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Matt Jones
Welcome everyone. It is the local toy dealers. KSR post game show the Cats beat Tennessee Tech 42 to 10 in Kroger Field in the final home game of the year Senior Day to bring their record to five and five and one win away from bowl eligibility. I'm here in Geneva, Ohio at the Corkscrew Taphouse. Is that the name of this place? That's it. Corkscrew Tap House with that's the name voice you heard is Drew Franklin. Billy R Sports Billy Rutledge is here. Mario is here too. He's taking pictures. We are on our way to Buffalo, New York but we stopped in Geneva, Ohio to do this show. They've been very nice here to us. And we have food, Diet Coke. Drew has a beer. Mario drank a cocktail in 3.3 seconds. And impressive. Billy is here as well. Drew Cats get a win and we are on our way to Buffalo.
Drew Franklin
Good win. I know some people had a little fear in the unbeaten Golden Eagles from Tex Tennessee Tech, but we saw rather quickly the difference in I guess just size and ability especially. I know we'll get to Bully's big day, but on that run he had we saw the disparity and why that game never was close.
Matt Jones
I think that the big difference in the game is in games like this is on the line, is on the line of scrimmage and Kentucky owned it. Especially on offense they kind of were able to run the ball at will. They got a first down. I mean they really were able to move the ball whenever they wanted. The only couple times they were stopped once they for some reason win a sweep on third and two, which is a bad call. Then they, I think they were stopped on fourth down once. When they went for it, they could have kicked a field goal. Otherwise they scored every time. The offense dominated, the defense dominated the first half. Second half they gave a couple drives but ultimately a nice win. A lot of guys got to play. Cutter Bowley looked great, really great. And now you got two games left in the year, chance to go to a bowl. Two of your the teams you kind of consider your rivals and two teams that have been good this year. So. So you win one of those could be a Great finish to the. To the season. 859-28-0-2287. We want to talk about it. We'll talk about the game. We can talk about the season, the program. Honestly, this is a Saturday night on a road trip where we're having fun. This is Billy's first road trip. He's had an epic performance so far. You know, he brought an old plastic orange suitcase that looks to be from the late 30s that you saw, like, grandma's carry.
Billy Rutledge
Vintage is what I would call it vintage.
Matt Jones
Also not the. You don't. I mean, I. I fly a lot. You don't even see those in airports ever. Like, usually if you were to see something like that, it usually means, like, it's either an old person or a crime being committed.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, this is a business trip for me, man. I'm just taking it to another level of safety.
Matt Jones
Have you ever thought about updating the technology for your bags?
Billy Rutledge
It's pretty updated. You can actually lock it. There's a key with it. So, I mean, it's.
Drew Franklin
I don't like what Samsonite's done with. With that.
Billy Rutledge
It's pretty high tech.
Drew Franklin
You know, if he were to take that on an airplane, I think they'll let you smoke. If you wear a suit and carry that bag, they'll be like, yeah, man, have a cigarette.
Matt Jones
They probably would let you smoke. You would. You would then get in trouble. You'd call the. The flight attendant doll. That's what.
Drew Franklin
You put a little pomade in your.
Matt Jones
Hair with the comb and that's Right. And then. But this was very nice, Billy. You, You. You know, we asked you to bring you snacks and you pack. This was very nice of you. But you packed a veggie tray, which is. Which very few. When four guys go on a road trip to see a NFL game, very rarely do you see a veggie tray. But you brought a veggie tray. Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
I'm very disappointed in your all's reaction to the veggie tray. Everybody loved it. I mean, the carrots were gone in a matter of seconds.
Matt Jones
I did like the carrots. Carrots went quick. I do like carrots.
Billy Rutledge
And Drew and Mario went online seconds later to blast me for bringing a veggie tray on the truck. You guys seem to enjoy it.
Drew Franklin
I don't think the response was going to be that bad.
Matt Jones
The response was bad. But you also had people. Like, one person wrote that you were a healthy king. Like, there were people who said that they like veggies. So, like, you know, it wasn't Universe, it was pretty much universal negativity on your suitcase, but it was not universal negativity on your veggie truck.
Billy Rutledge
Well, I didn't do it for the audience. I did it for me and us staying healthy. I mean, probably the only vegetable you'll eat on the trip.
Matt Jones
Probably. So.
Billy Rutledge
So you're welcome. And just wait until I bring out what's next in the bag.
Matt Jones
Oh yeah, well, there's more.
Billy Rutledge
Trust me, I got more.
Drew Franklin
We got have like a mystery bag.
Matt Jones
Cheese squares.
Billy Rutledge
No, you're not that lucky. Come on.
Drew Franklin
Is the bag the suitcase?
Matt Jones
Cuz, don't forget the code. We charcuterie.
Billy Rutledge
No, that. That was your charcuterie in the car there.
Drew Franklin
I will say Billy's been a good road trip companion.
Matt Jones
You've been talkative.
Drew Franklin
You know, he's only been a few hours.
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's been a change because normally it's Ryan in the front seat, the other guys in the back. I've had Drew in the front seat, had good conversations. We had the game on. On the. And then Billy was, you know, back there letting us know how things happened during the depression. And it's been, it's, it's, it's been, it's been great. Now let's talk about the game for a second. Cutter was excellent. Obviously the play everybody will focus on is when he ran over that guy. But just in general through for like 240 yards or something. Thought he made good decisions. Obviously it's not the best team in the world, but more good development from cutter and the announcers. The ESPN guys who I'd never heard of. Who were those guys?
Drew Franklin
Well, we had my guy, Rocky Boyman from the Titans. He was a linebacker at Notre Dame. He was the color anist, the play by play guy. Yeah, I couldn't tell you.
Matt Jones
Well, they were both very praiseworthy of Cutter. I thought it was a good performance.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think he had like three incompletions. I asked this tap room to give me an official box score. I like to hold on to it. They didn't have one. I think it was 18 for 21. That's got to help his percentage, which was already top five in the SEC. He's pushing 70% on the year. He's 67, 68.
Matt Jones
A lot of young receivers got. Kendrick Law was great. He's not young, but he. But one of our receivers then you know, D.J. miller had a good drive. Seth McGowan, three touchdowns. That's.
Drew Franklin
I don't think we talk enough about how good he's been. This Year, you know, he had the injury. But Stoops has always needed a good running back. And this one's been more of a stable when he got it. But that's an NFL running back. I think he's gonna have a chance to make a team. That dude's been great.
Matt Jones
Offensive line was excellent, like you want on third and one third and two easy first downs. They got those the whole game. We were in that situation a lot. They got it the whole game. Defense allowed one bad drive, but in general, I thought played well. You know, it was interesting. They kept acting like at some point Tennessee Tech would quit, but then they never really did. They kept playing their starters, and I thought Kentucky did really well. It was a good day. I mean, like, this is a good day. It's kind of like last night in the sense of, you know, it's a good weekend for Kentucky sports. It's not gonna. You're not gonna sit there and say, well, this is the best team that's ever existed. But you do what you're supposed to.
Billy Rutledge
Do, and so that's good, and take care of business. And now you set up an exciting end to the season. I mean, three weeks ago, you were dead in the water. Stoops was already out the door.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
And now there's a chance to get seven wins on the season.
Drew Franklin
I just remembered, I bet the over four and a half. Do they pay that out when it happens? That's five wins. Everybody made fun of me when I bet that. Look at us now.
Matt Jones
So, yeah, they did hit the over four. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Well, look who DraftKings paid out.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Look at you, rich guy.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Party on this all by the Cheese Curse.
Matt Jones
Scoop of Cheetos is on you, by the way. You know, you're not in the south when there's one television in here. They could only have one thing on at a time. And they all chose Cleveland Cavaliers basketball. Alabama's playing Oklahoma. No, we're not putting that on. It's Cleveland Cavs versus someone I don't even know.
Drew Franklin
Did I hear her say Alabama was on? And everyone demanded they change it to the.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that Alabama. Oklahoma was on. And then they said, no, someone in here requested the Cavs. This bar is a very nice bar, but it's very much a who. He who requests it gets it. So the Grizzlies and the Cavs are playing each other. If I was at home, those are the two teams that are blacked out for me. Oh, yeah, you can't watch the Grizzlies this May the Only time I see either team play.
Drew Franklin
That's why everybody's here to watch it all year long.
Matt Jones
Any other takeaways for you from the game?
Billy Rutledge
We. Well, not from the game. From the road trip. Because, honestly, I barely watched the game. But you did a u turn as soon as we got in the car. I mean, I was ready for my U turn counter, and we did it pretty early.
Matt Jones
I got my coat at home. I don't want to go to Buffalo without a jacket. So we had to turn around and get the. Get the coat. We got it. We made good time. By the way, we are north of Cleveland now. Only have about two hours left. And I thought we'd be getting home, getting there like, midnight. We're gonna get there like 9, 9:30.
Drew Franklin
Gonna have a little Buffalo time.
Matt Jones
Yeah. It's gonna be other time for Buffalo hit the streets.
Billy Rutledge
We would have been here even earlier if we didn't have to wait for Mario and his McRib earlier today.
Matt Jones
It's true. Mario st. We stop. We're like, everybody, let's go jump in the gas station, get something quick. And Mario orders a mcrib. And, you know, they had to go and, like, slaughter a calf in order to. To be able to get it. So that took us a little bit of a detour. But nevertheless, we are here.
Billy Rutledge
Did you not enjoy the veggie tray?
Matt Jones
I like carrot. It's just not what I expected. It's not when we get in the car, I usually expect, okay, I'm gonna eat poorly this weekend. Like, the last two or three days before we left, I ate a little better than I normally do because I was like, I'm gonna have my nerd gummy clusters. You know, I'm gonna probably eat a lot of wings. So I'm gonna just, like, I'm gonna space out and then have a bad food when we walk in. And you're. You know, you have radishes. It's just not what I was expecting.
Billy Rutledge
Little ranch. I mean, you got something to dip in.
Matt Jones
It was. I mean, it wasn't the ranch so much. It was. It was the. All the green. It's just not something I saw.
Drew Franklin
Broccoli's got a little bit of a smell, and you don't really notice it until you're in a closed space. But I'm not hating Billy. That was my first vegetable in months, so I appreciate it.
Matt Jones
Broccoli did have a little bit of a smell.
Drew Franklin
No, no, I.
Matt Jones
You added. You. So the car just smells a little bit different.
Drew Franklin
Part of this is the road trip is new to you. Yeah, but you're also new to us on the road. We're used to Ryan up in the front and Shannon. Like, we're still learning everything.
Matt Jones
I mean, there's a. There's a decent. Drew and I have probably spent. Drew's Worked for KSR for 17 years in some form. Drew and I have probably spent of those 17 years, half a year on the road together. I mean, we've probably spent literally half a year on the road. And so we know each other. Like, we know you have added a wild Mario, too, but you've added a wild car. Vegetables have never seen that car. No one has ever brought a vegetable into our presence. And it's just like we're having to get used to it.
Billy Rutledge
Well, I'm happy to be aboard with you guys. I'm having a good time. We're gonna hit the town tonight, right, Drew?
Drew Franklin
Yes, we absolutely are. After I get through these delicious. This delicious food, here I am only eating buffalo wings until I'm back in Lexington. 9am Bring me Buffalo wings. Noon, 6. Every meal.
Billy Rutledge
And the speed in which Mario drank that cocktail. When we sat down, I knew that tonight was probably. We're gonna get into the.
Matt Jones
We are here at the house. I mean. Oh, what's the name of this place?
Drew Franklin
That's our Airbnb.
Matt Jones
What's the name of the corner? Cornerstone. Right. Cornerstone. That's. I think that's what I said, the Cornerstone. Corkscrew. Corkscrew Taphouse. You can see how I got. Yeah. The other day. Corkscrew Tap House in Geneva, Ohio. It's right off the interstate, right on the lake.
Drew Franklin
This is like their touristy town.
Matt Jones
So I would like for. If you have information about Geneva, Ohio, I'd like it. I already have our first piece of information. This got sent to me. This is amazing. Okay. This is a Geneva, Ohio thing. This is amazing. On April 12, 1966, the town of Geneva declared itself lunar Ownership. The city put out a proclamation that contained 35 signatures that said it was claiming physical ownership of the moon, the citizens of Ohio. The proclamation says, quote, physical property. The moon shall belong exclusively to the citizens of Geneva, Ohio. And any unfriendly acts upon the city will be responded to with all human dignity. With human dignity and moral circumspection for also being indecent acts towards the moon. The city claimed the right to rent.
Drew Franklin
The moon.
Matt Jones
To visitors. And a two thirds vote of the city population provided all citizens a hundred acres of land on the moon. Wow.
Drew Franklin
What made them think they could do that. I respect it.
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Drew Franklin
Do they just look up one day.
Matt Jones
If you think about it, people who came to America just said, this is ours. Right? There was no court that said when they came to the Jamestown colony, it was theirs. They just decreed, this is ours. So the people of Geneva, Ohio decreed that over the moon. And they hadn't even been.
Drew Franklin
It was remote.
Billy Rutledge
Well, nobody had at that point, so.
Matt Jones
Exactly. So you have to give them credit for their gumption. They held a vote in this city and two thirds of the city just decided, we own the moon. Now.
Drew Franklin
Was there any pushback from anyone else or did everyone like, whatever, let Geneva be crazy.
Matt Jones
It would be funny though, if one day because at some point there might be a dispute over who owns the moon.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Elon's on the goes to the.
Matt Jones
Supreme Court and they say it looks like Geneva, Ohio.
Drew Franklin
This has been done years ago, guys.
Billy Rutledge
35 signatures. I mean, that's more than you have.
Matt Jones
How many signatures do you all have?
Drew Franklin
So like it? Well, that's our first fact getting to start.
Matt Jones
We're going to find a better fact than that one. So we are here in Geneva, Ohio. We are on the road. We will take a break, take your calls. Feel free to talk about basketball or football. Who cares, right? It's. It's we. We beat Tennessee Tech 42 to 10. This is the local Toyota Dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is a local toy dealers KSR postgame show. We're going to take you up to 7 o' clock when they're kicking us out for music. If you want to text, keep me up to date on Alabama. Oklahoma. That'd be nice. I can tell you that Memphis leads Cleveland by eight. But I don't think I'm going to be able to know what happens in Oklahoma. Alabama just great.
Drew Franklin
College football slate tonight.
Matt Jones
Exactly right. One person says, Matt, I'm glad to see in the picture you're letting Drew eat on the trip. Yes, we did, actually.
Drew Franklin
I haven't eaten. I had one pretzel.
Matt Jones
Another person writes, billy Suitcase look like it came through Ellis Island. It'll.
Billy Rutledge
It'll be here long after we're gone too.
Matt Jones
I'm sorry.
Drew Franklin
It is the same tonight.
Matt Jones
Good. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you this is gonna be. This is not gonna be the most X and O postgame show we've ever had.
Billy Rutledge
I think understandable.
Drew Franklin
If it were up to me, we would do this every time. It just got nasty outside.
Matt Jones
Is it raining?
Drew Franklin
Glad we didn't do the show outside.
Matt Jones
859-280-2287. Also another. Are you ready for another fact about. I can't get enough facts about Geneva. Geneva was in the early 19th century. Excuse me, 20th century, early 1900s. A. A lake destination for the wealthy of America. The Rockefellers used to summer here.
Drew Franklin
Oh, okay. That's big time. I mean the lake is right here. Were they part of the moon owning. Is that the world?
Matt Jones
One person writes. Matt, what's a 50 year interest rate for 100 acres on the moon? You may be around some rich people right now. It's true. They don't. Yeah, I mean they don't look it but you know, rich people don't necessarily have to show their money.
Drew Franklin
Especially when you're on the moon. I, when I looked this place up online, it was, it was giving Gatlinburg of Ohio very touristy.
Matt Jones
But we haven't, we're not in downtown.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, we didn't go go to that part.
Matt Jones
The Shane get Beamer get fired after South Carolina was up 30 to 3 at halftime and he was taunting the A and M fans going into the locker room and then they lost 31 30.
Drew Franklin
That was so wild. I mean he would have been better off just going there and losing, just.
Matt Jones
Trailing the whole game if they had lost 31 14. He'd be better off than what happened.
Drew Franklin
If you search his name on Twitter, it's actually a fun read. If you go back to the beginning of the game because there's a bunch of people praising him, he's off the hot seat, they're back and at the end of the game, gotta go. Absolutely not. That game was bananas though with the.
Matt Jones
And is that that video real of him telling the fans to.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, if you saw it, I guess there was a lot of South Carolina people around but I mean he's still, you know, on the road doing that at halftime. And then I saw.
Matt Jones
What do you make of.
Drew Franklin
Before that game, the SEC was 2870 when a team led by 27 points.
Matt Jones
What do you make of the. Of the cop there with the, with the South Carolina player.
Billy Rutledge
That was crazy. And then I saw that he was dismissed from his game day duties.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they made sure to say it too. So everybody knew.
Billy Rutledge
Well, it looked intentional for people haven't seen it.
Matt Jones
This cop like bumps into a player. The cop bumps into him and looks at the player and goes like, what are you doing?
Drew Franklin
Well, it's two South Carolina players looking at each other and he splits them like they're not even looking Forward. He's at fault and he raises his arm on both of them and then scolds them. Yeah, there's no question who's at fault there.
Matt Jones
He's. So what is he doing? That was.
Drew Franklin
I mean, you're.
Matt Jones
That was. That was.
Drew Franklin
You can't handle your football team being down. I don't know if you're in the right profession there, sir.
Matt Jones
All right, who's up first? Gavin Dennis. Enrichment. Go ahead.
Caller
Hey, got about three quick questions for you, Matt Warren, is what's your feeling on the next two games? Is Louisville. I'm sure you've seen the comments by their quarterback saying that. That they got closer to problems and it can only be fixed in the off season. What's your take on that?
Matt Jones
Oh, did he say that? I did not see that. Did he say that? I didn't.
Caller
Yes, he said that. I actually. I actually seen the. I actually seen the interview when he said it post.
Matt Jones
Okay, see, I didn't know that. I didn't know.
Drew Franklin
That's actually word for word what he said.
Matt Jones
There's a culture thing and an offseason thing that's going to need to be addressed. Wow. That's amazing. Cuz his fans, the. The Louisville fans don't like him, so that's interesting. I didn't know that. I think they're both beatable. To answer your question, Dennis, I think. I think Vandy and Louisville are both beatable. We're going to be an underdog in both games, Dennis. But I think we have a shot. I mean, I think Louisville probably a better shot again than Vandy. But you heard the announcers say they actually think we match up pretty well with Vandy. So I guess we'll wait and see. Is.
Caller
Is running. Is Louisville's running back Ashley Brown, Is he out for the year?
Matt Jones
If he is, I mean, he played last night, didn't he? Am I. I mean, I did. He did. So I. I don't know. Again, you may know more about all this than I do because I have not seen any Louisville news today. So I appreciate the call. We'll look up and see if Isaac Brown's out, but I just. I'm watching. I'm seeing the Miller Mall quad. That's a bad quote.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'd say so. Usually that's something you'd want to keep to yourself and handle internally, but it seems like he's over his Louisville experience and airing that out.
Matt Jones
We have a culture problem that's gonna need to be addressed in the off season. What might be addressed by they don't have him.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, right?
Drew Franklin
It's like they don't have anything to play for. You still got your rivalry game coming up, too. I would not want my quarterback saying those things.
Matt Jones
The top two tweets I see are the quote and then a woman named Jen saying, I will not attend another game where Miller Moss is on the roster.
Drew Franklin
So you can't lose Jen. That's. That's tough for a little. Add that to the list.
Matt Jones
Well, so there you go. I don't know. That's. We got a shot. I think we have a shot against Vandy. Do you?
Drew Franklin
Yes. And I was gonna say, honestly, right now, would you rather be Kentucky having fun getting momentum on the road in that game or Louisville just collapsing and terrified Kentucky will come in and beat you?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I don't know. Apparently, Waka Flocka Flame was at the game today, and he was taking pictures with kids. He would ask them a math question, and if they got it correctly, he would take a picture.
Drew Franklin
Well, that's good. I know he has a concert in Lexington tonight, and I'm glad they got him over the field. It didn't look like he was a part of, you know, the intro or anything like he did the time before, but good to have him around.
Matt Jones
Right there next to my house today. He's at Manchester Music Hall.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, is that right?
Drew Franklin
Does he know they didn't play a song the first game? Do you think he came to just check things over, like, we good?
Matt Jones
What's the problem here, by the way? They. They called Lake Geneva's shoreline smoke on the water. Every guitar player learns this riff.
Billy Rutledge
I know it.
Matt Jones
Interesting, you know, Here we go.
Billy Rutledge
You give me a guitar, I could do the water right now.
Drew Franklin
Here we go.
Matt Jones
And it's. And it's about Geneva.
Drew Franklin
There's a band setting up right now.
Matt Jones
Connection to Geneva and that and that guitar.
Billy Rutledge
I don't know that, but I could tell you that is what every beginner.
Matt Jones
The Rockefellers apparently vacationed in Wisconsin at Lake Geneva. So that was just made up. Do not tell me the moon thing is made up. I'm going with that. Who's next?
Billy Rutledge
Nate.
Matt Jones
Go ahead, Nate. Yeah. Guys.
Caller
How you all doing?
Matt Jones
Doing good.
Caller
Good, good. So I just wanted to mention I did send in a couple texts. What about the. Was it 32 graduate seniors they had on their team today, which I totally proud of those guys. They came in, showed out, so on, so forth. But what I really want to get to is, like, Kendrick Law, his family. I got to meet them today. Super great People, I just so wish we could have got Cutter Bowley earlier in that Ole Miss game. So literally so he could prove himself, so on and so forth. And then I have to mention that my brother's about to be with Bobob this week doing an audit with his company. And shout out Middlesbrough.
Drew Franklin
All right.
Matt Jones
Yes. Say, tell Bob I say hello.
Caller
Hey, Bobob's my guy. First time, long time. Been listening to this show religiously for 12 years and my heart is beating extra of ass right now.
Matt Jones
Well, thank you. That's very nice of you. Means a lot. Appreciate it. Who off to? To that as well. Thank you very much. And say hi to Boba. Kendrick Law played well tonight. I. There is a part of me that wishes the version of Kentucky you see now you could have seen at the beginning of the year, including playing Cutter Bowley, but also using Kendrick Law more. I mean, it's just. It's a different group now.
Drew Franklin
You know, that's part of my frustration. Even though they won, like, I don't know anything about evaluating a quarterback. I don't go to practices. But I did get invited to two, and I immediately ran back. Was like, Bowie looked better in Calzada both days. So I just. I know you have the commitment and there's politics there, but I do wonder what it would look like if he had had the reins from the beginning and not just in the first game camp with the ones being the leader in the locker room. It could have changed everything.
Matt Jones
Do you see these people, Mario, looking at me like, what are they doing? Are they making fun of our moon ownership?
Drew Franklin
You think you heard them.
Billy Rutledge
As long as you don't turn the calves.
Matt Jones
Are they questioning?
Drew Franklin
Is it right over my left shoulder?
Matt Jones
Yeah, they are staring us. They're staring a hole through us right now. It's like. And they look like, you know, when they go to that. When they go to that restaurant in Dumb and Dumber.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah. Well, he walks in, he goes, we landed on the moon.
Matt Jones
Those guys come over from the booth. It's looking a little bit like that.
Drew Franklin
They don't know they're messing with a guy that's had broccoli and carrots today. I'm looking for trouble.
Matt Jones
Who's next? Jacob. Go ahead, Jacob.
Caller
And that two things. I thought that Stoops comments after the game about preparing for the future and using Ward and some other guys in the second half. I thought it was just interesting, you know, it didn't sound as if he's a guy that has a foot out the door. It sounds like he's you know, I agree with you.
Matt Jones
It was interesting because it's. It's a little different than the comments he made a week or two ago. But he did talk about preparing for the future seeing guys. I think he tried to play both of the freshman quarterback. We did quarterbacks. We didn't get a second possession for Stone Saunders or is as Ryan called him Storm Sanders to get to play. But. But yeah, you're right. It did sound like a guy not necessarily planning on stepping away. Yeah.
Caller
Then second thing. I just find it funny that if Louisville were to lose out and if we were to win out then we would both be 7 and 5 at the end.
Matt Jones
That would be.
Caller
That's kind of interesting.
Matt Jones
That would be absolutely amazing. I appreciate the call. It really would. If. If we were to win out and they were to lose out and we would have the same record and the tiebreaker over them. We.
Drew Franklin
Who would have predicted that History's on our side. It's been like decades since they've won both. Do you same season, same year.
Matt Jones
Are you. Does the fact that we're now 5 and 5, does that make the Texas game even more frustrating?
Drew Franklin
A little bit. And what we were just saying about what could have this been if you know in the beginning of camp Bowley has the locker room and in practices he's with the ones. Maybe you win the Ole Miss game. One of those other ones. But Texas especially where you're on the one yard line and you have a guy where you went out to punch it in from the one yard line and you can't do it.
Matt Jones
What are you doing by the way? You've been on stop.
Billy Rutledge
I was looking for Geneva facts.
Matt Jones
But do you have any facts? No. I think you have all of Google. And the only fact is the moon thing. Well like it's nobody's from here. There's got to be somebody from here.
Drew Franklin
I did look at the notable people. They didn't.
Billy Rutledge
It was like somebody from Malcolm in the Middle was about the only.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And like one NFL player there was.
Matt Jones
Somebody from Malcolm in the Middle.
Billy Rutledge
Yes.
Matt Jones
All right. Well that's worth something.
Billy Rutledge
And it's the heart of wine country.
Drew Franklin
I don't believe that for one second. Ohio's wine country.
Billy Rutledge
The heart of it.
Matt Jones
Well, this is the heart of wine country. I'm kidding.
Drew Franklin
It feels like Napa.
Matt Jones
I used to to always hear about the northeast Ohio wine. It's here.
Drew Franklin
The French countryside.
Matt Jones
You get Napa, France, Portugal, Cleveland. 859-280-2287 who's next what you got?
Drew Franklin
The founder of the Oldsmobile car is the best on the notable people.
Matt Jones
That's good Ransom Olds. They still make olds.
Drew Franklin
And a YouTuber.
Matt Jones
I remember my grandfather when he got an Oldsmobile like he was re. Like he was really proud of that. That was, that was a vehicle that was a big time vehicle. They still.
Drew Franklin
Billy probably has one in the car. Probably brought it with a suitcase.
Matt Jones
That suitcase came with an Oldsmobile in 61. All right, go ahead. Who's next? Billy. Go ahead, Billy. Hey.
Caller
It wasn't today just refreshing because you know, my family's had season tickets for 40 years and how many times have we come into a game like this and you know, either it's way closer than it should be or heaven forbid, some years we've lost it. And you know, I saw more people. I saw a bunch of kids down there at the breezeway getting pictures taken by the 101 members with the stadium in the background. I mean it just. It seemed like a really great atmosphere tonight. And it was one that this is what we should do against teams like this. And I was glad to see that that's how that this, that's how this game turned out.
Matt Jones
Totally agree with you that, that I think that's a great way to put it. I, I appreciate the call. This is how games like this should go. And it did. And that's not taken. I mean there was a time where people thought earlier in the year we could lose this game and now it was never really in jeopardy. That's good to see and I'm glad.
Drew Franklin
To hear the turnout was pretty good. And you're right. Even we mentioned this on the pregame show. It's felt like a lot of kids at this game. I know it's a game, you know, if you're a season ticket holder, you go to all of. Maybe you pass it off to people don't get to go. But I'm guessing it was a lot of fans that aren't normally in there enjoying today.
Matt Jones
Smoke on the water is from Switzerland. Geneva. So that's now two facts.
Drew Franklin
They just claim all Geneva facts.
Matt Jones
Anything that happens at any Geneva, the convention that was not.
Drew Franklin
They have it here.
Matt Jones
The Geneva Convention that's. Was that World War II, right? I think so. Well, guess what? It didn't. Don't claim it here. You only get the moon in Geneva.
Billy Rutledge
Ohio, you don't get the big couple decades there.
Matt Jones
859-280-2287 Let me get the. You just say the name so I don't screw it up again. What the name of this place?
Billy Rutledge
Oh, Corkscrew Tap House.
Matt Jones
Corkscrew Tap House. We are gonna take a break and be right back. It's the local toy dealers KSR post kick show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. We're in Geneva, Ohio, not far from Mark Stoop's hometown of Youngstown, on our way to Buffalo tonight. We'll be driving through some rain. It looks like is. It looks like what? Did Oklahoma just kick a field goal?
Billy Rutledge
Alabama did.
Matt Jones
Alabama so 24, 20. 24, 20. Oklahoma over. Excuse me. Alabama over. Oklahoma. We've got it on a phone here. We're not on it. Billy, put it on the phone. So we have that calves down 7. Cabs are down 7. Don't worry, that's on every television. They do not make Oldsmobiles anymore.
Drew Franklin
Okay.
Matt Jones
I mean, that's an interesting fact, isn't it? Yeah, sure. And one person writes. Matt, I love to hear you all this happy. I hope you have a great time. Text machine, by the way. 772770 45254. We are having a great time and this is a quick trip. I mean, we'll be done Monday, but tomorrow we'll be there at Orchard Park. We're staying very close to the stadium. I'm doing my ESPN show from there and Billy allegedly has a bar for us to do the show app. We'll find out in the morning if that happens.
Billy Rutledge
Before and after. I've got two different bars ready for us, so should be a good time.
Matt Jones
I'm impressed.
Drew Franklin
You know, we keep playing up the Bills thing, but I'm excited for Billy to see his bucks, too. I know this is a Bills experience. Experience. But you probably don't get C Tampa very often, right?
Billy Rutledge
It is.
Drew Franklin
It is.
Billy Rutledge
And going into the locker room is going to be a fun experience. You know, are we only going into the winning team's locker room?
Matt Jones
I mean, this is a big deal for us, too, because we haven't really talked about it. This is our first time producing content for the NFL beyond the podcast. So, like, we have to do a good job. This is kind of our tryout to see if we get to go to the Super Bowl. I think.
Drew Franklin
Do you think they would want me through a table or not want me through.
Matt Jones
I think they'd want you through a table.
Drew Franklin
Noted.
Matt Jones
I. I mean, you guys are going to have to do a lot of this. I mean, I. Because I'm doing the ESPN show, I'm not going to get to Go to the tailgate lot. So a lot of kind of the future of COVID zero is down to you three knuckleheads. And I hope you're going to be able to do it.
Drew Franklin
There was ever an assignment I can handle. I think this is it.
Billy Rutledge
Okay, well, we'll find pinto bean Ron and you know, do the ketchup and mustard thing.
Matt Jones
I trust.
Drew Franklin
Should we do, you know my show me your tents that I used to do at UK but that got old because I saw every tailgate in Lexington. Now I could bring it to Buffalo.
Matt Jones
I think it's a great idea. I think whatever we do, you know that their. Their rule was don't spend more than $5,000.
Drew Franklin
That won't be an issue.
Matt Jones
And I got the most expensive house in Buffalo. And we still have $3,000 left.
Billy Rutledge
And there'll still be a bunk bed in there that you're going to sleep on.
Matt Jones
Yeah. You are sleeping on a bunk bed, though. Just for the record, I need you.
Drew Franklin
To understand, there have been trips for. I didn't have a bed at all. So. You should be thrilled. You have options. You have high.
Matt Jones
Slept in a bathtub one night in the tub. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
There was one year I just said, well, I'll see you at 8am and I just left and stayed out all night.
Matt Jones
So.
Drew Franklin
So enjoy your bunk bed. You have options. High, Low.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Who's up next? Jackson. Go ahead, Jackson.
Caller
Hey, Matt. I'm thinking that most of them that are looking at you are probably just wanting to see if Billy has some more fruit that he'll give them, honestly.
Matt Jones
But it's probably true.
Caller
But of course, really happy from the game the other team played. Well, they killed him. That's all you can be happy about. I mean, nothing to be negative about at all. But the one thing I found funny, did you notice the coach for Tennessee Tech wearing a hoodie of his. Of his son that is on the team? And what did you think about that?
Matt Jones
Well, it was Senior Day and. Or well, I mean, I guess it wasn't Senior Day, but it was there. He was honoring his son. I guess you're on the SEC network. I was okay with it. I mean, they did say about 50 times that was his son. And they kept saying it like new people were tuning into the game and hadn't heard him say. All of you just joining us from three minutes ago. But you know, I didn't think. I. I appreciate the call. I didn't think it. I think it's better like if a dad wears the shirt of his son I think that's kind of like a proud moment. I think it'd be weirder if the son wore the dad unless he was, like, retiring, but I was fine with it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, there's something about this level. You know, if it was like the Alabama coach wearing his sons, I don't know, it would feel different. But they're playing in the sec. It's.
Matt Jones
Even though they don't want to play.
Drew Franklin
It, it's a big deal to them.
Billy Rutledge
And he already stuck his foot in his mouth with the comments of, you know, I didn't even want to play this game versus Kentucky. That was the stupidest.
Matt Jones
Pretty hard for a game they didn't want to be in. I felt like. Like, you know, I mean, they were. I think if we had. If. If. If we had stopped them when it was 21 nothing, they might have just not played in the second half. But then they scored, and so then I felt like they had to keep.
Drew Franklin
They threatened a couple times. I mean, they had the miss chip shot, field goal. They were down the red zone. Their quarterback had that wild run where he went into end y. He's good, but it's just too much.
Matt Jones
Enjoying the beer taps over there?
Drew Franklin
Pretty good. I like a local fair. This is the. The place for those that can't see us, which would be everyone. You. They have the bracelets where you pour your own. I like those. Try a little ounce here, a little 2 ounces there. Or do what Mario did and just chug your drink.
Matt Jones
Do it. Mario did order a fruity cocktail and finish it in 13 seconds. We. We literally cut him off because it's a long night, and I've been with drunk, giggling Mario on trips, and you have to. You have to slow him down.
Drew Franklin
We don't want that broccoli coming back up.
Matt Jones
Who's up next?
Billy Rutledge
I'll take care of them.
Matt Jones
James. Go ahead, James.
Caller
Hey, what's going on, guys? I just have two questions. First, this weekend for the Tech machine, do I just send the fax to Billy or.
Matt Jones
That's exactly right. Just send him a fax and, yeah, he should be able to get it.
Drew Franklin
Second.
Caller
Second question. I hate to bring this up, hate to put you all on the spot.
Matt Jones
But it seems like what we spent.
Caller
On Calzada is more or less kind of a sunken cost at this point.
Matt Jones
I think that's probably about a great.
Caller
Pass rusher or something else. So in your estimate, what do you think was the cost to bring Calzada here over? Boli?
Matt Jones
I've heard. I appreciate the call like 1.5 million.
Drew Franklin
I saw someone report that recently. I don't know that I believe that. I heard in his recruitment that he still might not get as much as Bowie. He didn't have any options.
Matt Jones
Like, yeah, he wasn't. I mean, I bet he's, I bet I, I would be surprised if it was less than a million. I mean, quarterbacks in the sec, that's just what they make. So it is a sunk cost. But I mean, I think we have to, this is part of the adjustment in, in, in fans minds we're going to have to have. Because this is going to probably happen every year, right. You're going to go get somebody and then they're not going to pan out. And you can either sit there and say, coaches, I think, have to be very careful that they don't play guys because of how much money they get. Right. Because they're going to be times like in this case where you just, you did it, you got it wrong. And I give Mark Stoops credit. He moved on quickly.
Commercial Announcer
Right.
Matt Jones
I mean, he, he. If it was a sunk cost. I like that phrase. He just said, well, okay, let's keep going.
Drew Franklin
Because he's a football coach. In the middle of the game, you're not thinking about your budget.
Matt Jones
Shouldn't be.
Drew Franklin
You paid that money. They're on campus for doing it. Make sure they get whatever you promised them. We got games to win.
Matt Jones
I think that's the key, is that you just, you treat it like a poker hand. I mean, when you play poker, you don't sit there and think about the bad decisions that led you to this spot. You have to think about what's best to do in this spot. And the biggest mistake people make playing poker is thinking about what they wish they had done before. And so I'm. This is going to happen, though, every year. I mean, we're always going to probably get a guy that we shouldn't have paid that much. And you still got to go play the right guy. I mean, Jeremy Macklin, I mean, he's given a. Jeremy Macklin, made a lot of money, hadn't really worked out, but they're still playing the young guys.
Drew Franklin
Well, people focus on Calzada. There are guys making a lot of.
Matt Jones
Money who haven't even played at all.
Drew Franklin
There are plenty of people on that roster have full pockets that didn't even. Haven't done anything.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
And quarterback, regardless, you'll probably have to overpay some just because of the position. But a guy like Cutter Bowley should be paid Handsomely.
Matt Jones
He's earned it at this point, by the way. I was right. You corrected me and said Alabama kicked the field goal. It was. It was Oklahoma. So I said Oklahoma kicked the field goal and you went. No, it was Alabama, but it was Oklahoma.
Billy Rutledge
Ah, they're both red.
Matt Jones
I love that you do that sometimes.
Billy Rutledge
What's that?
Matt Jones
You give me a vocal correction, but you're wrong.
Billy Rutledge
Well, you know, I thought I was right at the time.
Drew Franklin
That's all I got to say.
Matt Jones
I rely on you for facts.
Drew Franklin
Can you even play Smoke on the river or whatever that was?
Billy Rutledge
I can.
Drew Franklin
What can we believe over there?
Billy Rutledge
No, that's like one of the first things you learn on guitar.
Matt Jones
How's it go? I've heard that that's Smoke on the River. Okay. I didn't know that's what that was. All right, who's next? Nick from Lexington, go ahead. 859-280-2287.
Caller
Hey, Matt. I'll be quick. You know, how funny is it gonna be when the end of the season we go up against Miller Moss, Jeff Braum, I love it. Ruin their season, even though it's already ruined because they're a trash organization. But we beat them by at least 13 points. And then you know what? Soup's lifetime contract. Also, don't give Billy as much of a hard time. I'll hang up.
Matt Jones
Thank you. Appreciate the call. I can't promise the last one, but it would be. I mean, it would be awesome if we ended up winning this game, right?
Drew Franklin
Oh, it is heading for that direction. The way things have changed. Leave aside the basketball and them getting one up on us, Kentucky has found momentum. They are playing with confidence. They are playing with swagger. And you've got Louisville's quarterback sitting in a press conference sounding like he wants the season in. And there's turmoil behind the scenes.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Big Blue Ollie says, will Billy put up the post game show tonight on podcast or cassette tape?
Drew Franklin
It won't be this the whole trip, Billy. Oh, it will.
Matt Jones
It's a really good line. I feel like both of you should have laughed harder at that one for Molly.
Billy Rutledge
I'm just still reeling from the Oklahoma Alabama score that I gave wrong. You say it confidently enough and it sounds.
Matt Jones
It's true. I believed you were correct. Ian says, hey, Matt, you're going to get great wings in Buffalo, but I want to tell you, since the new opening, the wings at KSBAR are just as good. That's very nice.
Drew Franklin
Got lots of compliments on the new food.
Matt Jones
The new food has. I mean, it has improved the place a lot. Who's up next? Justin. Go ahead, Justin.
Caller
Hey, guys. How y' all doing?
Matt Jones
What's going on?
Caller
I was. Y' all were talking about the shoulda, coulda, woulda with Texas. Obviously, Stoops has been the most successful coach we've had, but you think of all the wins that that's happened over his career, and most of them been against good teams. It's kind of crazy to think about that he's been the most successful coach and there's a lot of wins that we've left out there.
Matt Jones
That's true. That's true. And you know, early in his career, he actually didn't do a good job at close games. But then in the last five or six years, he kind of flipped that, and we actually did a pretty good job at close games. So my guess is, if you were to look at his career, we've probably won about as many as we should have. Early in his career, he did drop a lot of close ones, but that's flipped. I mean, you take this year. Yes, you know, we could have beaten Texas, but we also could have lost Auburn. Right. So, I mean, you know, but. But I think this year with Texas especially, it was right there. So I think that's why we feel that way.
Caller
Y' all have a safe trip.
Matt Jones
Thank you very much. 859-280-2287. Someone who would know tells me that the Calzada deal was base of 750,000 with incentives that could go up to 2 million. Probably ended up around 900,000 if he doesn't play more.
Drew Franklin
I wasn't going to throw out the number I heard in the fall, but I heard around 650. So that's right at 7. So I'm gonna believe that. I don't believe the 1.0.
Matt Jones
When you heard the 1.5, it would be if he started every game during the year.
Drew Franklin
Opportunity.
Matt Jones
Yeah. An opportunity thing. I don't know to what extent. I've often wondered how. To what extent is that done? Probably should be done right now. There are no rules about these things. So conceivably the contract can look however you want it to, you know, And.
Drew Franklin
Calzada told us on media day on KSR when Kentucky called, I was probably just gonna go try the leak. It's not like his phone was ringing off the hook. So if you overpaid the cow didn't have another offer, that'd be a horrible look. That's why I have a hard time believing it's A big number.
Billy Rutledge
Right. A million dollars for a guy that hasn't had much of a career.
Matt Jones
I mean, journeys giving us. He's giving us a slogan for all time. Garrett, get your money right.
Drew Franklin
That'll T shirts out now.
Matt Jones
That'll. That. That'll live on. And it's going. You know what's gonna be funny is, what if we, like, what if we win the last two games? And that's, like, seen as the. I mean, you could point to that as kind of the turning point of, like, UK football popularity. Like, it would be. It would be amazing if we finish 7:5 and Garrett, get your money right becomes a thing that people are just like. It's almost a positive.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. We saw Cutter Bowley do the money dance with Calzada right after it happened. So they seemed to embrace it. And so it could have been the turning point.
Drew Franklin
I'm going to be mean, but if we had half of a marketing department in UK athletics, you could do a billboard, like, help us get our money up for our collective. Like, we're getting our money up for. You know, stuff like that. There's all kinds of clever ideas you need to lean into. Sure, you didn't want Calzada doing it, but now the fans are chanting it, the players are doing it. Kentucky for Kentucky made T shirts. Just go all in. And make it a part of the UK brand, too. Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, you know, an example of this is. I'm sure, like, Donald Trump didn't want to be arrested, but once he was and it was there, they ended up making that mug shot a thing. I'm not saying this is exactly the same thing, but, like, might as well. It's already there. Like, everybody's already seen it. And just a little nod.
Drew Franklin
I mean, you have to yell, gary, get your. Mitch Barnhart doesn't need to be saying it, but just a little nod to the. To that it happened and because fans have really now embraced it.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think that's what you have to do in today's. In today's world.
Drew Franklin
I said in the.
Matt Jones
What did he just say, that guy? So, okay, so he wasn't mad. All right, all right. I just want to make sure. Because these folks have been nice at the Cox Corkscrew, you know, Ale House.
Drew Franklin
I was about to add at the Florida game, I was walking on the concourse. People with fake literally brought fake, like Monopoly money to the game. There were signs in the tailgate lot. Now, if you got. Your fans have latched onto something, might.
Matt Jones
As well, because what else were they latching on. I mean, we weren't latching on to anything for a long time, which was.
Drew Franklin
Part of the problem.
Matt Jones
859-280-2287. We are going to take a break, Come back. We are here in Geneva, Ohio, home of the rock and roll start the Rockefellers, the moon, it's all here. Be right back. It's the local Toyota dealers, KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. I have to say, you know, sometimes in the era of, like, everybody sending messages on social media and even the text machine, it can, like, you know, you can get frustrated, people are always arguing, etc. But there is, in the early days of KSR, a lot of the communication we got during the show was really funny because we didn't have a ton of listeners. And so the people who communicated with us were really funny. Especially on the old, old show thread on ksr, remember a long time ago. So I will say sometimes on night, like nights like tonight, I remember there are still a lot of people I think are really funny that are listening to this. And there are two lines I really like everybody else. It's that they're so specific. One person writes, you know, I have Ryan's cell phone number and sometimes I text him, could you give me Billy's pager or something? And I also love this. Billy's suitcase looks like he should be getting off a bus at a stop and opening it and pulling out a harmonic of the flavor coins. I don't know why I think that's so funny. I actually think that's a really funny. Because it does kind of look like you're a drifter.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Like you're coming to a city looking for work.
Billy Rutledge
I am traveling. I just needed a good bag, a good briefcase.
Drew Franklin
I like it, Billy. I feel bad I'm the one that put out the veggie. I didn't know the veggie reaction was going to be one tenth of what it was.
Billy Rutledge
Well, you should feel bad because you said you liked it and then you did that.
Drew Franklin
I did like it. I. I ate a carrot. I didn't eat the brown broccoli.
Matt Jones
Carrots are an underrated snack. I will give you that. They are. And so. But we're still gonna laugh about it. Who's next? J Rock. How are you, J Rock? Oh, no. Billy.
Caller
Hey, what's going on, y'?
Matt Jones
All?
Caller
It's been a while since I've been on the show previously known as the Billy R. Sports Postgame Show. Now it's the call screener Carl post game show from the Cocksrew Tavern, as you would say. But like Madison, I got two things, Matthew. I just got one thing. What is the three. What is the three things that you want to see on your vegetable tray?
Matt Jones
I holl. Carrot. Carrots. The little sweet pickles. Okay. You know what I'm talking about. The little tiny pickles. That'll be sweet. And I guess broccoli. What about you? Not the one. Not what? Billy had the smelly broccoli, but the rest of the broccoli.
Drew Franklin
I don't really do vegetables.
Matt Jones
I have to.
Drew Franklin
I have to like blend them into a juice and chug them.
Matt Jones
Okay, you don't. You don't like best.
Drew Franklin
I mean, I'll eat them, but like, I don't have. I don't have a power ranking. Like literally this week I took all kinds of vegetables from my fridge, some going bad, put them in a juicer and chugged it in two seconds just to get my vegetables. I do like a good green juice.
Billy Rutledge
And not a lot of talk about the cheese cubes and beef jerky that was there too.
Matt Jones
No, the focus was on the broccoli, mostly because of the smell of it. It was hard. It was hard not to focus on it. Who's Dale? Go ahead, Dale. Sorry. Billy's suitcase witnessed the jfk. Go ahead, Dale. Dale. All right. No. Yes. Go ahead, sir.
Caller
Oh, we got two things just like everybody else. First of all, Garrett, get your money raised. Cuz 8 to 5 getting ready to happen.
Matt Jones
But that would be amazing. What if they finish 8 and 5? I mean, literally, like. I mean, it's. It's not crazy. And it would be an unbelievable change. Yeah. Allah. Allah.
Caller
Howard Green. I got something for you, Matt.
Matt Jones
We're going to Nashville. We're gonna win. We're going to Louisville. We're gonna win. We're going to the Charlotte Manor. We're gonna win. You. You. If he had just finished with ah, then you would have had it because that was good.
Drew Franklin
Was that Dean?
Matt Jones
Howard.
Drew Franklin
Howard Dean.
Matt Jones
Howard Dean. Yeah. First time I. First time I ever really spent any time on the Internet was in on Howard Dean's. Like, I was part of Howard Dean's DC Meetup Group in 2004.
Drew Franklin
Wow. Save some fun for the rest of us.
Matt Jones
That's when I really thought the Internet had real capability.
Drew Franklin
It's a lot more out there.
Matt Jones
No, it actually. Howard Dean, to be honest with you, played a role in the start of ksr because Howard Dean used his blogs to kind of create momentum which he then blew. But momentum for his candidacy out of nowhere. When I started ksr, one of the things I looked at was how Howard Dean had done his blogs, because I really stayed away from the Internet. Then I was like, well, if Howard Dean's on it. Yeah, but I'm not even kidding. Like. Like, if you were to sit there and say, what were the things I kind of looked at, one of them was Howard Dean's blogs.
Drew Franklin
Wow.
Matt Jones
You didn't even know that.
Drew Franklin
No. Probably can't say what I looked at on the Internet when I first got.
Matt Jones
It, but it definitely wasn't a different experience. You had a different experience with the Internet?
Drew Franklin
There's just a lot out there. You know, I wasn't into the Howard Dean meetups. I didn't. My algorithm didn't put me there.
Matt Jones
Billy. When I was at law school at Duke, there would be times that the entire Duke Law computer lab would be on a website that was called hotornot.com. do you remember that or not? And you would just say yes or no, and they would just have people's pictures on there.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And one time, like, there was one for the state of North Carolina and someone put the whole Duke law class on it. And so, like, you could look and see what percentage rating you got.
Drew Franklin
It was a little. Yeah, like, show.
Matt Jones
It would show. It would go. Like, if you said Billy hot, it would go. 68 of people think Billy's hot, but like, it. But back then, like, you didn't get to permission. Someone would just do it.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. You know, that's the start of the Social Network.
Matt Jones
I think they ended up shutting it down, but that. But they did that. Who's next? Wayne. Go ahead, Wayne. Hey, Matt, how's it going? Doing good.
Caller
I got a hot take for you.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Caller
Mark Pope sacrificed his win so we.
Matt Jones
Could go and beat him in Louisville.
Caller
Beat Oval in football.
Matt Jones
Well, I mean, that's been Drew's point, which is that we haven't lost them both to them in many years. Maybe this is. It's the opposite.
Drew Franklin
Been a long time. I want to say like 2005 or something crazy.
Matt Jones
Yeah, go ahead, sir. Okay.
Commercial Announcer
And I.
Caller
So I think once we get Bo eligible, we. Do you think we either go seven and six or six.
Drew Franklin
Seven.
Matt Jones
Oh, man. There you go. Have you seen all the videos of all the kids at these basketball games going crazy when that happens?
Drew Franklin
Well, last night we were sitting on 65, and you could hear the kids getting excited. And then I think Cam Williams splashed a three, and they booed. They wanted 67. And he jumped straight to 68.
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's.
Drew Franklin
The kids love it.
Matt Jones
One of the more amazing trends ever. But they had all these basketball games where they were like, kids get in free. And I think it was like. I think it was South Dakota, and the stands were filled with children. And when they got to 67, the place absolutely went nuts. I mean, the kids were losing their mind. And if you watch the video, the announcer has no idea what's happening. The announcer is just talking like it's normal, and these kids are going inside insane. And the announcer does not even act like it's happening.
Drew Franklin
At the. At the UK volleyball game that happened against Tennessee, it was 6 to 7, and there was just this loud roar. And I'm looking around, like, what did I miss? It's kind of dead.
Matt Jones
Look up.
Drew Franklin
There's six, seven on the screen.
Matt Jones
Yeah. By the way, if we. Would you want to go. If Kentucky were to go to a bowl game, would you want to go to it? I mean, do you think our fans would. If. Would they get into a bowl game?
Drew Franklin
I think the destination city would matter.
Caller
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Because I think one of them is, like, right up against Christmas somewhere. Not very good, or.
Matt Jones
I think the more likely scenario, if you just look at the way it would play out, would be Memphis for the Liberty Ball. I mean, you could drive down there.
Drew Franklin
I can see that.
Matt Jones
It's like the 27th, I think, or something like that, or. No, maybe. Actually, I think it's after the first of the year. I want to say maybe it's January 3rd or something like that. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
As long as you're not just right up against. Against Christmas. I don't think we're enthusiastic enough to change your holiday plans, but if it's in a spot where people are a little more able to go, everybody likes.
Matt Jones
Would you want to see that? By the way, can we talk about the fact that no one. I mean, we're. We're like five minutes left. The show no one's mentioned. Is Mark Stoops just safe now?
Drew Franklin
Like, is he just seems like it.
Matt Jones
Is it just. I thought that a relationship that we thought was certain to end two weeks ago, is it just. Is he just safe now?
Drew Franklin
I mean, the caller made that point about how he played for the future instead of letting Bo Allin and Calzada kind of have their last snaps. I don't think there's nothing to that, letting those guys go, because it did show that he's thinking about getting them their opportunities so he can lean to them next year.
Billy Rutledge
A bad loss to Louisville would still leave a pretty bad taste in your mouth.
Matt Jones
Yeah. If you were to. If you were to get run these last two games, maybe it's.
Billy Rutledge
And then you're still in limbo for that. Five wins. I do like the idea of Mark Pope sacrificing the Louisville game for Kentucky football.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Billy Rutledge
And the pregame incident being Mark Stoops came into the locker room and told them to lose the game.
Drew Franklin
That would be interesting. Now, if he, if he got smoked in the next two games, we might go right back to where we are. I don't like to give too much credit about Auburn, you know, not being that good. Floor not being good. You beat Auburn in Florida. Those are good wins. But if you did. If you get smoked the next two weeks, I think that'd be. We might be back where we were.
Matt Jones
The Grizzlies lead the Cavaliers 76. 70 in the only game that is odd in this bar. Who's next? Terry. How are you, Terry?
Caller
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Caller
Guys, I think that Stoops, if he leaves, it's just going to be on his own accord. He's just going to ride off in the sunset.
Matt Jones
I don't.
Caller
I don't think he'll be forced out. And Drew, you and Matt have 30 seconds after I hang up this phone to talk me out of betting $500 on Ole Miss destroying Florida tonight. Have a nice trip.
Matt Jones
What? I think the spread is 11 and a half. That's the only thing. I mean, if, if you. Ole Miss is going to Destroy Florida. So $500 is a lot. That, that would be the way I would talk you out of it. But I think if it's. If it's. If it's a bet that doesn't harm you. I love Ole Miss destroy. I mean, Florida quit against us. What makes people think that's not going to happen again?
Drew Franklin
My KSR parlay pick. I made the case yesterday. I had the whole board to pick from. And that's the one I said. Florida looks like they've checked out. Their players are thinking about their future. They don't have a head coach next year. Their assistant coaches are probably thinking about their future.
Matt Jones
And it's a game.
Drew Franklin
Nothing. Yeah, games in Oxford. There's nothing left.
Matt Jones
Why it's only 11 and a half? I mean, we beat him by 31.
Drew Franklin
I don't love anything over 10 in a game like that. I wish you were little lower. But I, I just. I question Florida's motivation. We're all. Miss is a. Is a title contender.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I, I, I don't, I don't get it.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. So you guys are betting spread here. Not just Money Line.
Matt Jones
Money Money line's not gonna pay anything. Money line is, is. What is it? It's a, it's a huge number. So I mean, it's not paying.
Drew Franklin
It's probably might be like minus 500.
Matt Jones
Honestly.
Drew Franklin
Might bet 500 to.
Matt Jones
Money line's minus four back. Yeah. So I, I'm, I mean, I would put you on the money line. Oh, me? Yeah. I mean, I would just be like, we lose Billy, if old miss.
Drew Franklin
What do you get though, when you bet? When you lay Billy down. What's the, what's the payout? Not a lot.
Matt Jones
A matching set of that luggage.
Billy Rutledge
And if you lose, I go over to a different radio station.
Matt Jones
Yeah, if you lose, you go work. You become no filter.
Drew Franklin
Going to the cup, man.
Matt Jones
Go to the cup.
Billy Rutledge
Anywhere else, please.
Matt Jones
Who's up next? Now he's gonna talk about you. Now he's gonna talk about you. It used to be Shannon. Now it's gonna be you. Go ahead. Who's Cook? Go ahead, Cook.
Caller
Hey, I'm just wondering, why couldn't you all extend your trip a little bit and just go to the, the basketball game?
Matt Jones
I may do that. I may do that, but these guys are not. But, but I, I may actually go to the game. So I, I'm still trying to decide because, but remember, Buffalo and New York City are not that close to each other like you think they are. But go look at a map. I think it's like a seven hour drive. So if I go, I might have to fly from Buffalo to New York. I think the flight from Buffalo to New York is the exact same distance as Cincinnati to New York.
Drew Franklin
So depending when we go, we could maybe get to Lexington before we could get to New York City from Buffalo.
Matt Jones
You've got to post that picture.
Drew Franklin
No, Mario posted it. Mario made it. Mario did it.
Matt Jones
Wait a minute. Mario, you did that?
Drew Franklin
It's on the KSR of the show. That's why Billy yelled at him there a little.
Matt Jones
I mean, that, that picture.
Drew Franklin
How did you come up with that sitting here at the table?
Billy Rutledge
Is that what you, is that what you learned at Kentucky?
Matt Jones
Had a wait? It's not. I don't see it. Where did you, where did you, did you post that on the.
Drew Franklin
Oh, it's on the story. It's not on the.
Matt Jones
Dude, you've got to put, put that on KSR's Twitter.
Billy Rutledge
You don't have to do that.
Matt Jones
Yes, you do. That story. That. That. That. Oh, my goodness. But that is what you look like, though. It really. That is. Who's next? Mario. That's Mario. That's so mean. Kelly, Go ahead. Kelly. Kelly.
Caller
Hey, got a question for you.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Caller
So going back to that Calzada video with the Garrett gets your money right comment, do you think the revisionist history would be if the team did not.
Matt Jones
Turn around and that video was out there? That. That would. It's a great question. I mean, if that video was out there and let's say we then, you know, get blown out by Florida and everything falls apart, that video would then be seen as the symbol of the downf. The program. I mean, I think it's a great. It's a great point by you. It. We can laugh at it now, but in part, we can laugh at it because we beat Florida because things look good. If we didn't, it would have been kind of like the dude going to the tr. To the concession stand last year. I mean, that picture was kind of a. A picture. An image of a program out of control had we not beaten Florida. I think that same thing happens again, don't you?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. It wasn't just beating Florida. It's that Cutter Bowley did it to Calzada and we crushed the kicker. Did it. Them doing it on the sideline showed that. That locker rooms together and those guys.
Matt Jones
Like, you can see how it could have gone the other way.
Drew Franklin
Definitely.
Matt Jones
I mean. Yeah, that's a great point, sir. I appreciate the call. That could have been, you know, I mean, that could have been the jorts in the bathroom stall moment for him. No, I mean, like, Jordan, the bathroom stall. There wasn't a picture. But that is if you say, like, if you're to tell people that age, what was Billy's reign? Right? Like, they would say, George got left in a bathroom stall at Bambi. I think that could have been it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And I mean, when they were doing that money dance, Stoops was right next to him on the sideline. So it kind of. Kind of said a lot about how the team feels about it. I mean, I'm sure Calzada got some internal punishment, but they felt comfortable enough to do it to his face, and we're laughing about it. So it. It rallied them. Whatever people think about it personally, they got fired up by it.
Matt Jones
Would you. It's kind of to close the book on the suitcase. Although I'm gonna keep laughing at. Would you like me for your wedding gift to get you luggage? Yeah, I would do that.
Billy Rutledge
I mean, I'm still waiting on my Tate Ratlage jersey.
Matt Jones
No, but I'm serious. Like I'm gonna have to get you a wedding gift. Yeah, I never know what people to. Yeah, I don't want to get like a hot pot. Like I don't, I don't want to buy like kitchen wear. I would use it if I got you a nice piece of luggage. Yes, that would be a good way to sort of. I mean, I'm going to wait for you. I'm not going to do it tomorrow. But like, but your wife, I mean, that's not for her. Would she be okay with that?
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I think so.
Matt Jones
Can't be. Like my friend Dwayne when he got married, who he put razor blades on his wedding registry.
Drew Franklin
What razor?
Matt Jones
He did. He put wedding. He put razor blades, a basketball and a trash can. And I was like, is this for you or for your couple? Would your wife be okay? I'm sure cuz she could use it too.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I think we're going to ask.
Matt Jones
So then I'm going to do that. Okay.
Drew Franklin
Okay.
Matt Jones
That's going to be my wedding. I'm going to get you nice luggage so you don't have to use this past next. What? When is it?
Billy Rutledge
What?
Matt Jones
The wedding.
Billy Rutledge
August 8th.
Matt Jones
There you go. So you only have 10 more months of that suitcase.
Billy Rutledge
Well, it's pretty durable. I mean it's been around for a.
Drew Franklin
While, so not a better brand in suitcases.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, my duffel bag got destroyed, so we had to go with that one.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Also Marissa.
Matt Jones
I'm going to do that. Marissa, don't put that on your registry. Okay, that's what I'm going to do for your win.
Billy Rutledge
Well, that's very nice.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Marissa said she sent the suitcase with him. So as we make fun of it, part of me is thinking I'll get.
Matt Jones
Marissa also like a side bag.
Billy Rutledge
Oh, okay.
Matt Jones
So you all can have a matching.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Marissa needs a side.
Matt Jones
She's a lot of things is gonna need a side piece.
Billy Rutledge
Okay, we stop there.
Drew Franklin
No, but Marissa did write in that she packed the snacks and the suitcase. We're keeping this on Billy.
Matt Jones
Okay, this is on Bill. So there you go. That's. We've now we've gotten our wedding gift. I don't have to think about that anymore.
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, that's very nice.
Matt Jones
I have my mom pick it so it's something nice because I can't pick it.
Billy Rutledge
Somebody else is going to pick it.
Matt Jones
Well, you don't want me to pick it? I don't know. But like she'll tell me like something that a woman would want to like. I don't want to get just like, you know, I don't want to get like a Buffalo Bills suitcase. We'll get something.
Drew Franklin
Is this the bachelor party right now, the four of us?
Matt Jones
No, we're going to have a good bachelor party. Yeah, I already know, I already know what we're going to do. So I wanted to do it with, with Drew and it was too long. I didn't, we didn't have the money. Now we're going to do it.
Billy Rutledge
What is it?
Matt Jones
Well, you'll see. Hey, thank you folks. Very.
Billy Rutledge
There's the music.
Matt Jones
We're going to the move.
Drew Franklin
It's good talking football with you all.
Matt Jones
It was. We got a lot done tonight. So tomorrow I'll be on from what's the name of the bar? Big Tree in Big Tree Inn tomorrow with my for ESPN Matt Myron from 10 to 1. Then we will do the COVID Zero podcast from somewhere tomorrow and we will be at the Bills game. Be watching on social media. And guys, it's been fun so far. I hope you, I hope you've enjoyed it.
Drew Franklin
Let's get back in the car and keep going.
Matt Jones
Let's go. Two more hours to Buffalo, the hometown of our heart. Thank you all very much. Thanks to Gavin in the studio and everyone. We will see you later. Cats with a 4210 victory on the radio on the on the road. We are thanks to the Corkscrew Corkscrew Tap House Taphouse for hosting us in Geneva. We'll see you later. This has been the local toy dealers KSR post game show.
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KSR Postgame Show UK FB vs Tennessee Tech (11/15/25) – Podcast Summary
This lively episode of the KSR Postgame Show, hosted by Matt Jones with Drew Franklin, Billy Rutledge, and Mario, recaps Kentucky’s decisive 42–10 football win over Tennessee Tech on Senior Day. Broadcasting from the Corkscrew Tap House in Geneva, Ohio (mid-road trip to Buffalo), the crew blends game analysis with their trademark road-trip banter, offbeat local trivia, calls from the BBN faithful, and discussion of broader Kentucky sports topics. While the football breakdown is front and center, the episode is also full of camaraderie, running jokes about Billy’s suitcase/veggie tray, and humorous asides about their journey.
“This is how games like this should go. And it did. ... It was never really in jeopardy.” (30:34)
“You brought a veggie tray. Very rarely do you see a veggie tray [on a guys’ road trip].” (06:36)
“Is he just safe now? ...Is he just safe now?” (55:01)
“If it was a sunk cost... he just said, well, okay, let’s keep going.” (38:47)
“If we didn’t [turn it around], it would’ve been kind of like... a picture... of a program out of control.” (60:51)
“Kentucky has found momentum. They are playing with confidence. They are playing with swagger.” – Drew Franklin (41:15)
“Carrots are an underrated snack.” – Matt Jones (48:34)
Throughout the episode, the KSR team maintains a light-hearted, conversational, and deeply Kentucky-centric tone. The mix of on-the-field analysis, inside jokes, fan calls, and irreverent observations is true to the show’s spirit. The banter about travel snacks, Billy’s old-school suitcase, and Geneva’s claim to the moon is as much a part of the show’s experience as the postgame football breakdown.
This episode offered a satisfying UK football postgame recap while highlighting the camaraderie and wittiness that’s made KSR a Bluegrass Institution. Fans tuning in for serious X’s and O’s got enough analysis to understand the win, but the show’s magic was really in the dynamic between Matt, Drew, Billy, and Mario as they shared the silliness, the food, and the optimism of a Kentucky team finding its glide late in the season.
If you missed this episode, you missed not just a postgame wrap-up, but a slice of KSR—carrots, cocktails, moon real estate, and all.