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Ryan Lemmon
Well, that stunk. I mean, there's no way to sugarcoat that. That was, that was a tough one. That was a tough, tough loss at your on your home court Rupp Arena. The crowd brought, it was rocking. Introduced your new head coach, head football coach. And you stunk it up. I mean, it was bad. It was a bad loss. It was a bad performance. No other way to say it. This Ryan Lemon entered the local toilet. KSR postgame show. For those that missed it. Earlier we mentioned that Matt is out. His, his dad had a couple procedures today that he wanted to be there for his dad and with his mom. So he took the night off. And once again, we got an ugly, awful postgame show to do. I mean, they couldn't score in the second half where they went almost 10 minutes without a field goal. Oh, for 13 from the field at one stretch. Finished the game 2 of 16 from the field. Billy, you and me and Dave Baker could get two guys off the street and we could score one bucket within 10 minutes.
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, and a team that's supposed to shoot 35 threes a game only made one tonight.
Ryan Lemmon
And who had on their bingo card the one three pointer was hit all night was Brandon Garrison. I tape anybody predicted that one. They need to go put all their money in the, on the, in the lottery. So look, we heard all summer how this was a great shooting team, how they couldn't miss, how Trent, Noah, Cam Williams were just hitting 100 in a row, shooting 80% in practice from three. Where is it, man? It's not, it's not around right now. That stretch where they went 10 minutes without scoring a field goal was brutal, absolutely brutal. And here's, here's, this is just my opinion. You know, my dad was a coach, so I've watched a lot of basketball and I've heard him say a million times, you're playing like you're behind, play like you're ahead. We had the lead, yet we were playing like we were behind, coming down, jacking up shots early in the shot clock, jacking up shots out of the offense. I mean, we could call some guys out, but it's obviously not who it is. And then if you watch the game, you saw when they had a six point lead, we made one pass and shot a three pointer. Next trip down, we drove baseline through the same guy. His last name rhymes with Babar Bean. So I don't know, man, it's frustrating. I mean, we can try to be funny about it, but nobody's happy, nobody's in a good mood. My Twitter feed is just blown up with people upset with the coaches, with the players. You know, when you, when you can't, you're not shooting the ball well and then you can't make a stop in crunch time on defense. You're not going to beat anybody and, or it's going to be hard to beat people. And I think that's just what happened. So now their first three big non conference games, you lost all three of them. Louisville whooped you, Michigan State whooped you, and North Carolina beat you on your home court. So out of the six non conference games where we all pointed to when most of us all said they gotta be at least four and two, maybe even five and one, you're owing three. And oh yeah, you got Gonzaga coming up on Friday, maybe one of the top two teams in the country. I know they got beaten in that tournament out there, but they're still super, super good. So I don't know. And here's the frustrating thing is I don't see any answers. You can't go to the waiver wire. You got some of your stars sitting out there hurt still. I don't know what the heck's going on with Diabate. So there's. How do you fix it that second half? Brandon Garrison and Cam Williams hardly played it all in the second half. They may not even played a minute in the second half. They may have been out there just briefly, but Pope just went with Aberdeen, Otega, Chandler, Yellowich and Marino. And he ran with those five guys. I think Noah got a little run out there and I don't, I don't know what's wrong with Trent, man. He's. He's supposed to be your shooter. I don't know if he's lost his law he got, when he got hurt, if he lost his confidence and he's trying to find it again. I don't know. Lot. Just a heck of a lot more questions than answers right now after what we Just watched. So Billy, what were your, your thoughts on running the board, listening to that mess?
Billy (Co-host)
Oh, it's our, it's our late one, right? So these, these late games, we're always in for a long haul. We get a little slap happy at the end. It's the first loss under Pope where the opponent scored less than 70 points. So it's a little bit of an odd game than what, what we've mostly seen. But you said, how is this what's going to change? I mean, doesn't getting back a Jalen Lowe Jaden Quatin Cinema Diabate changed this team or was this still a game that Kentucky should have won?
Ryan Lemmon
I, I think they definitely should have won the game. Without a doubt. You had a six point lead. You got to protect instead of come down and jack up shots out of the offense early in the shot clock. You got to be smarter than that. Like we made some not very smart decisions, but you made a good point. The question is, how do you fix it? You got to get low and quite in back. I don't know about what's going on him, but if you get those three guys back, I think you're a different team. You really are a different team. So maybe that is the answer. So I want to read this tweet came from Cody Couch. All right. He tweets a lot of pretty good stuff. In their last eight ranked matchups. So when they're playing a ranked team, Kentucky is one in seven this year. Louisville, Michigan State, North Carolina. Lost, lost, lost. They were one in five last year, one in four last year. Oh, and three this year, one in seven. Their last eight ranked matchups. Got to win the big games, man. I mean there early in the season last year we beat Duke, Gonzaga, you know, got some of those non conference wins. Then we got to the sec, Tennessee, Bama, Missouri, Auburn, they beat us all. So I don't know, it's not going to be a pretty couple of days. You know, we had all this great celebration. I mean, Will Stein was there, Billy. They introduced Will Stein. He set courtside with his wife watching his first game as Kentucky head football coach Tayshawn Prince was there. Billy, they did two wise. It was such an exciting night. They did a Y in the first half with Will Stein, they did a Y in the second half with Tayshawn Prince. And you still stunk it up. That second half was awful. I mean that was some awful basketball in that second half.
Billy (Co-host)
Well, Kentucky couldn't grab a rebound. I mean the offensive rebounds, UNC had.
Ryan Lemmon
20, 20 offensive rebounds and they got like what, 22 second chance points, something like that.
Billy (Co-host)
And Kentucky had eight offensive rebounds, five second chance points, eight assists to nine turnovers.
Ryan Lemmon
That's huge. We thought this team when they played Purdue they were passing the ball so well. The assist to turn all ratio was great. That's awful. Eight assists, nine turnovers. Again that may go back to. We need Jalen Lowe, we need that point guard. Aberdeen is a better guard off the ball. What was he tonight?
Frank Franklin
Who?
Billy (Co-host)
Denzel.
Ryan Lemmon
He was 4 of 13. It felt like he was 4 of 20. He's take some bad shots. Jasper probably needs some more minutes. You know Jasper I think took a couple shots maybe he shouldn't have but he's so good he can get in the lane. Once he gets in the lane then he's got to either shoot it or lob it up to somebody.
Billy (Co-host)
And yeah, I don't know about Jasper but yellow is somebody that should be seeing a lot more minutes. I thought, you know, he needed to be rebound better but he played some pretty good ball tonight.
Ryan Lemmon
Ryan. He was the player of the game and sitting down with Jack Givens and deservedly so because not only did he do what he needed to do offensively, he was the guy on Caleb Williams most of the game, especially in the second half. Caleb Williams was quiet. What do you end up with like 13 points. He had nine most of the game he didn't even get double figures and that a lot of that is due to yellow bitches defense.
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah. Caleb Wilson had 15 points, 12 rebounds. 5 of 19 from the field is plus 4 and 35 minutes. I mean for the most part you did what you needed to do against him. But that's the tallest team in the country according to Ken Palm and you could tell by the rebounding numbers tonight.
Ryan Lemmon
So we want to hear from you if you're still up, you're driving home. I saw the traffic back up on Newtown pike that was coming in. I'm in studio with Billy. We want to hear from you. 8592-8022-8785-9280. Cats. Yuck. Awful. This is what I said after the Louisville football loss on Saturday. We've had a rough couple days going with the Vanderbilt football loss, the Louisville football loss, now this North Carolina loss. Pitiful. Pitiful. Pitiful. We'll be right back. This is the local Total Leaders KSR Post Game Show. All right, welcome back. The local total leaders KSR post game show. Apparently the 6:30am feed is maybe on the alien show right now.
Billy (Co-host)
Billy, it's late. You know, the alien show needs to be played.
Ryan Lemmon
So it's late. The gremlins in there in the control room are running on the spinny wheel as fast as they can.
Billy (Co-host)
We're working on it though.
Ryan Lemmon
We're working on it. So the 6:30 feed was having some issues, but the 84Whas feed apparently is fine. Is that right?
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, I believe so.
Ryan Lemmon
So are we on like the regular signal on 6:30 or is it just a streaming fee?
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, that I don't know about 6:30. But you know, I, I understand the transmitter is as frustrated as we are tonight, Ryan.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, the transmitter must be a Kentucky basketball fan. And then we watched that game and decided to check out like. And here, one more thing I wanted to get for. Go to the phone line. Yeah, we got a good shot at the end of the game. Chandler beat his man, went baseline, he had, he, you know, he got to the rim, just couldn't get it to fall. He, you know that left handed, but he hit one left handed coming underneath, just right. A couple minutes, a couple seconds before that. So I felt, you know, I'm not upset with the last shot we got. It was there and he just couldn't get it to drop. And I thought we saw some signs of the old Otega. O way the old Ortega. I saw glimpses of him tonight, you know, where as soon as he gets the ball, boom, straight to the basket, went hard. Now he missed a couple that he should have, I should have hit, but I think old Otega is coming back.
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, Goose was talking about that and how he wasn't getting the ball enough.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
In that 10 minute stretch where Kentucky really didn't score. So maybe look for him to continue to do that moving forward.
Ryan Lemmon
And that's where I'm telling you, man, you, they were playing like they were behind. You had the lead, you had a six point lead. You're at home. Play smart basketball. All right, I've ran it enough. Who's our first caller? Billy?
Billy (Co-host)
Mark is up first.
Ryan Lemmon
Mark. Go ahead, Mark.
Caller
Yeah, we keep talking about missing three of our starters, but you know, I think one of those guys wasn't with us last year. Hasn't started a game this year. Carolina's out there, point guard. You know, there's no crime, there's wins and losses and we're just looking bad guys.
Ryan Lemmon
Thank you, Mark, Appreciate it. Yeah, their little point guard, that was his name, Derek Price, hit the last shot there at the end of the game. Derek Dixon, he, I mean, he just does his job. You know, he's a point guard. Pass first, point guard. But he hit the big three. Then he hit the drive to basically win the game for him. Tough, tough competitor. Man, he was good. Our point guards are taking bad shots, Russian shots. We need Jalen Lowe back desperately. Can he play on Friday?
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, this Friday might be ugly.
Ryan Lemmon
Gonzaga scares me to death. I mean, when we did our preseason predictions, I thought they would beat Michigan State. Obviously. Michigan State now is one of the best teams in the country. Beat Louisville and beat Indiana and beat North Carolina. I had a 4 and 2 losing to Gonzaga and then St. John's well, I've already lost the first three of these games.
Billy (Co-host)
Please, Jalen Lowe, at least you got IU coming up.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, we go 10 minutes without scoring, it's going to be tough to beat anybody.
Billy (Co-host)
That's true.
Ryan Lemmon
Who's next? Robert. Robert. Go ahead, Robert.
Caller
Hey, thank you guys for taking my call. I know this is a tough, you know, time to do this, but I just wanted to say I think Mark Pope just doesn't have it. He, like we've had like how many games now and he just does not have the game knowledge to lead it like Kentucky to, to be the. Like to win. So after this, like, I, like, where do we go? Like, it was such a tough loss and you know, I. I just don't know what we do. It was so bad and I don't know.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah, Robert, we appreciate it. Corey Price just sent me this stat. Kentucky now has a losing record versus Power Four teams under Mark Pope at 14 and 15, excluding the exhibitions.
Billy (Co-host)
Wow, that's surprising. I mean, they started so hot, right?
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
And then they. Didn't they break a record for like wins versus most? The ranked team opponents last year did, but then it kind of fell apart late and then this year it's just been a collapse.
Ryan Lemmon
The SEC last year was so strong. You heard Jay Williams, by the way. Was Jay Williams and Dick Vital on the broadcast tonight?
Billy (Co-host)
They were.
Ryan Lemmon
Did they happen to mention when Jay used to play at Duke against Kentucky, did they mention any of those?
Billy (Co-host)
I only hear the radio broadcast.
Ryan Lemmon
Hu.
Billy (Co-host)
So you tell me.
Ryan Lemmon
I'm. I'm with you. I was listening to radio, so I wonder if Dick B. And J. Wim talked to any about the old Duke Kentucky games during the broadcast. I just wondering who's next caller.
Billy (Co-host)
Sounds like they did. Big Don.
Ryan Lemmon
Big Don. Go ahead, Big Don.
Caller
Hey, Ryan. I'm just. I'm on my way home from the game and ever since the game ended, I just can't get my mind straight. I've cried. I've cried. I've spent my hard earned money. 300 on tickets. We went. Hey. Before the game, went to Jeff Ruby's 200 and I went there and I watched that crack show. I watched it and I just thought, why am I here? Why am I here? 10 o' clock at night, driving home on I 64 right now, 1:30 in the morning, and we're losing the UNC at home. This is Kentucky basketball. We don't do that. And I'm just. I don't know. I don't know where you go from here. Pope just. I don't think he's the answer. And I don't see how it gets fixed. It's. I think it's over. I'm sorry. I'll hang up.
Ryan Lemmon
Big Don, great call. I mean, that you. The feeling. We could feel it in your voice. And you probably represent most of the fan base tonight after this game. And here you are, you're driving home on i64. Dark parts of the state where there's no lights. Oh, well, go ahead. If you got more to say, Don, you go right ahead.
Caller
Yeah, yeah. Give me a minute. I'm just. I don't know. It's been for the last, what, six years? Bull crap. Bull crap. Ever since COVID we haven't got anything good out of this program. We. It's went to hell. One sweet 16. I can't do it no more. Like, what's the point in watching that team? Please, just give me answers, Big Don.
Ryan Lemmon
Appreciate it. I wish we did know answers. I think our answers are sitting over there on the bench and low and Jaden Quatin's. I think those guys have got to get healthy for this team to turn it around. Cause right now I just. They're just. There's issues with this squad we got right now. Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
I don't want to jump the gun. I mean, I get the emotion.
Ryan Lemmon
You're.
Billy (Co-host)
But you're without your starting point guard, your utility guy. That was a prize catch in the transfer portal. And Jane Qutons, who's a top five pick. So could it change? Could it turn around? Yes, but there is some question marks. I mean, you should have won that game even without all those three guys. Mark Pope's roster construction needs to be questioned. There's not enough shooters on this team.
Ryan Lemmon
And we thought this summer, the way everybody talked about how good shooters they were, were going to be okay. We'll be okay with Trent and Cam Williams and yellow Aberdeen shooting well. Otega's get found. He shot, so I don't know. I loved Big Don's call because I think that a lot of fans going home tonight feel the exact same way he does so.
Billy (Co-host)
And you had all those point guard injuries last year and now you're going through the same problems because your primary point guard got hurt. Where's the depth? Maybe we now know why he was so mad that Travis Perry left. That was your third string point guard.
Ryan Lemmon
They could have used him. But they get it then. You know, Jasper paid like what, five minutes?
Billy (Co-host)
I mean, he's not ready for this. He can play the crappy teams, but right now he is not physically ready to play against these teams right now.
Ryan Lemmon
Who's our next caller?
Billy (Co-host)
Man, I'm starting to feel a little anger from the last call.
Ryan Lemmon
Big Don got you fired?
Billy (Co-host)
I think so.
Ryan Lemmon
Fired up.
Billy (Co-host)
Luke is next.
Ryan Lemmon
Luke. Go ahead, Luke.
Caller
Hey, Ron. I first just want to say thank you all for being on because y' all bring a lot of positive energy, especially after a loss that bad. I was there tonight and I'm on my way back to Owensboro actually right now. And during warm ups, Otega away out of the 15, three pointers I've seen him shoot, he made 11 or 12 of them. I mean, it was like he was barely missing. And then it's like once the game started, I mean the, the proof is in the, in the box score. Brandon Garrison was our only. Only player to. To hit a three. And it's just, it's starting to make me wonder the way they've been playing recently, if Jaden Quaintance and Jalen Lowe and Mo Diabate are. Are truly enough. And I guess I'll let y' all get off here and see what y' all think.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, be careful going back to Owensboro. That's a long route going on in the middle of the night here, so.
Caller
But yeah, yes, sir.
Ryan Lemmon
They're. Oh of in the first half. They were O of three from three point range. Oh, of three. I'm sorry. Oh, of eight from three point range in the first half. Oh, of eight second half, one of five. And your one is. Brandon Garrison took a couple ill advised three pointers at that. Like I said when we had the lead early in the shot clock, I don't. I think they're better shooters than that, but they got to be smarter than that when they take their shot for sure. And if Otega. I don't know. I'm not going to complain about Ortega because, man, we saw signs of the old Ortega tonight going to the basket. Did he even should even try a three pointer tonight?
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, he was over 10 for 1 after the game. I didn't hear a ton of Pope after the game. I did hear one quote he said on radio in which he said, these guys have got to learn the concept of learning to make plays for each other.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah. Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
Are they just out there trying to get their own. Trying to play meatball at times?
Ryan Lemmon
I think a couple guys were. That's what I'm saying. And they just were playing like they were behind and took some bad shots. We'll take another one for a good break.
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, let's take one more. Super Stein.
Ryan Lemmon
Super Stein. Is this. Is this the new coach, William. William Stein?
Caller
Hey, what's up, fellas? I am glad to be on and thank you all for having me. Unfortunately, I don't know that I can save us from this one, but I am here, so that's good. I wanted to just say, if y' all don't mind, I have a couple questions and then comments, then I'm gonna have a happy ending, if that's okay.
Billy (Co-host)
Yeah, go ahead.
Caller
I'm gonna say, I was just. I think the biggest thing with me about this team is. Is forget, like, you know, that we. What if we get our guys back, if we're 100, healthy, just. That's great. Forget if. What happens the end of the rest of the season. What I don't understand is, you know, average me. So take Nick Thompson, average guy, 6 foot, 190 pounds, on it on a good day, and, you know, no real basketball athleticism. But I kid that I love Kentucky. So I'm searching the Internet and I'm watching UK practice from the moment I can see it on YouTube. Just the first minutes that I could see them practice, I watch. And here's the problem. I am who I just explained, but I could see in the first minute of watching this team, like, oh, man, they. They really. They can't shoot very well. And then I'd watch a couple more minutes, and then I'm like, oh, they. They're really bad at shooting. And then, you know, you watch for a whole five minutes, and you're like, okay, this team cannot shoot at all. And my question is, all right, how. How did Mark Pope sign off on all of these players, knowing that we brought him here for offense and for shooting, and how could he, the orchestrator of all of that, you know, kind of miss that? And that's. That's the question I feel like has to be Asked to him and you know, I'll respect whatever he answers. And the other comment I want to make is, is Olay. You're right. He kind of looked like he was throwing flashes tonight. But man, have y' all not noticed, like from the beginning of the season, it's like somebody took his cape. It's like, it's like Superman's out there, but he's like, has no girl. His girlfriend was taken from him and he. I wear is his. Like, where is his moxie? Where. Where is the guy from last year, you know?
Ryan Lemmon
Well, that's what we're saying.
Caller
Yeah, I'm running out of time. Positive, positive, positive hate. We're volleyball school. Let's go. Eva Hudson. Let's go. Brooklyn delay. Let's go. UK volleyball. That's what we do. Shout out Kennedy Thompson. Safe trip to Kentucky Owensboro. Thank you.
Ryan Lemmon
All right. Appreciate it. Super Stein. Yeah. Volleyball coming up on Thursday. That made me snap us out of this funk. After the Vanderbilt, Louisville, now North Carolina trifecta we just went through. So. But the guy, you know, he brings up some good points. I think Pope made the roster. Basically he looked at what, what was weak last year. Correct. Toughness, defense, rebounding. So he went out and tried to find some guys he thought he could count on defensively, and they're a much better defensive team. I mean, they held North Carolina to 67 points. Most of the time you're going to win this game. But like he said, where's your shooters? Well, he missed out on some. He tried to get some and he just didn't get any of them that he was trying to get. They thought maybe Cam Williams and Trent were going to be the answer yellow. They were all going to be the answer. But shooting 1 of 13 from 3, we hard to beat a lot of teams in the sec.
Billy (Co-host)
I mean, we've been screaming for him to shorten the rotation and play guys over 25, 30 minutes. And then tonight you've got four guys over 30 minutes.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah, that second half he left those five guys. This ran with those guys.
Billy (Co-host)
I mean, they went 10 minutes and didn't score a basket.
Ryan Lemmon
I don't know.
Billy (Co-host)
I don't have change the lineup then.
Frank Franklin
Mark.
Ryan Lemmon
Frank Rutledge has joined us in the studio and Frank Franklin is also here as well. So are you going to join us next segment?
Caller
Sure.
Billy (Co-host)
No, Mike's not on now.
Ryan Lemmon
It Is Frank Franklin going to join us next?
Frank Franklin
I don't know. I have a lot to do for the websites, but I can blog and talk. I'm Multitasking. We at least work all day anyway.
Ryan Lemmon
What's more, we at least after a commercial break we need to get you your thoughts on the game.
Frank Franklin
All right, I'll try to wrap up this blog post, hit publish and and I'll be ready next.
Ryan Lemmon
Go to Kentucky sportsradio.com Frank Franklin is in the house with Frank Rutledge. And the Kentucky Wildcats stunk tonight. 6764 lose to North Carolina at Rupp Arena. When Tayshawn Prince was there, Willie Stein was there.
Billy (Co-host)
Rondo was in the crowd.
Ryan Lemmon
Rondo was there. The Hammer was sitting on courtside. He was there.
Billy (Co-host)
Darrell Isaacs.
Caller
Gosh.
Ryan Lemmon
We're right back. This is local toe leaders KSR post game show. Welcome back. Local to leaders KSR postgame show is Kentucky lays a turd. 6764 to UNC at Rupp Arena. Listen, I gotta say something real first. Billy, our sports has been here since 9 o' clock this morning. Did the pre show at 9 o' clock this morning and he just saved the show. Put it back on 630dB. Well done. We're having some issues where the show was not on 630. Wlap. Billy fixed it. An engineer.
Billy (Co-host)
I think it's Billy on there. Well, I mean.
Ryan Lemmon
Oh, here I'm bragging on you. Thought you. Thought you said it was on.
Billy (Co-host)
No, it is. I'm just, you know, don't know anything nowadays. I'm just so tired, Ryan. I'm just glad it's on the air.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, you'll be back while Shannon just.
Frank Franklin
Sleeps there getting resting up for the pre show.
Billy (Co-host)
How much I'll hear about how he had to stay up late to watch this one.
Ryan Lemmon
So that other voice you hear is my son, Frank Franklin.
Frank Franklin
Hello.
Ryan Lemmon
Who has joined us. He unfortunately was at Rupp arena for the game tonight. Just. I'll just open the floor to you, Drew. What are your thoughts?
Frank Franklin
I thought about throwing a Christmas tree off the top of the escalator. No, not that bad. Very disappointed though. It was such a great atmosphere. I mean that they just wasted Rup's fastball tonight. The 9:30 start did not slow down. Big Blue Nation. They're late in the game. I believe it was Todd. I just kind of looked around during a timeout and it is midnight and that place was on fire. Not just that. I'm sure you've already mentioned the Will Stein introduction. Rondo Tayshawn volleyball team. One thing after another bringing the energy and then the team can't score a field goal in the second half.
Ryan Lemmon
Have you seen A drought like that where they went 10 minutes without a field goal, finished the game two of their last 16.
Frank Franklin
I hadn't seen a lot of things. One for 13 from three on a team I'm told is going to take 30 a game and is full of shooters. One for 13 and you're one is Brandon Garrison.
Ryan Lemmon
I mean, do you have that in your bingo card?
Frank Franklin
I did not. My bingo card got wadded up early into the game. You know, the three point shooting and that scoring drought stand out. But on the glass, I mean, the numbers are crazy. 20 offensive rebounds. But it's not like North Carolina. I mean, they have size, they're good, definitely, but Kentucky was just standing around looking at them. They weren't even trying to rebound. And in the. I believe it was late in the game. You know, I'm, I'm there and I'm trying to process all this here on the fly, but I think Yellow Vic got a block up by one. But then North Carolina got two offensive rebounds and hits the three that I believe was the final. Go ahead. I think I'm clear on that. Regardless, it was just one offensive rebound after another offensive rebound and it was purely effort. Yes, they have size, but I could have gone out there and rebounded against that Kentucky team. Malachi Marino was bringing it, but he didn't have any help.
Ryan Lemmon
He was doing everything he could on the defensive end, you know, blocking shots, trying to get some rebounds, but he had zero help. I think Yellow Vish did a great job on Caleb Wilson tonight.
Frank Franklin
He did. He's got to start.
Ryan Lemmon
He does.
Frank Franklin
We were talking about that on the pregame show. I've been trying to speak that into existence for a few weeks. Jack Pilgrim was big on him on pregame show and he did a great job defending Wilson. I mean, he's. We all had the worry about him coming over from European ball after having big Z a couple years ago, looking like he didn't know how to guard that. We throw that narrative out the window. Yellow can play some defense and on a game like this, they need his size too.
Ryan Lemmon
So most of the calls, the theme seems to be how do they fix it? You know, how can they, how can they save it?
Frank Franklin
Fix it? Good luck.
Ryan Lemmon
Is there a way to fix it?
Frank Franklin
Frank Franklin, unless Quaintance comes back and he's just Anthony Davis good or something. It's just. That's so bad. There's nothing to be excited about.
Ryan Lemmon
This squad they've got right now has issues.
Frank Franklin
Yes. I mean, I, you know, there's still lingering, whatever Is from Louisville, but. But I mean, they just have like the team's not even built well. No, like you're a three point shooting team, but I'm not sure you have many three point shooters. Denzel Aberdeen. I don't know the record for airball threes in a season, but I think he's already doubled that up. I don't know how someone can airball so many three pointers.
Ryan Lemmon
And if your best three point shooter is Colin Chandler, well, you got to give him more shots.
Frank Franklin
And he got a good look. That's the end. I sit on there at the end and I thought he had it. I mean, it was a great lane and he needed to finish that. That was a tough loss.
Ryan Lemmon
I have no problem with that last shot. He got to the rim with the left hand. He'd hit one pretty similar to that just right before that. I had no problem with that last shot in.
Frank Franklin
Oh, we kind of had a breakout game, played with some energy. 16 points. The guys hit their free throws. They missed a few critical wins, some front ends that cost them, but overall shot decently well. But I mean, when you don't score in the second half and you just watch the other team rebound, their own misses. We're lucky it was only three point loss.
Ryan Lemmon
You're exactly right. To go 10 minutes without scoring and they get 20 offensive rebounds. How did you. How would they able to keep it close?
Frank Franklin
Even when Kentucky was leading in the second half for a little bit, I kept thinking like, how are they winning? This feels like North Carolina has control of this game. Part of that's because yellow Velchan Wilson, he really didn't dominate too bad. He had some flashy moves there late, little turnaround. I was like, ooh, that's. That's one of those dudes. But other than that, I thought they defended him pretty well. The other big guy was unstoppable.
Ryan Lemmon
Since you were at rep, I wanted to tell you that. I don't know if you know this or not, but Dick Vital, he broadcast some games that Jay Williams used to play in when Duke used to play Kentucky. So just. You may have missed that.
Frank Franklin
All right, so I was there and I haven't heard the broadcast. I was getting a lot of Dick Vital complaints and I don't like that. I mean, he's Dick Vital, but I'm hearing it might not have been his best.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, he just wanted people to know that he did a lot of Jay Williams games, especially when they played Kentucky.
Frank Franklin
Okay. Brought that up a few times.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah. Kind of the Good little love fest there for a while.
Frank Franklin
Yeah, well, I didn't hear much of the postgame show. I was just walking by here and thought, I see a light on upstairs. I'll go check on Billy. I thought you were at home, actually.
Ryan Lemmon
You know, I forgot the equipment at the restaurant.
Frank Franklin
That's why you're here. I didn't expect you. I wouldn't have come up if I'd known I was gonna tricked into being on the radio. Just kidding. Good to be here. But I was gonna ask you. I did hear a caller right before I walked in the building, when I turned it on my headphones, that he seemed to be very upset. Has that been the theme? I don't wanna take up all the. The caller's times here. I want to let everyone vent. But I heard one that was pretty, pretty upset.
Ryan Lemmon
Big Don was upset driving home on i64.
Frank Franklin
That's the one.
Ryan Lemmon
I heard he went to Jeff Ruby. Spent $200. Spent $100 on tickets. And then they lose again. And Big Don kind of summarize what a lot of fans are feeling tonight, I think.
Frank Franklin
Well, let's get me out of the way and get to more Big Don's. That's what people want to hear.
Ryan Lemmon
All right, phone lines are open. 859-280-2287. If you're going to work on your blog, if you got to chime in, just chime in.
Frank Franklin
Okay.
Ryan Lemmon
All right.
Frank Franklin
Can we cuss?
Billy (Co-host)
No.
Ryan Lemmon
There are certain words. You can't just check it.
Frank Franklin
Just checking.
Billy (Co-host)
And we do have to end by two, or the gremlins really take over.
Ryan Lemmon
Oh, okay. What time is it? Oh, we got to get out of here. Okay, let's take a couple calls, and we'll take a break. Who we got for Mandy? Mandy, go ahead. Mandy.
Caller
Hey, it's Tabby Frank.
Ryan Lemmon
Frank's here.
Caller
In a dark place. I feel like. Okay. I just. I just feel like last year, Pope. I feel like Pope had something up his sleeve. Like, in a game, if we were down, I'm like, all right, Pope's gonna call the timeout. He. He's got something up his sleeve. Like, this year, I have no confidence in that whatsoever. I was like, what in the world is going on? But at least I got some sissy cakes today, so that's a positive.
Ryan Lemmon
There you go. There's. There's the bright spot for you, man. You appreciate the phone call. Yeah. Pope, for all the analytics. I don't know how your analytics are going to help you when you can't hit a Three pointer and you can't get a rebound and you can't score within 10 minutes.
Frank Franklin
All right, I'm back. Sorry, I couldn't shut up any longer.
Ryan Lemmon
Good.
Frank Franklin
Since you brought up his analytics, what are the analytics say about taking out your best players early in the game when you have a lead?
Ryan Lemmon
That stinks.
Frank Franklin
Okay, I'm going back to my blog. You guys are doing great.
Ryan Lemmon
That's the number on social media. The number one complaint, I think is still the mass substitutions, you know, substituting two or three guys usually at the first TV timeout. You gave me a hot hand. Nope. Time to make a change. And I know his Pope has said his point is I want to have fresh legs at the end of the game. I got to give my guys a break. And plus the subs, I need them to get in the game a little bit in case I need them late in the game.
Frank Franklin
He needs to have some difficult conversations with a few guys. One of them might have hit a three tonight, and that's good. And you know, I want Jasper to work out, but Pope's really got to get away from the play. Everybody, especially when away and Chandler in that group kind of have it going early. And it's like you do a line change to get everybody their time. I used to coach Hudson Automotive third grade. We made it to the championship game. Great team. But, you know, we'd line up at half court. You'd like point to the guy across from you and everybody had to play a quarter.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah.
Frank Franklin
And every mom had to be happy that that was third grade. We don't need to be doing that right now. Kentucky, you got need to have some difficult conversations and some minutes need to be changing a little bit.
Ryan Lemmon
That is Frank Franklin. Frank Rutledge was here while ago as well. We got one more break, one more second. We have got. We have to get out of here by two o'. Clock. That's not our decision. We have to. So we'll take our final break. Come back. Our final segment. This is the local total leaders KSR postgame show. All right, welcome back. Final segment, the local toe leaders KSR post game show. Kentucky, North Carolina, Rupp Arena. Great crowd, loud crowd. Will Stein, your new football coaches there. Taishan's there, Rondo's there. And you can't score a basket for 10 minutes. Finish the game 2 of 16. We've kind of talked a lot. We got this. We have to be out of here by two o'. Clock. So let's run through some calls real quick and then we'll try to get as many as we can. So who we got first, Bill?
Billy (Co-host)
Well, quickly, Ryan, time for our Johnny Rocker, personal injury attorney, money maker of the game.
Ryan Lemmon
Oh, this is going to be good.
Billy (Co-host)
Injured get small town compassion with big city results. When you call The Rocker at 270-321-4429. We try not to pick the MVP on this segment.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
Tonight we're picking Andrea Yellowic. Six points, three of six shooting. Had four rebounds. Not the best effort, but I thought played good defense at times. Somebody that should probably be getting more minutes. And while he probably needed to rebound a little better, Ryan, he is somebody that stood out to me and is our Johnny Rocker, personal injury attorney, moneymaker of the game.
Ryan Lemmon
I get the great call. Cause like we've said already said, he did the job on Caleb Wilson. Kind of shut him down a little bit tonight and that kind of gave him a chance to stay in the game. So good job, good pick. All right, who we got first?
Billy (Co-host)
Bear Claw.
Ryan Lemmon
Bear Claw. Go ahead, Bear Claw.
Caller
Hey, how's it going, guys? I'm not going to be all doom and gloom like everybody else. We only lost by three. We didn't have our starting point guard, we didn't have our best defensive player Modiabate. And come in January, probably we're going to get Jaden Quaintance back. We're going to be a completely different team. SEC play. We're going to be great. We're still final four bound.
Commercial Announcer
We're good.
Caller
Go cats.
Ryan Lemmon
Wow. Mr. Bear Claw, Mr. Positive there. I think we needed to hear that a little bit. I don't know if it's going to come to fruition, but he brings some good points. Our better players are not even playing right now.
Frank Franklin
I guess we need some good balance. Yeah, I don't have, I don't share the enthusiasm and the optimism, but we need that.
Ryan Lemmon
We need that little, little boost.
Billy (Co-host)
When Mark Pope said Jalen Lowe was going to be day to day forever, I didn't worry about him playing through it.
Ryan Lemmon
I want to know what's going on, Diabate. Something's going on. You don't have a sprang dank on miss a week and a half yet. You still practice. Why aren't you playing?
Frank Franklin
I don't have that answer, but I don't like that it's December 2nd. Well, now third at this hour and we're having all these what's going on questions.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah, who's next? Billy?
Billy (Co-host)
Mike.
Ryan Lemmon
Mike. Go ahead, Mike.
Caller
Hey, guys, this is Mike from Knoxville and I just want to say That I don't understand the last series of the game where Chandler is taking the ball out of bounds when he and away are our best options for shooting a three pointer to tie the game. Explain that to me.
Ryan Lemmon
All right, appreciate it, Mike. This is where I'll explain it. Their analytics will tell you the guy who takes the ball out is the easiest to get the ball back. So that's why they like sometimes your best shooter will take it out because he can easily get it back when he comes in inbounds.
Frank Franklin
But he just threw it away across. Across the court. I mean at that point it was over. But I agree with the caller. It was like what are we doing? Why is Chandler throw it into Chandler? There's only a couple.
Ryan Lemmon
Oh, you're talking about the last play.
Frank Franklin
Oh, is that what he was talking about? Because I was mad about the last play. I mean you don't have really. But like they didn't give themselves an opportunity. They just lobbed it up to. To North Carolina to dribble it out.
Ryan Lemmon
Totally stand.
Caller
Correct.
Ryan Lemmon
If he's talking about the absolute last play, then yeah, that's where my brain went.
Frank Franklin
There could have been another. Sorry, I'm back to. You guys are doing great though.
Ryan Lemmon
Who's next?
Billy (Co-host)
Who do you give the last shot to on this team? Is it Chandler? Because that's who got it tonight.
Ryan Lemmon
No, Chandler threw it out of bounds is what the guy. That's what the caller was saying. Chandler threw it from the end zone, threw it out of bounds. Trying to throw it to somebody.
Frank Franklin
Nobody.
Billy (Co-host)
Well, he missed the layup.
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
To tie the game.
Ryan Lemmon
And he had a good look. Had a good look.
Billy (Co-host)
Let's go to Steve.
Ryan Lemmon
Steve, Go ahead, Steve.
Caller
Hello, Mr. Lammon. Frank Franklin took a few of my things, but I just want to say Mark Pope's got a 22 million dollar roster designed to be beat up on. What sub 300 teams. UNC out rebounded offensively. I mean they were just killing them in the pain. And then. Yeah, even Mark Pope touched on. Are they playing for the front of the jersey or the back of the jersey? And who's to say when Jalen Quinn comes back that he's going to play for the front of jersey? And then also you got low. I mean, can he still red shirt. Didn't he coach that? It was also 13 minutes and 8 seconds without an offensive field goal. Who was going to be the OT lineup? And then also NCAA positioning. I mean you got to have quality out of conference wins. The sec, ACC matchup. The ACC is taking It. So you're not going to get the quality wins that you need in the SEC regular season and then out of bounds plays. I don't know what Mark Post doing, Steve.
Ryan Lemmon
We appreciate it. You know, he's right about the ncaa. They have their best win is what Eastern Illinois, Loyola, Maryland, Tennessee Tech. Our resume ain't looking too good right now.
Frank Franklin
I don't know if any of those are in the top. I know they're not in the top 200. I don't know if they're in the top 250.
Ryan Lemmon
But we did win a tournament championship.
Frank Franklin
Oh, man. I really tried to make that a thing. Now that just frustrates me that I even pretended that was fun.
Billy (Co-host)
Good thing you didn't smoke those cigars and go through with the whole celebration you had planned.
Frank Franklin
Yeah, it's hard to smile about anything right now.
Ryan Lemmon
It is.
Frank Franklin
I'm heading to Nashville Friday. That's supposed to be a fun weekend. I have, I have concerns that could.
Ryan Lemmon
Be ugly if we're not at full strength.
Frank Franklin
Can't go 0 and 4 in our.
Ryan Lemmon
First four non conference games.
Frank Franklin
Just you really start having tournament questions at that point.
Ryan Lemmon
Who's next? Billy?
Billy (Co-host)
Jerry.
Ryan Lemmon
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
Caller
Hey, Ron, Ryan, can you hear me?
Ryan Lemmon
Yeah, go ahead, Jerry.
Caller
Yes, Jerry, listen, we need more, we need more callers.
Ryan Lemmon
Is this Jerry?
Caller
Yes.
Ryan Lemmon
Okay, go ahead, Jerry.
Caller
We need more callers, Ryan, like Big Don than we do Bear claw. Okay. He talking about all this, you know, we're going to be fine. I'm telling you, Ryan, his team, they ain't going to the NCAA tournament. They're not doing it. This team don't have it. I mean, I was there tonight. I'm driving home just like Big Don. They're not doing it. Two o' clock in the morning here. I am not home, gotta be at work at 6 and we go down there and watch a snooze fest.
Ryan Lemmon
Thought well, Jerry, appreciate it, man. Be careful driving home and especially if you're going to work at six o' clock in the morning. I mean everybody, they got a right to be mad. You got a right to be frustrated. You got a right to be upset with what we saw tonight. And there's, like I said, there's no, I don't think there's an easy answer until those guys get healthy. Because there's this, this squad we got right now. There is obviously some issues and some things going on that I don't know if it can be worked out without getting our guys healthy.
Billy (Co-host)
We got two on the line in like four minutes. You want to get through? Let's do it.
Ryan Lemmon
Let's do it real fast.
Billy (Co-host)
Tyler.
Ryan Lemmon
Tyler, you got. I'm sorry, you just got a minute. Go ahead, Tyler.
Caller
Yeah, I was there at Rock tonight. Took my 14 year old son there as a birthday present. It was. It was a rough night, and I know I got to be quick, but this team has no offensive identity at all. I know we got to get healthy, but that's if these guys get healthy. And there's a lot of if. And, you know, if ifs and buts were cherries and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. And I just feel like this team has no offensive identity. There's more questions and answers, and at the end of the day, if these guys do get healthy, I mean, you still got to put quality wins together. Gonzaga's coming up, and this looks like a team that could beat us by 30 on Friday. It's just not a lot of optimism. So I'm hoping for, you know, hoping for something better, but we'll see what happens in the future. Go Cats.
Ryan Lemmon
Good call. Thank you, Tyler. Great call. Good one right there. We got one more, then we're going to wrap it up with this one. Who we got? Yeah.
Billy (Co-host)
David.
Ryan Lemmon
David. Go ahead, David. You're. You're our last one. If you're a good one.
Caller
Thanks. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna try to be positive, even though it's hard to be because. Because we've been done this before 2014. I'm. I'm not saying that will happen again. I'm just saying I'm not giving up on the season again.
Ryan Lemmon
Well, David, hang in there. If you appreciate the phone call, hang in there. And that's kind of going to be the rallying cry for all fans because they could lose another one on this weekend. Gonzaga on Friday. What's our record right now, Drew, in games that matter? What are we, five and three?
Frank Franklin
Yeah. So they owe three to me. Even though those other ones were fun. That didn't. That didn't do anything. That didn't move the needle.
Ryan Lemmon
And just the fact that, you know, Louisville whomped us. I'm almost cussed.
Frank Franklin
And Billy said we can't do that. I got a quick no when I asked. Not that I would have done it. I was just putting.
Ryan Lemmon
There are certain words we can't say. We can say some words, but there's some words we can't say. Michigan whomped us, and tonight you stunk at home against North Carolina. So all three of these Non conference games. You played horrible in three of them. All three of them.
Frank Franklin
It was fun picking on the other teams, but when you run into some. Some size and some physicality, I mean, they just wilt away. When the lights come on, Kentucky goes the other direction. Or at least so far.
Ryan Lemmon
But Tayshawn Prince was there. Willie Collie Stein was there. Well, not Kali Stein. Willie Stein was there.
Frank Franklin
Wasted a good RUP night. Can't lose games like that at rup. Should never lose it. Rupert.
Billy (Co-host)
Glad they hired a new football coach before this loss.
Ryan Lemmon
And looks like Justin Burke's coming back to Lexington to be on his staff.
Frank Franklin
And my boy Pat Biondo was there.
Ryan Lemmon
You had the scoop.
Frank Franklin
Yeah, Chaos Borden.
Ryan Lemmon
Oh, he was there at the game tonight, too.
Frank Franklin
Maybe. Was he? I don't know.
Ryan Lemmon
You tell me.
Frank Franklin
I don't know. Was he?
Ryan Lemmon
You tell me. You were there.
Billy (Co-host)
He was.
Frank Franklin
I want to forget about everything.
Ryan Lemmon
All right, we got to get here. Billy has to be back on the air in seven hours for the KSR pregame show. Pre show? Then KSR will be live at KS Bar and Grill. It's wings day. Should be a lot of fun. We rehashed what was a wonderful night at Rupp Arena. Introducing our new head football coach and watching our basketball team stink it up. 67, 64 lost in North Carolina. Final words.
Frank Franklin
Frank, I'll see you in a few hours.
Ryan Lemmon
In a few hours.
Frank Franklin
Might sleep, might not. We got a couch here.
Ryan Lemmon
There is a couch.
Frank Franklin
I got more work to do.
Ryan Lemmon
So you still got some blogging?
Frank Franklin
I'm just getting started on the blog.
Ryan Lemmon
Billy, final words.
Billy (Co-host)
No, not tonight.
Ryan Lemmon
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The KSR crew—Ryan Lemmon, Billy (co-host), and, later, Frank Franklin—provide the postgame analysis of Kentucky’s tough 67-64 loss to North Carolina at Rupp Arena. This late-night episode unpacks a disappointing performance and the growing frustrations within the fanbase, offering a hard look at Mark Pope’s roster construction, Kentucky’s ongoing non-conference struggles, player absences, and the downward trajectory of the program.
Ryan Lemmon on the team’s woes:
“You can't make a stop in crunch time on defense. You're not going to beat anybody and, or it's going to be hard to beat people.” (04:49)
On the lack of rebounds:
Billy: “Kentucky had eight offensive rebounds, five second chance points, eight assists to nine turnovers.” (10:11)
On hopelessness and roster construction:
Frank Franklin: “Like you're a three point shooting team, but I'm not sure you have many three point shooters. Denzel Aberdeen. I don't know the record for airball threes in a season, but I think he's already doubled that up.” (31:11)
On the emotional low in the fan base:
Big Don: “It's been for the last, what, six years? Bull crap. Bull crap. Ever since COVID we haven't got anything good out of this program. It's went to hell. One sweet 16. I can't do it no more.” (18:38)
On Pope:
Caller Robert: “I think Mark Pope just doesn't have it...He just does not have the game knowledge to lead...Kentucky to, to be the...to win.” (15:47)
Moments of levity:
Frank Franklin jokes about wanting to “throw a Christmas tree off the top of the escalator” after the loss. (28:35)