2026-07-28- KSR - Hour 1

Summary

KSR Podcast Summary: July 28, 2026, Hour 1

Hosted by: Matt Jones
Regulars: Drew Franklin, Ryan Lemond, Shannon, Amanda
Episode Theme: UK Basketball’s New SEC Schedule, Home Game Concerns, Listener Stories, and Offbeat Kentucky Topics

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Overview

This episode dives right into the newly released SEC men’s basketball schedule for the University of Kentucky, debating its implications for the season’s trajectory and fan experience. The crew also explores related frustrations with lackluster non-conference home games, candidly discusses fan expectations, shares quirky personal anecdotes (including a brush with St. John’s analytics director), and responds to engaging listener calls. The tone is classic KSR: sharp, self-deprecating, packed with Kentucky flavor, and unafraid of some honest pessimism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Upcoming KSR Remote & Somerset Love

• [02:51–04:24]
  • Announcement: Friday’s show will be a remote broadcast from the "Home2 Suites" hotel in Somerset, KY.
  • Somerset is affectionately dubbed KSR’s “second home,” given the number of shows and events held there—“I think we've done more shows in Somerset than anywhere but Lexington…” (Matt)
  • Reflection on Hal Rogers, long-serving congressman from Somerset, now 89 and running for re-election:
    “Job not done.” (Ryan Lemond, 04:36)

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2. The ‘KSR Effect’ and Local Secrets Gone Public

• [04:34–06:10]
  • Discussion about accidentally causing local hot spots (McDonald's, Holiday Inn bathrooms) to go viral and get overcrowded after being mentioned on the show.
  • The downsides of “letting our secrets out” (Ryan, 05:32)
  • Comparison to Anthony Bourdain finding and ruining hidden gems on his travel shows.

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3. Basketball: UK’s SEC Schedule and Scheduling Patterns

• [07:02–17:23]
• The SEC schedule is “backloaded”—UK plays weaker conference teams early on, followed by a brutal finishing stretch against top SEC teams once college football ends.
• “You could make an argument those are five of the six worst teams in the SEC [in UK’s first six league games].” (Matt, 08:50)
• Critical games for Rupp Arena season ticket holders are few and mostly concentrated towards February and March.
• Insight: The schedule’s intent is to maximize UK’s presence on TV during the high-attention post-NFL period.

Notable Quote:

"You're going to have this long period of time [...] with really one good game [in Rupp], the Louisville game, and that's it." – Matt Jones, 12:19

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4. Why Non-Conference Home Schedules Stink

• [13:37–17:23]
  • UK having difficulty attracting marquee teams to play at Rupp due to the current economics: neutral-site games are much more lucrative, and non-conference home games usually feature lower-profile teams.
  • Even “big name” non-conference opponents like Kansas, UNC, and Indiana are not at historical strength.

Notable Quote:

“I don’t think you can fix it... the only answer if you want better home games is you’re just gonna have to play more SEC games.” – Matt Jones, 14:54

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5. Fan Experience as Season Ticket Holders

• [12:42–16:15]
  • The season ticket value is increasingly questioned, with most interesting home games packed into late February/March.
  • “If you're a season ticket holder kind of on the fence, see that schedule?” – Drew Franklin, 43:33

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6. Anecdotes: Analytics in the Wild

• [22:07–26:31]
• Matt recounts meeting the director of analytics for St. John’s basketball in a random Peruvian restaurant, discussing the ins and outs of analytical stats and how UK's team was perceived last year.
• Takeaway: Even outsiders found last year’s Kentucky team “a really oddly put together team.”

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7. Listener Calls: Local Pride and Quirks

• [26:37–40:01]
• Callers debate the reliability of Ashland-area McDonald’s ice cream machines, attributing it to local franchise pride and hands-on ownership.
• Extended discussion of small-town “coffee klatch” regulars at McDonald’s, with Ryan longing to join as a retiree:

  “Every morning just talking trash about whatever’s going on in the world.” – Ryan, 28:35

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8. Candid On-Air Doubts About Next Year’s Team

• [28:52–31:53]
• Honesty hour: Drew Franklin is openly skeptical about the depth and health of UK’s roster, worried there’s a chance “we have the season we had last year again.”
• Matt pushes the conversation, questioning whether fans (and the show) are honest or just projecting optimism.

Notable Quotes:

“I know Drew well enough… you are very skeptical.” – Matt, 29:45
“It’s just when he still hasn’t practiced this summer, and in his career has never played a full season. So that concerns me.” – Ryan, 31:34

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9. Non-Conference Home Schedule Disappointment

• [41:07–43:12]
  • Confirmation that the December 5th home game goes to Appalachian State—eliminating hope for a marquee non-conference home matchup.
  • The rest of the home schedule: “That’s awful. I mean, that really is awful. Those are eight bad games. James Madison's the best one besides Louisville.” – Matt, 42:18

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10. Lighthearted Segments and Kentucky Oddities

• [44:00–47:54]
• Listeners call to recommend musicals, prompting a debate about sung dialogue vs. plain speech.
• News: Joe Exotic is now in prison in Lexington, sparking plans for an on-air interview—pending bureaucratic hurdles and approval.

Notable Moments:

• Matt recounts nearly getting a job as a summer prison guard at the local federal facility:

  “Come be the warden. Here's your gun. Here's your taser. I filled out a whole test… and then they didn’t hire me, so I went to the dry cleaner.” (47:40)

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11. Tipping Complaints and Small Business Insights

• [35:17–38:37]
• Listeners vent about ubiquitous digital tipping prompts, especially in settings where customer interaction is minimal.
• KSR staff discuss changes after switching to digital tip machines at KS Bar—tips have become more “average,” with fewer extreme high or low tips.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On schedule:

  “If you want to contend, you might need to [go undefeated in January].” – Ryan, 09:35

• On the KSR influence:

  “The KSR effect when we let our secrets out.” – Ryan, 05:32

• On home schedules:

  “You are fighting for the entertainment dollar now… You got to convince them to spend it on you. And those are eight games that can be hard to convince people to see.” – Matt, 43:04

• On honesty in sports talk:

  “It’s a really tough spot when you are doing a show like this. Because people, Ryan, want you to be excited… And they want you to be optimistic.” – Matt, 29:38

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• 02:51 – 04:24: Somerset remote show announcement, Hal Rogers
• 07:02 – 17:23: In-depth breakdown of UK’s SEC basketball schedule
• 12:42 – 16:15: Discussion on value for Rupp Arena season ticket holders
• 13:37 – 17:23: Issues with non-conference home scheduling and neutral site trends
• 22:07 – 26:31: Matt’s meeting with St. John’s analytics director
• 28:52 – 31:53: Honest doubts about UK’s basketball depth & health
• 41:07 – 43:12: Confirmation of non-marquee December home game; full list of unimpressive home non-conference slate
• 44:00 – End: Joe Exotic in Lexington prison, attempts to secure radio interview

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Tone and Takeaway

Classic, candid KSR: Matt Jones keeps the discussion grounded and honest, balancing Kentucky basketball fandom with critical realism (“You are fighting for the entertainment dollar now”). The hosts riff on Kentucky quirks, local legends, and their ever-evolving relationship with UK athletics (sometimes cheerleaders, sometimes tough critics). Listener calls and real-world stories add a layer of local flavor and humor, reinforcing KSR’s community-first approach.

Bottom-line:
UK faces a favorable start and punishing finish to its SEC slate, non-conference home games leave a lot to be desired, and even the show’s regulars worry about depth. Off the court, Kentucky idiosyncrasies remain alive and well: crowded McDonalds, viral podcasts, $1.99 steaks at the Red Mile, and (maybe) an exclusive with Joe Exotic.

Transcript

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Comedy Off Broadway welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday, July 28th. I'm Matt Jones in the beautiful KSR Studios in Lexington. You can give a shout on the Clark's Pump and shop phone line 859-280-2287. They are open today, so go ahead and get in. I haven't talked to you all in two weeks. 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. And this is sponsored by the T.J. smith Law Office. You call T.J. he'll make them pay. Couple things. Friday, new remote just scheduled right. In Somerset at a hotel. Am I correct?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

What's the hotel?

[Drew Franklin]

Home suites.

[Ryan Lemond]

Home. Two suites.

[Drew Franklin]

Home two suites.

[Matt Jones]

Don't forget the two home number two suites.

[Drew Franklin]

Here we go.

[Matt Jones]

So Somerset Shout out, here we come. I think we've done more shows in Somerset than anywhere but Lexington last last couple of years. We've definitely doubled, but home. But I can't remember a time we've had a crowd show at a hotel in a long time. Home. Two sweets.

[Sam J.]

Two sweets.

[Matt Jones]

We it's going to be, it's going to be too sweet in Somerset on Friday. So this is a remote. This was originally Friday was supposed to be UK football media day. It got moved to Monday.

[Unidentified Caller/Guest]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

So we decided to do a remote on Friday in Somerset.

[Ryan Lemond]

You're right about going to Somerset the most. I feel like that's our most frequent. Heck, we just announced the Somerset golf scramble yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

Somerset golf scramble.

[Ryan Lemond]

Our second home.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Somerset. There we go. Hal Rogers. We've been there longer than him. I saw. He's 89 years old, by the way. 89 and running for reelection.

[Drew Franklin]

Boy, more power to you.

[Ryan Lemond]

Job not done.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think 45 years in office, I mean he's probably enough got a

[Drew Franklin]

parkway named after him.

[Matt Jones]

What more is he named himself? I mean, I could name myself a park. Well, I couldn't, but like you could. So there you go for Hal Rogers. Secondly, I. You know, we keep having this problem, Drew, where I say something that I like, and then long line today at the Winchester Road McDonald's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, our Elkhorn spots.

[Matt Jones]

I think maybe the secret got out.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, man.

[Matt Jones]

Am I just gonna have to stop? And I ended up honking at somebody.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, no. Yeah. That affects me. I freak with that location.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you don't.

[Amanda]

You.

[Matt Jones]

You got a hard time because you want to tell people about good things. But then now all of a sudden, then the woman said at the window, she goes, we've been so busy today. And I'm like, KSR effect when we

[Ryan Lemond]

let our secrets out.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Back in the day, you mentioned going to hotel bathrooms on road trips. Now anytime I stop, there's like, 10 people online.

[Matt Jones]

That, to me, was the best travel hack. I agree with you. Now you go to a holiday in bathroom, and it's lined up. But that was a great travel hack. I was. I'm not the only one over the years that has noticed that. But that was. That was awesome. You know, there was. Did you ever see. What was the name of the guy, the cook? Bourdain.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, Anthony Bourdain.

[Matt Jones]

He had a thing where he would go to foreign countries and he would find, like, some hole in the wall spot, put it on show, and then he would ruin. Oh, yeah, because then everybody would. Everybody would show up. There's a movie coming out about him. Did you see?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm a big fan. I've read two of his books.

[Matt Jones]

I've read. I've read his books, too.

[Drew Franklin]

So any.

[Matt Jones]

When's the last book you read, by the way?

[Drew Franklin]

Hey. Hey.

[Shannon]

What?

[Matt Jones]

Hey, Kentucky. That was a TV show. You were on that show.

[Drew Franklin]

Rich, please.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, that came out in 2020.

[Drew Franklin]

And cut to the chase.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Those are the last two books I've read.

[Matt Jones]

You only will read books by people you know.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. What was the. The one that Aaron Torres wrote?

[Matt Jones]

You bring that one up all the time. That was 21 in fun. One in fun. That was like a 2013.

[Ryan Lemond]

Ramon on the COVID of all the

[Matt Jones]

people from that team he had.

[Nick Turturro]

Ramon Harris.

[Matt Jones]

Ramon Harris.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm in the middle of my first John Grisham book, seeing what all the hype's about.

[Matt Jones]

Well, those are old, too. I mean, what are you.

[Ryan Lemond]

Pretty newer one.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, so you didn't do, like, the Firm?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'd seen the movies of the Firm, so. But, yeah, I had to see what all this hype about is this John Grisham guy Got to see what's going on.

[Matt Jones]

You should try a new guy that just came out recently, Bill Shakespeare. Homer. All kinds of hits. It's called the Widow. 859280, 2287. We are going to do something rare, which is. I'm actually going to start about basketball, which is not what we do in the summer, but I am, because the UK SEC schedule came out yesterday and we already knew who they were going to play. Now we just know the order. And it is clear to me in recent years that the SEC has made a move to where they are for Kentucky. And I don't really know if they're doing this for the other teams. I kind of think it's for Kentucky. They are backloading these schedules to where Kentucky plays all the bad teams early and then plays most of the good teams late, probably because I'm sure this is happening all across the sport. They're essentially saying people are not going to be paying attention to college basketball until the NFL ends, really until February. So we're putting all our good games in February.

[Drew Franklin]

It kind of leads into March.

[Matt Jones]

And also, it's not even. I think it's just that's when the nation's attention shifts to college basketball. So it puts pressure, I think, on Kentucky to get off to good starts in the sec. So like last year when we started poorly, we didn't think we'd make the tournament necessarily, and then we went on a little bit of a run. But all you got to do is look at the schedule this year. This is who we open up with at Oklahoma, Ole Miss, at Missouri, lsu, Vandy at home at Mississippi State.

[Drew Franklin]

You could really start out hot.

[Matt Jones]

You could make an argument those are five of the six worst teams in the sec.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

In our first six games. I mean, you could make a strong argument that if you're sitting there looking at our schedule, you would say, with the exception of South Carolina, who are the worst teams in the league. And we start with all of them.

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

So you could have a chance to go six and, oh, five and one to start the sec. Do you like that?

[Ryan Lemond]

I do, but you got to capitalize.

[Shannon]

You do.

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, I don't want to put too much on them, but you kind of need to start six and, oh, maybe you slip up one. But if you drop too many in that game, you head into the back end, which we'll get to. I mean, that's. Those are your. Those are your most winnable games right out of the gate.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, you've got to come out hot.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not crazy. You could go undefeated in January.

[Matt Jones]

You could.

[Ryan Lemond]

If you want to contend, you might need to.

[Matt Jones]

I think if you want to win the league, you do probably need to do that.

[Drew Franklin]

Wait, set up if. If Tennessee and Vanderbilt are maybe your two toughest games and they're both at rup.

[Matt Jones]

But just think about it like this. Here are your five Saturdays in February, March. These are the weekend games in February and March. Alabama at home at Tennessee, Arkansas at home, Auburn at home at Florida. There's your Saturday games.

[Drew Franklin]

That's tough.

[Matt Jones]

In February, March. They basically. And that is essentially. You could get those.

[Shannon]

Go.

[Matt Jones]

Those phone calls, Rick. That is essentially UK being a prime Saturday every week on espn. And that's the way it's going to be set up.

[Ryan Lemond]

Last year I guess you needed the Malachi.

[Matt Jones]

Sorry, the week before that at Texas.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, last year they needed the Malachi, you know, famous play. To not be one in three to start conference, conference play. If you start anything like that, you're in big trouble.

[Matt Jones]

But just like last year, we played all the bad teams. So I think this is. My point is this is clearly a pattern.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not an accident.

[Matt Jones]

This is what we're going to be dealing with probably going forward, which is. You just have to assume. So you get January to get your engine revved, but then you better Ryan have it rift.

[Drew Franklin]

If you were Pope, you almost want it this way. Right. Kind of find your footing early. You kind of get. Play your best basketball at the end of the season, going into March.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's a lot of pressure to do it right away. I might rather just be kind of more balanced instead of one or the other, but it's better than the alternative of playing the hard games first.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm kind of with you because you don't. I mean, you have a shot to go into the NCAA Tournament. You might even be playing well and losing three or five just because of the way your schedule is. Luckily, they don't do that thing anymore in the tournament where it's like the last 10 games.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. No recency.

[Matt Jones]

They claim that that doesn't have anything to do with it. But then just kind of big picture on the schedule. You're going to have this long period of time. So, like, let's just look at the Rupp arena schedule. So when are the good games in Rupp Arena? All right. Do we have any home games? Louisville in December. When do we play Louisville?

[Ryan Lemond]

The 12th.

[Matt Jones]

December 12th. So one good home game in December. Here are your home games in January. Ole Miss, lsu Vanderbilt, Tennessee. So you're going to have essentially there's not going to be there. You're going to play Louisville in Tennessee. But besides that, you don't really start having good home games until February and

[Drew Franklin]

then they're just Murderers Row there for a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

And then you get Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Texas A and M. But it's interesting if you're a home season ticket holder. Tennessee, you played January 23rd. You will go from the start of November to January 23rd with really one good game, the Louisville game, and that's it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, this is. Ryan always beats this drum, but this year I think he's, he's spot on about the home schedule and fans not getting many good games. There's marquee games in the non conference, but only the one at home. Otherwise it's Bryant and James Madison and Manhattan.

[Matt Jones]

Now you get a good, great, you get a great run. If you're a home season ticket holder the last four weeks of the season, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

You got a whole percent.

[Matt Jones]

I do wonder, yeah, I do wonder like how if you're uk, do you make sure in November, December and January you have good home courts? Remember last year we lost to Missouri at home in part because the gym was sleepy. You know, when you play ole Ms. And LSU and Vandy in January, you got to make sure there's a crowd. And I just think it's going to be hard to get momentum in Rupp arena because we're not playing anybody until January 23rd.

[Drew Franklin]

Preaching to the choir here. That's why, like they need to have more of those games in December. Just schedule a couple of those Saturday praying primetime games at Rupp Arena.

[Matt Jones]

Now, John Cal Peri says, by the way, I don't believe him, but he does say we tried to call 300 teams to get them to come and play a home game at Arkansas.

[Ryan Lemond]

Nobody would.

[Matt Jones]

Now I'll remind you, this is the same coach who said home games were worthless when he was here. But I do wonder if in today's NIL era it is hard to get teams to come into your gym.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's been other schools say, not just Cal, that said, they've had trouble scheduling games like that.

[Matt Jones]

It is, I think, very hard because when you, let's just say Kentucky wanted to play UConn. Okay, Kentucky and UConn can agree to play two different ways. You could either have two games on neutral courts, sell 20,000 seats, split the revenue in half and they get to sell it to a TV network or you get to play one game at home. Where you keep the revenue and UConn gets to play one game at home where they keep the revenue. The reality is there's more money in playing twice on a neutral court. And I think for Both Kentucky and UConn, if they were going to start a series, it just makes more sense for them to go play on two neutral courts. And I just think we're on. That's what we're going to see going forward.

[Drew Franklin]

So how do they fix it then?

[Matt Jones]

I don't think you can fix it. I think the incentive structure is on these schools to go play neutral court games. It's not just even about the tournament. You know, there's such a push to get money that I'm not sure they can do anything but this. And I think really the only answer if you want better home games is you're just going to have to play more SEC games. How many SEC games do we play? We play 18. Probably have to play 20 or 22 and then you'll get better or otherwise you're just going to be playing Coppin State.

[Ryan Lemond]

And as we saw with Duke, when you get out of your own gym, you're not tied to your rights and you can go sell to Amazon and get whatever you want, Right?

[Matt Jones]

So Duke's a perfect example. Duke could have played Michigan and now that game got postponed. Now they're playing Texas Tech. But let's just say you're playing Duke and Texas Tech. They could go play in Cameron and go play at Texas Tech and only get so much money. Or they could and they have to put the game on espn. Or they can go play on a neutral court and go sign with Amazon and get $5 million. They're going to go sign with Amazon. I mean, that's just going to be what they're going to do.

[Drew Franklin]

So if they expand the sec, you can start playing those games in December, then.

[Matt Jones]

I think you'd have to.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So anyway, I think if you're just looking at how the schedule sets up to win, it gives a Kentucky a Runway to get good.

[Ryan Lemond]

You can find yourself in the top 10 if you have a good one

[Matt Jones]

there you really could like. Because our non conference schedule, we've talked about this, it's good, but it's not as good as it usually is. I mean, the names are good, but the teams aren't as good. Louis, the only top 10 team we're playing this year in the non conference,

[Ryan Lemond]

Kansas and North Carolina aren't where they traditionally.

[Matt Jones]

They're not where they usually are. And Indiana is not usually where they where they've been years ago. So you actually have a non conference schedule where the names look good. But Ryan, the teams are not as good as they usually are.

[Drew Franklin]

Like you mentioned Kansas, North Carolina, Kansas. We had a recruiting battle with with

[Matt Jones]

Stokes, Kenny, but but they may not be good.

[Drew Franklin]

And then North Carolina did what a lot of fans here wanted to do,

[Matt Jones]

get rid of their and then Virginia, Virginia, who's good but not like not great.

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Ryan Lemond]

So that place will be on fire.

[Matt Jones]

Kentucky has a chance to have a really good record starting February, which is awesome. But they better be careful because if their records not good, it's like the Reds this year. The back end is brutal.

[Ryan Lemond]

You don't want to limp into that back end.

[Matt Jones]

No, you don't. 859-280-2287. The text machine is 772-774-5254. We will take a break. Take your calls. Khalil Whitney comes in at 11:30. I'm excited about that. I don't think he's ever been on here, has he?

[Drew Franklin]

He was on last summer when you were gone.

[Matt Jones]

Well, he hasn't been on here with me, so I'm excited to talk to him. We'll be right back. Ksr.

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[Gary Valenciano]

We've all been there. We've had seasons that have shaken everything. The question is, what remains when the shaking stops? Hi, I'm Gary Valenciano and on my podcast Unshaken with Gary Vee, I sit down with amazing personalities and we talk about the seasons that nearly broke them, the lows that carried them to their highs. Listen to Unshaken with Gary Vee on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Paul Verze]

Hey, guys, Paul Verze here, and I want to talk to you about Paul's best podcast, Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio. I sit down each week with a special guest, and we discuss the absolute best of things. Pete Davidson.

[Matt Jones]

It's that and then there's everything else.

[Paul Verze]

He would just shout one line.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it would murder Marie one.

[Paul Verze]

Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude. Joker, get last row, middle seat on a Southwest Airlines flight. Joe, how was your flight? It was great. The guy in Penn State, we were on the field and the player thought Joe is his former coach, and he hugged him, and he hugged him, and Joe just went with it. The guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes. And you walk in, and it is one bananas.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's like. It's not my thing either, but we're here.

[Paul Verze]

When in Rome, top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody listen to Paul's best podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sam J.]

What did black music, food and culture teach us about who we were becoming?

[Matt Jones]

2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consume things in community.

[Sam J.]

From Beyonce and Rihanna, everybody wanted to be Beyonce.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna.

[Sam J.]

To soul food, memory, identity, and the stories we carry through black culture.

[Kerry Brownstein]

What does it mean to be black

[Sam J.]

and eat in America? So we were this group of people

[Matt Jones]

who knew how to work the land,

[Sam J.]

who knew how to live with the land. We make it do what it do. Therapy for black girls is bringing together the conversation shaping black life right now. You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl, for being a black American girl ever. Therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Matt Jones]

Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. You did read a book, People remind me. I had you read the plot. Remember that?

[Drew Franklin]

It was really good.

[Matt Jones]

You really enjoyed it.

[Drew Franklin]

I really enjoyed it. I couldn't quit reading it.

[Matt Jones]

And now there's a that the sequel's out and it's called the Sequel.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why I asked you. So what's it called?

[Matt Jones]

The sequel.

[Drew Franklin]

The sequel.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna recommend another book to you. You Think you could read a book in the month of August if I gave you the whole month?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I'm gonna bring you a book tomorrow. I don't know what I'm gonna have to think about it because, you know, it has to be designed for your brain.

[Drew Franklin]

Right. You did a good job on the plot because that was.

[Matt Jones]

The plot was good.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, I've recommended that to a lot of people.

[Drew Franklin]

And I read Breaking Cardinal Rules.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's a good one. I have that on my desk.

[Matt Jones]

Katina Powell book.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

She signed it for you, didn't she?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know. Did she?

[Matt Jones]

I think. I think I got her to sign it for you.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you know, big time.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I have a couple of her autographs.

[Matt Jones]

You said Richie Farmer is a big John Grisham fan.

[Ryan Lemond]

Richie chimes in a lot. Loyal listener. And he's letting me know other Grisham readings I should get into before I

[Matt Jones]

go to the phones. One thing I forgot to tell you all. So last week, you know, I was. I was at espn. I had to drive back to New York City. Okay, that's like a two hour drive. But if the traffic's bad, it can be three, three and a half hours. Like, it can be really bad. So I was thinking to myself, okay, I don't want to drive into the city during rush hour, so I'm going to stop and eat somewhere outside of the city. Now, you and I drew. We watch your friends and neighbors, Right?

[Ryan Lemond]

Of course.

[Matt Jones]

John Ham.

[Ryan Lemond]

Great show.

[Matt Jones]

It's set in Westchester county, all right? And I was like, you know what? I want to go see where John Ham and James Marsden are breaking into these houses, right? And it's supposed to be like one of the richest places in America, but I didn't want to eat at a foo Foo place. So I look up Peruvian restaurant. Okay, so I'm in a. My point is I'm in a Peruvian restaurant in White Plains, New York. Walk in, there's only one other person there. I look, he's looking at his phone, and I can see over his shoulder. He's on Trilly Donovan's Twitter follows ball. So I'm like, this is a ball follower. This guy likes college basketball. But it's a little weird that I saw who he was looking at on Twitter. Then I come around to the front. He's wearing a St. John's basketball T shirt. So I'm like, all right, I gotta talk to him. I'm like, I don't mean to be interrupt, but I could see you were Looking at Trilly Donovan's Twitter account, and he was like, yeah. You a college basketball fan? I said, yeah. I go, what do you do? And he goes, I'm the director of analytics at St. John's basketball.

[Unidentified Caller/Guest]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

No kidding.

[Matt Jones]

He's the director of analytics. Then we look. He follows all of us.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, wow.

[Matt Jones]

He knows who we are. We talked about Rick, et cetera. I sat with him for like an hour in this Peruvian restaurant and just talked college basketball analytics.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Fascinating. Like, he told me the stuff he has come up with, like the analytics he's come up with. And we started talking and then Kentucky came up. Okay. And I said, wow. Okay. He goes, I gotta ask you a question. He looks at me, he said, you know, we played you last year. And he said, so I had to study your team because we were. We were playing you. Hopefully he wouldn't mind me saying this. Actually, it's just us.

[Drew Franklin]

It's just Drew and me and Mario in here.

[Matt Jones]

I'm telling stories. I don't know.

[Ryan Lemond]

As you get into it, it's very specific.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, like, it's.

[Ryan Lemond]

But then another person walked in.

[Matt Jones]

There was somebody completely different, joined the conversation. But he said to me, he goes, when I studied your team, he was like. We came into it, hearing what it was, such an analytical team. And he was like, but it really wasn't. And I went, well, yeah. He said, that was a really oddly put together team. And he said, you know, what do you think Mark Pope was thinking? And I said, I don't know. But it was interesting because it confirmed. And he said, of course you all played. The one good game you played that

[Ryan Lemond]

year was against us second half.

[Matt Jones]

But it was interesting to hear him say that. And I asked him what he thought of this year's team. And he said he hadn't looked at it yet, so he doesn't know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Did you get any Rick stories or any.

[Matt Jones]

We talked a little Rick.

[Ryan Lemond]

He really, like, he loves a random sighting.

[Matt Jones]

What a random. So we sat in the Peruvian restaurant in White Plains, New York, talking ball. Me and the St. John's director of analytics, we talked a lot about Kenny Klein because he had just been. He had just gone to the funeral in Louisville. So we talked a lot about him.

[Drew Franklin]

But anyway, had to be interesting to hear somebody from the other side talk about the analytics of our team.

[Matt Jones]

Dorky side of me was listening to him talk about, like, the stats He's. He said he has stats he's created that only St. John's uses. And he said, we license them to a couple of other teams. And it was interesting. He gave, he told. He sort of explained one of them.

[Ryan Lemond]

Because you want to move to license and work for us.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I, you know, wouldn't be the worst thing.

[Ryan Lemond]

Was he also doing the your friends and neighbors tour?

[Matt Jones]

No, he lives there.

[Ryan Lemond]

He lives there.

[Matt Jones]

He lives there. He was a former, like, hedge fund guy that retired and just decided rather than just live a life of luxury, he would go work at St. John's because that's fun.

[Ryan Lemond]

And retired.

[Matt Jones]

He met Rickino at a golf course, told him what he did, and Rick

[Drew Franklin]

just hired him as his analytics guy.

[Matt Jones]

As his analytics guy. Just kind of an interesting story. Jacob, go ahead. Jacob.

[Madison]

Hi, Good morning. Good morning, Random. But I just want to call to comment on yesterday's discussion of the most reliable McDonald's ice cream machines being an Ashland.

[Matt Jones]

So by the way we put that clip up, it went mega viral on. On Tik Tok. And there are people in Ashland who claim it's not as reliable as they. As they say. What do you say, being in Ashland?

[Shannon]

I don't live in Ashland.

[Madison]

I grew up there. My parents still live there. I would say. I've actually never had an issue with the McDonald's ice cream machines, but I do have 13 theory for why they may be better than okay, other parts of the country. Nearly all the McDonald's in the area are owned by the same individual who started like, start out, started out 50 years ago with one location and now own like 16 different places or 16 different McDowell's locations. But he still, you know, reported my parents, like, they run it because they go there for breakfast.

[Matt Jones]

So he's still like, randomly. Okay, I'm sorry. No, he still takes it seriously and cares.

[Madison]

He does. Like, he stops by, like, he'll like, randomly stop by to make sure that everything's clean and he'll like, check with the customers who are in the store. Like, if they're having a good experience, there's any issues. I would also argue that as a part of this, the excellent area probably has the cleanest McDonald's in the country. That.

[Matt Jones]

All right, well, I appreciate the call. So there you go. People who care about their. Their workplace end up having working ice. Ice cream machines.

[Ryan Lemond]

I like there's a few fast food places that will still have like, like an older gentleman leaned over cleaning all the tables and greeting you. It's few and far between. I think Chick fil a might people

[Matt Jones]

still do the coffee thing at McDonald's?

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yes, definitely.

[Mangisha]

All of.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yes.

[Matt Jones]

When you go indoors, there's like four

[Drew Franklin]

or five guy just sitting there. But that's still a thing.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that was the thing for a long time.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

I can't wait to do that. So excited.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, are you going to be that guy?

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, every morning just talking trash about whatever's going on in the world.

[Matt Jones]

I like that. Small towns are the best for that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I bet Somerset will have it on Friday. We'll take a break. 8592802287 is KSR. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. Can we be honest here for a second, Drew?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Trust tree.

[Madison]

You.

[Matt Jones]

You don't think we're going to be very good?

[Ryan Lemond]

I have.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, like, I think we need to. I heard during the break.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't run from it.

[Matt Jones]

I don't. I don't know how much. You just don't think we're going to be very good.

[Ryan Lemond]

No. I love the starting five. I'm very worried about everything behind that. Like, Cam Williams had another surgery and still not practicing when he's supposed to make a big jump.

[Matt Jones]

But you are genuinely like you. Do you think there's a world we have the season we had last year again?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, definitely. I don't think we're going to stink or anything, but I don't think we're going to reach the standard of Kentucky basketball. I'd love to be wrong. I mean, I'm going to be.

[Matt Jones]

Let's just assume you want to be wrong. You want to be wrong.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, but like, Frank hasn't practiced.

[Matt Jones]

It's a really tough spot when you are doing a show like this. Because people, Ryan, want you to be excited.

[Drew Franklin]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

And they want you to be optimistic. And for the most part, I haven't seen these guys play, so I'm remaining optimistic. But I can tell. I know Drew well enough to. This is Drew. This is Drew. You just. You are very skeptical.

[Ryan Lemond]

Again, one through five, I love. I love Wilkins. I think Wilkins is going to be awesome. Obviously, Milan's Milan. I think we're going to get the big jump from Malachi. I just want to look at that bench. That's where I get concerned. Like back court depth right now behind Malachi.

[Matt Jones]

Is that what worries me? We have nothing behind Malachi. Obviously, Frank, but he's not playing.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's never played a full season. Like, I just worry about the health of these guys that are going to need to step up and play big roles. I have no complaints, honestly, about one through five.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean, do you think fans are okay? Having the honest conversation that we might not be good or do you think they just want to assume we're good?

[Ryan Lemond]

Want to assume. There's a lot of hoping with this team. I've said that before. I mean if Cam Williams still makes a jump after his surgery, that's going to be huge. The whole year. That'll be huge.

[Matt Jones]

Is it fair to say that by what we're hearing from practice reports you can't put Braden Hawthorne in the. He's going to be a big time contributor.

[Ryan Lemond]

It seems that way. I never really thought that to begin with.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't either. But like you know, when you hear from the practice reports people, they're giving the scowl slow down and you need him.

[Ryan Lemond]

Williams to have a good.

[Matt Jones]

I mean that's, that's what people say now again, they could be wrong.

[Drew Franklin]

So then what about the reports we heard last year that he was often the best player in practice?

[Matt Jones]

I don't, I didn't hear those reports. You, I don't know who you were talking to. They may have been the same people saying Lamar Wilkerson was coming here. But like I don't. I never heard those reports. Did you?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, yeah.

[Sam J.]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Now I will say it not to be negative Nancy here. Frank plays the whole year. They'll be fine there. Frank's good. I like Frank a lot. It's just when he still hasn't practiced this summer and in his career has never played a full season. So that concerns me just stuff like that.

[Matt Jones]

Really?

[Shannon]

Really.

[Ryan Lemond]

The injury situation. I know it's only July, but at some point these guys need to get on the court and start ramping up for the season.

[Matt Jones]

Madison, go ahead. Madison.

[Madison]

Matt, how we doing?

[Matt Jones]

I'm good.

[Madison]

One thing question number one is I know we have not gotten a spread out for the Youngstown State game on September 5th.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But we don't have that yet. Probably won't. I don't know if we will have it because they usually don't do spreads against teams in the, in the division lower.

[Madison]

And then to what is Yalls? What game? What's. What other game on the non conference schedule do you think will be announced? Because I, I read one more game.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I mean you. We appreciate the call. We were looking at the calendar. It's gotta be December 5th because they don't have a game yet that dates open. It's open now. That's also the SEC championship and in football. And Drew always hates when we schedule a game like that. Yeah, but I think we're Going to play on December 5th, I assume. My guess is they're trying to book a marquee opponent on December 5th. They just haven't done it yet.

[Drew Franklin]

They're out looking to see what's the best name, sexiest name we could get to bring in a rubberina that day.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but you. Oh, you think it's for Rob.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it's for Rob.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that would be good. That would change the whole outlook of the. Not of the. For the season ticket holder if you got a big game on December 5th.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm hopeful that's the thought process.

[Matt Jones]

You're talking, talking like you know, son.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I don't. Honestly, I don't.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Madison]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think they want a good team on December 5th. If you look at Kentucky historically in the last five years they've tried to play six good teams in the non conference and right now they have Kansas, North Carolina, Indiana, Louisville and Virginia. That's five. So if you look at it historically there, they usually try to get one more.

[Drew Franklin]

It's got to be tough this time of year. All the other schedules are probably there.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean Arkansas like that would. Cal said we still have a game or two. I think there are teams that have.

[Shannon]

Have some.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know how many there are. I just saw, you know, the Duke, Michigan game just got canceled, so maybe, maybe you get to play Michigan, bring them in. Right. I don't know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Rob needs a game, as we said, to start the show. I usually, I think Ryan's a little harsh on the home schedule, but to only have Louisville and Tennessee all the way through almost starting in February is a problem.

[Matt Jones]

I'd be surprised if they don't get a good team in that game because again, they kind of have a thing. They've been doing this in that six. They will play six good non conference games. Right now we have five. So I think they need one more. Charlie, Go ahead. Charlie.

[Shannon]

Hey, Matt, how you doing?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good.

[Shannon]

So first of all, I went to a MC Tribe the other day and it was probably one of the best McDonald's I've had in a long time. So chill on the tripad. I think they're coming back.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, maybe. And I'm not saying it was me. Could have been you or Ryan or whatever. Maybe that was the incentive to fit up a little bit, I guess.

[Shannon]

But one more thing. I went to Shake Shack the other day and they have these screens everywhere now that you order yourself and it takes so much longer than just telling your order. And I finished doing My order. And it goes. Would you like to tip a team member? Who am I tipping? Me.

[Unidentified Caller/Guest]

I just did the whole job.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we got. Maybe they would say the people that. The people that make the.

[Shannon]

No, no, we gotta. No, no, we gotta stop in a rough arena. It's like I spent $30 for two beers and they want to make me pay a 20 tip. And they'll give you a dirty look

[Madison]

if you put zero.

[Shannon]

I would rather have no more tips on screens and keep the $12 beer.

[Matt Jones]

Let me ask you a question. Are you willing to. Are you willing to not tip but raise the minimum wage?

[Shannon]

Yes. Okay. I love dipping waiters and bartenders, but we gotta stop this screen thing, man.

[Matt Jones]

Appreciate the call.

[Shannon]

All right.

[Matt Jones]

That sounds like Shannon. He's here for Shannon today.

[Ryan Lemond]

There's a coffee place I go to. I won't name it, but they have really good coffee, but it's very expensive. It's like a $9 drink. And then they turn it around. It's like, do you want to tip? But then they just make the most awkward eye contact. I'm like, please don't look at me.

[Paul Verze]

I get it.

[Matt Jones]

Because they look right at you and it feels like, you know, they all carry on. I like the ones I will tip more if they look away. No, I'm serious. If they flip it around and then they look away and give me some privacy, I will reward them. If they stare me directly in the eye, then I'm like, yeah, they give

[Drew Franklin]

you their little calculator looking thing and just kind of stare at you while you're trying to punch in a tip.

[Ryan Lemond]

They give like puppy dog eyes and it's like, oh, I just watched you pour this coffee out of a.

[Matt Jones]

When we introduced the system at KS Bar, where we handed you the thing.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

We only did that in the last year. The servers told me that in their experience that handing someone a machine ended up giving them a slightly less money. They basically said it keeps people from stiffing you, but they usually don't go as high as sometimes. So you don't get the really low tips, but then you don't get the really high tips. Does that make sense?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

So when it says like 18, 20, 22.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Matt Jones]

No one gives more than 22. Whereas when you hand do it, sometimes people will be really generous, give you 25% or 30. But then you also don't get the people who do special. I'm only giving you 10. So they basically said it tends to even it out. So some of the servers liked it, but the ones who were really good and used to get big tips, they didn't like it because they thought made people less likely to give big tips.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's my other big complaint. And as a former server, I over tip. I think most former servers tip really well. I'd say 99% of them do. But I've been to places now where it's like, do you want to tip 22, 25 or 28? It was like, my goodness, when the

[Matt Jones]

minimum is 22, that's I think a little.

[Amanda]

That's wrong.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go to Amanda. Go ahead, Amanda.

[Amanda]

Hi, Amanda. Yeah, I'm Amanda. Sorry.

[Matt Jones]

It's okay.

[Amanda]

How are you?

[Ryan Lemond]

Good.

[Amanda]

Hi, I'm from the Red Mile. I actually work for the Red Mile. I heard your segment yesterday, so calling in about that. But on the tip thing, I really do think people tend to tip more if you are handwriting it rather than doing it on a machine. I know as a former server, I always try to tip as much as possible, but we see the same thing at Red Mile as well. A lot of people tend to not tip.

[Matt Jones]

Can we ride on one of the cars like Ryan did with our nose up against the horses?

[Amanda]

Yes. So we can actually do that. We do that a lot for a lot of newcomers. Some of our owners like to get in there, but we tried to make an experience for, you know, the guest. But yeah, we definitely would love to get you guys in there. We also had Hannah. We had Hannah Hamill back out from WLEX last week and had her out on the jog car, actually in a double seated jog cart behind the horse. So on the other side, like you were talking yesterday, you thought he was on the wrong side. No, we actually have both.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I mean, I'll let Hannah Hamill back do that. So, so, so yes, we would love to do that. You, you wrote, you wrote me and, and, and I, I would love to, to make that happen. So we, we will, we will get in contact and I, I appreciate you reaching out.

[Amanda]

Hey, no problem. I appreciate you guys actually talking about the Red Mile and letting people know that we are still there. And there are things going on there, you know, every weekend, so especially on Sundays. We're trying family aspect of environment, you know, even though we're attached to a casino, so.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I appreciate the call. We'll. We will ride on one of those. That would be fun.

[Ryan Lemond]

Sounds fun.

[Matt Jones]

It does sound fun.

[Ryan Lemond]

Don't Forget we got $1.99 steak night coming up too.

[Matt Jones]

That's crazy to me. 99 steak. I'm not. I'm not going and getting on Friday night I'll buy Big spender. Yeah a couple of them if you

[Drew Franklin]

want and tip 22%.

[Matt Jones]

That's one of. That's like Larry's joke. He would go to the dollar store and you can go would say to me you can have two of anything here. That's what you are with the stake. Central Kentucky has over 100 banks and credit unions who offer more than 200 checking accounts. Why can't banking just be simple? As the only credit union in Newsweek's best in states rankings, UK credit union believes in simple. And that means simple checking, easy pay, direct deposit, cash back on every debit card purchase and more simple checking from the official credit union, the University of Kentucky. Kentucky membership eligibility required. Insured by NCUA UK Credit union. We'll take a break. Be our back. Khalil Whitney 1130s KSR. Welcome back Techie Sports Radio. So apparently we've already scheduled a game for December 5th. You all were supposed to tell me that that happened last week.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Added app State powerhouse. I didn't know it was on that Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

That's my phone. Then never mind. Well, that's a terrible home skit.

[Drew Franklin]

It's awful.

[Matt Jones]

Read me that. Read me the non conference home games.

[Drew Franklin]

All right. Manhattan.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Madison]

Bobby James.

[Matt Jones]

Rick, Hang on. Are you there? Rick? Okay, first of all, Rick, you and I have to talk for a second. What? You. We hadn't even gone the phones and then of all these people on the line, you put on Bob in Jamestown. Rick, are you trying to prank me? No, never. Why did you put on Bob in Jamestown? I didn't call for him.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I hit the wrong button. We've got some problems with the phone system here today.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right, all right. Well then before we go, I'll go to set. Bob. Bob is not next. But go ahead, read me the home teams.

[Drew Franklin]

Manhattan.

[Matt Jones]

Boo.

[Drew Franklin]

James Madison.

[Matt Jones]

Boo.

[Drew Franklin]

Northern Arizona. Grambling State. Happy State. Bryant.

[Matt Jones]

Louisville Heating and air.

[Ryan Lemond]

Louisville Sacred Heart.

[Drew Franklin]

Not the Louisville High School. Gardner Webb.

[Matt Jones]

That's awful. I mean that really is awful. Those are eight bad games. James Madison's the best one besides.

[Drew Franklin]

Besides Louisville.

[Matt Jones]

Besides Louisville.

[Ryan Lemond]

McBride reunion game. Preston Spradlin.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but if you're a season ticket holder kind of on the fence. See that schedule?

[Matt Jones]

Well, Jay Bat's going to be here Thursday. We'll write that down as one of the things that about because I think it's fair. Look you. You are fighting for the entertainment dollar now. Yes, you are. You're fighting for the entertainment dollar. And you've got to convince people to spend. They can spend it on a lot of stuff. You got to convince them to spend it on you. And those are eight games that can be hard to convince people to see, to spend them on.

[Drew Franklin]

And they're talking a lot of money that you take out a family of four by the time you park and get concessions. That's a lot of money to invest to watch him play. Bryant.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Sacred Hearts gonna be tough this year.

[Matt Jones]

Sacred Heart. Noah. Go ahead, Noah.

[Shannon]

Hey, Matt.

[Unidentified Caller/Guest]

Thank you guys for taking my call. Appreciate it. You guys were talking about the Odyssey from yesterday, and I wanted to recommend something you guys, though honestly, it may only apply to Drew potentially, since I know he likes Hamilton a lot. In the past couple years there, There's. It's been going a bit low. Viral. There is an. A musical adaptation of the Odyssey called Epic the Musical. It's created by one guy who started out doing random auditions through TikTok, and then it just started blasting people's careers, like, out of nowhere. And it's kind of got its own, like, viral cult following. It's really fun. Just be able to recommend it to you guys.

[Matt Jones]

Epic the musical.

[Ryan Lemond]

Big musical guy.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, Big musical guy. I appreciate the call. No, I. I can't. I don't get it. It's like, why are you singing?

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, come on. Hamilton's Great Book of Mormon. I've seen that so many times.

[Matt Jones]

I do like the Book of Mormon, and Hamilton was fine, but. Yeah, but it's like, there is a part of me that's like, why don't just say the words?

[Ryan Lemond]

But it's the talent.

[Matt Jones]

I know, but, like, there's never been a conversation where I'm, like, walking down the street. Hello, Ryan. Well, hello, Ryan.

[Ryan Lemond]

Theodosia writes me a letter.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but just say it. Just say, you don't need to wrap it. Like, just, you know, it was a good performance.

[Ryan Lemond]

Go see Epic.

[Matt Jones]

We didn't get to talk about this. So Joe Exotic is now in prison in Lexington.

[Shannon]

Yes, he is.

[Matt Jones]

And he's here, right?

[Drew Franklin]

You're right. The one on down.

[Matt Jones]

How much prison time does he have left?

[Ryan Lemond]

He's got a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

20. He's not up to a pro to, like, 20. 30.

[Matt Jones]

It's amazing with all the freaks that Trump has pardoned that he hadn't gotten to him yet.

[Ryan Lemond]

There was a time when people thought he was going to get it. He was. He was trying to get it.

[Matt Jones]

So can you have, like, could we have him on the show? How does it work?

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't mentioned having a connection already,

[Drew Franklin]

so I reached out. We have to be on his approved call list.

[Matt Jones]

So he has to agree.

[Drew Franklin]

Correct.

[Matt Jones]

So how does one get in touch with him? Because how are you going to call him to see if he'll let you call him if you can't call him?

[Drew Franklin]

I'll reach back out to my guy out there. But he was going to try to talk to Joe to see if he would be interested in coming on the show with this.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you have a Joe exotic prison connection.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Is this someone else in prison?

[Drew Franklin]

No, he was a worker out there.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Ryan Lemond]

And we could bake him a cake with a note in it and slide it to him.

[Matt Jones]

So if he approves, it's going to approve call list and then we could just have him on?

[Drew Franklin]

Theoretically, yes.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean theoretically?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, he has to come to the call, but I mean, does the jail

[Matt Jones]

let you just interview people live on the radio?

[Drew Franklin]

I think if you set it up at the proper channels, they will.

[Matt Jones]

Do you know what the proper channels are?

[Drew Franklin]

Not too sure about this prison, but I know like from my.

[Matt Jones]

You've done other prison interviews?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I have.

[Paul Verze]

I know you.

[Matt Jones]

But that's your family I'm talking about. To have them on the air, I

[Drew Franklin]

think it's the whole trick is they gotta be on this approved list and they like they had to fill out a form. Maybe we have to fill it.

[Matt Jones]

Can we go there?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, we do it through the glass.

[Matt Jones]

Can we do it through the glass like in. Like in a Grisham novel?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know that if you can out there or not.

[Ryan Lemond]

I feel like he wants to talk to us.

[Matt Jones]

I can't imagine he's going to say no. He feels like he would love it.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's still trying to get his Carol Baskin message across to the people.

[Matt Jones]

But do you. Will you ask?

[Mangisha]

Yeah, I'll.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll do a little more research on it.

[Matt Jones]

So you're going to ask if we can have him on the show, but specifically could we go and do it there and then what is the process we need? Because I can't imagine they're just like, sure, like it's got to be. I'm sure there's something we got to go through through the bureau, prisons or, you know, strict. Yeah, but. But maybe they will.

[Drew Franklin]

Possible.

[Matt Jones]

Is this the prison out on Leavestown Road?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Yeah, I tried to work there one summer.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, did you really?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they had a job. I remember I was at transy. They had a job opening. They, like, come be a summer prison guard, which to me, felt like a really odd summer job. And myself and another guy were, like, we needed a job. And this. I ended up working at a dry cleaner, but I went and filled it out. Yeah, I ended up starching people's jeans, but I could have been a summer prison guard.

[Ryan Lemond]

Think you would have been a good prison guard?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I don't know how to hold a gun, so I would have been more, hopefully a peacemaker.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think there would have been a lot of.

[Matt Jones]

I just think. I just thought that was a weird job, that you could be like, here, come do it for two and a half months, trancy boy, before you go

[Ryan Lemond]

off to law school.

[Matt Jones]

Come be the warden.

[Drew Franklin]

Here's your gun.

[Matt Jones]

Here's your taser. I filled out a whole test. I mean, I did the whole thing. And then they didn't hire me, so I went to the dry cleaner.

[Drew Franklin]

Shocking.

[Matt Jones]

But will you try to make this happen?

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, I will.

[Matt Jones]

All right, we'll take a break. Be right back. It's ksr.