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Drew Franklin
Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. We are five of the six games into the NFL Wild Card Playoffs and Cover Zero is here. I was talking to Matt Jones, Drew Franklin. I was talking with the guys at the NFL. I say the guys, you know, like Roger and those guys and I was talking about this podcast and they said we love that. You guys just start. Yeah, like there's no intro right to the point. You just go all right, well it's weeks and I didn't realize I did that. Now I'm self conscious about It.
Matt Jones
That was one of the first things they mentioned and they're like.
Drew Franklin
They said they liked it.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
That we did it that way.
Matt Jones
I didn't expect that to be the feedback. I feel like these are pretty normal intros.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And also you wonder though, is that something you say when you don't know what else to say to people or.
Matt Jones
They'Re only listening the first two minutes.
Drew Franklin
Do an episode this week. Okay. All right, we're good. Maybe we could just read Gone with the wind for 30 minutes in the middle and they wouldn't. They would know. But for four of the five games so far in the wild card playoff, as exciting around of exciting four games as you could have. And then just finished with the Patriots and Chargers. But for the first four, we'll throw the Patriots and Chargers to the end. How awesome were these games?
Matt Jones
It's been a been a great weekend. We knew this field would be wide open without the. The usual names we see in the mix. And then even with big point spreads like our first game on Saturday, still coming down to the wire, the first four games of the weekend, the team leading with two minutes left ended up losing. I mean it just shows you the comebacks that didn't make that connection at the two minute warning. The first four games they ended up losing the game and all of them. So it just shows you how the chaotic finishes we got in every game up until the snoozer we just got to Inside The NFL has been on.
Drew Franklin
Kind of an historic run just in terms of having it probably coincides directly with the start of this podcast. I mean like all these primetime games this year have been ridiculous. I mean we've talked about two or three of the craziest games I've ever seen. And then, I mean we might as well go right into it to my Chicago Bears. The first playoff win in 13 years and. And the third game of this Packers Bears trilogy. All of which have been insanely good games. This one, however, as a Bears fan, it's the best win since the super bowl in terms of excitement when you consider the opponent, the comeback, the plays made. I mean Drew, I can't think of a time that I was more like into. It's been. I mean I was a little kid for the Super Bowl. I was pacing up and down. I threw something at one point. You know, we were connected for my UK basketball post game show and I was embarrassed for the sounds I was making because I knew Billy could hear it through the thing.
Billy
I actually recorded the sound that you made when The Bears won on the final play.
Drew Franklin
No, you did.
Billy
I did. You want me to pull that up?
Drew Franklin
You did.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We need to hear this.
Drew Franklin
You don't have.
Matt Jones
I was in Florida. I didn't get to hear this.
Drew Franklin
You did not record. Stop it now. You're all right.
Billy
Here we go.
Drew Franklin
Come on. All right. That. You're playing this right now? Yeah.
Billy
I'm going to plan it here. Now. Recording your access.
Matt Jones
Nice.
Drew Franklin
That's good. I was by myself. That was me. I like you. Got it. That was the. That was the last play. What. What an amazing comeback and win.
Matt Jones
Happy for you. I mean, everyone in the NFL were treated to a great game, but for Bears fans, I mean, I'm seeing your excitement now. And a day later, that atmosphere on Soldier Field.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, that looked awesome.
Matt Jones
It looked on my couch thinking, I would give any. I don't even care about these two. I would give anything to be in Chicago. Everyone there was just out of their seats. Seemed the whole game and having a blast. Nervous in the beginning, but Bears fans wanted that game.
Drew Franklin
So I don't know how, if you're a Bears owner or a Bears management, how you can see that atmosphere and think you need a dome. Right? Like it. Like, part of what makes that atmosphere is it's cold.
Matt Jones
They know how to dress. They already own the gloves. They know how to do it.
Drew Franklin
Part of what makes it great, it's night, it's cold. Everybody's, like, in this thing together. And then, of course, it's the Packers. And there's so many things to talk about from the game. I'm going to give you, like, the four things that are most interesting to me. First of all, I think you have to say Caleb Williams, the throw on fourth and eight, where I don't think either one of his feet were on the ground when he threw it. Is that one of the best throws you've ever seen?
Cam Jordan
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, I think the announcer even said this. I'm still on his point, because I thought the same thing. He couldn't have walked out there and put the ball in a better place, handed it to the receiver, three guys encircling him.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Incredible throwing in that moment. And Caleb, not just that throw, even when they were just slowly building the comeback and you could see the belief, he kind of had a calm composure. There was a moment where he yelled at his teammates, where he had showed some fire.
Drew Franklin
He did.
Matt Jones
But that was a guy that didn't look rattled on that stage, even down the way they were.
Drew Franklin
It's interesting when you look at his stat. I did not know until I listened the game that he has the lowest completion percentage of any quarterback in the NFL. But he also has the fewest interceptions, which means he kind of knows, like, just how to throw incomplete passes.
Matt Jones
Throwing it away from the defense.
Drew Franklin
No, but that's right, like he, He. He avoids the big mistake and then he makes those massive plays. He was unbelievable. And, you know, I mean, for all the sort of people saying, well, he's kind of. He's a little weird and he's a little. He's a little quirky and all that, the teammate team still really rallies around him. And those plays, I mean, were unbelievable. Then second, the comeback and how poorly the packers manage the second half of the game. Seven points in missed kicks. And then Matt LaFleur, what is he doing with the clock?
Matt Jones
How do you get a delay of game out of a timeout?
Drew Franklin
I mean, yeah, a delay of game on second down, throwing it when you need to run clock, which then leads you to have to throw it on third down when it's incomplete again. So you give the Bears all that time. They didn't end up needing it. But you didn't know that the moment.
Matt Jones
He already had a little reputation for, you know, not knowing what to do with the clock. It goes back. Packers fans are even bringing it up where they were like down eight years ago and he kicked a field goal with like two minutes left. Like, what are you doing on 10 yard line? You know, that was in the past, but, you know, they were already on edge about him anyway in big moments. And he dropped the ball big time.
Drew Franklin
He had some clock issues in the game that the Bears came back A few weeks ago, he had the same thing. Now the kicker, Brandon McManus, does he have to move?
Matt Jones
You got to move. No, he should have already moved. I mean, I would have walked out of Lambeau or, excuse me, out of Soldier Field. Would have gone on the Chicago flight or my team flight, packers flight.
Drew Franklin
Get.
Matt Jones
My team's confused here, McManus. I would have gone straight to an Uber and started a new life somewhere else and forgotten all about being a member of the Green Bay Packers.
Drew Franklin
It would haunt me a little bit if I were the packers of the little things that could have gone differently that would have just ended the game. First of all, go back to the field goal at the end of the first half. You know, people forget he missed that one. Right. Like, that was a. That wasn't a huge momentum thing, but it was a little bit of one. Obviously, the extra Point would have made him only need a field goal instead of a touchdown. But even there was the one play where it was on the fourth and eight before that throw, it was fourth and three and it was a. It was a false start. But the snap was over his head. So if they hadn't called the false start, the game would have probably been over. So the false start actually saved the Bears there. Like little things like that. If I were a Packers fan, Drew would absolutely haunt me.
Matt Jones
That and even on the final play of the game, you got one shot. They fumbled the snap and he's like picking that up and scrambling around.
Drew Franklin
I thought that was going to be like, what a way to lose.
Matt Jones
There was a moment where the moment.
Drew Franklin
Where.
Matt Jones
Just error after error, self inflicted stuff. I think the crowd played a big part, especially in that delay of game. But packers couldn't have dropped the ball any better. And for the Bears, my goodness, this. What is that, the seventh. I mean, I lost count how many comebacks this year. It's like just don't even play the first half if you're Chicago.
Drew Franklin
I saw a social media post that had like the scoreboard in time in like five different games this year and said the Bears won all of these games, you know, where they was like down 10 with two minutes to go, all this stuff. That Bengals game was one of them. Both packers games. It's really been a magical thing now. Which brings me to the third thing you mentioned. The crowd. The crowd was unbelievable. How did that guy get a cheese grater in?
Matt Jones
I actually have that in my notes. Right in front of you. I have a question. How were so many Bears fans 1.
Drew Franklin
1.
Matt Jones
It seemed like every time there was a crowd shot, not just the hats.
Drew Franklin
Actual bated cheese grater. So I understand that one, but they got metal cheese graders.
Matt Jones
I don't understand. And then variations of cheese. I saw a cheddar, I saw a parmesan.
Drew Franklin
So that means multiple people on their own decided, I'm going to take a block of cheese to this game. Multiple people did that, like just took big hunks of cheese I guess in their bag and were like, if I get a moment, pull the shredder out of my side. I'm going to pull the shredder out and I'm going to pull this cheese and I'm just going to grate everywhere.
Matt Jones
Do you know the story of the hats? I love it. The guy was making cheesehead hats for packers fans and he got a cease and desist letter from the packers to stop selling packers pro packers, cheesehead foam hats. So he's like, all right, I'll do cheese graters. And his sales have just been through the roof. So he just had this little bitty cheesehead company. He's told to stop selling them, and he flips on the packers and makes.
Drew Franklin
Them cheese graters, and he can't even.
Matt Jones
Keep up with the orders, and there's nobody to tell him to stop. I mean, that whole crowd seemed to have them on. The players have them on. I mean, that guy turned. Took a little packers cease and desist.
Drew Franklin
And turned it into America, baby. Right?
Matt Jones
That's right. It's a great idea, too.
Drew Franklin
That is. Right.
Matt Jones
About getting the blades in. I thought we had metal detectors at these events.
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean, they make me, like, I had to throw away a pair of fingernail clippers once at a Reds game. Now, you might ask, why were you taking fingernail clippers at a Reds game? You got to do something between the innings.
Matt Jones
I mean, take care of your nail.
Drew Franklin
But I had to, like, just hand it over and. But yet a big cheese grater. No problem.
Matt Jones
I think a guy had an electrical version, too. I saw one actually plugged in, and he was running it through, like, a big food processor cheese grater to just stunning development. They were able to get those into Soldier.
Drew Franklin
I don't think Billy or Mario would know this reference, but do you. Do you remember Abdullah the Butcher? Yeah.
Matt Jones
Wrestler.
Drew Franklin
The wrestler.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
You know, he. He had a forehead where he took a lot of cuts to the forehead. Like, so, you know, you're not really a wrestling person. But, like, when you. When somebody bleeds, oftentimes they just take a little tiny razor blade and they cut the area right under their hairline.
Billy
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Because you bleed more. Like right here. You bleed more than you bleed anywhere on your body.
Matt Jones
It doesn't do any damage, and it doesn't do anything.
Drew Franklin
But Abdul the Butcher did not have hair. So he had cut that so much that it was really gross because it had all these scars, and he was a big, fat guy, and so he had all this. So he had a really ugly top of his head. Well, towards the end of his career when he kind of, like, he didn't have a lot of moves left. He would just have the wrestler he was wrestling use a cheese grater on his head.
Billy
Oh, really?
Drew Franklin
Yes.
Julian Edelman
Wow.
Drew Franklin
This is. I mean, this is a family show so we could talk. But I just kept thinking when I saw the cheese grater. I haven't seen a cheese grater used in public like this since Abdul the Butcher.
Matt Jones
And it just shows how much this rivalry's flipped as you got the confidence to just start grating cheese in your section. Yeah, just cheese landing everywhere on the people in front of you. But Bears fans are so happy to be in this position. And I'm happy for you and all the people at Soldierville really was the best atmosphere of any we saw.
Drew Franklin
It's one of those games where you would say like if you're a Bears fan and you were there, that's when you would talk about like your whole life. Now the fourth thing is, is Ben Johnson, when he was hired as the Bears coach, he said in the press conference, I like beating Matt LaFleur. Didn't initially say Green Bay said Matt.
Matt Jones
LaFleur called him out by name, called.
Drew Franklin
Him by name, said, I like beating him twice every year because Detroit had beaten him twice, like three of the last four years. Now they do it again two out of three times this year. The blow by handshake was a blow by.
Matt Jones
Great blow by.
Drew Franklin
I mean one of the all time blow bys. And it looked like LaFleur wanted to have a moment and Ben Johnson was like, oh, no moments coming.
Matt Jones
I'm blowing. But he was even leaning the other direction before he stuck the handout. He had a foot out to the left to go the other way.
Drew Franklin
And then the locker room, he says, blank. The Packers. I bleep and hate the packers several times. Fair or foul?
Matt Jones
I'm going to say fair. He just won a big game against the Packers. They got your number. I mean, I wouldn't say it in the press conference or I wouldn't say it like an event with fans and kids around.
Drew Franklin
But at that moment you would say it to where the whole world says.
Matt Jones
It was a leaked video, right?
Drew Franklin
I think it was the Bears put it out.
Matt Jones
Being the Bears media team, I'm cool with it.
Drew Franklin
I'm cool with it. Yeah, I.
Matt Jones
Especially for a rivalry like that. And the Bears have had it so bad for so long. Let them have their fun.
Drew Franklin
I think what I like about it is in pro sports because guys switch teams so much, it doesn't feel like people hate each other in pro sports a lot. Like, think about it. When 20 years ago it felt like the Yankees and the Red Sox hate each other, but now they've had a bunch of guys play on both teams.
Matt Jones
Some legends have gone, have gone back and forth.
Drew Franklin
So like that's not really a thing anymore, you know, I mean we talk, we've talked a lot about the Ravens and Steelers. They seem to dislike each other. But then now they've had guys switch teams.
Matt Jones
Everybody's just jersey swapping.
Drew Franklin
I like that the Bears and the packers at least the coaches may legitimately hate each other. You see that in hockey. It'll happen in hockey. Like the LA Kings and the Edmonton Oilers really hate each other. And there are guys in hockey tend to stay on the same team longer. So it. But. But I like seeing that in the.
Matt Jones
NFL and I can't think many examples in pro sports. You know they'll I hate our rival but to just call the other coach by name. Just like I enjoy beating him specifically like I don't want them to ever fire him. I want to just continue to beat him.
Drew Franklin
Now at the moment of this taping, Matt Flora has not been fired yet. They said they're going to meet tomorrow. They can't bring him back though, can they? I mean like presumably they were going to bring him back even if he lost. But I think he lost in a way that almost makes you have to fire him. Right.
Matt Jones
And didn't they lose like the last five, I mean several games in the year?
Drew Franklin
Maybe five out of four to five years.
Matt Jones
I know the Micah Parsons injury hurts them. That was big for the defense. But yeah, I mean you can't to be a favorite like that not even win the division. And to go out the way they did to the Bears blowing a lead. I mean Jordan Love had three first half touchdowns. It was looking like it was going to be a blowout.
Drew Franklin
Yes.
Matt Jones
In that game. And they just completely folded by self inflicted wounds.
Drew Franklin
It was 27:16 with seven minutes to go. I mean you got to find a way to win that game, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think so. I mean they should have won the division then you go up into Soldier Field and go up that big. You had so many chances just to hang on and now you're already at home and he's. Like I said they've already been complaining about him a little bit anyway for some other mistakes in past playoff games. So it seems that spreading out of time there.
Drew Franklin
All right, so the Bears move on. Another crazy close win. They're going to play the Rams. We'll preview it later in the week. But do you believe the Bears are legit or are you just like they're a team of destiny.
Matt Jones
I lost all my bets this week. Multiple sports truly unbelievable from for my gambling account. But I was big time on the Bears. I really believe in them and you know even we're making plans about going to the Super Bowl. I'm like probably going to see your Bears there. I really think that they have the.
Drew Franklin
You think they got the mojo?
Matt Jones
I think they can do it.
Drew Franklin
I want it to be really cold when the Rams come, you know, because it's going to be in Chicago. Rams are indoor team la, so you want it to be really, really cold, really nasty. We're going to the Super Bowl. We found that out. We'll talk more about that probably later this week too. We're going to super bowl and we're supposed to leave right before the Super Bowl. Sorry.
Matt Jones
I like to watch from my couch anyway.
Drew Franklin
On the plane. But if the Bears make it, I'm going to stay. Even if I have to like sleep at the game. Because I mean you have to if, if they make it.
Matt Jones
The Titans were in position to go a few years ago and I was like, if they're in that game, whatever it costs, have to do it have.
Drew Franklin
To cost a lot.
Matt Jones
Ultimate bucket list. I was ready. I went to Kansas City. I was in Nashville when the Bengals came in and ripped our hearts out. But like when your team is in it, especially when your team is the.
Drew Franklin
Bears or the minute in 40 years.
Matt Jones
And you don't know if that time will ever come against Chicago looking like that. Could maybe have something here, but yes, you have to stick around if your team' in it.
Billy
I think our guy said the ticket was $12,000. Matt, would you, would you pay that to watch?
Drew Franklin
I mean, no, but I don't. I wouldn't pay $12,000 to go by myself.
Billy
Well, it's your team. So like when would this ever happen again?
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean it might happen next year, but I mean if I had like if you said to me you can get two tickets for 12,000, 50% off coupon. Yes.
Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
I feel like if you wait till.
Matt Jones
Kickoff you can get it for a little cheaper.
Drew Franklin
A little cheaper. But I would definitely, I would at least want to be in the atmosphere for, you know. You know, I saw those pictures from the bars in Chicago. Forget about the game, just the bars. They looked unbelievable. I mean it looks so much fun. I mean I. I'm genuinely thinking about if they make it the NFC Championship game, going and watching it in Chicago. Even if I don't go to the game just to be in something like that, I am genuinely thinking about doing that.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I know a lot of people have done that for other team. My brother in law is an Eagles fan. Instead of going to the super bowl last year, he went to Philly just To be a part of the mayhem. Because if you can't be in there in a seat. And maybe sometimes it's even better when you go to these cities and you're.
Drew Franklin
Part of the parade, the super bowl, it's. Well, I don't mean it's the NFL show. You want to go to the super bowl, of course, but it is a very. It can be a corporate crowd at those games, and especially when it's in San Francisco, a very, you know, Silicon Valley, very sort of. You know, you could make an argument Chicago might be even wilder than. Than the actual.
Matt Jones
And that's where most of the fans still are. And even though you travel, when we were at the Final Four, when Kentucky won the national championship, New Orleans wouldn't trade it for anything. Best sports moment of my life. But at the same time, there was.
Drew Franklin
We would see the videos in Lexington.
Matt Jones
But there's a part of me is like, I bet Lexington is so fun. Right? I wouldn't trade, but there was a part of me wondering what I was missing.
Drew Franklin
We were in a party city, too. I mean, like, so. So. Yeah. Well, it was a great win. I, you know, probably the. It is the franchise's best win since the Super Bowl. And then. And I think part of what you said, Drew, the promise of this might be the start of a long thing. I think that's part. And then what about Cole Loveland, the rookie tight end? They picked him over Tyler Warren. There's a video of the packers radio people doing the draft, mocking the Bears for picking this guy who then runs all over him.
Matt Jones
That was my touchdown pick. Can't go wrong with Warren or Loveland. They both had a great year, but he's been fantastic for the Bears. They got a lot of youth. That's why even with the head coach being first time, that's why it's. Whatever happens the rest this playoff run, there's still going to be a lot of excitement in Chicago moving forward.
Drew Franklin
They did lose their left. Left tackle, though, during that game, which I do think is going to be. Will have an impact on them in the next round. But if you're going to lose your left tackle, Caleb Williams can move, so that's good.
Matt Jones
I was also happy for DJ Moore. I saw he hasn't had a winning season since 2014 on any team he's been in.
Drew Franklin
Wow.
Matt Jones
Been over a decade of playing high ball and hadn't even had a winning season. Not even a winning record.
Drew Franklin
That's amazing.
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Drew Franklin
That is serious.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. And every bite. I know you.
Matt Jones
I know you.
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Drew Franklin
I completely agree with that.
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Drew Franklin
That's great.
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Drew Franklin
All right, so then the game before that was Rams and Panthers. Another great game. I thought the Panthers acquitted themselves well, but Matthew Stafford looked like an MVP when he had to go down the field and get a two minute drive for a touchdown. They go and do it. The Rams are my super bowl pick. I'm still, I'm hoping we beat him next week, but I'm still holding to that. And I think you saw that in that game.
Matt Jones
A stunning score. You know, the spread was 10 and a half, 11, even 12 points at 1 point. I think a lot of people expected a blowout. So kudos to the Panthers. Another great Atmosphere. I'm not putting it above souls.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
But another team fired up to be hosting a playoff game. But it went, you know, Stafford to Stafford. And I saw Devonte. Adams said with two minutes left, he picked up his helmet and went over to the offense. It was like, well, let's go rip their hearts out. And he was like, the way he said it was so gangster. Like, it was just the most, like, stone cold killer, let's go do this. That they had no doubt they were going to finish.
Drew Franklin
That was I. I knew when they had that much time, I'm like, they're winning. But I thought Bryce Young played surprisingly, really well. I mean, people have kind of gone back and forth on his. Is Bryce Young a real. Is he real NFL talented quarterback? And, you know, you can make cases either way. But I think in the biggest moments, he played really, really well.
Matt Jones
Y. And they weren't the Bears, but they had a lot of comebacks this year led by him. Some big fourth quarter drafts to go in games. So if I'm a Panthers fan, I'm excited about him. He's not, you know, I don't know he's ever going to be that top tier where, you know, MVP caliber quarterback, but he proved to not give up on him and give him more time because he was a winner this year, even though it was the NFC South.
Drew Franklin
Did you see, excuse me, how popular Cam Newton is in Charlotte?
Matt Jones
They love him, don't they?
Billy
He was beating the drum.
Drew Franklin
But like, man, they love him in. In Charlotte.
Matt Jones
Is that because, of course he got him to the, to the Super Bowl. But I mean, they've had McCaffrey, but he leaves. They've had other good players. They leave, go to the teams, you know, he.
Drew Franklin
Well. But also like, okay, he's the one. Yeah. I mean, if you sit there and say, okay, give me the most exciting Panther of all time, Jake Delome.
Matt Jones
Jake's alone.
Drew Franklin
But. But Steve Smith Jr. Okay, so you. Steve Smith's probably their greatest player.
Billy
Musha Muhammad.
Drew Franklin
But let me ask you a question. Do you know for certain what Steve Smith looks like?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I can watch Steve Smith.
Drew Franklin
I don't think I could kick him.
Matt Jones
Out on the sidewalk.
Billy
He's been on TV so.
Drew Franklin
Well, not on a channel. I'm watching. Is he in the Diplomat?
Billy
I think it was the NFL Network.
Matt Jones
Good show.
Drew Franklin
I'm enjoying the Diplomat. Have you ever seen the Diplomat?
Matt Jones
Yeah, yeah. Netflix, Carrie Russell.
Drew Franklin
All right, so I'm halfway through season three. Don't spoil it.
Matt Jones
Well, you're ahead of me then.
Drew Franklin
So don't spoil it. Season one, slow. Like really slow. So slow. I'm like, I can't believe this got made. But then it picks up towards the end of the season. Then season two is just fire. But it starts to get absurd. But absurd in a way I'm really enjoying. And then season three, forget it. Like they've just decided, let's just be wacky.
Matt Jones
What about Julius Peppers or any other.
Drew Franklin
He's a good one. Yeah. Who is the Panthers all time top five. Newton, Smith, Peppers, Luke.
Matt Jones
Luke Kycley, Keakley.
Drew Franklin
Is it Keakley?
Matt Jones
Sorry, apologies.
Drew Franklin
That's what you think. And who's the fifth?
Billy
Thomas Davis. No, no.
Matt Jones
D' Angelo Williams.
Billy
Him and Jonathan Stewart were.
Drew Franklin
Jonathan Stewart, That's a good one.
Matt Jones
Kevin Green.
Drew Franklin
Boom. Kevin Green, Yes. Former WCW tag team champion.
Matt Jones
That's actually why it came to mind was the wrestler came to mind. I'm like, oh yeah, he was a pan.
Drew Franklin
Kevin Green. Well, we've just given all Panthers list and Carolina Mike is on the list. Well, I thought the Panthers acquitted themselves well then you start today. Bills and Jaguars.
Matt Jones
What a game.
Drew Franklin
Great game. Josh Allen. I'm not. I've got the Bills in the super bowl against the Rams. I'm even more confident in it now. You are not. You give me Josh Allen against another quarterback. I'm taking Josh Allen.
Matt Jones
He was awesome again today. And it like a superhuman effort too. He just. First half seemed like he was in the tent over and over. I don't know how many injuries he had, but it was a different one. Each trip had all the rushing touchdowns, including the one it was supposed to be a tush push. And then he ends up taking it to the house on like a 20 yard quarterback sneak. He was just doing whatever he wanted. After a slow first half, by the.
Drew Franklin
Way, the Golden Globes just ended. Best drama Hamnet.
Billy
Haven't seen it.
Drew Franklin
That's the one about the writing of Hamlet.
Matt Jones
Okay, first I've heard it.
Drew Franklin
You don't know this story. William Shakespeare. You've heard of him? Yep. Bill, he wrote a play, Hamlet. Oh, what? Yes, I've heard of that. Yeah, I'm making sure you're following me.
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Drew Franklin
All right, so he wrote a play, Hamlet. But did you know he had a son named Hamnet?
Matt Jones
Hamlet did or Shakespeare did?
Drew Franklin
Shakespeare. Okay. No, he had a son named Hamnet who died at the age of 11. And then three or four years later he wrote Hamlet in Gaelic. English. Hamlet and Hamnet are the same.
Matt Jones
Wow.
Drew Franklin
So people believe, although they don't know for sure. That Hamlet was based on his son Hamnet's death. And so this movie is about Shakespeare writing Hamlet and how his son's death was a big part of why he wrote.
Billy
They made a movie about the writing of Hamlet?
Drew Franklin
Yes, they did. And it stars the one dude. I don't know. What's his name? He's handsome. Paul Mess. No, not Pedro Pascal. Paul Mescal. He's in Sunburn. You've seen this guy? He's in everything. Anyway, he's in it. All right, well, you guys are really not up to date.
Matt Jones
I didn't know they made movies these days that weren't Marvel or Avatar or something. Flying around in space.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Mescal. Anyway, we'll check it out. And then one battle after another one. Best comedy. I've seen it.
Matt Jones
Wait, not a comedy?
Drew Franklin
Why is it a comedy?
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Drew Franklin
It won best comedy or musical. It's also not a musical.
Matt Jones
I downloaded that to watching the plane. It was longer than my flight.
Drew Franklin
Have you seen it?
Matt Jones
Parts of it.
Drew Franklin
It's really good. But it's not a comedy.
Matt Jones
Not at all that. You threw me off when you said it won best comedy.
Drew Franklin
Win best comedy.
Matt Jones
I feel like this happens at the Golden Globes almost every year.
Drew Franklin
They continue to call the bear a comedy. It's never been funny.
Matt Jones
That's the example I need. I knew there was a recent win. I'm like, why is this a comedy?
Drew Franklin
But one battle after another is not a comedy in the least.
Matt Jones
No. Not even a little bit, huh? How did Nikki Glaser do? She was the host. Right. I was watching football.
Drew Franklin
She had. She had a good joke. I'm trying to remember what it was. Well, I forget she. She did have. I thought she. I watched her monologue. I thought it was pretty funny.
Matt Jones
We'll catch the highlights. She does a good job. Yeah, I'm a fan. Big gift for her being the host of that.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Although she could be any age. I don't. I have no idea how.
Matt Jones
It looks like she's been around a while.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Billy
She killed it at that Tom Brady roast. So she's kind of.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, that was kind of. When she's a good, mean comic.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
All right, so what were you talking about? Josh Allen, Steve Smith Jr. Haley Stanfield. His wife was.
Matt Jones
There we go.
Drew Franklin
She was nominated for center Sinners and fans. But she was nominated.
Matt Jones
People wanted her in Jacksonville supporting her hubby.
Drew Franklin
They wanted to skip the Golden Globes to go to Jacksonville.
Matt Jones
What are you doing? Go watch Josh run all over Jackson. Go get the Hot tub.
Cam Jordan
Haley.
Drew Franklin
That's a lot of people that wanted Braxton Barrios to skip the game to go to dancing with the stars. Come on, people. Got work to do.
Matt Jones
Big night for the allens, though.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, big night. She didn't win, though. Anyway, Josh Allen was great.
Matt Jones
He was.
Drew Franklin
Trevor Lawrence played well, but then on the last drive, throws an interception and you see who's better than the other one.
Matt Jones
Yep, two interceptions. Mark the end. There was a moment in the game I was very worried. You know, longtime cover zero listeners know our trip to Buffalo and our good friend Ray Davis. I was very worried about Ray Davis's fumble.
Drew Franklin
The first team, all NFL, but we.
Matt Jones
Had just bragged on Wednesday about how good he was, and I was worried about a Cover 00 curse developing. But the defense held strong.
Drew Franklin
After I my ESPN show this morning, my ESPN lock of the day was that Ray Davis was going to run a touchdown back on a kickoff. And Myron had never even heard of Ray Davis. And so, of course, the moment he fumbled, text me and goes, well, that was a good pick.
Matt Jones
And Ray looks so crushed they were doing this. Let's show this guy on the sideline. Let's. Let's see how miserable he is now.
Drew Franklin
He gets another chance.
Matt Jones
Yeah, he gets another chance. Defense bailed him out, End up zero points off the turnover. He was all right, but it in the moment, I was very worried about her.
Drew Franklin
Boy, what did you think about the reporter after the game who tried to make Liam Cohen feel better? She basically said something like, son, you keep your head up. You move those shoulders back. I'm proud of you.
Matt Jones
She sounded so sweet.
Drew Franklin
She sounded like the nicest woman in the world. But she's getting crushed on the Internet. If you want a symbol of why our society is falling apart, nicest woman in the world gets crushed for being.
Matt Jones
I wish that I had that woman's number where if I had a bad day, I could just call her and say, will you talk me through this? Because she had the sweetest voice. And her message to Liam Cohen was.
Drew Franklin
So sweet, so nice.
Matt Jones
And the Internet's being so mean.
Drew Franklin
Why are people so mean? Like, okay, technically, is that what a journalist is supposed to do? No, not probably not. I mean, Drew did one time say to mark pope, hey, marxy worksy, how are you doing? Like, he did do that, but sometimes it's nice.
Matt Jones
I was caught up in the moment. Oh, wow.
Drew Franklin
Called him marksy.
Matt Jones
Walksyou. I'm with you. I hear the complaints. It should be media, but it's also ari. That was 30 seconds did it. We all heard. Anybody? We good? Everybody?
Drew Franklin
I haven't seen her picture.
Matt Jones
Let's all move on.
Drew Franklin
I don't know her age, but she feels like she would cook good food at a homecoming, at a church.
Matt Jones
Oh, the Internet was like, that's anti.
Drew Franklin
Can you imagine how good her casseroles are? And I don't like people being mean to her.
Matt Jones
There are things that happen in press conferences where you're like, all right, this is not hard hitting journalism at the moment, but whatever. Like, just be nice, though.
Drew Franklin
Like, she's a nice lady. Is she a reporter or did she.
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Billy
Jacksonville Press. She. She writes for a Jacksonville publication.
Drew Franklin
Which one?
Billy
Jacksonville Free Press is. I believe what I remember hearing, but what is that?
Drew Franklin
I don't.
Billy
I'm not sure.
Drew Franklin
Okay, I don't care. I like her.
Matt Jones
It didn't hurt anybody.
Drew Franklin
There's a person who's been covering the University of Kentucky games since I've been doing it, who I don't believe has ever written a story for any entity. Okay. I'm not kidding you. And I'm not trying. It's a wonderful part. But I have never seen any actual outlet produce anything he's done. But he's nice.
Matt Jones
Front row. Every time.
Drew Franklin
He always sits on the front row. He has a cookie. He seems to really like the red chocolate chip cookies when they have them. Why can't everybody have one of those? And if she wants to tell Liam Cohen to keep his head up, what's wrong with that play with you? I hope she's okay. I hope she's not taking all this criticism to heart.
Matt Jones
Imagine hearing that. The message and the voice and thinking, you know what? I'm going to type off a tweet hating on that woman.
Drew Franklin
I agree. And you could tell Liam Cohen was touched.
Matt Jones
He was.
Drew Franklin
You could actually literally see him, like, beam. In a world full of hate, Billy, why can't we be nice? Yeah.
Billy
I was going to be that guy tonight.
Drew Franklin
You were going to be that guy. I knew you would because that's you. Yeah. See, look at her.
Matt Jones
Found a picture. And Billy's right. It was the. The Jacksonville.
Drew Franklin
Look how sweet she looks.
Matt Jones
And okay, you're Liam Cohen. You're crushed.
Drew Franklin
You're.
Julian Edelman
You're down.
Matt Jones
You just lost a home game. Season's over.
Drew Franklin
Nice top.
Matt Jones
Would you rather reporter be like, oh, what did you think about the play of the safeties tonight? Or would you rather get that message? Message. You'd rather get that message.
Drew Franklin
Go give your little pessimistic. I'M a journalist.
Billy
No, no, I'm actually, here's the thing. You've already got people in the letterman jackets, the team reporters there that are biased and asking questions and say, talk about this. I mean, journalistic integrity is already dead. So come on, let's just say nice things every once in a while.
Drew Franklin
Look at you.
Billy
Besides Rick Stroud, he's. He's still the journalist out there.
Drew Franklin
Who's Rick Stroud?
Billy
The Bucks reporter. I've networked.
Drew Franklin
The guy you got really excited about.
Matt Jones
He was the only person there before us.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, I'm for it to. I'm for it. And I like that lady. And I hope she brightened Liam Cohen's day. Do you think this is the start of Jacksonville being regularly, like in this position, or is Trevor Lawrence not good enough?
Matt Jones
Man, he was awesome. The end of the year. I know today with two interceptions let down, but the last month and a half of the season, he was pretty incredible. And it helps that division know Houston's defense is elite, but you got a few built in wins. With my team, I think Jacksonville can, can still have something moving forward. The great first year for Cohen, obviously. And then you, you have a top pick that barely even played. We still don't know what you're going to get out of him.
Drew Franklin
Is he still on the team?
Matt Jones
Travis Hunter? Yeah, he was injured all year, but I mean, to have a turnaround.
Drew Franklin
It's true. Like, you don't hear that guy talked about at all.
Matt Jones
To have a turnaround like that without even using your top draft pick. Go from four wins to what they did is a heck of a year.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Great defensive line.
Matt Jones
So a little more star power, a little more punch.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, they probably, I don't know, feel like they're pretty good. I mean, they were great this year, but just, you know, made those two interceptions at the end.
Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
Then you get 49ers Eagles. I feel like the Eagles fans were waiting for today all year. Just waiting to lose to prove they were correct. Sometimes fan bases can get like that. They're so mad at their team that they're almost like hoping they will be right, that the team is not good. I got that sense today. Just. I mean, the makeup of the year plays out in this game. They just don't have enough. And then you have A.J. brown. What do you think of the Syrian? Well, let's. First of all, the game. 49ers win, George Kittle gets hurt. They lose another person. They just find a way to keep winning.
Matt Jones
Insane with the 49ers have gone through. I mean, tonight with Kettle. But then Ton just comes in, makes a big catch right after Kittle goes down. But all year the receiver room has been banged up. They've had this for a couple years. At the end, the linebackers names escaping me breaks up the pass. He was signed to the practice squad in like November.
Billy
Kendricks.
Matt Jones
Yeah, Kendricks. Thank you. They're just throwing people together. And now they're on to the second wind of the weekend of the playoffs. Incredible job by Shanahan. And then not at the play. They showed him so much on tv. There's never been a coordinator shown on TV more than him, but he earned it with how that defense is played.
Drew Franklin
Again, it's handsome privilege.
Matt Jones
It is true. He gets a handsome.
Drew Franklin
He gets handsome. When you have handsome privilege, they will put you on tv. They show Sal all the time. All the time.
Matt Jones
And they showed him more than Shanahan. I kept thinking that as the game was ending like a coordinator has never gotten this much attention.
Drew Franklin
They love him and he. But he's clearly a good court. Maybe not a good coach. Although the jets are worse without him than they were.
Matt Jones
He's on the Titans list and I wouldn't hate it compared to some of the names.
Drew Franklin
Really?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I'd take like he'd be the perfect Titans coach.
Matt Jones
I'd take him.
Drew Franklin
He'd go 6 and 11.
Matt Jones
That's fine. It's an upgrade. Better than some of the names.
Drew Franklin
Brock Purdy gets it done and then. But when it comes down to it, just don't have enough. Now, AJ Brown, what do you think of the Sirianni AJ Brown. Then AJ Refused to talk the media when it was over, Sirianni said we're like brothers. I kind of don't know if that's true, but what do you think?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I saw a TWEET that he like hugged his teammates and abruptly just left the locker room.
Drew Franklin
He'll never play for them again.
Matt Jones
Does not look like it. I mean the bad drop on third down, that was a terrible drop.
Drew Franklin
Like for a guy who swined all year. That was a major play.
Matt Jones
And you're an all pro receiver. You catch that every time. I mean you're not some rookie that's the moment's too big your age. Jay Brown. That's supposed to be an automatic catch. And you're paid for that to be an automatic catch.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I will say though, I'm big on they hadn't shouldn't taking that last week off. You've got dropped routine catches her to play Green Bay. Hertz missed the throw he should have had there at the end. Throws it high. You've got your kicker missing kicks. I really don't think it's crazy that week off look a little rusty. Some little just fundamental mistakes here and there. Maybe in the half before they took the week off was that horrible half of Buffalo where they played so bad. I really think they're still something to them not figuring out that last week and playing a little more football.
Drew Franklin
I also think you would rather have played Green Bay. Just as a practical matter. You'd rather have played Green Bay than play San Francisco.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That 49ers Seahawks Rams division was Nan all three of those teams.
Drew Franklin
49 Seahawks will play for the third time. That's another. Those first two were both good. So now you have another like trilogy that's going to end up playing. I mean that is. That's. That's a powerhouse game and I think they each won on the other's field.
Matt Jones
Well for the Seahawks it was their last. They just played the 49ers because two in a row Darnold walked off the field said see in two weeks to Purdy patted him on the chest.
Drew Franklin
Oh, that's right. I forgot about.
Billy
And then Juan Jennings throw to CMC reverse touchdown throw.
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Drew Franklin
That was a great call. I felt like a lot of times when the people tried to do trickeration. It didn't work this weekend but it did work on that one which was a big one.
Matt Jones
That it's just the Eagles offense just embarrassing stuff there at the end hurts when he. They have one chance 4th and 9. When Hertz throws it. It looked like there were six 49ers players in the shot and no EAG like who are you throwing it into in traffic here? They just.
Drew Franklin
They've just. They've looked so unhappy all year. So it almost feels like they got put out of their misery.
Matt Jones
And it's crazy. Sirianni, I don't know if he'd get fired. He just won a Super bowl and they were very upset with him.
Drew Franklin
Right now you can't fire.
Matt Jones
I know you can't fire him, but they are for a guy that has a ring on his finger that's not even a year old. I mean, they're unhappy with him and how that offense looked this year with so much star power.
Billy
He just seems like the players don't like him him. Like when AJ Brown dropped that pass, he ran down the field to let him know about it.
Drew Franklin
Well, now he claims he ran down the field to tell him to get off so they could punt. Do you agree or disagree?
Matt Jones
Big Dom had to jump in. I don't know if Big Dom would have to jump in.
Billy
They had to be yelling at each other all year.
Drew Franklin
But he said I ran down because he was arguing and he wasn't getting off the field for the punt.
Billy
Okay. I bet you there were some undertones.
Drew Franklin
I don't believe him. I'm just telling you, you don't believe him. I remember his opening press conference and now then he won a Super Bowl. So I felt like, well, well, you know, you got to give him credit.
Matt Jones
Well, they. Their roster that they have is a Super bowl roster. And to lose it home in the first round after they fizzled out in the regular season is a huge disappointment.
Billy
And Sirianni has the second most wins all time in the first five years of coach in a playoffs.
Drew Franklin
Is that right?
Billy
So I need to fire him.
Drew Franklin
Would be probably. They won't fire Harbaugh. And then they did. And then Mike McDaniel, they waited three or four days to look like they were keeping.
Matt Jones
We talked about that earlier in the year. Don't fire him. Then he actually wins some games and finishes strong. And then they do fire.
Drew Franklin
And then they do fire. So which one do you. By the time we. Which one do you think John Harbaugh is going to get? Which job by the time we come on again? He may have one. Which one?
Matt Jones
I know, I've seen. He's doing his homework, watching clips of all the quarterbacks. If I'm him, I go to the Giants and try that.
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Drew Franklin
What about Baltimore? I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah. Maybe they should go back to Baltimore. Sorry. John Harbaugh, Giants of the jobs, though. What's the. What's the better job? Baltimore Giants. If you're, if you're like Giants it.
Matt Jones
Just Lamar doesn't have that much left.
Drew Franklin
See that's what that would be my take.
Matt Jones
I mean Derek Henry don't have much left.
Drew Franklin
They have a lot I think was he got a lot of more long term upside with the Giants and New York.
Matt Jones
It's the Giants the tradition.
Drew Franklin
I will say though if Laura the Packers is a pretty good job.
Matt Jones
Oh definitely that that would.
Drew Franklin
Would you put that ahead of the Giants?
Matt Jones
Maybe because love maybe look I mean darts exciting. We still don't truly know what dart is. Love looks like a quarterback that you can.
Drew Franklin
You know love's good.
Matt Jones
Michael Parsons is on your defense.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I think that actually if that were.
Matt Jones
Open I would go but you are.
Drew Franklin
In a division with the Bears and.
Billy
The Lions higher expectations.
Drew Franklin
Much higher expectations. The Giants would be happy. They've been good in a long time so they'd be pretty happy about. But there you go.
Matt Jones
And then I was very surprised the Ravens let him go. That happened after our Wednesday show like right after. I was shocked by that.
Drew Franklin
I was. I was shocked. If they were going to do it why didn't you? I mean like what were you waiting 20 years like what were you going to learn in two or three days? Like if he's not going to coach.
Billy
That was an important kick. Do you think they would have fired Tomlin if he would have made that kick?
Drew Franklin
I mean two long time coaches really great point Billy because that kick had nothing to do with with Harbaugh or Tomlin's ability. But if he makes the kick, Harbaugh stays. Tomlin goes. He misses it, Tomlin stays, Harbaugh goes. That makes both of those decisions seem so arbitrary because what happened had nothing to do with it really.
Matt Jones
Now you have two really legends where they are. I've been there over a decade and you have a 22 year old kicker deciding what should happen.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, well Patriots Chargers was miserable. I. I'm gonna make a motion. I need a co sponsor. Okay. I. Chargers should not be allowed to play in the playoffs again at all. I mean Justin, I've watched this game. I feel like I've watched it 10 times. I don't even know how many times they've made the playoffs. But I feel like I've watched them lose a pitiful performance in the playoffs with Justin Herbert many years no matter.
Billy
The coach at this point.
Drew Franklin
Yeah I just. I don't think they should be allowed to be in the playoffs anymore.
Matt Jones
And this was just a repeat of all the Chargers losses this year.
Drew Franklin
He.
Matt Jones
He just got absolutely offensive line who.
Drew Franklin
Is blocking for them.
Matt Jones
They've had a lot of injuries.
Drew Franklin
I mean, I'm. Mario got here on time. I assumed he was playing for him. Like, they just. They're awful.
Matt Jones
I think they ended up with six sacks. He was just getting rocked at every turn, running for his life. He never stood a chance. Three points. Pretty disappointing, though, to your point about not letting the Chargers in.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, you do a little better than three. It didn't really answer my questions about the Patriots either, because, you know, they dominate on defense, but I don't know. So, you know, they'll get either the Texans or the Steelers. I think what's funny is I think they'll probably win that game, and I still don't know if they're good. Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, to have to have a team with that record, an MVP candidate and score one touchdown in a game like this was disappointing on their end, too. But their defense was outstanding.
Drew Franklin
Their defense was outstanding. It was, but that was. That was. That was our payback for four games being good. Really. Didn't get to hear Chris Collinsworth moan very much.
Matt Jones
He made a few noises. I heard him. It's.
Drew Franklin
It's un. He didn't have a very good game, though. So, like, he didn't have a game where he could moan, you know?
Matt Jones
Do you think he was jealous of all the other games? Like, man, I could be moaning so much right now, and here it is.
Drew Franklin
Cause his season's over now.
Matt Jones
Yeah. It's six to three at halftime. He's just looking out the window, thinking about all the moans he left behind.
Drew Franklin
Couldn't have done all the moans.
Matt Jones
The cloud over his head.
Drew Franklin
Do you have YouTube TV?
Matt Jones
I do.
Drew Franklin
Okay. So I don't know if they've always done this, but now when you. If you're watching YouTube TV and you turn it off when you come back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just leaves you right where you are.
Matt Jones
It's gotten me many times.
Drew Franklin
It still gets me. I was 20 minutes behind that game tonight.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's happened to me so many times.
Drew Franklin
Man, this show's gonna start so late. Is that an option you have turned off?
Matt Jones
Which game did. Did Pam Oliver have. Was it the Panthers? It was the Panthers on Saturday. Pam Oliver is talking. It's like the second quarter, and then I realize I am watching the pregame show. I left the room or changed rooms or something. And she says something like, I think so and so is going to play today. I'm like, what do you mean? It is seven to three and it.
Drew Franklin
Will do it like 24 hours but before. Yeah. So, like, I this morning got up and I turned it on and I'm like, are they showing the replay of Fresno State unlv? Was it that good a basketball game?
Matt Jones
I don't like that feature. We got to get that fixed. I fall for it every time I get on Twitter and the score is completely different than what I'm watching.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it throws me off.
Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
So they have. Let's see, do we have an updated NFL playoff schedule? So if they release two when everyone's playing here.
Billy
I don't know if we have when, but we have the matchups, I believe.
Drew Franklin
Well, but I mean, I knew that they haven't said when yet. I guess it depends on who wins these games coming up. No, here we go. Bills, Broncos 430 or eight Saturday, Texans, Patriots. That'll be Sunday. Seahawks, 49ers are Saturday. Rams, Bears will be a Sunday.
Matt Jones
Exciting stuff.
Drew Franklin
So for all of you, Rams, Bears.
Billy
And I'm like, Drew, I'm all in on the Bears. Like, I hope this is the.
Drew Franklin
You hope it happens.
Billy
The run to the super bowl and we're there for press row and everything.
Matt Jones
And play the tapes. I was saying this week's for the season and I just believe in their offense.
Drew Franklin
And that's the 40th anniversary of 85, see. So if they make the super bowl.
Matt Jones
You'Re gonna be shuffling.
Drew Franklin
I want you to think about all that stuff. We're, you know, we're not going to be here to Feathers ruffles. We're going to end. Like, they'll recreate it. They'll probably bring those guys back to.
Matt Jones
Dance with Caleb Williams and.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean, it would be. It would be kind of awesome if Stevie can't. Jimmy can't do it. I sure can. That's what the backup quarterback saying. It's going to be Great.
Matt Jones
Maybe the old guys can come back and, like, paint their nails and wear the earrings like Caleb Williams.
Drew Franklin
Oh, that would be nice.
Matt Jones
Caleb Williams. Do a little nod to him.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
As he shuffles.
Billy
Will you paint your nails if the Bears make the Super Bowl?
Drew Franklin
I mean, I'd do it anyway.
Matt Jones
Got a recommendation and you know someone.
Drew Franklin
I could use it. Okay, let's do the touchdowns. We picked touchdowns I did not do well. How did we do?
Billy
Matt, both you and I hit three of our five touchdown picks.
Drew Franklin
Who do we get?
Billy
I had Pukinakua. I also had Parker Washington.
Drew Franklin
That was a big one, a surprise.
Billy
And Christian McCaffrey. You had Kyron Williams.
Drew Franklin
Yep.
Billy
Josh Allen.
Drew Franklin
Yep.
Billy
And DeAndre Swift.
Drew Franklin
DeAndre Swift. So we both had three.
Billy
We were tied at eight in the touchdown game where we've done well.
Matt Jones
I had Karen Williams.
Drew Franklin
No, you did. I had Karen.
Matt Jones
I'm positive because I said, I don't want any of the receivers from the Rams. I want the running back.
Billy
I had you as dowdle.
Matt Jones
No, that was Matt.
Drew Franklin
No. Positive.
Matt Jones
Positive.
Drew Franklin
Who had. There's no.
Matt Jones
I'm sure I know exactly what I said.
Drew Franklin
First of all, there's no record of.
Matt Jones
Matt said, I've got Rico and Nico, remember?
Drew Franklin
No, I said, I have Rico and.
Matt Jones
I had Kyron Williams because Rico didn't play.
Drew Franklin
And Kyle Chuba Hubbard played over Rico, which allows me to get.
Matt Jones
I had Kyron Williams a thousand percent.
Drew Franklin
Who did Drew get?
Billy
I'm very organized. I have it as Kyron Williams.
Matt Jones
I had Kyron Williams.
Billy
We will review the tape.
Drew Franklin
There's no Matt. Do you remember?
Matt Jones
Do you remember Matt?
Drew Franklin
I don't remember any of this.
Matt Jones
He said, why did I write down Rico twice? Do you remember this conversation?
Drew Franklin
No. I said, why did I write down Pyron and Siren and Kyron?
Matt Jones
I did not do well, but I had Kyron Williams. He might have been my only one. Did he get one, Drew? You.
Billy
You were oh, for five.
Drew Franklin
Exactly.
Matt Jones
No, I had. This is.
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Drew Franklin
This is not a for five.
Matt Jones
I specifically said I do not want any of the Rams Puka. I don't want them fight of the receivers. Give me Kyron Williams.
Drew Franklin
I have a distinct memory now.
Matt Jones
I'm worried about the whole season. Maybe I'm still in the survival league.
Drew Franklin
Who do we have for the game coming up, though?
Billy
All right, so Houston Pit. I have.
Drew Franklin
Is that what you call the Steelers Pit? Yeah. Okay. Never heard him called Pit.
Billy
I have DK Metcalf. Matt, you have him.
Matt Jones
He has Nico Collins. I have DK Metcalf.
Billy
No, I Have DK Metcalf Drew. I actually don't have written down Billy.
Drew Franklin
What did you write down?
Matt Jones
No, wait, I. I think I might have taken a running back in this one. It's the only selection I don't claim.
Drew Franklin
He's claiming.
Matt Jones
I'm gonna pull up our podcast.
Drew Franklin
He's claiming. Lies. He's claiming. Now he has DK Metgame.
Matt Jones
You already proved you didn't write down anything for me. So I'm already questioning who do you.
Drew Franklin
Have as me having in this next.
Matt Jones
I had one of the Steelers running.
Billy
Collins for you in this game because I tried to take Collins and you're like, I just took them.
Drew Franklin
That's right, I do.
Matt Jones
And I went Warren or Gainwell, but I can't remember which one I picked.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, final answer. I want you to have both of them. It doesn't matter because you didn't have. Unbelievable.
Matt Jones
I can't trust this game anymore.
Drew Franklin
Who do you think is going to win tomorrow night?
Matt Jones
Steelers. I'm doing it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think.
Matt Jones
I know that. I know the Texans defense is elite, but I'm going to believe in Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. One more game.
Drew Franklin
It's also just in Pittsburgh. It's Monday night. You know, they're all going to be like they got all that steel. They're going to get off work, have a brew, and then they're going to go. And I think they're going to win.
Matt Jones
I am worried, though. Billy will say I picked the Texans when we come back on Wednesday.
Billy
They won't matter. You're so far behind.
Matt Jones
How do we know? How do we even know what can be trusted?
Drew Franklin
Stop the count.
Matt Jones
Well, hopefully it's a better game than how we finished nine. Let's get another classic.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Who you got, Billy, on this one? Who are you thinking to win?
Matt Jones
I have Houston win.
Drew Franklin
Okay, well, four of the five were great. Now let's quickly talk about we are going to go to the Super Bowl. NFL is sending us. That's very exciting. Put us up in a hotel. Originally, they told us we would go. Get to go Tuesday and leave Friday, which was sort of covering the Super Bowl. So I said, better than not going. Agreed.
Matt Jones
Four more days than I would have had.
Drew Franklin
That's very positive. I agree.
Matt Jones
I'm a glass halfway.
Drew Franklin
But I was like, hey, can we stay through the weekend? Because I wanted to, like, you know, party. Go to the party. Right? Go to the parties. Shaq's parties Friday night.
Matt Jones
Can they have the parties if we're not there?
Drew Franklin
Yes.
Matt Jones
We've done it for many Years. Many Roman numerals.
Drew Franklin
I think actually no one will miss it if we're not there. And then the Sports Illustrated party. And then there are other parties. There's. I don't know if we're invited, but there's like this Maxim still exists, probably two magazine parties.
Matt Jones
We have a Sports Illustrated and a Maxim, I believe. Is there a people party?
Drew Franklin
Hang on.
Matt Jones
Us Weekly. Tiger Beat. We're going to the Tiger Beat party. We've earned the Tiger Beat stripes. Vanity Fair. They have.
Drew Franklin
Let's look. Yeah, they do. I think that one's going to be harder for us to get in. Super bowl party. There is a Maxim party.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
It's at the Midway Theater. It's a weird place to have a party. There's the NFL Primetime Awards Special. Have we been invited to that?
Matt Jones
I don't think so. Waiting on our nomination. Maybe they're going to do one of those videos where they surprise us.
Drew Franklin
Pro bowl is happening. But that's Tuesday. Here, I'm going to read you some more events here. NFL Culture Club. The. They're having a concert which will include Chris Stapleton.
Matt Jones
Okay, There we go.
Drew Franklin
That would be exciting, wouldn't it?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And then they're going to have the Super Bowl Innovation Summit where you can learn all the new technology around sports.
Billy
Like that.
Drew Franklin
Oh, you like that? Yeah.
Billy
Like the virtual measure. Like, what's next? Lights and helmets.
Drew Franklin
That's the one you need to get invited to. It fills right up and down your alley. Some other. Let me give you some other. Like the cool parties. The Crown Royal Starter party with performances by Juvenile and Manny Fresh.
Matt Jones
Oh, I love Juvenile. Manny Fresh. Fresh. Fresh. Fresh Timer.
Drew Franklin
The art of whiskey. Super Bowl Cigar party.
Matt Jones
Art of whiskey. Okay.
Drew Franklin
Don't know what that means.
Matt Jones
That's our specialty here.
Drew Franklin
The Pepsi Super Bowl Boil. It's a boil. Seafood boil.
Matt Jones
Okay. I like seafood boils.
Drew Franklin
Okay.
Matt Jones
Tastes good.
Drew Franklin
The Sportico Kickoff, starring John Legend.
Matt Jones
I love John Legend. So far, we're going to have to hit all of these.
Drew Franklin
The celebrity SummerSlam basketball game. Team Mike McKenzie against Team Landon Collins. Now they're using celebrity.
Matt Jones
I think we could get into that one.
Drew Franklin
The one Party by Uber, hosted by Travis Scott.
Matt Jones
Okay, Another one we got.
Drew Franklin
Hit the Bud Light backyard with Post Malone.
Matt Jones
Which one? What are you going to wear to these events?
Drew Franklin
That one will be Crowded Club and shirt trip. Oh, wait a minute. Here we go. Homecoming 2025 presented by DraftKings. I bet we can get into this.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's the one we're going to do.
Drew Franklin
Starring the Chain Smokers and Nelson.
Billy
Nelly.
Drew Franklin
I'm going down, down, baby. To the DraftKings party, where I'm in.
Matt Jones
One of the best halftime shows, too.
Drew Franklin
And then finally, the Uncommon events pregame party starting presented by Diplo good DJ.50.
Matt Jones
We're going to end so many parties.
Drew Franklin
A lot of parties. 50 cents comedy party starring 50 cent and Bill Bellamy.
Matt Jones
Bill Bellamy's still around.
Drew Franklin
Where's Dan Cortez? Heck, yeah.
Matt Jones
I miss that basketball. These do rock and jock.
Drew Franklin
Oh, it was great.
Matt Jones
Bellamy was. He was a bucket on there.
Drew Franklin
So there is Maxim. Oh, the theme is saints and sinners.
Matt Jones
Which one are you going to go as?
Drew Franklin
I'm going as a sinner.
Matt Jones
I'm going as Tyler Shuck. You be a sinner. I'll be Tyler Shuck.
Drew Franklin
Be great costume. No, I'll go as Tyler Chuck. People be very confused. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. There are more. Guy Fieri party starring Guy Fieri, Flavor Flav and Cowboy Mouth.
Matt Jones
The celebrities on these.
Drew Franklin
Who is Cowboy Mouth?
Matt Jones
I don't know.
Drew Franklin
Wow. All right. There you go. I didn't realize there were so many. How are we going to hit all these?
Matt Jones
Are we going to pack and still do our shows? Billy, which NFL hat are you packing? Does he got listeners to know Billy has a new NFL hat?
Drew Franklin
Guy has three hats with the NFL logo on.
Matt Jones
I love it, though. I love it.
Billy
Company man.
Drew Franklin
I bet you'll be able to get more of those at the Super Bowl.
Billy
Oh, you.
Matt Jones
If you don't think I'm spending a.
Billy
Lot of money on we got to.
Drew Franklin
Go to Saints and S. And we got to. Do you have to be Tyler sh. Just be like, oh, number one tennis player. Yannick Sinners. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Alvin Kamara.
Drew Franklin
All right. And with that, we will see you on Wednesday. NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Podcast: Kentucky Sports Radio (KSR)
Episode: NFL Cover Zero: A Wild, Wild Weekend!
Date: January 12, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Billy
Theme: Recap and analysis of the NFL Wild Card weekend – one of the most unpredictable and thrilling in recent memory.
Matt Jones and the KSR crew break down one of the wildest NFL Wild Card weekends ever, featuring historic comebacks, coaching controversy, fan stories, and the unique traditions and personalities that make playoff football unforgettable. Drew Franklin’s Bears finally break through after 13 years, leading to lively debate on destiny, key turning points, and the unforgettable atmosphere at Soldier Field. The team also looks ahead to the divisional matchups, shares NFL lore, and dives into fan culture—from cheese graters to bucket-list Super Bowl trips.
Maintaining the KSR’s signature mix of quick wit, relatable sports-fan humor, and genuine passion for football, the hosts blend deep football expertise with light-hearted banter. They highlight the drama and absurdity of NFL fandom—celebrating wild moments, fan rituals, and heartbreaks equally. Their discussions, while informed and detailed, have a casual, everyman energy: “Would you pay $12,000 to watch? Well, it’s your team!” or “How did that guy get a cheese grater in?” captures the essence perfectly.
If you missed NFL Cover Zero’s “A Wild, Wild Weekend!”, this episode is a must-listen for any football fan—especially those delighted by upsets, wild finishes, diehard rivalries, and authentic fan culture. From the magic of Soldier Field to the hilariously chaotic world of Super Bowl parties, Matt, Drew, and crew deliver both sharp analysis and infectious fan energy. The Bears’ fairy-tale run, the Bills’ Allen-Lawrence battle, and coaching hot-seat drama stand out, but the real joy is in the playful arguments, inside stories, and moments of pure fandom that define this truly wild wild card weekend.