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Matt Jones
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They needed it. Texas is kind of the epitome of a bubble team, right? They were on the bubble last year, made the first four. I think they're going to probably be on the bubble this year. And when you play a team like that on your home court you have to beat them and Kentucky did. In terms of the thing that I am keeping my eye on for the rest of the year is can Kentucky do enough to make the tournament which still is my goal. And that probably became even more true after what happened tonight. This was one you needed and you need Saturday against Ole Miss because then you're going to start your schedule starting next game starting after Ole Miss. Not only is the schedule the hardest in the country, it already was he anyway, but it really is the hardest in the country. I mean you have every game except one after the next one is against a team, maybe two, a likely tournament team. So you got to get your wins when you can. And this was a nice one to get away. Was great in the first half. Well, first of all, let's talk about some things that I think the team did overall really well. Drawing fouls. Okay? Texas comes into the game leading the country in fouls drawn. Leading the country in free throws. Leading the country in free throws made. Okay. That's what they do. They are, you know, Mark Pope sort of said they're kind of a dirty team, but not in the way that you think of. Like for hockey fans. The Florida Panthers are. They're like dirty in the sense of they're going to bang into you and make the referees call fouls. And they did that tonight. This game had a lot of foul calls, but Kentucky matched them and they did exactly the same thing, maybe even did it a little better than Texas. Kentucky makes 30 of their 35 free throws. That's awesome. And three of their misses were Aberdeen. In the last three and a half minutes before that, they missed two free throws for the game. I mean, that is, that is really, really impressive. And it's why they were able to win. They held Texas to two three pointers made. The two they made were two threes where Brandon Garrison didn't get out on his man and let him shoot once with the shot clock running down. Otherwise they might have gone through the game allowing no threes. I thought they played excellent defense on the perimeter. They said Texas beat us down low and Texas scored 80, but we were able to score 85. I kind of thought Texas puts up a lot of points. I think I said on the pregame show, 80 is the minimum. Well, if that's true, we held them to the minimum and that's what you needed to do. And the Kentucky offensively found its rhythm. I thought obviously Colin Chandler was Great in the second half. Scored 14 out of Kentucky's 15 points at one point in a row. Made shots, but also was aggressive. This was the Colin Chandler that we saw a little bit in the non conference and that we expected going into the year. We had it the whole game tonight. And that Colin Chandler, by the way, he will have to do that going forward. And then Denzel, Aberdeen was good again. Had a little bit, missed those free throws, had a turnover at the end, but made enough down the stretch to get the victory. Obviously you got great minutes from Moreno. I might thank Billy Nate Oates for saving our season. He said we never passed it out of the post. Moreno had six assists tonight. Nate Oates was right. It's funny, I think it was last year Nate Oates said after the Alabama game, I think they now know how to play and he was right. And I think he was right about this team too, because you're seeing a lot more ball movement since he said that. Moreno with six assists, Diabate gave some good minutes defensively, although his plus minus wasn't great because of one particular stretch he was in. But overall, I thought for the most part, you got something out of everybody. Now the bad news, Cam Williams breaks his foot. I'm not sure that you can have much worse injury luck than Kentucky's had the last two years. I mean, just think about it. Lamont Butler had an injury very similar to Jalen Lowe's. You basically lost your starting point card both years when it was the one position you couldn't afford to lose. In both years, you lost it. You last year had constant injuries, nagging injuries for Andrew Carr and for Jackson Robinson, and then Kirk Crease is out for the year. So they had four very significant injuries last year. And even though three of them played through it, I don't think any of those guys was 100% healthy at the end of the year. And now this year, Jalen Lowe out for the year. I don't know what's going to happen with Quaint's. I hope he's coming back, but every game he doesn't play, you start to think more and more that he might not. And now you lose. Cam Williams. Now, apparently his injuries, a broken foot, depending on the kind of fracture, that can be four to six weeks. Pope did not rule out him coming back, but I mean, you can do the math. You would be looking at at best, you know, SEC tournament, NCAA tournament, and I don't know how you can think that immediately that guy would come back and be ready to go. So I'm just going to, for my mind, think he's not going to play the rest of the year. If he does, I'll be very happy. But for my mind, I'm just going to assume he doesn't. So on a roster where you had 13 guys, you're now down to nine because they've chosen not to play Braden Hawthorne you yet. So what happens? Well, on the one hand, if you're Jasper Johnson or you're Trent Noah, I mean, the reality is you've got to play. Probably both of those guys have to play. Jasper certainly has to play, but I think Trent Noah now probably will as well. And both of these guys are Kentucky kids who a lot has been expected of them from a long time. All right. Guys, now you've got, you've got 12 games to do it. You got 12 games to sort of be the guy that everyone has hoped you'd be since you were in eighth grade. Like, that's what they have because they need both those guys. There's no way they can play without them. You know, they have two of every big man. But now at the guard position, you know you're going to play away Aberdeen and Chandler until they fall over, but they're going to have to have a break and Jasper Johnson and Noah are going to have to play. So it's time for those guys to step up. I think you also have to consider, Billy, do you have to consider where you, where you, whether you pull the red shirt for Hawthorne?
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Billy Reed
Yeah, maybe.
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Matt Jones
I mean, I think you have to consider it, like right now, what is the rule? I think there's a rule for an injury red shirt. Is that correct? Where if you're injured, you get it because. Because, Because Jalen Lowe, if he played one more game, would not have been able to get his year right.
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Billy Reed
There's a medical red shirt, but there's.
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Matt Jones
Not a, hey, we could just play the last nine games of the year, not basketball.
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Billy Reed
In football, you can play a few games and still get a red shirt.
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Matt Jones
See, I think there should be, but there's not. But the NCAA may change that rule, by the way, the NCAA is, a lot of people think is going to do to kind of keep these guys from coming in from other things. A five years to play five rule. And if it does, I would assume it would apply retroactively. So I think there's a real question about whether or not you bring Hawthorne on because he plays the position you need. I don't know how good he is, but he's a body. You got a situation now where if you get foul trouble, you know, what are you going to do? You're going to play diabate at the three. Like, I think you have to think about it. And if I'm, if I'm Hawthorne, like, I might end up getting that year back anyway if the end, if the NCAA changes its rules. So I, I wish I kept hoping someone in the media, I don't think they did, or Tom Leach would have asked that question to me. That's the, the question to ask. What about him? He's on the roster. Reese Potter's on the roster. But you don't really need another big. So I think you got to think about it, don't you, Billy?
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Billy Reed
Yeah, I think you're right. About Noah, I think we're going to see a lot more of him. It's going to be his opportunity.
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Matt Jones
I'm fine with that but I think you still may be needing because like they're going to be guys Noah can't guard. Right. If you put like if you play a team that has a Cam Williams as their three, Noah can't guard him. I'm not sure if Jasper Johnson can guard him so I think you have to think about that and then the other option is, you know Alabama added a G league player today. Do we add a G league player? Billy, now that there's. There was a report, there was a report that some guy named Dink is Kentucky been in contact with. I think that unless I got trolled and now listen, anything is possible nowadays with, with. But isn't there a guy named Dink Pate? Dink paid is a, is a G league person. I believe he's a guard. He apparently played for Jason Hart on okay, Westchester Knicks guard Dink Paint. Dink. I can't say his name. Dink Pate is exploring college options. He's a 19 year old former G League Ignite product. Averaged 18 points a game for the G league ignite. I mean can I just say I don't need to know anything else. Just go get him.
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Billy Reed
We could use some of that, right?
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Matt Jones
Why not?
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Billy Reed
Well, locker room.
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Matt Jones
He had 31 in his last game. Who cared? I mean get over it. Y' all don't like each other anyway. Billy.
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Billy Reed
Well that would be the one thing.
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Matt Jones
Although I will say that looks better to me by the way. What the sort. The sort of like, you know, how it looked for a while like the team didn't like each other. I feel like that looks a lot better now if you just kind of watch them both on and off the court. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully it is but so I'm saying I don't think if Cam Williams is out for the year, I don't know if you can status quo it because I don't think you have enough guys. I think you have nine guys which normally would be okay except you have four of them are post bigs. You know what I mean? Like four of them are post bigs. Malachi Garrison, Yellow Vic and Diabate are all. I mean Yellow Vich can step out. They're all bigs in the traditional sense. You have five players to play the one through three. One guy gets in foul trouble, you're in trouble.
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Billy Reed
Yeah and with Hawthorne's red shirt do guys really stay for five years anymore? Like, is that the plan? Just seems.
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Matt Jones
I would think so now. I think more people would consider doing that now because of Nil. But I don't think Braden Hawthorne came to college and said, I hope to be here five years.
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Billy Reed
Right?
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Matt Jones
And like I said, they may very well change that rule to where everyone gets five years, where basically they say you have five years from your. I mean, the. The report has been the possibility of you graduate high school and you have five years from that day to play five years, and then you're done. No matter what, you can go to the United Nations. You're still done. But between Braden Hawthorne and Dink Pate, I think you got to add one of them, don't you?
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Billy Reed
I mean, you're making sense if you got five guys for three spots. I mean, it's just a number.
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Matt Jones
Five guys for three spots, one of whom hasn't in the last 10 games, except for a minute tonight. Trent Noah, so. And Jasper Johnson, I don't think has had a game with more than 12 minutes all year. So I think you've got to. I think you got to consider it if you think either of those guys can help you at all. And I don't. I admit that when I hear the name Dink Pate, that doesn't even sound like a real human being.
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Billy Reed
That's a tough first name, Dink, but.
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Matt Jones
I think I would like it. Bill, you could be a Dink Twink. All right? That's what you could be. Dink Twink would be that. You would be that excited.
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Billy Reed
I know Drew was looking for baby names this morning, so there's one for you.
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Matt Jones
So I just. I think you got to consider doing that. But I want to give this team a lot of credit. Winning this game was big tonight. This is one you could have dropped. This is exactly now, Saturday. I don't know what the weather's going to be like. That's going to be another subplot of the next 48 hours. Are people gonna be able to get to the game? I think it's supposed to start snowing during the game, but now you get to where if you can win Saturday against Ole Miss, you have a chance to still get the path for the tournament, which is where my goal is for this team. You know, I think I tweeted to somebody earlier, I don't expect this team to win the ninth title. I don't even know if I expect them to get to the second weekend, but I want them to get to the tournament. I like how they're playing with With Hart. I like that guys are starting to come into a role and I think if you have one more piece, you can be the best version of whatever it is you are. And I hope they. I hope they do that. 859-280-2287 we will take a break. Billy, I want you to learn some facts for me about Dink Pate.
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Billy Reed
I'm on.
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Matt Jones
Even though this may be a person we never talk about ever again. If we're going to do it, though, we're going to do it like in the next day or two. Right?
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Billy Reed
Has to.
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Matt Jones
I think the drop ad I saw for UK is Friday. So, like, literally, if you're going to have him, you got to call him tonight. I'm not kidding. Well, like, if he's got to be. If he's got to be, we'd have.
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Billy Reed
To be enrolled Friday and playing in Mexico City.
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Matt Jones
Fine. Like, get his passport stamped, get him in here. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the local Toyota dealers KSR postgame show. I'm talking about Deep Pay. Whether you want me to or not. Somebody wrote me and goes, matt, Dink paint's not all that good. I don't know why you're worried about. How do you. You don't know. Do you think anybody knows, Billy, what Dink paid is like, first of all, I'm looking at a picture at him. He's the same height and has the same haircut as Cam. Yes. That's good. Yeah, that's a good sign. Plus, nobody you, no one's seen him play. One person says, matt, I don't think these G League guys should be in the. In college basketball. Thus I don't think we should sign them. I. Whether you think they should be or not is a fair question to debate. I. It doesn't bother me, as I said when the Baylor kids signed them. But even if you don't think they should, I would still argue you still get him. And here's what I mean by that. Like, I think there are tax breaks that are given to people that should not be given. There are loopholes to paying your taxes that if I were in charge, I would say, get rid of that. Make these people pay this. But if they exist and if they're. I'm eligible for them, why wouldn't I take it? You can fight the fight to say they shouldn't exist, but if they do exist, you would be silly not to do it. Similarly, you can Think G League players shouldn't be in the. In college basketball, but if they are allowed to be in college basketball, then you fight to not make them eligible in the future, but you take them now. Am I wrong?
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Billy Reed
No. I mean, you'd be foolish to not go through with the tax loophole if you're eligible for it, even though you.
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Matt Jones
Hate it, even if you think it's bad. You know, I've thought this many times there. When I get my. When I talk to my accountant a couple times, he'll be like, you can take this. And I'll go, really? And he's like, yeah. And I go, okay. And I would think, well, if I was president, I wouldn't allow that. But you still do it. Same thing here. You. If it's allowed and he can help you, you would take it. Now, the Hawthorne thing, Pope has seen him in practice all year, so he would know. I don't know because I never saw the kid play. So Pope would know whether or not he thinks he could be helpful this year, and I trust his judgment on that because he's seen him play. All right, who's up first?
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Billy Reed
Doug is up.
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Matt Jones
Doug. Go ahead, Doug.
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Caller
Hey. I just want to know how they overcome not going down 12 points in the first half or 15 or whatever it was.
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Matt Jones
Well, you saw, when we don't do that, we. It's an easier thing. You know, I. I like the fact that even though they gave up like 2 or 370 or 90 runs, I like that they immediately followed up on that because, you know, against Tennessee and against LS you, I think those runs were like 13 to 2, and by limiting it to 7 0, you were able to kind of write the ship and. And keep the game close.
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Caller
They were. And it's. It's pretty awesome. I've been turning the games off every night because I don't like it. Do you understand that concept?
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Matt Jones
What do you mean? What do you mean, turn. You mean turn the post game off or turn the actual game off?
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Caller
The actual game off. Because what. It seems like every time I turn it off, they come back and win.
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Billy Reed
Oh.
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Matt Jones
Oh, I know that. Oh, yes, for sure. Like, you think, oh, I did that tonight. I did that tonight. They. They got up. They went on like, a 70 run. I think we were up six. They went on a 70 run, took a one point lead. I turned it off, came back a few minutes, we were up three. And I thought I'd. I'd fixed it.
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Caller
I never felt comfortable until it was like 20 seconds left or Whatever it.
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Matt Jones
Was, I didn't feel comfortable until they missed the three when we were up five.
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Caller
I appreciate. Oh, yeah, God bless y'. All. I'm first time caller, but God bless y'.
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Billy Reed
All.
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Caller
I'll hang up and listen the rest of it.
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Matt Jones
Appreciate you. I agree with you. I, I do that. Listen, I'm, I'm. I'll be completely honest. I do the. Turn it off for a couple minutes because I can't watch. Been doing it since I was a child, that. I'm not proud of that, but that's the kind. And I think it makes a difference sometimes.
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Billy Reed
Well, it was just nice not to go down 17 in the first 10 minutes of the game, wasn't it?
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Matt Jones
Yes, without a question. By the way, I am, I am really bummed about Cam because I think, I think he was just playing really well and I think he gives us exactly, you know, I, I think it gives us an exact. Exactly what we need. Now, apparently Mark Pope said he made a statement on the current situation with NCAA eligibility. He said the NCAA may lose in court, but they still get to decide who makes the NCAA tournament. So use that to bring some sanity to the situation. Mark's really smart, but the NCAA would be. Would be ridiculous to violate court orders. I mean, when, when, when the court. I mean, Mark, you're a smart guy. There was a court order in Alabama that says a federal court. A federal judge said. I think it was federal judge, maybe a state judge, but I think it was a federal judge said, you have to allow this guy to play. If the NCAA were to get in the way of that, that would be phenomenally stupid.
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Billy Reed
What is he saying? They would hold us out of the tournament if we were to have somebody like.
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Matt Jones
I guess he's saying the NCAA should say, I'll tell Alabama they can't go to the term. That's. That's like using, you know, what is it using a nuclear weapon to. To shoot a fly.
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Billy Reed
Okay.
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Matt Jones
No, I'm serious. Like, if you, if the NCAA wanted to escalate this Alabama situation and hold them out of the tournament, when a federal judge or a state judge or whatever is told, then they have to play, have to be allowed to play, then you're just. That's, That's. I like Mark. That's the silliest thing I've heard Mark say. That's ridiculous. Now, with that said, maybe that means he's not going to go get dink pate, but there are reports today that they reached out. So if they did actually reach out, then that statement makes even less sense to me. If you reached out, why are you ranting about the idea of him playing? But I didn't hear the question, so to be fair, I didn't hear the old answer. So I can't say for sure what it was about. Who's next?
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Billy Reed
Richard.
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Matt Jones
Richard. Go ahead, Richard.
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Caller
Hey, like you said, I'm really bummed out about Cam Williams, but, you know, everything happens for a reason. And to push back on the G League idea, I think that, you know, like Sun Tzu said, throw your soldiers into positions where there is no escape and they will prefer death to flight. That's why we've gotten Denzel Aberdeen to be a demon. That's why he's gotten Johnson to step up, because there is no other option now. There's no other option for Trent Noah. He's gonna have to step up. And he will. Because the best version of this team is not one where we go get some G League mercenary. It's one where we had at least two big Trent Noah games. Signature Trent Noah.
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Matt Jones
So you wouldn't. You would look at him coming back. If you knew he was going to be. If you knew he was going to be eligible. Let's just assume you knew he would be eligible and let's assume you knew he would be. Let's just say he'd be good as Cam, maybe a little better. You still wouldn't take him?
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Caller
No. First, because it's chemistry problem. Second, because it's not Kentucky. We've been put in purgatory once. We don't want to be there again.
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Matt Jones
Purgatory. These other teams are getting to play them.
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Caller
I know, I know. But at least spiritually, I mean, you know, hersher side, push aside NATO, it's push aside Scott Drew. They're losers. I'm glad they didn't come here. The best version of this team, they've won. I want to see the season I want to see is going to be one where we have Trent Noah starting where he's stepping up into Cam. Cam's shoes. And Cam is going to guide him through practice and to making him the best version of himself. And we're going to have some very good Trent Noah games. I'm sorry, I'm kind of taking a Chester role here, but I haven't heard Chester call here since like, like two years. And I miss him. He's very optimistic.
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Matt Jones
I appreciate the call. He has called since then.
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Caller
No, I.
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Matt Jones
That's a completely reasonable take. I would disagree with you on the. Some sort of like this is some sort of spiritual thing not to take a G league guy. I mean, we have taken European pros. Yellow Vich is older than. Than this guy would be and also played professionally. So I don't, I don't believe there's some sort of spiritual difference in playing basketball for money in Europe versus playing basketball for money here. Now the chemistry issue I think is a reasonable one to wonder about. Like I said, I'm not sure this team has had the best chemistry all year anyway. But again, this is something Pope would know that I would not. If Pope thought having a kid come from outside the team would cause chemistry issues, then he shouldn't do that. He could judge that better than I could because obviously I haven't been around him to. To know. Did you find any facts for me?
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Billy Reed
Yeah, here's some facts about Dink. He's 19 years old, graduated college in 2023. He did sign an Exhibit 10 and completed that deal in the NBA. But he is.
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Matt Jones
What is an Exhibit 10?
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Billy Reed
I don't know. But this is what like prospects do in the NBA. Yes.
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Matt Jones
Sounds like a court.
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Billy Reed
But he is holding off on signing a two way because he does want to keep his option open to rejoin.
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Matt Jones
Okay, so he hasn't even signed the two way.
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Billy Reed
He's not.
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Matt Jones
So. So he would be. I would argue he has a better eligibility case than both the Baylor and the Alabama.
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Billy Reed
Did they sign two ways before they did?
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Or I know the Baylor kid did. I'm not sure if the Alabama kid did. Yeah. Or actually maybe. Maybe neither of them did. I don't know. I could be wrong about that. Don't hold me to the. But still them not signing a two way, that's good. The only other person I've ever known named Dink.
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Billy Reed
You know another Dink?
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Matt Jones
Well, in wrestling there was a guy named Doink the Clown. Did you. Do you remember Doink the Clown?
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Billy Reed
No, that was. I missed that.
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Matt Jones
Doink the Clown was a character kind of at the low point of the WWE, like mid-90s. It was just an old guy and he was in a clown suit. Look him up so you can see what I want you to see him while I tell you what I'm gonna say, look up Doink the Clown.
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Billy Reed
Okay. All right, I'm looking at him.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, looks like a, like, you know, they had Barnum and Bailey Circus, but then there was a circus that came to Middlesboro that was a little bit more low budget was Doink. It was like the minor league of circuses. I don't remember who Put it on. It wasn't Barnum and baby. It was like Carnom and Failey and Doink the clown looked like one of their clowns. Well, Doink, for a while he would have a little person come out with him and he was called Dink.
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Billy Reed
Oh, he had a little, little Dink with him.
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Matt Jones
It would be Doink and Dink.
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Billy Reed
I kind of love that.
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Matt Jones
Very few people. Very few people. There are very few people listening to this who know Doink and Dink. But if you do, send me a text on the text machine. So I don't feel like I'm the only person who does. Apparently exhibit 10 is just a, is a 10 day contract according to Mar. Now, I don't know if Mario knows that or not, but. But let's just.
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Billy Reed
I would trust Mario on that.
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Matt Jones
All right. Yeah, he watches the NBA a lot.
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Billy Reed
Also, Doink was paired with his little person sidekick Dink, who was given to him by Santa Claus.
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Matt Jones
I don't remember the Santa Claus. I did not remember. Remember that part. All right, who's next?
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Billy Reed
Cannon.
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Matt Jones
Cannon. Go ahead, Cannon.
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Caller
Hey, Matt, how's it going?
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Matt Jones
How you doing?
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Caller
Here's something wholesome for you. I'm down here at Baptist Health right now and my daughter was born today at 3:47pm Congratulations.
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Matt Jones
So your daughter was born today and you called a post game show tonight. So it's post game for the game and the birth.
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Caller
Yes, sir. The. Well, obviously when she was born, I was in a little bit of shock, but one of the first things I remember telling her, I knew it was coming, but okay, you know, it's my, it's my first baby. I'm only 20. But I understand. I was in shock. But the first thing I remember telling her was you get to watch the basketball game tonight with your daddy.
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Matt Jones
Oh, that's.
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Caller
And to me, that's what Kentucky basketball is all about. And you know, for me it always goes, God, family, Kentucky basketball. And I can't wait to experience it with her.
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Matt Jones
Well, you proved it tonight and I appreciate the call. That's very nice. We've had this. That might be the first call the day of a birth. Maybe not. Actually, I think about that. Maybe we have had that happen, but it hasn't happened very much. So congratulations, sir. Mario was wrong about the tip.
- [29:41]
Billy Reed
Oh, Mario. His score prediction today too was. What was that? Was the aliens impact that.
- [29:49]
Matt Jones
Well, no, I like it. He needs to keep picking Kentucky to lose because we're undefeated. When he does, we are four. And oh, when Mario's picked us to lose. So I'm asking. My mom says that two of her lawyer friends had a mother whose name was Dink. So we have Dink the Clown, my mom's lawyer friends, mother, and maybe a future Kentucky basketball player. Who's next?
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Billy Reed
Jerry.
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Matt Jones
Jerry. Go ahead, Jerry.
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Caller
Hey, man, I got one thing to say, man. I'll make it quick. Why in the world would you not play Potter and Hawthorne?
- [30:23]
Matt Jones
Well, Potter's another big. I mean, Potter's another. Potter's seven feet tall. I don't think we need him. I mean, I don't. I mean, he would probably not get off the bench. Hawthorne, I think is a better. A better question.
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Caller
Okay, I understand that. But at the end of the day, if you don't play POD or Hawthorne, you know they're not coming back next year. But at least play Hawthorne. He's 6, 8, athletic. Go ahead and play him. Let's see how, you know, see how it all works out right now.
- [30:53]
Matt Jones
I understand. Thank you. I'm with you especially because I think it's very likely that you get a fifth year anyway. I think that that rule is coming.
- [31:03]
Caller
So.
- [31:04]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think that year is coming. So. So, so that's what I would say. Apparently Dink Pate has the same agent as Brandon Garrison.
- [31:14]
Billy Reed
That's good. So we know who to contact.
- [31:17]
Matt Jones
That's true. Who's up next?
- [31:19]
Billy Reed
Ryan.
- [31:20]
Matt Jones
Ryan, go ahead.
- [31:23]
Caller
Yes. I going back to either Trent over a Jasper Johnson playing. I think Jasper is probably be your best option. I feel like he can defend better than Trent. Noah. Trent. Noah might be able to step back and hit three, but the overall package, I feel like it's Jasper Johnson.
- [31:44]
Matt Jones
I. Jasper Johnson is who needs to step up. And I appreciate the call. I said that when, when we lost low. I mean, we need Jasper Johnson playing 20 minutes a game and we need him playing. Well, it hasn't happened yet except for the first half against Tennessee, but we need that. So Jasper Johnson, if you're. If I'm ranking for you options, Jasper Johnson becoming really good is the number one option. If you could tell me that tomorrow I could get the Jasper Johnson I thought I was going to get this year, then that would be my option. But I don't know that because I just haven't seen it enough. And then I don't see Hawthorne. So I don't know that. And as far as Noah, Noah can play better than he's played. I think even he would acknowledge it's been a disappointing year. But can Noah guard the kind of guys we're talking about. And I, I don't know the answer to that. I really don't. I, I, I don't think that's what he. They use him for. So, so I, I don't know. 859-280-22877 One person says, Matt, I've been to two Westchester Knicks games this year. Wow. Dink is our second best player behind Donovan Williams, who played at unlv.
- [33:02]
Billy Reed
Sounds like Kentucky could use them.
- [33:05]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think so. Who's next?
- [33:08]
Billy Reed
Michael.
- [33:09]
Matt Jones
Michael. Go ahead, Michael.
- [33:12]
Caller
Hey, Matt. First time who are glad the Clap cats pulled that off. I got a little word there towards the end when they were kind of close, but freak. Those really won that game for us today. I'm surprised how many we took.
- [33:27]
Matt Jones
I, I'm surprised we got to the line so much, but I'm also very impressed. We made, I mean, 30 out of 35 again. And three were missed at the end in, in serious time. I think they were. I think I saw at one point they were like 26 of 28. That's. That's winning basketball. And to get to the line more than the team that leads the country and drawing fouls, you got to give them a lot of credit.
- [33:50]
Caller
Oh, for sure. I just wanted to say, and this team has been cursed ever since Annabelle came into Lexington.
- [33:56]
Matt Jones
Well, that had nothing.
- [33:57]
Caller
It has not been the same.
- [33:58]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that had nothing. That was not.
- [34:00]
Caller
These injuries are gonna kill us.
- [34:02]
Matt Jones
People write me that every game, and they act like me downplaying Annabelle had something to do with it.
- [34:08]
Caller
Although I will say a better priest or something. The Blessed Lexon.
- [34:11]
Matt Jones
I don't know. Yeah, maybe I need to, you know, maybe I need to repent. I'll tell you what. If they get Dink, I will. I appreciate the call, by the way. Apparently, see, I'm learning more facts. Dink is very good friends with Jasper Johnson.
- [34:27]
Billy Reed
That's what we need.
- [34:28]
Matt Jones
So he could help bring him in for the chemistry part. Right? He's. They've got a friend together.
- [34:34]
Billy Reed
He's got a friend.
- [34:36]
Matt Jones
Yeah. And I'm already.
- [34:39]
Billy Reed
You're all in on the Dink.
- [34:41]
Matt Jones
I'm already in. I am. I mean, the only thing I'm more in on than this is watching these weathermen the next 48 hours. I'm gonna give you a hand of what I'm gonna do tomorrow, Billy. This little preview, okay? And you cannot say this on the pre show, okay?
- [34:56]
Billy Reed
Okay.
- [34:57]
Matt Jones
Because. Because. Because Ryan's not listening right now, so he'll find out live on the show. I am going to ask all these. I'm gonna ask all these weather people to give a prediction of the total snow in Lexington. And whoever's the closest, I'll donate money to the charity of their choice.
- [35:19]
Billy Reed
Oh, okay. I like that.
- [35:21]
Matt Jones
Do you like that? But it'll make these weathermen go on record. Okay. Like, they have to predict an amount, and we'll see who's. Who's got the juice.
- [35:31]
Billy Reed
You think they're going to do that and set themselves up?
- [35:34]
Matt Jones
Well, I want to see. It's for a good cause, right?
- [35:39]
Billy Reed
Yeah.
- [35:39]
Matt Jones
I'll donate money to their charity from me, in their name. But they take a prediction of what the total snow output will be at Bluegrass Airport for the storm.
- [35:53]
Billy Reed
Well, you've been funny online the last day or so. You just stir in the pot trying to get.
- [35:57]
Matt Jones
Do you not think that's a good idea?
- [35:58]
Billy Reed
I think it's a great idea.
- [35:59]
Matt Jones
And it goes to. It. It'll go to a nice cause. Maybe we'll even get other people to donate. But then they actually have to take a stand. Right.
- [36:08]
Billy Reed
All these slippery weathermen.
- [36:11]
Matt Jones
Now, if they. And if they refuse, then that tells you something, too, Billy.
- [36:16]
Billy Reed
That's right. Not confident in their models.
- [36:18]
Matt Jones
That's exactly right. They can talk trash about other people's models, but they don't believe their own models. We'll take a break and be right back. It's a local toy dealers KSR Post game show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR Post game show. I have some news. You know our friends at Commonwealth Causes.
- [36:40]
Billy Reed
Yes.
- [36:41]
Matt Jones
You know, they've been with us for many years. They. They do the bourbon, raffles. They do a lot of good work in the state. They used to be involved with the. With the nil, and now they do other things for charity. They are offering to donate $5,000 challenge.
- [37:00]
Billy Reed
Right on. That's. That's awesome.
- [37:03]
Matt Jones
So now they have to do it, right?
- [37:05]
Billy Reed
Well, yeah, it's for charity.
- [37:07]
Matt Jones
Throwing that 5,000 with. I was.
- [37:09]
Billy Reed
How much were you going to donate?
- [37:10]
Matt Jones
I wasn't going to do five.
- [37:12]
Billy Reed
500?
- [37:13]
Matt Jones
No, no. I was going to do like, maybe one or two, but if they're being generous and do five, I'll do two. So now we're up to seven. All right, so that's $7,000. They got to give a prediction, don't they?
- [37:24]
Billy Reed
That gets their attention.
- [37:26]
Matt Jones
They have to.
- [37:28]
Billy Reed
And the publicity of the radio.
- [37:30]
Matt Jones
Yeah, because, I mean, there's a little bit of public shaming if they don't. Yeah, but I just think it'd be fun it's fun, right? It's fun.
- [37:40]
Billy Reed
It is. But their reputations on the line.
- [37:42]
Matt Jones
But they'll have to get it on. They'll have to. I understand. But they'll have to get it in by say, you know, Friday afternoon. Because it's supposed to start after that, right?
- [37:50]
Billy Reed
Yeah.
- [37:50]
Matt Jones
Because anybody can say after it happened.
- [37:53]
Billy Reed
Yeah, we got to have a deadline.
- [37:54]
Matt Jones
They got to have it like, say Friday at like 5.
- [37:57]
Billy Reed
Then ask him if Dink's going to join the Kentucky roster.
- [38:00]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I just tweeted out a. A tweet of a gif of Dink when he was. Did you see it? Look. Look on Twitter. Look at my. This is what Dink looked like when he. When he wrestled. This is not me saying, by the way, he's coming. It was just me showing.
- [38:16]
Billy Reed
Oh, there he is.
- [38:17]
Matt Jones
That's what he looked like.
- [38:19]
Billy Reed
And everybody's like, what does this mean, Matt?
- [38:21]
Matt Jones
Yes. It doesn't mean anything. It's just. I was just showing. Putting it out there. Okay, who's next?
- [38:25]
Billy Reed
Tim is next.
- [38:26]
Matt Jones
Tim, Go ahead, Tim.
- [38:29]
Caller
Hey, man, how's it going?
- [38:30]
Matt Jones
Good, how are you?
- [38:33]
Caller
I'm just hanging in there. Listen, Billy, first of all, you need to wake up. You know, you sound like you're asleep. You don't want to be there on these post game shows.
- [38:45]
Billy Reed
Just get to the call, Tim. I don't need you to lecture me about my energy. You just get to. So we can hang up.
- [38:52]
Caller
Listen, don't hang up on me yet.
- [38:55]
Matt Jones
Sometimes people need constructive criticism. Go ahead.
- [38:59]
Caller
I'm. I'm 71 years old now, Billy. I'm in Odom county and I run the transportation department. At one time, did you ever ride a bus out of Odom County?
- [39:08]
Billy Reed
I did, yeah. Wrote a bus to South.
- [39:10]
Caller
Okay. Okay. And I probably had some, you know, some bad memories that Be riding the bus for sure. Anyway.
- [39:21]
Billy Reed
Are we gonna get to the call or what? We're just gonna talk about Oldham County.
- [39:25]
Caller
Yeah, I know. Listen, I'm. I'm really. I was born in Paintsville but grew up.
- [39:31]
Matt Jones
All right, go ahead now. Enough, Enough. Lead in. Go ahead.
- [39:34]
Caller
Enough. Lead in. Listen, hey, let's go with four. We won four straight. Let's go for five. But I wanted to pitch myself as the greatest basketball. Kentucky basketball fan.
- [39:49]
Matt Jones
I appreciate it. We're not doing. I said on the show today, I'm not doing pitches for Greatest Call. We're gonna maybe have an event later in the year. We're Greatest fan later in the year, but we're not. We're not calling in weather. Now, Kentucky, the Twitter account, which apparently I didn't know was a thing, that's one of the sort of Ryan Hall y' all like imitators, right? They say that the new GFS model slams Kentucky, makes it the center piece of the entire storm. Oh, yeah. Some of these. I mean, some of these. It's crazy.
- [40:24]
Billy Reed
They're gonna.
- [40:24]
Matt Jones
Even Bill Mack. Even Bill Mack acknowledged today that he thought it was gonna be bad, and he was.
- [40:30]
Billy Reed
They canceled the game.
- [40:31]
Matt Jones
I don't think so. Because as long as the TV can't. Cameras are there, I think they'll do it. Plus, I think their snow is supposed to start around the game, right? So I think they'll play the game. I don't remember Kentucky game ever being stopped for snow. Oh, maybe older folks can remember. I remember Kentucky playing in the SEC tournament once. It Rupp in a just horrendous snowstorm, I believe in 1994. Somebody can check me on that. I think it was in 1994 they played in Rupp. We played against LSU and Geert Hammock. But I don't remember game ever being canceled for snow. Who's next?
- [41:12]
Billy Reed
Leslie is next.
- [41:13]
Matt Jones
Leslie. Go ahead, Leslie.
- [41:16]
Caller
Hey, Matt and Billy, how y' all doing?
- [41:18]
Matt Jones
What's going on?
- [41:19]
Caller
Okay, so I know y' all play golf, right? And surely you all have a good dink shot, right? You know what a dink shot is, right?
- [41:27]
Matt Jones
Well, I use that in tennis. That's what we would call like.
- [41:30]
Caller
Okay, yeah.
- [41:32]
Matt Jones
So like they're little. Well, in tennis, like, you know, you do ground strokes. I was a serving volley, so my ground strokes were not great. So sometimes just to keep points going until I could get to the net, I would just dink it across. Right? And that's what we would call just kind of almost doing a slice forehand. I would call it a dink.
- [41:50]
Caller
Okay. Okay. Well, one thing I was going to say is if we get Dink and he can dunk, then we're good. And he could also sign a deal with Dunkin Donuts and he could be the Dunkin Dink. And then there's also that song called Skinner. Skinnamarinky Dinky dink Skinnamarinky do. So there you go. So I think we need to sign him. He has lots of possibilities.
- [42:12]
Matt Jones
You already got his nil possibilities. I appreciate that's right. He's. If nothing else, Billy, he's a legend of this post game show. I'll remember him forever. Even if he ends up not even.
- [42:24]
Billy Reed
Being follow his NBA.
- [42:25]
Matt Jones
But it is weird to me. There's. There were reports today that says Kentucky talked with him today, but Pope's comments in the post game, at least the video I see. They don't seem to make sense though. Why would you say that? If you talk to him today, Maybe that's. I mean, I guess or could be wrong. I don't know. But I mean, I wouldn't think it's wrong. Just seems sort of. Sort of.
- [42:53]
Billy Reed
Well, Mark will probably play it safe, right?
- [42:56]
Matt Jones
Yeah. By the way, did you see the. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about, but did you see Fernando Mendoza, you know, won the national championship, gonna be the number one pick in the draft. He was asked if he had a girlfriend. Did you see his answer?
- [43:09]
Billy Reed
No. What do you say?
- [43:10]
Matt Jones
He said, I do not have time for girlfriends. Girls are distraction, good distracting. If I have one. I'd be spending my time time hanging out with her instead of watching the extra film. I need.
- [43:22]
Billy Reed
I mean, probably some truth in that.
- [43:24]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, that's partially why I'm probably not married while I'm doing this show.
- [43:30]
Billy Reed
You were grinding so hard in the extra time.
- [43:32]
Matt Jones
Blogging and focused. Who's next?
- [43:35]
Billy Reed
Well, what's next is the Johnny Rocker, personal injury attorney, moneymaker of the game. Matt, let's bring some energy to this injured. Get small town compassion with big city results. When you call The Rocker at 270-321-4429. And while I'd love to give it to Colin Chandler for his flu game, today we are giving it to Denzel Aberdeen, 19 points, was 9 to 12 from the free throw line in 32 minutes. He only had two turnovers and this award is just not for this game. Matt, he has played great over the last three and that's why Denzel Aberdeen is our Johnny Rocker personal injury attorney, moneymaker of the game.
- [44:08]
Matt Jones
He has been excellent. He's been excellent and I think he's been. I give him a lot of credit. When Jalen Lowe went down, if you had told me he would have been able to. To do what he's done, I would not have believed. I mean, he has played really, really well. He's going to make mistakes. He turns the ball over some. I think he. I think he holds it too much sometimes. But he's in the second half of these games. He's been excellent. He shot the ball well. So Denzel Aberdeen has really stepped up and we, we would be in a way different spot if it. If it weren't for him. He really has been Been excellent. Who's up next?
- [44:44]
Billy Reed
Luke.
- [44:45]
Matt Jones
Luke. Go ahead, Luke.
- [44:48]
Caller
Hey, Matt. Just wanted to say I was at the game tonight with my fiance, and Malachi Moreno was a presence on the front line with six blocks tonight. Think he deserves a shout out to. Excellent. Excellent. You know who Denzel Everdeen kind of reminds me of a little bit. He reminds me of Drew Holiday a little bit. If you remember him in his prime, it kind of. Yeah, it's a similarity.
- [45:14]
Matt Jones
I mean, he's definitely a lower budget version of Drew Holiday, but, yes, I. I can kind of see where you're.
- [45:20]
Caller
Coming from version of it. Yes, yes. And it just seems like Pope was never rattled. I was in the lower level, so I got a pretty good view of him. I mean, he's obviously huge, so, you know, you can have a great view of him in the upper level anyways. But he seemed calm the whole time, like he knew that they were going to win. Like, he's very, very confident. And Colin Chandler was very, very, very confident in that second half. He had a step back three. He grabbed the offensive rebound. I think he stepped back three with the defender right in his face. A bigger defender shot it right over him, and I was like, wow, that if he plays with confidence like that, he can be really, really, really good because he's very talented, I think. And I think he plays hard. I think it's just a confidence thing with him, and to see him play with confidence was great tonight. Billy, don't listen to the haters either. You have worked how many hours today? Yeah, you. You. You're working your butt off, man. You're answering the phone.
- [46:19]
Matt Jones
He puts in big hours, and he's. And he also. You don't know. He also produced a podcast for me today which. Where I interviewed a woman. Cat. Cat Rosenfield. And that'll come out tomorrow. So he's been. He's been doing great. Kentucky had a starting quarterback in 1972, Billy, named Dinky McKay.
- [46:39]
Billy Reed
It's meant to be then. Matt, stars are aligning here.
- [46:42]
Matt Jones
I've never heard that name before.
- [46:44]
Billy Reed
What was his name? Dinky McKay.
- [46:46]
Matt Jones
Dinky McKay. Never heard that name once. I. That again. Someone might be making that up, because that doesn't sound real.
- [46:54]
Caller
Real.
- [46:56]
Matt Jones
Somebody listens. Got to tell me if that's true, because that sounds like that wouldn't be real. I'm also reminded.
- [47:02]
Billy Reed
Dinky McKay. So it was a nickname and he.
- [47:05]
Matt Jones
Played here in 1972.
- [47:07]
Billy Reed
Yes. I'm looking at 1971. 72. Yeah.
- [47:10]
Matt Jones
Wow. James Dinky McKay. I bet he didn't expect to get a shout out on the postgame show. Also, folks reminded me doink the clowns finishing move. Do you want to know what it was called?
- [47:21]
Billy Reed
I'm a little worried to ask, but.
- [47:23]
Matt Jones
Yeah, the whoopee cushion.
- [47:26]
Billy Reed
Did he bring out a whoopee cushion or was this.
- [47:28]
Matt Jones
No, it was just. It was just a. It was a whoopee cushion. 859280, 2287. Let's take a break and we'll be right back for the final segments. The local toy dealers KSR Postgame Show. Welcome back. It is the local toy dealers KSR post game show. The SEC Jeff Drummond lets me know the SEC tournament was 1993. I was right that it was against LSU and Geert Hammock. But there was a foot of snow in Lexington for that SEC tournament. People had to walk to the games. I remember watching it on television while being. While being sort of trapped. Barberville High School, or as we say in the mountains, Barville. Barville had a basketball coach whose name was Dinky Phipps. He also probably didn't know he was going to get a shout out.
- [48:19]
Billy Reed
More dinks and dinkies than we thought.
- [48:22]
Matt Jones
Dinky in 1972. McKay, that. That was the quarterback for UK. He led the team in total offense. He had 879 passing yards and 94 rushing yards.
- [48:34]
Billy Reed
Impressive little dink and dunk game.
- [48:36]
Matt Jones
One thing I wanted to note about the. About tonight in general, I'm very positive about tonight. Here's a little negativity. Malachi Moreno was plus 17. Andre Yellow Vic was plus 16. Diabate and Garrison were both minus 9. We just take a drop off with those guys, which is hard to understand since they've been on the team longer and since they are more expensive. Well, I mean, they've been in the. In college basketball longer in Diabate's case. But there's a big drop off when we switch the. When we switch the bigs. And that's gotta, that's gotta stop because we, you know, with Diabate, for instance, you need to play because you need to be able to play him some because of his defense and rebounding. But you can't have that big a drop off, Billy, in your backup bigs.
- [49:28]
Billy Reed
You're right. I'm glad to see Diabate kind of getting on the right track after he was yelling at everybody. But I mean, I am so impressed with Moreno. Like so happy.
- [49:36]
Matt Jones
He's been great. Yeah. 93 sec tournament. We beat Tennessee 101 to 40. That was when Alan Houston played for Tennessee. He had three points and Todd Sabota, our walk on, had four points. That's what most people remember about that game. Who's next?
- [49:53]
Billy Reed
Dave.
- [49:54]
Matt Jones
Dave. Go ahead, Dave.
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Caller
Matt, thanks for taking my call, buddy. It's a cold night here in Lexington. I'm sitting here thinking about. I had a Nintendo game that had had Doink the Clown on it and it was his finishing move. With a little shock, he pulled his hand out and shocked you with it. So it's doing the Clown. I remember that very well. I'm old enough to know about all that stuff. Real funny enough. And it still works, actually. I still pull it out once a month and use the old shocker on him.
- [50:23]
Matt Jones
I'm glad to hear it.
- [50:24]
Caller
True, true. And here's one more thing too, before I hang up. You got a really good staff out there. Drew Franklin, he's a good dude. I'm. I have a brain cancer and he, every time he sees me, comes up, talks to me. So I just want you to know you got great staff and thank you very much. And I'll hang out and listen.
- [50:41]
Matt Jones
Hey, God bless you, sir. Thank you for listening and I appreciate you.
- [50:47]
Caller
Yes, good night.
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Billy Reed
Thank you, Dave.
- [50:50]
Matt Jones
Good night, sir. 859280, 2287. Who's up next?
- [50:56]
Billy Reed
Bob and Jamestown.
- [51:00]
Caller
That's a great game, guys. I'll tell you what, Chandler, I mean, he is really stepping up 18 points. I got a little nervous there at the end, though. We had like a little slip. I mean, I. You know when UK beats Tennessee with 1.6 seconds. And then here we are down.
- [51:20]
Matt Jones
Were you nice to Mario this weekend?
- [51:24]
Caller
Oh, yeah. Hey, tell him I've got three ticket reservations and this is going to be a great event. So we're the Capital Arts center or over there in Bowling Green. That's in the next 10 days. Malcolm X's daughter's doing a free public lecture. She's giving away 200 free books to the first 200 people to get in there.
- [51:46]
Matt Jones
Malcolm X.
- [51:49]
Caller
Yes, yes.
- [51:50]
Matt Jones
What is she talking about?
- [51:52]
Caller
The Warren County Love Library. Public library. It's at that South Sky Cast over there.
- [51:59]
Matt Jones
Really nice, Bob. What is she going to talk about?
- [52:03]
Caller
Well, she's an author. She's written three books, produced documentaries about her dad. I mean, she's a heavy person.
- [52:13]
Matt Jones
That's a very different thing than going to hear about aliens.
- [52:18]
Caller
Well, I mean, I can say it's. I got a wild taste and like event history.
- [52:26]
Matt Jones
I can see that. All right, well, thank you.
- [52:28]
Caller
Well, tell him I've Got three. I've got three reservations.
- [52:32]
Matt Jones
All right, so who's up next?
- [52:35]
Billy Reed
What an emotional roller coaster that was. Tori is up next.
- [52:39]
Matt Jones
Tori, go ahead, Tori.
- [52:43]
Caller
Matt, I'm on the Internet a lot and I. I've never seen anything that. Where does Bob go to find this stuff?
- [52:51]
Matt Jones
That's a really great question. I don't know where he finds these events. What forum is it where you find out about aliens at a church in Ohio and Malcolm X's daughter in Warren County? I might actually go see Malcolm X's daughter in the right circumstance, but I'd be odd to be able to find out both.
- [53:11]
Caller
You could give me infinite guesses on who he was going to say, and I would have never landed on Malcolm X's daughter.
- [53:17]
Matt Jones
That's exactly right. You're right.
- [53:20]
Caller
But anyways, have you seen Chris Bailey's most recent tweet?
- [53:23]
Matt Jones
No. What did he say?
- [53:26]
Caller
So, and I'm quoting here, he said the new GFS period, Mercy period, and then an American flag emoji. I didn't go to weather school. No clue what that signifies, but it can't be good.
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Matt Jones
American flag comes out. So it's. Yeah, Well, I mean, I think this is going to be a big one. I'm told that the last time UK had a game canceled due to snow, this comes from Big Blue history. Our guy. Well, I'm glad. John Scott. Big Blue history is January 28, 1978. Kentucky vs Tennessee was canceled due to snow and it was played a month later. So it's the year of my birth. Is the last time, sir, that we. That we canceled a game because of snow.
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Caller
Yeah. And I do have a basketball thing, so.
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Matt Jones
All right, go for it, folks.
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Caller
There's a huge sect of our fan that's like, we don't have to do this. We're Kentucky. And the downside is like, we have to do this. Like, we have to get G league players. If you can get G league players. Because if we don't, someone else will and then that player will come into Lexington and beat us. This. This is Kentucky. That's. It's not dead, but it's. It doesn't really amount to a whole lot anymore because these players are making decisions with agents and a bunch of people. It's no longer come here. This is a great place. It's. You got to have the stuff. And if we're not going after every avenue we can, we got to move.
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Matt Jones
I totally agree with you. And I think part of what I would. The only way I would modify that, it's not that Kentucky doesn't matter, but where it matters is it's now part of a puzzle. But the other parts have to be there too, right? And so, yes, I think Kentucky matters when you have a great coach, when the money is equal, all these things. But if you don't do the other things, Kentucky's not going to get you over the top anymore. You know what I mean? So if these guys are. I am fine believing that these dudes shouldn't be players in college basketball. That's a perfectly reasonable opinion. I might disagree, but it's reasonable. But if they are, then what are you doing? It's like you remember, sir, a few years, like in the 80s when every other team in the world played pros on the Olympics, but we still didn't. You remember that? And we lost. You may be too young, but not brother. I was born in 91.
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Caller
I have no idea what you.
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Matt Jones
Okay, well. Well, I'll give you appreciate the call. I understand in 1988 and maybe 84, but certainly 80. I think 88. The rule was you could only. The. The Olympics changed the rule to where pros were eligible to play in the Olympics. And for some reason, the United States decided, well, you know what? We're still only going to have college guys. And we lost. We lost. I think badly. I don't even. I don't even know if we meddled. And then in 92, they were like, you know what? Let's put pros in. And of course we won. It was the dream team. It's one of the most historic things ever. But in 1990, 1988, when we refused to play, all we did was hurt ourselves. And at the time, the argument was, we're standing up for this principle of amateurism. Well, who even talks about that? Who even knows that the Olympics were used to be amateur? Billy, did you know that, that it used to only be amateurs in the Olympics?
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Billy Reed
The only frame of reference I had is the. The miracle on ice when the college kids.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. But that used to be considered a sacred principle. The Olympics were for amateurs. Now no one even talks about that. That that's gonna help be how it is in college basketball too. So let's say we stand up for the purity of a Kentucky in two years, when everybody is doing this and it's legal, what did you stand up for? Right? You didn't stand up for anything except losing. So if we can do it and the kids interested and Pope thinks he could help, he could help. I would Say you do it. Let's do three more and we'll call it a night. Who's next?
- [57:32]
Billy Reed
Mitch is up.
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Matt Jones
Mitch, Go ahead, Mitch.
- [57:35]
Caller
All right. First, Billy, you're down. Tired people quit. They be in the building. That's just terrible. Second, anyone whose last name is Pate, my best friend in the world, Ray paid who's gone now was a Churchill down for years. We need that guy because every paid I've ever meet met is going to be amazing. So I'm. I'm all in on pace and I'm telling you, Ray was the best man ever. Third, I've worked at Microsoft for a long time. We have one rule other than destroy our competition terribly and mean is that if you don't know the rules, you can't play the game. And the rules right now are non existent. So we need to start playing with whatever's on the table. We need to get whoever we need to, we need to spend whatever we need to, we need to do whatever we need to until it's not what we need to do. And that's all I gotta say.
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Matt Jones
Appreciate the call. Totally agree. I remember one of the only times Billy I ever took up for Donald Trump was during the Mitt Romney. Actually it was Mitt Romney first when people were like well he didn't pay this and this on his taxes. And I said the fact that Mitt Romney pays zero in taxes is wrong. But if he is eligible to play zero in taxes, you can't get mad at him for paying zero in tax. Right. You change the laws to where he's not eligible to do that. But if the law says that it's the law's fault, it's not his fault. Same with this. It's not Kentucky's fault if this dude can play. It's the rules. But you get it. Now I would also argue as remember what I said about the Baylor kid? Remember I said everybody's getting mad for nothing. Mm, he's not good. Baylor's lost like every game since he got there. I think they're one in five since he got on the team. So there's also a part of this. If these kids were like amazingly good, they'd probably already be in the league, right?
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Billy Reed
They would assigned a two way or.
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Matt Jones
Yes. I think that the one thing that makes the dink guy interesting to me is that he's a guard and he's only 19 and according to the reports he himself was the one who decided not to sign the that makes him a little bit different to me. But in general, there are guys playing college basketball right now that if they were eligible to play in the NBA, would be in the NBA, correct?
- [60:01]
Billy Reed
Yes.
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Matt Jones
A.J. deBonsa, Darren Peterson, all those guys would be in the NBA and playing minutes right now. So if a dude is in the G League and not getting in the NBA, then I'm not going to think he's going to dominate college basketball because he'd already be in the NBA. Two more. Who's next?
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Billy Reed
Brad.
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Matt Jones
Brad. Go ahead, Brad.
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Caller
Hey, I just wanted to say prayers up to Cam Williams. I know it's a devastating injury, but I just want to know, do y' all think this would change Mark Pope's stance on as far as Jaden Quaintance, if he would try and rush him back more if he had plans to sit him?
- [60:36]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think the Jaden Quaint's decision will be Jaden Quaintances, I think. I don't think there's any holding him back from Mark Pope. Jaden Quaint is going to decide whether he plays. And let me say, whatever he decides, I'm not going to get mad at him because he's got to do what he has to do. But I think it's fair to say Mark Pope probably did not think he was going to only play three games when he. When he brought him here, so. But, yeah, I don't think him not playing. I think what Mark Pope will do, because he's a really good guy, is he will say we decided. I think the reality of the situation is Jaden will decide.
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Caller
That's fair. That's fair. Well, hey, I'm. I'm up here in North Texas, and I'm be heading that way to Kentucky in a little bit. But prayers up to y' all as they're dealing with the storm.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, well, you be careful if you're driving from North Texas to Kentucky, you may hit the storm.
- [61:37]
Caller
Yeah, it's true.
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Matt Jones
Be careful. Appreciate the call. I mean, I think you are just as in the way the storm as anybody else, because I think it's coming from North Texas up here to Kentucky. Although I don't think it's supposed to be bad snow till it gets up here. So one more. Who's next?
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Billy Reed
Marty.
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Matt Jones
Marty. Go ahead, Marty.
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Caller
Hey, a couple things real quick. One, tonight, the weather's getting me thinking about around 1982. Three. That time period, UK played in champagne against Illinois, and the referees could not make it to the game.
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Matt Jones
They got people out of the crowd, right? Yes, I've heard that story. I love that story. They played and they just got. There were three high school reps that just were in the stands, right?
- [62:24]
Caller
Yes, exactly. Yeah. Remember that other thing you start making me think about Chris Kirk Crease, one of my favorite players last year. What ran him off from uk? Was it playing time?
- [62:36]
Matt Jones
I think playing time. I mean, I think the, you know, they had a lineup that they felt was already loaded. They decided they needed to get a point guard to start. So Chris knew he would have to be the backup. And I think there was also, you know, like, a lot of the. A lot of the answers to a lot of these questions going forward is how much was that other school willing to give you versus what this one was? Right. Because I think Mark Pope really liked Curse Creaser. But, you know, it's one of these things, like the difference between getting $300,000 and $200,000 doesn't sound like. Like a lot unless you're the one getting $300,000, you know.
- [63:23]
Caller
Right.
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Matt Jones
Then it may be a lot. And I. And so I think that was probably the. The reason.
- [63:30]
Caller
Well, the one thing I keep thinking is, you know, from now on, starting next year, we have to have two good point guards. You have. You just cannot rely. I mean, who would think that, you know, we have a point guard who's almost exact same surgery as Butler surgery.
- [63:46]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I think that if there's any lesson that comes from this year more than any other, the two lessons that I hope Mark Pope takes. Lesson one, you got to get shooters. Have to, have to, have to. If you're going to coach like he coaches, you got to have guys who can shoot the ball. And second, you got to have two point guards. Completely agree with you. Appreciate the call. I think there's. You just can't get away. And I know that's hard because point guard is the one position where only one guy can start. I mean, Cal used to sometimes try to play two point guards, but it's rare a point guard wants to start. And so it is probably hard to recruit two really good point guards because only one of them can start. But. But you have to find a way to do it because we've now lost our starter two years in a row. And it's just hard because that makes everything else more difficult. All right, folks, fun post game show. We get a big time victory. We have. We're on the precipice. Precipice of a historic storm. We have two days to decide if we want to enroll a G leaguer or pull a red shirt. Billy A lot of news over the next 48 hours, right?
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Billy Reed
Yeah. And I'm kind of with you. I'll never forget Dink Pate from tonight's postgame show.
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Matt Jones
You know what? Even if he never plays here, even if he never is brought up again, I will always root for the best. And what I like to think sometimes is about like Dink Pay sitting in. Did they say he was in Mexico right now?
- [65:14]
Billy Reed
He's been playing in Mexico City. I don't know where he's at.
- [65:17]
Matt Jones
I thought he played for the Westchester Knicks.
- [65:19]
Billy Reed
He did at one point. That was one year G League.
- [65:22]
Matt Jones
Oh, so now he plays for Mexico City. Yeah. So it's kind of interesting. He is just sitting in Mexico City, probably hanging out, doing whatever he does in Mexico City, having no idea that in a state far away, everyone's talking about him. As one of my family members used to say, ain't life strange. Thank you all very much for listening. We will see you again in the morning. Cats win 85 80. This has been the local Toyota dealers KSR post game show.