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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemond
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Matt Jones
For the ones who get it done. Welcome everyone. It is the local Toyota dealers KSR Post Game show it is late at night and we are here in Windsor, Colorado after the Kentucky Wildcats lose 70 to 66 at Clemson in a disappointing performance. 859-280-2287 we got our full house here. We got Drew, we got Ryan, we got Shannon, we got Max. I'll give you a quick two or three minute rundown and let these guys talk. 859-280-2287 we watched the game in Fort Collins, had a big crowd of Kentucky fans come. So thank you to the folks who came. Probably 40 some people come to a town in the middle of Colorado to watch a game with us. So that was a lot of fun. The game itself. Kentucky I think, you know I said before the game that I thought if Kentucky won tonight, the difference between being a great team and a very good team is winning games like this. And I think, you know, after beating Duke and after having kind of rolled through the bad teams and then losing this game, I think Kentucky is more in the line of very good than great. Now you could still do really good things with a very good team but probably more like a ranked 8th to 12th, 13th ranked team. A couple of things that stood out one for the first game really that we've seen this year, big gap between the starters, the reserves. Butler was in foul trouble in the first half. Mark Pope says maybe he, he thinks he might have messed up and coached him into foul trouble basically meaning maybe should have played him more in the first half and then he got hurt in the second half and there was just a huge drop off between Butler and Kerr. Creese Butler was plus 17 on the game. Kirkcreesa was minus 21 on plus minus.
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Ryan Lemond
Ouch.
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Matt Jones
That is a huge difference. Now that doesn't mean if Butler plays you win but I think you have a much better shot. Kerr was, was really bad tonight on, on both ends got just worked on defense and on offense didn't really add much. So I think there was a big drop off there. There was also a big drop off between Amare Williams and I, who I don't think played particularly well, but did add some points at the end. But then Garrison was actually minus 20 tonight. So you had one guy minus 21, one guy minus 20. That's not good. So. And those were the only two players, by the way, on the Kentucky roster. Away and Jackson, who played essentially the whole game, were like minus one. So really that was that. If you look at the plus minus, Mari was plus 16, Butler was plus 17, Garrison was minus 20, Carisa was minus 21. I mean, if you just look at the plus minus, and there's more to it than that, that's the difference in the game is when you had to go to those other two guys, it made a big difference. Kentucky still had their chances, though. Away had three open threes in the last two minutes. If he hits one of them, it's a different game, but he misses all three. He was the leading scorer, but still missed those shots that hurt. You got crushed on the glass in the first half. Better in the second half, but was minus 10 on the glass in the first half, plus 10 in the second half. I think Kentucky lost the game in the first half. They were kind of digging out of a hole the entirety of the second half and just couldn't quite get out of it. Led a couple times by one, but just, you know, if the game's tied at halftime, they probably win. So I think the first half, the foul trouble, the getting out, rebounded, it killed them. And then the last thing I would say is my worry on the entire season has always been the same thing. Do you have a guy that can go get a bucket when you need one? When you really need a basket, do you have it? And I don't think Kentucky as of yet has shown that they do. Against Duke, Andrew Carr made a couple big plays. But even tonight, I mean, we, we hung in there. But I want you to think three of our last five baskets were back to the basket. Little hook shots by Mari Williams. They went in. So I'm not, I'm glad, I'm happy. But that, like, that can't be your offense to win games at the end. So some concerning things. With that said, it's one loss, it's on the road, Clemson's probably a tournament team. It's not the biggest deal in the world. And if you beat Gonzaga Saturday, it's not a deal at all, to be honest. Honest with you. That's my take. Let's go around the room. Drew, what do you think?
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Drew Franklin
Amari Williams, he got a few buckets there at the end, but that's my guy. Still worried he's calling his own number a little too much. He does so many good things, but sometimes I think he thinks he's John Wall and it's his time to go with one arm.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
He and Kerr Crease were a little disappointed. Kerr especially. I think he went over four from three.
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Matt Jones
Were you surprised how bad he was?
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Drew Franklin
He was pretty bad.
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Matt Jones
He was bad.
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Drew Franklin
I have. If we can delete the Instagram graphic where he was my MVP pick, I'd appreciate it. I thought.
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Matt Jones
Oh, he was. Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
I thought he'd play well on the road. Not a good night for him. I was disappointed. Those two guys, and then just as a team, they didn't shoot well from three, which has now happened more times than we thought we'd see so far in the year. I think three straight games, there's something.
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Matt Jones
Like the last three games, there's something like 23 of 82 or something.
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Drew Franklin
But the thing that shocks me the most is free throws. And 61% tonight, I think. And it's not the first time they've had a bad free throw night. I just thought with a team of shooters, this free throws would be a problem. But at some point, we need to worry, is this going to be an ongoing issue? Because, you know, you lose by four, but you went, whatever, 11 of 18 from the free throw line. I mean, that's a. That's a big issue there.
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Matt Jones
Six of. I think six of 13 in the first half. Yeah, it was a very physical game. And that's now three games Kentucky's played. That's physical. And they've been our three. I don't say worst performances. We beat Duke, but. But the three hardest offensive performances are the games where teams have played. I think we're gonna see that all year from teams.
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Drew Franklin
They're gonna be SEC teams that want to just fight.
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Matt Jones
Well, let's remember, I mean, the SEC went nine and one tonight against the acc. We were the one, so that's not fun.
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Ryan Lemond
Ryan, we said that during the game tonight. You and I said this is the way teams are gonna play Kentucky to play. Physical. Big guys did not play very well. All three of them did not play very well. Car Williams.
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Matt Jones
Car wasn't good either.
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Ryan Lemond
No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. I really, honestly am not disappointed they lost. I think we all kind of thought they might Lose and it's not that big a deal if they did lose a true road game. But I am disappointed in offensive execution. I think for the first time we saw their offense not really be in sync.
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Matt Jones
Well, I don't think the offense was really in sync at the end of the Duke game either. It's just Carr made a couple big plays. Yeah, those and ones. I mean, I think the offense when it gets up and down, man, I'll take them against anybody. But in the half court, it's one of those dudes. Butler was the guy who got to the rim the easiest tonight.
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Shannon The Dude
He did.
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Matt Jones
And the other two guys, Jackson did a little bit, but then he wasn't able to finish and then OA was just. He scored 17 but was just kind of off.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, it was good to see Jackson, Robinson kind of step up in a big game. You know, he hadn't seen that yet, so I was happy with him.
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Matt Jones
But.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, but something about the offense, just.
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Matt Jones
Kentucky shooting 27% from three in the last three games. It's going to be hard for them to win this year if that doesn't improve.
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Max Duffy
Clemson just slowed down Kentucky's offense, kind of threw him out of rhythm. I didn't feel like Kentucky's offense was ever really in sync. You know the thing again, going back to Amari Williams dribbling too much. I mean, a couple of shots he did knock down, but that's not what you want to see in your offense. Your strength is shooting. Even on nights that you're struggling, you still, I feel like got to keep jacking them up. You don't want to abandon the three. And I kind of feel like they did a little bit towards the end of the game and I think that that maybe led to why they lost.
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Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I don't know if I was repeating what had been said on many previous and post game shows, but I did allude to the fact that the two most important players are Butler and Williams and that was the plus minus. That worked out tonight. I think Butler gets to the rim great. But he can't be our only offense because he's so small in there that he gets blocked and then it's like, all right, the other two ways that you can get easy points are Amari Williams honestly throwing it inside because when.
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Matt Jones
He gets the ball in the paint, I'm okay with it. When he gets it outside of the paint, I'm not a fan.
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Billy Rutledge
Agreed.
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Matt Jones
But.
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Billy Rutledge
But if we can throw it into him, that's a way that we can create buckets. Because he's big and he made a score 3. The other way that I think that wasn't great tonight is like, if we're going to be a three point shooting team, you'd like to see a little bit more movement. Like there wasn't a whole lot of movement of like guys coming off screens, guys running baseline. Like there was just kind of a little bit of just standing still and just seeing if something could.
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Matt Jones
Those always shots came off of movement. He missed them, but they came off a movement. But there were a lot of possessions. You're right. I mean, the possession before the two away threes, back to back, that possession before was one of the worst possessions. I. It was a huge possession, the game. I think we were down two maybe, and Amari Williams just dribbled it for like 22 seconds. They called. Then they called timeout. And when we came out of the timeout, Butler just shot a contested three and was blocked. That was a really awful possession and an important possession.
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Drew Franklin
Definitely that was disappointing. The away threes. Butler made a great offensive rebound to get him a second look.
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Matt Jones
And in the pass on the other one, that was Robinson.
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Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah, yeah. Both times those were such good looks, but it just wasn't falling tonight. We knew when Mark Pope got hired how many times you heard live by the three, die by the three. It just wasn't going in tonight. This was a die by the three night and the free throw line, a few other things. But they had their opportunities to make a shot at the end. It didn't go in.
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Matt Jones
Are you worried about the depth thing, Ryan? Like, we came into this going okay. They're going to have nine guys, Chandler's maybe the 10th. They can get guys in and out. I mean, I felt like first of all, he didn't play Bray a lot down the stretch, which was odd to me. But I feel like there was a huge drop off between the starting five. I don't know. We'll. I don't know, Brea. That was kind of weird. But when they went to that next group of Almanor, Creesa and Garrison, I just felt like it was a big drop.
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Ryan Lemond
It's like the first time all year I felt that, especially in Kirk Kreesa when he came in, the offense just didn't run very smoothly at all. Bria, I don't know what. He only had three points. He wasn't looking for a shot and.
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Matt Jones
Maybe he didn't play.
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Max Duffy
Only had three attempts the entire game.
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Matt Jones
He didn't play the last 10 minutes of the game.
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Max Duffy
One of two from threes.
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Matt Jones
I mean, I maybe would have liked to have seen some of those crease amendment minutes go to him. I mean, I guess you'd had to have Robinson run the point or something. But like I would. Chris. I, you know, I love the kid and they'll be good moments with him, but he was off. Yeah, I mean he. Most of Clemson's points. If you go back and look at those plays, Shannon, most of Clemson's points were picking on crease. Either just beat him off the dribble or beat him and then a guy would double and hit. That guy would hit the shot or they put him in a pick and roll. I mean he just got.
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Max Duffy
Yeah. I mean I don't think Kirk Reese is going to be a guy that you're going to look to for offense, but a guy that maybe is going to come in and bring the energy level up, you know. And I felt like you're right, they did pick on him tonight and it was not a good, good game at all for him.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Billy Rutledge
I mean him or Car. I mean they pick on Car a lot too. And that's one of the things that Williams again offers you is defense. But then also rebounding. I mean we got destroyed in rebounding. When he's not in there.
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Matt Jones
When he's not in the other dude, the dude that looked like. First of all, he doesn't look like me. Those of you online, it does not look like. I don't. First of all, I mean I wish.
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Drew Franklin
There were you lookalike contest. He would place.
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Ryan Lemond
Tell me the place podium.
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Matt Jones
He would not be podium. Yeah, okay.
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Drew Franklin
He would get a rivet. He's got vice versa.
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Matt Jones
Hair is curly. It's long. I haven't had long hair since I was like 15, you know you.
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Max Duffy
He doesn't look like you.
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Matt Jones
Thank you. Sh.
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Max Duffy
He looks more like John C. Riley.
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Matt Jones
Exactly. And I don't look like brothers from step brothers.
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Max Duffy
The guy.
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Matt Jones
I don't look like John C. I know.
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Max Duffy
He looks like a young John C. Riley.
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Matt Jones
You were supposed to disagree.
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Drew Franklin
I do disagree. I did. Like he went 1 from 8 from 3. I wanted him to shoot them all. Like we should have just let him keep.
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Ryan Lemond
That was definitely the scatter report. We're going to let that guy shoot.
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Matt Jones
I'd forgotten about him, but I remember in the NCAA tournament watching him and thinking he's not good. But yet he has 15 points and 15 rebounds. How is that possible?
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Drew Franklin
I mean he shot 4 for 20.
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Matt Jones
He was 4 for 20.
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Max Duffy
But he had 20 rebounds. Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean like how does that happen? And he can't jump. How does he get those rebounds?
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Max Duffy
First of all, goes over the back.
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Matt Jones
I'm not. We lost. We should have lost. But you are kidding me if you're telling me that dude had zero fouls.
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Max Duffy
That's true. He went over the back at least three times.
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Matt Jones
I mean, you are kidding me if you saying he had zero fouls because he just throws himself into everybody which.
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Drew Franklin
Is he was giving clash Peters.
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Matt Jones
I mean he, he literally had 20. You're telling me a guy can have 20 rebounds and no fouls? Come on.
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Drew Franklin
I like that he had eight offensive rebounds. How many of those were just his own miss and then him. But he would bellying his way.
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Matt Jones
He would go over everyone's back. They never would call it because he didn't jump high enough. But like.
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Max Duffy
And his shots were so.
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Matt Jones
I'm not, I'm not anyway saying that's why we lost. But there's no way a dude that plays the way he does has zero fouls. Max. Come on.
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Billy Rutledge
Oh, I agree. I mean the difference was though, unfortunately he got a lot of rebounds. And then the difference for them compared to us was they had the 45 year old that could get a few buckets himself and then the point guard who can get a few.
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Matt Jones
I mean that guy. I want to. I need to see his birth certificate. Yeah, he, the Russian guy is at.
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Billy Rutledge
Least 35 and number 11 is 60.
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Ryan Lemond
Exactly. You got look like he's been in a wind tunnel.
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Drew Franklin
Got the skullet.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, yeah, he, he does have skull it like, I mean that dude, those.
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Drew Franklin
They have, they're an example of the COVID years stuff needs to go away. Let's go back to traditional seniors. You get four years.
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Matt Jones
I mean come on, we can't have.
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Billy Rutledge
People'S uncles out there still been going off polio years. That's how old they were.
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Matt Jones
Oh well. 2287. That was good. All right. If you're up this late, you're probably either coming home from the game or you just like to talk basketball. So we'll open up the phones. We're going to be here probably a little bit shorter than most other post game shows because we're going to be on the air in eight hours doing another one. So we'll take a break and be right back. A local toy dealers, KSR post kit. 125 in the morning and a loss and loaded phone lines. I mean I do want to say it's worth noting with this fan base, I mean There were 40 people in Fort Collins today on very little notice. Very little notice. There were people that drove from Denver, from. From Boulder, from Vail. One guy drove from Wyoming all to come watch the game in Fort Collins. That was awesome. There was Cat Chance in Fort Collins. Away, away, away. Song probably louder than it's been. Rupp arena was there. So. Right. I mean this fan base, we continue to be like amazed by it every time.
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Ryan Lemond
And we got in. Down in Clemson, there was a big blue contingent. We heard the catch chair. You heard it during the broadcast TV broad.
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Matt Jones
They ended up. Actually that ended up being a much better atmosphere than we thought. One of the rare December court storms. Yeah, yeah.
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Drew Franklin
They went with the lights off. Court storm too, Phil.
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Matt Jones
When people, when people, people run on the court. Shannon, I don't think you should turn the lights.
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Max Duffy
What could possibly go wrong? You know, somebody just wanted to punch somebody in the face. The lights are off. Zero video evidence of what happened. Anything could go on.
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Matt Jones
I don't know that that's the way to go.
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Drew Franklin
But I kind of thought the court storm might be good for our players. Kind of feel it like you're Kentucky.
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Matt Jones
You just.
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Drew Franklin
Well, did you just felt that loss.
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Matt Jones
Did you see the Pope quote? Pope has a good quote about that. Pope. Pope has a quote. I'll find it. Here's what he said. He said, I know Calperry used to say where everybody's Super Bowl. This is why you come to Kentucky. This is why you put on the jersey. It's an honor, but it also requires you to be great. We weren't great tonight. I like that.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
I mean, Cal was right that it's everybody's super bowl, but it is also an honor to play. There is a sense we often go, man, everybody banks in threes against us, which they do. And we always get everybody's best effort, which they do, and we always get everybody's best crowd. We do. But that's the honor of the jersey. Right. Like that's why you come here. That's what Alabama gets in football, you know, that's what you get. That's why you come here. And you have to reach that effort.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. And I think maybe, you know, you don't want to lose that game, but we already know how much they appreciate being at Kentucky. But maybe just seeing how much it solid for another team to see what it meant for them to lose, maybe that'll just inspire them even more. Like, yeah, we've made it to UK and you know, we are the top dog because that court storm early December, you Don't see many of those.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. All right, who's up first? Drew. Drew. Go ahead, Drew.
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Shannon The Dude
Hey, how are y'all?
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Matt Jones
What's going on? Hey.
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Shannon The Dude
First thing I gotta say is Clemson gotta be the ugliest team I've ever seen. I mean, I'm not an attractive fella, but I probably.
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Matt Jones
It is not. It is not. It's not gonna cover of gq. I think that's fair to say. I don't. I'm glad you said it. Not me, but I. It's not a terrible boy.
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Shannon The Dude
But one thing that confused me was the rotations tonight because, like, I thought we felt like we went on some runs, and then after the timeout, we just completely do something different. And I was just confused by that because we were going. We were going like an 80 run, and then we just changed it all up out of nowhere. And then.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, if. If you had. If we. If I had to do. Appreciate the call. If I had to do something over Shannon, if I was coaching, which, thankfully, I mean, for the team, I'm not. We go on that 90 run. We go up 28, 23. Clemson calls timeout. Pope takes out Butler, who had two fouls, Williams and Car. He takes all three of those guys out. Put. I don't remember who he put in, but I think it was Crease of Garrison and someone. I can't maybe Bray. Maybe. Yeah. And Clemson then immediately goes on a 100 run right back. That, to me, was a key sequence.
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Max Duffy
Yeah. And then, I mean, Butler put the team on his back and carried him for, I mean, most of the game. So, yeah, I mean, some of the rotations were a little confusing. I'm not really sure why he did.
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Matt Jones
That, but he probably thought. My guess what he thought Ryan is. Okay. We're up five. There's three minutes to go. I can get Car. I can make sure Car and Butler don't pick up their third foul. And I'll get us to halftime.
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Ryan Lemond
Yep.
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Matt Jones
But then you have that 100 run, and we don't get it right.
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Ryan Lemond
In past games, your reserves come off the bench but held their own. Probably would have protected that lead a little better tonight. They just didn't get it done tonight.
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Drew Franklin
As much as we've seen in any game. Amont Butler is a dude you gotta have out there. Like you just said, the moment he sat down, they went on a 100 run. He was so good tonight from the field. He had his free throws. He had the usual defense. That guy needs to be out there as much as Possible and it hurt him when he got in foul trouble.
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Matt Jones
You're not going to see too many games max with plus 17 for your starting point guard, minus 21 for your. I mean you're not going to see that very much in basketball.
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Billy Rutledge
And you, and you don't want to go back to the Cal Perry of like only March matters. But I mean there is a part of Pope that would be like, we got to put some of these guys out there, see what they can do, keep trying to develop them. If you just keep them on the bench and play seven guys the whole year, then you're going to get nothing out of some of them. Like they're not going to get any better. So you may as well use games like this. Put them out there. Now that doesn't sound good for a one off game, but in the whole term of the seasons, you've got to put them out there and let them see if they can get better. I mean, you got to see what Creason can do. If you can put him out there for 15, 20 minutes.
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Matt Jones
Well, he's got to play better. Yeah, he's got to play as bad as he was on offense. And he was, he was in the first half, his offense was glaring to me. But in the second half that defense, I mean they were just, they couldn't leave him out there.
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Ryan Lemond
Grandpa guy was just driving right past him just time after time.
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Matt Jones
And even the. I thought the biggest shot of the game was a two point game when the old big guy, what was his name?
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Shannon The Dude
The Russian.
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Matt Jones
Russian. He hit that three. Yeah, that took it from two to five. But he was open because Carr had to double to stop the drive because Creasy had gotten beat.
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Drew Franklin
So yeah, they had some big shots. I mean, Kentucky had shots at the end. OA went over three there in the end on the opposite side. When Clemson had them, they made them.
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Max Duffy
Here's the thing, we got this game out of the way. Let's move forward. Got Gonzaga coming up.
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Drew Franklin
You think we all will probably go one and one. Which would you rather win? We're, we're following our own script.
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Max Duffy
The worst part about it though, we are the one loss in the SEC ACC challenge. Seven and one and we're not nine and one.
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Matt Jones
The SEC has already won the challenge. It's over going into night two.
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Max Duffy
We could have swept.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Who's up next? Pat. Pat. How are you? Pat?
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Shannon The Dude
Hey, Matt. Doing well.
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Matt Jones
How about you? Doing good.
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Shannon The Dude
Good. Hey, I was just calling in actually about an article you tweeted by Ken Smith. Saying, breathe Caliperry. Arkansas fans get it more than Kentucky fans. Well, somebody pointed out there's a bunch of typos, and it was a really weirdly written article. We think it might still be that artificial intelligence stuff that Sports Illustrate got caught doing at the end of last year. Did you notice that in that article?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, it was terrible. It might have been, but what they're basically doing is they're having fans do articles now. I mean, like, fans like sports. It's not Sports Illustrated writers anymore. I mean, they have some. But most of the team sites are run by fans, and so, you know, it's just. It's. It's a blogger, and that. That's why I deleted the article, by the way. I appreciate the call. When I first saw it, I was like, oh, this must be a Sports Illustrated article. And then when I read it, I was like, that's not a Sports Illustrated article, and I'm not just going to retweet a fan blog.
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Ryan Lemond
So Arkansas came back to win that game tonight that. I thought they were dead.
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Matt Jones
I thought they would. Miami's bad. But they hit some. I mean, like, they hit some big shots. We watched the end of that game. They hit. They were. That game was tied, I think boogie flying or whatever. So DJ and Big Z had some.
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Drew Franklin
Big shots in the cutback, too.
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Billy Rutledge
If they've got anything we don't, it's guys that just create their own show.
- [23:17]
Matt Jones
That's always been. I mean, like, you honestly saw the difference in the two coaches. All right, Cal doesn't run late offense, but he does have guys who can go get a shot. And if he's playing against a subpar team, they can get their. Get their thing. Hope right now, I think he will in the future have a guy who can go get his shot, but he doesn't have it. And he can run offense, but if you miss a shot, you miss a shot. You know, he was open twice. He missed it both times. Who's next? Blake. Blake. What's up, Blake?
- [23:46]
Shannon The Dude
Hey, guys. Just wanted to say it's always good to have the whole crew together. You guys have been fun, you know, the whole way through, and excited to see what y'all do for the rest of the trip, but just wanted to say with the. I know Pope's a big analytics guy, and I hope. I was kind of, you know, disappointed he didn't run any, like, different defenses with the backup crew, because I feel like they could have done a. Like, a zone at some point because they were getting killed in the Second half with that second group just going to the, like the outer. Like, you know, they're getting beat not to the baseline, but on the. The wing pretty much on both sides with several different guys. So I hope that they kind of see and run that, like, run some different defenses with that second group because the first group can play man to man all they want. But I'm not too worried about the loss because it was. It was still fun. We battled back a bunch of times. We just didn't have the ball go down and, you know, shots we didn't hit. So. But I hope this is like the Indiana game.
- [24:43]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's what you 12.
- [24:44]
Shannon The Dude
Right. You do hope that Foreman and we hope that they're. They're pumped about it for the rest of season to use that as fuel.
- [24:50]
Matt Jones
Appreciate the call. That's a really good analogy. I mean, Kirk Crease have played 21 minutes. Lamont Butler played 19.
- [24:57]
Max Duffy
That's a problem.
- [24:59]
Ryan Lemond
He was forced to because the fouls.
- [25:01]
Matt Jones
And then the injury. So, I mean, I don't think that was Pope's choice, but that's a big thing. He also played Creed. I think they're going to have to maybe Drew to look at whether it's Robinson or away letting them get some minutes at backup point guard for games like this.
- [25:19]
Drew Franklin
Jake her is that bad?
- [25:21]
Matt Jones
Yes. Tonight. I'm not saying he's always going to be that bad and he's. But he was that bad tonight and.
- [25:27]
Drew Franklin
It'S just so reckless. I mean, some of the threes he takes, it's like, what are you doing? And they're not even close.
- [25:32]
Matt Jones
He.
- [25:32]
Drew Franklin
We love his attitude, but this is kind of what we knew coming in, what we were getting. And we're seeing the negative, negative end of it.
- [25:39]
Matt Jones
I mean, he was 0 for 4 from the field and getting cooked on defense. And again, I'm not blaming him for the game, but like, you can't have that.
- [25:48]
Ryan Lemond
I think it's because we named him the Johnny Rocker, role player of the game.
- [25:53]
Max Duffy
KSR cursed him. Cursed him.
- [25:55]
Matt Jones
Why did you do that?
- [25:56]
Ryan Lemond
I tried to help the poor man.
- [25:58]
Matt Jones
It's a new sponsor.
- [25:59]
Ryan Lemond
New sponsor. Johnny Rocker.
- [26:04]
Max Duffy
Don't. Don't blame the sponsor.
- [26:05]
Matt Jones
Yeah. First of all, don't put it on him.
- [26:07]
Max Duffy
Johnny Rocker had nothing to do with this. He had zero minutes in the game.
- [26:11]
Drew Franklin
Did we find out. Was Dabo ever introduced?
- [26:13]
Matt Jones
I don't know. If he did, they should have booed. Who's next?
- [26:16]
Shannon The Dude
John.
- [26:17]
Matt Jones
John. Go ahead, John.
- [26:20]
Shannon The Dude
Hey, guys. Hope you're staying warm out there. I am. From Kentucky. I live here in Washington State, so super excited to have you out here for the game. A couple things. I think having no point guard tonight for half the game, as you mentioned, leads to 60 something points, which is unfortunate to see. But you know, what are you going to do if you don't have somebody out there kind of leading the offense, which we saw a lot of dudes struggle today. From a defensive perspective, everybody minus Crease have played really good. So, you know, this game had to happen. I'm glad it happened today versus this weekend against a ranked team. And I'm curious, you know, I'm from Kentucky, I live in North Carolina. I made that same drive. I live here in Portland. What are you guys doing from the next part of the trip? What are you doing once you get.
- [27:03]
Matt Jones
We're going to. We're going to go tomorrow night. We're going to. We're going to spend tomorrow night in Vail. We're going to spend Thursday night in Salt Lake City. We're going to spend Friday night in Boise where we may go to the Boise State Mountain west title game and see if they make the playoff. Then we're going to get up early Saturday, drive to Seattle and we'll be there Saturday night and all day Sunday.
- [27:23]
Shannon The Dude
Cool. Any chance of a pregame show in Seattle?
- [27:27]
Matt Jones
That's the goal. Depends on what time we get up in Boise. That's the goal. But we definitely will do. If we win, we'll definitely do something in public for the post game and maybe even if we lose, there'll be a way if people want to come say hello. We'll make sure we do that. But appreciate the call. We the Boise to Seattle drive is a longer drive. If I told you before the game, Ryan, that we'd hold them to 37% shooting from the field, 32% from three, that at the end of the game we would tie them in rebounds and we'd hold them to 70 points. You'd probably feel pretty good about our chances to have won.
- [28:04]
Ryan Lemond
I would have taken that in a second. I would have felt like we would have shot the ball well enough to win the game.
- [28:08]
Matt Jones
So it's difficult. As poor Shannon as the defense was at times, overall, I think the problem was scoring more than it was defensive.
- [28:18]
Max Duffy
Kentucky just looked different tonight than they have all season. I mean, even against Duke, they looked more comfortable. I don't know if it was the environment. I don't know, maybe just something that Clemson was doing defensively to sort of throw them off, but they didn't look like the same Kentucky team that we.
- [28:32]
Matt Jones
First games away, five for 13. Robinson, five for 13. Car one for seven. Those are probably your three best scores.
- [28:41]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
- [28:41]
Matt Jones
Away. Robinson and Carr, they combined to go 11 for 33 from the field.
- [28:48]
Billy Rutledge
Robinson didn't have a great night, but I'm gonna be honest, in that second half, he kind of started to show something that we would like to see a little bit more. Him being a bit more aggressive, attacking, opening the floor up for others. Like if Kobe Bray is going to get more shots, he needs guys to be able to create. So then they have to come double team. So Robinson's gonna have to be that guy that just like, just put your head down sometimes and go for it and just see if you can get that drive.
- [29:11]
Matt Jones
Let me say with Lamont Butler, we not only say he's important. 19 minutes, 16 points, six assists.
- [29:17]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, yeah.
- [29:18]
Matt Jones
In 19 minutes, that's pretty good. Who's up next?
- [29:23]
Ryan Lemond
Tyler?
- [29:24]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah.
- [29:25]
Matt Jones
Anytime you're ready, Billy. Go ahead, Tyler.
- [29:28]
Shannon The Dude
What's going on, guys? Wish the Cats would have won tonight, but it is what it is. I. Throughout watching the game, I. We saw the same thing with the dude game and unfortunately Kentucky won that game. But I worry that this team struggles all year with a team that makes you play in a half court, physical offense. And I feel like we saw it with the Duke game. Kentucky struggle with it. They won, obviously, but then tonight they were thrown in the same situation and it was a loss. And I feel like the big issue will be with just a team that plays physical and a team that makes you sit in half court and, you know, run plays and all that stuff. And it's going to be different.
- [30:23]
Matt Jones
There's no doubt. There's no doubt that's going to be, you know, I appreciate the call. Unless you're a super team, you're going to have a weakness. And the question is, can they exploit your weakness? That's ours. Ours is going to be a team that plays physical defense. Can we score on.
- [30:39]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, we said that that's how teams are going to play Kentucky.
- [30:42]
Matt Jones
They're going to. They're going to. And you know, when you're on the road, you're not going to get as many calls. Although that guy did double dribble.
- [30:48]
Max Duffy
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [30:50]
Matt Jones
To be honest with you, I didn't see it in real time.
- [30:52]
Max Duffy
I did.
- [30:53]
Matt Jones
You were the only one that mentioned it.
- [30:54]
Max Duffy
And Mario, I was like, that was a double dribble.
- [30:56]
Matt Jones
You're the only one that mentioned.
- [30:57]
Max Duffy
Yeah.
- [30:58]
Matt Jones
Nobody else. Of the 40 people there not one person mentioned it. Shannon, you were the only one that saw it.
- [31:02]
Max Duffy
Yeah.
- [31:02]
Matt Jones
STD. All right. 859-2802.
- [31:05]
Max Duffy
I know what it was almost like.
- [31:07]
Billy Rutledge
So obvious that it wasn't to everyone. I guess everyone was like, there's no way that happened.
- [31:11]
Matt Jones
Yeah. We'll take a break. 859-280-2287. It's a local toy dealers KSR post game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. This one's going to be light. But you know what, the Gonzaga one's going to be later.
- [31:26]
Ryan Lemond
Yes, it is.
- [31:27]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Going to be. But That's a Saturday night. 859-280-2287. One person writes, Matt, everybody's going to play physical against us. I assume Pope's teams will get more physical. Do you think he's. Teams play physically? Traditionally, probably not. But they've got some dudes on here who could be physical. Like, I think Almanor could be physical. I don't know if he's athletic enough.
- [31:51]
Max Duffy
Amare's got the size, the build.
- [31:54]
Matt Jones
He, Amari played really well against the guy that looks like Drew. You said he looked like.
- [32:02]
Drew Franklin
I didn't see Brad Pitt out there drooling around.
- [32:04]
Matt Jones
No, but his length really bothered that guy.
- [32:06]
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
- [32:07]
Matt Jones
Carr was the one that got worked by. And Garrison, he worked Garrison, too.
- [32:10]
Ryan Lemond
We all saw it. For the offense to start initiate with Amari Williams on the point is not good. That doesn't work. And I think it.
- [32:21]
Matt Jones
Three turnovers in the first half.
- [32:22]
Ryan Lemond
Do that one time from the point. Three turnovers and a missed shot. If he's down the block, I'm all for it, but, man, he can't initiate the offense out front. He just can't. I don't know why they run it that way.
- [32:34]
Matt Jones
When he gets the ball and he starts to dribble, what do I do? Mario?
- [32:41]
Drew Franklin
That was a crowded bar of Kentucky fans. There was a gasp when he would put.
- [32:46]
Matt Jones
Start dribbling. I'd go, no, no, no.
- [32:49]
Ryan Lemond
And one time he had it outside the lane. He was dribbling. You and I both were like, you're too far out, you're too far out. You're too far out.
- [32:56]
Billy Rutledge
This might be maybe counterintuitive, but I think if Krish is going to go out there with our lack of physicality, go get some fouls. Like, go beat some guys up. Like, go crash. Like, go crash through some guys trying to get the ball. Like, put some physical stuff on the game because that's kind of going to be his role to ignite us and get us going if we're going to put him out there.
- [33:16]
Matt Jones
I still can't believe they didn't call foul on that guy.
- [33:19]
Drew Franklin
Double dribble.
- [33:20]
Matt Jones
I mean there's not a specific play I can remember but there's no way Shannon, he played that many minutes, had 20 rebounds and didn't commit a foul.
- [33:26]
Max Duffy
There's no way.
- [33:27]
Matt Jones
No way.
- [33:27]
Max Duffy
And he did play physical of course, contrary to Kentucky.
- [33:31]
Matt Jones
So he's got away. He was 1 for 8 from 3. We were leaving him wide.
- [33:36]
Max Duffy
There was one that didn't even hit Realm. It hit glass like Ryan shot yesterday in Iowa. Clark logo.
- [33:42]
Matt Jones
Who's up next?
- [33:43]
Shannon The Dude
Jackson.
- [33:44]
Matt Jones
Jackson. Go ahead, Jackson.
- [33:48]
Shannon The Dude
Well, that's not to buy season tickets lose but. That's right.
- [33:54]
Matt Jones
You were the season ticket buyer. Yeah.
- [33:58]
Shannon The Dude
The thing that really, I mean you've already hit the nail on the head with Butler and Chris the curse. I thought I was watching dribble drive out there tonight. Sometimes the ball really seemed to stop and guys started pounding the ball into the pavement and that's in a very seldom ended well. I mean Carr had two turnovers in the lane trying to dribble it in the same way that Williams did. And so I mean I think.
- [34:32]
Matt Jones
Jackson Pope said what you're saying Pope said in the post game we had guys who got away from. From what we try to do and they started thinking about trying to fix it themselves and that's not how we win. I think that's what you're saying. Basically.
- [34:45]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, that is. And that was disappointing to see the offense just kind of. I didn't expect to see the Dribble drive tonight but you know it's. We'll turn it around. It was. It's a fun team to watch. I got cmb, Duke, so it's not all that. I can't wait till I see him in Nashville and hopefully I'll a couple more times then and we'll win the sec.
- [35:10]
Matt Jones
All right, well be careful going home. Appreciate the call. My man bought season tickets at Clemson for this game. I wish we could have gotten him.
- [35:17]
Drew Franklin
A W so close. Clemson rebounds. Well, you matched him in that and then their leading scorer, Hunter, you held him.
- [35:24]
Matt Jones
I mean we out rebounded them. We out rebounded in the second half. First half we were dreadful rebounding. Second half was bad.
- [35:29]
Drew Franklin
I mean your pregame checklist would probably have rebound with him and Lemon Hunter and what do you have? 10 points. He didn't play well from the field. He's their leading score.
- [35:37]
Matt Jones
Well I mean, Max, how many games we gonna win this year if we score 66? This team?
- [35:41]
Billy Rutledge
Not many.
- [35:42]
Matt Jones
Not many. I mean, you're. We just didn't score.
- [35:44]
Max Duffy
Yeah, again, too many of those rock fights.
- [35:47]
Matt Jones
Yeah, this is not a rock fight team. Yeah, this is not a rock fight team. We're not a rock fight team. Who's next? Luke. Luke. What's up, Luke?
- [35:56]
Billy Rutledge
Hey, guys.
- [35:56]
Shannon The Dude
Obviously a little. Obviously disappointed, just like you guys. A little frustrated too, you know, I mean, live by the three, die by the. But you can't shoot 11, 18 at the free throw line. You just can't. That's. That's a recipe for disaster right there. One thing, look, I called on after the Georgia State game and talked about how I think we should occasionally full court press and against a team like this that wants to slow you down, I really wish I would have seen a full court press at some point just to try to speed the game up. And their bigs don't handle the ball well. So this would have been a team to do that again.
- [36:29]
Matt Jones
Yeah, you know, you did say that. I told you I didn't think. We do a lot of that. You might be right. This might have been a game to do it.
- [36:36]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah. And like, I mean, obviously, I know you don't want to do that in 2024 too often and as a better team, you don't want to do it. But tonight might have been a night to try it out, but should have, could have, woulda. At the end of the day, if you knock down 10 of 27 instead of 7 of 27, you win. If you knock down 15 of 18 at free throw line, you go to overtime. But again, shoulda, coulda, woulda. It is what it is. If you win on Saturday, we'll find out a lot about this team because if they can come back and win on Saturday against a very good Gonzaga team, you know, then it doesn't matter. You got to split on the road trip and you build from there. But, you know, just a frustrating game. But I do like that they didn't quit. They fought. I mean, they got absolutely out muscled and outmanned in the first half and in the second half, they didn't buy. Yeah, yeah, we got out, rebounded by 10 in the first half and we ended tied. So that means we out rebounded them by 10 in the second half. So that shows that they did. They did man up in the second half and decided to be physical. But at the end of the day, the shots just didn't fall and that Play that Pope ran to get away. That shot in the corner. I have seen many coaches run a play just like that, and it almost always works. Actually, John, Cal Perry, when he had things rolling, that was one of his favorite things to do at the end of games. Frank Vogel did it in Indiana as well when he was coaching there.
- [37:59]
Matt Jones
But they got the shots they wanted. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate the call. They got the shots they wanted there at the end. They got the shots they wanted on those threes. Oh, I missed them. I mean, like, what do you on that? Of all my complaints, that's. But by the way, he missed badly on those shots. I mean, they were. They were not close.
- [38:17]
Drew Franklin
Ryan needed makers, not shooters.
- [38:19]
Ryan Lemond
Not only did they not they got the shot, they got one of the guys. I think they wanted taking the shot. I think they would take that.
- [38:26]
Matt Jones
There would be people, though, who would say, maybe considering how he was shooting.
- [38:31]
Max Duffy
All right, you picked up that chronic cough from that server at Pennies.
- [38:35]
Matt Jones
You've been hacking a lot.
- [38:38]
Ryan Lemond
Starting to be a little scratchy. Get some water.
- [38:41]
Drew Franklin
Here he comes.
- [38:41]
Matt Jones
There might be some people, though, who would say maybe Brea should have been in for that shot.
- [38:45]
Ryan Lemond
I don't know why he was didn't play much the second half. I mean, I don't think he was in foul trouble. I don't know if he's getting beat on defense. Somebody needs to tell me why he wasn't on the floor.
- [38:54]
Matt Jones
All right, well, I'll demand an answer for you.
- [38:56]
Billy Rutledge
All right, tell him I need soft again, though. When you ask for something, don't go soft, demand it. Don't let him get away with something. Almost losing everybody.
- [39:06]
Matt Jones
Did you almost fall off the seat?
- [39:08]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, foot backwards.
- [39:09]
Matt Jones
Look, I know it's late, but you are falling apart. We only have a segment and a half left.
- [39:15]
Drew Franklin
Can you get Staunton all over me? I was leaning back to the other way and I was.
- [39:18]
Matt Jones
All right, who's next? Todd. Todd. Go ahead, Todd.
- [39:23]
Shannon The Dude
Oh, Matt.
- [39:24]
Matt Jones
What's up?
- [39:25]
Shannon The Dude
Have a good dinner tonight.
- [39:27]
Matt Jones
We. We've had a great trip. Tonight was a lot of fun. Tonight was a good day all the way around. Except when Max got threatened. I was talking about where you was.
- [39:37]
Shannon The Dude
Going to eat dinner, that Max was wanting Australian food and.
- [39:44]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah, we didn't go to the Australian place. But Ryan has a chance to fix that tomorrow. We it on the morning show. But yes, we did have a good place. Mario did well. He picked a good place and it was perfect for all the fans. We had a lot of space for everybody. It was good.
- [39:58]
Drew Franklin
Mario did great.
- [39:59]
Shannon The Dude
Well, good. I was listening to your pregame show today and I don't know if somebody on there mentioned it or if. If Jimmy Dykes mentioned it before the game. Someone made the comment that Clemson didn't play very good defense and I thought they played pretty good deep.
- [40:25]
Matt Jones
No, no, they did. They are a pretty good defensive team. They actually, I think their weakest position on defense is probably their point guard. I mean, if you notice, Butler could take him almost every time. Creason was not able to, but Butler was. But yeah, no, they play good defense and they're big, they're physical. I mean, they bump you. The refs didn't call a ton and so it worked out for him.
- [40:46]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, number four, he was. He was really pumped up, wasn't it? He don't look at athletic either.
- [40:54]
Matt Jones
Looks kind of like Ryan, but.
- [40:59]
Shannon The Dude
I just didn't think we played very well tonight. Played better in the second half but, you know, we. I just didn't think we played.
- [41:07]
Matt Jones
No, we didn't play great. I mean, if we had won, we would have stolen it. And I appreciate the call and we had a shot too, but. But we didn't. All right, Billy, Do I need to take a break right now?
- [41:16]
Max Duffy
Yes, yes, that'd be good.
- [41:17]
Matt Jones
Billy's like, there's this 2:00 in the morning thing, so I need to take a break.
- [41:20]
Max Duffy
What happens at 2:00?
- [41:21]
Matt Jones
At 2:00 in the morning, Billy says the station will explode.
- [41:25]
Max Duffy
Really? Get out of there. Going quick.
- [41:28]
Matt Jones
So we have to take a break. I don't know how that helps, Billy. How does me taking a break now help?
- [41:32]
Max Duffy
Oh, the log resets at 2, so.
- [41:34]
Matt Jones
If we were in a commercial break at 2, then who knows what would happen? So what would happen?
- [41:39]
Max Duffy
No, I kind of want to see what would happen. Let's just drag this out for another couple of minutes.
- [41:44]
Matt Jones
No, I don't want Billy to get stressed. We'll take a break, we'll come back, we'll do the final segment and we'll go to bed and see you in eight hours. This is the Kentucky local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR postgame show. We got five people on. We're going to take them and then we're going to call it a night. 859-280-22871 Little interesting tidbit. We were at Iowa Max on yesterday. On yesterday. And we all took shots from a certain point on the court.
- [42:20]
Billy Rutledge
Yeah, I was Gonna say not Mario. Shots.
- [42:22]
Matt Jones
You know, we took basketball shots from the logo where Caitlin Clark hit her shot to break the scoring record. Tonight, it was on the other side of the court, but the same spot, Iowa hit a buzzer beater to beat Northwestern from that spot. I think that's reversed the KSR curse.
- [42:42]
Billy Rutledge
Absolutely. And I know, you know, I don't want to upset you. I know you've announced your retirement this week, but maybe they saw your film, saw what not to do, and then just kind of did the opposite.
- [42:52]
Matt Jones
You just kind of, you know, you saw me. It was the key is where your elbow is.
- [42:56]
Billy Rutledge
Or maybe they played Drew's tape. Drew made one from there, so maybe they played that one.
- [42:59]
Drew Franklin
I do think something about us being there really helped him out. You know, they had just had a bad loss. Our friend Austin that showed us around. You can tell he's a little nervous about the game. I thought we brought good vibes, good energy in the Iowa building. And that's why they won.
- [43:11]
Matt Jones
Louisville, by the way, lost tonight by 25 at home to old man.
- [43:15]
Max Duffy
Was anybody there to see it? Yeah, full crap.
- [43:18]
Matt Jones
Buddy bought tickets like 20 rows up for 10 bucks.
- [43:22]
Drew Franklin
They're perfectly broken, so it's not good.
- [43:24]
Matt Jones
Who's next?
- [43:25]
Shannon The Dude
Harold.
- [43:26]
Matt Jones
Harold. How are you, Harold?
- [43:29]
Shannon The Dude
Hey, I'm doing good. First time, long time.
- [43:32]
Matt Jones
Who are. What's up?
- [43:35]
Shannon The Dude
Hey, I just wanted to say, without getting too into the weeds, I'm not super impressed with the Pope offense so far.
- [43:44]
Matt Jones
Well, we let. Hang on a second. We did lead the country in scoring until tonight.
- [43:50]
Shannon The Dude
Sure. Yeah. We played a lot of.
- [43:52]
Matt Jones
You know, we played. One of those teams we played was Duke. Yeah, sure.
- [43:57]
Shannon The Dude
And we played six other teams that. Arnold are great. You can admit that, right?
- [44:02]
Matt Jones
Yeah. But I mean, I'd like you to show me how many teams. I mean, how many offenses in the country haven't had a game where they've scored 66.
- [44:13]
Shannon The Dude
Oh, you're. You're right. I'm just worried that when people are saying, live by the three, dive. Right, three. That we've had two or three games now where we've not been awful by the three, but we haven't been very good.
- [44:28]
Matt Jones
And, well, there's going to be games. I mean, there's going to be games where we don't shoot well. I mean, you know, under the cow offensive system, we lost games under pretty much every offensive system ever known to man. You lose.
- [44:44]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, but we didn't even shoot that poorly from three tonight. And we.
- [44:49]
Matt Jones
We were seven. We were seven for 20. We were seven for 27. That's bad.
- [44:55]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, that is, that is pretty bad. But it, it could, you know, 26 nearing 33%. Yeah, I understand. But you're getting close.
- [45:05]
Matt Jones
If we had shot 33%, we would have won.
- [45:10]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, probably.
- [45:12]
Matt Jones
Okay. Appreciate the call.
- [45:14]
Shannon The Dude
Okay.
- [45:15]
Matt Jones
Yep.
- [45:16]
Max Duffy
I mean they shot similar, they shot similar to that in the previous two games. And one.
- [45:22]
Matt Jones
Not sure what his argument.
- [45:23]
Max Duffy
Yeah, So I mean we'd shot 33%.
- [45:26]
Billy Rutledge
We don't want where when people say living, like live by the three, die by three as well, that's literally one of our best places to score. Like, it's not as if, like it's just some crazy thing that's come out of nowhere. A lot of teams shoot a lot of threes.
- [45:39]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [45:40]
Billy Rutledge
So like it's not just some like, phenomenon where we're like, we're rolling the dice here to see if we win every game. It's just a good way to score.
- [45:46]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean three of the four teams that went to the final four last year were really, really good three point.
- [45:55]
Billy Rutledge
If anything, we could have shot more tonight. Run some more.
- [45:58]
Matt Jones
Like Hope says he wants to shoot 35. We shot 27, so maybe we should shot more.
- [46:04]
Max Duffy
I guarantee if you took eight more, you're going to hit at least two of those. Yeah. And there's the game.
- [46:10]
Matt Jones
And 26 is almost 33.
- [46:14]
Max Duffy
Not quite leading to it.
- [46:15]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
- [46:15]
Matt Jones
Who's up next?
- [46:16]
Max Duffy
Sure, Alex.
- [46:20]
Matt Jones
Billy's getting a little sassy. Alex. Go ahead, Alex.
- [46:25]
Shannon The Dude
So first time, long time. Harold's kind of a. Well, he, he don't know but the basketball bennies, I guess, but. Shout out. Shout out. Drew and Ryan from being from my neck of the woods, Newburgh, Indiana. Close enough. But. But I just think that, I mean they out physical to us, you know, and they fought us off ball screens and they out. Out physical to us enough to where we couldn't shoot threes and they took us out of our game. And I think it is what it is and I think everybody should still be happy with Mark Pope because I, you know, it is what it is and I think we're going to be just fine.
- [47:03]
Matt Jones
All right. I appreciate it. One person writes Matt asked Billy why Salt Shaker just started playing on 8:40 at 2:00am Twins.
- [47:13]
Billy Rutledge
I don't know.
- [47:13]
Matt Jones
I'm not sure about that one. Well, so maybe people aren't hearing us on 8:40. They're hearing salt Shaker. I'd hate that for us. All right, well.
- [47:24]
Drew Franklin
But he will not apologize.
- [47:27]
Matt Jones
Three more. Who's next?
- [47:28]
Max Duffy
We had somebody drop, so we just have two right now.
- [47:30]
Matt Jones
Two more. That's okay. We'll finish with two. It's late.
- [47:32]
Billy Rutledge
Dougie.
- [47:33]
Matt Jones
Dougie. Go ahead, Dougie.
- [47:36]
Shannon The Dude
Hey, what's going on? Matt first.
- [47:38]
Matt Jones
What's going on? Who off?
- [47:42]
Shannon The Dude
All right, so I got. I got two quick points for you guys, and I'll hang up and listen. First off tonight, I got a lot of people on Twitter are talking about Kobe Bryant's plus minus.
- [47:53]
Matt Jones
And, yeah, kind of there with. It was minus 16. Yeah, it was low. Exactly.
- [47:59]
Shannon The Dude
Everybody's talking about him with, you know, Kirk Reese and Brandon Garrison plus minus tonight. And I. I guess my first point is that I think. I think we can all agree that Kobe Bryant has a defensive deficiency.
- [48:12]
Matt Jones
Yes.
- [48:12]
Shannon The Dude
And I just think as a coach, you would. You would want to mask that, right? You kind of want to. You want to mask that he's got a defensive deficiency. So in my opinion, I think he should get more minutes with Lamont Butler, Ortega Owe, and Amari Williams on the court with him. So you got three elite defenders, and that way you can kind of mask his deficiencies defensively a little bit because, you know, you're throwing him on the court with Kirkhresa, you throw him on the court with Kirkhresa, who's also notoriously not a great defender. And I think that's going to just, you know, make, you know, everybody's life a little. A little more difficult when you got multiple bad defenders on the court. So that's my first point, and I'll let you guys talk about that. My second point is I'm a little bit worried about. About our big men. And my point being is that this is the second good team I would say we've played this year. First game was first. First good team was obviously Duke. And against Duke, I think you could genuinely. Obviously, I think we played a good game against Duke, especially in the second half, but I think you could genuinely make the argument that we maybe would have lost that game if my watch didn't go out with cramps.
- [49:24]
Matt Jones
You're probably right.
- [49:25]
Shannon The Dude
And you're probably.
- [49:26]
Matt Jones
But we might have won tonight if Butler didn't get. We might have got one tonight if Butler didn't turn his name.
- [49:32]
Shannon The Dude
Exactly. Exactly. I completely agree with you, but I think you could make the. Make it. Make the case that if Malawatch didn't go out with Krantz, we maybe would have struggled in those last nine, 10 minutes there. So I just think our big men got a little bit. It was a little bit better in the second half. But they got bullied a little bit tonight.
- [49:51]
Matt Jones
No, they're not. Listen, our big men are not elite. Our big men are not elite. I mean, I appreciate the call. I think Amare is a really good defender, Drew. But offensively they're not elite. And I think Amare is a decent rebounder, but he also can get outworked sometimes. I think he did in the first half.
- [50:09]
Drew Franklin
And we've seen something out of him just recently. He gets a little emotional too, when things gone wrong and it's affected him. You know, one bad play turns into a couple.
- [50:17]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [50:18]
Drew Franklin
And you know, for every amazing pass he makes, as he is a good passer, we also see a lot of turnovers when he's trying to make those passes. So, I mean, he'll give you a lot of good, but there's also a lot of bad with him, too. I feel like Pope just needs to reel him in a little bit. Like, hey, you don't always have to try to take your man off the dribble or try to make that perfect pass to a guy making a back door cut. Because he does do a lot. I mean, defensively he's great. I think he's rebounding well, but he. He is way too turnover prone.
- [50:43]
Matt Jones
Yeah. He doesn't need to ever effort. Let's do one more and we'll all go to bed. Who's next?
- [50:48]
Max Duffy
Paul.
- [50:48]
Matt Jones
Paul, by the way, for Paul says this, one person goes, these are my favorite shows when you are late at night. If we were winning, you all would be drunk, giddy. This is sad, but still fun.
- [50:58]
Drew Franklin
Well, we're about to go watch videos about the Denver airport.
- [51:01]
Max Duffy
Yeah.
- [51:02]
Drew Franklin
So we're excited.
- [51:06]
Matt Jones
Aliens.
- [51:07]
Billy Rutledge
Yeah. Okay. Monkey.
- [51:08]
Matt Jones
Well, that's what Paul.
- [51:11]
Shannon The Dude
It's first time, long time monkey bread. You guys got me.
- [51:20]
Matt Jones
Yes. Go ahead.
- [51:22]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah. You guys have just beat the basketball death. Don't do that. But I want to give a feel good story. This is my daughter and I's first true road game for a UK game. And we bought tickets up in the. In the third row from the top. And we were splitting a bunch of Clemson fans and we said, hey, why don't you guys just take our seats? Y'all can sit together and we'll sit on the end. So we did that, and lo and behold, as we were sitting there, somebody from the UK staff came up and said, hey, would you guys like an upgrade? And they gave us tickets six rows behind the bench. So we got to move down and watch the game there tonight. And it was. He said, Courtesy of Coach Pope and Ms. Leanne. So I just want to give him a shout out. That was a great blessing. My daughter and I loved it.
- [52:02]
Matt Jones
Had they just walked all the way to the top, saw you guys and brought you down.
- [52:08]
Shannon The Dude
Yes, sir. He handed me two tickets, like, you know, the old school printable tickets. Gave me two tickets. And then there was another eight people around us that all got upgraded from the nosebleed section they brought down to be in behind the bench for the game tonight. It was, it was completely awesome. It was a great environment. Hate the outcome, but man, it was a great, great game. I give, I give props to Clemson. They were super loud, noisy environment and you know, right there by the student section, it was wild.
- [52:35]
Matt Jones
That's very cool though. That's a very cool thing that they would go up there to the people who came at the top. That's a. That is a nice feel good way to end. And I'm glad you got to go with your daughter. Thank you very much.
- [52:46]
Shannon The Dude
Yeah, y'all have a good one. Thanks, guys.
- [52:48]
Matt Jones
That is a neat way to start. All right, before we get out of here, give me one sentence on the night.
- [52:56]
Drew Franklin
Stop dribbling Amari.
- [52:58]
Matt Jones
Right?
- [52:59]
Drew Franklin
I love him. I love him. He's my favorite. But we got it. We got to reel him in a little bit.
- [53:02]
Ryan Lemond
Big thank you to everyone that came to celebrate. Watch the game with us at Fort Collins tonight.
- [53:07]
Max Duffy
Let Kobe shoot.
- [53:08]
Matt Jones
All right.
- [53:09]
Billy Rutledge
And Max, one hour to Denver import. Let's go check it out. Let's go find out what's really happening.
- [53:14]
Matt Jones
We're not doing that. Thank you all very much. Tomorrow we are in Windsor for the show. If you would like to come, send a DM to either me or Ryan and we'll give you the address. Thank you guys all seriously for coming out tonight. It was great. We will see you in eight hours at 10am Eastern. This has been the local toy dealers KSR post game show. If you're a maintenance supervisor for a commercial property, you've had to deal with everything from leaky faucets to flickering light bulbs. But nothing's worse than that ancient boiler that's lived in the building since the day it was built 50 years ago. It's enough to make anyone lose their cool. That's where Granger comes in. With industrial grade products and dependable, fast delivery, Granger can help with any challenge from worn out components to everyday necessities.
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