NFL Cover Zero: Bring on the snow games!

Summary

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NFL Cover Zero: Bring on the Snow Games!

Podcast: KSR
Episode Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: Drew Franklin (filling in for Matt Jones), Billy R. Sports

Episode Overview

This lively Week 14 recap episode of NFL Cover Zero finds Drew Franklin and Billy R. Sports flying solo, as regular host Matt Jones steps away to support his father during recovery from surgery. The duo delivers their usual Kentucky-tinged football banter while running through a dramatic slate of NFL games, notably several snowy matchups, big wins, surprise losses, and the ever-entertaining saga of the NFL’s quirkiest teams and personalities. Expect snow angels, wild upsets, referee drama, quarterback debates, pop culture asides, and fresh takes on the playoff race—all with plenty of laughs and personal stories.

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Main Themes

• Snow Games & NFL Weather: The enduring magic of football in wintry conditions, with snowy Bills and Browns games at the centerpiece.
• Quarterback Drama: Veteran resurgences, rookie struggles, and midseason surprises affecting almost every division race.
• Referee/Rule Controversies: Head-scratching interpretations, questionable calls, and the perennial “what is a catch?” debate.
• Playoff Picture Madness: Shocks and swings across AFC and NFC, with a major focus on division leaders and wildcard races.
• Football Culture: Personal anecdotes, fan experiences, and a distinctive Kentucky flavor.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Kicking Off: Host Update & Personal Anecdotes (02:26–06:00)

• Matt Jones Absent: Drew explains that Matt Jones is out due to his father’s health issues. The team is sending best wishes:

  “Our heart is with Matt during this tough time... but we got a great slate of games to talk about today, Drew.” (03:28, Billy R. Sports)

• Drew’s Nashville Adventure: Wild weekend in Nashville—hotel shooting, hostile karaoke with Tennessee fans, messy but memorable trip:

  “I tried to do karaoke at Miss Kelly's... I got booed for being a Kentucky fan—because they're full of Vols. At one point, the guy even said, 'Boo this man, he's responsible for giving us Will Levis!'" (05:36, Drew Franklin)

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2. Snow Games Steal the Show (06:29–14:32)

• Cincinnati vs. Buffalo—Football in the Snow: The mystical effect of snow games, the atmosphere in Buffalo, fan traditions (like shoveling the stadium!), and nostalgia for snowy NFL moments.
• Memorable Quotes:

  “Snow games are so fun.” (06:51, Drew Franklin)
  “Just something about snow games on TV, it’s just special.” (06:53, Drew Franklin)

• Player Antics: Bills DT Jordan Phillips shows up for warmups in a Canada Goose parka—hosts debate what NFL persona they’d be in the cold (08:03–09:34).
• Classic Snow Memories: Hosts recall legendary snow games, the infamous “snowplow game”, and Leon Lett’s Thanksgiving blunder.

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3. Game-by-Game Recap and Insights

Bills 38, Bengals 27 (07:53–13:59)

• Josh Allen’s Dominance: Three passing touchdowns, one 40-yard rushing TD (“it’s Peak Josh”—10:45).
• Burrow’s Collapse: Two critical late interceptions squash Bengals’ playoff hopes.
• Receiver Standouts: Higgins shines, but it’s a bittersweet Bengals night.
• Debate: “Can you have too many hand warmers on your body?” (09:34, Drew Franklin)

Steelers 27, Ravens 22 (16:01–20:29)

• Aaron Rodgers Resurgence: Best game as a Steeler at 42 (16:01).
• Coaching Legends Meet: Tomlin vs. Harbaugh—booed one week, blowing kisses the next (16:53).
• Controversy: The “three-feet-down makes a catch” confusion:

  “When do we need three feet?… I couldn’t explain to somebody what a catch is in the NFL. And that’s a problem.” (18:38, Billy R. Sports)

• AFC North Discussion: Is this the end for Lamar as an elite QB? Steelers benefit from a weak division.
• Notable Moment: 42-year-old Rodgers makes a rare reception.

Titans 31, Browns 29: Snowy Mayhem (24:06–27:02)

• Drew’s Mixed Feelings: “I was all in on the tank, but I was pretty happy to see ‘em win... seeing a little bit of progress... offense looking kinda good.” (24:50, Drew Franklin)
• QB Watch: Cam Ward vs. Shadur Sanders—Sanders flashes, Shoulder throws 360 yards.
• Browns' 2-point conversion fiasco: “What a wild call... the running back wasn't ready for it either.” (25:47, Billy R. Sports)

Jaguars 36, Colts 19—AFC South Shakeup (28:31–30:53)

• Jags surge, Colts collapse: Jacksonville controls its destiny, Colts in QB crisis after Daniel Jones injury.
• Liam Cohen’s locker room fire: “He was fired up though. Could be a coach of the year candidate.” (28:31, Drew Franklin)
• Streak Watch: Jags have beaten the Colts 11 straight years at home.

Vikings 31, Commanders 0—Quickest Game of the Year (31:39–34:34)

• **Jaden Daniels gets “jacked up”—host nostalgia for big hits.
• QB Talk: Reluctance to praise J.J. McCarthy (“Not apologizing to nine yet…”).
• Fantasy Heartache: Justin Jefferson’s 2 catch, 11-yard day.

Jets Miss Playoffs, Dolphins Rolling (38:27–41:36)

• Dolphins 34, Jets 10: Turnaround under McDaniel (“We owe Mike McDaniel an apology…” 38:33, Drew Franklin).
• Jets Miss Playoffs, Extend Drought: 15 years, longest in pro sports.
• Host Empathy: “Jets fans, man, I don’t know how they get up and do it every day… at some point I would just be like, I can’t keep doing it.” (40:24, Drew Franklin)

Saints 27, Buccaneers 17—Bucs Collapse (41:36–44:54)

• Billy’s Lament: “Todd Bowles should be embarrassed. He’s a defensive coach and he's got Tyler Schuck running all over him.” (44:00, Billy R. Sports)
• Baker Mayfield Struggles; Booker’s Crucial Drop.
• Panthers/Atlanta, Dolphins, Panthers ahead—do-or-die time.

Packers Over Bears—NFC North Maelstrom (45:24–47:49)

• Caleb Williams’ late INT costs Bears: Drops from 1 to 7 seed.
• Jordan Love Sharp: Packers hot at the right time.

  “This would normally be all about Matt fawning over Caleb Williams... but he made a bad throw.” (46:10, Billy R. Sports)

• Host Pet Peeve: “That odd tie on the Packers/Cowboys record just throws off the standings even more.” (47:24, Drew Franklin)

Broncos 27, Raiders 17—Nonbelievers (49:45–53:27)

• Broncos win 10th straight: Hosts yet unconvinced about their legitimacy.

  “At some point we just gotta—like, they’re good at ten in a row.” (49:54, Drew Franklin)

• Bad Beat: Last-second field goal by the Raiders covers the spread, sparking fan outrage (50:32–51:22).
• Raiders' Struggles: 11 straight division losses.

Lions 44, Cowboys 30—NFC Playoff Implications (53:28–56:32)

• Lions Super Bowl dark horse: Gibbs explodes for 3 touchdowns.
• Cowboys playoff hope flickers: Easy slate, but running out of time.

  “I'm going to speak it into existence...” (57:14, Drew Franklin)

Seahawks 37, Falcons 9—Seattle’s Surge (57:29–59:37)

• Smith-Njigba's dominance: Seattle WR continues epic rookie campaign.
• Atlanta flails; Cousins throws two picks; Pitts only bright spot.
• Defensive shoutout: Rookie Nick Emmanwori’s stat-stuffed day (59:08).

Rams Romp Cardinals—Stafford for MVP? (63:27–66:53)

• Stafford and LA Offense Shines: 550 yards, Puka Nacua returns huge, Devonte Adams
• McVay’s Memory:

  “He says he remembers every play that he’s ever been a part of…Do you believe that?” (64:23, Billy R. Sports)

• Rams as NFC favorites: Only Green Bay seen as a potential threat.

Texans 20, Chiefs 10—Houston’s Statement Win (67:01–69:56)

• Texans defense bullies Mahomes: 3 picks, KC’s O-line battered.
• AFC South Race: “Five wins in a row for the Texans… putting them squarely back in the playoff.” (68:39, Drew Franklin)
• Chiefs Dynasty Done?

  “Ding dong, the witch is dead… There’s nothing they can do to convince me they’re back.” (69:22, Billy R. Sports)

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4. Notable Quotes & Fun Segments

• On Cold-Weather Football:

  “We can see their breath. We know they’re cold on the inside. Quit acting all hard.” (09:08, Drew Franklin)

• On defining a Catch:

  "I work for the NFL and I couldn't explain to somebody what a catch is…That really is a problem." (18:38, Billy R. Sports)

• On the Jets' Futility:

  "15 straight years without the playoffs. It’s the longest drought by any team in pro season, not just the NFL." (39:53, Billy R. Sports)

• On Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift's “No Fights” Claim:

  “I do not believe that Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift have not had one single dispute in their two and a half years.” (70:29, Drew Franklin) “You're in a loveless relationship if you don't have the passion to fight every now and then!” (70:42, Billy R. Sports)

• On Jameis Winston Guesting on TV:

  "Imagine a whole two hours with Jameis Winston. It was great." (27:18, Billy R. Sports)

• On Devonta Smith’s Juicer:

  “He is so excited... talking about the things he juices... The joy on his face… very relatable.” (75:54, Drew Franklin)

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5. Timestamps – Important Segments

• 02:26 – Hosts explain Matt’s absence; Drew describes Nashville weekend
• 06:29 – Diving into the Cincinnati/Buffalo snow game
• 16:01 – Steelers-Ravens showdown & Rodgers' resurgence
• 24:06 – Titans’ unexpected victory in the Cleveland snow
• 28:31 – AFC South implications: Jags hold serve
• 31:39 – Vikings’ shutout, Jaden Daniels injury
• 38:27 – Dolphins rebound, Jets crash out
• 41:36 – Buccaneers upset by Saints
• 45:24 – NFC North chaos: Packers edge Bears, playoff implications
• 49:45 – Broncos' win streak, but hosts remain skeptical
• 53:28 – Thursday Night: Lions take down Cowboys
• 57:29 – Seahawks dominate Falcons
• 63:27 – Rams offense erupts; Stafford MVP talk
• 67:01 – Texans upset Chiefs in Arrowhead
• 70:02–73:59 – Pop culture fun: Travis Kelce/Taylor Swift talk, baby news, future fan recruitment
• 75:12 – Devonte Smith’s joy over juicer (wholesome aside)

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6. Closing Notes & Tone

Throughout, the tone is punchy, humorous, and camaraderie-driven, balancing sharp football analysis with personal storytelling and Kentucky flavor. The episode closes with a quick look ahead to the Eagles/Chargers Monday night game, a playful debate on the virtues of juicing, and best wishes for health and family to Matt Jones.

“We got through it without Matt. Appreciate you doing this... had a fun day. Fun day of games, lots of snow—that made it exciting.” (78:36, Drew Franklin)

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For Those Who Missed the Show: This recap gives you all the must-know results from a blizzard-battered NFL week, candid takes on key storylines, inside-baseball fan talk, and plenty of humor—whether you’re a football diehard, a Kentucky sports loyalist, or just here for the hot takes on weather, pop culture, and questionable NFL officiating.

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Transcript

[Billy R. Sports]

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[Drew Franklin]

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Welcome in to a new episode of NFL Cover Zero, the Sunday Night Week 14 edition. Drew Franklin here filling in for Matt Jones and our good friend Billy R. Sports, who's in the Producer chair, has slid over into the co host chair to join us for tonight's episode as we recap all the week 14 fun, including a couple snow games that added to the excitement. Before we get to all that, I just want to make a, you know, let everybody know why Matt's not here. We also weren't here Wednesday. We're going to be fine getting through the show without him. But Matt needed some time away. His. His father had a surgery last week, and that came with an une diagnosis after the surgery. And Matt's just needed a little time away to hang with his family as they process that and his dad, Larry recovers. But like I said, we'll get through it. We're thinking about Matt. Hope everything goes there. Well, sorry we missed last week's episode. This all kind of. Last Wednesday's midweek episode, this all kind of came out of nowhere as Matt's dealing with that, but he's been home with them, so I hate that we missed you the middle of last week, but Billy, we got it under control today. We'll handle tonight's episode. We had a lot of fun football. Lots that we can get to in our. In our weekly recap.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's right. Our heart is with Matt during this tough times. We're and your family, Matt. But we got a great slate of games to talk about today, Drew. And there's nothing like sitting on your couch for four, five, six hours at a time. I really do feel like a slob sometimes, but I'm working, Drew. I can't be taken off the couch. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Of course it is a tough assignment to sit and watch football day, but, you know, we'll tough it out. We do that for the league and for this podcast and our NFL Cover Zero listeners. I was actually late getting to my couch. I was in Nashville all weekend. I actually got to listen to my local Titans broadcast for the first quarter or two as I was making my way back. And then my lovely wife, we're about halfway. She was like, want me to take over driving and you can just watch Red Zone in the passenger seat. And I was like, love you so much right now. So I did miss a little bit of the first half of the one o' clock games, but got home in time to catch up with the end of everything and had a good time in Nashville. You know, I know we have a lot of Kentucky listeners from our KSR audience. That's right. That basketball game was bad. But otherwise, Nashville, I had a. There's a lot going on in my Nashville trip. I mean, the basketball was part of it, but just starting right away, I get to my hotel and we pull in it's probably 1:30. We go valet. We're just getting there. We're excitement games at night. Go upstairs. I'm not in my room. 10 minutes, I'm coming right back down. We're just dropping bags, going to meet friends. Come down. And in the 10 minutes from me handing my key to the valet and coming back down, there was a shooting right there in the doorway that included one of the valleys. I come down and literally they're putting up the crime tape as we're walking out the door. Ten minutes into my trip to Nashville. I think everything's okay. In the leg. The. The valet guy.

[Billy R. Sports]

But the valet was shot.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, shot him in the leg. They didn't catch the people. They took off. They had the car and everything. But, I mean, it was. I don't know, I must have missed it by a minute or two because I had just been right in that spot, dropped my car, went straight up and set my suitcase down. And then when I came back, we have a crime scene right at the front door of the hotel.

[Billy R. Sports]

I was going to say Nashville. Usually a great place to drown your sorrows after a bad Kentucky basketball loss, but that just goes to show you there's too many people in Nashville. There's way too many people. Good luck finding a parking spot and then good luck getting around during a busy time there.

[Drew Franklin]

I should know my trip was getting off to a rough start with that. Then I had the basketball game. I don't know if anyone saw on Twitter, but I tried to do karaoke at Miss Kelly's. I love Miss Kelly's. I got booed for being a Kentucky fan because they're full of balls. At one point, the guy even said, boo this man. He's responsible for giving us Will Levis. And I just got off the stage. This is too much. I don't like Tennessee fans as it is now we got Will Levis catching strays. I'm just out here trying to sing that Ain't My Truck Truck with my friends, and it turned into me getting Buddha. The. The. The basketball was the biggest problem. But just the whole trip, I had fun, but there was just a lot going on beyond that.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, it seemed to work as the Titans got a big victory today that I'm sure we'll talk about. I mean, even if Titan fans wanted them to lose so they could get the number one overall pick. But you did bring a little luck to the city, it seems like.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, it is good to get back. I had my fun, and you had the full day of Couch. I did see some because I was a little late getting started. I saw Red zone was a little off to a. To a slow start, apparently. I didn't miss much.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, they was a little bit like K on us with the technical difficulties. They had about like five to seven minutes of audio issues. So much to the point where they switched over to the NFL fantasy red zone to try to give people some audio. But it was. It was okay, though. I was so locked in on the snow game, Cincinnati and Buffalo, that I didn't need to watch Red zone.

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[Billy R. Sports]

I think that's football at its best.

[Drew Franklin]

Snow games are so fun.

[Billy R. Sports]

They are.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, us just being in Buffalo. We were talking about it there with their fans, but, you know, they thought about getting a dome at one point. What are you doing? You're Buffalo. You need snow. Obviously, we'll just start there. That game ended up being great, but snow, even if it hadn't been, you know, come down on the wire the way it did, just something about snow games on tv, it's just special. The Titans Browns had one. It wasn't quite as snowy as the one in Buffalo, but it just adds to the experience.

[Billy R. Sports]

And in Buffalo too. I'm a little jealous we didn't get that snow. I know it was cold when we went, but just the snow in Buffalo is just a different type of field burrow. And Josh Allen, it was a great matchup. I don't know, man. It's just. You see that ball in the air with the snowflakes, it just kind of brings me back a little bit. And then you see guys that, you know, do a little slide when they score a touchdown or a snowball.

[Drew Franklin]

The snow angels were out today.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw one of the players in an interview was like, we're not. We're still kids. Like, yes, I'm doing snow angels. Very unapologetic in my snow angels.

[Billy R. Sports]

Everybody knows where that one hill is in their town, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, I lived on it. I live Oak street in Madisonville. Had the best hill right in front of my house. I miss it. Did you see. I can't remember. One of the Bill's defensive tackles, I believe is Jordan Phillips. Before the game, he was wearing like a Canadian goose down coat with a big hood.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, I did fur around the hood.

[Drew Franklin]

He was wearing it under his jersey in warmups.

[Billy R. Sports]

That would be me. Like, I. There's a lot of tough guys out there. When the snow comes out, Drew, I'm going to need to be bundled up and if I'm not on the field, you would see me on the sideline next to those heaters, those huge heaters that they have.

[Drew Franklin]

So are you. If, let's say in a different world, you made the NFL, you went to.

[Billy R. Sports]

You're still at Western World.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you're at Western. You were a star wide receiver. Big ego, Big arrogant wide receiver, wide receiver, one out there mossing people. You make it to the NFL, you get drafted by Buffalo. Okay, are you the type of player that does like, I'm warming up with my shirt off, you know, just going to show some skin and tough it out? Are you like Jordan Phillips would have. Have his parka on? What kind of, what kind of guy would you be in the snow?

[Billy R. Sports]

You know those like Russian hats that completely cover all of your ears and your head? I think I'd have one of those on underneath my helmet. I would need it. I, I mean, right now I'm a Florida boy and I've got that warm blood. So if, if that stays intact of my storyline here, then there's no way I'm going out and getting goosebumps before the game even starts. Drew, are you going to try to macho it out a little bit?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't, I don't understand these. We get it. You're in the field, you're already tough. We can see you're tough. But these games, when they're at Lambo and it's usually the visiting team trying to show off.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

They get out there, we can see their breath. We know they're cold on the inside. Quit acting all hard. We know it's. We know it's freezing out there. So I would, I would absolutely. I would not do that. I would be more of wearing the Canadian goose. I don't know. Can you, can you just like, wrap yourself in like hand warmers, too? I mean, I would be the weakest guy out there by far.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's right. You see guys that have hand warmers on their belt.

[Colin Coward]

Right?

[Billy R. Sports]

When maybe front or behind. I've got like the heated up squares in my hand warmers. I have to.

[Drew Franklin]

This is. Even if I come out of the locker room at all. So it sounds like we're on the same, same page.

[Billy R. Sports]

We were cold in Buffalo. I mean, and that wasn't the snow game. That was just a little wind. So I imagine Bill's mafia was still out there and doing all their tailgating.

[Drew Franklin]

If I'm going as a fan, I if to somewhere like Buffalo or a Lambo, and I've been fortunate enough to do each of those in the last couple years. Lambeau. I did get a little bit of snow. I want it to be miserable. I want the full experience. I want snow everywhere. I saw there was two guys that drove from like Ohio in the early, early in the morning when we're shoveling snow in Buffalo, like in the stadium to. They called it Josh Allen's wedding gift. But I mean you can't even get to your seats without help. Like these guys from Ohio driving up. I don't know how they got in the stadium. By the way. Do the Bills just open the gates and say come help us shovel all this out?

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, remember, I don't know if it was last year or a couple of years ago. They called on the fans to dig out the players homes. They couldn't get out of their house. And so they had fans do that and come to the stadium as well. And then not on, not only on top of that, we got a great game. Oh, I mean Joe Burrow throws for four touchdowns. Josh Allen's running wild. It was a great comeback.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Josh Allen's 40 yard run, it's just, it's Josh. It's peak Josh.

[Colin Coward]

It was beautiful.

[Drew Franklin]

And even though they've taken some losses that you know they shouldn't have and they're not exactly in the spot where they want to be in the playoff standings, they are in the, in the wild card mix after getting today's win. But it's looking like the Bills are kind of turning it on at the, at the right time. Josh Allen had a great game through three touchdowns, ran for another, that 40 yard one again just in the snow. A Buffalo.

Bills game. Josh Allen that's just like picturesque for the NFL.

[Billy R. Sports]

Right T. Higgins comes back and plays well. Had a great one handed grab but Joe Burrow has these back to back interceptions I believe and it just kind of let the Bills run away with.

[Drew Franklin]

Burrows looks so good before those two interceptions. I mean coming back from injury we wondered why he was even doing it. I mean it looks like a dude who's been playing all season. He's. He's looking great. Except that the back to back ints. I mean poor Bengals fans. You start getting some energy, you start getting life. They could even play off dream a little bit before this week. Still a little unlikely but mathematically they were in it. You have Burrow back Higgins and Chase looking awesome and then that screen pass where he just throws it right into the hands of defender who takes it to the house. Completely flipped the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

No wonder that fan base is so drunk. Drew, I mean, they. They've got to drink to keep up with all these losses that they have. And you're right, they. If they just win a couple of more here or there, they are right in that AFC north hunt. But I. I don't know how to feel about Zach Taylor, what this team should do with him after this season. But, I mean, I feel like things are coming to a head a little bit here.

[Drew Franklin]

Bengals fans are a little. They were tired of him before today. Even that play call where Burrow threw the interception was a little suspect in itself. Just a absolute meltdown when it should have looked like the Bengals were going to hang on and steal one in Buffalo and really turn those dreams into maybe, hey, maybe we will make a playoff push. Chase. Not Chase. Higgins did have a spectacular game, though, in the loss. Some amazing catches. We like to think of the Burrow Chase connection, but Higgins is a wide receiver, one sitting right over there with him, too. He was. He was awesome.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, it was amazing they were able to keep all these guys in the off season and even bring back Trey Hendrickson even though he's been injured. But two touchdowns for Higgins. And meanwhile, Buffalo is, what, the five seed in the AFC playoff hunt now at nine and four. So a big win for them there.

[Drew Franklin]

Scary team with Allen turning it on right at the right time. I thought of one more thing from the. From the snow game that you wanted.

[Billy R. Sports]

To see more Ray Davis, because I did, too.

[Drew Franklin]

I do. I did want to see more Ray Davis. We can't get enough of Ray Davis, who's really been playing well lately, and they don't seem to go to him like they should. I follow some former Bills players on Twitter, former UK guys, and they're constantly like, more Ray Davis. Not just because the Kentucky connection, it's because they know ball and see what he can do, but on the snow. My lovely wife asked me a question, and at first I was like, well, that's silly. Then I really started thinking about it, but there's snow everywhere. But then you can see all the lines and the hash marks and everything. And she was like, is the field heated right there? And I was like, come on, no, that'd be silly. And then I just kind of sat there awkwardly like, wait a minute, that's a pretty good question. Are they out there shoveling that? Because it's very crisp, very clean. Is it just like a crew of guys with their shovels that run out and get that? Because at first I kind of just thought that was one of those silly questions. You get from who, you know, maybe had locked in on football. And I was like, well, maybe it's not the. Not the worst idea, but I don't think they have that in Buffalo. But there was a moment where I was like, how do they get those lines so crisp and clean in the middle of the snow?

[Billy R. Sports]

They need to have them on the new stadiums. That would be a good thing. But I don't think they have them on this old one.

[Drew Franklin]

For a second I said it like I was certain. And then I actually, I might have even googled it like high mark field.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, as much as these like people, these fields can just change in an instant. You'd think that they would have the technologies for this. So maybe so. But. But I think I did hear the announcer say the crew came out and cleaned off the field specifically for this game. And. And that brings back some other memories. Is it the snowplow game that had the guy that came out from the sideline to put a little area so the placeholder and the kicker could kick it. So I mean that now we're going way back.

[Drew Franklin]

What team was that? That was. I got to look this up. He completely cheated and moved on.

[Billy R. Sports]

Is it the Dolphins that ended up doing that? I'm completely looking it up on the fly. The snowplow game because it was like a former convict or something that had came out there. And the rules Pats. Look at that. I'm ring the bell for myself.

[Drew Franklin]

Look at you. The game winning field goal to give the Patriots a three to nothing win. Could have been a three to nothing in that game.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay, I didn't.

[Drew Franklin]

The cheater with a snowplow. Also. I didn't get to bring this up on Thanksgiving, but the Leon Let game that it's like my. One of my worst memories of a young Cowboys fan. Thanksgiving Day. I remember exactly where I was. It's weird how you can remember certain things and not others. I'm probably 8 years old. I think this was 93ish. Kind of doing math on the fly. Regardless, I'm young. I can still right now, over three decades later. Look around the room where everyone was sitting. Just how everything. It was when Leon Lett tried to pick up a fumble against the Dolphins, I believe and completely lost a Thanksgiving game for the Cowboys. Just another snow memory. That's not as positive.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's weird about memories. I was 6 years old Thanksgiving Day. Michael Vick ran around in overtime to beat the Minnesota Vikings in 2001. And I remember that like it was just yesterday. Drew. So I Don't know. Maybe it's those NFL memories that keep your brain sharp.

[Drew Franklin]

The Tuck rule. That was a snow game. Brady and the Raiders, that one stands out. Today's. I don't know we'll reach in that category, but it's a lot of fun, A lot of fun watching them run, run around the snow. But let's get some more games. It's a fun day.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

How about Matt's. Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh Steelers turning it on today. Do you think maybe Matt is also stepping away just because he didn't want to give Aaron Rodgers his praise? I mean, that was Aaron Rodgers best game as a Steeler. Pittsburgh winning 27, 22 over Baltimore. Big for the AFC standings. When we wrote him off just a week or two ago saying he's too old, seasons too long, bodies too banged up. Looked like prime Aaron Rodgers, at least for a day out there.

[Billy R. Sports]

DK Metcalf has a good game. I mean, this is exactly what Mike Tomlin needed to do to respond to all those fans that were booing him the other day. That's not right. This guy's done how many seasons without a losing record? So, I mean, he is continuing to do it. And they now lead the AFC north by one game. But you're right about Aaron Rodgers, man, he played well. 284 yards and a touchdown. And meanwhile, Baltimore is just broken. I don't, I don't know. Lamar may have lost a step.

[Drew Franklin]

I know I keep trying to think or say, you know, they'll turn it on, they'll turn it on. I mean, he had a bad interception today. You mentioned the Tomlin getting booed thing. There was a moment after the game where the TVs caught him. It looked like he blew a little kiss to the camera. You know, Tomlin's not normally that personality. He's that, you know, we just always see that same expression, whether good or bad. He just has that stoic look on his face. But I'm pretty sure he blew a little kiss. That might have been for the haters that were booing him last week because he got a went and got a good road win today. But you're right, is just as Aaron Rodgers story on one end. Lamar, man, bad interception. Yeah, it's. It's just. I don't. Will we have the Lamar that we once saw? Will that Lamar be back? Because the one we're seeing now is not a top tier qb.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Father Time is the only one that's undefeated. Right? And we're only going to get older and older. At this point, you got to wonder what. How long John Harbaugh is going to be the coach of the Ravens, even though, you know, this matchup between him and Tomlin was the two longest tenured coaches in the NFL in the second or the matchup between the coaches of. The longest ever. The second longest, I believe that is. But I don't know. There was a. There's a big controversy in this game too.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah, right. As we're. As we're piling on the Ravens for losing an important game, I will say Isaiah likely had a touchdown. Looked like he had two feet. Where they're down by what, five at this point? Yeah. Driving the field. Few minutes left in the game. Makes the catch two steps in the middle of the end zone. And before his third step, Joey Porter Jr. Knocks the ball away. And they rolled it. An incompletion. And Harbaugh said after the game, the explanation they got was he didn't get the third foot down. Like when do we need three feet? He had both feet down in the middle of the end zone with full control of the ball. It looked like this could have should have been a Ravens win because that should have been a touchdown. In my eyes.

[Billy R. Sports]

In my eyes too. Drew and I work for the NFL and I couldn't explain to somebody what a catch is in the NFL. And that's a problem. That really is a problem. I feel like we have these all the time. I think it does. Bryant, back in the day too, we've seen rule changes. Bird, Emanuel, if you want to go back to the Bucks back in the day. But this is another one that was a little bit questionable. It looked like Isaiah likely got that and then eventually a turnover on downs by the Ravens later in that drive.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, and the Ravens were pretty upset after the game. That play was part of it. Also just, you know, having a losing record at this stage, their frustrations growing, might be the end for them. But that should have been a touchdown. Also, Aaron Rodgers had a catch. See that 42 year old Aaron Rodgers ball gets batted towards him.

It's kind of tough. You know, normally you just want to bat it down. But he had to take the loss there because there's about four Ravens piled around him. But the rare catch by a 42 year old.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I think it was five days ago he turned 42 years old, which is, I mean, the only one to do it past 40 is Tom Brady. And was it Mercedes Lewis who just joined one of the teams as a tight end. So I mean ball over there. It is special watching old men try to keep up with the youngins Drew, and that hits us at all points of our life, right?

[Drew Franklin]

That's right. That's right. Maybe me one day. So Steelers looking like a playoff team?

[Billy R. Sports]

No, but somebody's got to make the playoffs out of that division. So I still think if there was enough time, Cincinnati would be that team. But I think it's going to be Pittsburgh by default here.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Cincinnati fell to 4 and 9 today when Pittsburgh 7 and 6. Just really stellar records there in the AFC north, but huge win for them getting over the Ravens. They hold on, but there's still a lot of football left. There's only one back one, one game back. If they'll start counting their touchdowns as touchdowns and Lamar can throw stop throwing interceptions, maybe they'll have life. But not today. Steelers got the dub and I know Matt, if you're listening out there, we're happy for you and Aaron Rodgers.

[Billy R. Sports]

Just tearing him up today, watching these games that Aaron Rodgers is having that success and he couldn't talk about it today.

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[Billy R. Sports]

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Drew Franklin]

Well, just as he's disappointed that Aaron Rodgers had a big game, I'm just as disappointed that my Tennessee Titans had a big game.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh come on, they've they win their second game of the year. You should be happy.

[Drew Franklin]

Another snow game snowing in Cleveland for the Cam Ward Chador Sanders battle. Here I am with my one win Titans thinking man we're just going to lose out, get that number one pick, then trade that, really get this rebuild going. And they went and played really well winning 3129 offense looking kind of good. I will say Billy, I was I was all in on the tank, but I was pretty happy to see him win because it's seeing a little bit of progress seeing Cam Ward, seeing some of the young Receivers, defense, shoulder. Had a big game but I wasn't as upset as I thought I was when I was. When. When I was all in on the tank before they won.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, that was against a good defense. Right? I mean Cleveland has Miles Garrett who's going to break the all time sack record in a single season this year. So I mean that was impressive. Tony Pollard has a career high in rushing yards. So yeah, exactly what you wanted to see from Cam Ward as people have started to have discussions about him and how good he could really be with Will Levis on the bench.

[Drew Franklin]

But that's Pollard's maybe best game. He's.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, no doubt. But you know I was, I was all about shoulder there for the first three quarters. I mean it was wrist in the air. 360 yards is a 300 passing yard game before Drake May. I mean this guy was dumping it off with the best of them.

[Drew Franklin]

Well did you see after he threw the touchdown to Harold Fannin Jr. By.

[Billy R. Sports]

The way from Bowling Green.

[Drew Franklin]

That's another thing.

[Billy R. Sports]

He was great.

[Drew Franklin]

The Browns came back and almost tied it up and Harold Fannin Jr. Of all people caught the touchdown to put him in down two. They didn't get the two point conversion by the way to jump on that. The two point conversion. Don't even have a quarterback in the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

What a wild call.

[Drew Franklin]

Guerrero was doing everything. Had four touchdowns, three, three throwing, three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. He's throwing up the watch and then you don't even put him in on the two point conversion.

[Billy R. Sports]

The running back wasn't ready for it either.

[Drew Franklin]

No, that was absolute disaster. I didn't know what they were trying to do but it was pretty cool for Shadur. I've found myself rooting for him. I mean in this game it is what it is. I'm obviously conflicted of do I want to win or not win. I'm happy my young guys are looking good. Mike McCoy might actually be a decent coach. I'm not saying keep him but it just shows bad Brian Callahan was before they got rid of him. But sure door. It was pretty neat seeing him have a big moment. I ran right up to big Jeff and put it in his face. The watch.

[Billy R. Sports]

He sure did.

[Drew Franklin]

He sought him out and put it right in his face.

[Billy R. Sports]

Now what he's not miming to the reporters in the locker room. I am rooting for him. I don't know if it's the narrative of like Stefanski wasn't giving him a game ball because the team doesn't like him and things like that, which is obviously not true, I hope, but I mean, that's a guy that's got the, a lot of pressure on him, the world on his shoulders. And for him to have any success, I think would, would go a long way to proving a lot of people wrong. But that was just an odd game. And now Tennessee is not in the driver's seat for the number one overall pick. It's the Giants now.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think we fell to three and we had it right there. Just, just keep losing.

[Billy R. Sports]

Can I talk about the Giants for a second?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you can talk about whatever you.

[Billy R. Sports]

Want to talk about because they were on a buy this week, but Jameis Winston was a guest analyst on the Fox Sports NFL Countdown. Drew, did you see any of this?

[Drew Franklin]

I saw tweets about it. I just didn't watch it. But I love Jameis. What all did he have to say?

[Billy R. Sports]

Jameis could run for probably president. I think that people would vote for him. He's my guy, being a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan. But I got a 20 second clip for you.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, I get to hear it. Look at this producing here.

[Billy R. Sports]

Let's just listen a little bit.

[Drew Franklin]

Ever since Liam Cohen has been getting recommendations on how to pronounce.

The right way he went.

[Billy R. Sports]

Duval, how would you. How would you pronounce it?

[Julian Edelman]

James, what's your Broadway one?

[Colin Coward]

They all were.

[Drew Franklin]

The New York got to me, but I got the jacks. You got the jack.

[Billy R. Sports]

A little falsetto and just. That was just 20 seconds. Drew, imagine a whole two hours with Jameis Winston. It was great.

[Drew Franklin]

So when he retires, maybe the end of this year, just straight to tv.

[Billy R. Sports]

Put him on or politician man.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, I need him. I need him doing that on my pregame shows. I don't care what network he goes to. Just put a microphone in. Jameis Winston.

[Billy R. Sports]

He did like a pregame hype up speech with the other Fox Sports people to parody off the eating the W's and things like that. So I mean, the guy just has the best personality. And whether it be writing books or motivational speaking, whatever he'll do after this. Like you said, maybe in the booth.

[Drew Franklin]

Better be in the booth.

[Billy R. Sports]

These former players get jobs immediately, so why not him?

[Drew Franklin]

You mentioned Duvall or he mentioned Duvall. Just go there next.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Big shake up in the AFC South. Colts, once a hot team started 7 and 1. Have now lost four of their last five in Jacksonville controls their own destiny in the AFC South. Whooped him pretty good today. 36 to 19. Do you see Liam Cohen in the locker room? I know we talk about these videos. He was fired up though. Could be a coach of the year candidate. There we're watching. He's got the Jags looking good. Trevor Lawrence had a big game, 250 yards, two touchdowns. Travis at the end, two touchdowns. Jags looking good. Colts looking not so good. Tough injury though, for Daniel Jones. A non contact injury. Dropping back, went straight down. They're calling it Achilles injury. I mean, their quarterback rumor with Anthony Richardson still out from his, you know, was it band? What was he doing?

[Billy R. Sports]

Injury. Yeah, Slingshotted his eye.

This is bizarre at this point. I mean, Indianapolis started 7 and 1 and they've lost four of their last five. They have one quarterback on their roster. If they're not going to have Daniel Jones, that was Riley Leonard who came in today. Besides one quarterback they have on their practice squad, they don't have another quarterback on the roster because Anthony Richardson is hurt. So, I mean, this was the darling of the NFL and according to Matt, Daniel Jones, MVP candidate.

[Drew Franklin]

And now, not anymore.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean, they're not even. I mean, they're the seventh seat right now in the afc.

[Drew Franklin]

That's crazy to have been as hot as they were. I mean, we were all. Everybody was. Couldn't believe how good the Colts started. Going seven to one. They had that run without even punting. Their owner's been fun. I saw today, though, she's still awesome. She was over, you know, this is. It was a road game, right? She's over in the crowd, like. Like people are just handing her phone down and she's taking selfies. And it wasn't like one or two. I even saw the tweet of the video that saw said that she stuck around and anyone that wanted a photo or an autograph, she made sure they got it. So I know her team has gone the other direction, but she's been a fun, fun, you know, kind of side story there in the Colts. So she's really gotten involved with that team.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, I'm just glad that's the conversation around her. But meanwhile, for Jacksonville, I mean, this was huge for them. This is the 11th straight year they've beaten Indianapolis at four. Think about that.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, wow. I didn't know.

[Billy R. Sports]

11 years in a row they have taken care of business with the hot tubs around them to beat Indianapolis. So maybe we should have saw this coming. But for Jacksonville, now they're the three seed, they're nine and four. And Trevor Lawrence, who this was a big year for, is proving some of those doubters wrong, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I wasn't really sure on Trevor Lawrence. He's hasn't lived up to, you know, kind of the hype as, as he was drafted, but up and down year a little bit. But I think he and Cohen have worked well together for the most part and obviously they're looking like a playoff team and could win this division if they hang. So he might still be the future in Jacksonville.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah. And the jets have to like the two first round picks they got for Sauce Gardner now. Probably going to get a little better if the Colts start losing more games.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you, you went out and got Sauce Gardner for a win now immediately got to get it going and it's gone the other way and then, then.

[Billy R. Sports]

You'Ve been losing all these games and it's not.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it's not his fault. I mean that the team has big problems. But you, you make that deal thinking you're going to make a big push in the playoffs and it has gone the complete opposite direction. What game we got next? Little Vikings commanders.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean let's talk as quick as that game was Drew, because it was the quickest game in the NFL this year. Only 2 hours and 40 minutes and Jaden Daniels got jacked up. If you used to watch that segment back in the day.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh yeah, we can't do that segment anymore. You know, I was back when they were hitting a little harder and it.

[Billy R. Sports]

Was going to be a flag. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And there's a couple though. I remember Reggie Bush was on an awful wrong end of a hit on an old jacked up session. But yeah, Jaden Daniels today, another injury to him and to just get completely shut out. Tough loss. But I was looking at another angle with this. Oh, what did you say? Your boy J.J. mcCarthy. I mean.

[Billy R. Sports]

You mean nine.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Excuse me, nine.

[Billy R. Sports]

Nine on game days.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I'm not going to say what you called him earlier in the year, but you don't think he's that good of a quarterback. But I feel like today we at least have to acknowledge you had a big game, three touchdowns.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's great. Happy for JJ.

[Drew Franklin]

You're not turning a corner on JJ you know.

[Billy R. Sports]

You know he had nine interceptions in six games I believe. So let's pump the brakes a little bit. This Minnesota team is, is not good. They, I think they have some sellers remorse after not resigning Sam Donald. But this was, this was his moment. I think Justin Jefferson is probably the biggest loser in all this. This is somebody that was going in the top five picks of people's fantasy leagues and he had two catches for 11 yards today, Drew. So it's just. It's been rough for him.

[Drew Franklin]

I will have to compliment his attitude. He's the opposite of A.J. brown. Did you see what he said after the game?

[Billy R. Sports]

No. What do you say?

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, you know, he's down, that he's not putting numbers he wants. I mean, let's not be crazy. But he was like, we're winning. You know, if we win, it's fine.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's the right answer.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. That's not what some other people, especially in that position would say. But even I hope he means it. I don't know. But at least he's saying it and putting on a front because that was a big win for them, even though he was a very, very small and insignificant part of it.

[Billy R. Sports]

Not apologizing to nine yet. I just feel bad for Jaden Daniels, man. He was what, rookie of the year and went in playoff games against my Bucks. And you know, injuries have really hurt this team with Austin eckler and Taylor McLaurin out for a long time too. So this is a tough season for them.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, how about the other injury in this game? Zach Ertz. Oh, my goodness. That knee kind of caught him in the air. Defender goes low. That looked horrible. I don't know. You know, he's been in the league over a decade now. Makes you wonder if he's even going to be able to come back from that or if that was the last time we saw him. The look on his face might have suggested he knew too, but just a. Daniel's hit was bad, but I mean, that was a nasty season ender for Zach Hertz too.

[Billy R. Sports]

Did a flip in the air. You saw Mario obviously emotional next to him afterwards. You knew it was serious. That's a guy that was really good with Philadelphia back in the day. And you're right, he's got a ring getting up there in age. So multi year Pro Bowler and I mean, he was the only one that they had there for a while with all their receivers getting hurt besides Debo.

[Drew Franklin]

So gets. It just gets getting worse for the Commanders. Three wins this year and you get shut out by the Vikings. The Vikings first shut out in 18 years and they're the first team since 1992 to get shut out. And then a week later, producer shutout.

[Billy R. Sports]

Wow. Since 92, it's been a while since that.

[Drew Franklin]

What a turnaround to go from. All right, we're just going to get shut out next week. We'll shut somebody out. They lost 26 nothing at Seattle last week and then win 31 zero today.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, it literally could not get worse after their last game, so it's all up from here.

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[Drew Franklin]

And started talking about me and I.

[Billy R. Sports]

Was like what is going on here?

[Drew Franklin]

My wife beat cancer too and I wanted to celebrate his special moment.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's Bill, a real United pilot.

[Drew Franklin]

We brought him drinks and donuts. We all signed a car hard. I was smiling ear to ear.

[Billy R. Sports]

Best flight ever for sure.

[Drew Franklin]

That's how good leads the way.

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[Drew Franklin]

Let's get to the other exciting game. I know you're fired up about the Dolphins Jets. Okay.

[Billy R. Sports]

I didn't think that's where you were.

[Drew Franklin]

Speaking of apologies, I think we owe Mike McDaniel apology. I believe we talked about him getting fired on the first five or six Sunday night shows this season. Expecting on Monday to get the news. But to his credit, you know, I mean they're not going to be in the playoffs doing any real contending, but they're still playing for him and they're on a little bit of a run here. 34:10. I know it's the Jets. Not the biggest, biggest opponent you can play in the NFL these days, but I mean a 34 point day and another win for the Dolphins. You got to tip your cap for the guy that we thought was on the hottest seat in the league.

[Billy R. Sports]

No, they rebounded. They've, they've played well. If they weren't in the afc, they might even have a shot to make the playoffs. But you know, HN is a touchdown machine. He got hurt, but I think he's going to be fine moving forward and, and Tua. Just stay healthy, buddy. Just, just stay out there and maybe put a guardian cap on. I'd love to see that from him every time he can finish the game. It's a, it's a win for the Dolphins no matter what the score is.

[Drew Franklin]

We got the good Brady Cook to a showdown with a little bit of tyrod.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, the poor Jets. I believe I heard red zone say that the jets almost went the entire first half without a first down. I think they got one with like a minute left.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, they had. Was it like a pun or a kick return touchdown? And that allowed Aaron Glenn to run down the sideline. That's all he's been able to do this year, is score on special teams plays. But that's the Jets. I mean, did you expect a complete turnaround in year one of a new coach? Probably not, no.

[Drew Franklin]

And they officially missed the playoffs today. Not that, you know, I think we knew for a while, but 15 straight years without the playoffs. It's the longest drought by any team in pro season. Not just the longest drought in the NFL. Throw in NBA, mlb, you name it. The jets are on sports.

[Billy R. Sports]

It's the longest playoff.

[Drew Franklin]

Their longest drought, 15 years.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, now I feel a little bad for. Was it fireman Ed and the. The fan base there? Giants hold the number one overall pick. Jets are out of the playoffs. There's just. They're. They're a pair made for each other.

[Drew Franklin]

I root for a team that's not very good, but we at least had a decent run a few years ago, made it the AFC championship. You know, the Derek Henry experience. Had Chris Johnson before that. Of course, I can go back to Steven. You know, Titans have had some good years, even though overall bad experience. Jets fans, man, I don't know how they get up and do it every day. Like, at some point I would just be like, I can't keep doing it 15 years, no more.

[Billy R. Sports]

I remember my boy Namath making those plays through the last time I was happy in my life. I mean, you got to think there's some jets fans out there that that's what they think of. I mean, what's the other thing that they would think of? Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez, AFC Championship game. Like, I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

It's just a tough existence for them. And it doesn't look like it's getting any better. I don't know if Brady Cook was going to come in and rally the troops now.

[Billy R. Sports]

Get ready to draft a quarterback again, I'm sure.

[Drew Franklin]

Where does that game rank on all the favorites you watch today?

[Billy R. Sports]

Little Jets, Dolphins probably last. But I am happy for McDaniels. He's kind of got like the swagger I would have if I was an NFL coach. I mean, if you had to pick one coach that maybe looked like me the most, it might be him.

[Drew Franklin]

You do look a little like Mike James.

[Billy R. Sports]

So every time Matt starts his McDaniels talk with, what a dork. That shouldn't be an NFL coach, I, you know, maybe shed a tear winning some games.

[Drew Franklin]

Speaking of shedding tears, your Bucks. What the hell, man? The Saints. What are we doing?

[Billy R. Sports]

I saw this game coming from a Mile away. Drew, we did not do a survivor pool pick this week. If we would have, I would have picked the Saints. And you might think I'm lying, but I got a little story time for you, drew.

[Drew Franklin]

Really?

[Billy R. Sports]

In 2002, the Buccaneers won the Super Bowl. I went to two games that year. It was the first game of the year against the six. And then we went to New Orleans for a Monday Night football matchup against the Saints. Saints ones. Saints won both of those games. True, both of them. The year the Bucks won the Super Bowl, I went to two games. They were both losses to the Saints. This is was set up from a mile away. I could see the Bucks losing this game to Tyler Shuck in the terrible Saints. Tampa's now lost five of their last seven, and they were starting a tackle from Nigeria who majored in cyber security at Georgia State last year. Drew undrafted, they picked him up for the league minimum because they've gotten so many injuries. It was embarrassing and Baker played a terrible game. So I don't, I don't know. I mean, is angry enough for you?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, there was a moment, you know, Baker wasn't good, but your boy Booker had a horrible drop down 7. He's wide open in the end.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean, throwing it any better.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, it was just a little soft toss to him. I mean, that's, that's your stud young receiver. And that absolutely caused him. Could have tied it up there and then they don't end up scoring again. Maybe they got a field goal, but I mean, that was their big shot to, to stay in the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

He's been bad the last few weeks. He started so good, started so good, but he's been really bad. And I don't know if that's because Mike Evans hasn't been playing and they've become much more one dimensional, but he has been bad. And now I've hit the panic button. I mean, they're tied with Carolina. They play them two of the last three weeks. Carolina just played beat the Rams, the best team in the NFL you could argue right now. So I am officially worried. But we'll see how much of a gamer Baker is. And if he can drag these guys to the finish line, this is going to be one of the more bigger collapses for the season. It'd be almost like the Colts, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Baker versus Tyler Shuck. I did not have Tyler Shuck winning that battle or having 55 yards rushing.

[Billy R. Sports]

And two touchdowns throw for a touchdown, but ran for two.

[Drew Franklin]

The long, the 30 yarder. I mean.

I was like what in the hell are the Bucks doing? Then he ran over you at the goal line to get in. I mean, that's a rookie. Tyler Schuck at home.

[Billy R. Sports]

At home in a game they needed, man. This is a divisional game at home. Disgusting performance. Todd Bowles should be embarrassed. He's a defensive coach and he's. And he's got Tyler Schuck running all over him.

[Drew Franklin]

So I think you're more than a touchdown favorite.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yep, they were. And it is really sad when the Bucks are losing a game and they fire the cannons. I mean, I love firing the cannons, but when you fire the cannons, you're losing to the Saints. And it's. It's in doubt. It's. It is a sad moment.

[Drew Franklin]

Had a little rain. Rain couldn't even stop the.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, it's porn. Porn. At that game, we talk about how.

[Drew Franklin]

The snow made the Bills, Bengals games. Even better. The rain in this one. And even Jacksonville just kind of.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, you get a glimpse every now and then of the camera angle, and it really shows you how much it's raining. These cameras are so good. You don't really see. See most of the time. And then you get a glimpse and it's just porn. Cats and dogs out there. But that's just another normal afternoon in Tampa. That's. That's the home field advantage. They have as much as the Bills have the snow.

[Drew Franklin]

So you got Panthers or Atlanta, then the Panthers, then the Dolphins, then the Panthers. Come on.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay. I'm worried about.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, if you're going to do anything, you can't really ask for a better run than Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers.

[Billy R. Sports]

No, they're set up. And it's been tough these last seven games. That's maybe why they're five of their last seven. But even if they were to make the playoffs, I'm just. They're too banged up and Mike Evans ain't going to break the record. It's. It might be the end of a streak of consecutive division titles. I think they've won four in a row, so that would be sad.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, there's another big shakeup in the nfc. A little bit bigger rivalry than Bucks, Panthers or Bucks is there. What we got the Bears, packers today. Always a great game. It was this one. No different than the rest. I wish Matt were here to. To get his thoughts because he's had this Bears excitement, but they took the loss today. Losing by a touchdown, but they were in it. Caleb William drives down the field, down by seven. Get right around the red zone and just a bad Interception completely under through his target there in the end zone for an INT to lose the game. Tough way to end it for him. And the Bears dropped from the one seed to the seven seed.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Shows you how crazy the NFC in that division are right now. Lions right behind them. But the Bears play the packers again in a couple of weeks. They have a chance to get them back, but a big swing in the NFC playoff picture with that game in Lambeau today.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah. Almost felt like a playoff game, these two teams being so high up in the rankings. Jordan Love has been pretty impressive for the packers over the last two weeks. And yeah, I mean, normal night, this would be all about Matt Fanning over Caleb Williams and how he's the quarterback of the future. He made a bad throw that last play. Really bad. DJ Moore, wide open, could have strolled into the end zone, ended up throwing that interception. Nevertheless, though, had to come back to reality a little bit, right? I mean, nine and three before this game. Keep that up. So, I mean, this was expected. This was in Lambeau, too. But these two teams looked good. The packers defense looked good. This is a team that's getting hot at the right time. When I talk about greenback. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And I don't think it says anything too bad about the Bears. I mean, they're in it. You just have the bad throw at the end. I think they're still excited and can, like, say, can get them back coming up and maybe flip things again. But you're right about Love. He started really bad and turned it on. I think he was like 11 for 15 in the second half as they started. Finally get some touchdowns on the board there. Packers just kind of. Not quietly, but right there in the mix where we thought it'd be. They have that odd, like, tie with the Cowboys that just throws off the standings even more. I hate that. I don't know why it should bother me like it does, but just having that little one on their record throws me off. But that's. That's one of your NFC contenders.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, in Green Bay is. Is what beaten Minnesota, Detroit, and now Chicago in three straight weeks. So, I mean, they have taken control of that division. Even though the tie, it is odd. It just doesn't look right when you look at the standings. I don't know. My brain didn't know how the process is it. Maybe because I'm an American, Drew. And there shouldn't be ties in the NFL. Just keep them out there. Maybe more people want to see football. But anyway, that was a good matchup. And like, you Said we'll see it again.

[Drew Franklin]

So they haven't slate coming up. They go to Denver. The Packers.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

They go to Denver. Hot team right now. Then they have that game in Chicago Bears going to back then the Ravens, although we don't know what version the Ravens will be. And then of course, they end with number nine and JJ McCarthy, which will be absolutely tough to wrap up.

[Billy R. Sports]

I want to talk about lafleur for a second because wasn't he with the Titans at one point or like he's an old Titan. Okay, good. He is somebody that drops the challenge flag instead of throwing it. And I don't like that.

[Drew Franklin]

Drew, I'm with you. Thank you for bringing that up. If it were me, I'm throwing that thing as far as I can.

[Billy R. Sports]

I'm chucking it like. So he did great. He won two challenges today, so he actually got a third. So he was. He was doing pretty well, but he just like, hey, refs, come over here. And then. And then drops it. Make sure that they see it. I'm not doing that. I'm chucking that thing.

[Drew Franklin]

We also got a little bit of a blow by with him and Ben Johnson after the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

Chicago 0 and 1 Since Ben Johnson took his shirt off in the locker room.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, man, what a stat. Is that a next gen stat? Is that our next gen stat of the night?

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, we had the coin toss stat for Carolina that we tracked for a while, and then Ben Johnson takes his shirt off. I don't know if you saw that story. A Chicago hot dog restaurant, the wiener service. Cole said that ever takes his shirt off. In a post game locker room talk, they would give a hot dog to everybody in Chicago and he did. And then this past week, they had to give out hot dogs. But I'm just saying. Owen1 since that moment.

[Drew Franklin]

Drew, do you like Chicago dogs? Like pickles and tomatoes and onions.

[Billy R. Sports]

I had my first with you just a couple weeks ago.

[Drew Franklin]

That was your first Chicago dog.

[Billy R. Sports]

And that was not in Chicago.

[Drew Franklin]

No, that was in middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.

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[Drew Franklin]

Were we on our way to Buffalo.

[Billy R. Sports]

In relish that was algae. Bright green that I don't know if tasted exactly like relish should.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I don't think that was real relish. So it looked like it was made in a factory.

[Billy R. Sports]

Maybe we can make a trip to a Bears game one time because that's Matt's team and we got to check off all our teams. Right. And we can get a Chicago dog.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe Ben Johnson keep his shirt on.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, if they want to start winning again.

[Drew Franklin]

Got me one of Chicago dog. How about the Broncos Raiders? There's another big game.

I, I don't think Broncos just keep winning.

[Billy R. Sports]

I don't think they're good though.

[Drew Franklin]

But we keep saying that and then the next week they win again. At some point we just got like they're good at ten in a row.

[Billy R. Sports]

At ten in a row. And I don't think they're good. Which is, which is a strange thing to say. I mean, I don't know if Sean Payton just gets these guys together. They play well as a unit, but like I see Bo Nicks, I see a rookie running back and RJ Harvey. I mean, I don't even see a dominant receiver in Troy Franklin and Cortland Sutton yet. They have won 10 games in a row.

[Drew Franklin]

They have beat up some bad teams in that 10 game stretch. I mean, they have some good wins too. Just getting Kansas City a few weeks ago, but you know, know, Raiders aren't the world beaters out there. Speaking of beats, there's a little bit of bad beat in this game, a.

[Billy R. Sports]

Little bit of controversy in this.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, I kind of caught the Twitter rundown after it happened. Were you watching in real time?

[Billy R. Sports]

I was, yeah. So it was a 10 point game. Less than a minute left. The Raiders are out of timeouts. It is over. At this point, the Raiders are tackled inbounds. There's less than 10 seconds left, but one of the players for Denver kind of sits on the Raiders player. And so they call delay again.

[Drew Franklin]

Game.

[Billy R. Sports]

And so they move the ball up. The clock is stopped because of this. And with five seconds left, Pete Carroll sends out the field goal unit to kick a field go. So the clocks hit zero. The Raiders kicker makes the field goal and they cover the spread of seven and a half. Eight and a half depending on where you got it.

[Drew Franklin]

I wasn't partaking in this. I enjoy a bad beat from afar when it doesn't involve me. Yeah, sound like a tough one. I saw few people online were pretty upset about it.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, yeah, that was one that Scott Van Pelt will be recapping on a sports center here in a couple days or so. You know, watching the Raiders is always so humbling for me because I, I always come to the realization of players I have never heard before.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean them all for the first time.

[Billy R. Sports]

Jack Besh led the Raiders in receiving today. Six receptions for 50 years and never heard or have seen of Jack Besh.

[Drew Franklin]

He's a rookie, right? They called his name a lot today.

[Billy R. Sports]

And then Kenny Pickett comes out of nowhere to be the backup for Geno Smith. And I had. I had forgotten Kenny Pickett after his fake slide for Pitt back in the day. That or maybe even in the NFL. He did the fake slide. There was a bunch of arguments there. So it's always like who's in the NFL? Who plays at the highest level? I always am remembering that there are more athletes that I don't know when I watch the Raiders.

[Drew Franklin]

No, Raiders have lost 11 straight games in their division. That's kind of sad for a team that used to come with, you know, 11 straight. As you know, you can't be losing 11 straight. Yeah.

[Billy R. Sports]

What are you doing, Tom?

[Drew Franklin]

You got to fix this, Pete.

[Billy R. Sports]

You're a minority owner at this point.

[Drew Franklin]

I was going to ask you. You kind of already answered it for me. But I will say so we're not not believing in the Broncos, the 1 seed, 10 straight wins.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, the.

[Drew Franklin]

What do they got to do?

[Billy R. Sports]

Billy, the conclusion you and Matt had at the end of the last episode we did was there are no good teams. Like there is nobody that's great this year that could run away with it. And when I look at quarterback play, I just. Bo Nicks doesn't hold up to me for an 11 and 2 team. And Denver's defense isn't that good. I mean not that dominant. They're pretty decent. But so I don't know where those. They win those close games. So like seven or eight games, one.

[Drew Franklin]

Score games, five straight games, touchdown or less.

[Billy R. Sports]

So I mean that's valuable. That is valuable experience moving forward. But I'm not a believer. No. Well, I wasn't. Tim Tebow was there.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, I don't know what else you want him to do. They just keep.

[Billy R. Sports]

You remember that Tebow game.

[Drew Franklin]

I do remember that Tebow game.

[Billy R. Sports]

And throw against Pittsburgh for 80 yards. Demarius Thomas.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh.

Kind of double deep.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

That's just feels like you're going through it over there thinking about that T bone.

[Billy R. Sports]

I love that stuff.

[Drew Franklin]

What about that Tebow haircut back in the day when he got the halo. Oh yeah. Initiation.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

There's always think about that stuff there. This game was last Thursday and I meant to bring it up after the Bears, packers, but the Lions. Cowboys also big for the nfc. Lions I think might have been my NFC championship pick at the beginning of the year. If I didn't say them. They. They were at the front of my brain. Them or the Packers. I can't remember which one I went with, but they're looking to be in a Little bit trouble. They did beat the Cowboys, which helped still farther down the standings. Won 44 to 30 last Thursday night.

Cowboys. There was a moment where on an offensive pass interference at the end zone had a touchdown that would have given a better chance, but they go on to lose by two touchdowns. Can't make a big deal out of that. Gibbs just had a great game.

[Billy R. Sports]

What was Pickens is problem? I saw somebody online, said they told him before the game he was getting the franchise tag and that's why he played so poorly. I mean, that's a, that's a guy that's going to get paid, by the way. I mean, if he can make it to free agency, he's going to make a ton of money. But you know, CD Lamb got hurt. You know, Pickens wasn't himself. I mean, that was, that should have been a big game for Dallas to keep their playoff hopes alive. And maybe that kind of put a fork in him there.

[Drew Franklin]

He had to cool off at some point because he had been so hot. But, you know, 37 yards, no scores for an offense that's been just absolutely spectacular. Even in losses, Prescott's been throwing it around. They just didn't have it much that game. Brandon Aubrey, though, best kicker ever.

[Billy R. Sports]

He's good.

[Drew Franklin]

He's unbelievable. And it's not just like, oh, he made it. Like if you took, if you measured how centered his kicks were, I think they're perfectly centered. Every time he kicks a field goal.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, he made a 60 yarder, didn't he?

[Drew Franklin]

He had three kicks that were 55 yards or more. That's never happened before. Three made field goals from that far. Yeah. 63 yarder.

[Billy R. Sports]

He's a weapon. Greg Little or Cam Little, one of the two. He's a weapon for Jacksonville. We've talked about the kicking balls changing the game, but when you're in field goal range like before you pass midfield, you're changing the sport, Drew. And I think that's part of why me and I think even Matt would want the kicking balls to go away. What about you?

[Drew Franklin]

I love watching Brandon Aubrey kick though. I'm kind of with you on the kicking balls. But he's just so automatic. It's unbelievable. Even at 63 yarder, could have gone in from 70.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah. All these 60 yards, I feel like have five more yards than what they actually are, which is wild. We'll have 70 yarders here in about two or three years.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Golf 300 yard game for him. Prescott almost had 400 yards even though they didn't get the win St. Brown had a big game. Lions, Lions needed that one. I know the Cowboys had some life and as a Cowboys a secondary, Cowboys fans, we were starting to dream. But still six, six. They got that ugly one like we said with the packers. That tie just hanging out on their record. But a big one for the Lions to get their eighth win and stay in the mix.

[Billy R. Sports]

And Dan Campbell must have just been staying up at night wondering why Gibbs wasn't getting the ball enough and that's why he took over play calling duties and that's why we've seen Gibbs just been phenomenal recently as. What do you have in this one?

[Drew Franklin]

Three touchdowns.

[Colin Coward]

Three.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, one. A ton of yards but three scores broke off a big one. So yeah, they're finally remembering that they have Gibbs on their team after he had a quiet pick few weeks. But yeah, there's a little Lions, Cowboys talk.

[Billy R. Sports]

But Dallas probably out, right? I mean they're not coming back.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Let me see who Dallas has left, but I can't imagine. Well, they. They play JJ McCarthy, your boy up next. Then they Chargers. Actually wait a minute. Vikings, Chargers, commanders, Giants.

[Billy R. Sports]

What I mean, well, hold on. Okay, so that makes them at what, 10, 6 and 1 if they were to win.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. The dream still laugh would have helped winning Thursday. But their wins against the Chiefs and Eagles right before taking that loss really helped them to go 2 and 1 in that run of Eagles. Chiefs line is still good even though they took the loss.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, those are big wins for them. So I don't know, maybe there is a chance. You're saying there's a chance?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to speak it into existence.

[Billy R. Sports]

I know that's your second team.

[Drew Franklin]

So you got a happy wife, happy life. She loves the Cowboys. Isn't that how it goes? It is.

[Billy R. Sports]

But then you have the NSC west that has all those Titans that might keep out the team like the Colts.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Billy R. Sports]

Or the Cowboys. Excuse me.

[Drew Franklin]

There's also tough NFC teams like the Seahawks. How about them today? 37, nine.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah. Yeah. That was a six. Six game at halftime. And then Seattle just ran away with it. Jackson Smithing, Jibba had what, two touchdowns in this game. He's. He's great.

[Drew Franklin]

We already knew him. He's the best receiver in the league by far.

[Billy R. Sports]

He is. And he's incredible year still looking at 2,000 yards and it's. It's amazing how little Seattle throws. Like if you were to look actual next gen stats which we don't have right now.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, you did. You had the Ben Johnson zone once and Taking his shirt off. That was next gen.

[Billy R. Sports]

It was also the trial one though. Like we couldn't get past the paywall for the.

[Drew Franklin]

We got to get you on the other side of that paywall.

[Billy R. Sports]

It's a big option.

[Drew Franklin]

Wink, wink.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, that's right. But another win for them. Sam Darnold turned it on late. Atlanta, I feel like is more of the story in this game and what has happened to them.

[Drew Franklin]

Robinson had a bad fumble. I mean, Kurt Cousins is your corner. He had two interceptions.

[Billy R. Sports]

They paid him a lot of money to throw those interceptions though.

[Drew Franklin]

Like paid him a lot of money. Then drafted someone right after him who doesn't play now.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, I think this might be it for Raheem Morris.

[Drew Franklin]

I Kyle Pitts look good. They have one something, one thing to.

[Billy R. Sports]

Be excited about and talk about somebody that was overdrafted in Kyle Pitts, man, how many different guys that they could have had besides him these last three or four years.

[Drew Franklin]

So Seahawks kind of have a nasty defense too. I mean, we think about how well Sam Darnold's playing and Jackson, Smith and Jigby the year he's having. But they forced three turnovers today. They kind of have some of that tenacity back that they had when they were, you know, in their prime back in the Russell Wilson era.

[Billy R. Sports]

Good special teams unit too. One of their kicker is one of the best in the league. Did they have a return touchdown in this game? Maybe that was the defense doing all the scoring, but.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, they had a. I'm going to try to say his name. Nick Emin worry believe he's a South Carolina. He's a rookie second round pick. He had, let me get this right, he had an interception, a sack, a block field goal and a tackle for loss today. That's pretty good defense.

That's a pretty good day, Rook.

[Billy R. Sports]

That's like you getting close on your contract incentives type of day. You know what I mean? That is, that is a great one for Seattle, but you know.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think I walked straight into the My boss's office. Yeah, I need money now.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, look, they need to enjoy it because the playoffs will come around and Sam Darnold will turn into playoffs and Darnold and it'll be one and done for Seattle.

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[Billy R. Sports]

This is a real good story about Drew, a real United Airlines customer. After almost four years of treatments, I was finally cancer free. My mom's like where do you want to go to celebrate? I'm like let's go somewhere tropical. And then pilot hopped on intercom and.

[Drew Franklin]

Started talking about me and I was.

[Billy R. Sports]

Like what is going on here?

[Drew Franklin]

My wife beat cancer too and I wanted to celebrate. Celebrate his special moment.

[Billy R. Sports]

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[Drew Franklin]

We brought him drinks and donuts. We all signed a card. I was smiling ear to ear.

[Billy R. Sports]

Best flight ever for sure.

[Drew Franklin]

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[Drew Franklin]

Well, we've been talking a lot about the nfc. See Seahawks good and Cowboys fighting Bears, Packers. Are any of them beating the Rams? That offense is so fun to watch. They won today, played the Cardinals 45 17. But Stafford, and now a Pukinukua back and healthy. He had a huge game. Devonte Adams it's like he and Stafford have been teammates forever with the connection they have. That offense is just so fun. They had like 550 yards today.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, I think I'm, I'm ready to give Stafford the MVP or at least I'm close. And this feels like kind of a career achievement as and even though it's a single season award, this is a guy that's been doing it for a while. He has, you know, done great things and won a Super bowl. But at the same time, this may be his best season yet. And not only throwing the ball. I mean Blake Corum and Kyron Williams were a great duo as well. So. Sean McVeigh says he remembers every play that he's ever been a part of in his coaching career. Do you believe.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I've, I've heard this before. I don't believe that at all.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean some people have a photogenic memory where they can just. I mean, you've seen people speed read Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh yeah, I'm with you.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean there is some weird things going on with the brain, but I.

[Drew Franklin]

Mean he's coached a lot of football though. Do you remember every play?

[Billy R. Sports]

I can't remember what breakfast I had a couple days ago. I mean, every play there was a.

[Drew Franklin]

Play today Stafford did the no look thing again. Maybe that's not as hard as I think it is, but it blows my mind when he does the like cross body throw where I'm looking the complete other way and hit a guy in the numbers. He did it again today.

[Billy R. Sports]

It's a little reckless.

[Drew Franklin]

It is. But he's Matthew Stafford and right now the best quarterback in the NFL.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, he's got to show off for Clayton Kershaw or somebody like that, that somebody back home that he's, he's trying to athletically beat. But that's, that was the old Mahomes doing a little sidearm no, look. So Stafford's got a little bit of that in him too.

[Drew Franklin]

It helps when the team you're playing is quarterbacked by Jacoby Brissette and their running backs combined for 20 yards in a football game.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, listen, man, they just, just throw berset out there and you got to throw 50 times a game. You don't even have Marvin Harrison Jr. Out there. Just go out there, buddy. There's Michael Wilson and Trey McBride. Have fun.

[Drew Franklin]

Big game by Michael Wilson. If they had anything to get excited about. He had 142 yards and two touchdowns.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, he was good. He was good. Trey McBride. Probably the best tight end in the league besides Brock Bowers. Two guys on bad teams.

[Drew Franklin]

Another big game by him. Do you believe in the rams is the NFC's top team. Ten and three staff on a crash course with the, with the MVP award. If this holds.

[Billy R. Sports]

I mean, I don't believe in Philly. I, you know, they, they just shift their focus each week and they forget how to play football for one quarter at every single game. And then what are my alternatives? Green Bay and Tampa. There's your division leaders, Tampa. And then you've got Seattle, San Francisco and Chicago. So yeah, I mean LA at home, home field advantage throughout the play, playoffs. I don't think that I could take a team against them now. Maybe Jordan Love can continue to get hot and Micah Parsons becomes that dominant force on defense. Maybe that's the contender here. But you know what? The Rams got a good defense too, so.

[Drew Franklin]

And they're just scoring so many points.

[Billy R. Sports]

Devonte Adams is breaking records. Puka Nakua looks like one of the best receivers in the NFL. You let Stafford get those two guys on the same team.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, we focus on Lamb and Pickens in the year they're having, but Puka being out a little bit now that he's back. His day was huge. Adams didn't have as big a day today, but that's a other tandem that doesn't seem fair to. They're on the same team.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, I mean if Kyro.

[Drew Franklin]

Matthew Stafford throwing it to him, if.

[Billy R. Sports]

Kyron and Williams and Blake Corum can stay healthy, then yeah, this offense is probably the best in the nfc.

[Drew Franklin]

And in the night game Sunday night football, Chiefs in prime time once again like always playing the Texans but didn't get it done. Billy. The AFC south, the powers of the AFC south getting a big win. Houston goes into Kansas City wins 20 to 10. That defense is so nasty. And today they forced Mahomes into three interceptions. Now part of the problem is the Chiefs offensive line was completely banged up. And on the first play of the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, first play, first play of the.

[Drew Franklin]

Game, one of the backups gets rolled up. Looked like a leg injury. I don't know exactly what the. What, you know. Games ending now. We'll find out what it was, but they were just down to whoever they could find to come in and play offensive line. And it leads to a 10 point game with Mahomes having three interceptions.

Kelsey's backup at tight end. No, agree. I felt like every time I looked up, he was dropping a pass. He. He dropped a critical one on the first drive for first down. Dropped one later in the game. That offense just never got it going as the Texans defense just absolutely beat them up. Taking advantage of that thin offensive line.

[Billy R. Sports]

Group, number one defense in the NFL and showing it tonight. This group was great. I mean, if you look at the receiving numbers for the Chiefs, Worthy with three receptions for 55 yards, Rasheed Rice for four receptions for 34 yards. Hollywood Brown, one catch, Tyquan Thornton, two catches, 19 yards. It was. It was a complete beat down. And this is. I mean, Kansas City's now 6 and 7. There's no coming back from this, right? I mean, this is.

[Drew Franklin]

You almost maybe did the 6, 7 thing there. I got. I got to quit doing that. But no, there's no coming back. Especially. I know the Texans have a tough defense, but to have, you know, you need wins at this point, you have an opportunity at home. Arrowheads rocking Sunday night football ball.

[Billy R. Sports]

10 points, and there's nothing like a little Davis Mills to get you on a win streak. That's five wins in a row for the Texans. Two with C.J. stroud, three with Davis Mills to put the Texans squarely back into the playoff.

[Drew Franklin]

Hunter Stroud had a good game in his comeback. I know we missed the Davis Mills experience, but he kept that team together and really set him on the right path. I know. You know, AFC south, we were talking about the position the Jaguars were in, but a huge win for the Texans is they're still fighting for their playoff life to go and knock off the Chiefs like this. And I've written the Chiefs off, I feel like five times this season. And then the very next week they go get a big win to try to make me look like an idiot. But they're. They're dead, Billy.

[Billy R. Sports]

I think they're dead.

[Drew Franklin]

They're dead. I'm sticking with it this time. There's nothing they can do to convince me that they're back.

[Billy R. Sports]

Ding Dong, the witch is dead. But you're right about the AFC South. I mean, Jacksonville is 9 and 4. The Colts are 8 and 5. The Texans are 8 and 5. You're going to be some good games down the stretch here in your division.

[Drew Franklin]

Titans are hot at the moment, as we covered earlier. Well, but just of all the. You know, there's been some pretty surprising stuff throughout the year. The Chiefs, you know, being 6 and 7 right now at this point, the years, by far the most shocking for me, I still thought they had another year or two in that. In that dynasty they have going on, and, you know, maybe they'll be fine next year and on down the road with the young pieces, Rice worthy and all that.

[Billy R. Sports]

But.

[Drew Franklin]

But the Chiefs as we know them, with Kelsey and that bunch, looks like it could be the end. Yeah.

[Billy R. Sports]

I'll tell you what's shocking is that Travis Kelsey saying that he didn't fight with Taylor Swift.

[Drew Franklin]

Drew, come on. All right, let's. You know, we're getting here to the end of the show. That's our Sunday night game. Let's goofy it up a little bit. What are they talking about? They haven't fought in two and a half years.

[Billy R. Sports]

I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

Come on.

[Billy R. Sports]

It was somebody that told me this story. It was like they released in a magazine or something that they never fight. They're engaged now.

[Drew Franklin]

Right.

[Billy R. Sports]

They've set a wedding date, but they never fight. They don't get in those type of arguments. Drew, do you believe that as a.

[Drew Franklin]

No, not at all.

[Billy R. Sports]

As a married man?

[Drew Franklin]

Not at all. Listen, I have a great marriage. We rarely fight, but in two and a half years, you're gonna have an argument or two. That just happens. And I do not believe that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift have not had one single dispute in their two and a half years.

[Billy R. Sports]

I agree. That means, like, you're in a loveless relationship if you don't have the passion to fight every now and then. And that's just what humans do. But I'll play devil's advocate for a second. If you've got that much money, I mean, do you really have. Are there still problems? Drew, do people still have problems with that amount of money? Because she's like billions with an S.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, if I'm Travis, I'm not fighting at all. Ever. Yes. Yes, ma'. Am. Huh? Yep. I would love to do that. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yes, I will do that right now. Oh, I thought you'd never. Yeah, I would love to take the trash out right now. No, I would not. Going to see the boys golf. I've never heard of golf. What's a golf club with her? 1.7, but I still. Humans are humans, and you cannot go two and a half years without an argument in a couple. They're completely lying about it. Unless he's just so afraid she's going to put him in a song. Maybe I could believe.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, great point. Great point. She might put him in a song if they had a bad enough argument.

[Drew Franklin]

So I'm saying I can see it on his end. I can completely get it. He didn't want to end up in another song.

[Billy R. Sports]

She's been ruthless at the breakup album. So you're right.

[Drew Franklin]

She was also ruthless with her news for my. I keep bringing up my wife Abby here, but we recently let everyone know we're expecting a baby. Yes.

[Billy R. Sports]

Congratulations.

[Drew Franklin]

We announced that on Friday, the same morning Taylor and Travis announced their. Their wedding date. I mean, they completely just pushed us down the headlines. You know, I'm on TMZ waiting to see what they're saying about my future child, and it's just, oh, Rhode island wedding, Travis Taylor, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Billy R. Sports]

We're going to have a cover zero, baby. That's great. That's right now.

[Drew Franklin]

But the news got completely pushed away by Travis and Taylor in their stupid wedding day, which is a day after my birthday.

[Billy R. Sports]

I understand you want the attention to be on you guys. And Travis and Taylor just took it from you.

[Drew Franklin]

She was at the game tonight. That's still got people worked up. I saw her in this one.

[Billy R. Sports]

Matt was the one worked up about it. He's like, why don't they put her on TV more? But are you going to make your daughter.

[Drew Franklin]

Daughter.

[Billy R. Sports]

A Titans fan?

[Drew Franklin]

I've actually thought about this. Well, when we were in Buffalo, Abby was like, let's just. She can be a Bills fan. She won't have to go through this Cowboys existence. We can put her through a table. It'll be my reason to go hang with Bill's mafia. So I might have a little Buffalo Bill on the way.

[Billy R. Sports]

Wow.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll see, though. I might have a whole recruiting process.

[Billy R. Sports]

You can teach her about the Music City Music. A miracle.

[Drew Franklin]

And, you know, this sounds like a good way for me to just take five official visits to different NFL stadiums and take a baby along and just say, I'm just scouting for her.

[Billy R. Sports]

We need to tour more NFL stadiums for Drew's child. Not for us, for Drew's child.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, we got that going on.

[Billy R. Sports]

But congratulations.

[Drew Franklin]

Thank you.

[Billy R. Sports]

Thank you.

[Drew Franklin]

And boo. Travis and Taylor for stealing.

[Billy R. Sports]

Come on, humans, fight.

[Drew Franklin]

We didn't really care, but that was big news that they have their wedding date in Rhode Island. I heard they bought out somebody that already had the venue. I mean.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, wait, so somebody was booked?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And they bought them out?

[Billy R. Sports]

Like, well, see my weddings next year. See, they're stealing my shine too.

[Drew Franklin]

But think of. You're that person.

[Billy R. Sports]

Like, yeah, what if I had everything?

[Drew Franklin]

I'd have to play hardball a little bit. I. I know who's on the other side of the negotiation. I'm like, nope, this is my date.

[Billy R. Sports]

A little higher. A little higher.

[Drew Franklin]

Nope, can't have it. This is my date. I'm trying to get as much as I can. I assume Taylor, like, paid for their wedding at the other date or something, but, you know, you're wealthy when you can just go to a place that's already booked and be like, I don't care. I'm buying.

[Billy R. Sports]

That is probably what happened. Right. They probably offered to pay for everything that they did.

[Drew Franklin]

But I would have played hardball.

[Billy R. Sports]

No. Bezos in Italy. I.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Billy R. Sports]

Where they shut down the town for. For a while and everything.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think the NFL will send us to Rhode island to cover? I mean, it is one of the biggest stories in the NFL.

[Billy R. Sports]

Like, they're gonna. Like, they would send us to the draft. You think they would send us to the LLC wedding?

[Drew Franklin]

We'll run it up the way.

[Billy R. Sports]

Why not? What's the worst thing they could say is no, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. We just gotta hope we're invited back after we're doing this show without Matt.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, come on. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like we've done pretty good. I've enjoyed talking to you. I like doing shows with you.

[Billy R. Sports]

I get to talk more when Matt's not here. So I. I definitely did enjoy it. But we are thinking about Matt and his family and the tough time that going through. But definitely he tells us he'll be back on Wednesday to do our next preview episode.

[Drew Franklin]

All right. Looking forward to that one. We got a little. We won't preview Monday Night Football because, you know, this will get old by the time that game's played. But we do have a little Eagles Chargers tomorrow. Do you have any hot Eagles Chargers takes a couple eight and four teams.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

In LA so far, Stadium charter's been.

[Billy R. Sports]

Sliding a little bit. This would be a big win for them. These two teams have the same record, both at 8 and 4 right now. Who would you have more confidence in, Drew?

[Drew Franklin]

I'll say the Eagles. But this could be a good game. Looking forward to it.

[Billy R. Sports]

They've lost two in a row.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Did you see. I'm getting off topic here as we're trying to wrap it up, but did you see devonte Smith talking about his juicer?

[Billy R. Sports]

Juicer.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, like, like vegetables and juice.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

So I guess he's kind of a quiet guy. He's doing an interview where he talks about his juicer. He is talking about this juicer like it's his firstborn. Like, he is so excited. He's like, talking about the things he juices like, oh, apples. You got to use so many more apples than this, blah, blah, blah. But the joy on his face talking about a juicer. This is a multimillionaire with a Super bowl ring on his finger, currently playing for the Philadelphia Eagles, who could end up with more super bowl rings on his finger. And he is so excited that he owns a juicer. Those aren't even. I have a juicer. I mean, you know, 100 bucks will get you one. It's. I wouldn't think that a millionaire that would move the needle for him, but my man was five. Fired up.

[Billy R. Sports]

I love that. Very relatable. It kind of reminds me of when I got a fancy coffee machine. Drew and I figured out that you could like, timer it. Oh, big time mornings and things like that. Like, I was. I was on cloud nine. Is becoming a new coffee drinker. So. Yeah, I mean, look at him. I guess he's getting his protein shakes in, huh?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. You ever juice? Get you a juice? I don't have a juicer, man. You can get them at a store.

[Billy R. Sports]

I got a blender.

[Drew Franklin]

It can work. It can work. I juice occasionally. Just buy a bunch of veg. I don't like to eat vegetables, but I recognize, recognize as life goes on. Maybe I should eat some vegetables. So what I usually do is just throw them all in the juicer and chug it.

[Billy R. Sports]

Oh, then you just chug it.

[Drew Franklin]

Just completely take it down in two seconds.

[Billy R. Sports]

Maybe you're like rocky and instead of raw eggs, you just go in for a little.

[Drew Franklin]

That's exactly what I do.

[Billy R. Sports]

Vegetable juice.

[Drew Franklin]

Put a little ginger in there. Ginger covers up the flavor of all stuff.

[Billy R. Sports]

So you do know what you're doing over there.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, I juice. That's why I got so excited. I wasn't as excited as Devonta Smith in his juicer, but knowing that there's another juicer out there that knows the game.

[Billy R. Sports]

We were just in an NFL locker room, so if we ever find ourselves in the Eagles, I think we Know who we're going up to to ask a question.

[Drew Franklin]

Right. I want some recipes. I got to let them know to put a little ginger in there. It helps.

[Billy R. Sports]

Yeah, how. How often are we juicing a day?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I'm not doing it daily. Really. The. It's just. It's. It's way too time consuming.

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[Billy R. Sports]

But our guy might be juicing.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, he could be. He definitely could be. He was so thrilled. We're talking about vegetables, little apples, carrots. Carrots. He needs to work in a few more like juicing.

[Billy R. Sports]

Have you been doing.

[Drew Franklin]

No, the vegetables. No, no, no. Talking about kale and please, the veggies. So I'm going Eagles just because of the green juice.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay. You've talked me into it.

[Drew Franklin]

Give me.

[Billy R. Sports]

Give me Philly on the road.

[Drew Franklin]

And to wrap it up, you know, we didn't have our midweek episode. I guess we don't have any touchdown scores to recap.

[Billy R. Sports]

Well, Harold Fannin Jr. Scored and that really is, I think, our touchdown score. So maybe we should just give us all each one point in the. In the. This week. Do you like that?

[Drew Franklin]

I like that. Who would you have picked? Who would I. Yeah, I'm putting you on the spot. Don't think about who scored today. Who would you have picked?

[Billy R. Sports]

God, I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

Somebody on the Rams, probably Puka Nuku. We'll give you that one. I might do a little devonte Smith touchdown since we didn't get to bet it this week. We didn't get to makeup. I will speak devonte Smith Monday Night Football touchdown into existence. And I will celebrate with a nice green juice. Might even bring you one on Tuesday.

[Billy R. Sports]

Okay, I'll match it with you with little vdol Inch down the Chargers running back.

[Drew Franklin]

And we're keeping your survivor streak going. You get to write the rules.

[Billy R. Sports]

I survived this week by not having.

[Drew Franklin]

To make a pick and you claim the Saints. We're going to be your team.

[Billy R. Sports]

I'm telling you, as somebody that has sat through those games, Matt won't believe that that will get shouted down, I'm sure. But we're putting that in the record books because he's not here.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, I'll count it. I'll count it.

[Billy R. Sports]

Survive in advance.

[Drew Franklin]

We got through it without Matt. Appreciate you doing this. I hated that we missed last Wednesday, but, you know, a lot going on. Very unexpected. We're thinking about him and we were happy to do it. We had a fun day. Fun day games, lots of snow. That made it exciting.

[Billy R. Sports]

Good job, Drew. And glad that you know, you survived the karaoke last night in Nashville and.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't get shot in my hotel lobby. I hope that guy's doing okay. That was really wild. I mean, I must have just missed it by like a minute. They closed the whole street. There were probably 15 police cars, news camera. Everybody showed up out of nowhere and I was literally right there right as it right when it happened.

[Billy R. Sports]

Then the Titans won.

[Drew Franklin]

Then the Titans won. Weird weekend. We'll be back on Wednesday with our midweek episode to preview week 15 and everything that else comes with it. Matt will be back with us. We'll be excited to hear from him. But for For Billy R. Sports and Drew Franklin, we're signing off on this Week 14 Sunday night edition of NFL Cover 0. Thanks for listening.

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