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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Daniel Jeremiah
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Drew Franklin
NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and Iheart Podcast. It's week nine of NFL Cover Zero coming you one day late. So I'm sorry for all of you all that are used to seeing this on your feet on Wednesdays. You had to wait one more day. But you know what? Sometimes life gets in the way. But we are excited to be here previewing everything you need to know about The NFL season, where it's midweek Thursday. Tonight there's a football game. Drew, good to see you. It's. It's rainy and junky here in Kentucky, but getting ready for another big week.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, rainy and junkie means a good reason to not do anything but stay inside and watch more football. So bring on the rain. I got a nice fresh pot of chili ready for the weekend. I'm ready to watch some of the big games we have coming up.
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Drew Franklin
I. Unfortunately, as I talked about Sunday, I had a back injury this weekend, so I watched the most football I've ever watched, probably while I was also in pain. It was a bad weekend to pick that, but, you know, backs aren't fun. And it's getting better now. I'm ready. I saw Tracy McGrady, the basketball player, he was doing. He was talking about how before every season he would get an epidural. Is that the word?
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Matt Jones
I believe so.
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Drew Franklin
An epidural every season so that he could play due to his back. I thought that was something only pregnant women get. So I was thinking, why not get an epidural for these podcasts so that I could get through the whole year without having a back injury.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. We sent Billy all over town. Couldn't come up with the show. I've dealt with the back stuff before, too. I don't have it now. I'm in a good place, but when it's at its worst, I would rather have two broken arms than a bad back because it just completely takes you out of commission, gets to where you can't even move. And I know you were dealing with that the last few days.
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Drew Franklin
Yes. By the way, what is an epidural?
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Matt Jones
It's like a thing that they shoot.
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Drew Franklin
And then where do they shoot it?
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Matt Jones
I don't know. Like, the thigh.
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Drew Franklin
I'm always amazed at the words we use. Spinal cord, like sports make you.
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Matt Jones
That's it. Oh, Billy gave me. Yes, but what does it do?
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Billy
Injection near your spinal cord.
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Drew Franklin
And what does it do?
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Billy
It's a way to give you anesthesia for surgery or labor pain.
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Drew Franklin
But then it makes it to where I feel amazing.
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Billy
Yeah, I believe so.
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Drew Franklin
Okay. It sounds like you really know, but that was. It's nice. When you follow sports, you think you're a doctor. Like the ACL ligament, anterior cruciate ligament, or what is it? Mellitial collateral limbic ligament. I don't know any other ligaments in the body except those two.
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Matt Jones
I know my injury reports.
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Drew Franklin
I know. But I know what an ACL is. And I also know. Oh, that hurt his Achilles. That's bad.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. We don't want that. I remember there was an episode of this earlier this season where some doctor used some big term, and we tried to figure out what it was on the air and then heard from some actual doctors who basically told us we sounded like idiots.
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Drew Franklin
Lumbar. The. Yeah, lumbar support.
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Billy
L4L5.
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Drew Franklin
L4L5.
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Matt Jones
We were struggling through that a little bit.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. But the thing is, I feel like now that I'm a sports fan, I know that I go to Dr. Andrews for the ACLS. Right. In Bergam, if you do not go.
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Matt Jones
To Dr. Andrews, you're settling for rank.
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Drew Franklin
The most famous doctors. Obviously, Phil is first.
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Matt Jones
Dre.
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Drew Franklin
Dre is there. Oh, Pepper.
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Matt Jones
But Andrews is up there with all of them.
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Drew Franklin
Let me say. Pepper is underrated. Okay. Seuss Zhivago for the. For you literary types.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
And then you're right. But in terms of actual humans, Andrews. I don't know how Birmingham became the place that everybody goes to fix their knees. I mean, there's nothing else on earth you'd go, I need this fixed. Birmingham. But your. But your knees and your ligaments, that's where you go.
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Matt Jones
And I feel like going to see Dr. James Andrews as a social status. Like, most people don't name drop their doctor before they're getting surgery. You just say, I'm going to get surgery. But if you're going to Dr. James.
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Drew Franklin
Andrews, Dr. James Andrews, you gotta let.
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Matt Jones
People know where you're headed.
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Drew Franklin
Feels like you've been alive for a long time, too. So shout out to Dr. James Andrews. I don't know if he wants to give me an epidural, but I don't know if that's his specialty. But if he does, we'd be glad to do it. So we. We just got our first set of podcast numbers for Cover Zero. So, like, we got to see a month's worth of podcast views, and it's amazing how many of you are listening and how many of you are listening from all over different parts of the country. I mean, we were looking at the markets. Obviously, the top two markets tend to be here in Kentucky, where Drew and I are. But they're listening. People listen from all over. One of the higher markets is Cleveland. I'm going to thank Spider and First lady for that from the first episode.
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Matt Jones
Oh, definitely. I would say they were a big reason for a bump with the dog.
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Drew Franklin
Pound, but I do want to see. We didn't have a lot on the Northeast. I feel like The Northeast has not embraced us yet. And so we have to figure out what can we do to get the New York, Boston, Philly. How do we get those people involved? What is it? Where. What is it we're going to do? I don't.
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Matt Jones
I don't know.
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Drew Franklin
Because you.
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Matt Jones
We're working. Even though we're Southern, you and I. Big New York City.
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Drew Franklin
People love New York City.
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Matt Jones
I'm proudly in the south, but I can blend in up there, too, if I need to. So I feel like we should have friends there already.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
If you're out there and you're just trying to figure us out, we can blend in in the North.
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Drew Franklin
I can blend in.
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Matt Jones
I'll go through a table if I need to.
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Drew Franklin
That's exactly. That's exactly. Hey, you know, I can do. I can do the.
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Matt Jones
Watch where you go in here.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'm walking here, so. See, this should work. This should be what they want.
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Matt Jones
Or they just turned it off.
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Drew Franklin
Now, we do have. We do have an announcement to make, though. In two weeks, we are going to be going to Buffalo. That's right. We're going to be going to Buffalo. We're going to go to our first Bills game. It is Bills and Colts. Is that right?
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Matt Jones
No. Bills box. Yeah. Bills. Bucks.
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Drew Franklin
Close enough. Very similar. The Bills and the Tampa Bay are going to play in Buffalo. We're going to be going. We want to have the whole Bills experience. I'm going to be doing my ESPN show from there. We're going to be doing the COVID Zero podcast. So here's the first thing. We need a bar in Buffalo that is close to the stadium. That's going to be like our home base. So we need to know who to contact. Who do we contact to figure out where we should go in Buffalo to do the whole Bills thing? So I have a text machine. Here's the number. It is 772-7745254. Those of you listening, 772-7745-254. And if you're in Buffalo or you have Buffalo connections, where should we go do the show? Are you excited to go to your first Buffalo Bills home game?
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Matt Jones
Absolutely. I mean, just a couple weeks ago, we ranked bucket list NFL trips. Believe that was number one. Also, you know me pretty well. I like to tailgate. I feel like me and the Mafia might get along a little bit. I'll have to remember that we're doing a podcast later that night so I don't join the Mafia too much and leave you and Billy here to talk to each other. I'll have to keep myself on a pitch count, but I'm excited just to get up there and experience what is the best fan base in the NFL.
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Drew Franklin
Now we're going to drive, which is what most people like to do when they go to Buffalo. They like. They like to drive. Now you're probably sitting there going, okay, Matt, that sounds fun. Driving to Buffalo sounds like it would be the best thing in the world. But you're then thinking, how do we get. And I give you a few of the cities we're going to go through on our trip to Buffalo, please. We are going to go through Columbus. Okay, that's going to be good. Then we're going to go up and we're going to go right through Akron. Hey, LeBron, what's up? Then Cleveland. You probably thought, when am I going to go to Erie, Pennsylvania? The answer is now. And then all the way up I90 to Buffalo, right past Lackawanna and Dunkirk. Are you excited about this?
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Matt Jones
Of course. Most excited about Cleveland since we just saw that we're somewhat known in Cleveland. Maybe our newlywed couple, we could stop by and say hi to them. But no, I love the road trips. Our longtime listeners know this is something we do a lot following Kentucky basketball, and now we get to do another one. But it's with the NFL to go see the Bills play football, so I could not be more excited. And of course, it's Billy's Bucks, so, you know, there's the Billy aspect, too. I'm happy for him.
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Drew Franklin
Billy, are you excited to see the Bucks in person?
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Billy
Person, I am. I'm just a little worried that Bill's mafia might throw me through a table or, like, put ketchup and mustard on me. They do a lot of crazy.
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Drew Franklin
No. Well, we're going to ask you to. We're going to ask them to do that. We were requesting it, but so that. So for people in Buffalo, we will be heading your way. This will be the first time I have been to Buffalo. I've been once, and we just drove through on the way to Niagara Falls. We'll also be. Not only. We're also gonna be very close to Canada. You know, Hamilton, Ontario, is just right across the way. Obviously, Mario doesn't have a passport, so we'll have to leave him in Buffalo. But you and I could go to Canada.
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Matt Jones
We're picking back up on the way through. You know, our boss, Roger, he's big on growing the game internationally. I think if Cover 0 across the border is that.
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Drew Franklin
What are you allowed to call him Roger.
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Matt Jones
I meant Mr. Goodell.
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Drew Franklin
That slipped. I don't know that you've met him.
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Matt Jones
That slipped. That slipped. Mr. Goodell, apologize. Look forward to meeting you. But, you know, this is a good way for Cover Zero to go international, even if we just go have lunch across the border.
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Drew Franklin
So, Buffalo, we're going to see you here soon and we look forward to it. We'll talk more about that in the coming weeks. So here it is the day before Halloween and we have some news items I want to start with, but let's start for a second with Halloween themed. There are two Halloween stories I think are very important. One is Drake May. I've expressed my feelings about sort of rooting against Drake May. I'm about to stop because I'm starting to get people saying that they think it's unbecoming how much I dislike Drake May when I can point to no reason for doing it.
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Matt Jones
You don't want to just be a hater to hate.
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Drew Franklin
Yes, that's unbecoming. But I want to give him some credit for something. So I'm actually going to say this makes me pro Drake May on TikTok. You know, people are always doing things.
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Matt Jones
Constantly, 30 seconds at a time.
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Drew Franklin
Nobody's ever just on TikTok going like, I'm good, that's enough. Everybody's got an opinion or they want to do a dance or they're putting a voice to things. Well, there's a woman on TikTok, she was very attractive. So I think her thing is like, hey, I'm attractive and watch this. I'm going to dance now.
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Matt Jones
Watch this trick. Watch this drop.
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Drew Franklin
She just comes on like, look, here we go, right?
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Matt Jones
Just make sure you watch for a minute so I can get my money.
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Drew Franklin
That's right. So she does this thing, she comes on there and she says, I want to dress up for Halloween. And whatever the top comment is, that's what I'm going to dress up for Halloween. Which I think is just asking for people to just write, like, bad things.
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Matt Jones
No one's going to put an actual Halloween costume as their vote.
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Drew Franklin
Except one person, Drake May. Drake May goes in her replies and writes, drake May, what do you want me to be browing? He he official Drake May, writes Drake maybe. Well, I think Patriots fans get excited about it. Next thing you know, it has 500,000 likes on her thing for her to dress as Drake May. So she has to dress as Drake May. She has promised, I've been following this saga somehow, that she will be dressed as Drake May, I believe tomorrow, because tomorrow's Halloween. Do you like? And then apparently he's been doing it in other ones. Just going around to. Going around to people when they say, what should I be for Halloween? Insane. Drake maybe. I think I kind of love that Drew this idea of a man of the people just telling people to dress as Drake May.
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Matt Jones
He's just going around like signing Instagram's or TikTok's guestbook here, just writing his name on people's videos and pictures.
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Drew Franklin
There's a common denominator to his, which I think most of them are fairly attractive women like, he didn't say he didn't tell Billy to dress as Drake May. But still just the idea of people are trying to guess. Just keep saying yourself over and over.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, just that simple interaction for him, takes him one second, just starts a huge trend. As you mentioned. Patriots fans latch on. And now this woman who probably was going to dress as something completely different. I doubt Drake May was high on her list. Now she's got to go for the team.
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Drew Franklin
She has to be Drake May. Now, you were saying that he actually dressed up for the game last week. Is that right?
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Billy
I saw a TikTok video. They had a Halloween party at Gillette Stadium and Drake May showed up dressed up as a Pokemon. Charizard.
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Matt Jones
What's that?
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Billy
It's a creature. Fake creature.
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Matt Jones
Pokemon. You've ever heard of that?
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Drew Franklin
Are you into Pokemon?
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Billy
Not really, but.
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Drew Franklin
Well, you pronounce that very well for somebody that I wouldn't think. It's called Charimar.
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Billy
Charizard. And he showed up as the.
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Drew Franklin
What's the Charizard? What does he do?
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Billy
He flies in the air and spits fire.
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Drew Franklin
Okay, so clearly you know Pokemon. Like, that's not just something you would guess. Do you want to admit that you do know Pokemon?
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Billy
I mean, I mean, as a kid, but. I mean, it's been a while. But I did enjoy Drake May dressing up as Charizard.
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Drew Franklin
I didn't get to see that. I think he should have dressed up as that girl as the one who had posted the original video. I think it's only fair.
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Matt Jones
I do enjoy getting the Halloween costumes from NFL players. They all seem to really get into it. The Lions had a big Halloween party.
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Drew Franklin
Okay, so let's talk about that one. Or actually, wait a minute. Is that Jameer Gibbs?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, he has my costume of the year.
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Drew Franklin
I didn't know that.
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Matt Jones
I didn't know that was going to be on your list.
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Drew Franklin
Costume of the Year. Jameer Gibbs of the Lions dressed up as Jeff Hardy. First of all, great reference. I mean, honestly, I know he still wrestles, but Jeff Hardy hasn't really been in the natural national consciousness in 25 years. Been a long time. Been a long time. Jameer Gibbs was what, five?
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Matt Jones
Had to have been a child.
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Drew Franklin
And he and his girlfriend dress up as Jeff Hardy and she dresses up as Lita.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
Great costume.
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Matt Jones
I had no idea you had even seen this. I was going to bring it up because there's been several. The whole Lions team did well. I think Jared Goff was maybe some kind of chef. They all did great. Good job, Lions. But Jameer Gibbs was just a whole nother level from having Lita. You know, he's already got kind of a long hair, so he could kind of pull it over his face like the Hardys do. He's doing the finger guns. By far, biggest costume winner that I've seen.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I. The best. I wish I was better at Halloween costumes because I think it's a great idea. The best set of Halloween costumes I've seen. And I really want to recommend this to people. There's an old folks home in Minnesota.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Drew Franklin
What are you laughing at?
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Billy
I just don't know where this is going.
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Drew Franklin
There's an old folks home in Minnesota, and they had all of the people in the old folks home dress as a Halloween costume. And they are great because they're all plays on words. So for instance, this old man stands up, he has on a belt, and around his belt are just watches. He has like 50 watches around his waist. And they say, what's your costume, mister? Blah, blah, blah. And he goes, a waste of time. Those are the good costumes. I like that.
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Matt Jones
I'm all about the puns.
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Drew Franklin
And then they had like a woman who was probably in her 80s, and she had two empty bottles of wine taped to her chest. And they said, what are you, Agnes? And she's like a wine rack.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Billy
It's two for two. I like.
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Drew Franklin
All of these are wonderful.
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Matt Jones
There's something about it being a senior.
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Drew Franklin
Citizen place like Billy can't go around as a wine rag. That would not. But. But these old people. I actually think it works really well.
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Matt Jones
I love it and, you know, big on the wordplay. So if you're working that into your costume and you're elderly, making some jokes like that, I'm all in. I'm actually taking away my word from Gibbs and giving it to that I.
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Drew Franklin
Would encourage you look up the old folks nursing home. Mario, why don't you see if you can find on your phone the name of it because I want to give them a shout out. They have. They have like 50 of these videos and each one of them is really fun.
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Matt Jones
One more before we go on. Miles Garrett is like the NFL's king of. I don't know what he has up his sleeve this year, but every year he goes way over the top. Like freaks people out walking into the stadium. He's so good at it.
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Drew Franklin
Well, but it'll be over when he gets to Halloween this Sunday. I guess he do it last week.
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Matt Jones
I don't know. It is thrown off that I haven't seen one of him. Maybe they're just having their party like the Lions did.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, maybe so. All right, so let's go through some news. You mentioned the Lions Aiden Hutchinson signed, What was it, $140 million extension. He'll become the second highest paid defensive lineman in the NFL. Most of us. You know, obviously he's a great player. We all watched his rookie year on Hard Knocks. His family was a big part of that. Lions makes perfect sense to invest. Do you enjoy watching Aiden, Aiden Hutchinson play?
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Matt Jones
I do. But was part of this a media contract for his family in the crowd for all these crowd shots we get. Is that going part of the bill some of the TV rights.
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Drew Franklin
He may lead the lead the NFL in family shots but as we learned.
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Matt Jones
On Hard Knocks, it is a cool story him getting to stay back for the hometown team. And now it gets even sweeter for him with you know, nearly $200 million to his name coming.
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Drew Franklin
Is there a is he's got to be the biggest player that's like from the hometown of where they are, right?
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Matt Jones
Yeah. The Bengals have had a few Ohio guys that have been big but right now Hutchinson, I mean you see they post the pictures of him dressed up as a little lion when he's a little kid. His whole family loves the Lions.
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Drew Franklin
But do you find that sweet when.
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Matt Jones
That happens and there's something about it being Detroit like if it was a kid in Boston wearing his Patriots shirt when he's little. Okay, sure, everybody liked the Patriots then but he, he went through the Lions down years and then got to the Lions and is why they're good. So yes, I Enjoy Hutchinson story.
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Drew Franklin
$141 million guaranteed. It's the most guaranteed for a non quarterback of all time.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I would love to have some of that money if he wants to share.
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Drew Franklin
Carson Wentz is now out for the rest of the year. He's going to have season injury ending surgery to Repair his left shoulders. A. Excuse me, doesn't have two of them over there.
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Matt Jones
Well, it was broken into Thursday night. He might have two left shoulders after that game.
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Drew Franklin
May. And he went to. He went to the media today and took up for his franchise saying no one forced him to play and he doesn't want any. Any arguments to the contrary. Now, personally, I'd never heard anyone making the arguments that they were forcing him to play. So there's a little bit of the me thinks thou dost protest too much, Carson, but what do you make of that?
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Matt Jones
It did look like he didn't need to be in the game last week. I don't know whose fault that was. Another very thin. Without McCarthy. They named another guy with a clipboard in his hand. I'd never heard of him. Could have been someone in a Halloween costume for all I knew. So it was hard to watch Carson Wentz, but I like that he comes out and like I was out there trying to gut it out. It wasn't like they're forcing me, making me do it, but it was. Anyone watching that game knows he didn't need to be in because it showed his face looked like he was in tears out there trying to take snaps.
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Drew Franklin
It was weird because the announcers and the camera crew spent a long time on him. If you're Carson Wentz, I understand why you're trying to make it happen. Because you've got this rookie behind you as soon as he comes back. I mean, in some ways, in that final game, you might be playing for a contract next year. Right. For maybe even another team. So I get it. But it did look like he was in a lot of pain.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. And he's played a lot of football. He's getting old. He might have some of the back problems you're going through right now. So it probably hurt even more every.
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Drew Franklin
Time there's somebody like in pain. You don't have to say that it's me. I'm just, you know, you don't need me to be the monument of the face of old.
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Matt Jones
But I'm trying to compare you to. To a current NFL player.
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Drew Franklin
You're going through the same very similar guys. Yeah, that's.
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Matt Jones
I mean, just as he toughed out that Thursday night game, you're toughing out cover zero right now. I'm looking at you. I just. As I looked in wince's eyes last Thursday, I'm looking at it. And no one's making you do this. Let's make that clear.
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Drew Franklin
So Roger is Mr. Goodell. I got A call from Roger. He was like, are you getting up or not?
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Matt Jones
He's going to be so proud when we go into Canada.
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Drew Franklin
He is. And we leave Mario at the border because he doesn't have a passport.
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Matt Jones
We won't get video in Canada because.
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Drew Franklin
Mario, 2025, you're going to need a passport. It expired.
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Billy
I don't have one either, Mario. So we'll.
- [23:03]
Drew Franklin
Oh, wait a minute. You can't go either.
- [23:04]
Billy
Not to Canada.
- [23:05]
Matt Jones
You can get a passport card, which is faster for Canada.
- [23:08]
Drew Franklin
So let me just say, well, no, you can't now. The government shut down.
- [23:11]
Matt Jones
That's true. I backtrack that.
- [23:13]
Drew Franklin
So here's the thing. Just know there's gonna be a night out in Hamilton, Ohio, when Drew and I are turning it up a notch.
- [23:23]
Matt Jones
And Matt's seen me in Canada, while.
- [23:25]
Drew Franklin
In London, Ontario, Drew fell in love.
- [23:28]
Matt Jones
I did. There's a world where I never met you two. I'm raising kids in Ontario right now.
- [23:34]
Drew Franklin
There's a world. He skis following the Hamilton Argonaut pots.
- [23:39]
Matt Jones
On my syrup farm. Just living the good life.
- [23:43]
Drew Franklin
Syrup farm. You and you and you grow syrup.
- [23:46]
Matt Jones
Yep, growing it. You and hubby were about to drive off and you're like, are you coming? I was like, I don't know, guys. Leave me.
- [23:50]
Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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- [24:44]
Matt Jones
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- [24:59]
Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
Check them out to see how much you could say versus the other big.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Guys@T mobile.com switch what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks we take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to.
- [25:17]
Matt Jones
Team building philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [25:22]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else else.
- [25:28]
Matt Jones
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL.
- [25:33]
Daniel Jeremiah
Stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [25:40]
Matt Jones
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction and the trends that shape the.
- [25:44]
Drew Franklin
League year after year.
- [25:46]
Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
- [25:52]
Matt Jones
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score for this podcast is for you.
- [25:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [26:12]
Drew Franklin
41 year old tight end Mercedes Lewis is as signed. What was is it a practice squad?
- [26:19]
Billy
D practice squad with the Denver Broncos.
- [26:22]
Drew Franklin
With the Denver Broncos. He will become the oldest if he plays the oldest tight end to play of all time. What would you, what do you make of that? 41 years old. Can you imagine being a tight end?
- [26:34]
Matt Jones
It's a lot of miles on that Mercedes that's coming in a lot of I'm telling you, we used this happened with Graham just a week or two ago. People saw that Flacco Aaron Rodgers game and they all thought, honey, where's my cleats? Get my cleats out of the garage and going back to work. And we're starting to see some of the older guys come back. Give it another shot.
- [26:52]
Drew Franklin
Do you like this trend of geriatric players joining the NFL? I mean, do you think we're going to be where's this going? We're going to have a running back who's 61.
- [27:02]
Matt Jones
I'm here for it. Just set it up. I mean we have a Golden Bachelor on ABC now. The old people are back. They're winning Halloween costume contests. They're taking over the NFL again. The stock is up on people that are pushing the high numbers.
- [27:17]
Drew Franklin
I haven't watched the Golden Bachelor. Is it good?
- [27:20]
Matt Jones
I caught a few episodes of the first season and immediately turned it off.
- [27:23]
Drew Franklin
I did see there was an argument this year that one woman there, the other women were very unhappy that she wasn't there for the right reason. I always love that phrase in the Bachelor. What is the right reason it can't be to find love. No one ever does.
- [27:37]
Matt Jones
No, they're all there.
- [27:38]
Drew Franklin
No one ever gets married.
- [27:39]
Matt Jones
They're there for Instagram followers and they just need to say it.
- [27:42]
Drew Franklin
Like, I don't watch Love is Blind, but I heard that this year when the couples matched up, they all just looked at each other and ran away.
- [27:50]
Matt Jones
Sounds like good tv.
- [27:51]
Drew Franklin
They all just looked at each other and we're like, no, you're hideous. So I don't know what that has to do with Mercedes.
- [27:57]
Matt Jones
Well, all people are back is what we're saying, and Mercedes Lewis is on the list.
- [28:01]
Drew Franklin
It also gives us a chance though, to talk about the stat that we like the most, which is there. Mercedes Lewis could become the third player of all time to get a reception in the NFL over 40. The other two are Jerry Rice than Tom Brady. That's kind of cool, isn't it?
- [28:22]
Matt Jones
It's very cool. I'd forgotten that, that stat. Actually, you got me thinking, Mercedes Lewis, he's almost old enough for the Titans. Try to sign him and try to give him another year because we are the retirement home and I'm surprised he's not coming back.
- [28:34]
Drew Franklin
Do you remember when Tom Brady caught the pass? Billy? I mean, I guess it was with Tampa Bay. Do you remember the scenario?
- [28:40]
Billy
It had to be a Philly special type of play. I just not. Not the one comes to mind.
- [28:44]
Matt Jones
No.
- [28:45]
Drew Franklin
You gotta be a bold offensive coordinator to tell Tom Brady he's going to run downfield. They tell him he crossed the middle, unlike a. No, they put him out there. It was. Well, good luck to Mercedes Lewis and I hope he. I hope he makes it now, tonight. By the time you listen, this game may even be over. Lamar taking the field for the first time. 2 and 6 versus 2 and 6. By the time you listen this, we may know the result of this game, but are you excited to have Lamar back on the field?
- [29:17]
Matt Jones
Yes. The Ravens hurt me to watch. I've never liked them. Took Henry, they've knocked Titans out of the playoffs before. But it's been very disappointing, just as a fan of the NFL, to not have the Ravens be good this season, especially after that week one game that was such a thriller. I thought we were on a crash course with the Ravens, Bills and Chiefs doing what they normally do, fighting for the AFC spots and they've been so disappointing. So I hope Lamar gets them back on track, their schedule sets up where they can get back in the mix. And I just, as a fan of the NFL, they need to be in the conversation.
- [29:49]
Drew Franklin
And he's just such a different. He's just such a different athlete than everyone else. In terms of. There are very few people in sports that you say, well, there's no one like him. And I'm not sure there's ever going to be anyone like him again. I mean, in basketball we're seeing this a little bit with Wimby right now that we're seeing this like thing that we may never see a thing like that again. Now, whether or not ends up being an all time great or whatever, we have to wait and see. But I kind of don't think there's ever going to be another person like Lamar. I mean, this new generation of mobile quarterbacks, they tend to be built now like Josh Allen or Drake may, or even a less version. Caleb Williams, you're not. I don't think you're ever going to see an athlete like Lamar who can also play quarterback like that.
- [30:41]
Matt Jones
Yep. And a lot of it, you know, is design run now. And it's all part of the plan. Lamar will just tuck it and embarrass guys. I think back some of his college highlights, hurdling people. He hadn't done the hurdling as much in the NFL, but he's still, when he gets in space, he can just do things that no one else can. And the criticism, of course, years ago, he's shut them up. But saying he couldn't pass. No, he can pass too. That's why he's one of one.
- [31:03]
Drew Franklin
The only analogy to him in the history of the league is Michael Vick. And he's a better athlete than Michael Vick. I mean, just, he's a lot better of an athlete. So I want to see him because I don't think there are that many years left of him being able to play like that. Now maybe he develops into something else. Michael Vick did a little bit towards the end, but the way he's playing right now, Drew, I only think we have another couple years of it. So I want to make sure we get every game we can.
- [31:31]
Matt Jones
Yeah. And I hope he's back. Back before the hamstring, he was having a good year. Something like 12 TDs, one interception. That huge first game, you get an opponent that last week got their win. But this is still one that you should handle. If you don't win this one, that's a problem. And it's also for Lamar's comeback. He's kind of a Miami guy. I don't know if he's Miami specific, but he's from South Florida. A little bit of a homecoming for him. So it'll be a lot of eyes on this game. I'm looking forward to watching.
- [31:56]
Drew Franklin
Well, you also have a sense of, Even though they're 2 and 6 and that record is bad, they're not as far away from potentially having a shot in that division as you would think. I mean, you see here and look at it, they're. They're, excuse me, two and five. They're two games back of Pittsburgh. Right. I mean, that's not that many. And they still have to play them, what, twice? Yes, they still play them twice. And then the Steelers have the Colts and the Chargers coming over the next few weeks. They still have to play the Bills, so. So if they can not drop any more games, the Ravens still have a shot to win this division. Even at 2 and 5.
- [32:35]
Matt Jones
They do. And I saw some updated odds today. They're like 46% to win the division.
- [32:40]
Drew Franklin
And then they're the favorite.
- [32:42]
Matt Jones
Well, it's Steelers, like Steelers were 47. They were 46. Then the other two split whatever's left there.
- [32:46]
Drew Franklin
Interesting.
- [32:47]
Matt Jones
And then the same for making the playoffs. So we know if they can just get in as long as they're healthy. They've been disappointing the last month. They'll be a big three.
- [32:55]
Drew Franklin
Now you were telling me, Billy, Michael Carter the second. What is this story about him and the Jets?
- [33:02]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [33:02]
Billy
So there was a trade recently. The Eagles are trading for the jets cornerback Michael Carter to second.
- [33:09]
Drew Franklin
Michael Carter to second.
- [33:10]
Billy
The second.
- [33:11]
Drew Franklin
Okay. So what's a lot of baseball, haven't you, lady to second.
- [33:15]
Billy
So New York will get John Michi iii and a 2027 sixth round pick, while Philly will get Carter and a 2027. 20. 27th round pick. But I thought it was interesting, the.
- [33:27]
Drew Franklin
Second for the third. Yes, all right.
- [33:29]
Billy
That's correct.
- [33:30]
Matt Jones
And a sixth and a seventh.
- [33:31]
Drew Franklin
Sixth and a seventh.
- [33:33]
Billy
But this is how badly Michael Carter II wanted to join the Eagles. Sources say that he agreed to delete the $5 million guarantee for injury in his 2026 contract to complete the trade to the Eagles.
- [33:46]
Drew Franklin
So he had a provision in his contract that said, if I get injured, you'll still give me 5 million.
- [33:52]
Billy
Correct.
- [33:53]
Drew Franklin
And he so wanted out of New York that he just dropped that.
- [33:57]
Billy
He gave it up. $5 million for the trade to go through.
- [34:01]
Drew Franklin
Wow. I mean, that, you know, the chances of him getting hurt. That's real. $5 million to get off a team. That's. I mean, that's, that's kind of an amazing thing for a guy to do, isn't it?
- [34:16]
Matt Jones
Yeah. And, you know, if I'm in his shoes, probably not going to do it. But at the same time, if there's a situation, you would do it. You're leaving the jets for the reigning super bowl champ, who could be in there Again, have you ever had a.
- [34:30]
Drew Franklin
Job that you would have given up money to get away from? I mean, $5 million is a different kind of money. But let's say if you're at a job you were wedded to that you were like, I've got to get out of here.
- [34:43]
Matt Jones
No, my job's mostly always been mostly.
- [34:45]
Drew Franklin
Sorry, you can't say it because it's mostly been with me.
- [34:48]
Matt Jones
Well, but I mean, obviously I have.
- [34:50]
Drew Franklin
You know, I don't think you could say that right now.
- [34:52]
Matt Jones
I didn't want to say. Yeah, really. My other jobs were all part time jobs. If I wanted to leave, I just left.
- [34:57]
Drew Franklin
Well, that's what's interesting about sports is you can get, I mean, virtually every job in society, you can leave. But in sports, these guys, if they want to pursue their craft, they get picked by a team and then they have to be there, right? They have to, they can't get out of it. There are very few parts of life. I can't think of another part of life where that would be the case.
- [35:23]
Matt Jones
And I like his fans. It's just normal. We're like, oh, that guy's, oh, he's going from Denver to Buffalo, who cares? But then it's like not to get deep, but you got kids in school, maybe your whole family's moved there. It's like, what other worlds where they're like, you have to move, pick up your family and move them right now. And you have to be there by Thursday.
- [35:39]
Drew Franklin
You might have to be in a different country. I mean, not with the NFL, but in other sports. You know, I think about like Ace Bailey who went to like Rutgers. I think he grew up in New York. And they're like, all right, you have to go to Salt Lake City, Utah, and you have to do it right now.
- [35:56]
Matt Jones
The plane is right there.
- [35:57]
Drew Franklin
And by the way, you're going to live there for the next seven years and you're going to like it. And then he goes, wait a minute, I don't know if I want to do that. And everybody goes, you're so selfish. How could you not want to be in Utah? What a great opportunity to play on the worst team in the league, in the worst city in the country. No offense. Utah, that's it is weird. Sports are the only thing that does that.
- [36:29]
Matt Jones
And you have no choice.
- [36:31]
Drew Franklin
And you have no choice. You can go to China. Those are your two choices. What do you want? Ace?
- [36:36]
Matt Jones
I don't care about your 2 year old's community that he's built and all the roots your family's planted. You get to Denver right now, oh.
- [36:43]
Drew Franklin
You'Ve been in New York for 200 years. Eat it.
- [36:48]
Matt Jones
And fans are like, yeah, just. They got to go.
- [36:50]
Drew Franklin
Provo is nice this time of year. Ace. So, I mean, I think there was. This was a chance for Michael Carter the second to take some ownership, and he says, I'm willing to give up the 5 million to get out of here.
- [37:02]
Matt Jones
When I heard this happen, you know, I thought, that's crazy. But the teams involved makes sense. If you're leaving, if this is a lateral move and how competitive the team is, I don't think you can do it. But for a chance to get a ring, that can be invaluable.
- [37:16]
Drew Franklin
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones in the news. He did a press conference. By the way, that sentence is the start of about 30% of all NFL news. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones does a press conference insert next or local Dallas interview.
- [37:34]
Matt Jones
He does those two on the radio.
- [37:35]
Drew Franklin
I mean, you get a lot of NFL news news just by the start of that sentence. He was asked about. He hasn't been around the facility, I guess, in a little bit. And he was asked about it, and he said, I have $100 billion oil project. I don't have time to worry about the Cowboys defense. What do you think about that sentence?
- [37:59]
Matt Jones
For a guy that's been so hands on forever and literally had a pretty big news story involving his defense before the season, it is interesting to me that suddenly doesn't have time when things aren't looking good, because normally Jerry is hands on everything. His fingerprints are on everything.
- [38:15]
Drew Franklin
Counterpoint. $100 billion oil project. Sounds big. That's a big oil project.
- [38:20]
Matt Jones
And he's on the new Landman. Jerry's got a little camera. I like season one. I haven't caught. I don't know if season two started yet, but I enjoyed it.
- [38:30]
Drew Franklin
I heard it makes oil seem glamorous.
- [38:34]
Matt Jones
As best it can. It is. I mean, what you have in your mind of Texas oil tycoons, that's. That's pretty much what it is.
- [38:40]
Drew Franklin
They were in big hats, big hats.
- [38:41]
Matt Jones
Okay, Walking around, you know, got their big boots on and their buckles, just talking about billions.
- [38:46]
Drew Franklin
And then they just like put things in the ground hold.
- [38:48]
Matt Jones
Drill here, see what happens.
- [38:50]
Drew Franklin
Lands dry. They say that a lot.
- [38:54]
Matt Jones
Well, in the. In the Netflix Cowboys documentaries, you watch that, it's a big part about how Jerry took a gamble on a little spot, wasn't sure if it was going to be some oil, and then boom, that's when he struck it. But when he made the deal, he took a big chance, and now he's got one of the best teams in the way.
- [39:09]
Drew Franklin
They not have ways to just see if there's oil under it. Like, what's the gamble? I feel like there's gotta be something that can look underground and say whether there's oil now.
- [39:20]
Matt Jones
Probably. But in the time they were playing up and maybe it was just some theatrics and telling Jerry's story.
- [39:24]
Drew Franklin
Jerry just had a shovel out there, and he was like, this feels like the right place.
- [39:27]
Matt Jones
He did. Yeah. He did it barehanded. And that's how we got the Dallas Cowboys.
- [39:32]
Drew Franklin
You know, I've been very critical of Jerry over the years for sort of meddling. I don't understand why people would think he's the one like he do. They think they're. The Cowboys are not able to stop people because Jerry's not there.
- [39:44]
Matt Jones
This is actually what a lot of his critics have wanted. They've always been like, jerry, go find a hobby. You don't have to do everything. He literally has found something else.
- [39:51]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [39:51]
Matt Jones
And now he's getting criticism.
- [39:52]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. There is a sense in which he's kind of damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. You're either there too much or now you're there too little. I think they just can't quit Jerry either way. Right.
- [40:02]
Matt Jones
If I was Jerry, I would say, would you look at Dak right now? When you all told me not to resign him years ago, would you look at George Pickens? Just don't look at my defense.
- [40:10]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. What's that sound? That's the sound of Downy unstoppable scent.
- [40:21]
Matt Jones
Beads going into your washing machine and giving your clothes freshness that lasts all day long. There it is again.
- [40:27]
Drew Franklin
It's like music to your ears. Or more like music to your nose. That freshness is irresistible. Let's get a Downey Unstoppables bottle shake. And now a sniff solo.
- [40:41]
Matt Jones
Nice. With Downy Unstoppables, you just toss wash. Wow. For all day freshness.
- [40:48]
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here, and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game, from scouting reports and player development to team building.
- [40:57]
Matt Jones
Philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices can stretch construct winning rosters.
- [41:02]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
- [41:08]
Matt Jones
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL.
- [41:13]
Daniel Jeremiah
Stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [41:19]
Matt Jones
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the.
- [41:24]
Drew Franklin
League year after year.
- [41:25]
Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level level, we give you the full picture.
- [41:31]
Matt Jones
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you.
- [41:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [41:52]
Drew Franklin
Well, speaking of resigning, you got an email from the Tennessee Titans. Oh, yes. Are you being kicked out of your fandom? Is that correct?
- [42:02]
Matt Jones
I think they broke up with me. Let me pull up word for word so I don't get this wrong, but so I've been.
- [42:08]
Drew Franklin
Our fans, our team's allowed to break up with us fans. I don't.
- [42:11]
Matt Jones
Here it is on October 26th. This was four days ago. Just to set it up. Like many fans, I joined my team's listserv. You know, there's contests, I'll play the little trivia game for free, quarters, zip all the promos, you know. You know how you get an email blitz? I didn't know I was supposed to interact with them, so I Get an email 4 days ago and the, the subject line says, we're going to miss you from the Tennessee Titans. And it says we've reached out a few times. We haven't heard back. So we're calling the Hail Mary. This will be our last email. If you miss us as much as we'll miss you, you can always come back anytime. But I'm thinking I'm still here, I still love you, and I'm getting dumped.
- [42:50]
Drew Franklin
So the Titans are saying if you don't talk to our email account, then we're gonna stop talking to you.
- [42:57]
Matt Jones
It's got this like flashy Hail Mary that scrolls by. It's their Hail Mary attempt to get me to wow. So do I reply.
- [43:05]
Drew Franklin
So what do they, what do they get for breaking up with you?
- [43:07]
Matt Jones
I'm not sure. And I, I thought I was.
- [43:11]
Drew Franklin
What were you supposed. Like what. What do they want you to do right now? Just ask. Ask them how they're, how they're doing. Hey, you Up, Titans.
- [43:18]
Matt Jones
I reply, like, hey, I'm here. Like, I don't want. Let's work this out. Is this a break? Is there someone else? Who else are you emailing over there?
- [43:28]
Drew Franklin
Let's work this out. We can come to a common ground.
- [43:31]
Matt Jones
But I gotta admit, getting an email from my favorite team and the subject just says, we're gonna miss you. I was like, what happened?
- [43:37]
Drew Franklin
Like, well, maybe it's like a reverse psychology. Cause now maybe you reply hoping you don't break up. So have you replied?
- [43:47]
Matt Jones
No. I should, though. I gave. It's four days a good wait. Waiting period. We're obviously in a point of turmoil in our relations.
- [43:54]
Drew Franklin
You want to keep the Titans waiting. You don't want to come off as eager. No.
- [43:58]
Matt Jones
Yeah, because they're in the low spot right now. Like, they need to be recruiting me, not pushing me away.
- [44:04]
Drew Franklin
You think they're asking, like, they're. They're sort of, you know, asking for affirmations. I think it's okay. I still love you even though your coach was terrible.
- [44:15]
Matt Jones
They also called me about season tickets the day they fired Mike Vrabel, and I was like, not now. Like, this is not the day to be calling the events.
- [44:22]
Drew Franklin
That's a bad day.
- [44:23]
Matt Jones
So we're still going through things. I'll reply to this, but it felt weird getting dumped by.
- [44:28]
Drew Franklin
Will you just reply and just say, miss you.
- [44:31]
Matt Jones
I miss us. I'm going to say, I miss us.
- [44:33]
Drew Franklin
I miss us. Do that right now and then let me know what the response is.
- [44:36]
Billy
Well, this must be a trend. Did you guys see what happened in Cincinnati with the season ticket holder?
- [44:40]
Drew Franklin
No, I did not.
- [44:41]
Billy
So a season ticket holder went to cancel their season tickets after the loss to the jets, and a person, reportedly, the person on the phone said, do you want cheap tickets or do you want us to pay for Jamar Chase and Ticket Higgins?
- [44:53]
Drew Franklin
Ooh. Oh, wow. So you're saying the person selling your tickets got a little sassy.
- [44:57]
Billy
This is according to a Reddit post that somebody made when they went cancel their season tickets but reported by Bleacher Report. So.
- [45:05]
Drew Franklin
Reported that there was a Reddit poster. Reported that it happened.
- [45:08]
Billy
Reported that there was a Reddit post.
- [45:09]
Drew Franklin
That I didn't want to report to tell me that. I mean, if it was on Reddit. Okay, well, I don't know if I believe this, but I didn't.
- [45:18]
Matt Jones
I don't.
- [45:18]
Drew Franklin
I have to say, I don't mind the Bengals being sassy. Like, you don't get it both ways. Do you want T. Higgins and Jamar Chase or do you want $2 nachos at the game? You can't have it both ways. I kind of.
- [45:33]
Matt Jones
Kind of saw with the ticket person. I mean, pr, we could work on that. Maybe the delivering the approach. But they have a point. It's kind of. Jerry. People are like, we got to pay Higgins, we got to pay Chase. We got to pay Burrow. Okay, we're paying. Little help from you all.
- [45:46]
Drew Franklin
But also, maybe not the week to do it after they just blew that game at home to the jets that had not won a game yet. Maybe you spend a week being a little less sassy.
- [45:57]
Matt Jones
Yeah, you could show some sympathy.
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Drew Franklin
Like, you stayed out all night, drank with your friends, passed out, didn't come home in the morning. Maybe that's not the time you start demanding that your wife make you lunch. Yeah, like. Like you got to pick and choose your time.
- [46:12]
Matt Jones
You got to know your spot. Ticket office, I think should have read the room a little bit better here coming off that loss, but it is. You don't hear a sassy move like that coming from the.
- [46:20]
Drew Franklin
From the. I'm going to the Bengals Bears game this weekend. Oh, yeah. I am like, shocked how expensive those tickets are for Bengals. Bears. You wouldn't think so, right? I mean, it's not a rivalry. Neither team is particularly great, but they are expensive.
- [46:39]
Matt Jones
And it's not like, in a way, team coming in this far away, you think local Bears fans probably can get to Chicago.
- [46:44]
Drew Franklin
Chicago, right.
- [46:45]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [46:46]
Drew Franklin
But like, very, very expensive tickets to go see the Bears mingles. But I think it'll be fun.
- [46:51]
Matt Jones
Ready for some. Some Caleb Williams?
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Drew Franklin
I'm ready for some drunk Bengals fans. I mean, for people who don't know, the drunkest fan base on earth are the Cincinnati Bengals. Like, people say the Bills fans are crazier, and I'll believe that. But no one is drunker and more belligerent than the Bengals fans. I mean, the Bengals fans fight each other for the chance to fight other people.
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Matt Jones
I wonder.
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Drew Franklin
It's like a warm up event.
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Matt Jones
Wasn't there a video earlier this year, maybe last season, of a big brawl and like, everyone had on a Joe Burrow jersey. It was like Joe Burrow beating up Joe Burrow beating up Joe Burrow. It was just Bengals fans.
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Drew Franklin
It is. There's a little bit like Escape from New York when you go to the Bengals. I mean, now I think it makes it fun. I think it makes it a hard environment to play in. But I don't think the Bengals get enough credit. Get enough credit for how Drunk their fan base is.
- [47:42]
Matt Jones
And a lot of times at one.
- [47:43]
Drew Franklin
O' clock they play at one o' clock a lot. They'll get up very early. I hosted my Matt Myron ESPN show once from a bar in Cincinnati before the game and at 10:30 in the morning I watched the manager have to keep two people from making out on the floor at 10:30 on a Sunday morning.
- [48:04]
Matt Jones
They weren't even drinking.
- [48:06]
Drew Franklin
Can you imagine the excitement you have to be rolling around the floor kissing a person at 10:30 in the morning in public on a Sunday.
- [48:14]
Matt Jones
I was there and I remember a lot of people trying to get our young innocent Mario to drink fireball at 10 in the morning to the Bengals fans are getting after it.
- [48:21]
Drew Franklin
The Bengals fans do get after it. All right, the trade deadline is November 4th. Lots, you know, the NFL trade deadline a little bit different than baseball in the NBA. You don't necessarily see as much action. Anything you're expecting to see this this week?
- [48:40]
Matt Jones
A couple players are watching. It looks like they've come out and said they're not going to move much. But we, when we said this the other day, I, I want to see Miles Garrett play for a good football team.
- [48:48]
Drew Franklin
That's not going to happen.
- [48:48]
Matt Jones
It's not going to happen.
- [48:49]
Drew Franklin
Max Crosby seems like somebody that could end up somewhere else.
- [48:54]
Matt Jones
Chris Lave in New Orleans is having a huge year for a crappy team. That's someone that could move. But they've also said probably not going to deal him there. A team like Dallas I think really needs to go out and find some def. Because they're wasting such a good offense or Chargers still need help on that offensive line if there's anything out there they can get.
- [49:12]
Drew Franklin
Usually at this time you might see a team that thinks they can salvage a playoff run, get a quarterback, but I think that was the Bengals and they already did Flacco. So I don't, I don't think there's going to be anybody else.
- [49:23]
Matt Jones
Hall's names popped up a lot.
- [49:25]
Drew Franklin
Those are two, I think. I think Breeze hall and Max Crosby are the two to watch for for a variety of reasons. I think both of them would make sense to go. Breeze hall would be one. You know, if you're a team that just is not able to run the ball. He's being wasted with the jets because they're not so. So that would make some sense.
- [49:44]
Matt Jones
And he's been fun on a crappy team even through the touchdown pass in that comeback last week. It's a guy that's having a great year, and it's just been completely wasted on now. It's a one win team.
- [49:54]
Drew Franklin
Have you been enjoying how much the jets have been celebrating their win? This has got to be one of the more jovial wins in a long time.
- [50:01]
Matt Jones
And I don't know about you, but it seems like all. All. Most people know, like one jets fan in their life, and they've just always been miserable. Mine's our friend Robert who listens to ksr. He's just lives and dies with the Jets.
- [50:12]
Drew Franklin
Mine's my friend Molly, constantly upset.
- [50:15]
Matt Jones
We can't help but be happy for a Jets fan getting that win last week.
- [50:18]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Now the playoff picture right now in the AFC, Indianapolis is 7 and 1 right now. They would be the 1 seed. The 2 seed would now be the Patriots and the Broncos the three seed. Is that not amazing that the one seed could be the Colts, two Patriots, three Broncos, when you could have made a strong argument none of those three would have even been in the playoffs at the beginning of the year.
- [50:44]
Matt Jones
It's. It's nuts to not just immediately go Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo. Like, that's felt like what we were heading to when the season started. I knew the Broncos would take a step forward this year. I didn't expect them to be in the middle mix like they are. Same with the Patriots. So, yeah, it's definitely been surprising.
- [51:01]
Drew Franklin
I mean, right now there's actually a gap in the playoffs, like the top seven in the afc. I mean, they're not set, but they're getting to be set. It's looking like New England, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Denver and the Chargers. Those seem to be the seven. Unless. I. I don't know. I mean, there's the Chiefs. I'm. Excuse me. Chargers and the Chiefs. So I'm not sure who it is that's gonna. That's gonna take one of those spots.
- [51:29]
Matt Jones
I saw the Colts today. It was one of those updated playoff pictures. The colts have a 25% chance to make the Super Bowl. Even I have a hard time believing those.
- [51:40]
Drew Franklin
Good.
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Matt Jones
But just, just we go on record.
- [51:43]
Drew Franklin
And be 100% seeing that. Billy, write down no chance of it.
- [51:47]
Billy
Make no chance.
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Matt Jones
Zero percent.
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Drew Franklin
Zero percent.
- [51:49]
Billy
Okay.
- [51:50]
Matt Jones
Jonathan Taylor just keeps getting three touchdowns.
- [51:53]
Drew Franklin
There's zero percent chance there are. I like the Colts. They're a great story. But there are four teams in the AFC better at least.
- [52:01]
Matt Jones
But they just keep winning.
- [52:02]
Drew Franklin
I know, and that's nice, but I.
- [52:05]
Matt Jones
Agree that I wouldn't put them in the Super Bowl.
- [52:08]
Drew Franklin
Kansas City's coming. Did you watch the game? Monday night. That was a denominator domination. That should have been 42 to 7.
- [52:16]
Matt Jones
I just mean the fact that we're even saying Indianapolis Colts and Super bowl within the same paragraph, each other with how we thought this season would go is insane.
- [52:25]
Drew Franklin
Didn't you get really mad at a.
- [52:26]
Matt Jones
Call in the Chiefs game?
- [52:27]
Drew Franklin
What were you mad about?
- [52:29]
Billy
Oh, it was just roughing the passer and they.
- [52:31]
Drew Franklin
And why did. Why you have a thing against Mahomes? You don't like him? Is it like anti. You don't like.
- [52:36]
Billy
No, he's fine. He's fine. It's just, you know, why do people not like Patrick?
- [52:41]
Drew Franklin
What did Patrick Mahomes do to anybody? Why are people. People are too angry at him, and I don't understand why.
- [52:49]
Billy
Well, it's the winning. It's the same reason why Tom Brady wasn't liked.
- [52:52]
Drew Franklin
But Tom Brady, he was handsome. And we should hate people that handsome can't have everything. Patrick Mahomes is chubby, right? He talks like Kermit to me. He's like the epitome of. Yeah, he's athletic, but he's not that athletic. So I think shouldn't we embrace his sort of normalcy? I know his wife, whatever. I know his brother, whatever. But I feel like he's fine.
- [53:20]
Billy
I think most people do. I was just complaining about the refs and the roughing.
- [53:23]
Drew Franklin
The people act like he gets a better whistle. Do you think that's true? 100%, yeah. Okay, so you are.
- [53:29]
Matt Jones
He's the face of the league.
- [53:30]
Billy
I mean, of course.
- [53:31]
Drew Franklin
So you are complaining that he gets a better whistle?
- [53:33]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Yeah.
- [53:34]
Billy
I mean, I don't hate the guy, but yeah, let's call it like it is.
- [53:36]
Drew Franklin
Do you think he gets a better whistle?
- [53:38]
Matt Jones
I think he gets a good whistle. The Tush Push gets the best whistle.
- [53:42]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [53:42]
Matt Jones
If we're going to talk about bad whistles, it's not the chief.
- [53:45]
Drew Franklin
But nobody seem. Nobody seems to be mad at Jalen Hurt.
- [53:48]
Matt Jones
No, I don't. I know there are a lot of fans that hate the Chiefs and always, you know, the memes where the refs hugging Travis Kelsey, we all. We all see him. I don't think it's that extreme.
- [53:57]
Drew Franklin
Do you think it'll still be like that when Travis retires at the end of the year? Or do you think when Travis and Taylor exit a little bit of the. The Chiefs hate will go away?
- [54:10]
Matt Jones
I see him lingering in her, lingering around. Just the Chiefs, Kansas City in general. So I don't think it'll go away.
- [54:16]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean, Travis will be on one of the shows or something. So he'll still be around.
- [54:21]
Matt Jones
Yeah, but I do think the Chiefs hates a little over the top. And when Travis is gone, Worthy and Rice and some of these young guys.
- [54:30]
Drew Franklin
Second generation.
- [54:31]
Matt Jones
Yeah, they're not going anywhere.
- [54:32]
Drew Franklin
I mean, this is going to be my homes is Brady again. You have Mahomes generation one or excuse me, Brady generation one and then Brady generation two. Mahomes is going to be the same. I mean my homes is going to have. He had his first run and now it's. It's Jordan with the Bulls. Right. You got your, you got your, your first group with, with, you know what, cu, Coke and them. And then you got the Dennis Rodman part at the end. You're going to have the same thing.
- [54:59]
Matt Jones
And my homes will just be the steady force between the two generations of Chiefs. But it's not, it is a little unfair how they reloaded in the draft.
- [55:05]
Drew Franklin
All right, offensive, it is now time to preview the games for this week, which means it is the victory bundle presented by Liberty Mutual. The victory bundle is your way to start your quote@libertymutual.com so here are the games this week and you tell me we've got to pick three. Usually I pick one, you pick one. I'm going to let Billy pick one this week. I'll go first and sit here and look at what is available. So 49ers are at the Giants. I tend to think people overreact to weeks and then they screw it up the next week. 49ers are five and three, Giants are two and six. They're only a two and a half point favorite even on the road. I'm going to take the 49ers as part of my victory bundle to get back on track in New York. I think the Giants are headed for a steady decline here and Brian Dable will be fired relatively soon. So give me the 49ers. What about you?
- [56:02]
Matt Jones
I love that pick, especially with the, the, with the spread. That's one of my favorite picks. We don't know how the Giants look without Cam Scatter Boo. He was scoring touchdown after touchdown before the injury, so I love that one. You just mentioned how people have an unfair hatred for Patrick Mahomes. So I'm going to bring up your unfair hatred for Drake May, who hosts the Atlanta Falcons.
- [56:22]
Drew Franklin
Who have not looked fair.
- [56:23]
Matt Jones
Who have not looked good this year. Yeah, Bijan had a bad game a week ago. I'm going to keep riding the variable. Drake May train straight into another win. Will that be six in a row? I think six in a row. So I love the Patriots at home.
- [56:36]
Drew Franklin
Five and a half. Not. I mean, I get that. I think that's actually a pretty good pick. There's a chance that could end up in a blowout.
- [56:43]
Matt Jones
Falcons have been very disappointing.
- [56:44]
Drew Franklin
So we've got the Patriots. I throw the 49ers, and Billy, you give me the final one.
- [56:50]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [56:50]
Billy
So Carson Wentz will not be playing. J.J. mcCarthy is trash. I love the Lions minus eight.
- [56:56]
Matt Jones
What do you mean, trash? He's playing.
- [56:57]
Drew Franklin
Played two games.
- [56:58]
Billy
Yeah, just not it. I think they sold away Sam Darnold.
- [57:01]
Matt Jones
Way too quick games.
- [57:02]
Drew Franklin
How do you know he's not here?
- [57:03]
Billy
I've seen enough.
- [57:05]
Matt Jones
He's been in like a hospital bed forever.
- [57:07]
Drew Franklin
In one of those games, he played really, really well.
- [57:10]
Billy
Not good enough. So that's why we're going to be taking the Lions minus eight and a half to beat the Minnesota Vikings.
- [57:17]
Drew Franklin
You're covering all eight and a half of that because is your quote, J.J. mcCarthy is trash, correct.
- [57:23]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [57:23]
Drew Franklin
So when he won a national championship in Michigan. Doesn't matter.
- [57:26]
Billy
System player at that point.
- [57:30]
Drew Franklin
Wow. Strong opinions. All right, so that is enough to.
- [57:32]
Matt Jones
Make it your survival video.
- [57:34]
Drew Franklin
We're talking 49ers, 49ers, Patriots and Vikings. That is your victory bundle provided by Liberty Mutual. Start your quote@liberty mutual.com Morning, Zoe.
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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- [58:01]
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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- [59:28]
Drew Franklin
All right, so let's look at a couple these big games this week. You got. Let's start with Chiefs, Bills. It's the game of the week. Most years it's the game of the year. Probably will be the highest rated game of the season on television. Chiefs are 2 1/2 point favorite at Buffalo. A little bit surprising to me. This is always one of the best ones of the year.
- [59:49]
Matt Jones
Can't wait to watch this game. I mean this is one of the ones when they announced the schedule with their big fancy announcements due now you get eyes wide. Circle that one on your schedule. I'm. I get wild Kansas. Why Kansas City is the favorite, but I'm certainly not touching that in Buffalo.
- [60:04]
Drew Franklin
What's the reason? I mean the Bills just won 40 to nine. The game is in Buffalo. I don't, I mean you say, you say and usually when they play in the regular season it doesn't Buffalo win and then the Chiefs win in the playoffs.
- [60:19]
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's happened in Kansas City a lot too. I guess Buffalo has the two losses that are kind of fresh and I think we all saw the Chiefs just turn a corner a few weeks ago, especially adding Worthy and now Rice, that offense, they just look like, especially offensively that they can do whatever they want to do.
- [60:34]
Drew Franklin
Well, I think the Chiefs are really good, maybe exceptionally good. But I think you, I still, I would bet the Bills here. You're telling me I get the Bills at home in a year where I think they leave those two weeks aside, are still the better team.
- [60:54]
Matt Jones
Oh, I was just making the case for why Chiefs the favorite. I would not bet it if I were betting. Yeah, no, I'm saying I kind of get why the Chiefs are at two.
- [61:02]
Drew Franklin
And a half is this.
- [61:03]
Matt Jones
But I, I'm not, I wouldn't do it.
- [61:04]
Drew Franklin
Is this the marquee matchup of the NFL now?
- [61:08]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [61:08]
Drew Franklin
Like if you were to say if the NFL were to get to decide we're going to put one game on display for the entire league to watch, they would pick this one. Right.
- [61:16]
Matt Jones
They'd have to just, you know, you got Lamar also, but Mahomes Josh Allen, those two against. He's really that trio of quarterbacks. When they play each other, it's just a heavyweight fight. And the game seemed to always come down to the very end.
- [61:30]
Drew Franklin
And this is part of what's great about the NFL is the two biggest stars in the NFL are Mahomes and Allen. You could even make a case that if you throw in Kelsey, the three biggest stars of the NFL are in this game. They are two of the most successful franchises of the last four or five years. And they're in two secondary markets. I mean, that's what the NFL gets that really no other league gets is the ability to have games in Kansas City and Buffalo have this level of like, special.
- [62:07]
Matt Jones
And both have a little bit of. A little bit of bandwagon to them. Chiefs or Bills? It's almost like people just love the Bills. Like, even if it's not your team.
- [62:16]
Drew Franklin
You kind of thing.
- [62:18]
Matt Jones
No, that's what I mean.
- [62:19]
Drew Franklin
That's in the last few years.
- [62:21]
Matt Jones
No, but I mean people, they're like a darling to the NFL lately where the Chiefs have become a big bandwagon team because they're winning. So when those two teams are on tv, they both naturally have people for different reasons.
- [62:31]
Drew Franklin
You think the Chiefs are the evil team? The Bills are evil.
- [62:34]
Matt Jones
Not quite the Patriots level, but there are plenty of Chiefs fans in the last five years that ain't from Kansas City.
- [62:39]
Drew Franklin
That's true.
- [62:40]
Matt Jones
They've become that team. And then the Bills are just kind of. People love rooting for the Bills Mafia. So when you put them both on your tv, it's just one that's going to get a big audience.
- [62:48]
Drew Franklin
Can I make a controversial take? I think there's been too little Taylor Swift on TV this year. No, I mean, I find myself always wondering if she's at the game and now they've clearly like have a decision. They're not going to show her unless Travis scores a touchdown or something. So like the last game against the Commanders, he scored a touchdown. They showed her. And I found myself going, oh, she's here. I feel like Billy, I should have known that. I feel like they. Why wouldn't you show her? Just so that you little beta male fans get upset because they put a. Put her on tv.
- [63:29]
Billy
It was a little much last year. I'm fine with.
- [63:31]
Drew Franklin
But don't you think we've gone too far in the other direction?
- [63:34]
Billy
Yeah, but we know she's locked in watching every second.
- [63:37]
Drew Franklin
But I mean, they'll. They'll show Spike Lee at every Knicks game. Right. Probably multiple times. Why can't I see. Why can't we see Taylor Swift?
- [63:46]
Billy
Yeah, why not? Maybe we need some more.
- [63:48]
Drew Franklin
So that may be controversial, but I would say more Taylor Swift on camera.
- [63:51]
Matt Jones
I. I don't disagree. Like, they show the jets guy with the fireman hat every game. No one's like, get him off my tv.
- [63:58]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, they don't.
- [63:59]
Matt Jones
The Titans have this big mascot guy. They show him every game. No one's like, get the big Titan off my tv. It's just they got to show somebody. Show the most popular person in the building.
- [64:08]
Drew Franklin
They always sell those people in Jacksonville, like, eating their hoagies in the pool.
- [64:13]
Matt Jones
Is anybody booing the Hutchinson family? No.
- [64:15]
Drew Franklin
Me. I think we get a little. Little much Hutchinson.
- [64:20]
Matt Jones
Well, they did bring out the big. They have the big curtain for Taylor now in the back. The back. Big black tarp where you can't even see her walking.
- [64:26]
Drew Franklin
Oh, I didn't know that. They do.
- [64:27]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I think that might have been. She's. She had some issues with a stalker at the beginning of the year. Might have been related to that, but it is. They're hiding her a little more at the stadium than they were last season.
- [64:36]
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean, she. I get that she is a mega celebrity. I just think I shouldn't have to wonder if she's at the game. I think they should tell me. Like, I think if she goes to Buffalo, that's kind of an interesting idea.
- [64:49]
Matt Jones
And she better tell tailgate.
- [64:50]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And unlike Billy, she could probably get into Canada because she has a passport.
- [64:56]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I can't right now.
- [64:58]
Drew Franklin
When are you planning on fixing that? You know, it's probably going to take a while now because once the government reopens, there's probably a backlog of people trying to get a passport.
- [65:06]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [65:07]
Billy
Didn't plan on the government being shut down for over a month.
- [65:09]
Drew Franklin
They've talked about it for about six months.
- [65:11]
Matt Jones
Do you already have one that you need to renew or you don't have one at all?
- [65:14]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [65:15]
Billy
So it's expired now.
- [65:16]
Matt Jones
Okay. That helps you, though.
- [65:17]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Because then you don't have to go through quite.
- [65:19]
Matt Jones
You can even do it at home now. I took my passport photo myself this year. Well, I hear, like, change the laws. Yeah. I did it right in my kitchen.
- [65:25]
Billy
I hear you can get it done if you need it done. Like, you just got to drive to the right place.
- [65:28]
Matt Jones
Detroit.
- [65:29]
Drew Franklin
Wait, what does that mean, you can get it done if you need it?
- [65:32]
Billy
Well, I've heard, like, you act like.
- [65:33]
Drew Franklin
You'Re in the Mafia. You Got a congressman you can call.
- [65:37]
Billy
There's like a place you can go and you can get a passport.
- [65:39]
Matt Jones
Yeah, it's like a guy.
- [65:40]
Drew Franklin
There's like eight of them in the country. One's in Detroit. I've been to it. Okay. I had to do that. Once you drive, it's in Detroit. You sit there. You have to sit there like all day. You, you wait, they call you, then they tell you to come back. You wait and then they do it. It's like an eight hour day, though. And they got one in Chicago, one in Detroit, and I think one in Atlanta. And you have to make appointments and it's not necessarily always easy to get one.
- [66:05]
Billy
Yeah, well, I'll get on it then. Or at least make the drive because.
- [66:08]
Drew Franklin
You'Re not going to do it.
- [66:09]
Billy
I got a honeymoon coming up. Where?
- [66:10]
Drew Franklin
Where is it?
- [66:11]
Billy
We don't know yet, but I'd like.
- [66:12]
Matt Jones
To have Myrtle beach if you don't get your passport.
- [66:15]
Drew Franklin
Done. Enjoy.
- [66:16]
Matt Jones
Gallenberg. Yeah. Billy made it sound like he's got a guy like, I just got to go run this place.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. He just meet this dude. Yeah, he just calls, get a passport.
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Billy
You need a passport. I'll get you a passport.
- [66:26]
Drew Franklin
Might not be American, but the Colts and the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers looked human last week.
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Matt Jones
Did.
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Drew Franklin
Do you have the Colts coming back and they could go to 8 and 1 if they went in Pittsburgh, or is this the start of the reality check?
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Matt Jones
Nope. Going to catch me saying a bad word about the Colts. I have completely shut up about them. Shut up about them weeks ago. I think they're for real and they just keep on winning. And I fully expect Sunday night when we're sitting here doing this show at midnight, we're going to be talking about Jonathan Taylor having a three touchdown game again.
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Drew Franklin
Hmm. I mean, the colts are a 3 1/2 point favorite. I kind of feel like this is one of those games. This is like, forget about Aaron Rodgers. It's a mic. Tom home. Everybody thinks they're going to lose. He reminds you that I don't finish below.500. Do you? Why do you all forget that? Every single year I think they get this one, Drew, and I think they. I think they end up winning outright. I would bet Moneyline Pittsburgh here.
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Matt Jones
I will say if I were gambling on this one three and a half, I'd probably take the home team. But you're just not going to see me counting out the Colts. They burned me at the beginning of the year when I said they were going to be absolutely awful. And they have Such a Colts, I'm a Titans guy, beat us 13 times in a row.
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Drew Franklin
I mean wouldn't that be the reason.
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Matt Jones
Why you would Indianapolis? No, because I've done, I'm done getting burned by them this season. I'm just going to embrace that the Colts are good and that's just the reality I have to live with.
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Billy
He's so beaten down, he's starting to root for the rival of his team.
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Matt Jones
I'm not rooting for them, I'm just acknowledging how good they are.
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Drew Franklin
I think this whole weekend is about Chiefs and Bills and getting yourself ready for that one and whether or not Taylor's going to be there. That's what, that's what I'm going to be doing.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. We're blessed with a Lamar comeback tonight in prime time. Chiefs, bills in the 4:30 on Sunday. Other than that, there's some pretty wide spreads here on the board.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. All right, it's time for our finish it up with our survivor league pick in our touchdown league. Now I get the first pick this week on the survivor league. Drew of course is out. We have left him out of this segment since week four when he so rudely lost. So it's down to me and baby Billy. And so you look at the board to what you could choose the biggest spread this week. The two biggest spreads you got. The Rams are a 14 and a half point favorite on the Saints. You've got the. The packers are a 13 and a half point favorite with the Panthers. And then you got to go down a little bit and you get the Chargers or nine and a half with the Titans. Alright, so I go first. I can't pick the pack because I've already picked them. So I can't pick Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Ravens lines. Ravens only have two wins. I got one of them and got him. That was a pretty good one for me. I don't want to pick the Chargers going into Nashville.
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Matt Jones
You're just going to beat up my Titans, aren't you?
- [69:23]
Drew Franklin
I mean I don't want to but I don't know how. I can't. You all are awful.
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Matt Jones
We can't cover.
- [69:30]
Drew Franklin
Is there any way know that you all could win that game and not me?
- [69:34]
Matt Jones
Talk about win. I don't think. Was it like 10 point spread getting covered? Can't cover that. They cannot cover a spread.
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Drew Franklin
And the other option for me is the Rams and the Saints, you know, name the starter and they've been competitive. So I'm sitting here going back and forth because my guess is Billy's going to pick what I don't pick. So I've got to either go Chargers or I've got to go Rams, Packers, Panthers is one I can't pick.
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Matt Jones
That's right. You said you can't do that because.
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Drew Franklin
I've already used them. You know what? I'm going to take the Rams. They're at home. They're not going to lose at home. I'm going to take the Rams to beat the Saints. I could see a world where Justin Herbert doesn't play great, Cam Ward gets hot and Titans pull one off.
- [70:24]
Matt Jones
Thank you for your optimism.
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Drew Franklin
It's Bill, you can't pick the Jaguars, Cardinals, Bills, Colts, Chiefs, Patriots. So I guess you will probably be choosing. You could pick the packers or you could pick this. The. The Chargers against Titans. Who you want.
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Billy
Yeah, I'm going to continue to follow the Titans around and pick the Chargers in this one. It is just that type of year. I saw they gave Callahan and his staff all extensions over the off season and they've already fired them. So give me the Chargers now.
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Drew Franklin
Can you not worried it's on the road.
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Billy
Usually I am, but not in this case. No.
- [70:56]
Drew Franklin
Okay.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. You have to play through those home boos as they boo their own team.
- [71:01]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. So you have the Chargers, you know you have. We both have still a lot of options.
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Billy
Yeah, we've done good.
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Drew Franklin
I mean I still have not picked the Chiefs. You still have not picked. Neither of us have picked the Eagles, you know, so you still have a lot of options. So Ram. So you're. I'm going with the Rams, you're going with Chargers and that is our survivor league picks.
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Matt Jones
I'll just be over here watching. Guys. Looks like a fun sport you're playing.
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Drew Franklin
Who would you pick? What was left? I guess you would pick the packers, right? Against the Panthers.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [71:31]
Drew Franklin
Why do you like that one Panthers kind of show last week? They're not real.
- [71:36]
Matt Jones
That and the packers are. Have been very quiet. They're just.
- [71:40]
Drew Franklin
They're five one and one. I mean they would be the one seed right now in the nfc. I don't think a lot of people focus on that.
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Matt Jones
Have we even said their name today? I don't think we're the only ones. I mean that. I think that's consistent across the NFL right now. Listen to shows and stuff. Packers are just winning and not a big part of the talk right now, but I mean they will be.
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Drew Franklin
How many people you think know that they would be the one seed right now?
- [72:02]
Matt Jones
That tie sticking out helps them. I mean they should have won that game.
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Billy
But probably assume it's the Eagles at this point. But you're right. Green Bay right now, number one, you.
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Matt Jones
Don'T want your bucks to go to.
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Drew Franklin
Green Bay in January. Unless you're Jimmy Garoppolo. You cannot get that done. A droed playoff winning Green Bay. He's not it twice.
- [72:19]
Matt Jones
That's right.
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Drew Franklin
There's only like it's only done three times ever. And twice it was Jimmy Garoppolo.
- [72:24]
Matt Jones
See we. We talked earlier about was the Flacco if he had won again. Just go keep signing him to beat the Packers. Same with Jimmy G. Sign with Jimmy G. Go in one, go get him.
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Drew Franklin
That's right. Well, thank you all very much for listening. Enjoy the games. We will be back Sunday night. Why are you looking at me?
- [72:39]
Matt Jones
Oh, our touchdowns Tutty you don't want me. That's my favorite part of betting and watching football. Touchdowns.
- [72:49]
Drew Franklin
You got me. You got me a little excited, right? Well, I can't find my sheet now. All right, there we go. So touchdown parlay. Sorry about that. I forgot right now I have, I got. I won last week. I have three. Billy has three. Drew only has one. The good thing for Drew since he's been so bad at this is that he gets to pick first this week. So Drew, you cannot pick Jamar Chase. Nico Collins, Najoku Jake, Jalen, Hurts Saquon or CD Lamb. Who would you like?
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Matt Jones
Well, obviously I'm going to go with a charger.
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Drew Franklin
Now.
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Matt Jones
They're running back so shaky. So the situation is a little shaky. I'm going to go with a guy we named earlier as our Halloween contest winner. I haven't used Jameer Gibbs yet. They played the Vikings who I just learned moments ago have a trash quarterback according to Billy. So the Lions will have the ball a lot and I say Gibbs, foxy and some.
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Drew Franklin
So you're going Jamar Gibbs, Jeff Hardy.
- [73:46]
Matt Jones
I'll call him this week.
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Drew Franklin
So you're going to running back. So that means you Billy have to either pick a wide receiver, tight end or quarterback. You have. Well, you can't pick scatter boo anyway. But so you've had Caleb Williams, you've had Jackson dart and you've had McCaffrey. So who else would you like?
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Billy
Yeah, I don't want to pick a quarterback. I'll let you do that, Matt.
- [74:06]
Drew Franklin
So I like picking the quarterback.
- [74:08]
Billy
I am going to go chase Brown, running back for Cincinnati. You'll get to watch it up close and personal. I. I think they're starting to get Back on track a little bit with the running game. Give me a Chase Brown touchdown.
- [74:18]
Drew Franklin
You really pick the most random people. You pick Chase Brown. Well, I got all the people in the NFL. You're like, I want to put on my money on Chase Brown.
- [74:26]
Billy
Well, it worked with Dart and Scatter Boo. And we're just going to.
- [74:29]
Drew Franklin
That is true. The two most random picks you've picked have hit. All right, so that means I got to pick a quarterback and I got to pick a quarterback to run in. I have now, just for the record, picked three quarterback. So I've had Lamar, I've had Daniel Jones, and I've had Jalen Hurt. So I'm sitting here looking, you know, I like to pick teams that I know will score a lot of points. And this week, you know, I don't think Matthew Stafford's gonna score. I like score running, touchdown. I don't really think. Well, wait a minute. I've already picked Lamar.
- [75:06]
Matt Jones
J.J. mcCarthy. Do it.
- [75:08]
Billy
Don't do that.
- [75:09]
Matt Jones
Don't you do it.
- [75:09]
Billy
Don't you dare.
- [75:12]
Drew Franklin
You know what? I'm going to go ahead and pick Josh Allen. Even though it's against the Chiefs. I think that'll be a high scoring game.
- [75:19]
Matt Jones
He had two last week.
- [75:20]
Drew Franklin
It's probably going to be in the 30s for both teams and fact is because they play so fast paced, a lot of possessions, a lot of chances to score. Give me Josh Allen to get one. It seems like he always wants to get one against the Chiefs.
- [75:33]
Matt Jones
I was going to say that it's, you know, football's a team sport. There's a little one on one Alan Mahomes and he's going to want to find the end zone as much as he can.
- [75:41]
Drew Franklin
I don't know what the numbers would be in terms of the odds you could get, but I gotta think a Josh Allen, Chase Brown, who'd you pick? Drew Gibbs and Jamar. Jameer Gibbs.
- [75:55]
Billy
Oh, that's two running backs. Did I screw it up? Do I need.
- [75:57]
Matt Jones
Oh, you did receiver. Yeah. You went running back.
- [75:59]
Billy
I'm sorry.
- [76:00]
Drew Franklin
All right, well, see, we're just over.
- [76:03]
Matt Jones
Because if you go quarterback, Matt can now go receiver.
- [76:06]
Drew Franklin
Sorry, you already screwed it up. You can't pick a quarterback, you got to pick a receiver.
- [76:10]
Billy
That's all right. I got one ready to go.
- [76:12]
Matt Jones
Should pick a charger.
- [76:13]
Billy
And we go to the Titans game once again.
- [76:15]
Matt Jones
Little Lad.
- [76:16]
Drew Franklin
There you go.
- [76:16]
Billy
Give me Little Lad to get into the end zone.
- [76:19]
Matt Jones
Almost said lad for my pick.
- [76:21]
Drew Franklin
You're picking who? Little lad.
- [76:23]
Billy
Lad McConkey. The Georgia Bulldog receiver. He's in his second year. Slow start to the year, but he's. It's starting to pick up. Quinton Johnston isn't getting catches.
- [76:31]
Drew Franklin
I cannot find my sheet. All right, so you're. So you're picking Lad Monkey. Yeah, Right.
- [76:36]
Billy
And Chase Brown's my extra pick.
- [76:37]
Drew Franklin
I guess, first of all, I. I could not have done this in a more disorganized fashion.
- [76:41]
Matt Jones
We can hear your.
- [76:42]
Drew Franklin
I mean, your papers. Look, I'm gonna have to write Lad Monkey. All right, so now even better odds, probably Jir Gibbs. Lad Monkey, Josh Allen.
- [76:53]
Matt Jones
Lad has three touchdowns this year, all in the last four weeks.
- [76:56]
Drew Franklin
There you go, Billy Does. All right, thank you folks very much for listening. We will be back Sunday night, which will be after the Seahawks commanders game. We'll see you later. It's Cover Zero. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast Podcast. Morning, Zoe.
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