeah, it's very philosophical, but it's a good question. Turn it up. He's not saying that you're going to be true. He just doesn't want to know how it ends. What do you think?

[Ryan Lemond]

I think a lot of things in life. You can say that, but, man, when it comes to relationships like that, I don't know. That's. That's tough.

[Matt Jones]

Somebody writes on the text machine. Matt, if you had a employee that embezzled money from you years ago and you found out, you wouldn't want to fire him? Good question. My inclination is, yes, I would. But if you told me that I. You would like. I know for a fact they'll never do it again if they're the best employee I have, and I know they'll never do it again. If I could have it sworn. Not like I'm taking their word for it. You just like. Let's say I know you have a crystal ball. Travis Branham puts a crystal ball. I'm not trying to be. I'm not mean. I'm sorry. Travis Branham, then. I don't know. Maybe. It's hard to find good employees.

[Ryan Lemond]

Mario, this doesn't mean.

[Matt Jones]

So if you stole something from me a year ago, you need to go ahead and don't let me know.

[Shannon Dawson]

One would argue that's not a good employee. Embezzled money, you say it's hard to find good employees.

[Matt Jones]

That's a fair point. It's a fair point. One person writes. Matt, being a stinking lib, I thought you would have brought up the algae in the pool by now. And am I correct that you once fell into the reflecting pool?

[Shannon Dawson]

You sure did.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, you did walk right into it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I thought about that a lot since this has happened. Because, you know, the pool thing. I don't. If the pool had algae in it, they should clean it. Like, I don't know why everybody Got so mad that he wanted to clean the pool.

[Ryan Lemond]

He should take care of your pools.

Yes.

Seen as pulls.

[Matt Jones]

But it is funny that he screwed it up. And I love that he thinks somebody went underwater with 300ft and cut it with a knife and no one caught him.

[Shannon Dawson]

Aquaman.

[Matt Jones]

Come on, Aquaman. Like that's like he literally is like 300ft with a box cutter. Come on, dude. Like just give us like. It didn't work. Your repair didn't work. It's okay. But some people believe they are guarding. Well, some people will believe anything but they're now guarding that pool with national Guard.

[Ryan Lemond]

We can't have people swimming down there and and messing it up.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's good for you. You won't fall in it this time.

[Matt Jones]

That's what I was going to say. Why weren't they there when I fell in?

[Shannon Dawson]

Looking out for you, Matt. I mean you were all the way up to your knees.

[Ryan Lemond]

I was walking right next to you, remember?

[Shannon Dawson]

Right. It was kind of cool that it was kind of cold that night.

[Matt Jones]

I was on my phone.

[Ryan Lemond]

You were.

[Matt Jones]

And I just stepped into the.

[Ryan Lemond]

I was step for step with you, but I was on. And you walked right into it.

[Matt Jones]

I was right behind you under the current administrator. Would I have gone to prison? Maybe so.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Shannon Dawson]

Putting your algae in there. What are you doing?

[Ryan Lemond]

You need to recreate it.

[Matt Jones]

People think that's a joke, but I

[Ryan Lemond]

really did just walk straight.

[Matt Jones]

It's a little dark because they don't have a barrier. Right?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'll give you credit. It was a little dark. It was just been kicked off the Lincoln Monument.

[Matt Jones]

We were trying to film on the Lincoln Market Monument and they said no. Of course now they have UFC fights there. So. In motorcycles. It was pretty dark.

[Ryan Lemond]

Not so dark that you couldn't see the gigantic reflection.

And the water was completely calm. Like it looked like it was just a floor.

[Matt Jones]

The thing was, I thought it was the algae.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, that's what you thought.

See, if there had been algae there, you would have noticed that the pole was so calm.

[Matt Jones]

Shannon. I just remember laugh for a good 30 minutes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, it was great.

[Shannon Dawson]

Great content,

[Matt Jones]

right?

[Kentucky Sports Radio Announcer]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I almost lost my balance and fell.

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Oh my God.

[Shannon Dawson]

If you'd have fallen

[Ryan Lemond]

all the way under, would have thrown you a raft.

[Shannon Dawson]

That would have been drown in the reflection bowl.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think they'll catch whoever?

[Ryan Lemond]

I hope so.

[Matt Jones]

Who? The 300 foot box cutter.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean this is a threat to national security. I hope they're on it.

[Matt Jones]

You know he had a pool guy. Did you see the picture of the pool.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Oh, my goodness. That's a cartoon villain. I don't care how much you get mad at me for laughing at Trump. I need everyone to right now go look up the guy that Trump got to fix the pool. Just go look that guy up. That guy looks like a Dick Tracy villain. He's him.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, he does. He's got a cigar hanging out of his mouth

[Matt Jones]

and that mustache and that hairpiece. Like, that's not a real human being, is it, Shannon?

[Shannon Dawson]

I mean, I don't think he's AI. He kind of looks like Paul Bearer.

[Matt Jones]

He does look like. He looks like if Paul Bearer was a gangster.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, he does.

[Matt Jones]

The power of the earth, the power of the algae.

[Shannon Dawson]

No, keep going.

[Matt Jones]

I can fix the poor. The show is stupid. Austin. Go ahead, Austin.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Matt. Hey. I want to touch on one of the ideas that the caller mentioned. The radio show being more personal, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Saying AI can ruin it, Correct.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, that's what I said.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, have. I have a. I have a summer segment idea for you and hear me out. And it's perfect for the summer. Nothing else to talk about. List shows, submit, whether it's their shows, podcasts, or videos.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I've done.

[Caller/Listener]

You guys.

[Matt Jones]

I've done this.

[Caller/Listener]

You all grade them. You have.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, we did this one. Something. We had. We had a contest where you could. Where you could.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't know how I missed that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Where you could submit your show and we let the winner host. Yeah, I believe. And they did it. Pretty good job.

[Ryan Lemond]

They did.

[Matt Jones]

But, yeah, we did that. I'm not against that. I appreciate the call. I'll think about it. You know, there's so many more people now. Appreciate the call. There's so many more people that do that now. And a lot of the podcast. Shannon, I think it's hilarious to me, if you had a podcast and you did Kentucky Sports, why do you think your best chance of success is to take shots at ksr? Like, wouldn't you want. Like, we can give you a job.

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Right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Guest host, where I was summer.

[Shannon Dawson]

Maybe they think that you're gonna, like, respond to it.

[Matt Jones]

No, I'm not, but. But, yeah, I would consider doing that because I. I think it's fun to give people a chance. It's hard, though. To host a show for two hours can be difficult. Take a break. Be right back. Ksr. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney.

[Ryan Lemond]

Call tj.

[Matt Jones]

He'll make him pay.

[Shannon Dawson]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's mat.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back to Sports Radio I love this show because this is what happens. You can do 10 minutes on the Kentucky basketball schedule. Text machine four. Text five, talk about Paul Bearer 100.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, of course.

[Matt Jones]

Like, that's just. That's just how it is. And then people say, matt, you must have Trump derangement syndrome. Your life must be so miserable. No, it's funny. The idea that a man that. That our president gets up and says a person underwater used a box cutter and cut 350ft. That's hilarious. Who does he think it is? Aquaman? There's no cameras.

[Ryan Lemond]

The look of the guy they hired is funnier to me.

[Matt Jones]

And then the look of the guy hired. If you can't laugh at that, sir, because you're like America, then you. That's you. It is funny. That is the weirdest looking guy I've ever seen. If that guy came to my house and said he wanted to fix my pool, I'd say, no way, Jose. Would you put him in charge of anything? Look at that guy. If that guy came to you and said, hello, sir, can I come fix your pool, you'd be like, no. And then we put that guy in charge, and a week later, it was covered in algae. That's funny.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, it is.

[Matt Jones]

Come on. Am I wrong? No, not at all.

[Ryan Lemond]

And I also agree. Less sports, more laughing at cartoon villains.

[Matt Jones]

What is the job that guy could have where you would let him do it looking like that? With the cigar? He has to have the cigar in his mouth.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, that's a good one. I like that. Manage a strip club, probably about it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I could see him driving, like, a really old limo.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, he would be a good old, like, really dated.

[Ryan Lemond]

He did it for, like, 25, 50 an hour.

[Shannon Dawson]

He'd take you to the strip club.

[Matt Jones]

No, he would take people in their high school prom. Get in, kids. Yes.

[Shannon Dawson]

No smoking in the car, though.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's a new voice.

[Matt Jones]

I think you debuted over there.

[Ryan Lemond]

Usually lean Russian with your voices.

Yeah, the mukash voice.

[Matt Jones]

And now I'm half undertaker, half. Okay, what was it?

[Ryan Lemond]

What's Dr. Dave got for us next?

[Matt Jones]

Randall got traded yesterday, but that wasn't the big trade. Giannis got traded, so Giannis gets traded to Miami. And now Tyler, he hero, goes back to his Milwaukee Bucks, which seems great. He grew up a fan, and now they say this morning they're going to get rid of him, so.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, I didn't see that.

Yeah, I was happy. You got to go back home.

[Matt Jones]

I'm hoping they're getting rid of him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Maybe you can talk him into it.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Thought it was a homecoming.

That was a poorly kept secret back in. I think it was like January hero even posted to an Instagram slide. 1 he's in a Heat jersey 1 he's in Bucks when he's a little kid. His brother had put something on Instagram recently. I really wanted it for him to go back and play for his hometown.

[Matt Jones]

But you also got, I mean like he seems like a dude who enjoyed being in Miami and now he's like.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I think it might have been

[Matt Jones]

good for him going back to Milwaukee. Like I mean he clubs in Miami. What are the big clubs?

[Ryan Lemond]

I couldn't get in with the baby. I tried.

[Matt Jones]

I think one of them is called like 11.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Is that one?

[Ryan Lemond]

That's a Mario said so I don't

[Matt Jones]

think they have an 11 in Milwaukee but. And then Randall. Poor Julius Randall. I to me Julius Randall is so disrespected. Can I just make the Julius Randall

[Ryan Lemond]

case go for it?

[Matt Jones]

Double, double. Second most all time in UK history. Best player on that team that went to the championship game drug him to the championship. He's called the Twins. But he's the best player. NBA made the all star team. Yeah, not a bad NBA player. But people I think because he played for the Lakers and the Knicks, two high profile teams, people just act like he's terrible and he's not terrible.

[Ryan Lemond]

He also went to the Knicks when no one wanted to go there and kind of help turn him around.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I mean he got a shout out from the mayor in the speech where they were doing all the great Knicks. They mentioned him. He got traded yesterday. I mean do you see the trade him and the 28th pick for the 33rd pick. Shane, let me read that to you again. Yeah, him and the 28th pick for the 33rd pick.

[Ryan Lemond]

Doesn't seem to add up.

[Matt Jones]

They had to agree to move down or they had to agree to move up or wait a minute. To get them to take Rainbow, they had to give them a first round pick.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah. For a second round it's got to

[Matt Jones]

be an E. For a second round it's got to be an ego hit. And you're going back to New York after they won the title to play on the little brother team.

[Ryan Lemond]

Now I know his family loves New York so I think even his wife was posting about how they're excited to get back. So I'm at least happy for them with that. But with everything going on, the Knicks, a team he was just on, he's going to have to be across Town on the nets.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean they just don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's not even trade. That's just a dump. Come, come take this contract.

[Matt Jones]

Take this away from us, please. So that I felt bad for him.

[Caller/Listener]

That.

[Matt Jones]

That. Because that's. That that stinks.

[Ryan Lemond]

He still got some good years left, man.

[Matt Jones]

And they act like he's bad. He's not bad.

[Shannon Dawson]

No.

[Matt Jones]

But now he's looks like when they

[Ryan Lemond]

had the Cat Randall trade looks like the Knicks Cat 1 on that end a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

Go ahead, Tim.

[Caller/Listener]

If Julius is your third best player on a team, your team is really good.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's probably right. I think you can let me.

[iHeartRadio Announcer]

Good.

[Matt Jones]

If there's. If he's the second. But he can't be the first for sure and probably shouldn't be this. Because I think that. I think that's fair.

[Caller/Listener]

He put up 22 a game and he's utilitarian at his size. So he can fit literally on any team. But that's not my comment, Matt. Here's what we're talking about. There's another show that's on at 3 o' clock and I don't really like the guy, but I listen to him when I'm on the driving range and he makes some outlandish allegations against ksr. That article that was written a few months ago and your relationship with that and it's. It's not damaging because it's talk radio, but I think a lot of your listeners, especially those that listen to both shows would just like some clarification on that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I assume you're talking about that guy in Louisville. I. Yeah, its name is like.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, let's not give him any more.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't have any. I don't know what he says. And I had nothing to do with that article beyond asking them to take some things out that would have been

[Caller/Listener]

even more negative, like this Conceica and Desist type stuff. And he screams it as if it's from the guy, you know, listen, all

[Matt Jones]

the folks like that and I appreciate the call. They want attention. And Shannon has been the best over the years at teaching me that the best way to deal with those people is don't give them attention.

[iHeartRadio Announcer]

Right.

[Shannon Dawson]

That's what they want.

[Matt Jones]

That's what they want.

[Shannon Dawson]

You feed into it when you do that.

[Matt Jones]

So it's not. I mean, I could say that there are people out there who want attention, who over the years have begged me to give them a platform. And when I don't, then they yell and say they want attention. I Could say that, but I'm not saying that. What I would say is, go do your thing, man. All shows. If you're good, you'll succeed. You don't need to worry about me. Right. If you're good. There's only been one big Kentucky show in the market for how many years? 15. There's room for a second one. Go be good.

[Ryan Lemond]

Especially in the afternoon.

[Matt Jones]

You don't need me. Go be good. If you're good, it'll work.

[Ryan Lemond]

I genuinely don't even know who we're talking about.

I don't even.

Trying to downplay no idea. I have no idea.

No clue.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't either.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm not trying.

[Shannon Dawson]

This show knows what we're talking about.

[Matt Jones]

Honestly, I have no idea who we're talking. You really?

[Ryan Lemond]

I really don't.

[Shannon Dawson]

I don't. I live in Louisville. I don't know.

[Ryan Lemond]

We started talking about. I'm like, who's he talking about? I have no idea what he's talking about.

I know a handful of people. They're not on at three or I'm on a three.

[Matt Jones]

This is what I love about you guys. Collectively oblivious. Two of you are completely oblivious. Shannon and Ryan. And Drew is not oblivious, but he also doesn't care.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I mean, I can name a few Lexington people that get their few digs in and it's whatever, but I honestly don't know who we're talking about in this scenario neither.

[Matt Jones]

Matthew. Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

Matthew. Hey, I just wanted your opinion on a couple of news headlines I saw. I think you'd appreciate one of them you might have already talked about. I just tuned in a little bit ago, but the first one is down in London. You hear about the couple that got arrested in the Walmart parking lot. Bag full of drugs. They had a bag full of drugs. And on the bag it said definitely not drugs.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on. You're making that up.

[Caller/Listener]

No problem. Look at that one in Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute.

[Ryan Lemond]

Look that.

[Caller/Listener]

Definitely not drugs.

[Matt Jones]

You're saying in London, Kentucky, they got elect. They got arrested for having drugs in a bag that said this is not drugs.

[Ryan Lemond]

Definitely not drugs.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. That happened.

[Caller/Listener]

Definitely not.

[Matt Jones]

Read the story, Drew, real quick. Hang on, sir.

[Ryan Lemond]

During a search of the vehicle, investigators reportedly discovered a black bag labeled definitely not a bag full of drugs which contained crystal like substances, a green leafy material, and multiple items of drug paraphernalia.

[Matt Jones]

And this was in London?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, this is from.

[Matt Jones]

And it said definitely not drugs.

[Ryan Lemond]

Definitely not. A bag full of drugs was written on the bag that had leafy Material and crystal like substances.

[Matt Jones]

You're right. I did like that story, sir. Right, what's your second one?

[Caller/Listener]

Similar. This one was in Fort Wayne. A guy got arrested for selling kosher salts to an undercover police officer claiming it was meth. And surely I'm selling what? They don't have a charge for that.

[Matt Jones]

Selling what?

[Caller/Listener]

He sold them kosher salts, but told

[Matt Jones]

the officer claiming it was met. Yeah, actually you could. I think you can get charged for that. For claiming it's not as serious a charge as if you were actually. But I think I could be wrong about this. But I do believe there's some kind of charge for like acting like you're selling drugs or something.

[Caller/Listener]

The language says selling a substance that is representative of another contraband.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I, I, I've heard of that.

[Caller/Listener]

I didn't know they were prepared for someone telling kosher stuff.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I appreciate the call. I am impressed with the. Definitely not a bad full of drugs. I feel like that bag answers the question.

[Ryan Lemond]

Let me see a picture of the bag.

[Matt Jones]

To be quite frank with you, I didn't even need to see that mug shot. I knew that's how they looked.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Why is it always there's not a

picture of the bag though? I need to see the bag.

[Matt Jones]

They should have led with the. What do you think it's written on? Like, is it marker?

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, you think it's. It's not like store bought at Spencer's Gifts. You think they made it at home?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you think it was like.

[Ryan Lemond]

I thought it might been like a. Well, who would sell that in hindsight? I said Spencer's Homemade.

[Matt Jones]

It was homemade.

[Ryan Lemond]

Had to be homemade.

I hope it was like a Kroger plastic bag with Sharpie on it.

[Matt Jones]

That is a good skit. Go London.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, I have a picture of the bag. Let me see the bag.

[Matt Jones]

Is it handmade?

[Ryan Lemond]

It is hand painted. Hold on. It's loading.

[Matt Jones]

It's actually pretty well done.

[Ryan Lemond]

Very well done.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

They have good penmanship.

[Matt Jones]

Better than I would have thought from that mug shot.

[Ryan Lemond]

Maybe it's not drugs.

[Matt Jones]

How are my shady rays? Basically the same quality.

[Ryan Lemond]

Definitely wrong.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, they did?

[iHeartRadio Announcer]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

How'd they spell?

[Ryan Lemond]

Definitely, definitely Def netly E F. It's got two Fs.

[Matt Jones]

Two Fs.

[Ryan Lemond]

Definitely.

[Matt Jones]

D E, F, F, N, T, L, E, Y. Yeah. Wow. I walked by a convenience store in, in New York. Shannon. That spelled convenience. C O V. C O N V E N A N, C E O.

[Shannon Dawson]

God, I'm not going.

[Matt Jones]

I think they just were like, well, we bought the sign.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Gotta run with it.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, less letters. Maybe use a little cheaper sign.

[Ryan Lemond]

Did you see the counterfeit Nick Skier that had Willie Cauley Stein as one

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[Matt Jones]

TY Sports Radio 859-280-2287. One person writes. Matt, I don't get mad that you make fun of Trap Trump. It's that you never made fun of Biden. I don't think that's totally true. But Trump is also objectively hilarious. I mean, he's the funniest president of all time, both unintentionally, most of the time, sometimes intentionally. But, like, Biden was boring.

[Ryan Lemond]

He was old. He was off a bike.

You made fun of him? Yeah, stuff like that.

[Matt Jones]

We made fun of him. Yeah, we made fun of him. But yeah, Trump's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Trump just makes it easy.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean, he said swam 350ft and cut a box. How can you not laugh at that? Like he's a cartoon. But he's also in charge.

[Ryan Lemond]

J voice One more time.

[Matt Jones]

Don't make me force it. And I'm not your. I'm not your clown.

[Ryan Lemond]

Make me a bicycle clown.

[Matt Jones]

One person writes Matt, I think Julius Randall is the most underappreciated cat. I know you've said that before about Brandon Knight, but Randall did take us to a championship game. If you were to rank Cal players. Where's Randall? Okay, so who's definitely ahead of Randall? Anthony Davis, John Wall. Who's definitely ahead of Oscar? Now we're at three.

[Ryan Lemond]

You have to start thinking about Randall right now. Got you do a championship game.

[Matt Jones]

I think you got to put Ulis and Willie ahead of him for awards reasons, just success. But like, you know, the next tier, which is going to be like Brandon Knight, Jamal Murray. Randall's definitely in that group. It's just a matter of where you want to put it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I pulled up the graphic where Mario had us give our top 15 recently and I had him at 10th.

[Matt Jones]

Who'd you have ahead of me?

[Ryan Lemond]

I was Davis, Wall, Ulyss, Oscar DeMarcus,

[Matt Jones]

Willie, Brandon Marcus ahead, Malik Monk, Willie ahead Malik Monk. That's close. But he's got like some slightly ahead.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's got some. Some scoring records. It's underappreciated and I remember being conflicted on this one. I put but Gilchrist ahead of Randall.

[Matt Jones]

But I could have easily gone ahead of Gilchrist and I love Gilchrist, but I think I would tenth because he's just a Rebounding machine.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like you said, it was second all time in double doubles.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, that spin move was brilliant. Second only because Oscar beat him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. At the time, he was number one.

[Matt Jones]

He's number one.

[Ryan Lemond]

He was a double double machine. Drug that team to the championship game, for whatever reason, didn't play well in the championship game. He has a good game. They're national champions probably that year.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, they might. That team might not have even made the tournament without rank. Remember the LSU game? He got that tip in. In Rupp Arena.

[Ryan Lemond]

The bully. They made a mural out of that in the Craft Center.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, they did.

[Matt Jones]

They did. So I do feel bad. I feel the same way, though, about Brandon Knight, because his NBA career is remembered for being dunked on. That's. That's all anybody ever remembers about him.

[Ryan Lemond]

He really is. He became a meme. He was one of the original NBA memes.

[Matt Jones]

He's a meme, and that stinks because he was great here.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Well, his numbers, I think, were even better than Wall. Wall was a better player.

[Matt Jones]

His numbers are better than Wall, but he wasn't like national player of the year like Wall, but his number. And he went farther in the tournament than Wall.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes, he did.

Yeah. Randall was unstoppable.

[Matt Jones]

And Wall had cousins in Patterson, and he had Jorts, Terrence Jones and Jordan.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

Randall also made the pass to Harrison to beat Louisville in the sweet 16 when he rarely passed back out. In that moment, he saw Aaron in the corner.

[Matt Jones]

Which play, which game was it where it looked like Dakari was going to have to take the shot?

[Ryan Lemond]

Wisconsin 1.

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What if Dakari had taken the win, the shot and he kind of fumbled it and then he ended up having to. Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Did you see Dakari courtside at the Knicks game? I did, as a random sighting. Good for Dakari.

[Matt Jones]

Kind of amazing that, like, courtside tickets were Chris Rock, Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller, Taylor Swift, and Dakari.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, Dakari. His mom sitting there.

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I loved it.

[Ryan Lemond]

I always liked Dakari.

[Matt Jones]

I did, too. But that's a pretty good car. Daqari was on the same row as Adam Sandler.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I thought he might have been, like, in the 15 to 20 range of rows if he were getting in there.

[Matt Jones]

Pretty impressive, actually.

[Ryan Lemond]

Very impressive.

I always wish he had stayed one more year. That next.

He should have.

[Matt Jones]

He's a perfect. He stays if you have nil.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

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[Ryan Lemond]

We're all back together. The gang is back together. Like putting on that old baseball glove, it just feels good.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, we were here. So does it feel good for you?

[Ryan Lemond]

Feels good for me. I'm putting on my old glove again. Just feels right.

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you look good.

[Ryan Lemond]

I appreciate it. It feels good to get back.

[Matt Jones]

How much weight did you lose?

[Ryan Lemond]

I lost like almost 30 pounds to start with. I've gained 10 of it back.

[Shannon Dawson]

Keep drinking those McDonald's drinks every morning.

[Matt Jones]

I'm looking at one right in front of him. You've already gained 10 of it back. You haven't been gone that long.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, but you know, Jennifer made some brownies and Gavin maybe got some cookies for Father's day.

[Matt Jones]

Put it on Jennifer or Gavin. You're sitting there drinking a pound of sugar right now. Now, the stories about how much these drinks have, they're like the crumble cookies has as many drinks have like the same amount of sugar as 19 Dunkin Donuts.

[Ryan Lemond]

I had some crumble cookies too.

[Shannon Dawson]

Yeah, there you go.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can't laugh. I'm up pretty big too.

[Matt Jones]

Well, don't keep those claw. Use those clothes while you can. Glad you're back.

[Ryan Lemond]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

We'll see you tomorrow. SM Kentucky Sports Radio.

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