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Matt Jones
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Billy Reed
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Matt Jones
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Billy Reed
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Billy Reed
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Billy Reed
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Caller
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Billy Reed
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Caller
It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru.
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Billy Reed
Back then I lied to everybody.
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Caller
They have had this case for 30 years.
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Billy Reed
I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast.
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Matt Jones
Each week we're bringing you true crime
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Billy Reed
through a legal lens.
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Caller
Whether want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still
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Billy Reed
need to wrap your head around the Diddy verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step. And we're not just lawyers, we're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes. Listen to Legally Brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome everyone. It is the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show the cats lay an egg in College Station. Fall to Texas A&M 96 to 85 in a game that really is is frustrating and included maybe the worst stretch of basketball Kentucky has played since the Gonzaga game. 859-280-2287 I you know, I said on the pregame show that you could really have any result in this game and it wouldn't shock me whether it was Kentucky winning by 10 or losing by 15, I think is what I said. And we got the latter of those. We got a 11 point loss, but at one point Kentucky was up by 10. So you could have had a different result. But this game came down to essentially a nine minute stretch. If you take the first 11 minutes. I thought Kentucky looked excellent offensively crisp getting to the basket, probably more dunks than they've had all year. I think they had like five early on, open looks from three, sharing the ball, beating the press. I thought they were, they were excellent and then just completely collapsed in the last nine minutes. And Texas A and M, the. You've heard the notion, we've heard the phrase Buckyball. If you were to look up what buckyball is at its, at its most successful moment, you would see those last nine minutes of the first half. Kentucky let themselves get rattled and Mark Pope with an inexplicable set of substitutions that I still don't know what, what, what, what he was thinking. Basically did the one thing that has consist. If there's one thing that is consistently not worked all season, it's putting in four subs at at once. And for a stretch of about 73 seconds I counted Billy, he had away and Aberdeen both on the bench and he had the lineup of, of Johnson, Chandler, Noah, yellow, Vich and Garrison in and it was an 80 run and Kentucky went from up five to down three and then. Excuse me, up. Yeah, up five to down three and then they just took off and even when starters were brought back in, didn't really step up and you got the result you had. It was funny. Kentucky had a shot, it was 30 to 18 and Tucky got a steal and had a wide open Noah 3 that if he hits would have put it us up 15. He misses, they get the rebound, come down, hit an open three and it just, the game got out of control and we only scored three more points the rest of the half and ended up taking the loss. So, you know, I mean a couple of bright spots, I guess. Diabate played pretty well. What 18 points? Ramadan 19. Ramadan MO is a thing, right? It's crazy. You know, he, he ate on the bench for the first time. That was interesting how they pointed that out. Be something to watch in the SEC tournament, etc. Like when you can't drink water if Kentucky plays during the day. But he played well and you know, it was good to see I guess in the second half, Trent Noah hit a couple shots since he hadn't in a long time, but otherwise, you know, you look. Colin Chandler only has five attempts. You're not going to win if Colin Chandler only has five attempts. I think the part of that is on him for aggressive play, 34 minutes. If you're Colin Chandler, you only take five shots. It's got to be better than that. They were five threes, he only made one. Not go in like that. You're just not. And got completely obliterated by their bench. Their bench had, it looks to me, Billy, 57 points and our bench had 39, which is actually quite a bit for us. But 57, yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. And we shot 48. We both teams shot 48% but the difference is they hit 13 threes and we hit eight. And so on the one hand you could look at it and just say, well, they hit five more threes. They hit shots we didn't. And I guess there's something to that. But I also think the reality is in that nine minute stretch we were outplayed. And I'm, I was frustrated during that stretch about the effort, I was frustrated about the substitution pattern and I just. This team makes no sense to me. You don't know when they're going to be good, you don't know when they're going to be bad. And then you have games like today, first half like today where they're both. For 11 minutes you see Kentucky at their best and for nine minutes you see them at their absolute worst. And I think ultimately what's going to hold Kentucky back if they're not able to make a March run is this Kentucky at its best is a pretty good team. But unfortunately what we've seen this year is can this Kentucky team at its worst is abysmal. Our best might be like when we're playing our best, we might be like 8th to 10th best team in the country. But when we're at our worst, we're not even like a tournament team. And I'm not sure I've ever seen a Kentucky team who's high and low. The variance is greater than this one. I can't think of one. The Reed and Rob team was kind of like that, but this one is even more so. And I'll just give you a stat. Kentucky has now lost to Georgia. Who are the team. What were the games we lost where everybody had lost all those games coming in Georgia. Well, I should. Auburn, Georgia, Auburn. And now tonight against A and M. And if you look at those three games going into the game. Those three teams, Billy, were 3 and 16 coming into our games. In their last, in their last six to seven games, three and 16 coming into the Kentucky games and all of them beat us. And yet we wanted Arkansas beat Tennessee twice and be Vandy, you know, how do you explain that? Our good is very good, but it's not great. But our bad is awful. And the problem is at least tonight the bad was so much worse than the good was good. Then we take the loss. 859-280-2287. There's actually been a ton of news today. Obviously Mitch Barnhart announced his resignation and there's a lot that has even happened since our show about that. I'm gonna say let's put Mitch Barnhart and all that on hold until tomorrow as much as possible and let's talk about this game and all the stuff with Mitchell we'll, we'll deal with in more detail tomorrow. But well, by the way, also SEC tournament, Missouri lost tonight. Had Kentucky won. They had a legitimate shot at the three seed in the SEC term. But now that they've lost, there's a chance. Billy, they're playing on Wednesday.
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Matt Jones
No, Wednesday still in play.
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Billy Reed
Yeah, there's now a better chance, I think that they play on Wednesday than they don't. As crazy as that is, had they won, they had a shot at being the three seed in the SEC tournament and now they could drop all the way to 10th because everything that happened tonight fell about as bad as it could have for Kentucky. We need, if Arkansas beats Texas tomorrow, then we're guaranteed to not be 10th. But we still could play on Wednesday. As a matter of fact, I think playing on Wednesday, if you look at the scenarios might be the most likely scenario at this point in the first game of the tournament. That's back on the table. 859280, 22, 87. We will take a break and take your calls. This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show. Welcome back Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame show. 859-280-2287. Right now let's see, you've got Vandy at Ole Miss. They Vandy leads 69, 68. We probably need Ole Miss or we. It would, we would help us if Ole Miss were to win this game. So I think you should, you should be. If you're, if you're at home and you want to have something happen, positive for Kentucky. I think you want Ole Miss to win this game against Vandy. But we will see. Right now, Vandy leads by one with 2 minutes and 45 seconds to go. In a thing that I won't talk about, except more to say. Except just to say this. I have, like, literally only Billy, one politician in America I like right now, and he won tonight. James Tallery.
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Matt Jones
Oh, he's gonna win, huh?
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Billy Reed
It's looking like he's gonna win. And if I disappear to Texas for a couple weeks this summer, you'll know why.
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Matt Jones
Now we know why you're going to Austin.
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Billy Reed
All those years I didn't know him then, but. But nevertheless. All right, who's up first?
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Matt Jones
Jay is.
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Billy Reed
Jay. Go ahead, Jay.
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Caller
Hi, Matt. I think the point that I was trying to make, and without saying a million stats, is that it just seems to me, without talking about firing Mark Pope or any of that. I'm sure you're tired of talking about that. It does seem to me, though, like we've seen enough. Where it seems like the chance that Mark Pope is going to be able to uphold the standard of Kentucky basketball as the number one program, those chances are looking increasingly slim to me. And I guess the most concise way I could put it would be to say that right here in the sec, we've got Nate Oates and Todd golden, and Mark Pope does not seem to be in that league, and those guys are both younger than him and have better track records. So I guess. Do you agree with me?
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Billy Reed
And if you don't, what's your optimistic? Yeah, great question. I. I don't. If you were to sort of articulate my worries about Pope, I think that would be the best way to say it. I. I think when people say Pope can't coach, I. I do not think that's true. I think Pope is very bright. I think he does things that don't make sense to me, and he is probably too wedded to the numbers and to his predisposition as to what he needs to do in games. At the same time, though, I think he does some really intelligent stuff, but you just hit it the best way to put it, which is, he can be really good, but can he be great? That's ultimately the question, because I can see greatness in John Shire. I can see greatness in Nate Oates. I can see greatness in Todd Golden. I can see greatness in Danny Hurley. But, like, take someone like Hubert Davis. Can Hubert Davis put a winning team on the floor? Yes. But do you think Hubert Davis can be great?
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Caller
And I think he played in the, say, what he coached in the championship game. So he had.
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Billy Reed
But that. But that's a. But that's a run. He went on a run, right? Mike Davis coached in the championship game. You know, I mean, Mike Davis went to the championship and then he got fired at UAB 10 years later. So you can. Kevin Ali won a national championship, so like you can make a run. The question is, do you trust Hubert Davis to be consistently great every year? And my answer is probably not. I worry about that with Mark Pope is can he be great? I don't think he's bad and I think he is actually good. But can he be great? And I, I worry about it because we just lose by massive amounts too much. You know what I mean? Like, we get down. We get down by 20 like all the time. And that just seems to me to be something a coach at Kentucky shouldn't do.
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Caller
Do. Matt, I think you this my last thing. I think you just even more sort of highlighted the weakness of Mark Pope's track record. Because I think when Pope left BYU it was like, well, that's this small time program. BYU got a top 10 player in the country today for next year. They have one of the best players in the country for this year. They haven't missed a beat. And Mark Pope didn't. If you look at that record coming into Kentucky, you know, you're saying these guys that weren't that good, they went on a run. Mark Pope never went on a run.
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Billy Reed
That's true. But he wasn't there very long, to be fair. I mean, he, he was only there. He wasn't there very long. I appreciate the call. So I, I'm not saying it's impossible that he can be great, but I do sort of look for the things to convince me he will be great. And there are some great wins, but I don't know, man, losing by the amounts that they, the amount of times this team gets down 20 is just, I mean, you don't. That doesn't happen. You know, Bill Self, they've lost a couple times this year by big margins. And it's been like, whoa, that's happening to Bill Self. Well, it's happening to us all the time this year. And last year, if we're honest, we lost games by crazy amounts last year too. This was, it didn't end up being crazy, but we were down 20 at one point tonight. Who's next?
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Matt Jones
Well, a great coach would call a timeout when the other team's on a.
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Billy Reed
Well, okay, I'm glad you brought that up. So 27 to 3 run during the 130 run, he never called a timeout. And what's insane about that to me is you lose a timeout at the end of the first half. So he didn't even call the timeout that you lose.
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Matt Jones
They use it or lose it.
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Billy Reed
Didn't even it's a use it or lose it timeout. And until the very end of the first half, he was content on just losing it. That's wild to me. I mean, you can't take it. You know, they say about when you die, you can't take your money with you. Well, you can't take your timeouts with you either. And I don't know. I don't know how you put. Billy, I am not a coach. I don't know how you.
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Caller
You.
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Billy Reed
You watch this team play and think you can have Aberdeen and away both on the bench.
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Matt Jones
Well, Aberdeen had two fouls early.
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Billy Reed
I don't care. What good does it do for him to not get a third foul if we're down 14 at halftime?
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Matt Jones
Well, like earlier this year, they could have advanced a lead farther and probably put the game away. Instead, they let the team back in.
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Billy Reed
That just not falling down 13.
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Matt Jones
When you were up 12.
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Billy Reed
When you were up 12, Aberdeen. You cannot have Aberdeen on the bench for more than a couple minutes. Not because he's the best player, but just because we are lost without him on offense. And you saw it tonight. Who's next?
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Matt Jones
Tyler.
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Billy Reed
Tyler. Go ahead, Tyler.
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Caller
Matt, you know, I'm. I don't know if I'm crazy for saying this, but for me, I'm like, why don't we play the AOC Trio until they either foul out or they literally can't breathe anymore? That's what I get, that we gotta have subs.
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Billy Reed
Well, you know, the first time, though, he did round of subs. Okay, so the first set of subs he put in, I thought he did it the right way. He would bring in. He had, like, Jasper in with Chandler out. Then when he brought Chandler back in, he took Jasper out, put Noah in. He was doing like, one at a time, and I think that works. And then all of a sudden, he just decided to do this mass sub. And I don't get that.
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Caller
Oh, I. I agree with you there. I have so many times this year I've gone, why is, like, why is Jasper in now? And then when the first round of subs camera was like, okay, we actually played well. And I have.
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Billy Reed
But you know what I. What I've noticed with Jasper. Jasper plays his best when he's in With Aberdeen, that's actually when he plays the best. If when he came in tonight, we were up one, and then when he went out the first time, we were up nine. And it was because he played with Aberdeen that whole time. And then when Aberdeen went out and they brought Jasper in, that's when we started to struggle. I think I. I think it would actually do Jasper some good to play with Aberdeen because I just think it takes some of the. The stress off of him. But go ahead.
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Caller
Oh, I completely agree with you. So I know earlier on the show this morning and then on the pregame show, y' all brought up, quote, buckyball. And I was like, I don't even know what that is. And then I realized what it was watching the game and I was like, I feel like this is a recipe for a blowout. And then watching the guys play, I was like, man, we've responded like we've kind of grown up because I feel like earlier in the year we would have gotten run off the floor. And we eventually did, but we were playing really good when it started. But then I'm like, okay, out of nowhere, obviously. Then when the second round of subs came, it went all to nothing. And I was like. Then I. Then I came to my big point. I was like. And kind of what you said at the beginning, I'm like, this team just in for March, for the whole fan base, I feel like this is some advice. This team just is what it is. We could.
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Billy Reed
It is what it is every game. It is what it is, you know, anything.
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Caller
And that is so frustrating for us as a fan base to go, we could lose by 20. We could win by 20. We could win a close game. We could lose a close game. But I guess at the same time, though, like, okay, well, I guess March could be the.
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Billy Reed
We have a shot in any game. I appreciate the call, but we can lose any game. Here's what Buckyball is. Buckyball is what you do when you have a team that is not as talented as the teams you're playing. You try to disrupt them, and when you play really good teams, you're going to get destroyed. And we looked like a really good team in the first 10 minutes, but then we fell into their trap, which is you get sped up, you start to hurry, then you start to play like them and they're better at it than you. And then when they hit some shots. But part of the frustration, too, is that, you know, their crap. There was nobody even at that game. It wasn't like Their crowd was crazy. It wasn't like the place was rocking. There was nobody there and we still lost. Who's next?
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Matt Jones
Sosa.
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Billy Reed
Sosa. Go ahead. Sosa, go ahead.
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Caller
Yeah, I think guys had to. Yeah, yeah, One second. Matt. I would like Billy's perspective on the game because honest to God, I feel like I'm not sure about you. Matt, I love you, but you talk crap one way and then cover up crap the other way.
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Billy Reed
I don't know what that means. Did you. What? Tonight? Did you think tonight went well?
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Caller
Absolutely not. Okay, so. But just yesterday you were saying. Yeah, yeah, or actually what I'd like to get at, honestly. And I'd like Billy's.
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Billy Reed
But wait a minute. But I let Billy do his thing. But what are you talking about? We did play well yesterday. I spoke well of how they.
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Caller
We played well for nine minutes.
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Billy Reed
No. Yes, we beat Vandy. We destroyed Vandy in Saturday.
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Caller
Yesterday. We beat Vandy.
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Billy Reed
No, we beat him Saturday and I talked about it.
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Caller
Okay, then let's.
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Billy Reed
And I appreciate the call. I, I'll. Billy, I'll let you describe the game. But, but, but, I mean, yes, I did say different things about the team yesterday because Saturday we beat Vandy by a lot and played excellent. Today we did not play well. If I came on here and said we're still great after today, you would think I had lost my mind. The reason I go back and forth is because this team goes back and forth. Now, Billy, give your take on the game.
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Matt Jones
I just, I'm tired of hearing that other teams were more desperate than Kentucky or that they wanted it more. What's it going to take to motivate this Kentucky team? I mean, at times, I mean, they didn't even care about possessions that they had and you have to care about every single possession, Matt. So, like motivation just varies on this team so much. Brandon Garrison said after the game that they relaxed as a team and then they never responded. Well, I'd argue this is a team that should never relax. I mean, you have blown some bad leads and I don't think that they should relax at all. So it's. It's frustrating. It really is.
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Billy Reed
It is very frustrating. I agree. I don't really know what's happening in this Vandy Ole Miss game. You probably don't have it on because it's on the computer. But what's happening? Well, it looks like I thought Ole Miss was going to the line to. With the game tied and it looks like they're reviewing a play that occurred like 30 seconds before. To see if there was a hook and hole. But they had already went ahead and played the next play, which I didn't think you could do that, but they did. And if they call it then Vandy's gonna end up getting like technical free throws. Oh, when it's just 25 seconds to go. What a bizarre. I've never, I've never seen that before. Where they could go back in time and say, you know that play a little while ago, we should have called something else on that.
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Matt Jones
I've seen it for goaltending, but never someone else.
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Billy Reed
After review it says play at 54 seconds has been upgraded to a flagrant one. So they are going back in time and calling a flagrant one on a play that occurred earlier in the game,
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Matt Jones
opening up a Pandora's box.
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Billy Reed
Never, never seen that before in my, in my years of watching, watching basketball. I mean, I can see why they called it because he did grab the guy's leg. But like once, once the play's gone on, I can't believe you could go back. All right, who's next?
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Matt Jones
Alex.
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Billy Reed
Alex. Go ahead, Alex.
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Caller
Hey, Matt. I'm pretty close to the same age, if not the same age as Drew and he talks about the 96, all that 98. I can't watch the 96, 98 and 2012 One Shining Moment videos on YouTube without tearing up. I just can't.
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Billy Reed
I agree that way too.
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Caller
I mean, I'm serious. Like I don't if this time of year I'll put them on and like I get so misty eyed just remembering what we used to be. And now it's like we're a glorified AAU team. That's what it feels like to see us play. We don't hustle on defense. We don't do the stuff that we are known for doing. It. It's not that the players are different, it's just. We just don't walk into the building like we're the champ anymore. And it absolutely kills me.
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Billy Reed
I understand. I mean, I, I get it. I'm like you with the 96 and 98. Every year, usually before the tournament, I'll put on the ones we win and then other ones where I know we had a good run, where we're in the video and yeah, it stinks. I mean, the reality is the last, the last really good NCAA tournament moment that we had is, I mean, we beat Illinois last year, but I don't know that there's a moment that came out of that game. So probably the last big time March Madness moment we had was when Tyler Hero hit that shot against Houston. And what year is that? Is that 2019. So, I mean, it's been seven years. So I know how you feel and
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Caller
what it feels like to me watching the version of our team now, the players, the way that we're looked at, it's like, and I know you're a professional wrestling fan, it's like somebody that maybe was in the main event of, like, Survivor Series 93 or the world Rumble and now they're touring, doing, like, high school gyms. Like, it's still the same person, but it doesn't have the attraction that it did before.
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Billy Reed
I understand. I appreciate the call. I, we, you know, I've been around a lot of that when in, in wrestling and, you know, sometimes people come in and it doesn't remind you what it used to be. I don't feel like we're that yet. This is not Mickey Rourke and the wrestler. But I don't know, I don't know what some. You have to think about what the wrestling analogy is, but I, but it's. You're not terribly far off. All right, let's do, let's do one more and then we'll take a break. Who's next?
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Matt Jones
Caleb.
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Billy Reed
Caleb. Go ahead, Caleb.
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Caller
Hey, Matt. First time, long time.
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Billy Reed
Who are. What's up?
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Caller
So I was at the game tonight. I'm on my way home and I'm glad you noticed it because I was wondering how it would show on tv, but that arena was, like, half empty. I was kind of shocked at how disappointed the turnout was for Texas A and M. I went to the Texas game last year and they turned up. They kind of scared me a little bit. They were really into it, but at the end of the game, BBN was in it. We were all up, you know, going crazy. And then on that sub switch, they kind of just made us sit down and shut up for the rest of the game. And it is like one of the worst feelings in the world to be at an away game and see the other team going crazy. And I'm just sitting there watching a crime happen in front of my face. It's just like, I don't know, man.
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Billy Reed
I get it. I, I, you're right. And, and, and it is kind of, you know, if, and I appreciate the call. This is two straight games where Kentucky is not only lost or, well, Kentucky is that they won at South Carolina, but this is two straight road games where we went and like, the other team's fans didn't show up, which means we're not quite the draw that we have always been, which is a little disconcerting. I mean, I was at the A and M game four years ago. Now granted, A and M was really good that year, but it was packed and it was wild and there was almost Nobody there tonight. 859-280-2287 did you get to say everything you wanted to say about the game?
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Matt Jones
Well, besides the Johnny Rocker, personal injury, attorney, moneymaker of the game, Matt. And your get small town compassion with big city results when you call The Rocker at 270-321-4429. Kind of tough to pick one tonight, but modiabate I thought showed a lot of heart, especially during Ramadan. 8 for 9 from the field, 19 points in 22 minutes. He also had 7 rebounds. He was plus 3 in the plus minus. He is our Johnny Rocker, personal injury, attorney, moneymaker of the game.
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Billy Reed
I agree. Speaking of wrestling, by the way, Shannon the dude Cash Daniel.
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Matt Jones
Friday night they're going at each other.
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Caller
Wow.
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Matt Jones
I was Shannon
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Billy Reed
Cash Daniel is like three Shannon.
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Matt Jones
Exactly. Chan's gonna have to throw something in his eyes or.
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Billy Reed
Yeah, exactly. All right, we'll take a break. They're going to overtime in van the ole Miss. So we'll see what happens. We'll take a break. Be right back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. All right, so people are giving wrestling analogies, Billy.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Let's see.
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Billy Reed
Person says for me we used to be the Rock and now we're Rocky Malavia. That's good. Although Rocky Malvia was Rocky, there was Rock before the Rock. So you need somebody who was the Rock and then kind of became Rocky Malibu. Trying to think of a. Trying to think of a wrestler that was a huge star, like the best in the business and then got to a point in their career where sometimes they would win and then sometimes they would lose to terrible people.
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Matt Jones
Trying to think Al Snow.
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Billy Reed
I like Al Snow. Obviously. I don't think he was ever the Kentucky of wrestling.
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Caller
Okay.
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Billy Reed
You know, the Kentucky wrestling is going to have to be like your Steve Austin's or your Rick Flairs or, you know, Flair got sad at the end. I don't think that's more Rick Flair is more like Indiana. Well, I mean, Rick, I don't know. Rick, Rick went a long time trying to think maybe A.J. styles, he was the champ. And then towards the end they just had him losing everybody. I don't know. It's a tough one. Okay, so we have some plays we need to talk about. First of all, Trent Noah finally gets hot. Then he turns his ankle on Mark Pope. What terrible luck. Do we know if he's okay? Did they say? I haven't.
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Matt Jones
I haven't seen an update, but, I mean, he was standing up shortly after that.
- [32:39]
Billy Reed
What bad luck, though. You finally start making shots, and then you turn your ankle on your own coach.
- [32:45]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that was bizarre.
- [32:46]
Billy Reed
That was weird. And then Brandon Garrison just threw a ball off a guy's face.
- [32:51]
Matt Jones
Harding.
- [32:52]
Billy Reed
The Brandon Garrison experience is all over the place. He had a great first few minutes.
- [32:58]
Matt Jones
He had, like, six points in a row.
- [32:59]
Billy Reed
Six points in a row. Great pass. And then, you know, he's throwing balls off people's faces. And, like, Brandon Garrison is one for the books. And then I read that we had a woman get ejected from the game and. And flip off the crowd on her way out. And I tweeted out, mom, question mark. My mom didn't find that as funny as I did.
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Matt Jones
Well, Karen wouldn't do that. She wouldn't.
- [33:25]
Billy Reed
She would not. She. She would not get kicked out or flip anyone off. But I need to know who this woman was. She might be listening. Matter of fact, I bet she is listening.
- [33:37]
Matt Jones
Good luck getting through.
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Billy Reed
If you got kicked out from this game and flip somebody off. I feel like you're the kind of person that listens to the show. I would love to hear from you either tonight or in the morning. If you were the woman that got kicked out and flipped off the crowd on the way out because they were right behind the bench. I heard. So I need to know who that was. I don't know. Who's next?
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Matt Jones
Todd is next.
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Billy Reed
Todd. Go ahead, Todd.
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Caller
Hey, Matt, Billy. The rest are thing. First thing come to mind was Sting. It's like, how many times can you come out as the crow?
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Billy Reed
Like, Sting wouldn't lose. Sting wouldn't lose, though, to these. Like, they. They didn't have Sting job at.
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Caller
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Couple points. The. You asked a question yesterday, or maybe someone called in about Ryan being a sunshine pumper and Drew, like, I don't know. And I think the majority of us are kind of. That I don't know. Because Pope is still making the same mistakes on year two sub patterns. Not calling timeouts. I mean, you're. You're up 12, and they go on a little run, and I mean, even before it gets 13. Oh, call it. When it's a 6.0run, burn a second time. Out, you know, and you know, you're right.
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Billy Reed
I mean these issues, these issues we're talking about were the exact same issues we were talking about last year. Right. I mean if you remember, the two things that used to frustrate us the most is he would go to the, he would go to the subs because last year there was a huge drop off between our top six and the next guys. Right. And he would go to those guys.
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Caller
Exactly.
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Billy Reed
And we would, we would lose. We. They'd go on a run and then you're. I think the other thing that used to bother us was the timeouts, so.
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Caller
Yeah.
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Billy Reed
And we also last year would, would lose like we'd fall down 22 teams and we didn't come back as much last year. But so. Yeah, you're right. There were, there are some similar stuff.
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Caller
The, the relevancy point. I know you said on the show the other day something about that someone said we're irrelevant, that we're not irrelevant because we're on a lot of prime time spots and you know, we still bring big ratings. But relevancy is we're not as. We're nowhere near where Yukon, Houston, for God's sakes, not even close to Duke. Like around that top 10 around like. Okay, this is. No, we're not, we're not, we're not right now. And when are we going to be there? I mean we're, we're 10, 11 losses this year. We have nobody for next year. How do we replace away. I mean that kid is unreal for us and that's a big chunk we're going to miss next year as well.
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Billy Reed
No, I think that's a very fair question. That's. I appreciate the call. Very fair question. And you're right, we aren't in that group. I kind of feel like we're sort of in the. With North Carolina group where although North Carolina didn't make a championship game. But I, that was a luck run. But, but they still got it. So I mean you can't take it away from. I like this. We're Chris Jericho. That's a good call. Jericho is my favorite wrestler, but he was, you know, the main, the, the main guy and then by the end he was just, you know, or Hulk Hogan in TNA about. See, Billy can't laugh at these because he doesn't know what all this means. Whoever wrote were Hulk Hogan and tna. That's a good call. What were you going to say?
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Matt Jones
Cena see fit that.
- [37:08]
Billy Reed
No, but see, but Cena never jobs like he, he doesn't lose to randoms. Problem is we're losing the. You know, we love. We're losing to Georgia. We're losing the. Yeah, that's. We've lost, what, three in a row to Georgia? Two in a row.
- [37:23]
Matt Jones
Georgia beat Alabama tonight.
- [37:24]
Billy Reed
They did. Yeah. And that. That game hurt us. That's what put Wednesday back on the table for us. Georgia beating Alabama hurt us, so. And with Andy wins, and it's looking like they're probably going to then, yeah, Wednesday is definitely on the table. We're going to need good results. I. I thought we were out of having to play Wednesday, but tonight went about as bad as it could have for us. Who's next?
- [37:49]
Matt Jones
Mike.
- [37:50]
Billy Reed
Mike. Go ahead, Mike.
- [37:53]
Caller
What's up, man? I tell you, I've been watching Kentucky since the 80s, and I don't think I can ever remember a 36 to 4 run in my entire life. And that just seems like we kind of got rid of Caliperi with. I think it was time and got the poor man's version of Caliper. He's just as stubborn in a different way.
- [38:21]
Billy Reed
Well, he is stubborn. You're right. He is stubborn. He's. I think that's a really good point. He's stubborn in a different way than Cal. You know, Cal was kind of stubborn in the old school. This is how I do it. And you modern kids with your rock and roll, you're not going to change me. And Pope is almost the. Sir. The computer. He's almost the Chat GPT version. Like, Chat GPT says, this is what it is. And you're like, but wait a minute. Chat GPT is saying that one of our players is a grapefruit. And you're like, that can't be right. But this is what Chat GBT says. So it's. You're right. They're stubborn in different ways.
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Caller
Let me ask you another question that I've kind of noticed this year and see if you agree with this. All of your. The best teams in the country are going away from this, I guess you would call it, Steph Curry type basketball. It seems like they're back to the offensive rebounding and the big guys and. Yeah, like, we're headed back towards where we used to be. It seems to me. And it. And I just don't. Man, I. I want it to work so bad with Pope, but, man, I'm telling you.
- [39:31]
Billy Reed
Well, I've always thought. So. We've talked about this on the air before. I always think that whatever happens in the NBA. Sir, give it Two or three years and it'll happen in college basketball. Right. And so I was listening to. I think I was talking about how I was listening this podcast earlier in the year, and they said in the NBA now you're right, it used to be get little shoot threes, et cetera, and now they still put a priority on shooting, but now it's like get shooters, but get offensive rebounders because the most efficient offense is getting it off the glass and scoring. And that's probably where we're headed with college basketball. And you're right, these teams that are good, like Michigan and Arizona does this, they get guys who can crash the glass and do that. So Florida, Florida is the best example. Yeah, Florida's like that too. Get guys who could shoot. You need two types of players. Guys that can shoot and guys that can go hit the glass. And we got a team this year that got a lot of guys that try to create one on one. And I. That just doesn't really work a lot in college basketball. So I agree with, Appreciate the call. I mean, away is the best version of that kind of player he really is, but, you know, he goes through time where he struggles to score. And you know, I love Moreno and I think he's going to be good, but he's, he's, he's soft right now that, like, he's got to get, he's got to get stronger in the off season because he just, he gets bullied. And these. Think about these guys that have given us trouble. Cyril at Georgia and the guy tonight for A and M, they just go through him. And that, that's. That. That hurt. Yellow bitch has the same, same problem. Who's next?
- [41:22]
Matt Jones
Martin.
- [41:23]
Billy Reed
Martin. Go ahead, Martin.
- [41:26]
Caller
Hey, Matt, just two quick points. My big, my. My first point has to do with Pope and his inability to keep his players engaged mentally throughout the game. And this has been consistent since last year and this year and the losses to Ohio State and Ole Miss last year and then this year getting blown out by Gonzaga. It just seems like he has an inability to keep his game, his team engaged when they go down. And so that's big for me in terms of like whether or not he can be great as a coach going forward. And the second point is sort of a big point or a big picture point with Ms. Barnhart going, I think going forward. If we're going to get an AD that is going to take this seriously and an athlete, athletic department for that matter, we need an athletic department that has its finger on the pulse of the fan Base because they seem out of touch with the rebranding, with what's going on in the home court advantage. The rebranding, that Wildcat they came out with, I can't remember what it was. I think it was a few years ago, but no one buys that merchandise. And so they really need to sort of be, you know, take a look at themselves on how to get in touch with the fan base. I agree totally with the list of this show.
- [42:44]
Billy Reed
I totally agree with you about the. I think you will hear me talk a lot more about this as we go through the spring because according to to Eli Caploon UK today, they're not hiring someone soon, like quickly. So I agree with you. I think they. I, I think. I think the athletics department has been, has been disconnected from the fans since COVID and it's got to get better. I think it has gotten a little better on the football side, but there's still a ways to go. And I think on the basketball side, Mark's done some really good, good things in that regard. But there's still way that the athletic department has no, they have no idea what the average fan is like. They really don't.
- [43:36]
Caller
If I may, I would say they just need to stop catering to the older generation. I don't want to. I'm 31 years old and I got four brothers and they're the biggest UK fans you can meet. I've died for any of them. We talk about every UK game while we're watching it and we say the same things. You feel like you're shouting at the moon and unfortunately you and KSR kind of face the brunt of fans frustrations and you feel like you're hound at the moon and you see these things and you're, you're feeling it in your gut. Something's missing. And like I said, I mean.
- [44:08]
Billy Reed
Well, no, they don't realize. They don't realize it. I mean, here's the. And this is a much bigger conversation than tonight. But here's the problem. This is what happened when Cal was here and it's what happens now. KSR reflects the fans. Okay? We. When you hear us, you're hearing people like you. You're here. We reflect the fans. But to UK's administration, they think we move the fans, right? So they're, they think, they think the reason fans are upset about in game experiences because KSR tells them to be. They don't understand that every single day, me, Ryan, Drew, Billy, Shannon, Mario, we are hearing from fans who are saying this and we are reflecting what they're saying. UK because they are so disconnected from the average fans, just blames us. And that's what Cal did. And to some extent in the latter years, that's what Mitch has done. And I'm with you. I hope the next group. And I appreciate the call. I don't think that's what Will Stein has done. I don't even really think that's what Mark Pope has done. I hope the new leadership of UK Athletics realizes there is a lot. There's a missing piece to the connection with the fans and they've got to find it. And one of the things that would help is winning basketball games. 859-280-2287. Ole Miss has a free throw to tie here, Billy. After it looked like they might be done and they miss it. So.
- [45:48]
Matt Jones
Come on, old man.
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Billy Reed
Oh, goodness. All right, we'll take a break. We'll be right back. It's a local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. You know, Billy, I'm a little bit of a nerd when it comes to political stuff. At least elections. I don't like how politics is done in America now, but I do like elections. And I just saw something I didn't know. Do you remember former baseball player Mark Teixeira?
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Matt Jones
Yes.
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Caller
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
First baseball.
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Billy Reed
He won the Republican primary for Congress in a district in Texas. Texas. And it looks like a district that's pretty strong Republican. So he will probably now be a congressman. Mark Teixeira. Here's what I thought when I saw this. You know, they have that Democrat Republican baseball game every.
- [46:34]
Matt Jones
That's right. Yeah.
- [46:36]
Billy Reed
Should the Democrats just forfeit from now on? They've got a Yankee.
- [46:42]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's.
- [46:43]
Billy Reed
That doesn't seem fair.
- [46:44]
Matt Jones
Yeah. He's going to be taking those.
- [46:45]
Billy Reed
They can't allow him to play, can they?
- [46:47]
Matt Jones
I think. Well, that would be cruel to make him.
- [46:50]
Billy Reed
But I mean, if LeBron James were to run for Congress, you can't let him play in the congressional basketball game.
- [46:56]
Matt Jones
If he were a member of Congress, it would be.
- [46:58]
Billy Reed
So you think he should get the
- [47:00]
Matt Jones
play if he was a member of Congress?
- [47:01]
Billy Reed
Well, the game's over.
- [47:03]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [47:03]
Billy Reed
You put Aaron Judge in the middle of. Well, you just.
- [47:06]
Matt Jones
You give him the Barry Bonds treatment. You just walk them.
- [47:09]
Billy Reed
You walk him every time.
- [47:11]
Matt Jones
Yeah. You can walk or you can pitch.
- [47:12]
Billy Reed
Now, I will say, I think it would be really funny if he struck out.
- [47:16]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah.
- [47:17]
Billy Reed
Like, would that mean. That would be really embarrassing. That'd be really embarrassing if, like, AOC strikes.
- [47:23]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah. Be a Democrat and you'd be like, bernie, Bernie.
- [47:28]
Billy Reed
I bet Bernie's got quite the curveball. I'm sorry. Look, we gotta laugh at something. We got beat tonight, and it wasn't good. All right, who's up next?
- [47:39]
Matt Jones
Jacob is next.
- [47:40]
Billy Reed
Jacob. Go ahead, Jacob.
- [47:43]
Caller
Hey, Matt. Thanks for taking my call.
- [47:45]
Billy Reed
Of course.
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Caller
So, going back to the Cal era, towards the end, when you talked about the fans having this apathy towards Cal, obviously we're not there yet with Pope, but it feels like we're getting there pretty soon. What are. What are your thoughts on that and
- [48:03]
Matt Jones
how do you think.
- [48:03]
Billy Reed
I mean, it's all gonna be about next year. Like, it's gonna be next year. I mean, for better or worse, Mark Pope's success at Kentucky will come down to how next year goes. That's just going to be. Mark Story wrote that about a week ago, and he's exactly right. This year, I think. No matter. I mean, he did enough in terms of getting this team to play better and get to the tournament. He'll have the job next year. And Mitch is now going to be gone, which also adds a different legacy to this conversation. But nevertheless, in terms of the fan base, it'll all be based on next year. I think things need to go well next year, and, you know, there are reasons to be nervous about it, but I think fans will go into next season excited. But if we have a year where a lot of the same issues showcase, then you will start to hear major, major grumblings.
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Caller
Thanks, Matt.
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Billy Reed
Appreciate the call. Let's do. Let's do five more, and we'll call it a night.
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Matt Jones
Rusty.
- [49:11]
Billy Reed
Rusty, how are you? Rusty?
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Caller
Hey, Matt. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like tonight's game was a replay of the Oakland game. They went on a 273 run at the end of the first half and said, we'll adjust it. We'll see what they're doing in the first half, and we will make adjustments. But when they came out of second half, they did the same thing.
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Billy Reed
Yeah, yeah.
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Caller
There was no adjustment.
- [49:44]
Billy Reed
You're right. You're exactly right.
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Caller
And.
- [49:47]
Billy Reed
And then we also. Here's the problem. When you let a team go on those runs, then if they have moments where they get hot, you're just kind of. You're just kind of screwed. And that's what happened in the second half. In the second half, we actually played okay, but then they hit a couple big threes and. And we weren't able to cut we all, we couldn't get it closer than 9, 10, 11 because of the gap we gave them in the first half.
- [50:14]
Caller
You're right. But, you know, yellow bits come down and he hit a three right off the bat. I'm like, okay. But then his man that he was garden hit two times down the court. They hit two threes in his face. And it's like, you know, it's great you scored three, but you can't give up six.
- [50:32]
Billy Reed
Yeah. And we were. And Jimmy Dykes frustrates people, but he does good analysis and he was noting our guys were like, we continue to play off of these three point shooters and I don't understand why, you know, make them beat you at the glass and if they do, shake their hand. But we got a lot of tall dudes, make them beat us at the rim and we give them these open looks and you got to do the Spanish guy who, who scored, who hit, like, who said six threes? And we didn't even have our hand in his face. Five of them. So.
- [51:05]
Caller
Yes. And let me say this about Jimmy Dykes. He did say something that was hilarious earlier. They mentioned the fact that Noah didn't score a point in February. And Jimmy Dyke goes, well, there's only 28 days.
- [51:21]
Billy Reed
Yeah, I appreciate. I appreciate the call. Yeah. February's over, Billy. So now it's. Now it's time.
- [51:26]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Trent Noah didn't hit a single shot in the month of February. So glad he finally saw in.
- [51:31]
Billy Reed
To be fair, neither did I.
- [51:34]
Matt Jones
You're not playing.
- [51:36]
Billy Reed
I mean, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. I didn't make one either. Neither did you, for that matter.
- [51:43]
Matt Jones
Well, that's a false equivalency here. I'm not playing for Kentucky. Not making millions in nil.
- [51:49]
Billy Reed
Whatever. Who's next? Kurt. Kurt. Go ahead, Kurt.
- [51:57]
Caller
Hey, Matt. Appreciate you taking my call. I got a quick comment and a question. So the. I think that first of all, the positive note, I think that loss like this to Texas A M and the way is going to be a catalyst for us to go and beat Florida by a bunch at home. So I think that's a problem.
- [52:19]
Billy Reed
I think it's going to be some motivation. Yes.
- [52:22]
Caller
No, I think, I think eight points, man. And then on the other side, I do have a question for you. When I heard you talk today about Jaden Quaint possibly entering the lineup again, I wasn't so concerned about Jaden Quinton being a good player for the team or a participant like everybody was talking about. I was Concerned about the substitution pattern that's going to come as a result of that. Just because of kind of what we've seen with Trent Noah and some of the other players.
- [52:47]
Billy Reed
I think what would end up happening is just one of the bigs that's playing right now just probably wouldn't get to play. First of all, I don't even know that he's going to play. If he does play, I don't know that he'll play much. If he got to the point, though, that they felt like he could play 15, 20 minutes, probably what happens is either is probably Garrison just doesn't play. That's probably what I. If you were going to make me guess, that's probably what would happen.
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Caller
That's fair. I mean, if that's. If that's the case, then I guess I would be a little less worried. It just. It concerns me a little bit with just the substitution pattern that maybe he would play over Moreno or something like that.
- [53:20]
Billy Reed
Yeah, I appreciate the call. By the way, here's another little thing. You know, Billy, I like little tidbits of information. Do you remember the Shamwow?
- [53:28]
Matt Jones
Yes.
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Billy Reed
Okay.
- [53:30]
Matt Jones
Yes.
- [53:30]
Billy Reed
So in another Republican primary, the guy who did the Shamwow. All right.
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Caller
Yeah.
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Billy Reed
His name is Offer Shlomi. That's the guy who did the Shamwow. And he wanted to run, you know, if I say Offer Shlomi, you don't know who that is, right? Correct. So he wanted to be on the ballot as Sham. Wow. Slowly.
- [53:58]
Matt Jones
Good idea. Honestly.
- [54:00]
Billy Reed
Well, think about it. If you. If you're like Ryan Lemon, you don't know anything and you see Shamwow Shlomi on the ballot, you'd be like, oh, I remember the Shamwow.
- [54:11]
Matt Jones
Some be some good yard signs.
- [54:12]
Billy Reed
Well, the board of elections did not let Shamwow be Shamwow. That's a shame, because his net. His name is not Shamwow. And so he. Without having his name Shamwell on there, he came in sixth.
- [54:27]
Matt Jones
Well, it sounds like he only got it.
- [54:29]
Billy Reed
He only got a thousand votes.
- [54:30]
Matt Jones
He could have changed his name to Shamwow. Maybe the middle name Sham.
- [54:34]
Billy Reed
Wow.
- [54:35]
Matt Jones
It sounds like he just stopped short.
- [54:36]
Billy Reed
Be able. If he had legally changed it, then you think it would be okay to do it?
- [54:41]
Matt Jones
Yes.
- [54:42]
Billy Reed
So if I was wanting to run for office, you know, there's a movie called Distinguished Gentlemen where there's a guy named, I think, Thomas Jefferson, and the congressman named Thomas Jefferson dies, and he changes his name Eddie Murphy to Thomas Jefferson. So people think they're voting for the dead guy, and his campaign slogan is vote the name. You know, and he wins, and then he goes to Congress. It's a great movie if you've never seen it.
- [55:11]
Matt Jones
I like the idea. Maybe an asterisk next to him if
- [55:14]
Billy Reed
he's trying to think. You could just. You could run for office and just act like. Change your name.
- [55:19]
Matt Jones
If you get it legally changed. Yeah. It should be on the ballot.
- [55:22]
Billy Reed
You should run. You should have run as Mitch McConnell for who's Next.
- [55:27]
Matt Jones
Run it back. Glenna.
- [55:29]
Billy Reed
Glenna. Go ahead, Glenna.
- [55:32]
Caller
Hey, good evening. I have a name for our team, but it's not wrestling name.
- [55:40]
Billy Reed
Okay.
- [55:40]
Caller
It's like, we've been Garth Brooks, and now we're going to Chris Gaines.
- [55:45]
Billy Reed
Oh, no. I mean, I can't argue with you. That's not a bad one. Garth. We've been Garth Brooks, and now we're Chris Gaines.
- [55:55]
Caller
Well, we're not Chris Gaines yet, but we're, like, in the transformation, too, if we don't.
- [56:03]
Billy Reed
I don't think I can. I don't think I can top that one. That's a pretty good one.
- [56:08]
Caller
Oh, thank you.
- [56:10]
Billy Reed
Appreciate it. That's depressing. Do you remember. Are you old enough to remember when Garth Brooks became Chris Gaines?
- [56:17]
Matt Jones
I'm not. I've heard the story, but I don't remember.
- [56:20]
Billy Reed
Decided he was another person and what? And he hosted Saturday Night Live, and he was the host, and Chris Gaines was the musical guest.
- [56:29]
Matt Jones
See, that's. That's too much. That's. Alter egos are worse than you need to look.
- [56:34]
Billy Reed
This is something that'll entertain you before to go to bed. When Garth Brooks hosted and Chris Gaines musical guest Tracy Morgan comes up to. They have a skit where he comes up to Garth Brooks in the hall and tells him he needs to watch out for Chris Gaines. Like, acting like he doesn't know they're the same person. You should look that one.
- [56:53]
Matt Jones
I will.
- [56:53]
Billy Reed
It's a good skit. Two more. Who's next?
- [56:55]
Matt Jones
Will.
- [56:56]
Billy Reed
Will. Go ahead, Will.
- [56:59]
Caller
Hey, man, I got a couple things to say real quick. And I'll be real quick. Pope just must think he's got a platoon system, because every time he. He brings these guys in, we. We just are lost, and then we lose. And then I was saying the game's over. And one more thing. They talked to him after the game, and he said that we were fatigued after 12 minutes. Our guys are fatigued. We need to talk to the athletic trainer. And I'll. I'll let you comment.
- [57:27]
Billy Reed
Yeah, I mean, we. I feel like we said this a lot. I, I feel like they don't get as tired as. But the thing is, if they're not tired and we're down 15, I'm not sure how that helps us either. I, I think they mess. I think the. I, they lost the game, in my opinion, when they, when they made that mess up. But to be fair, when they put the starters back in, they weren't good either. So, you know, is what it is. One more and we'll call it a night and then get ready for tomorrow. What's next, David? David. Go ahead, David.
- [57:58]
Caller
Hey, Matt. I know you like to finish on a positive, so you might want to get another call.
- [58:03]
Billy Reed
That's okay. We lost. We don't have to finish on a positive. We lost.
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Caller
Okay, I know you'd like to. Ready? Okay, here we go. Is this any better than the last two years of Cal
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Billy Reed
this year particularly, or the two years that Pope has
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Caller
been the, the, these two years with Pope.
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Billy Reed
Well, let's see the next to last year with Cal. We got to the second round, lost to Kansas State. Honestly, that was a very similar year to last year in the sense that although last year was probably a little better than that year, then the next year, Kentucky was pretty good that year, but then lost to Oakland. So let's see what we do in the tournament. I mean, we would see one. We went one round farther in Pope's first year than we did Cal two years ago. Let's see what we do in the tournament. But I mean, even if it's a little better, I think your point is it's not exponentially different one way or the other.
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Caller
And I think last year would have been. We'd have felt better if it had been for Cal in Arkansas going to Sweet sixteen also and seeing what they're doing. What would have been our players if he'd have stayed here?
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Billy Reed
Yeah, I understand that. Although I think, I think if Cal had had those players here, we might have been awful because they were. People forget they weren't. They barely made the tournament last year. You know, we're going to play Wednesday. We're going to play Wednesday at 1:00 o', clock maybe in the SEC tournament. I'm going to remind you, last year the Wednesday at 1 o' clock game was Arkansas, and at one point they were down in the second half. And if they had lost that game, they might not have even made the NCAA tournament. Now, of course, they ended up in the sweet 16, but their fortunes changed and you know, there's still time in theory that could happen with us too.
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Caller
True, true.
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Billy Reed
So I appreciate the call. I mean Cal, look, Arkansas last year beat Kansas and then they beat Rick Patino. Those are two great wins. But they almost didn't make the tournament. You remember, I think Billy, they started SEC last year like one in six. Yeah, and then they turn their season around playing us. Yeah, that's when they turn their season around. Well, disappointing loss and we play Saturday and who knows, maybe we win. Because with this team, you just never know. Tomorrow will be a busy day. On the show we're going to have to talk about Mitch's retirement, the news that came out about his new role with the university, and then this SEC tournament scenarios will be at the bar lot going on tomorrow. So we will see you then. Cats lose unfortunately. 9685. This has been the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. With Cargurus Discover, you can skip the filters and describe what you're looking for in your own words. Simply type what you want and and Cargurus Discover instantly surfaces real listings that match your exact needs. It's no wonder Cargurus is the number one most visited car shopping site according to SimilarWeb's estimated traffic data. Buy or sell your next car today with CarGurus@CarGurus.com Go to CarGurus.com to make sure your big deal is the best deal. That's C-A-R-U-R u s.com cargurus.com when segregation was a law, one mysterious black club
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Caller
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