KSR Postgame UK FB at Auburn 11/02/25

Summary

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KSR Postgame Show: Kentucky Football Defeats Auburn 10-3 (11/02/25)

Podcast: KSR
Host(s): Matt Jones, Billy (Co-host), Tom Hart (Guest), and various callers
Date: November 2, 2025
Game: Kentucky Wildcats at Auburn Tigers (Football)
Final Score: Kentucky 10, Auburn 3

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Episode Overview

This episode of the KSR Postgame Show breaks down Kentucky football's gritty, low-scoring win at Auburn—a 10-3 defensive slugfest that snapped a long SEC winless streak for the Wildcats. Host Matt Jones, co-host Billy, and callers reflect on what the game means for embattled coach Mark Stoops, the program's trajectory, and the complex relationship between fan expectations and program reality. The show features a mix of emotional reactions, sharp analysis, and humor, with input from ESPN/SEC Network’s Tom Hart and plenty of passionate Kentucky fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Significance of the Win

• Historic Context

  • Kentucky wins its first SEC game in more than a year, and only their fourth ever SEC road win in Alabama.
  • Matt Jones emphasizes:

    “We have only won a game in the state of Alabama four times in the history of our program on the road. Start with that.” (08:23)

• Signature Stoops Football

  • Jones frames the game as Mark Stoops’ ideal blueprint—a shutdown defensive effort, ball control offense, and a key hustle play swinging momentum.
  • Quote:

    “If you were to sort of draw up how does Mark Stoops want to win SEC games? ... Win 10 to 3, right. Win where your defense completely envelops the other team … and you just completely dominate them defensively.” (03:10)

• Coaching & Emotional Stakes

  • Stoops’ future at UK was a flashpoint—Jones asserts that a loss likely would have ended his tenure, but the win “buys him another week.”
  • Notable fanbase reaction:

    “On a personal level, I thought the emotion was great and that's why I like him. He wants this so bad and I think a lot of the fan base feels that.” (06:52)

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Defensive Dominance

• Brad White’s Gameplan

  • Kentucky’s defense overwhelmed Auburn, racking up seven sacks and befuddling Auburn’s trio of quarterbacks.
  • Matt Jones notes:

    “The defensive line was excellent. They absolutely overwhelmed both of Auburn's quarterbacks. … The Brad White's blitzes and where they were coming from, they could not pick him up.” (05:27)

• Signature Play

  • Freshman receiver Cameron Miller’s hustle to force a fumble after an interception, giving Kentucky its first fumble recovery of the year.
  • Jones:

    “That's kind of a Mark Stoops signature.” (06:03)

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Offense: Struggles and One Good Drive

• Cutter Bowley's Night

  • Rough game overall, but led the offense on the first drive of the second half for the game’s only touchdown.
  • Guest analyst Tom Hart:

    “Cutter Bully's accuracy took a step back... My biggest concern overall is that Cutter Bully's accuracy took a step back.” (29:35)

• Game Management Debate

  • Jones and Tom Hart discuss the late-game decision to throw the ball and Bowley’s inconsistent passing (30:08–30:46).

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Call-In Highlights: Fans' Complex Emotions

• Shifting Perspective on Stoops

  • Callers range from having wanted Stoops out to admitting the win “reeled me back in.” (13:18, Wild Bill)
  • Emotional complexity: Wanting joy from wins but feeling exhausted by inconsistent results.

• Fans Against Winning for Change

  • Caller “Squirrel” (21:07) openly admits he wished for a loss to push for a coaching change, sparking a debate on fandom and what’s best for the program.

Reactions to Auburn/Tennessee Coaching

• Both hosts and callers agree Auburn's coaching transition is inevitable after the quarterback carousel and the disorganized game plan.
  • Tom Hart:

    “What Hugh Freeze was trying to do with his quarterbacks was the story of the game. Because it will probably cost Hugh Freeze his job.” (28:43)

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Big Picture: Where Is Kentucky Football Going?

• Possibilities & Playoff Talk

  • Discussion of Kentucky's ceiling in the SEC, with reference to how the expanded 12-team playoff may change what’s possible.
  • Jones:

    “Do I think it's likely that if you kept Mark Stoops ... you would go to the playoff? No, I don't. But do I think it's impossible? I don't think it's … I mean, it's not impossible, but it's unlikely.” (17:57)

• The Next Week’s Stakes

  • Next week’s Florida game seen as pivotal for Stoops’ future:

    “But now he lives to fight another day. They get Florida next week at home. I think it's crucial. … I think they're going to have to win.” (07:26)

• Fan Base Realism

  • Several callers and Jones call for perspective and appreciation, given the historical difficulty of winning SEC road games.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Emotional Reaction to Stoops’ On-Field Interview

  • Multiple callers and both hosts express how Stoops’ visible emotion postgame resonated—both for Stoops as a person and for what it means to the program.
  • Caller Christian:

    “At that post game interview like Billy was talking about, man, I, I didn't know what to think, so I just started crying.” (48:07)

• Call of the Night—Delusional Joy

  • Caller Kelly:

    “We may not get a 17 year old center that we can eviscerate every single game… but for tonight, I can have another happy moment. And I'm fine with that.” (39:54)

• Tom Hart’s Perspective (27:10–32:35)

  • “That was a vintage Mark Stoops performance. I thought Brad White took advantage of a 17 year old center… made plays up the middle and made plays with the defense with what was it, seven sacks.” (27:10)
  • “Stoops on the headset right after [the late incomplete pass], there’s a shot of him going, what are we doing?” (30:14)

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Special Teams & Unsung Heroes

• Aidan Lara’s Punting
  • Callers highlight Lara’s role in flipping field position and pinning Auburn’s offense deep.

    “Aiden Laura had a Hell of a game he did. … Five of them were within the 10 … a 57 yard bomb on our side from our side of the field to put them on the 16...” (54:30)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:08 — Start of postgame analysis, setting the scene for the win at Auburn.
• 03:10 — “Dream” Mark Stoops’ win described.
• 05:27 — Breakdown of Kentucky defense’s dominance.
• 06:03 — Signature hustle play: Cameron Miller’s fumble-forcing tackle.
• 07:26 — The win’s impact on Stoops’ job security and program future.
• 13:18 — Wild Bill’s emotional reversal on Stoops.
• 21:07 — Caller Squirrel admits feeling conflicted, rooting for a loss for the ‘greater good’.
• 27:10–32:35 — Tom Hart’s live call-in, national perspective, and technical analysis.
• 39:54 — Caller Kelly’s comment about enjoying the win even if it’s not sustainable.
• 54:30 — Discussion of special teams’ effect on the outcome.

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode balances analytical football discussion with raw fan emotion and humor, capturing the complexity of being a Kentucky football supporter—caught between fleeting moments of joy, persistent frustrations, and the persistent, sometimes irrational, hope for something more. While acknowledging the flaws and doubts in the program, everyone agrees to savor the moment—a rare, hard-nosed SEC road victory, a coach’s emotional release, and a fan base’s night to celebrate, even if only for one night.

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Summary by KSR Postgame Show Listener's Chronicle.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome everyone. It is the local Toyota dealers KSR Post game show. The Cats get a big victory down on the plains in Auburn and not the most exciting game in the world but in one that we won 10 to 3. A huge win for Mark Stoops and a huge win for the Stoops era as the Cats get their first SEC win in over a year and do it on the road. Only the fourth time in the history of the program that they have won an SEC game in the state of Alabama which is in and of itself an unbelievable statistic. But it happens tonight. 859-280-2287. We're going to take your calls. We talked about this post game show could be a historic one. And I think that got sort of staved off a little bit by, by what happened in the win tonight. So we will talk all about it right now. Also, I'm sure many of you have the World Series on because we probably are watching the, if not the most exciting game seven, one of maybe the, probably the most exciting in my lifetime. The only one that would be close to be 2001. But I don't think that one went into extra innings. So I think you're, you're talking about the most exciting crazy plays and the Dodgers had the bases loaded. We'll talk about it throughout the game, but let's, let's focus a little bit on the football game. This was like a definitive kind of Mark Stoops win. If you were to sort of draw ups, how does Mark Stoops want to win SEC games? I think you could make an argument that like this is his dream game. Win 10 to 3, right. Win where your defense completely envelops the other team where they cannot move the ball, where they barely get across midfield and you just completely dominate them defensively. And then you have one really good drive as you milk the clock and sort of play ball control. And then you have one really good drive where you make some big plays and you score a touchdown. That's what win the game because they did have one really good drive. First drive in the second half was, was excellent on all cylinders for uk. I mean they, they threw, had a number of great plays by receivers. Kendrick Law, Fred Farrier gets his fifth and sixth catch of the year and Kentucky gets the, the touchdown. It ends up being enough to win. Got to give a huge shout out to the Kentucky defense to Brad White for the game plan. He drew it up perfectly and the Cats were excellent throughout the game. I, you know, we can break down the various specific parts. Cutter Bowley was not good but had a drive to be able to give us the win. The defensive line was excellent. They absolutely overwhelmed both of Auburn's quarterbacks. It was clear Hugh Freese had no idea what to do. I mean he played, he started one guy, he brought in a backup and then Billy, he brought the starter back in. You know, that's clearly a guy who has no idea, he has no idea what to do with this because he essentially played three quarterbacks and he had absolutely no idea where to go. The Brad White's blitzes and where they were coming from, they could not Pick him up. The quarterbacks were lost. And then when big plays need to be made, they need to be made. And I think it's worth noting that the most important play of the game is in some ways also a signature Stoops play. They throw an interception, they're running it back. And Cameron Miller, a freshman wide receiver causes. And Kentucky recovers its first fumble of the year. Come on, that's ridiculous. But it's a hustle play where he does not quit, he gives effort and he saves the play. That's kind of a Mark Stoops signature. So here's where I am on it. I'm thrilled about the win. Anybody that's not thrilled about the win, I don't like to tell people how to fan, but if you cheer against Kentucky then I think you're, if not, maybe you're a fan, but you're a selfish fan. Everyone should be happy we won. On a personal level, I'm very happy for Mark Stoops. You saw that emotion after the game, the fan base turning on him, which has happened. You, you know it affects him. You can tell, you can see it like he feels this emotion. He is not somebody who get, sees criticism and goes middle fingers up. He's somebody who, it goes internally and he feels it. And I, I sympathize for that. Even though, I mean I don't feel sorry for him in the abstract because he has a ton of money and he's going to be owed a lot of money no matter what. But still on a personal level, I thought the emotion was great and that's why I like him. He wants this so bad and I think a lot of the fan base feels that and that's why they want him to succeed so much. And I'm glad he got this moment. And as a practical matter, I thought if they lost tonight, kind of his fate was sealed. But now he lives to fight another day. They get Florida next week at home. I think it's crucial. I think if he loses that game, probably you end up with the same result as if he loses tonight, which is it would be hard to bring him back. But if you win and then you beat Tennessee Tech and you're five and five with Vandy and Louisville, I mean you got a shot to make a bowl and there's no argument he will be brought back if they make a bowl. They are not firing a coach at Kentucky and paying a 37 million dollar buyout in if he makes a bowl. Now we've talked about Billy, maybe the worst result for the program is 5 and 7.

[Co-host Billy]

Then you don't know what to do.

[Matt Jones]

Then you don't know what to do. I mean, I know a lot of fans, most fans will probably want to change. I think a lot of people around the administration will not want to change. And you're going to have this, like, sort of. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what happens in that scenario. But I do know what happened with what would have happened if they lost tonight, which was. It would have been over. And so it was a huge win. And then when it's over, you saw Mitch Barnhart on the field. You know, there's another person on that field, which was one of our biggest donors, was standing right behind him, too. I mean, they're the ones like this is all going to kind of come down to their decision making. And it's a big game for Mark's future. So there's another big one coming Saturday. I don't think they can lose that game. I think they're going to have to win. And Florida's pretty good. They played Georgia, you know, they had a shot to win that game at the end of the game, so. Well, I say Florida is pretty good. I don't know that they're good. But Florida can beat you if you don't show. If you don't play well, Florida will probably be favored. So I am thrilled about the victory. But it also causes a game Saturday that's like you're playing for your career, Billy, at home. We can't lose another home game. You know, we can't. We can't lose another SEC home game. But it wouldn't have mattered at all if it wasn't for not to tonight. And I think people really need to celebrate tonight. It was an ugly game. It was a boring game, but it was a definitively Mark Stoops kind of game. It's the kind of game that he thought he could build a program to win games like this, and you got to give him credit for doing it. And one thing I will say, I know it's easy to dismiss some of our fan base and I've never understood this once to dismiss our own wins as if we're somehow Alabama. We have only won a game in the state of Alabama four times in the history of our program on the road. Start with that. Secondly, you know, Auburn played Oklahoma, Missouri and Texas A and M down to the final play, or excuse me, there were one possession games, not final play, but one possession games. So, I mean, they were not good tonight. But you know what? We had something to do with that. So I think the program deserves credit. If you're going to criticize, you have to praise. And tonight is a night of praise. 859-280-2287. The Blue Jays are now up bottom of the 10th. I mean, this is who's going to win. Got Yamamoto pitching who's. I mean, he'll be the MVP if he does not. If he does not give up the winning run here. Who you got, Billy?

[Co-host Billy]

I got a root for the Blue Jays. Even though that Dodgers catch where the guys collided into each other was insane.

[Matt Jones]

Insane. And even the play before where they throw him out at home, barely. Yeah, I mean the defensive plays in this series have been. Have been awesome. And by the way, by the time people listen on podcast tomorrow, they already know. And we'll say if that sounds stupid as the dodgers get the second out. 859-280-2287. We will take your calls and be right back. Cats with a big road SEC win. This is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. The baseball game goes to the 11th. I didn't realize that the Yamamoto pitched last night. So the dude that started last night is now in. In relief. That's crazy. That never happens in baseball. Doesn't.

[Co-host Billy]

When it's game seven, you just throw everything you got at it, right?

[Matt Jones]

No, but I mean, I mean he started last night and now they bring back. That's. That's crazy. I don't. I feel like that never happens. But then again, I guess it is game seven. 859-280-2287. If you haven't seen the videos, you need to see of the two hockey games going on right now. There's an Edmonton game in Edmonton and then there's a LA Kings game in la and they have the video of. In both games when it looked like Toronto won in the ninth, the blue. The Edmonton crowd goes crazy and then realizes he's out at home. Right? And then in the Dodgers game when he makes the catch to send it into extra innings, they go crazy. You need to see those videos because the people on the ice don't know what's going on. And they're like, why is everyone yelling? And they're. Because they're watching their other Games on their phones. 859-280-2287. I guess let's just get started. Who's up first?

[Co-host Billy]

Wild Bill.

[Matt Jones]

Wild Bill how are you?

[Caller]

Hey, I'm good. Matt, Billy. How are y' all doing?

[Matt Jones]

Doing well.

[Caller]

Good. I just wanted to say I finished off a vacation earlier this weekend, Destin, and drove up to a Red Roof Inn in Opelika, Alabama, and made my way into Auburn tonight. And man, as much crap about. I've been talking about Stoops for a while now, all my friends and family, I'll be honest, I wanted him gone, but, like, man, this reeled me back in. This is like a quintessential.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you flipped. Wait a minute. You flipped.

[Caller]

I did. I did. I'm Matt. I have had season tickets since I was a freshman at UK in 2010. My first game was like, oh, two and Lorenzen, and they got in a fight with Middle Tennessee State back in the day. Like, I. It runs in my veins, man. Like, I want Stoops to win, but like, he, he gave us every reason to want him to leave. And tonight, tonight's a great example of why Stoops has done so well for us.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with that. I do agree with that. Well, let me ask you a question. You were at the game, so you're probably in part caught up in the emotion, which, by the way, good on you for going to that game because I don't think we had. We didn't have a ton of people there. Am I right about that? Yes.

[Caller]

But I bought these tickets along with Louisville tickets back in the summer.

[Matt Jones]

Well, still so good on you for going. But let's say they were. Let's say they were lose to Florida, Vandy and Louisville. Would you still feel that way?

[Caller]

I mean, yeah, but it's like you've talked about it off and on over the past few weeks here.

[Matt Jones]

It's like, home run Will Smith, Louisville. Go ahead, Louisville guy. Sorry, Louisville's Will Smith just hit a home run, but go ahead.

[Caller]

We've got a pipe dream at 6 and 6. I'll. I'll admit that it's a pipe.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we do.

[Caller]

But for sure, if that happens, it's like, what do all the Stoops naysayers and I'll. I'll be the first to bite the bullet. Like, I have dogged him for weeks. I've dogged him going back to 2018 when he had that moment in that little documentary of Give it to Benny, give it to Benny, Give it to Benny. Like, everybody wants to micro analyze the offense and I'm, I'm right there with him. But at the same time, defense running the football, turnovers, field position wins football games. And we won an SEC game on the plains when the craziest stuff that could ever happen kind of sort of happened there in the second half. A little blip of it. But like I just wanted to say like.

[Matt Jones]

No, I understand, you're right. Listen, first of all I might to cut you off. I appreciate the call. Enjoy. I'm glad you went to the game. Enjoy the drive back. It's. There are people already crying in the comments crowd. Billy, that's, that's not a good look anyway I, I get it. I would be. We all will have to salute him if he goes 6 and 6. You have to because everybody including myself will have said there's no way but we're still a ways away from that. You got to be Florida and then you're going to have to pull off a big upset. I mean Vandy and Louisville are top 15 teams and you're going to have to go beat them on the road. So let's. But if he does, they'll deserve, he'll deserve a huge level of, of you know, praise but it's far from happening. But they had to get this one and they did. So that is a, that's a huge, huge thing. By the way, it would be Billy. Torture to be fans of one of these teams during a game like this.

[Co-host Billy]

I think that's why they're crying already.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, like for especially Toronto. I mean the Dodgers won last year so while it's what you know, if they lost, they won last year for Toronto. If they lose this, this will be torture. Having the ball get stuck under the thing last night. Yeah, the double play, the fact that they ran into each other it was a half and you know they had a lead 3 nothing in this game. It will be torture if you're a Toronto fan if you lose tonight. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Thomas.

[Matt Jones]

Thomas. Go ahead, Thomas.

[Caller]

Matt, you've been the case for years that the Alabama, Georgia kind of place we would be an upper tier close to that but never get there. But now seeing what Louisville and Vanderbilt has done, are you changing your thinking on where we might be somewhere if we had a. Doing things different?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but remember now look what happened. I mean Vandy lost today. Right? Right. They lost at home or they lost to Texas today. I mean I still think it's really, really hard but I think yeah, I. Louisville does not. Louisville's not part of it to me because they're in the ACC. I think teams in the ACC and Big 12, every single one of them have a chance to do something special. Because the conference isn't great, but in the SEC and to a lesser extent the Big Ten. Because there are bad teams in the Big Ten. Although there are great teams, there are bad teams. I did not think a team like Vandy or a team like Missouri could do what they can do. So yes, I do think Kentucky could win 10 games, nine games, whatever, and go to a playoff. Do I think they can do it regularly? No. But could they do it one time? Sure, yes, I do believe that.

[Caller]

But it's gonna, it's gonna make a change of personnel do that though, right? Because we've had the same thing for a long time.

[Matt Jones]

Well, right, yeah. I mean, maybe, but, but I would again acknowledge though, again, like, okay, I saw a stat from. Let's go back to the year we went beat Penn State in the, in the Citrus Bowl. We might have been in the playoff that year if there had been a 12 team playoff. Right. So do I think it's likely that if you kept Mark Stoops, et cetera, you would go to the playoff? No, I don't. But, but do I think it's impossible? I don't think it's. I mean, it's not impossible, but it's unlikely. I think that's fair to say.

[Caller]

But Vanderbilt did pass us up.

[Matt Jones]

They have. But let me ask you, what you say if we, what do we be. What if we beat Florida and we go down there and upset him in Nashville? Then what do you say? What if that scenario right there happens? No, but you, you, you crack up. But I don't think. But I don't think that's. But, yeah, exactly. But that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think that's. I don't think it's likely. I think it's unlikely, but I don't think it's crazy that we could go down there and win. It's not crazy.

[Caller]

No, no.

[Matt Jones]

And then what do you say? I mean, what do we all say?

[Caller]

I'm going to hang in there. I'm going to hang in there and see.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, exactly. That's what we have to do. I appreciate the call. What do we, what do we do in that scenario? I mean, we would have to salute him. Right, but first you got to be floor. We gotta enjoy this one. And then be floored and then see if Yamamoto can become MVP and finish this inning. What's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Tim?

[Matt Jones]

Tim. Go ahead, Tim.

[Caller]

Hey, man. How's it going, bud?

[Matt Jones]

Doing good.

[Caller]

Yeah. Big win for, for the Cats tonight. Listen, I'm a Stoops fan, I won't deny that and, and always will be. Listen, you know, I've watched, you know, the cat since 76, you know, peach bow on and you know, I'm just supporting Stoops. There's a big win today. You know, I don't think it's out of the realm that we, we beat Florida Saturday coming up and. No, you know, we do a good, you know, we do a good job with Vandy down there in Vandy. So we'll see what happens and go from there. What do you think?

[Matt Jones]

I agree completely. I was trying to think, and I appreciate the call, what the spread would be. You know, I have thought the last two spreads on the Kentucky games were just awful by, I mean, I thought, I thought Tennessee at seven and a half was free money for Tennessee. I couldn't believe it was that close. And then I thought Auburn, it was 11 and a half at kick. I, I don't, I don't understand that at all either. I, I didn't think we were going to win, but I thought we'd be close. So I, so I, I don't know what they're going to do. My guess is Florida will be like a 3 1/2 point favorite. That's just my guess. But, but I don't know. Vlad gets a double. Billy, maybe it's not over for your Blue Jays yet.

[Co-host Billy]

I don't want it to end. This has been awesome.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it has. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Squirrel.

[Matt Jones]

Squirrel. How are you, Squirrel?

[Caller]

Doing pretty good. Hey, Matt, I'm sorry, but you're gonna throw me in the, in that selfish category, man, I'm sad. I'm mad. I'm everything in between.

[Matt Jones]

You're sad and mad that we won.

[Caller]

I'm sad that I feel this way, but I'm mad that we won. Yes. Yes, I am.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, now, Squirrel, you've always been a good Kentucky fan. I mean, I, I've met you over the years. You, you, you get into the games. You're, I mean, you are, you're a very good fan.

[Caller]

Yes. And that's why I'm sad. That's why I'm, Why would you be.

[Matt Jones]

Why would you be. I can understand why you'd be disappointed yourself, but why would you be mad that we won a game at Auburn for only the fourth time in the, in the history of the school?

[Caller]

Because it's like we're just kicking the 10 down the road. It's like, but are we.

[Matt Jones]

But what if we beat Florida and then we beat Vandy? If I Told you, Squirrel. Before the season started, Kentucky goes six and six makes a bowl. You would have probably said, I'll take it.

[Caller]

Correct. I would.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so what if that, what if that happens?

[Caller]

Then I guess we keep him. But I mean, I don't think, I don't think there's any way that this is repaired. I just don't. I mean.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, isn't it. It's repaired. If they go six, six. I mean, look, do I think it's likely? Do I think it's likely? No. But do I think there's a good a, A decent chance we beat Florida next week and we go into the Vandy and Louisville game having to win one to go to a bowl? Yes, I think that legitimately can happen.

[Caller]

I agree. I just, you know, I just, I don't know, I just. To be honest, I just kind of wish that we just ripped the band aid off and.

[Matt Jones]

And you wish we lost.

[Caller]

I don't want to say I wish. I do. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

All right. All right. Well, I appreciate the call. That's harder for me to understand. I mean, I, I'm not. Yeah, I just, I could never root against my team. I couldn't. You know, if you were in the pros and it was like the end of the year and you're going for the first pick or something, I, you know, I understand that. But in for college sports, we only, especially football, we only play 12 games. Like, I don't know, I can't root against the team that I follow. I just, I can't. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Well, I was going to say Stoops. Being emotional after the win was probably my favorite part of the whole season. I mean, it still means a lot for him to have success because of all that he's accomplished here.

[Matt Jones]

I think you're exactly right for me that that is the best part of the season. I think that. I think that's completely fair. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Tucker?

[Matt Jones]

Tucker, what's up, Tucker?

[Caller]

Hey, Matt, can you hear me? Yes, a first time caller here. You know, I just kind of reflecting on what one of my friends said, you know, Stoops kind of makes you just, for lack of better term, just hate life. But he kind of just brings you right back in. You're like, I love this guy. I love this guy. And it's funny how that works with this program. Like, you know, you feel like, wow, like, how are we going to lose this game? And whenever Hugh Freeze had no idea what he was doing at halftime, he talked about bringing in Jackson Arnold. I thought oh, my God. Here comes Jackson Arnold's Heisman moment.

[Matt Jones]

What was weird is he didn't bring. If you were going to make the change, I feel like you would do it at halftime. It was weird to me that he. He makes the change. The guy brings in, actually has a good drive. They ended up not getting points out of it, but he has a good drive. Then he takes him out and then brings the other guy and then he brings you back. It was clear he had no game plan at all. That's what I mean. That's what. He's gonna be fired. He was gonna be fired no matter what if we lost, but he should be fired just for how he handled the quarterback situation tonight.

[Caller]

That's how bad it was. He brought, you know, he started this guy and then he said, oh, we'll give him one drive. He gave him. He gave Jackson Arnold, what, two drives.

[Matt Jones]

But he had a good drive. But the guy. The guy had a good drive. That was like, they're probably their best drive of the game. And then they took him out. I didn't understand. Understand that. Yeah.

[Caller]

And it just goes to show that Hugh Freeze was scared out of his mind about what happens if I lose to Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

I think you're right.

[Caller]

I hate to say it kind of shows where our program is at, but either way, I love that we won the game and I love how Brad White played and responded. His whole defense responded to what happened last week. Also, that Ty Bryant targeting review was so bs. I hate that.

[Matt Jones]

But at least they got the right.

[Caller]

You would have got kicked out. I think I would have thrown my TV off.

[Matt Jones]

Me too. I. I totally agree with you. Appreciate the call. And the Dodgers get a double play and they win the World Series. Wow.

[Co-host Billy]

Or Blue Jays.

[Matt Jones]

I do feel bad for the Blue Jays fans, man. That is, I mean, three.

[Co-host Billy]

One series lead or three to give.

[Matt Jones]

Up a home run to a dude, Miguel Rojas. I mean, look at. That's brutal. And you know, wow, that's tough. All right, we'll take a break. 859-280-2287. We'll be right back. This is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. I put out a social media, like, quick reaction to the game. I think I'm gonna start doing those. Billy from wherever I am just like two minutes before that.

[Co-host Billy]

What is it? It's a video of you recapping it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, just like a two minute, like for people who maybe don't get to turn on the show.

[Caller]

Right.

[Co-host Billy]

I don't, kind of like, I don't like that now.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you want me to save all thoughts for here?

[Co-host Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like hoard all thoughts.

[Odoo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Not listening to you, but I'm glad to get you to get your opinion. The guy who called the game is on the phone. Tom Hart with a special post game show call in from Auburn. Tom, nice surprise. What'd you think?

[Tom Hart]

Well, to be fair, I'm calling it from Interstate 85 on my drive home, but yeah, man, I thought that was, I thought that was a vintage Mark Stoops performance. I thought Brad White took advantage of a 17 year old center and they just kept hammering them and made plays up the middle and made plays with the defense with what was it, seven sacks. And I, I thought it was really neat the way Alyssa handled Mark Stoops post game. He was obviously emotional.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Tom Hart]

He's, he, he knows what's at stake. And I said this at the end of the game. He's a fiercely proud man.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Tom Hart]

And the last season and a half has been incredibly disappointing, I know for the fan base, but it's been disappointing for him given what he's built. And so, you know, you know me, Matt, like, I'm not a fan of programs. I get to be fans of people and individuals and I, I was just, I, it warmed my cockles to see.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I understand. I was the same way. I, I think, I, I think any person who's gotten to know Mark Stoops at all would feel exactly like you did. I didn't realize the center was 17, by the way. I could hear the disdain in Cole's voice for all things Auburn offensive line all night. As a former Auburn player and offensive lineman, I could just hear him like trying to hold in how frustrated he was at them all night.

[Tom Hart]

Well, I think the frustration specifically from Cole, and if you look at it big picture, like what, what Hugh Freeze was trying to do with his quarterbacks was the story of the game. Because it will probably cost you Freeze his job.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Tom Hart]

Is it, it doesn't matter who's back there if you can't protect them and they don't have time. And you know, credit Kentucky for, for attacking the weak point. But golly, like you're gonna change quarterbacks three times in one game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that was ridiculous. I didn't, I didn't understand that at all. Well, let me ask you this. Mark Stoops, you, you know him a little bit. You were around them. Where do you, I mean, I, I, they did I assume they thought they could come in and win. How do you think they feel like they can finish this year? I mean, there is a path to him going to a bowl.

[Tom Hart]

Of course there is. Yeah. My biggest concern overall is that Cutter Bully's accuracy took a step back. You probably saw the look on Bush Hamden's face when with like 220 to go, instead of running it, they took a shot and it was a very poorly thrown ball.

[Matt Jones]

It was. I didn't mind the call. I didn't mind the call. It was a bad ball. And I'm not sure that they should have thrown the play. They did, but I didn't mind throwing it right there, trying to finish the game.

[Tom Hart]

Try. It would have sealed the game. Stoops on the headset right after that, there's a shot of him going, what are we doing?

[Matt Jones]

So I understand he wanted to run it up the middle. He wanted to run it up the middle. That's what he wanted to do, I'm sure. Well.

[Tom Hart]

And if you run up the middle, you force them to take another time out.

[Matt Jones]

You do. But then. But my view is you can't have it both ways because we've. We've all been complaining about the fact they ran it up the middle four straight times against Texas, you know, at some point, I don't know, I mean, like, I. I guess Stoop just wants to run it up the middle all the time, but I actually didn't mind. I just wish it had been a better play.

[Tom Hart]

Yeah. And it goes back like Cutter had some throws tonight where, granted they lit him up a few times and he was rushed a lot, but there were a few throws that just came out of his hand weird. Like even some of the completions were floated and came out of his hand weird. So anyway, to answer your question, Cutter hadn't made incredible progress and the game plan had allowed him to over the last. Since the off week. Right.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Tom Hart]

Especially. He's got to be more efficient for this season to end on a high note. What. However you define that and you know you're gonna have to do it against Florida to start and then.

[Matt Jones]

And you are here next week, right, Aren't you? Aren't you here next week again?

[Tom Hart]

It's our time slot. I. I would guess we are there.

[Caller]

We.

[Tom Hart]

I don't have the assignment yet, but yeah, I would. I would expect were there.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Tom Hart]

Well, I think you made the point on the show today. Yesterday you made a great point when one of the callers like, well, Auburn stinks and Florida Stinks. You can't pick and choose when you value those wins.

[Matt Jones]

I agree completely.

[Tom Hart]

Yeah. Yeah. They all count the same in in the conference standings. And so I just think every. I shouldn't say everything's still in front of them because obviously they struggled. But wow, you know, you do have opportunities and this has to make you feel good that you go on the road. Auburn is never an easy place to play at, so I give him a lot of credit for getting it done.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I do, too, Tom. It's always great. And whenever your next UK basketball game is. I'm looking forward to what you work in. I catch them. They're harder. You're more subtle about it now. It makes it much harder. But when we get it, I appreciate it.

[Tom Hart]

I. I did my best tonight. It's harder in the closer games, but.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I couldn't tell which one. What did you do tonight? I was listening. I didn't get one.

[Tom Hart]

It was. Now, you put me on the spot. It was early and it was very vague.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Tom Hart]

But I snuck one in like the late first quarter.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Tom Hart]

I have to give it some more.

[Matt Jones]

Somebody sent me one. I'll have to look and see what it was. But I didn't. I did. I actually had it on mute at the start of the first quarter, so maybe I missed it. Well, it wasn't because of you. I just.

[Tom Hart]

Thank you for not listening.

[Matt Jones]

I was trying to. I was watching the Breeders Cup. I was trying to make money, Tom. Appreciate it. Be safe getting home. All right?

[Tom Hart]

All right, buddy. Thanks.

[Matt Jones]

All right, see you. 859-280-2287. Who's next? Billy?

[Co-host Billy]

Corey.

[Matt Jones]

Corey, Go ahead. Corey.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. You know, I'm just. I'm more or less just curious how you more or less like what you thought about Stoop's comments at the end when he had his has interview there on the field.

[Matt Jones]

It was like. It was kind of, you know, I was. It made me really happy for him. I'm glad he got that moment. I don't know what the next few weeks are going to be like. I don't know what it's going to feel like, but he deserved to have that moment. He's given a lot to this place. It has to be hard. Are you. Is he still there, the caller?

[Co-host Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. It has to be hard. It has to be hard. When you. And I'm not saying fan reaction. I mean some fan reaction is over the top. But you know, we did that little poll and what, 97% of the fans, and they wanted to Change. And I don't think those people are unreasonable. But it does have to be hard if you're the coach and you so want this to work and you want this fan base to love you, because Mark Stoops genuinely wants to be loved. He is not someone who is confrontation like, he wants to be embraced, and it has to be hard. If this group of people you want to embrace you are saying they want you to go. That just has to be hard. So just on a human level, watching him be happy makes me happy. You know, this is serious business on the one hand, and, like, if he's not the guy, you might have to make a change. But if you're a human being, you want other human beings to have happy moments. And so it really did. Like, it made me happy to see a guy have that kind of emotion, because I'm sure it was a great feeling.

[Co-host Billy]

Caller's gone now.

[Matt Jones]

Does that. I hope that's articulated that correctly. But there's just a human being part of it that, you know, I like to see. People like, Hugh Freeze seems like a jerk. Okay. No, he does. I don't know if he is. Maybe he's not, but you look at his history, he just seems like a jerk. So when he gets booed off the field at the end, I don't feel bad for him. Mark has faults, but he's not a jerk. He's like. I just. He's a human being that has some. A lot of strengths. He's got some weaknesses, and just overall, though, he wants to be loved and, like, it's nice to see him get that for a night. We'll see what happens next week. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Jerry?

[Matt Jones]

Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.

[Caller]

Hey, Matt. First off, I want to say congratulations to Stoops and the team for the win. I mean, I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad they finally had something to celebrate. But, you know, all along, I felt like, until Napier got fired, I felt like the Auburn game was the best chance for them to get a win because, like you said, that Hugh Freeze is a jerk, and I think he's alienated his team, and. And you could tell his team that it was just. It was dysfunctional. I mean, he'll be. He's gonna get fired tomorrow.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he is. He's gonna be fired, and he needs to be fired, because it wasn't just that they lost, although that would be bad enough. It was, like, just the way they handled the quarterbacks, and it did. They just. They were like, I don't know. What's, what happened there, but it's clear they need a change.

[Caller]

Yeah, well, he's, I, I suspect something like Brian Kelly. Once he gets fired, you're going to start hearing a lot of stories coming out there about the way this treat a lot of players. And, and I mean I, I, you could just tell some of those guys weren't playing hard. But now Florida, I thought we were going to have a good chance because I thought Florida be a little dysfunctional because of the whole nature thing, but man, they look good today and Florida's got a lot of talent.

[Matt Jones]

They do. We might lose and we might lose. But I would note that like a lot of these, I think one of the consistent themes of teams in the SEC that aren't really good is that one week you get one performance and the next week you get a different. Right, right. And so it's, it's, it's hard to know. I mean, you know, you get Texas looks awful against us and then they go beat Vandy. Right. Florida has looked horrendous and then they play Georgia really well. Tennessee has looked great. But then they lose at home to Oklahoma. Like you just, I don't. When you these, when you're not very good. Like I think the variety of how you play can change a lot.

[Caller]

And, and it was nice to see those fat, orangeless, orange toothless goobers lose Oklahoma tonight. That was outstanding.

[Matt Jones]

At home, at home. I appreciate the call. That's a bad boss. And they're eliminated now I think from the playoffs. So, you know, you probably saw. And I appreciate the call. Two of you know, I don't consider Vandy a rival, but if you were to say, okay, in football, who are the teams that we have the biggest whatever with? It's probably Tennessee, Vandy and Louisville and, and it's a good chance that two of them got eliminated from the playoff today. Vandy may still have an outside shot, but probably not. I mean, Tennessee's out. Vandy's probably out. You know, Louisville still in. Indiana is in. I can't believe how good Indiana is. Not just that they win, but that they beat everybody by 40.

[Co-host Billy]

Blowing them out.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, like that. That's amazing to me. I mean, I don't know. That dude might be the best coach that's ever existed. I mean it's, you know, I thought last year was just a fluke. They didn't really play anybody and they haven't played many people this year. But they wanted Oregon so you can't like ignore that. But the fact that they just pound these teams. It's just really amazing. I mean, they beat illinois, what, like 63 to 15? Then they won today, 55 to 10. Like it's crazy. And he's in Indiana, but he might, he might be the best coach of all time. Let's do one more and we'll take a final break. Who's that?

[Co-host Billy]

Kelly.

[Matt Jones]

Kelly. Go ahead, Kelly.

[Caller]

I feel like I can be delusional again just for a moment.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, go for it.

[Caller]

Because, like, look, the way that Stoops wins games, it may not be sustainable long term and he may still have to get fired. But just for tonight, I can be a happy fan. And to go back to something that you said, just real quick, you said something about you want Mark Stoops to have happy moments, or you phrased it something like that. Yeah, I want a human being who's given me as a fan, so many happy moments to have a happy moment in turn. And tonight's another one of those happy moments. We may not get a 17 year old center that we can eviscerate every single game.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't get 17.

[Caller]

Yeah, we may not be able, we may not be able to win a game only scoring 10 points, which by the way, the last time we did that was when we were playing a wide receiver at quarterback. But for tonight, I can have another happy moment. And I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. We can address the future of Soups later. I was fully expecting, expecting for this to be a horrible game and it wasn't. So I, I'm fine. And for tonight, I'm gonna let myself be delusional.

[Matt Jones]

I, I totally agree. That's the way to be. I, I, that would be my call of the night. I agree with you. I totally agree. Why not? I mean, at the end of the day, we're supposed to enjoy this. And a lot of times with Kentucky football, in all of our lives, it has not been enjoyable. And in the last two years specifically, it's really not been enjoyable. And you know what? Like, this was enjoyable in the sense that we won, we got, we got a coach fired, and we got a coach fired who all by all measures seems to be the worst. So you know what?

[Caller]

He can go to his golf course.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. You know, I mean, like, he, we know his history and like, he doesn't seem like he's a very fun, like, pleasant guy to begin with. So he just got fired, Kentucky got a coach fired and we won on the road. And I'm with you. Enjoy it. I appreciate the call. I enjoy it. I was, you know, I wondered, I wondered would I have even a moment of like, well, if we win? I wasn't. I was pulling for him the whole game. I was pumping my fist and, you know, I was pacing on my floor here just like anything else. I'm going to be doing the same thing next week. You know, you beat Auburn in Florida. I, we can still have the discussion of what we need to do at the end of the year, but I'm never not going to enjoy myself winning an SEC road game against the team in Alabama because we haven't done it, I mean, in my lifetime. I think we've done it once. So, you know, I'm going to enjoy it now. It's twice. 859-280-2287. By the way, tomorrow, if you're in Cincinnati, I'm going to the Bengals Bears game and I'm doing Billy, I'm going to bed as soon as it's over. Getting up at 7:15 in the morning, driving to Cincinnati.

[Co-host Billy]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And doing Matt Myron from the Holy Grail tomorrow in Cincinnati. So if you're going to the Bengals game tomorrow, if you want to stop by the Holy Grail and say hello, I'd love to say hi to you.

[Co-host Billy]

Sounds like a nice spot. The Holy Grail.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's right across from the red stadium. At least we get to fall back. So I get one more hour of sleep.

[Co-host Billy]

That's true.

[Matt Jones]

So six hours instead of. Well, I hope six hours. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's local Toyota dealers KSR Postgame Show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. 859-280-2287. Had a good day with the Breeders cup today, Billy. Big hit for, for Uncle Man.

[Co-host Billy]

Did the pick five come in after.

[Matt Jones]

The pick five did not come in, but I had Forever Young was my Bri was my classic pick and I had everything built around it. So that was, that was a probably. That was a huge score. And then I did up pretty good on the rest of the day, too. It's probably my best Breeders cup day ever. Usually. I love betting the Breeders cup because you, you can get good horses at longer odds because there's so many good horses in the races. Yeah, a lot of horses drop out, so it wasn't quite the prices you normally get but, but I enjoyed. I really like the Breeders Cup Derby's. I mean, Derby's my favorite, but like Breeders Cup's really good. I think it's an underrated sporting event and it's back here at Kingland again next year, isn't it?

[Co-host Billy]

I think it's coming back. I don't know if it's next year.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going. I've gone. The last. I was the. You remember the two years we've had it. We had American Pharaoh and we had Flight line. Arguably the two best horses of the last, what, 25 years have been the two Breeders Cups here. So maybe we'll have another good one next year. 859280, 2287. Who's up next?

[Co-host Billy]

Richard.

[Matt Jones]

Richard. Go ahead, Richard.

[Caller]

Hey. Hey, Billy. I called in last week after the Tennessee loss and was really demoralized and said we should have gotten rid of Stoops last year. But I agree with Billy. This was the highlight of my season. I think that this should be about joy. And when every other team departs from there with their coach, like you all were saying, it's going to be ugly, it's going to be messy because a lot of those guys are not really that nice. I mean, I would take Stoops over a lot of these people just as human beings because Stoopzz is a very vulnerable person. He's a very open person and not really a braggadocious sort of kind of coach. And the world needs more of that and the world needs to see that succeed and the world needs to see that be loved. And I mean, my grandfather played on the 53 team under bear Bryant. And I have so much love in my heart for Kentucky football. Even going back to the joker years. I got. I went to the blue white practice when we had Randall Cobb and he threw his glove up in the stands and I still have that in my room. But you ought to read Lord of the Rings, Matt. I know you're not. You're not a nerd.

[Matt Jones]

I've read it. I've read it. I've read it.

[Caller]

Well, he is our Theoden. He is our King Satan. He's our king Satan. And, and, and I'm going to the game Saturday. That is our Helm's deep. We are going there. We're going to slaughter those gators. And then we're riding to the gates of Louisville door and we're going to slaughter those orcs too.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, I appreciate the call. I like the emotion behind it. Like the Lord of the Rings reference. See, we don't get a lot. This is why I like doing shows late at night. It gets. It draws a different kind of person. Bill, you get People comparing Mark Stoops to Lord what's his name? It's been so long since I've read. See, I've never seen the movies, which is crazy. I gotta be the only person in the world that's read the books and not seen the movies.

[Co-host Billy]

Yeah, you gotta go watch the movies.

[Matt Jones]

I read them books when I was, like, in high school. And I've never. I've got to watch the movies. I can't. I sit down to watch it, and I watch, like, the first 30 minutes where they're having the party, and then Gandalf shows up, and then I end up just getting somewhere around when they walk off and they go into that thing and the horses come by. Then I end up just, like, falling asleep and I never start again.

[Co-host Billy]

Are you like Shannon and Hate. Like Star wars and Harry Potter?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I've never seen Harry Potter, though, either. I have seen Star wars, although I don't think I've seen them all. I saw Star Wars, Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back. I saw one or two of the prequels. I don't think I've seen any of the. What is it? Post schools. 7, 8, 9.

[Co-host Billy]

Don't have to watch those.

[Matt Jones]

I saw 4, 5, 6, and I guess I saw, like, 1, 2.

[Co-host Billy]

Haven't seen 3.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think so. No, I remember I saw Jar Jar. I saw it. I went to the theater. Jar Jar and all that. And watched all that Circus.

[Co-host Billy]

Yeah, I don't blame you.

[Caller]

Not.

[Matt Jones]

I went. I wasn't there opening night, but I was there where people were dressed up and all that. That was like. That was when I was in college. College. So who's next? Five more.

[Co-host Billy]

Christian.

[Matt Jones]

Christian. Go ahead. Christian.

[Caller]

Am first time, long time.

[Matt Jones]

Who are. What's up?

[Caller]

Just overall, just a really special night. I Sitting there watching the game. I didn't have high expectations going in. I don't really know how I. How I feel about Stoop still being there, but I started getting my hopes up. I started really getting into it. And then we threw the interception and then we got the fubwood. It was.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. You know, that interception. I mean, like, that play is such a huge play. I mean, oh, 1,000%. Because if they. I'm not. I'm not certain they would have scored because they really weren't moving the ball either way, but they would have at least probably gotten a field goal. And then I do think it changes kind of how the game gets played. And. And to do it on Hustle, I. I think it's actually a fitting way for a Mark Stoops team to win honestly 1000%.

[Caller]

And then at that post game interview like Billy was talking about, man, I, I didn't know what to think, so I just started crying. I mean, I.

[Matt Jones]

Did you just.

[Caller]

I just started crying. Yeah. I, I don't know what the future holds with him, but I mean he's brought majority of my Kentucky football memories to me and that was just another special one with just with where it's at. You know, I, sometimes I'm like, let's get rid of this guy. Other times I'm like, let's, you know, let's ride it out. But, but yeah, just a really special moment. And yeah, I mean my, I'm, I'm very optimistic now. So let's, let's go seven.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go. I appreciate the call. It's interesting to me. Like I'm glad we've done this post game show because I kind of. It's nice to hear some of this talk. I mean, obviously it's helped by the fact we won. I don't know if people would have been this positive otherwise, but it's nice to hear some of this. By the way, one o' clock tomor Kentucky and Texas number two versus number three in women's volleyball, we're going to be having a watch party at KS Bar. I know the folks with the. That are kind of, maybe some of the people, family members are like there's, there's going to be like a lot of people there. I hope they'll certainly be some people there and should be fun. So going out there. But even if you don't watch the game, I mean this is. Kentucky's probably playing to lock in its ninth SEC title in a row and a chance to host the tournament all the way to the final Four. I mean, so massive game tomorrow for Kentucky volleyball. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Ken.

[Matt Jones]

Ken. Go ahead, Ken.

[Caller]

Hey man. Long time was no first time caller. Love my cats. Grew up. Grew up with cats, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yep.

[Caller]

And am I happy with Stokes Ish.

[Matt Jones]

I understand. I actually understand that answer to be.

[Caller]

He'S got the most poll victories, he's got the most wins and he's done more for this program than any other coach since Bear Bryant.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And we're wanting to run him out of rail because we're not winning. Our fans are delusional. We're not Alabama.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm not. Okay. I, I went. Now listen, I went with you up until right then. Okay. I think being happy ish is Good. And I think your comments about since belt bear brine are good. I don't think it's ridiculous for our fans not to want to go 4 and 8. 4 and 8. Okay. I don't think that's ridiculous.

[Caller]

No, I don't want to. No. But I think it's quick that we forget that, what, two, three years ago, we were seventh in the country.

[Matt Jones]

We were. But that's. But. But that's a long time ago. That's a long time ago. And. Well, first of all, it wasn't two or three years ago. It was four years ago. But, but, but nevertheless, yeah, 22, which is four seasons ago, depending on how you count three, four. But, you know, 22, 23, 24, 25, regardless. It's not so much, though, about, like, you cannot build the future based on saying, well, well, he did it four years ago. The question is, how does it look for the future? And I think it looks for the future a lot different if we finish 6 and 6 than if it does 4 and 8. But let's just say we finish 4 now. Let's. Then all of a sudden you're back to back four and eight seasons. How do you, at that point, say it looks good for the future?

[Caller]

It's a tougher argument. I'll. I will.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So we still have a lot to see what happens, because I can make either claim. The harder claim is going to be if we finish five and seven. I don't know what to say then, okay, but if we finish 6 and 6, then I'm going to be. You're going to hear me say, if he wants to come back, we. We have to have him back. If we finish 4 and 8, you're probably going to hear me say, we got to make a change. If he finishes 5 and 7, then I don't know what I'm gonna say, to be honest with you. And I don't think UK knows what it would do in that scenario, to be honest with you.

[Caller]

So go back in time when this schedule was released. What was your overall expectations for this?

[Matt Jones]

Well, no, I thought we were gonna 4 and 8. I thought we were gonna go 4 and 8 because I thought we were going to be terrible. And I. And we're, you know, so we're on pace to go exactly what I thought. I think. I thought we would beat. Who did I think we would beat? Well, I can't remember who I picked. Maybe it was Florida. I think it was Florida. But I picked this to go four night. I said we would steal An SEC game. I thought, you know, I thought the overrun. I think overrunner was four and a half or, you know, I thought that seemed right. But if we win six, to me, it's a success. Now it's weird because we're used to Kentucky seasons, if you remember, where we would win all the games at the beginning and then lose them at the end. We might have a weird year where, because we played Georgia and South Carolina and Ole Miss so early, where we lose all the games at the beginning and win at the end. So it's kind of strange.

[Caller]

With the parody that is now college football, where you have teams like Indiana being number two. You have.

[Matt Jones]

We don't know if that's going to.

[Caller]

Continue until the day.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we don't know if that's going to continue, though. I mean, I think. I think there's a chance it can, but I don't think that's certain because I think this is a period of time where programs are trying to figure out what works. And then once they figure out what works, you're going to see a dominant group of programs rise to the top. But it hasn't happened yet, which is why you've got this period where teams can make big moves.

[Caller]

I have, on the other hand, of getting rid of soups. I find it very tough that, you know, we can't come up with $36 million with our fan base and the money that we. We shell out for everything.

[Matt Jones]

We'll see. We'll see what happens. Let's see what happens here in a few weeks. I appreciate the call. The other thing to remember is, you know, I will note that one of the things people want, they want Billy, kind of a salary cap, right. For the nil. But here's the thing that will happen with the salary cap. Then I think you'll go back to where the tradition, programs and all that start to matter more. Right. Because everybody's paying the same amount of money.

[Caller]

Mm.

[Matt Jones]

Because in theory, before Nil, even though people were sliding money under the table, everybody was paying the same amount of money. Zero. And what happened? The same teams were good every year. So I don't know. I think this is. I agree with Mark Pope. It's a unique thing. We don't know what's going to happen. Let's do two more and we'll call it a night. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

Let's go to Ford.

[Matt Jones]

Ford, go ahead.

[Caller]

Hey, I haven't heard anybody give this guy flowers tonight. Bring on the thiefs burger jokes. But Aiden Laura had a Hell of a game he did.

[Matt Jones]

I should have said that. He had an awesome game and he flipped field position and they have a good punter. Auburn too, and we like that. You're exactly right. He deserves a lot of credit. Pinned him inside three times.

[Caller]

Five of them were within the 10 and the. The one that was not within the 10 was a 57 yard bomb on our side from our side of the field to put them on the 16 for that deserves a lot of bit there.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly.

[Caller]

Cam Miller for the punch out on the interception. He's. I think he's the MVP of the game. Anyway, he made them go a long way against our defense, which was playing really well. So.

[Matt Jones]

Anyway, appreciate the call. Oh, wait a minute. Go ahead. Sorry. I want to make it.

[Caller]

I want to. To remind everybody. People are going to say, well, oh, we only scored 10 points a M. Only scored 16. This is a. I mean, offers a top 10 defense in the country. A season's not over until the fat lady sings. Now, she might be warming up the vocal cords, but, I mean, we can. We want to. We won an SEC game. Let's be. Let's have a good time tonight. I mean, come on.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with you. Appreciate the call. She was walking on stage before this game and now she has to go back into her dressing room and let's see what happens. No, you're right. That's a good defense. You know, Kentucky's offense is struggled, but we have played in Georgia, Texas and Auburn. We have played three of the best defenses in the country. We have. And you know, I'm not gonna act like we scored a lot. We dominate against those defenses. We've played really good defenses when we play bad defenses. Tennessee, Ole Miss. We've actually scored a lot of points. I don't know what you call South Carolina. I was in South Africa. I didn't see that game, Billy. I'm acting like that game didn't happen. Who's next?

[Co-host Billy]

I think it's Hearts.

[Matt Jones]

Hearts will finish with you. What do you got?

[Caller]

Hey, buddy. First time, long time from the dirty borough.

[Tom Hart]

Who.

[Matt Jones]

What's up?

[Caller]

Hey. Go Kitty Cats. Man, that was an awesome game. Defense played great. Insane. I loved it. I loved it. I don't care about the Stoops crap. Just whatever. We just beat Auburn.

[Matt Jones]

All right. There you go.

[Caller]

I mean that. I love it. This is what it is. Clay Ford's looking at me right now. Sorry. This is awesome game. Bring on Tennessee. Tech. We want Tech. That's all I gotta say.

[Matt Jones]

Appreciate it.

[Caller]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. I think we said dirty borough. He meant Owensboro. We would never do that in Middlesborough. We're still celebrating our victory over Sayer last night.

[Co-host Billy]

Big victory. Pennington still the coach.

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[Matt Jones]

I mean that's probably Middlesbrough's biggest victory since we won the state title back In, I don't know, 99, I think. That or no. 01. No, it was not. Well, whatever it was the year after I graduated. 97 back since 97. I think that's the biggest one. You don't seem excited about it.

[Co-host Billy]

I'm not.

[Matt Jones]

We just beat all the, all those little preppy kids from Sayrey on their private jets and their caviar.

[Co-host Billy]

Nobody cheated this game.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, they may have. We didn't. Yeah, we won.

[Tom Hart]

I'm glad.

[Co-host Billy]

Yeah, that's what happens when nobody cheats.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's exactly right. They have a chubby. Listen, they're, they're. Watch out. Who knows, they could be playing in Kroger field. Hey, thank you all very much. I'm going to go to bed and get ready to take off and head towards Cincinnati in the morning. For Bears, Bengals and Cats in Texas are at 1 o' clock tomorrow. Cover zero tomorrow night. Still a lot of weekend to go. And next Saturday Kentucky and Florida under the lights with a chance to keep the momentum rolling. Kentucky wins on the Plains 10 to 3 against Auburn. We will see you later. This has been the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show.

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