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With Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is NFL Cover Zero, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin here for six review. Drew has literally just landed after flying from Denver, Colorado to Lexington, Kentucky. How was your flight Drew?
Matt Jones
Nice. Nice direct flight. I was a little bummed because on the way there I had WI Fi and I was able to watch live tv. So I thought I was going to get to watch Sunday Night Football. But you know, the WI Fi isn't always working on the plane so I had to just Stare at the back of the seat and miss that game. But otherwise good day. And I was able to watch the other stuff.
Drew Franklin
I looked at the slate this morning before I did ESPN and I went, oh, this, this isn't the most fun. It was weird. They got to the bewitching hour or whatever they say on red zone and none of the games were close. But then they all kind of got close at the end. The afternoon shift. The ending was, was tonight and The Chiefs win 30 to 17. It was kind of drew an old school Chiefs performance. Strong on offense, defense gets big stops. They beat a good lines team at home. They control the game. Two scores most of the game. Chiefs are back, right? Yeah.
Matt Jones
Salt, Mahomes and Kelsey looking like the old tandem that was dominating everyone. You know, earlier in the season I was one of the people really questioning the Chiefs.
Drew Franklin
But Kelsey's doing that. He plays his way into shape. Yeah.
Matt Jones
You know what I mean?
Drew Franklin
Like he's, he's starting. He does. He looks a little thinner.
Matt Jones
Well, when they get older they don't really focus in camp. You know, a little lazy going to the season. I've done this several times. I'll get in shape on down the road. He's doing, he's doing that move.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I wonder is he like if he's kind of a deadbeat boyfriend in the sense of, you know, his, his, his fiance was doing all kinds of stuff this summer and he. Even through the course of the game, if you go look, if you watch the first quarter, Kelsey has a couple of big drops early, including on a third down that he should have made the play. I. Collinsworth sounded like a disappointed dad. He was like you, you have to do that, Travis.
Matt Jones
So not the normal Collins worth.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, no, he was not. Well, we'll get to that. There was a little bit of that too there bit of that. But he did a little bit of the disappointed dad. But then in the second half it was like old Kelsey mode activated. And I thought Mahomes looked great throughout the game. He does things nobody else can and he, I mean he won him the game tonight. A lot of his scrambles were kind of old school. Mahomes as well.
Matt Jones
I caught the beginning of this before I took off the fourth and one with the lions on the. On the one yard line.
Drew Franklin
That's the biggest play of the game.
Matt Jones
What a wild play that was.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, that was the biggest play of the game. I mean if you, I think if you, if they score there, it's a different game but they stop them then The. The. The Chiefs come down and get some points before half. I think that was. That was a huge decision. Was interesting all game long. These two coaches are a testament to how much football has changed. I mean early in the game. First, I think it was the first drive of the game for the Chiefs. They're at fourth and goal from the four and they go for it and they score. It's a pass to worthy for a touchdown. But I mean you go back five years, people are not going for on the first drive of the game. Are they going to go for it on fourth and goal from the four. That's a change that just didn't used to happen.
Matt Jones
Yeah. See more coaches doing it. But then Dan Campbell, he is just the craziest of all of them. When they went for it on fourth down. You know most people, if you're going to go for it, probably just power run, we're going to throw to our quarterback. I mean that guy's a psychopath. But I've really grown to love the Lions. I'm kind of a bandwagon and it would have worked.
Drew Franklin
It would have work if they had.
Matt Jones
He lost him a little bit.
Drew Franklin
He did. I. You could make a strong argument that the difference in the game early were the fourth down place. There were the. The fourth down where the chief score. Then the last drive before half, they convert or no, forgive me first drive. The second half they convert on a fourth down that leads to points. And then of course there's the one the lines miss. So it's just interesting. That didn't used to be a thing. And now if you're inside the five, you're going for it every time, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah. And it's not just there at the goal line too. I mean we had Variable go for it on like 4th and 7 from his own 15 a few weeks ago. Guys are just. They're rolling the dice a little more than we've ever seen.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. But I like it makes it a lot more exciting. The Chiefs are now three and three back to title contender.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Worried if they lost this one and if the Chargers were to win that division might get so wide that even if they did start clicking that the gap would be just too big. But beating the Lions is a huge.
Drew Franklin
Huge for them.
Matt Jones
Getting them back at 500 and then obviously just proven how good they are.
Drew Franklin
Schedule is not easy. But it gets a little easier than it was. I think they're right there. I just think they're bored with like the regular season to them is, you know, when it Comes and they should have won that game last week with the Jaguars. I mean, that. That was a game. You play that game. Think about when they had. They were at the one yard line or whatever, up 14, nothing. You start at that moment and you play the game 100 times. They're going to win 96 of them. It's just. They throw that pick six and then the game flips after that.
Matt Jones
And I think their early losses. I think Worthy was going to be a big part of what they're doing. That offense that just completely threw them off in the beginning of week one.
Drew Franklin
And they get Richie Rice back next.
Matt Jones
Week, so he's been big.
Drew Franklin
Having him back too. Yeah, that's right. Now we do have to talk about Chris Collins work. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Do I get an impersonation?
Drew Franklin
Yes, you do, because this was a great one. Billy, I almost texted you. When it happened, it wasn't even a particularly impressive play. It was like third and seven and he. And Mahomes decides to scramble and comes up two yards short of the first down. And he gets hit by three different guys. Did you see this play?
Billy
He got.
Drew Franklin
He got hit by one guy, bounced off of him, then got nailed by another. It was one of those plays where if you're a Chiefs fan, you're like, dude, you got a slide. Because he didn't even get the first down. But Collinsworth was. I mean, it had to be one of the p. I mean, he doesn't need any. Any tea when he's watching these games to talk to our conversation last. He. His tea was not low during this because he just was like, if you watch it, he scrambles and he says, oh, Mike. Oh, oh, oh. Can you believe it? He was like, no other quarterback does that, Mike. No other quarterback does that.
Matt Jones
Think I know what video we're going to use this week.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean, I did roll my ass. I'm just saying that's what he did. And he didn't even get the first down. He was two yards short of the first down and he just got nailed by the two lines. Defenders, Collins, Worth and Mahomes. That's a love that goes deep.
Matt Jones
It's like Travis Taylor, then Mahomes, Collinsworth. Is that the ranking? The couples.
Drew Franklin
I think that's. I think that's the ranking he is. He gets you a girl that looks at you the way Chris does. Patrick.
Matt Jones
If nothing else, he's brought a new impersonation to NFL Cover zero that I hope will continue.
Drew Franklin
Another big part of this game. I got a text message right before it started from a female friend of mine who said, you all on Cover zero have to talk about the fact that Travis walked into the game with a Louis Vuitton flannel. And I thought I'd bring that up because we wouldn't have talked about it otherwise. That was not going to be something I brought up. But I do like that this level. Travis Kelsey now brings that to the game as well. People caring who don't even like sports about what he wears into the game.
Matt Jones
And he can afford his own Louis Vuitton. Before Taylor Swift. But now that they've. We've had this big company merger between Kelsey and Swift here, I mean, he can. He can afford literally anything he wants.
Drew Franklin
I didn't know Louis Vuitton made flannel. I usually don't think of that as a Louis Vuitton kind of thing.
Matt Jones
I don't shop there much, to be honest. I like flannels, but don't usually go to Louis for those.
Drew Franklin
When I. When I go to Louis, which is awesome, I don't usually come away with flannels. But now because of. Of Travis, I will but big win. And I think for the Chiefs, this is like all their doubters, they're going to be right there in the end. Now, Billy, your Bucks ended up getting what I think was probably the most exciting game of the day, beating the 49ers. Baker Mayfield. I'm going on record. He's the MVP right now, isn't he?
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah. He was awesome. Today I got to shout out a sports bar in Denver Airport. I think it was called Artisans. They had. You don't usually get sound in an airport bar, so I got to watch a lot of this one in Mayfield. I mean, Billy, can I, like, buy a jersey and get on the bandwagon? He's just so fun. There's so many plays where maybe a lineman bumps him, and he is just so quick to get up in their face and talk trash.
Drew Franklin
Well, his scramble on that third down, Billy, is. If you were going to draw up exactly why people love Baker Mayfield, that would be the play. He did so many Baker Mayfield things. He did fakes. He got hit. He spun like it was such a great play.
Billy
That was his MVP moment.
Drew Franklin
It was. Yeah.
Billy
And for him to do this without his four starting wide receivers and his starting running back in Bucky Irving, it's incredible. He's willing this team to a 5 and 1 record. And we were talking about it before the show started. If the season ended today, the Bucks would be the 1 seed in the NFC.
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean, not the Bucks being the 1 seed is odd, but the Colts would be the 1 seed in the. In the AFC, which we'll get to in a second. But, I mean, Billy's points are made. They're out with four wide receivers. I mean, four of their wide receivers out. Bucky Irving's out. And then they bring in Tez Johnson. Amazing pass on that deep pass. That was the. That. That was just a couple plays after his crazy run. That little sequence, the run and then the past to Tez Johnson. Would you vote for Baker for mvp? Remember we were. Last week, I asked you what the odds were. Yeah, I think it was, like, plus six. 75. It was plus 600 before the game today. After those two plays, it went down to plus three. 40 in, like. I'm not. I'm not in, like, three minutes. It went from plus 600 to plus three. 40 on the back, I think, on the. After those two plays.
Matt Jones
And it's. It's the way. That's the teams they're beating to, the way they're doing it. I mean, what was it through the first three weeks? They come back fashion. You know, you didn't beat the Eagles, but you had the Eagles down. That's your one loss. I mean, the Bucks are for real. Baker Mayfield's for real. One little fluky thing or earlier in the season. I mean, Igbuka. I know he didn't have much today, being so. They were so thin.
Drew Franklin
He went out.
Matt Jones
Yeah. He's a young star. I saw he had an early catch. I mean, they really are. It's not just some flash in the pan. They're hot for a couple weeks. I mean, they're a real threat.
Drew Franklin
Well, here's how much of a threat they are. You and I have a friend who is a. He's big time in the gambling world. His name's Stucky. You know Stucky, right? You know Stucky.
Billy
I don't know Stucky.
Drew Franklin
Stucky's. When Stucky has gambling thoughts, I'm. I follow. All right, now The Bucks are 5 and 1. Stuckey seems to hate Tampa Bay. I don't know why it is. And he wrote after the game. He said, I want you to mark this tweet right now. He said, the Bucks are. And he said, cheeks.
Matt Jones
Oh, they're cheeks.
Drew Franklin
Cheeks. Which is by way. What? That's. That's. That's a new term that means not good. Yeah. And he said, remember this when they finish 8 and 9. Now, I rarely argue with Stuckey. Right I try to learn from Stuckey, not argue with Stuckey, but I was like, okay, I can't let this go. So I wrote Stuckey and said, come on, the Bucks are good. There's no way they're finishing 8 and 9. And then someone else got in and said the Bucs aren't even good. Which led to an argument on Twitter with me of metaphysical what the word good means. But can we all agree that they're not going to finish eight and nine like Stuckey says?
Matt Jones
Oh, there's no.
Drew Franklin
No.
Billy
I mean, no way.
Matt Jones
Think about the division they still play. The Saints twice, the Panthers twice.
Drew Franklin
That's four right there, isn't it?
Matt Jones
Right there. I even know the rest of the schedule. But that alone, I'm counting them at four. And oh, in those games, you got another one against the Falcons, who you know a little better than those two.
Drew Franklin
Well, here, let me read you. Tell me that they win or loose. They're at Detroit next week. We'll even call that a loss. Okay. Saints when? Patriots, When? Home? Home.
Matt Jones
When?
Drew Franklin
At Bills. We'll take that as a loss. At Rams, maybe.
Matt Jones
Homecoming game.
Drew Franklin
Cardinals at home.
Matt Jones
When?
Drew Franklin
Saints at home.
Matt Jones
When?
Greg Rosenthal
When?
Drew Franklin
Falcons at home? At Panthers. At Dolphins when? Panthers at home?
Matt Jones
When?
Billy
That's eight more wins.
Drew Franklin
How can Stuckey think they're going to win eight games?
Matt Jones
Sounds like he's just maybe got some built up anger towards the Bucks. He's a Ravens guy. I can't think of any Big Bucks, Ravens moments. Are you.
Drew Franklin
Are you in of the opinion that they're. They're going to win the Super Bowl? Are you getting your hopes up?
Billy
Yeah, my hopes are up. It took three to four weeks after that Eagles loss. I was still a little unsure. But Baker is just a different breed right now. If he can stay healthy, it doesn't matter who's around him. If he can stay healthy, this team's got a chance. And. And that's exciting coming from a team that's won this many division titles in a row. It feels different this year.
Drew Franklin
And they're not cheeks.
Matt Jones
No, not at all.
Drew Franklin
Don't let anybody say that. Don't let anybody say that. Fred Warner for the 49ers. That was an awful injury.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it was hard to watch. That's now two straight years where the 49ers have had just stupid injury luck. Or is it not luck? Do you think there can be some, I mean, like the laws of numbers? Can't say. It just can keep happening over and over.
Matt Jones
I agree. We had this talk last week and now they've added another significant injury a week later. It's. It's way too many to be fluky. I. I don't know. I'm not here to just call out trainers and their staff, but that's back to back seasons, just their roster being.
Drew Franklin
Decimated and yet they were in this game. Yeah, they still have an easy schedule. I mean, they still can, can be a contender. I mean, Mac Jones, you believe? I mean, he's kind of hung in there for him, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah, he's been good, but it just.
Drew Franklin
Hate Mac Jones, by the way, just.
Matt Jones
Seems like any quarterback. I mean, they're beat up and the players are changing, but Purdy Jones, whoever throw them out there, this is going to be the same.
Drew Franklin
I don't like Mac Jones for one simple reason. People think his name is Matt Jones. They search him on Twitter. It comes up at ky. Like, if you put in Matt Jones on Twitter, the thing that comes up is me. So people who want to cuss him will tag me. So they'll be like, you know, you know, who can't play football at KY Sports Radio?
Matt Jones
And then you're like, yeah, I know, obviously. Thanks.
Drew Franklin
Yes. I'm 47.
Matt Jones
I do work for the NFL though.
Drew Franklin
That's true. But does the person never think that maybe the football player, Mac Jones, why would his Twitter handle be at KY Sports Radio?
Matt Jones
He did commit to Kentucky. Maybe he just didn't change it.
Drew Franklin
But why would that be his Twitter hand? But I get at least eight or nine cussing out messages every single time Mac Jones plays.
Matt Jones
I think you should fire back as if you're him, apologize, offer to send him a jersey, ask for their address.
Drew Franklin
Dude, I'm trying as best I can.
Matt Jones
My team sucks.
Drew Franklin
Look, it's halftime. Will you stop distracting me?
Matt Jones
Trying to watch the gilded age before I get back out there?
Drew Franklin
Did you see the one guy on the 49ers, he stepped on the kicker's foot.
Matt Jones
No, I didn't see that part.
Drew Franklin
I want you to look up this picture for those of you at home, if you're listening, if you're driving, pull over because I don't want you to get in an accident. But look at 49ers kicker get stepped on. And I want you to notice the picture. Most importantly, I want you to notice the discrepancy in size of their feet. The lineman that steps on the kicker's foot.
Matt Jones
Oh, before I even hit play, I see like the screenshot, the still image.
Drew Franklin
So. Oh my goodness, his foot. The lineman is twice as big as the kicker's foot.
Matt Jones
I would maybe even more than twice that might be three times the size.
Drew Franklin
Here's my question.
Matt Jones
Those don't even look like the same species.
Drew Franklin
It doesn't. That's what I was going to say. It looks like a woolly mammoth is stepping on a bumblebee. So I want us to guess, looking at those pictures, what is the relative shoe size of each person? Because if you think that kicker wears a 10, then that means that lineman wears a 20.
Matt Jones
It. It looks to be very extreme each way. Not like some kind of. Just the way that's distorted the image. This looks like about a seven and a half shoe and about a 27 and a half shoe. That the kicker shoe can't be more than a nine.
Billy
Yeah, I was going like 18 and eight, maybe.
Drew Franklin
You think. You think the guy's 18?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I mean, I have really big feet, and I wear like 12 and a half. And I'm 64 for those of you that don't. And so I have four. Like, I have the biggest size of shoe you can have in, like, buy in store. You get bigger than me, you have to order. And I agree with you. I think he's like an 18, and I think it is. That picture needs to go in the. In the Smithsonian.
Matt Jones
I just. I'm surprised the 49ers didn't have another injury. I mean, is Eddie P. All right?
Billy
He was hurt.
Matt Jones
He was limping.
Drew Franklin
You know, he lived. He limped for a while.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean, you see him limp off in this video. I'm five. That that shoe might be in the 20s. Might be. Might be going Shaq style.
Drew Franklin
Look up. What's the biggest foot?
Billy
Shaq was 22, 23 is what I looked up.
Drew Franklin
But what was like, yao? Like, what's the biggest foot known to man? I mean, there's got to be, because Shaq was big. But there have been people taller. Taller than shaq?
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Billy
Biggest US size was a 37AA, owned by Robert Wadlow, the tallest man in history.
Drew Franklin
A 37 AA.
Matt Jones
Wow.
Drew Franklin
So he was 15 sizes bigger than Shaq. Yeah.
Billy
Lived from 1918 to 1940.
Drew Franklin
I bet it was really hard for him to get shoes. Although he probably knew a what. Cobbler. Yeah.
Matt Jones
He'd probably feel lined up wanting to make his shoes.
Billy
I don't know why I thought that was so funny.
Drew Franklin
It's just a word. That's a funny word.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Isn't that what old shoe shoemakers were?
Matt Jones
Yeah. Yeah. I thought cobbler was dessert.
Drew Franklin
All right, let's go to London Broncos beat the Jets 13 to 11. Because I was doing the ESPN morning show, I had this game on the whole time. Justin Fields. And I'm. I don't know if it was Justin Fields, his offensive line, Aaron Glenn, or all of them. It's the worst offense that's ever been played. They combined total passing yards, negative 10. It's hard to do 45 yards in the air and then 55 yards in sacks. He was sacked nine times. It's the worst passing performance by a team drew in 27 years of NFL action.
Matt Jones
I was in Denver. This game started at 7am I was in a wedding last night. All the groomsmen wanted to get up together and watch this at 7am because they're all Broncos fans. I said, hell, no. But I did get up and I turned it on.
Drew Franklin
They all got up after the wedding and watched it.
Matt Jones
The city of Denver. It was like a party at 7am if you're out there.
Drew Franklin
Okay.
Matt Jones
Yeah. That's what's kind of neat about these London games, is how you kind of get that morning, make it unique.
Drew Franklin
So you're. But you're. Your buddy got married.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Drew Franklin
Last night in Denver. And everyone got. All the groomsmen are big Broncos fans.
Matt Jones
Yeah. One of the groomsmen invited me to come over and lay on his couch. I was like, no, I'm not getting up to watch. You're. You're just. I did get up to watch it in my hotel.
Drew Franklin
You want to come lay on my couch, Billy?
Matt Jones
Shout out to Tyler, but come lay on my couch. About halfway through the second quarter, I thought, I don't. There's no reason I need to be up watching this right now at 8am now at this point. So I just completely turned it off and went back and got my beauty rest for cover zero. But absolutely brutal game to be the only one on.
Drew Franklin
The jets should have won. The jets were at the 43 yard line, 1st and 10. They needed to get 5 yards to get into field goal range. And Justin Fields got sacked twice. And they ended up out of field goal range and were not able to. To get it. The jets are. You want to talk about cheeks?
Matt Jones
I mean, I thought Aaron Glenn might have something. You know, he got a little fire. I liked him.
Drew Franklin
Well, let's talk about that for a minute. So they got in a fight where they got in a confrontation. Aaron Glenn and Garrett Wilson. At the end of the first half, they sort of jawed at each other and they asked Garrett Wilson after the game about it. And his quote was, and I'm paraphrasing something to the effect of before the game, I didn't know what the game plan was. And then when we started, I saw what it was and it made me angry.
Billy
I was disappointed.
Drew Franklin
I was disappointed. Couple interesting things about that. Presumably he should have known the game plan before.
Matt Jones
It's true. I don't think that's a big part of your job. He's paid well to be a part of that team.
Drew Franklin
You think it wasn't shared with him before?
Matt Jones
I'm going to assume that they give their game plan to their. Maybe their best player on the entire roster.
Drew Franklin
It's not like a. It's not like a movie where you want to be surprised. There's no spoiler alert. Here's what we're doing.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Right.
Matt Jones
Was it jamarcus Russell when they gave him a playbook of blank pages and he just never, like, didn't even open it? They tested him.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
It's probably more of Garrett Wilson.
Drew Franklin
Just Kyler Murray, too. Right. Like, on his iPad. They found that he never opened it.
Matt Jones
Didn't. Didn't. They were tracking how long this screen time was like, zero or whatever.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. For those of you around the country, Drew and I cover Kentucky basketball and they put in a new system where they charted all shots taken in the practice gym. And they wanted the coaches to every day. This was when Caliperi was the coach. They wanted the coaches to every day. They had different things they were supposed to monitor. And they found after the season was over that of the five assistant coaches, three of them had never logged in.
Matt Jones
Wasn't just the shooting system. It had, like, their recruiting. It was like their whole operation.
Drew Franklin
They're like me and iheart. I've never checked my mail. They were like that, except with what they needed to do on their daily thing.
Matt Jones
Makes you wonder how often do you think this happens a lot. We've already named four stories of guys just doing.
Drew Franklin
These are people in prominent positions. The quarterbacks. And why. You know, there are lots of guys on the team who don't.
Matt Jones
Or coaches.
Drew Franklin
I. I've always thought that memorizing a playbook has to be hard, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah. That's why many people aren't cut out for. For doing it a high level.
Drew Franklin
You have a dude like Joe Flacco who's only on the team for three days. So how does that work?
Matt Jones
Joe, drop back and just throw it to Jamar Chase.
Drew Franklin
I do think that's interesting. But anyway, Garrett Wilson ended up being disappointed.
Matt Jones
They're wasting him. He's so good and just getting nothing done with him.
Drew Franklin
And what was the. There was a quote from the running back earlier this year. What was his quote? Hall. He had a quote. There was something funny. What was it about this? Look it up. He had a quote. I think it was after the third or fourth game of the season where he said something like, well, I can't remember. There's a funny quote from. From him. Broncos big win.
Matt Jones
I got the quote.
Drew Franklin
What is it?
Matt Jones
Because I I knew you were talking about is teams shoot themselves in the foot but then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.
Drew Franklin
That's kind of a poetic most team shoot themselves in the foot. We turn back around and then shoot.
Matt Jones
Ourselves just to double check to make sure we're not going in.
Billy
I don't know.
Drew Franklin
I think think actually he could be a rider. Yeah.
Matt Jones
Deep.
Drew Franklin
That is a. That's a. That's a really good quote. Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, 23 to 9 winners over the Browns. The Steelers are 4 1. I cannot stand Aaron Rodgers. I mean he might be my least favorite. No, he is my least favorite athlete. I don't say of all time, but certainly in the last. However, with that said, he had a couple throws today that look like the old Aaron Rodgers, including one into the back of the end zone for a touchdown that I thought was vintage him at his best.
Matt Jones
That the one where he's rolling out?
Drew Franklin
Yes.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I saw Twitter's going was going crazy during the game with vintage Rogers and those clips. I would have bet against him this season. I thought this is going to be an absolute joke. We're just going to have to watch him try to go out and play one more year. But man, he can still do it. He's definitely old. I don't know if he's going to get him back to the level where they want him to be or want them to take him. But every once while like today, he just makes some throws. All he can do.
Drew Franklin
He's already better than I think I thought he'd be.
Matt Jones
I thought they're going to be a circus kind of a joke.
Drew Franklin
I did too. And let's look at their next look at their next few games. They're 4 and 1. They go to Cincinnati, then they play the packers at home, Colts at home, at Chargers. That's a tough run. Bengals at home, then Bears, Bills. But the Ravens. They play the Ravens twice in the last five weeks. That doesn't look as hard as it did earlier in the year. They play the Dolphins. I mean, it's There for them to make the playoffs. If they can. If they can, you know.
Matt Jones
Well, that division so bad that they should make the playoffs, course it's a matter of can they win a game when they get there.
Drew Franklin
They gaming. It's the Bengals. That's Thursday night. That's a big game in Cincinnati. I mean, if you're the Bengals and you want to have a shot at winning the division, you kind of have to win that game. Right?
Matt Jones
Yeah. I just. I know there. There's still hopeful. There's some life in the Bengals. I think that I'm not giving up.
Drew Franklin
Looks good today, don't you think, Billy?
Billy
He looked okay. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
What do you mean, okay? Well, we'll get to him. Don't. Flacco was not wacko. I want to talk about the Browns. Dylan Gabriel was not. Was not good.
Matt Jones
He threw it like 50 something times. Imagine.
Drew Franklin
I mean, they don't. He felt more Shador. He's just not gonna get in, right?
Matt Jones
No, no. I. I don't even. I mean, I guess they drafted him because at that point somebody had to pick him up, but they don't have a plan for him.
Drew Franklin
Which of these two statistics is more insane about the Browns? First of all, 11 straight games without scoring 17 points.
Matt Jones
That's nuts. That reminds me of Kentucky.
Drew Franklin
Or they're paying eight quarterbacks this season.
Matt Jones
I think that's my favorite also. Just with their history, when we did the show that you with Billy filled in, what was it, 42, 41 people are now on that starting jersey.
Billy
Oh, yeah.
Matt Jones
Starting quarterback. Yeah. 42 different quarterbacks, too. It's. The Browns have been cursed.
Drew Franklin
So now the question is, can we name between me and you all eight quarterbacks that they are paid?
Matt Jones
They're currently still paying. Yeah, sure.
Drew Franklin
All right, so let's go. We've got. You got Dylan Gabriel, Shador Sanders.
Billy
Correct.
Drew Franklin
Flacco, right?
Matt Jones
Yes.
Drew Franklin
They're paying him for. They've paid him. Deshaun Watson.
Billy
Yep.
Drew Franklin
That's four. Bailey Zappy.
Billy
That's correct.
Matt Jones
Oh, she's still getting.
Drew Franklin
He's on the practice squad.
Matt Jones
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Drew Franklin
So that's five. Are they still paying new puntley?
Billy
Nope.
Drew Franklin
Okay.
Billy
Think New York. Eat a W.
Matt Jones
J. Oh, they're still.
Billy
Paying James 2.2 million this year.
Drew Franklin
Wow. They're paying Jamis, so that's six. But we still have two more.
Matt Jones
Who was it when it was so bad when they rolled the dice on Deshaun?
Drew Franklin
Oh, no, no. Are they paying the kid from ucla? Thompson.
Billy
That's in with the Raiders, Dorian Thompson Robinson.
Drew Franklin
Okay, so they're still paying him.
Matt Jones
I got the other one. Pick it.
Billy
That's it.
Matt Jones
That's what I was trying to.
Drew Franklin
Well, that's pretty good. We got all eight. That's. I can't believe they're still paying the Dorian Thompson Robinson.
Matt Jones
Can't believe they're paying half the names.
Drew Franklin
Wow. And between all of those, no one's good.
Matt Jones
Yeah. How many of those guys are even still throwing a football?
Drew Franklin
Well, they're all in the league somewhere.
Matt Jones
But they're not throwing footballs.
Drew Franklin
They have eight guys and not one of them is good.
Matt Jones
That's got. I know it's an NFL franchise. This is kind of normal. Not to this point, but it's got to hurt an accounting writing these checks. Some of these checks. These guys that are. Yeah, their careers are pretty much over. They did nothing for you and you're still just paying them.
Drew Franklin
But you know, the Reds in baseball last year was the last year they were still paying Ken Griffey Jr. At.
Matt Jones
Least that when you're writing it, you're writing it to King Griffey Jr. You're writing a check to Kenny Pickett.
Drew Franklin
But isn't that a crazy stat that they were paying. I think it was like two years ago, King Griffey Jr. Was the third highest paid player on the roster.
Matt Jones
Just old, gray haired, sitting at home, still getting money.
Drew Franklin
And everyone else was like, there were 23 guys being paid less than Ken Griffey Jr. Let's go to Miami. The Chargers beat the Dolphins. Dolphins with got the lead late, but then Chargers. Justin Herbert makes a last minute drive. Had a couple of great throws on the drive to get him in field goal range. Then Dicker the kicker makes the kick. Justin Herbert with a great drive. That's nice, but really the story's the Dolphins. Which is more interesting to you? Tua's comments after the game, which were pretty tone deaf and clueless. Or Mike McDaniel's pants that he was wearing that were hiked up to his knees. The jogger pants.
Matt Jones
Let's do the pants. He wears the Caprice. Right. I didn't see today's pair, but he, he does it every week.
Drew Franklin
He does, he, he takes thinks like what I'm wearing, but then he like, he jacks it up to like right there and then walks around. What do you think of that as a look for an NFL coach?
Matt Jones
I'm not a fan. I even today saw people doing that at the airport, was like pulled up and whatever. Where you want to Wear, especially the airport.
Drew Franklin
But it just.
Matt Jones
It just seems unnecessary. Just. Just. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I mean, there is a sense that it's a. It's a. It's a sport full of tea. Yeah. And that feels like a low T thing, Right?
Matt Jones
Like their capri pants or. It's like he's pulling them up intentionally if they were designed that way. All right. You got a weird pair of pants. Maybe your tailor is just really bad at getting your inside, though.
Drew Franklin
Did the same thing.
Matt Jones
It's weird. I don't need my coaches to, you know, look all professional over there. But it does feel a little.
Drew Franklin
But it also means that at the. As of this moment, the capri pants coaches are 1 in 11.
Matt Jones
That should tell them enough.
Drew Franklin
I feel like that says maybe you shouldn't do it.
Matt Jones
Yeah. The NFL great coaches of all time. Any of them wearing the capri pants.
Drew Franklin
That's true. Who could you see in capri pants last? I think I don't actually. I can now see Jordan. Jordan asked him to wear. I can see Jordan saying, you need to update your resume.
Billy
Tom Landry.
Drew Franklin
With that hat. Wearing the Caprice pants would be funny. Same with Vince Lombardi. I would like that. So after the game, to a said that they had players only meetings this week and that some players didn't come and the others were very late. That's not a good sign, is it? No.
Matt Jones
I probably would have just not mentioned the meeting at all.
Drew Franklin
He also said the leaders on this team are going to have to step up. Presumably he would be one of those.
Matt Jones
Tyreek. He literally can't step up. He's on crutches. So throw him out. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Who else is it going to be?
Matt Jones
Usually leadership of a team, you can look straight at the quarterback. Start there again. Check the box. That's two of here. They're just a complete mess. I don't even know what you do.
Drew Franklin
There was no one at that game. Did you see the crowd?
Matt Jones
I didn't see the crowd.
Drew Franklin
And there was no one. I mean, part of it is you're playing the Chargers, who themselves have no fans, but there was no one at the game. It was. It was empty. And. And they also said, you remember it was in the preseason that they said tardiness was an issue last year. So clearly that people just will not be on time. Don't you have to get rid of Mike McDaniels? Like this comes out hopefully Monday morning. I would assume Mike McDaniel's gone very soon after, right?
Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean, the Capris. One thing that's Funny, but like his, his bit of where he acts like he's like just a. A teenager that sits in his room and plays video games and they're losing. Yeah. When your players are not showing up and there doesn't seem to be a lot of discipline and that little gimmick wears thin.
Drew Franklin
Real quick. I think I saw that he has only only like two or three wins against teams with winning records. It's like, it's an amazingly small number for a guy in his third year as a head coach.
Matt Jones
So he doesn't have much left.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I mean, I would think there's a chance when you listen to this, he might be gone. All right. Patriots be the Saints. Saints once again, surprisingly spry and competitive. But Drake May. What was the stat you said, Bill? You had, you had a stat about him. Some historic.
Billy
Yeah. So Drake May joins Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott and Dan Marino as the only quarterbacks age 23 or younger with 200 plus passing yards and a hundred plus passer rating in five consecutive games.
Drew Franklin
Pagers are four and two. That's a lot of words. But. But it sounds impressive. Are you. I mean, I said last week that Drake May, that was the coming out party. Are you in on Drake May? Like completely. Are you ready to say top level quarterback?
Matt Jones
I am not. Not like superstar level, but definitely a guy that, you know. If I'm a Patriots fan, I'm excited to have Drake May on my team.
Drew Franklin
He's.
Matt Jones
I don't know the exact number he had. Him hadn't had many turnovers this year. Variables got them playing a fun brand of football. I like Drake May. I have the weird Luke May connection from the North Carolina. That, that still makes me a little uncomfortable. But Drake May does look like to be the future. They're in good hands and they have.
Drew Franklin
A lot of winnable games on their schedule. I mean they play. Here's the next few weeks. Titans, Browns, Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins. I mean that is a really easy. That is a very easy schedule. They have a chance to be something like, you know, 13 and 4 or 12 and 5, something like that.
Matt Jones
And you mentioned it next week. Variable going back to Nashville where they booted him out. You know they're going to win that one easily.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I don't know how good they actually are because the Saints could have won this game. The Saints were pretty competitive in this game throughout. They had the ball at the end with a chance to make a drive. There's nothing that scares you less than Spencer Rattler has the ball with a chance to drive down the field. I had the world's strongest man, Mark Henry as my celebrity guest.
Matt Jones
Yes, Nation of domination.
Drew Franklin
And we were in a short time frame so I had said to Mark, listen, you can't like on these games. You're just going to have to do like a sentence on each game. He did, except when it came time to pick Patriot Saints, he had a good 30 second rant about how bad Spencer Rattler was. It was like I touched a nerve with Mark Henry. He's like, I'm going to get out my Spencer Rattler take no matter what you say.
Matt Jones
Even though Spencer Rattler until today was on a one game win streak in his career.
Drew Franklin
No, he was like, I watched Spencer Rattler playing college. He was bad then, he's bad now. I was like, all right, Mark, it's.
Matt Jones
Okay to give Spencer and the Saints a little bit of credit.
Drew Franklin
They were competitive.
Matt Jones
They were competitive today against a very good team. They beat the Giants a week ago and you know, they never were going to beat Buffalo, but. But what was that spread, like 17 and a half? They played Buffalo close to the fourth quarter. So you know they don't. You're not going to make the playoffs with moral victories. But they haven't been absolutely trash in the last three weeks.
Drew Franklin
The Rams beat the Ravens 17 to 3. The less said about this game, the better if you I the Broncos Jets I thought was the worst game I'd ever seen. And then I remembered that the Rams Ravens red zone only showed 45 seconds of this game. It was terrible.
Matt Jones
I didn't get to watch the first half. Well, when I finally pulled it up on my phone, it was three to three at halftime and I'm like, I don't even care to even know anything else about this game. If it's three to three at halftime when two teams that were supposed to be super bowl contenders are playing each.
Drew Franklin
Other, that's an extreme Brady on this game. This was, I mean this was the Brady game.
Matt Jones
I mean just with the logos. This is a huge game.
Drew Franklin
And they benched Cooper Rush for Snoop Huntley. I don't know, I don't know who that's worse for your Cooper Rush. You got to be like, I mean, I get it when they put Dak back in, but Snoop, Snoop, he had.
Matt Jones
Derek Henry today and couldn't even score points. Derek Henry finally had a big game after doing nothing the last week. The Rams are the biggest shock in the league this year for the Rams.
Drew Franklin
To, to win by 14 and still be like, yeah, we stunk. That's. That's a. That's a bad game. That was. The less said about that, the better. Colts and Cardinals, however, was actually a great game, but Colts win 3,127. But there's only one thing that matters about this game, which is the pregame injuries. I know The Colts are 5 and 1, but they had two players get hurt during warmups. Seriously hurt.
Matt Jones
Scary.
Drew Franklin
Anthony Richardson with an orbital fracture. He was apparently using one of those bands that you use to stretch, and it snapped and hit him in the eye and broke his face.
Matt Jones
Crazy. I almost said, how does that happen?
Drew Franklin
I mean, I don't want to make fun of him because that's not. But that feels like something I would have done normally. You would think the person that does that. Not the most coordinated person in the world. Right.
Matt Jones
Probably not my quarterback. Second quarterback.
Drew Franklin
How do you. How does that happen?
Matt Jones
You know, it. Was it one of those things where he looked around like. I hope that wasn't on camera. He immediately looks.
Drew Franklin
No, he was on the ground in pain. He snapped himself in the face. That's what he did. And then he was out.
Billy
Had to go to the hospital.
Matt Jones
The other one where the guy.
Drew Franklin
He had to go to the hospital.
Billy
The orbital fracture.
Drew Franklin
What does that mean? It's. I guess, what your.
Billy
Like the.
Drew Franklin
Your cheek.
Billy
I think it's your eye.
Matt Jones
It's just the bones fractured.
Drew Franklin
So it was the bones. Okay, so he broke his face.
Billy
Yeah, more or less.
Matt Jones
Just warming up.
Drew Franklin
He must have really been stretching, though. Like, I can't pull those bands far enough that it would do that.
Matt Jones
He probably had this. I would have gone down a band. I forget the color, what the order is.
Drew Franklin
Green, yellow. He should have done one more. One lesson. And then Chavarius Ward and another player. This video is crazy. Are both running routes and don't see each other and just knock each other out.
Matt Jones
Like, no helmets on. That was scary. Especially war. The cornerback, I mean, he just goes motionless on the ground there. I don't know. I mean, you know, they're in their different kind of stations doing different drills and just warming up.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Or, you know, if you. I guess he's kind of looking back a little bit. This is a fluke thing to happen. But. Yeah, they're too close together. And somebody should have hit him with a. Hey, hey, hey, hey. But I guess it happened so fast, you know, you.
Drew Franklin
If you're the Colts, you get one bad injury during warmups. Do you just look. All right, guys, let's take it in.
Matt Jones
Yeah. If we're not even hitting each other yet and we have a guy in the hospital and one out cold.
Drew Franklin
You have two in the course of. Apparently they happen within like eight minutes of each other.
Matt Jones
Oh, no. Well, I guess it had to have been just on the field, warming up before the game. Yeah.
Billy
You just pack it in at that point.
Drew Franklin
I think you do. And then they still won the game. It was actually a very competitive game. Cardinals played Jacoby Brissette. I feel like every time Jacoby Brissette plays, he's better than a lot of quarterbacks that play. Right.
Matt Jones
Backup to have.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. But I would think if you're like the Saints or the jets, why is he not on your team? I feel like every time he plays last year he cost or he cost the Patriots that one year. The first pick in the draft. Right. Because he went. Won the final game. I don't know why he doesn't get to play more.
Matt Jones
Yeah. We've mentioned teams that need to go out and find a new quarterback. We've wondered, should someone call Shador? I mean, that's a name I would certainly consider. I mean, he's been bouncing around a lot. He's got to be getting old. I feel like he's been around.
Drew Franklin
Like he's been around for a long. Because he played for the Colts and the Patriots twice. He was back up with the Colts and then he was the Patriots. He was. Brady's back up a little bit.
Matt Jones
He was a Dolphin at one point.
Drew Franklin
He was a Dolphin. Well, now he's. Now he's with the Cardinals. Do you believe in the Colts as a contender?
Matt Jones
I do.
Drew Franklin
As a contender?
Matt Jones
Yeah. I hate the. It's just. It's been like every week. They just look too good. They've had plenty of opportunities to fall off. They've had tough games. I think we've even said, all right, this is the week the Colts come back down to earth and they just.
Drew Franklin
But you're willing to say contender.
Matt Jones
I'm saying contender.
Drew Franklin
That's a strong statement. I don't know if I'm there yet.
Matt Jones
Rolled in there like the AFC teams. Right. When I'm ready to think, all right, this is the one, then they go out and lay an egg. And I think the AFC is a little more open than we thought it was going to be a few weeks ago.
Drew Franklin
You're probably right now, most random statistic maybe in. Seahawks beat the Jaguars 20 to 12. The Seahawks have won nine straight road games.
Matt Jones
They got to get rid of the twelfth man.
Drew Franklin
Then at Home, but yet they're great.
Matt Jones
So.
Drew Franklin
I mean, they. I don't know what their home record is, but if. If I told you there's a team in the NFL that's won nine straight road games, you would have guessed 15 teams before you guessed the Seahawks, wouldn't you?
Greg Rosenthal
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, for one, I wouldn't think anyone would be capable of doing that. But it would have to be Bills, Chiefs.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. You'd be one of the big dogs.
Matt Jones
No, that's crazy. Nine straight ropes get in Jacksonville.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Liam Cohen said that the dysfunction today was unacceptable, but he didn't use the word dysfunction, which isn't it. You the leader that would cause the dysfunction. He didn't say execution. He said dysfunction.
Matt Jones
What did he say? Was his tone kind of like calling himself out or players or what? Because that is calling out the overall operation.
Drew Franklin
I didn't feel like he was putting it on the players. I mean, I think he was putting it kind of on every. On everybody. Travis Hunter had a huge drop in this game. Like, there was a big play. You know, they haven't gone to him a lot. There's a big play. It was right in his hands, and he drops it, and they end up having to punt. And then I don't even know if they got the ball back after that. That was big. You know, you keep waiting. He's had a couple.
Matt Jones
Mom.
Drew Franklin
He had a moment against the Chiefs last week, but still probably not worthy of what we've seen as a second pick.
Matt Jones
And right when I was ready to crown Jacksonville as a team to watch. This is a game I thought they'd win.
Drew Franklin
They need. If you're gonna be good, you gotta win this.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Especially at home. I didn't know about the eight straight wins for the Seahawks going into this game on the road, but I still was disappointed Jacksonville didn't get done. I thought they'd win this one.
Drew Franklin
Titans, man.
Matt Jones
It's. It's really. I was in the airport today at that sports bar, mentioned the table next to me. They were into the NFL. They had their computers out doing, like, fantasy whatever in an airport bar.
Drew Franklin
I hate those people, by the way.
Matt Jones
I did, too. I almost asked them if you have.
Drew Franklin
A computer out following your fantasy team. You're a dork.
Matt Jones
And not even, like at home on your cat like you're at an airport.
Drew Franklin
I mean, you're in.
Matt Jones
Somewhere.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. If you're at home and you check your. That's fine. Check it on your phone, that's fine. But if you pull out a computer in a Public space to check your fantasy team. You're a dork. And you. You need to be. I would have. I would have yelled at him.
Matt Jones
I know my team's bad. I still love them. I'm the only one allowed to make fun of them.
Drew Franklin
Are they going to win the game this year? I know they won just a week or two ago.
Matt Jones
That's the only reason they won. That is because they're so bad at tanking. They had to get a win somewhere because they can't even tank right to get the number one pick. They're awful. I liked Ward for about three weeks today. He was objective.
Drew Franklin
You're done with him already.
Matt Jones
I'm not done with him, but like, I was excited about him.
Drew Franklin
He looked horrible. He did look really good.
Matt Jones
Horrible. I know he doesn't have any help. I'm not saying he won't become something on down the road, but I'm not even excited to watch him have like two good.
Drew Franklin
What is more depressing? Tennessee Titans football. Kentucky football.
Matt Jones
See, that's just. You just named my weekends in the fall. They're both so depressing. I'm going to say the Titans.
Drew Franklin
I think they are because this, this.
Matt Jones
Team is bad and Callahan's awful. But their draft picks going back the last six, seven years and there's no transfer portal. I know we've. The GM has change three times the last few years. It is just. The whole operation is embarrassing.
Drew Franklin
James Franklin got fired. Should the Titans coach have followed him out the door?
Matt Jones
Yes. Game day was at Oregon. It's. The sun's not even up yet. It's so early in the morning and right behind the game day set, there's a fire Brian Callahan sign at the Oregon game. So it's made its way to college football Saturdays.
Drew Franklin
Since you brought up game day, Billy Pat McAfee is 40 years old, right?
Billy
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Why is he always taking his shirt off?
Billy
Well, they gotta have.
Drew Franklin
Why is everybody taking their shirt off?
Billy
They gotta.
Drew Franklin
Who's. Who's asking for that? Who's the person that says I would like. I would like the shirts off?
Billy
Well, I don't think the shirt is the specific ask, but there's a void now that Lee Corso's got.
Drew Franklin
I'm fine with the. Like, I'm fine with all that. Like he can do all that. That gets. But why the shirt off? Like Dan Lanning took his shirt off too. Did you see that? At 6:30 in the morning or whatever.
Matt Jones
Yeah. And then Thursday Night football. Ron Fitzpatrick takes his shirt off.
Drew Franklin
That one's a Little better because he's.
Matt Jones
Got the dad bod.
Drew Franklin
Exactly. If you're going to take your shirt off, if you're going to take your shirt off, be fat, big chest hair if it's fun. But McAfee's in just good enough shape that it seems like he's like bragging by doing it. You know what I mean? Like if Jason Kelsey wants to take his shirt off, I'm good with it. Right? That 360 pound lineman for Alabama, take your shirt off. But what McAfee, what is that? Why can't he just go like that's fine. Why can't he just do that?
Billy
You know, I don't know. Is it a manly thing to take your shirt off? You know, it's on. We're here ready to go.
Matt Jones
But you're doing a broadcast like on a set, previewing a game.
Drew Franklin
I just want you to think about what 20 years ago. Like imagine you were watching the news and Tom Brokaw just took his shirt off.
Matt Jones
Oh, that would have been awesome.
Billy
I think we would have loved that.
Drew Franklin
But even in sports, right? Brent Musburger, you are looking live. You are looking live at my nipples.
Matt Jones
I think more, more shows need to incorporate this. Your bro call image that's now burned in my head right now. Keith Morrison on Dateline. Let's just rip that again.
Drew Franklin
Madden for it. I think Madden would have been great doing it.
Matt Jones
Tom Brady.
Drew Franklin
No Tom Brady, we don't need it. You're too good looking.
Matt Jones
What about Chris Collinsworth? Cause we're one Pat Mahomes two yard run away from that.
Drew Franklin
I think his shirt's off during the game.
Matt Jones
Now they it on before they cut to the booth shot. We're going live to Chris, put the shirt on.
Drew Franklin
Porto Rico, please get your quarter zip on for just a minute. Anyway, I don't know how I got off on that. Cowboys losing Carolina to the Panthers 30 to 27. Rico Dow Dell. You may remember last week he said they're going to remember my name. Jerry Jones was asked before the game about that comment. He said he did one of the ooh. He was like, ooh, our players can't even come out there SCO's. Well, they did remember his name. 236 yards or 339 yards from scrimmage.
Matt Jones
Yeah, he absolutely lit them up. It's his first year not being a cowboy. He was there four or five years. I'm a Cowboys guy but I was pretty happy for Dallas to call a shot.
Drew Franklin
Yes.
Matt Jones
I didn't think the Panthers could actually Win this one. But it was a good moment for him.
Drew Franklin
He's had two huge weeks back to back.
Matt Jones
Had the door open that gave him a chance last week and he ran through that door and has made the most of it.
Drew Franklin
Jerry Jones did like Bill Murray and Kingpin. Well, he put it in their face. Panthers are three and three. Bryce Young, like, I mean, are they something? I mean, you're not.
Matt Jones
I'm not ready to call Bryce Young anything but the Panthers three and three. Oh, no. Yeah. I mean the winds. Was it Dolphins last week? I think.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Not trying to downplay too much.
Drew Franklin
They had. So let me give you the schedule.
Matt Jones
30 and oh, shut out of the.
Drew Franklin
Falcons started all this play the jets next week.
Matt Jones
Okay. That's a win.
Drew Franklin
4 and 3. Then they got the Bills and the packers. But then after that, saints, falcons, 49ers, rams, saints, you know.
Matt Jones
Okay. They'll. They'll win.
Drew Franklin
They'll beat the Jets. Yeah, they'll probably get brought to earth when the Bills come to town.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, they're not winning their division.
Drew Franklin
I don't know.
Matt Jones
They're going to get a wild card spot, but still nice though, to see.
Drew Franklin
Him be not as sad.
Matt Jones
Yeah, they're turning the corner. I don't know if Bryce Young's a big part of them turning the corner, but Rico Dowdle. The last two weeks been a big.
Drew Franklin
Part about the Cowboys. You know, they're. They're having a magical year from DAG and still they're what, two, two and one or whatever.
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's two and two or three. The defense can't stop anybody. It's the deck year Cowboys fans wanted forever ago and he's finally given it to them. And they're, they're just, they're awful.
Drew Franklin
But they've got. I mean, they shouldn't be Pickens. That trade was great for Pickens. He's been awesome. Dak looks good. But their defense, they just, they don't have it.
Matt Jones
Russell Wilson, I think it was like 41 points, 45 points. When you, when you let Russell Wilson take the giants into the 40s on you, your defense has big holes.
Drew Franklin
We'll finish with the pack. Packers win against the Bengals 27 18. Bengals looked awful in the first half. Flacco was learning the playbook. But then by the second half they had a pulse. You think they. I mean, you know, they're two and four. That's about what they are every year at this time. Can Flacco get some wins until you can get burrow by the end of the year. You just, you're done. I mean, I thought second half Flacco played well.
Matt Jones
I was so in on Joe Flacco today, watching him. I wanted him to beat the packers twice in one season with the Bengals and Browns. He, he almost threw it 50 something times today. I didn't expect that. But if you told me Joe Flacco had had two touchdowns, no interceptions, and you know, 200 some yards in that debut game after stopping at the flea market on his way down from Cleveland, then yeah, I would take that. As a Bengals fan, I don't know if that's going to turn into much for the year, but they made the right move. Moving on from Brown.
Drew Franklin
Jamar Chase likes him more. Yeah, I mean, it's clear he likes, likes him. I, you know, we have to get used to the fact that we now work with the NFL. You can see these logos behind us. So sometimes I'm like, are there things in life that I say, can I say them now? Because I used to be. My standard was, can I say this in front of my mom? But I know my mom doesn't know what everything means. Now I have to sit and think, can I say this in front of.
Matt Jones
Jerry Jones and Roger Goodell?
Drew Franklin
And Roger Goodell, who's watching. So I don't think I can read what Jamar Chase said about the game next week to the Steelers. Do you think I can just say what he said?
Billy
Yeah, probably not to be recorded here on a podcast.
Drew Franklin
You don't think, you don't think I can say this? But this was his quote. It was his quote.
Billy
It might get bleeped like the Titans famous catchphrase that we say so often.
Drew Franklin
Oh, it gets bleeped.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that gets bleeped. I'll stop saying it so much. He said it in an NFL press conference.
Drew Franklin
Well, Jamar Chase said this today too. Well, we'll just leave it. I'll paraphrase they would like to beat us next week.
Matt Jones
I remember some, some terms in there.
Billy
A lot of liberties were taken.
Drew Franklin
I'm just. That's a paraphrase of what he said.
Matt Jones
I remember a few other lines in there. Well, you could, let's just say he's excited for the, for the game.
Drew Franklin
You could look it up. McPherson, the Bengals kicker, he had a 67 yarder at the end of the first half. He kicked him. It hit the goal post and went through all time NFL record longest kick in the history of the league. But the packers had called timeout right before he kicked it. He then missed it the second time. Do you think they should be allowed to call the timeout right before the kick?
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean it stinks for Evan McPherson that he had a record taken away. But if you're a Packers fan or lafleur who called it, I mean, you got to be patting yourself on the back like, yeah, nailed that, nailed that. Icing him right there, there.
Drew Franklin
As a fan, do you, I mean, like, you don't want to see that, do you?
Matt Jones
Part of the game. If you're a Packers fan, you probably loved it when that happened.
Drew Franklin
Well, now the, the packers kicker, me, if I can say his name right, Lucas, have. Have written Rennie's rising.
Matt Jones
Sounds about right.
Drew Franklin
We'll just call him Lucas. Lucas. He was signed this week to kick. They were asking him what he was doing before and he, he's like been signed by like four teams but not gotten to kick. Today he got to K and he said, if they hadn't signed me, I was probably just going to substitute teach. Wow. I root for that guy.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Brian, also, of all things you do, like I'm going to substitute.
Drew Franklin
Is there any profession you get less respect than a substitute teacher? Like, if I've tried to think about what are the jobs that on a day to day basis people treat you the worst. I know, number one. But I think substitute teaching has to be in the top five, especially if you're doing high school. Now, little kids.
Matt Jones
See, I had a lot of substitute teachers, they would walk in, they would turn on a movie and they would sit down and not say a word. And we loved them. We knew if we had Mr. Gilbert, he would come in, he would fall asleep at the desk. So we would get away with whatever we wanted. He was out cold. Cool Runnings was on the TV and we're all goofing off in the class. So I think some substitute teachers don't fall into this.
Drew Franklin
I saw a substitute gym teacher at Middlesbrough High School write Enoch huff. He wrote 43 detentions for him in one class.
Matt Jones
It's tough.
Drew Franklin
He just kept writing it because he would go, if you say anything again, Enoch, I'll write it. And he'd write it. And then he said anything. And he just kept doing it. And he walked. And I was working in the office, he walked and handed 43 detentions in.
Matt Jones
That's nuts. Now imagine that guy and the principal.
Drew Franklin
Is like, I mean I, I can't do 43.
Matt Jones
The real teacher comes back and throws those.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, maybe one, maybe.
Matt Jones
But imagine that guy then going and kicking for the packers because that's kind of what this guy did. He could have been writing detentions, but instead he's in Lambo blasting field goals.
Drew Franklin
Profession where you get the most hair, without question, has to be the person that's working. Where people complain about lost baggage at the airport.
Matt Jones
I was going to say the gate agent at an airport. Lost baggage.
Drew Franklin
Lost baggage has to be the worst because no one's coming to the. At least with the gate agent, there'll be people who are like, oh, have a nice day. And they'll scan their ticket. Good luck.
Matt Jones
Thank you. We're heading to Disney.
Drew Franklin
When you work in the luggage thing, no one's coming to you. Happy? No one. There's no reason to talk to those people unless you're mad.
Matt Jones
And you. The luggage person had nothing to do with it. They're just sitting in a chair. Their hands were completely free of all this.
Drew Franklin
And if they don't know where your bag is, you're mad at them.
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah. And you're telling them to find it and they're telling you. I don't have a damn way of finding it right now.
Drew Franklin
I just have this computer screen. What do you want from me?
Matt Jones
All I can promise you is it'll show up at your house in a van in the next 48 hours.
Billy
Can I throw in Little League umpire or AAU ref?
Drew Franklin
AAU ref would be bad. Little League umpire. It's little kids probably most of the time. It's okay. AAU ref's got to be back because nobody says the AAU ref. Man, great job. You really called a good one today.
Billy
All those parents traveling.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, a ref. I like that one.
Matt Jones
That one's hot.
Drew Franklin
You got one, nerd.
Matt Jones
Oh, my. We both had the same thought on the airport gate agent. Trying to think of someone you call and complain. Anyone that's just taking the phone calls angry.
Drew Franklin
So those. Those are the games. Let's look at some of our leagues here. Drew's already out of the Survivor League. Billy and I are still in it. I had the Packers. They won. Although, you know, it wasn't easy. You, Billy, had the Colts. You were in a close one a lot of the day. But you and I both continue to move on for another week.
Billy
Yes.
Matt Jones
Exciting.
Billy
In our two man race here in the survivor pool.
Drew Franklin
But for people who don't know, last year we did a 50 person race and the two finalists were Billy and former number one pick Tim couch. And it was a celebrity league. 50 celebrities and Billy, 49 celebrities. And Billy. And Billy was one of the last two People left. And in our three person league here, Billy is again one of the last two people left.
Matt Jones
He's a pro.
Drew Franklin
So you're pretty good at the survivor League.
Billy
I'll see if I can finish the job this time.
Drew Franklin
Okay. In our touchdown league, Drew had Saquon Barkley. He did not score a touchdown. You had Devonte Adams. No touchdown. Touchdown. I had Daniel Jones who did score a touchdown. So I got a point. Now Billy has two, I have two and Drew, you have one.
Matt Jones
I need to get some wins here. You know, not being in the Survivor league thing is already embarrassing, doesn't it? Well, it's, it's, it's not that I'm heard that someone else is going to win, it's that I just have to sit here awkwardly while you all talk about it. I'm like just feel like I'm not even a part of the show during that segment.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, no, that is a problem. It's fun. Survivor leagues are fun. Like we already have to sit and think what are we going to do next week? Drew doesn't even go to the bathroom.
Matt Jones
I'll be right back. You guys talk about your league?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Two. Two. Let's talk real quick about the Thursday night and the Monday night games. Eagles lose to the Giants. Are you on the Scatterbo train?
Matt Jones
Love him. Love him. I was already on this train really before we even got drafted by the Giants. I liked watching him in college, but now that he's doing the NFL, the same stuff, blocking an offensive lineman or defensive lineman pancake in them. We mentioned it several times how he just keeps getting dirty when they're playing on turf. I don't understand it, but he's just so fun. He's an old school football player that you don't see very much anymore.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, he and Jackson Dart a lot of excitement in New York City. Neither of them kind of feel New York in there, but the city seems to love them and they've been, they've added some, some fun.
Matt Jones
I thought that when they did their, their interview on the field, it's just the two of them and I'm kind of thinking like this is the face of the Giants, these two dudes that when they got drafted both of them had concerns of like, well these guys even pan out at all now. Giants fans love them both.
Drew Franklin
You think they boss be getting trouble for trying to storm in the 10th there?
Matt Jones
I didn't see that part. You have to catch me.
Drew Franklin
So Jackson Dart got put in the injury tent. They were checking him for a concussion and it was a big fourth down. Oh, he's. And Dave all wanted him to play well. Then just. He kind of walked in like, all right, get him out of here. We need him. He later apologized and said that he screwed that up.
Matt Jones
Coaches in the moment. This has happened before. You know, there's the concussion protocol and you get the test. There's been clips in the past of coaches that are like, let's speed up this protocol. Get him back out there. But let's check on their heads and make sure they're pretty good.
Drew Franklin
You can't really do that anymore, but.
Matt Jones
If you look at that pretty seriously.
Drew Franklin
Stuck his head in the tent like, hey, now. Yeah.
Matt Jones
It's like helping him with the test so he passes it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. But they still won the game. All right, Monday Night Football this is. We're taping this late on Sunday night. So we got the Bills at the Falcons. I take the view. Don't ever bet on a Falcons game one way or the other. But I'm big on the Bills here. They're not losing to it.
Matt Jones
Me too. And if it's just a low spread, if I'm not mistaken, I'm sure. Yeah. Three and a half. I'm going to hammer that one. Bill shouldn't have lost last week. They'll bounce back and win big here.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think they. And I would think a lot of Bills fans will make the trip to that game. And then the big one is Bears commanders. I think it's a huge game for Caleb Williams, though.
Matt Jones
You.
Drew Franklin
I mean, in terms of. It was last year that the Hail Mary flipped. It really flipped. The Bears season also kind of launched Jaden Daniels into the conversation. Is one of the great players, certainly the best rookie last year. Now you flip it now you're playing there. Chance to get it back. I think it's a big game for them.
Matt Jones
And what, y' all have won two in a row?
Drew Franklin
They have. Yeah. Yeah.
Matt Jones
There's some optimism. You go win a primetime game like this with all things you just said, and you can really think that maybe Caleb Williams and the Bears are on the right track here.
Drew Franklin
Well, it looks that way. If so many quarterbacks in that class and they're starting to kind of get into tears. Right. Like, so Jaden Daniels and Drake may feel pretty good. J.J. mcCarthy, Michael Pennix, I don't know that you can say one way or the other. Bo Nix has been solid. But you really don't know where to put Caleb Williams yet. Like, it's not really clear which group he's in. This would be a good chance to say I should be in that top group.
Matt Jones
Definitely. And I can't speak for your fan base, but it seems like the last couple weeks there's been a little more belief in him. A lot of the bus talk is evapor. So if you go win a Monday Night Football game and if he plays well, that'll. I think that'll be. I don't know if it'll move him up a tier or not, but it'll answer some questions.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I think this would be. If he can. If he can play well. You know, I feel good that, that May and. And Daniels are going to be good. Knicks. I still don't know. I'm kind of got Caleb there. I want to put him in that. In that, in that top crowd group. So there you go. Next week. Do we have another London game next week? How many London games are left?
Matt Jones
There's a lot this year.
Drew Franklin
Are they playing them? Are they playing them every week?
Billy
Billy, do you know there is one at Wembley Stadium in London? Rams and Jacksonville.
Matt Jones
They love the Jags.
Drew Franklin
Although they are both teams are four and two. On paper, that. That doesn't sound like a good game, but that might be the best game they get over there this year. Right?
Matt Jones
I'd say if London had a team, it's the Jaguars. So this is, this is their big game here. The Jaguars. Big game for them.
Billy
Yeah, I wasn't going to attempt that, but yeah.
Drew Franklin
Well, thank you folks, very much. Nice to have you back.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
From the wedding. If you're. If you.
Matt Jones
Congratulations to Michael and Becca, by the way.
Drew Franklin
Congrats to Michael and Becca and NFL Cover Zero. Thank you all very much for listening. Like, subscribe, tell your friends or people you meet on the street. We'll see you Wednesday. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Billy
Producer/Contributors: Greg Rosenthal
Podcast: KSR - iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)
This episode of NFL Cover Zero dives deep into NFL Week 6, focusing on the resurgence of the Kansas City Chiefs, a classic performance by Aaron Rodgers, major storylines from the week, and the wackiest and most notable moments from across the league. Hosts Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, joined by Billy, bring humor and insightful takes while dissecting pivotal plays, coaching decisions, MVP races, injury woes, and more. The episode is an engaging mix of analysis, game breakdowns, playful banter, and listener-friendly stats.
On Travis Kelsey’s “get in shape later” approach:
On Chris Collinsworth’s love for Mahomes:
On the Jets’ offensive woes:
On the Browns’ QB payroll:
On pregame injuries:
On substitute teaching:
Lighthearted, quick-witted, and irreverently knowledgeable, with friendly banter and vibrant NFL analysis. Sports satire and pop culture references run throughout; hosts maintain a conversational, approachable tone while still conveying deep football expertise. Their playful digs, running jokes (“cheeks”), and league-wide context make the episode accessible even for casual fans.
A must-listen for NFL fans seeking sharp insights, big laughs, and the latest drama from around the league, all in the company of friends who love the game as much as you do.