NFL Cover Zero: How many teams are capable of winning the Super Bowl?

Summary

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KSR: NFL Cover Zero

Episode: How many teams are capable of winning the Super Bowl?
Date: January 5, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones & Drew Franklin, joined by Billy
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the dramatic close of the NFL regular season, offers spirited recaps of chaotic games (especially Ravens-Steelers), and sets the stage for the most wide-open NFL playoff field in recent memory. The hosts, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, with contributions from Billy, combine sharp analysis with their signature humor and banter, dissecting key moments, coaching controversies, quirky traditions, and the prospects of every playoff contender.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Ravens vs. Steelers: A Classic Finale

Main Takeaways:

• The final regular season Sunday Night Football game between the Ravens and Steelers delivered maximum chaos and heartbreak.
  • Both teams' usually reliable kickers missed crucial attempts.
  • The game was decided on a missed 44-yarder by Ravens replacement kicker Tyler Loop, and a rare missed PAT by Steelers' Chris Boswell.
• Emotional fallout included Loop crying immediately after the miss, and discussion on the pressures unique to NFL kickers.
• The crew reflected on how a single play shaped futures — for kickers, coaches (John Harbaugh mentioned as a potential firing candidate), and franchise records.

Memorable Quotes:

• "Kickers, man. Nothing better than starting with people's failures." — Drew Franklin (03:20)
• "Really, they both robbed all of us of maybe more football. Maybe we're not even talking right now. We're watching Lamar and Aaron Rodgers just seeing who's the least washed right now." — Matt Jones (05:49)

Timestamps:

• Recap and analysis begin at [02:24]
• Kicker talk and aftermath [03:09]–[05:56]

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Coaching Carousel and Steelers’ Future

• Mike Tomlin’s fluctuating public sentiment—famously booed by Steelers fans recently, kissed the camera post-victory.
• Speculation: If Tomlin left, he’d be “the most wanted coach in the league”, with potential landing spots (including rivals).
• Tomlin’s streak of nine-win seasons continues to amaze.

Noteworthy:

• “He would be if he's a free agent. Anyone would want him, right?” — Drew Franklin [08:23]

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Group Chats & NFL Fandom Humor

• The hosts’ group chats provide fodder and running jokes. They admit many of their best lines are crowd-sourced from these threads (cue “Tyler Poop”).
• Discussion of group chat etiquette, iPhone vs Android banter (“green people are going to be like Tyler Loop in terms of their ability to go anywhere”).
• Reflection on the emotional minefield for failed kickers — especially being young, likable, and outmatched in a locker room.

Timestamps: [09:30]–[12:21]
Quote: “If we're going to throw me under the bus here, I'm going to throw my group chat.” — Matt Jones (10:34)

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AFC South Drama: Texans, Jags, Colts, and Kicker Oddities

• Texans pulled Davis Mills in the second half after Jags-Titans game outcome made their result moot.
• Bill notes Davis Mills’ unexpected QB success this year and speculates on his offseason value ("could be a guy you'd look at").
• Noting Jaguars kicker Cam Little’s record-breaking kicking distances, sparking tongue-in-cheek calls to change kicking rules.
• Inside jokes about “specialists' group chats” and the secret fraternity of long snappers.

Timestamps: [13:23]–[18:04]
Quote: “Long snappers have to hug each other and go, we are pulling one on the world, right? We are using a roster spot and we don't do anything." — Drew Franklin (17:53)

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Jaguars’ Culture, Grills, and Newfound Respect

• Trevor Lawrence received "grills" post-game, explained as a Duval County/Jacksonville thing.
• The Jags are described as "the most disrespected good team" despite Lawrence's performance surge.

Timestamps: [18:52]–[20:05]

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Browns vs. Bengals, Miles Garrett, and Disappointments

• Browns win, hit the season win over. Coaching future (Stefanski) in question.
• Miles Garrett celebrates breaking the sack record—draws Bengals coach Zach Taylor’s ire for the mid-game celebration.
• Who's the NFL's most disappointing: Bengals or Chiefs?

Timestamps: [23:56]–[27:06]
Quote: “If I'm an Eagles fan, I'm livid ... just play our guys, get a comfortable league, then bench them.” — Matt Jones (45:50)

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NFC South Shenanigans & Carolina Mike

• Buffoonery of the division: Panthers win the division despite a “depressing” end to Billy’s Bucs season.
• The phenomenon of “Carolina Mike” and his one-hit Panthers anthem at sporting events.
• Observations on fans’ confusion when faced with Panthers lore out of context.

Timestamps: [32:37]–[35:12]

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Packers, Vikings, Bears, and the Playoff Landscape

• Some games received no Red Zone coverage; the impact on team morale and season retrospectives.
• Injury reports and uncertain futures for key QBs (including notes on J.J. McCarthy and Davis Mills).

Timestamps: [36:16]–[37:38]

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Red Zone Farewells & Broadcast Nostalgia

• Emotional sign-off by Scott Hansen, sparking speculation: “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened today.”
• Tributes to Andrew Siciliano and the unique role of Red Zone hosts.

Timestamps: [37:38]–[39:27]

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Four O’ Clock Games & Playoff Seeding Madness

• Stafford’s MVP race, arguments over stat-padding.
• Raiders secure the #1 pick; Pete Carroll’s possible sendoff after a win over the Chiefs.
• Random tangent: remembering Joe Bugle, NFL coach.

Timestamps: [42:22]–[45:12]

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Coaches’ Gambles, Resting Starters, and Risks

• Eagles rest their starters vs. Commanders and lose the No. 2 seed.
• Discussion about playoff seeding’s crucial impact: did Nick Sirianni overthink it?

Timestamps: [45:50]–[47:00]

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Playoff Preview & the “Shakey’s Game” Tradition

• Annual nod to Bill Simmons' "Shakey's Pizza" tradition for the first Saturday wild-card game, this year Rams vs. Panthers.
• Texans finally avoid their regular slot as the "Shakey's Game."

Timestamps: [53:21]–[54:34]

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Wide-Open Playoff Field: Who Can Win It All?

Key Theme: This may be the most uncertain, "open" playoff field in NFL memory.

• Only Steelers and Panthers are considered true long shots.
• Realistic cases could be made for 11 teams to win the Super Bowl.

Timestamps: [71:01]–[72:32] Quote:

• "For the first time that I can ever remember, you could make a case for the other 12... I genuinely think 11 teams could win the Super Bowl, and I'm not sure that's ever been true." — Drew Franklin (71:40)
• “No One is truly like elite, elite, elite. Most years there's a team where you know somebody's have to knock them off. We don't have that this year.” — Matt Jones (71:40)

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Memorable Quotes & Fun Banter

• “If you’re crying immediately... you were like preemptively crying before, like you knew this could happen.” — Drew Franklin, on Tyler Loop’s emotional moment [06:00]
• “Do you think God is like, Tyler Loop, I'm going to make your life miserable for the next…?” — Drew Franklin, on ‘divine intervention’ in sports [67:19]
• “Long snappers have to hug each other and go, we are pulling one on the world, right?” — Drew Franklin [17:53]
• “I think the Chargers weakness has been their offensive line. But the Patriots have not done a great job getting to the passers. So I think that's okay… I just feel like the Patriots had such an easy schedule. It's got to catch up to them at some point.” — Drew Franklin, playoff matchup preview [65:24]
• “I want to congratulate the Texans… This is the first time in their history that they are in Wild Card Weekend and NOT the first 4:30 Saturday game.” — Matt Jones [54:34]

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Playoff Matchup Breakdown (with Timestamps)

• Rams vs. Panthers (“The Shakey’s Game”): [54:34]–[55:19]
• Bears vs. Packers: [58:01]–[60:03]
• Bills vs. Jaguars: [61:04]–[62:08]
• 49ers vs. Eagles: [64:38]–[65:05]
• Chargers vs. Patriots: [65:10]–[65:52]
• Texans vs. Steelers: [68:35]–[69:03]

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Notable Side Conversations

• The cultural phenomenon of "Carolina Mike" and one-hit sports songs. [32:37]
• AI “predicting” future Super Bowl champions, including ‘Harris Teeter’ grocery store and ‘KISS’ the band, mocking overinflated tech optimism. [49:03]–[51:45]
• Playoff pool parties in Jacksonville—cost, rules, and the mythos (Lucha Libre mask, "one-piece only?"). [62:08]–[64:03]
• Meeting celebrity idols—how to talk to famous people without being a super fan. [29:40]–[31:45]
• Spoilers for “Joker 2” and offhand TV/film discussion. [73:40]–[75:36]

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Tone & Style

In classic KSR fashion, the pod interweaves sharp, sometimes self-deprecating analysis, group-chat humor, irreverence about NFL traditions, and quick pivots into pop culture and local sports folklore. The rapport among Matt, Drew, and Billy creates a uniquely relatable, comedic overlay—“just friends talking football, life, and everything in between.”

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Conclusion

This episode serves both as a cathartic wrap on the NFL regular season and an energetic launchpad for wild card week. With only a couple of teams seen as true long shots, the playoffs are portrayed as “the most open ever,” setting up an anything-can-happen January.

Teaser for Next Episode:

• Midweek podcast will feature a special “touchdown draft” for playoff games and a breakdown of Black Monday’s coaching carnage. Picks and full brackets are coming up next.

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Playoff Field Summary

“11 teams could win the Super Bowl. That’s amazing. It’s going to be arguably the most open playoff of all time. There’s not one team in the playoffs that I think is guaranteed to win their first game.” — Drew Franklin [72:09]

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Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Well, that was a heck of a finish to the regular season. It is week 18 of NFL Cover Zero. We just finished watching the Ravens and the Steele. It feels like every Sunday Night Football game. Monday Night Football game this year has been unbelievable. If the NFL had wanted to script that ending, I'm not Sure, they could have scripted it much more exciting and heartbreaking. Drew Raven Steelers delivers once again.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we started the year with the Ravens pulling off a chaotic game on Sunday Night football and Week 1 in Buffalo. And we wrap up the regular season leaving the Ravens behind after that chaotic finish.

[Drew Franklin]

Kickers, man, I think I saw that Sunday. I've often thought that it felt like the Ravens and Steelers play on Sunday night more than anyone else. It turns out that's true. The Ravens and the Sealers are the matchup that has occurred the most on Sunday Night Football. And this was the. This probably was the best one. I mean, there's a lot of things to talk about, but let's just start with kickers. Nothing better than starting with people's failures.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that tells the story at the end.

[Drew Franklin]

Just think about these two stats we were talking to Billy about people who give stats. These are. These are two amazing Boswell, Pittsburgh's kicker missed the extra point that looked like it was going to cost him the game. He had not missed an extra point since December 2023.

[Matt Jones]

It's a long time misses it.

[Drew Franklin]

Tyler Loop.

[Matt Jones]

Tyler Loop. That's right.

[Drew Franklin]

Is that a person?

[Billy]

Baltimore's kicker.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. Didn't know that. By the way, I had someone text me right before the kick. Justin Tucker is going to make this. They have not been keeping up with the news.

[Matt Jones]

Have been listening to cover zero. Well, we break down all kickers or.

[Drew Franklin]

Just reading the reports of things, but it said loop was 28 of 28 on field goals inside 50 yards. So two people who did not miss had the pressure squeeze him right there at the end.

[Matt Jones]

You know, if Luke makes it, we're talking about Boswell. Once Boswell missed that one. Throwing off the math there keep us from OT. I. I feel like it's the better of the two endings. At least the guy that missed the 44 yarder who's not been with the team for a long time, at least he's the one that missed.

[Drew Franklin]

Was crying.

[Matt Jones]

But think of Boswell misses an extra point.

[Drew Franklin]

But Boswell, I think Tyler Loop, I mean once he. Like you yourself, you wanted to say Tyler Lou. No Tyler Poop.

[Matt Jones]

I know I said it under my breath. I wasn't going to bring that to the podcast. That was during the kick.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel bad for him. Boswell at least has some built in equity with the Pittsburgh fan base.

[Matt Jones]

He was a lot closer though. Lot closer. Extra point. Rogers was so happy when he got that touchdown. Rogers was already in the playoffs.

[Drew Franklin]

Rather have made it Lamar or Aaron Rodgers? Lamar by the way, that's two years.

[Matt Jones]

In a row guy can catch a break.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, Andrews drops it last year in the playoffs and. And then Loopy Lou misses. I'm sorry. Loop was crying. You do not have any sympathy.

[Matt Jones]

Well, really, they both robbed all of us of maybe more football. Maybe we're not even talking right now. We're watching Lamar and Aaron Rodgers just seeing who's the least washed right now. Playing until the end for this spot.

[Drew Franklin]

He cried immediately, like he didn't even have time for the gravity of it to hit him. Which makes me think, and I say this like with genuine sympathy for him. It makes me think he was like too scared when he starts. Sometimes the moment if you're crying immediately, then you were like preemptively crying before, like you knew this could happen.

[Matt Jones]

And hot take. I think his coaching staff could done a little better. I would have probably run another play with a timeout that is on the road in Pittsburgh with the playoffs on the line. True. Settling from 44 yards. And they missed it by a lot. He did. But I would have at least tried to get him a little more room. They had time in a timeout to give him space. Still tough way for it to end.

[Drew Franklin]

What's also what's. What's nuts though are how many people made egregious errors to get to that point. I mean, you had Jalen Ramsey just letting Zay Flowers run down the field.

[Matt Jones]

Tyler Loop did not save Boswell for me. He saved Jalen Ramsey because Jalen Ramsey would have been the talk of that loss.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Both instances.

[Drew Franklin]

Both. One. The Zay Flowers catch and then the catch at the end, that river, the. That. What was the guy's name?

[Matt Jones]

Likely.

[Drew Franklin]

Likely made. And then, I mean, this wasn't an error so much as he just fell. The. The.

[Billy]

The Baltimore guy.

[Drew Franklin]

Baltimore guy. Omze. He falls. That's.

[Matt Jones]

You hate to see a slip. Ramsey was just him being old. He's not a safety. He made a mistake. The slip would have been a hard way to go out.

[Drew Franklin]

So it was a great game. I feel bad for Lamar and you know, Al Aaron Rodgers, like, they play Houston, they could win, get DK back. Think about all the things that are different now. Does John Harbaugh get fired because of Loop de Loo?

[Matt Jones]

It's tough. They had some injuries, some they gambled with some guys on the back end of their careers. But I mean, 8 and 8 with that team is bad.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. 8, 9 or 8.

[Billy]

9.

[Matt Jones]

Excuse me. 8 and 8 going in that game.

[Drew Franklin]

And then Lamar Will be back. But what did you see? Mike Tomlin did a kiss into the camera at the end.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that stadium had been booing him just about a month ago.

[Drew Franklin]

Dude, he should. If I actually think now, he should walk away himself and kind of do everybody kiss my tail.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Because whatever happens next there, it's going to be a pretty big. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers has another year left, but this. It's not like this is the future.

[Drew Franklin]

Whatever job is the best job available. He could go take it immediately. Like he'll. He would be if he's a free agent. Anyone would want him, right?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, come to Nashville. I would. I would love to have my Tomlin compared to what they're talking about.

[Drew Franklin]

What if he ended up in Baltimore?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, in Baltimore that would be an option. They should take it. I mean, still a great coach. Even though Steelers quarterback.

[Drew Franklin]

He's had since been Roethlisberger.

[Matt Jones]

That would be weird to see. I don't know if he could do that switch.

[Drew Franklin]

But I mean his record of winning, you know, of. Of nine win seasons is unbelievable. That was just. That was a great game. That's what makes the NFL an awesome sport. Is that that kind of game right there? Raven Steelers is the best rivalry in a Winner goes to playoffs, losers out. Like, how can you have it any better?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Late in the fourth quarter had a couple of different, you know, friend group texts. Be like, everybody get to Sunday Night Football. If you're not watching, it's chaos. And that was before, like the fourth down.

[Drew Franklin]

That was. Who. Who is your group text that doesn't know what Money, not football. I mean, it's Sunday. Like somebody's like, hey, you may not have thought of this. Steelers, Ravens.

[Matt Jones]

I don't always. Why it's like something's going crazy. Yeah, we do all the time.

[Drew Franklin]

Are y'.

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[Matt Jones]

Are y' all tuned in to whatever name of basketball, whatever. Just making sure by his locked in. Point is they're talking about how chaotic it was. And that was before the extra point, the fourth down and the missed kick at the end. It was already chaotic. Chaotic. Pretty early when they started trading touchdowns late in the fourth quarter.

[Drew Franklin]

I want to know who Billy was on that group texted. I can tell you did someone. Was someone not watching?

[Matt Jones]

I would say most weren't watching.

[Billy]

Okay, how many people is in the group?

[Matt Jones]

Seven, eight, including me. Okay. Kyle said if you're not watching this game is off the rails.

[Drew Franklin]

I like Kyle.

[Matt Jones]

And then somebody hit with a heart. So they're probably watching it.

[Drew Franklin]

I like that My mom's big.

[Matt Jones]

And then Derek said. Oh, Derek said, extra point. Incoming dirt. So then we started getting some live commentary.

[Billy]

That's why you have to mute the group chat.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, it's 100 a day, easy.

[Drew Franklin]

Seven or eight people, though, is not bad that I'm in a group. I'm in my fellowship. Group chat is 25 people. And when they get going. When they get going, I'm like, all right, everybody, just let's say if we're.

[Matt Jones]

Going to tell them my group chat. I got to be honest, more like Tyler poop came from the group chat. So if we're going to throw me under the bus here, I'm going to throw my group chat.

[Drew Franklin]

Is it the possibility that over all.

[Matt Jones]

These years, just stealing from the group.

[Drew Franklin]

All the funny things you've said have been a collective, like, writing? Yeah, it's like a writing considered that.

[Matt Jones]

I can't even say the name of the group on the air. In fact, when it pops up on my phone, I get really embarrassed if anyone's around, because just the name in itself is.

[Drew Franklin]

That's interesting.

[Matt Jones]

Inappropriate.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I mean, I. I think that's okay. I had to give a speech once, and I had to write a lot of jokes, and I had a group my. We don't have a group chat, but I've created one for it. And probably 50 of the jokes came from the group. So I feel like it's all right.

[Matt Jones]

They're taking over. It's the ones where you have 30 people and there's a green person in.

[Drew Franklin]

There that's green people should be. The green people are going to be like Tyler Loop in terms of their ability to go anywhere. Why do we keep making fun of him? I feel bad for him. I genuinely do. Like, that would be the loneliest existence in the world. You're with a group of people who are bigger than you, stronger than you, faster than you, cooler than you, richer than you, and you are like, hey, guys, I get to play kicker. And then you miss.

[Matt Jones]

And he's a rookie.

[Drew Franklin]

No, he's not. He's also younger than everybody.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he was already getting the laundry and bringing the donuts every morning.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, my goodness.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if he's doing laundry. I think they employ people to do that, but, yeah, he's a rookie. This is gonna hurt for a while. I don't mean to pick on him either. That's why I'm throwing my group chat under the bus. His rookie year ends with not even, like, I missed it. And there Was more football left. This was a direct. You're either in or you're out.

[Drew Franklin]

So he went to the University of Arizona. And look, he's got such a.

[Matt Jones]

Like, he does.

[Drew Franklin]

He's got, like, such a nice, like, boy haircut.

[Matt Jones]

A little Davis Mills thing going on, too.

[Billy]

Yeah, we'll get to him.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, my goodness. Well, all right, Amy.

[Matt Jones]

His only three misses before tonight. Looking at his stats, we're all from 50 or more.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, his Instagram says he's an athlete.

[Matt Jones]

He was 7 for 7 from. From 4040 to 49 for tonight's game.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm sorry, Tyler Loop, I wish you the best.

[Matt Jones]

Well, maybe we can get him on the pod.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know if this is, like. I don't think he should use this as his moment. Call him right now to take over. Well, all right. So the Steelers make it. So now we have the playoffs. They are set for next week. Well, I guess. Well, let's go through the games and then we'll. We'll talk about the. The. The playoffs in a little bit. So our one o' clock games, you mentioned the Texans. They beat the Colts. Why do you want to talk about Davis Mills?

[Billy]

Well, they won and he played the entire second half. They didn't play C.J. stroud.

[Drew Franklin]

Did you think that was weird that they substituted him?

[Matt Jones]

I can tell you why they did it.

[Drew Franklin]

Why?

[Matt Jones]

They needed the Jags to win. They got in the locker room, turned on the TV. The Jags were up 317 at halftime against the Titans. And they probably said, so they needed.

[Drew Franklin]

The Jags to lose.

[Matt Jones]

Excuse me? Jags to lose. It was meaningless if The Jags won 317 at halftime against the Titans. I assume there's a TV in the locker room. And they thought, all right, that's. They pulled a lot of people, not just Stroud.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, that's a good call. I. You know, I. This is why we have you on for your expert analysis. I didn't.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I was.

[Drew Franklin]

The.

[Matt Jones]

Me and the Titans coaches or. No, no, me and the Texans coaches were the only people still watching. Titans jacks. So that's why I just. I'm glad someone else out there had eyeballs on that game.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, so let's do both these. The Jags beat the Titans, the Texans beat the Colts to AFC south matchups. I didn't realize till before the game that Philip Rivers retired.

[Matt Jones]

Did that get.

[Drew Franklin]

Did that get said before the game?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

So what? Just. Why not play the last game?

[Matt Jones]

Couldn't do it.

[Billy]

Too sore.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, play three Games. That's it. I mean, you have one more for the rest of your life. Go play. Like, why not?

[Matt Jones]

I think he just wanted to hand it off to Riley Leonard. Kind of like I'm handing off the Colts quarterback jersey to you. Rally Leonard.

[Drew Franklin]

But I mean, listen, it's a. It was a great story and he actually did much better than I thought. But he was owing three.

[Matt Jones]

One of his kids probably had like a recital or something.

[Drew Franklin]

He was on the sidelines. He was eating a corn dog most of the game.

[Matt Jones]

There's a game January 4th. I can't make it that game, guys. I'll do your last three.

[Drew Franklin]

Why would he not play the last game?

[Matt Jones]

He had enough. Went out on top.

[Drew Franklin]

I think the Colts went out on bottom.

[Billy]

I think the Colts wanted to see what they had in Riley Leonard. It was his first start, so maybe he saw that.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, they clearly didn't think they had much, which is why Philip Rivers was on the team to begin with. Right. Well, they lost. So the Texas with Davis Mills. What's his record? 23. And oh, this year it's incredible.

[Billy]

4 and, oh, I think the Texans have won nine.

[Drew Franklin]

Quarterback controversy. Texas have won nine straight.

[Billy]

Texans have won nine straight. They're the hottest team in the NFL. Meanwhile, the Colts lost seven in a row to miss the playoffs after starting eight and two, I believe.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know the exact timeline, but Davis Mills is somewhere in the beginning of that win streak.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

If not started it. He's game two or three.

[Drew Franklin]

He might be a guy that. In all seriousness, if you're a team that needs a quarterback, you would look at in the off season. Right. Because he. When he played before, C.J. stroud wasn't. He's a quarterback for you. He was. He was all right. So. I mean, why wouldn't you look at him?

[Matt Jones]

He's been there like five years since Stroud's been there. I don't think they have to use him. Before Stroud, he was like the starter for a season, and I think he was okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, maybe not.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they kept him around for.

[Drew Franklin]

Three more years because they got the number one pick and pick, C.J. stroud, so.

[Matt Jones]

Well, he's been fine this year.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well. And he's one of the best quarterbacks in Stanford history.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And I, you know, that they. Another Stanford debut we'll get to later today. Big name. But I thought the AFC was going to be terrible. Get AFC south, you get two. Two teams in. And then the Jags that put on the Titans today. Oh, by the way there was a moment in the Titans game I know you two would hate. Cam Little kicked a 67 yard field goal and I think it was still on its way up.

[Drew Franklin]

He single handedly should have the kicking rules changed because he's a little shrimp too. And he kicks it like he doesn't even look like he's trying. And he's kicked now the two longest field goals in history this year. And you're not going to tell me that he's just some superhuman. He's not the Tiger woods of kicking.

[Matt Jones]

And he was like giggling about it. Like that was. Yeah, like Scooby back.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll do the kickers have a group chat, like where they're all, oh yes. Do you think kickers, do you think they support each other? Like, do you think there are kickers saying hang in there.

[Matt Jones]

It's such a cutthroat position where they'll, they'll fire you in a heartbeat and get the next guy. I think they're constantly just rooting for others to fail.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Matt Jones]

So you think it's one bad game and they'll cut.

[Drew Franklin]

You think it's like the Real Housewives of kickers.

[Matt Jones]

Definitely.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, they all want to. They all are like nice to each other, but really they want each other to fall in the ocean.

[Matt Jones]

And it's probably like golf where they all pretend they're rooting for each other being on their brain. When they're on the green, they're like miss it. They, they don't say it. They'll shake your hand, they'll applaud you. But on the inside, you know, they're.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, I don't know if I've ever noticed this, but like when at the end of games when everybody goes and hugs is the only people, the kickers.

[Matt Jones]

Hug the other kickers seems like the specialist finding long snappers. They'll hug a kicker, punter, kicker. Long snappers find each other.

[Drew Franklin]

Long snappers have to hug each other and go, we are pulling one on the world, right? We are using a roster spot and we don't do anything.

[Matt Jones]

And I think the Jags long snapper was their only Pro Bowler and they've like been celebrating him.

[Drew Franklin]

How do you have, I mean he's on the posters. How do you even have a Pro bowl long? How do you determine who's good?

[Billy]

You snap real good.

[Drew Franklin]

But I mean I, off the top of my head can't think of one bad long snap this year. Like on a punt, can you think of one?

[Billy]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

It feels like it should be a 32 way tie.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think because he's being celebrated so much in Jacksonville. The other long snappers are like, dude, you're flying too close to the sun chill. We're supposed to be incognito here. We don't want people to really zoom in on us and see what we're doing.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, probably. Well, anyway, there's your Texans. Colts and got hurt. I saw first draft and hopefully not too bad. Shoulder maybe or something like that. They scored though, on the first drive.

[Matt Jones]

Score on the play, got hurt and.

[Billy]

Trevor Lawrence got grills in the post game locker room.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw that. So they bought him grills?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Why?

[Billy]

I think that's a Duvall county thing.

[Drew Franklin]

Is it? Yes. So everyone in Jacksonville gets grills?

[Billy]

I wouldn't say everybody, but I think it is part of the culture of that city. First of all, how would they were talking about it.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a problem. So it's not like you just.

[Billy]

No, I'm not just pulling this.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, I would. I mean, if I were looking for Duval county culture, I would usually come to you, but I'm not trying to not trust you.

[Matt Jones]

He is our Floridian on the show.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that is true. So that's a Duval thing. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Is Liam Cohen.

[Drew Franklin]

Did I see it was only on his bottom teeth.

[Billy]

I thought he had on top and bottom, but there's a meme of an AI generated Trevor Lawrence with grills that goes around.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, okay. And so they actually got him the real ones. Okay, well, that's kind of nice. They are without question the most disrespected good team, right? Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they've been on fire lately, especially Lawrence. He and Cohen started the year. I think we even talked about it. They're like arguing on the sidelines. Looked like they didn't get along. You wondered what was going on. And now here we are at the end of the season and Cohen has been obviously great for that team and great for Lawrence. He's been playing great.

[Drew Franklin]

Throws.

[Matt Jones]

No, he's been good the last month and a half. Two months.

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[Drew Franklin]

All right, so then you had the Browns beat the Bengals. The only thing I cared about this game is that did you see the post game? Joe Burrow's hair kept getting in his eyes.

[Matt Jones]

No, I didn't see that. I wouldn't dialed in for the Bengals Browns post game. Usually I am.

[Drew Franklin]

Well he, he, he clearly wanted his hair to be out but it just kept falling into his eyes and he, but he just kept letting it give.

[Matt Jones]

It the blow though.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he did it probably just to increase the female thirst trap. It was. I think it was his version of Aura Farming.

[Matt Jones]

And that a thing.

[Drew Franklin]

It was a weird thing to Aura Farm when you lost the last game of the season to your rival to the Browns. They did it sounds like they're bringing back their coach though. The Bengals.

[Matt Jones]

Bengals fans are not happy about that. They've been complaining about him maybe before game one when the record was oh and oh they were done with him. I'm pretty surprised by that.

[Drew Franklin]

The Browns with the win by the way hit the over which I think surprised a lot of people and they.

[Billy]

Probably won't keep their coach which I.

[Drew Franklin]

Think is weird because I think he's a good coach. But I guess shockingly in the Stefanski vs Shador thing is Shador going to win? Is Shador going to be. I mean they can pick a quarterback. Should they? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I don't love the options where they'd be drafting maybe another year.

[Drew Franklin]

They're going to be what, fifth or sixth, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But I just don't think there's that many pick like Raiders are going to get one.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think it's the Raiders will get one.

[Matt Jones]

There's six Cardinals, maybe Jets I guess Jets I think at that point maybe just roll with them again. Yeah, I don't think he's the answer though. Just add it to the list of Browns qb. The carousel will continue whether it's this.

[Drew Franklin]

Offseason or all right, let's talk about the NFC South.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe they go get Davis Mills and.

[Billy]

Miles Garrett broke the sack record.

[Matt Jones]

That was cool.

[Drew Franklin]

Well yeah, we need to talk about. Okay. Zach Taylor whined about that though. They did a five minute like celebration during or he said it was five minutes. I don't know how long it was. But he. He breaks the sacks record, which was cool. I loved his dad in the stands with the camera. I thought that was. I thought that was a neat thing. He breaks the sack record, they stop the game and do a little celebration. Zach Taylor said he was not informed about that and he was not happy. He was like, there's five minutes left in the game. It was his key point. You should have let me know you're going to do that.

[Matt Jones]

I would have said to him, zach, no one is watching this game except for the off chance Miles Gary gets that sack. So we're going to honor it. No one is here to watch you, and you should be lucky. You're getting five more minutes in the National Football League.

[Drew Franklin]

It seemed like the Bengals didn't want him to get it. Like they were doing things to not let him get it.

[Matt Jones]

That wasn't a lay down. That wasn't the old bread far.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, he got right to him, but it wasn't like they just let up and let him have his moment.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'm with you. I think that was an earned. That was an earned final sack.

[Matt Jones]

And then one thing they can hang their hat on.

[Drew Franklin]

Bengals gotta be. Are they the most disappointing team of the year?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Cause I mean, a.

[Drew Franklin]

Chiefs. Chiefs are disappointing too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. That's gotta be the answer. Bengals are up there, though, because that offense was still supposed to be a lot more exciting.

[Drew Franklin]

He's going to get a top 10 pick, though. It's kind of dangerous to give Mahomes a top 10 pick, isn't it?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think he. I feel like he already got away with robbery the last two drafts, getting Rice and Worthy where he did. So. Yeah. Them getting to pick a. That far up.

[Drew Franklin]

You with that pick could probably get Kelsey's replacement. Right. You could probably get the best tight end in the draft there. You would think.

[Matt Jones]

Yep.

[Drew Franklin]

Whoever that is, I don't know who.

[Matt Jones]

That is, but maybe they could even trade it and load up on some picks, try to keep the dynasty going.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Depending how they want to do it.

[Drew Franklin]

That's interesting. Do you think this was the last game with Travis and.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What do you have, 12 yards?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. It wasn't great though. Did you see the picture of him and Taylor with Clarissa Thompson and Aaron Andrews and their boyfriends?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. They're like best friends. They vacation together. It's like a.

[Drew Franklin]

The six of them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. It's a power triplet of couple.

[Drew Franklin]

I think they got to know each other because I would think Taylor Swift's like Way bigger than them, right? I guess maybe through. Through Travis Kelsey. I guess probably there was some story.

[Matt Jones]

Early on with them when for Travis even met Taylor on their podcast. They're really playing up. Taylor Swift needs to give him a chance. I guess they're Swifties. They were big on. I don't know if they actually want.

[Drew Franklin]

To be friends with someone. You were a big fan of before. Like, who's your favorite musical artist?

[Matt Jones]

Actually don't even have one right now. I change it. Lil Wayne.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe you want to. If you just got to vacation with Lil Wayne. Vacation tomorrow.

[Matt Jones]

Lil Wayne, I would love for you to go.

[Drew Franklin]

What would you and Lil Wayne do on vacation?

[Matt Jones]

I would just be like, Remember remembering Birdman Jr.

[Drew Franklin]

When you said, you can't do that. You can't just talk to him about. Remember when I liked you? Like, you have to be friends. You all have to talk.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we'll go to dinner.

[Drew Franklin]

What are you going to talk about?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. Probably the Carter 1 through 5. I could rank the Carters for him.

[Drew Franklin]

The Packers. He likes Kentucky basketball. Okay, so you'd have to talk to him about the Packers.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so I can't talk to him about rap is what you're saying. I can't ask.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think he wants your friendship. I think when you're friends with it, like, you don't sit here and you and I are friends. You don't sit here and ask me about Kentucky basketball. We talk about everything.

[Matt Jones]

I feel very genuine. I would probably be like, all right, Lil Wayne. Dwayne. His name's actually Dwayne. Dwayne Michael Carter.

[Drew Franklin]

What?

[Matt Jones]

I'm not ready for this moment. I think I'm starstruck. I would fumble my friendship with Lil Wayne.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it would be very hard. I mean, I've met my favorite artist multiple times, Tyler Childers. And it is hard because, like, you go up to him. He knows me, but we all. We only know of each other the thing that they're known for. And so, like, he'll be like, I know he wants to talk to me about Kentucky basketball, and I want to talk to him about, you know, follow you to virgin. But if you take those two points away, we have nothing to say to you because we don't know each other.

[Matt Jones]

You want to go too far in. He'll think you're a super fan, but you don't want to just act like nothing.

[Drew Franklin]

But I've now seen him multiple times, so I'll be like, I'll give it. We give Each other, the bro hug. But then we're out of things.

[Matt Jones]

Society. This reminds me of a great story, okay. I went on a bachelor party with my dear friends. It was in Atlanta. He's a big Braves guy. We're in Atlanta just doing bachelor party things. We're at a club, and I guess I can say the player's name because it doesn't matter. Jason Hayward's in there, okay? And this is when he's big star of the Braves, hadn't been traded yet. And I tell the manager with.

[Drew Franklin]

I remember that you've done.

[Matt Jones]

I was like, the bachelor over here loves the Braves. It's like die Hard. Like, he knows the Triple A roster, but he also specifically loves Jason Hayward. And I was like, is there any way I could bring my bachelor over to Jason Hayward just for a quick hello? And the manager's like, yeah, let's set this up. But like, he can't fanboy and be weird. Like, I'll tell Jason. You know, fans can be. Like, he can't be. You know. So I go up to. I won't say. The bachelor will say bachelor. And I was like, dude, you're gonna get to meet Hayward. Just play it cool, you know, don't be weird asking for selfies. He might get to hang around.

[Drew Franklin]

I swear.

[Matt Jones]

We walk up to Jason Hayward. I'm like, hey, Jason, this is my friend, the bachelor. And the bachelor goes, hey, man, what do you do for a living? Like, completely acted like he took don't be a fan into. I acted like he doesn't know who he was. And then Hayward's confused, like, I thought he knew who I was, and we just have this awkward standoff. So he went too cool and pretended he didn't even know who his favorite.

[Drew Franklin]

Don't. Don't. What do you do for a living?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, like, hey, man, who are you? What do you do? I was like, you went too far.

[Drew Franklin]

You're.

[Matt Jones]

You can acknowledge that he plays baseball. Don't. Super fan. But he went too far the other direction.

[Drew Franklin]

It is tough, though, because I. I would challenge you to think about. If you met your favorite person at something, but you couldn't talk to them about that. What would you say?

[Matt Jones]

Because that's how you know them and.

[Drew Franklin]

Why you're excited, right? I don't know Tyler Childers, because we both like Severance. I don't even know if you've seen. And it would be weird if I just went up to him and go, hey, did you watch Severance?

[Matt Jones]

Maybe that's what I'll Ask Lil Wayne about you Severance guy.

[Drew Franklin]

Pitt Season two is coming out.

[Matt Jones]

You want to go to the beach?

[Drew Franklin]

That would be weird if you want to go to the beach. All right. I don't know how we got off on that either, Wayne. NFC South. You predicted Billy last week. Yes, exactly what would happen. You said the Buccaneers would win, but then the Falcons would win the next day and knock them out. And that's exactly what happened.

[Billy]

It was a strange kind of depression. I found myself watching my two rivals, second and third strings battle it out and in order who. Who would win the division. I mean, it was. It was awful. I mean, losing eight of your last 10 games was awful enough. But both.

[Drew Franklin]

Then they got your hopes up.

[Billy]

Then they got my hopes up and they win. I mean, in that slop of a game on Saturday. And then I will never rely on the Saints ever again.

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[Drew Franklin]

And now the Panthers host a playoff game. Carolina Mike, if you had 150,000. That's right. He put out. I saw today after they. They won and after the Saints lost, he put out a video that was. He said a new verse and initially he just put the old song out again. I think he had uploaded the wrong video. So he just literally put his same song on again. Which I love.

[Matt Jones]

I know they've already brought him to the. To the stadium perform after it again. I mean full blown parking lot concert. Maybe he just does.

[Drew Franklin]

When he goes places. Over and over. I've wondered this about him. When he goes places and performs. If you don't know who he is, you have to think something like your world is messed up. Why is this middle aged man with glasses who is not talented.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, hey.

[Drew Franklin]

Talented.

[Matt Jones]

Just limited in his catalog. Only one song.

[Drew Franklin]

It is a banger.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He just needs to grow the collection.

[Drew Franklin]

If you like. If you just came up like if you were at a Panthers game and you did not know who he was, wouldn't you be like, what. What is happening right now? Why is this man performing?

[Matt Jones]

But he's already done it in the arena and got the applause.

[Drew Franklin]

But now people had to like I saw like next week he's performing at a White Forest basketball game. There is a really good chance that a huge portion of that crowd is not going to know who he is. Right. He just does it too.

[Matt Jones]

He just follows Red Panda around halftime venues. College basketball.

[Drew Franklin]

Like what. What percentage of the college students at Wake Forest do you think know who he is? It can't be that many.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of Panthers fans in there.

[Billy]

He's staying in state.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Keeping it in state.

[Drew Franklin]

If you said Virginia Tech.

[Matt Jones]

If you said Virginia Tech.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going for people.

[Matt Jones]

Virginia Tech.

[Drew Franklin]

Do not know who he is 1%. And then he gets out there. What are they just gonna be like, what. Who's dad?

[Matt Jones]

Just bob your head and wonder, how am I not a part of this? What did I miss that everyone else is enjoying this?

[Drew Franklin]

I kind of want to go to Winston Salem just to watch and to see what everybody does.

[Matt Jones]

We focus on him. But has anyone done a wellness check on Meow Mix? It's been very quiet.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh.

[Matt Jones]

Since the. Remember the players told him to stay. Stay dark, stay in your room, stay quiet.

[Drew Franklin]

And they hard on him.

[Matt Jones]

But they're in. I mean, the moment they stopped podcasting.

[Drew Franklin]

Is when literally the moment switch flipped. We're now we're good in the playoffs. Yeah. Are you. Would you blow it up if you're the fifth for your team?

[Matt Jones]

I would get rid of Baker.

[Billy]

No, no Baker.

[Matt Jones]

Stick Baker.

[Billy]

But everybody else, I think would. Would go. But I think the word is that they're going to keep him. That's what Schefter was saying this morning, is that the owners want to keep him. But, like, Dave Canales was our offensive coordinator. He takes the Panthers to the playoffs. Liam Cohen was our offensive coordinator, takes the Jags. It's tasting.

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[Matt Jones]

That just means you got more great coordinators.

[Billy]

Well, I mean, if you're known for defense and your defense was the worst in the league the last 10 weeks, I mean, you got to be held accountable. But probably the last game for Levante David and Mike Evans in Tampa make you sad.

[Drew Franklin]

Mike Evans is like, was a part of your childhood.

[Billy]

Those two are first ballot hall of Famers, no doubt. And to see them and like, how long they stayed on the field after the game and stuff was. Was really sad. So pour one out for them.

[Matt Jones]

Baker tricked me because he scored on the opening drive and they zoomed in and he's yelling, I'm him. And he's doing this. And I thought, did he bet? Is he back? Did he snap out of something? And then they didn't score another touchdown.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. By the way, the Vikings and Packers played the one o' clock games, and I don't think they ever put that game on red zone.

[Billy]

They actually didn't show a Packers offensive snap until they were about four minutes left on the red zone.

[Drew Franklin]

How do you know that?

[Billy]

Because Scott or Hansen made a.

[Drew Franklin]

He said it.

[Billy]

Yeah, he made a note about that.

[Drew Franklin]

I was watching in the airport and I was like, at one point they put it on and I go, I didn't know they were playing.

[Matt Jones]

Non got hurt again.

[Drew Franklin]

Who did?

[Matt Jones]

None. Your boy against all the players?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. He apologized, but they won. I think most of the players are like, we're good. We don't really care if you play or not.

[Matt Jones]

Well, his comments after it, he sounded sad, like he might not be back or at least that the guy. Well, whatever they do their decision, I hope to be here. But you know, kind of one of those.

[Drew Franklin]

He didn't. Wasn't speaking like a confident J.J. mcCarthy.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Wasn't talking like a confident.

[Drew Franklin]

Why would they not bring him back?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he would be on the team, but he was talking like a guy that doesn't know that he'll be the future.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, maybe he shouldn't be. I'd go get. I'd go get Davis. Mills. Mills.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah. You mentioned Scott Hansen. Did you all see his son off?

[Drew Franklin]

No. What'd he say?

[Matt Jones]

He was very emotional.

[Drew Franklin]

Why?

[Matt Jones]

This is kind of a new red zone to me here. I'm usually firing. No, he's. ESPN's keeping him. He got like, he seriously got like a lump in his throat. And I thought, does this happen every year? Am I sad? Is there something. I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

What's he sad about? I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

But it was in his sign off. It was like serious, very emotional. And I thought, is this happened every season?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think you should cry after every year.

[Matt Jones]

See, this is my first, you know, full red zone where I did the whole year with him. So it was my first sign off.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, listen, I. NFL, I'm essentially part of the league. I like Scott Hansen. I think he's good. But I miss the other guy.

[Billy]

Siciliano.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, his ears. I mean, I've been watching him for 15 years. He's great.

[Matt Jones]

15 years, big fan.

[Drew Franklin]

And I. I miss him. What's he doing now?

[Billy]

Like, he's on the Browns radio network.

[Matt Jones]

He's still around his own. I've seen him somewhere else.

[Drew Franklin]

He went from red zone to the Browns radio network?

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[Billy]

And I think he still does his NFL Network stuff.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I see him.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, so he's still on the NFL now. Yeah. Okay, good. Because I do like that guy. That guy was actually really funny.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe he wasn't getting emotional enough at sign offs.

[Billy]

Scott does take it serious with the whole don't go to the bathroom and he probably.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not making this up. He said, don't cry because it's over smile because it happened today. That's that was the sign off, but.

[Drew Franklin]

That seems like the kind of thing you would say if you were getting fired.

[Matt Jones]

Now I know it's changing hands, but we already knew that before this season. And they're keeping him like it's going espn but they already been talking about that. That's not new.

[Drew Franklin]

How would that be?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. But he was very. I'm worried about him, actually.

[Drew Franklin]

He was only on YouTube TV for two years.

[Matt Jones]

Go back and watch it. It makes you think like what is going on? Is this.

[Drew Franklin]

Is he okay?

[Billy]

Sad it's over.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, I'm sad.

[Matt Jones]

Don't cry that it's over. Smile that it happened.

[Drew Franklin]

But dude, you're like, you're going to be on TV Monday, probably somewhere.

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

All right then the four o' clock games, they had a lot of them. I was flying during a lot of these. But the Rams, they beat the Cardinals. Although the Cardinals kept it relatively close.

[Matt Jones]

They did most of the game. Stafford had another four touchdown game.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw Bill Simmons whining because he said that McVeigh was padding the stats for Stafford so he could win the mvp. Not noting that that the Drake May played the Patriots or she played the jets and the Dolphins the last two weeks. Who would you vote for by the way?

[Matt Jones]

He's so close.

[Drew Franklin]

Stafford is now the favorite. Did you see that like May was a big favorite going into today and at this moment Stafford is a small.

[Matt Jones]

Favorite for it because Stafford had another huge game. I didn't see it as running up though. It. I think it was like 23:20 in the fourth quarter. It was. The Cardinals were in it. So I know I don't believe they're pad maybe the last touchdown. But that that change much?

[Drew Franklin]

What if they did? So what? Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And so yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean it's not illegal to pad your stats. The Broncos win, Patriots win. So the Broncos will be the number one seed. The Raiders won. Now who has the number one pick?

[Billy]

The Raiders.

[Matt Jones]

They got to keep it because the Giants beat the Cowboys.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

So they going into today that you.

[Drew Franklin]

Know that Pete Carroll got hot?

[Matt Jones]

No, I do not.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Would you walk away if you're Pete Carroll go out on top beating the. Beating the defending AFC champs.

[Matt Jones]

Well you, you always, you always want to leave places better than you found it. He's walking. That's a big rivalry too.

[Drew Franklin]

What? Yeah. Defending AFC champs to be nasty. I mean they were the super bowl favorites coming the year so he could walk out and go look I beat the super bowl favorites. What do you want from me? I think he granted it was the third string quarterback but if he doesn't.

[Matt Jones]

Already have a cigar in his mouth right now about beating the Chiefs with his walk off. They gotta take it. Shane Bugle was the quarterback today of the Chiefs. I know that.

[Drew Franklin]

He used to coach the Cardinals or that was Joe Bugle.

[Matt Jones]

The reason I know Shane.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a person, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Look up, see if there was a guy named Joe Bugle. Anyway, go ahead. About Shane Bugle.

[Matt Jones]

The reason I know that is because he is. When I hit my breaking point. There were so many quarterbacks that I'd never heard of today. And then I just threw my arms in the air when Shane Buchle was in over Chris Ola, Duke and. Or whatever.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Am I right about Joe Bugle?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Coach.

[Drew Franklin]

He kind of looked like he probably smoked and played poker. Does he? Is that what he looks like?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Billy]

No, he does.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Doesn't he look like a guy who.

[Billy]

Offensive line coach played at Western Kentucky?

[Drew Franklin]

I think he also coached the Raiders, didn't he? Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Head coach, I believe of the Raiders.

[Billy]

And the Cardinals 95 and 96.

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Billy]

And Raiders had Coach in 97.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I said.

[Billy]

You were right.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, you act like you discovered new information.

[Matt Jones]

We landed on the move.

[Drew Franklin]

The Bears and the Eagles both had to win to be the 2 seat. Either one of the Bears played their starters, played awful for three, basically three quarters and then got really hot in the fourth quarter, nearly won the game. Should have gone for it on fourth down. Didn't lines end up winning? So it looks like they've lost a two seat. But then the Eagles chose not to play their starters and end up the three seat. Both teams lost, so it didn't matter. But I think the Eagles probably win if they play their starters. At least have a good chance. That was a mistake.

[Matt Jones]

Huge mistake. And if I'm an Eagles fan, I'm livid. It's the commanders with Josh Johnson at quarterback. Just play our guys, get a comfortable league, then bench him. But he rested. Barkley hurts most key starters. And you have losing a game you should never lost in the first place. And losing that number two seed. I can't believe he did that. They started Tanner McKee at quarterback from Stanford. Maybe.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. You were always wondering when you were gonna get that.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe Sirianni just listens to cover zero and thought, I got a Stanford quarterback right here. I'll just use him. But I can't believe he did that.

[Drew Franklin]

Tanner. But Tanner McKee played okay.

[Matt Jones]

He was all right, but. But you're. You tried to be smart and get one over, I think, didn't they? I think they had an injury in.

[Drew Franklin]

The last week, last, it was very predictable. The Bears could lose. I think they were the underdog because I think people thought they might not.

[Matt Jones]

Play like a point and a half or something like that.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

So why. I mean, to me, the packers, who the. Who you would play as a two seat, are a much better opponent for the Eagles than the 49ers, who they're going to play. I. I don't get this. I feel like Sirianni deserves a lot of questioning about it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. If I'm an Eagles fan, I'm looking at today and what we need to do and like, okay, Bears got the Lions. We have the commanders. We have a great draw. Let's finish this off. And then I'm watching at home. Then I'm watching Tank Bigsby and Tanner McKee on my team. That I think is a contender. Yeah, I'm livid.

[Drew Franklin]

I think I don't know this for sure. I think Tank Bigsby has played in the NFL since 1991.

[Matt Jones]

Since 91. Billy.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like he's been. Hasn't that a name? First of all, his name's Tank. That seems like a running back from the early 90s. How long's tank Bigsby been in the league?

[Billy]

I think he went to Auburn, but I'm looking.

[Matt Jones]

He's Auburn, but I don't know how long.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why I think he's. Because I heard him when he was.

[Matt Jones]

At Auburn and Auburn with their tanks and their Cadillac.

[Billy]

So he was drafted in 2023 in the third round. So he's played for the Jags and the Eagles.

[Matt Jones]

So you mean he was born in 1991. I think that's what you were trying to say, 2001. You know, all these numbers run together.

[Drew Franklin]

These parents met in 1991 is what I was thinking. Yeah, that was it. I think that's what I mean. Then Saturday night Seahawks beat the 49ers to get the 1 seed. Seahawks are the super bowl favorites by the odds. Does that seem right?

[Matt Jones]

I now that they have the one seed in the buy, obviously that gives them the edge. But their defense off also answered a big question. 49ers have a great offense. They went in there and almost shut them out. Held them to three points in a game with seating on the line. So we already know Darnold's having a good year and that offense has been great. But that defense holding them to three was a big statement to me. So I agree with it.

[Drew Franklin]

So on my ESPN show, Myron goes, I'm going on record Seahawks over the Jags in the Super Bowl. And I started laughing. I was like, are you crazy? That's the most ridiculous thing. And then I realized the Seahawks are the 1 seed. The Jags are 3. It's not crazy at all. But that sounds like a ludicrous super bowl that, like, Chat GPT would come up with.

[Matt Jones]

If you said that before, that you think you're crazy. Sam Darnold, that Minnesota just got rid of.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Versus Trevor Lawrence, Liam Cohen.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, you know, the. Just as I said, the. The Seahawks defense had that big statement. The Jags going to beating the Broncos in Denver two weeks ago was a big statement, too. So I don't think it's crazy at all.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you ever see when these graphics get put up, Chat GPT predicts the next 75 NFL champs or whatever? Yeah, I saw one the other day. It was chat GPD does the next 75 NFL champions, and it had in 2053, a grocery store winning.

[Matt Jones]

Which one?

[Drew Franklin]

It was literally, like, Harris Teeter. And then it was all NFL.

[Matt Jones]

I got money on Kroger.

[Drew Franklin]

It was all NFL teams. And then, like, 2053 was Harris Teeter. And then, like, 2062 was Kiss the Band expansion.

[Matt Jones]

AI still has its flaws.

[Drew Franklin]

And that's where I was like, you know what? Why do we. Our entire economy. For people who don't follow the economy, our entire stock market is propped up on the idea that AI is going to be big. But when they pick a grocery store to win the NFL championship, I'm questioning the information I get off of there.

[Matt Jones]

I just saw one of these last week, too. Had the Titans winning in five years. That might be crazier than the grocery store.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And then I saw one with the NBA, and it was like, the next 75 years, and it was 74 NBA teams. And then it. And then the Cincinnati Reds. Congrats.

[Matt Jones]

Well, it's like when people edit a photo and you're like, wow, that looks real. And then you're like, wait a minute. Why do they have eight fingers? It's like the AI isn't just quite there to perfect it yet. You're still getting the Harris Teeter super bowl pick.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like. I feel like you got to be careful about those. The Chat GPT, you know, champions. Because I fall for them. Because I'll see it say, Kentucky's gonna win the basketball title in, like, 2031. And I'm like, oh, man, they already know our class. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Robots, they know.

[Drew Franklin]

Then when I Saw Harris Teeter was winning the NFL or.

[Matt Jones]

What do we not know about Harris Teeter? Is it that the AI is wrong or is that we just can't wrap our minds around what Harris Teeter could be working on?

[Drew Franklin]

Have you ever been to. Have you ever been to a Harris Teeter?

[Matt Jones]

I have not. I've not.

[Drew Franklin]

That's like the North Carolina.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that. Then they're in Tennessee as well. I've seen them. Just had the pleasure.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the North Carolina one. Yeah. So right here. Here's one. This is chat GBD picks. Now. This isn't the one I saw earlier. The next 50 Super Bowls they have in 2068, the London England Monarchs.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, did they create.

[Drew Franklin]

So they are creating an international team, naming it and predicting it will win the Super Bowl.

[Matt Jones]

That's pretty crazy.

[Billy]

There'll be a team in London.

[Matt Jones]

I tell you what, if in like five years, they announced a team called the London Monarchs, I'm running and making a bet for Super Bowl 2068. Even just getting the name right would be impressive.

[Drew Franklin]

It would be very impressive. All right, so playoffs. Now they announced the schedule. One of the things this is. This tells you how I've listened to Bill Simmons too much over the years. He has for as long as I've known. There's apparently a pizza place in Los Angeles that is really bad. That he and his friends always get together and watch the first Saturday NFL playoff game every year. All right. Because it's usually the worst one. And they call it the Shakey's game because Shakey's pizza is apparently bad. I've thought about that a lot over the years because I wonder if Shaky's Pizza, you think they like that publicity? Because it's not like he ignot. He says they go there because it's so bad.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, maybe they look forward to that day. They. They double their staff.

[Drew Franklin]

But I think if I go to la, I haven't been in a lot. There's a part of me that would want to go see because I know people have to go there to see is it as bad as everybody says? And chances are, look up. Look up Billy Shaky's pizza in la. Because I'm going to bet you there are reviews that say not as bad as Bill Simmons makes it out to be.

[Matt Jones]

It has to be good enough to at least keep the lights on so someone's eating there, even if it's only a couple people a week.

[Drew Franklin]

I've also wondered since they talk about it every year and you know, when it is don't you think Bill Simmons fans like Jimmy Kimmel goes, yeah, you'd.

[Matt Jones]

Think there'd be a line out the door.

[Drew Franklin]

You'd think there would be people that.

[Matt Jones]

Go like people could just think I'm going to create my own watch party with this podcast.

[Drew Franklin]

Go hang out with these guys that I like. So I've, I've often wondered how that would work. What are their reviews like? Shakey's pizza.

[Billy]

It's a 4.1 out of 5 on Yelp and the first person said I've been coming to Shakey's for over 20 years and it never disappoints. The food and the service are always bomb.

[Matt Jones]

It's got me craving Shaggy's pizza.

[Billy]

Thin crust pizza Mojos and chicken always hit the spot.

[Drew Franklin]

That sound good?

[Matt Jones]

Well next year we don't go to Buffalo. We ask our bosses if the take us to Shakies.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah well this year the Shakies game is what Bill Simmons always calls it. He predicted it would be whoever won the NFC South. He was correct. It was the it's the Rams and the Panthers. We'll, we'll preview these more on Wednesday. But your early thoughts.

[Matt Jones]

First of all I want to congratulate the Texans. The Texans have been a wild card team eight times and have played the 4:30 Saturday game eight times. This is the first time in their history that they are in wild card weekend and not the first 4:30 Saturday game. Yeah so it took took a ninth trip to the playoffs. But congrats on the Texans for not getting this one. But I'm gonna agree with the shaky's crew. It was a lock to get the Panthers. I know they're excited that they won. We're excited for a guy Carolina Mike be this this was a lock and not should be the Rams in a route and we won't give away our picks but this this deserved the 430 spot.

[Billy]

The Rams just lost to Carolina a.

[Drew Franklin]

Couple weeks ago but I think that's more likely they win. Yeah like I well I'm not gonna give my pick away but I'm gonna bet a lot of money on them.

[Matt Jones]

I think on this one we can maybe lean to let people know we're.

[Drew Franklin]

Gonna be at the Rams.

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Matt Jones]

We just got this twice in the last couple weeks. Didn't disappoint. Ready for round three. The question is how excited are you being your team with real chance here. Even though Bears back to back games.

[Drew Franklin]

Two and five again against the packers in the playoffs historically. But we did beat him twice this year. Hard to be the team three times. That's what everybody always says. I don't think that's true.

[Matt Jones]

Are you worried you're limping in lost the last two games.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't care about today. Yeah, no. I mean but could have won them both. Like they both came down the final. I mean the Bears every game this year is coming down the final play. I don't know. You have to tell me how. How healthy Jordan Love is going to be. I mean if he's going to be healthy. I think they're probably.

[Matt Jones]

We should.

[Drew Franklin]

We could have lost both those games to the Packers. So I'm probably. I'm a little nervous about it but I. To me this is all. You're playing with house money here. Like I don't expect us to do anything. Being the 2 seat is crazy.

[Matt Jones]

What does a Matt Jones viewing experience look like here? You throwing a jersey? Do you watch it?

[Drew Franklin]

He's playing during the game.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, it's a night game, isn't it?

[Drew Franklin]

It's at 8. Kentucky plays at 8:30 and the Bears play at 8. I mean I've run into this in.

[Matt Jones]

The past with the Titans in a Saturday game. It's the worst. It's the one downside on cable.

[Drew Franklin]

One of them's on streaming so I can't.

[Matt Jones]

Can't do the box.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm have to like literally restart my television to flip from one game to the other. So I guess I'll watch the Bears on my phone.

[Matt Jones]

Poor timing there.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. So I don't like it. But that's Amazon prime. So there are some whispers this could be Al Michael's last. Oh, hopefully good one to go out on though if you were him. Right. I feel like he should be part of that Travis Kelsey friend group. If the fourth couple was just him.

[Matt Jones]

And his wife skiing in the Aspen ski trip together. They're all in the hot tub. Al Michaels, Travis Kelsey. What are the date like a hockey player? I think.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Who are the other two guys?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they're just two random hands and once a hockey player. Aaron Andrews is married to NHL.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. We have a friend who used to date Aaron. What if he was part of that? Like what if he had become a.

[Matt Jones]

Hot tub without Michael.

[Drew Franklin]

No, but I mean, like, we. You and I have a very good friend that dated Aaron Andrews for a long time. And like, what if. What if he was like Taylor's bestie? Oh, that's crazy.

[Matt Jones]

We could be getting all the NFL scoop on Trav.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe we could have met her.

[Matt Jones]

We could have gotten in the hot tub without Michael. I'll be in there. Would help our chances, I think because.

[Drew Franklin]

They let anybody in. Bill's Jags are the early game on. On Sunday. I do think. I think that's all. The Bills are favored, which is kind of crazy because objectively, the Jaguars have been a much better team. But who wants to bet against Josh Allen with Trevor Lawrence, I could see any result in that game. You know what I mean? I could see either team blowing the other one out.

[Matt Jones]

And it just feels weird that this like Jacksonville gets playoff. I know they've been awesome. They deserve it. But just seeing Josh Allen's path goes through Jacksonville just doesn't feel right.

[Drew Franklin]

What if I told you that to go to the Super Bowl, Josh Allen might have to beat Trevor Lawrence and two second year quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

That's crazy. It's all deserved and we saw it all season. But I'm just putting myself in September.

[Drew Franklin]

It's also Josh Allen versus Josh Allen.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. Made him change his name. Another reason for this. But we thought going for the year at least I thought this is the year he finally gets over the hump. Just him having to play at the. At the hot tub stadium in the first step.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, did you see that hot tub today?

[Matt Jones]

They're excited.

[Drew Franklin]

People just not.

[Matt Jones]

Not people pee. There was just pee all in there.

[Drew Franklin]

And then there's. Do you think they don't allow bikinis? All the. All the swimsuits are one pieces.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you think it's a one piece rule?

[Drew Franklin]

I actually do. Because like, you don't want to get.

[Matt Jones]

Too scantily clad in there.

[Drew Franklin]

You also don't see one pieces a lot in life anymore. But that's. That's. That. That's all that's in now that pool. I think there's a one piece rule.

[Matt Jones]

They don't want to trash it up with some.

[Drew Franklin]

Is there one? Are you looking it up?

[Billy]

I'm gonna try to find the rules.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but I don't have it here. Is there a one just getting tested before you get in? I think that should be the rule.

[Drew Franklin]

There was also a guy in a lucha libre mask.

[Matt Jones]

He was also wearing one. No, I didn't see the mask?

[Drew Franklin]

No, there's a guy wearing like a lucha libre mask and a T shirt.

[Matt Jones]

That's just because he doesn't want his family to know he got in the hot tub at a Jags game. He didn't want to get Coldplayed on tv.

[Drew Franklin]

That was a great picture of the Jacksonville pool today.

[Matt Jones]

I saw a bunch of people in there. I did not see the mask.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, and he was sitting back just like enjoying it, telling you he did.

[Matt Jones]

Not want people to know he was in there. He bought a single ticket, left his family and kids at home and went and got in the Jags pool because he's so excited. Might have been Mark Brunel.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it was. You think it was? Yeah. Look at this. See, look, there's the guy right there. He's just sitting there in his. With the lucha libre mask.

[Matt Jones]

That's a man with a job, two.

[Drew Franklin]

Children in front of him.

[Matt Jones]

Well, he definitely didn't want to be on TV knowing he took his kids there.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you can't take your kids there. But look, it's like one pieces. There's a child that has a lifeguard thing on. He can't be the lifeguard. That kid is too young. And then a man is just sitting back with his reliever and a shirt on.

[Matt Jones]

Anybody have have a grill in? Billy said everybody in Jacksonville has grills. How many grills are in the photo?

[Drew Franklin]

So gross. Anyway, that game's at 1 o'. Clock.

[Billy]

Did you see what Buffalo Josh Allen did today to keep his consecutive starting streak? He did one snap. He did a handoff.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I can't get too upset about that. I mean, Cal Ripken used to do that when he was breaking the baseball streak. He had a couple of games.

[Matt Jones]

He just came back a power outage for him.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, because of Kevin Costner, by the way, your old.

[Matt Jones]

Your old quarterback.

[Drew Franklin]

True.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think your old Bears quarterback look great. Plays Josh Allen. Trubisky at four touchdowns.

[Drew Franklin]

He plays well, though. He always plays. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It's another reason watching Trubisky versus Brady Cook on my TV today didn't feel right.

[Drew Franklin]

The 4:30 game is 49ers and Eagles. That's a good game, right?

[Matt Jones]

It's Sirianni going to play Hertz and Barkley and the Crew are going to.

[Drew Franklin]

Take the rest of the first half for the second half.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's a great person. I'm not an Eagles believer. I said that last week before choked and benched everybody.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm picking the Eagles in that game, though. The 49ers have no offense.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's your original Week 1 cover 0 pick is that they'd have a great record and not doing in the playoffs. So this big moment for you coming up too.

[Drew Franklin]

That's exactly right. Then the night game is Chargers.

[Matt Jones]

Chargers. Yep. Chargers at Pat.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to go ahead and pick the Chargers. Put me down.

[Matt Jones]

You know what?

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't know you were going to.

[Matt Jones]

Do this, but when the schedule came out, I considered it. I'm going to let you have it. But it popped in my head that could be upset special.

[Drew Franklin]

I just think the Chargers weakness has been their offensive line. But the Patriots have not done a great job getting to the passers. So I think that's okay. And Drake May is really good, but I don't know, I just feel like I think the Patriots had such an easy schedule. So I mean it's. It's got to catch up to him at some point.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they just play off and the.

[Drew Franklin]

Charges clearly wanted to play him because they didn't try to move up. They wanted the Patriots.

[Matt Jones]

They want the smoke.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

This. It's just too wide open this year. I think we're going to get a good upset and that could be the one to do it. I think one of these top seeds is going out their first game.

[Drew Franklin]

Chris Collinsworth, by the way, apparently signed off tonight. Going like all great movies you attend, it catches you off guard. But this is about as much fun as I've had watching a football game in a long time. The quote doesn't make a lot of sense. First of all, when I go to a great movie, I usually expect it to be pretty good.

[Matt Jones]

That's why I went.

[Drew Franklin]

It didn't catch me as off guard.

[Matt Jones]

Like I saw the trailer.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, I mean, I want to go see one battle after another. I think it's going to be good.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I got that downloaded on my iPad.

[Drew Franklin]

It's going to catch me off guard if it's not good. And then he goes and plus, didn't everybody think Raven Steelers was going to be good? It was better than we thought. But like it didn't catch me off guard. I was like expecting this can be a great game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. When I woke up this morning, I was the one I was most excited about.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. So I don't really understand that one. He also said at the end the gods wanted Aaron Rodgers to play again.

[Matt Jones]

The gods hate Tyler Loop is what he's saying.

[Drew Franklin]

See, now you've gotten a pet peeve of mine.

[Matt Jones]

What's that?

[Drew Franklin]

When people in a situation where there's a winner and a loser and when people like players or athletes say, God was with us tonight, I always want to go, do you think God hates the other team?

[Matt Jones]

You're implying he was not over there.

[Drew Franklin]

You think God is like Tyler Loop, I'm going to make your life miserable for the next. I don't know. Ask Scott Norwood how it goes when you miss these kicks.

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[Drew Franklin]

So, like, if God. I would say to Chris Collinsworth, if God wants Aaron Rodgers to win, what about Lamar? He prays.

[Matt Jones]

Thanks God often, actually, yeah, God's not like me.

[Drew Franklin]

I bet he thinks God more than Aaron Rodgers.

[Matt Jones]

God's not like me. In his recliner at noon trying to pick a side in all these games before 1 o'. Clock. You know, he likes both.

[Billy]

What's the spread?

[Drew Franklin]

That's a great point. God just sits there and goes, let's just play today. Blessed today, point and a half.

[Matt Jones]

He watches the shows and gets the fantasy lineups. And then Pixes said, let's see.

[Drew Franklin]

Should I bless Lamar Jackson, a wonderful young man who has delighted thousands, or Aaron Rodgers? I won't even go further with what he could say. All right, we'll go to the final game. Aaron Rodgers will play against the Texans. They go from Saturday afternoon to Monday night.

[Matt Jones]

Good job, Texans. What a turnaround.

[Drew Franklin]

Who do you like?

[Matt Jones]

Proud of you. I thought the Steelers would beat the Ravens to get into this. I'm worried they're going to run out of gas.

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[Matt Jones]

This should be a good matchup, though. It's just surprising to even see the Texans here at all and really starting the year. Surprised with the Steelers too. This one will be of all the line, all the matchups, I think this could be one of the better ones, which is why it gets the denied to itself.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree. I think it'll be really good. Did you find out the rules about the pool?

[Billy]

Not the rules, but if you want a pool, it starts at 17 grand.

[Matt Jones]

And you get what?

[Billy]

You get 35 tickets, you get your own personal cabana, you get up to 50.

[Matt Jones]

So there are multiple pools.

[Drew Franklin]

I thought there was just one pool.

[Billy]

No, it's just the one.

[Drew Franklin]

And it costs $35,000.

[Billy]

17 grand is what it starts and.

[Drew Franklin]

You get 35 tickets.

[Matt Jones]

That actually answered a question for me. So we're seeing these people. They're all part of a group. I thought you could get like a single and you're in there with strangers. It could be any walk of life that you're swimming with.

[Drew Franklin]

So that means the lucha libre guy. See, I thought he bought one, and then, like, that family was there and he just got in the pool.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if I'm more concerned that he knows them or that eases my concerns that he knows them. So I really guess I really want.

[Billy]

To go to a job.

[Drew Franklin]

We're not going to do it next year.

[Matt Jones]

No. I'm going to treat you all. We're going to. I'm going to get the poll tickets.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. So gross.

[Matt Jones]

Bill, you get the mask.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, so let me warn you about what we're going to do on the midweek podcast. Are you gonna be able to be there or. No.

[Matt Jones]

Remotely. Yeah, I'm on vacation, taking my mic.

[Drew Franklin]

We're going to. We're going to do a touchdown pick in every game. And we won't even do it by position. You can pick anybody. But we'll draft. So, like, one game. Drew will go first, then Billy to me. Next game will be Billy first, then me, then you. But we'll do all six games, and we will each have six touchdown picks.

[Billy]

All right. I like it.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you like it? Because I. I guess you and I tied in the regular season. Yeah. At five. And he had four. So we'll keep it going then through the playoffs, but we'll have more. You'll have more options to score. Do you like that?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And we'll lock in and fill out our brackets, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Let me ask you. I can't remember, the NFL used to do it where in the second round, the higher seed would always play the lowest seed. They still do that?

[Matt Jones]

Every seed?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Recede.

[Drew Franklin]

Recede. Every round. Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so Denver and Seattle will get the. The worst team.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you like that?

[Matt Jones]

I do. In some sports, I like the Cinderella aspect, obviously, March Madness, but NFL, give me. Give me the best teams in the best scenario.

[Drew Franklin]

But I would say, though, in all honesty, if I were to look at this thing, how many teams in the playoffs do we think have zero chance to win the Super Bowl? All right. I think Pittsburgh has zero chance to win the Super Bowl. Carolina, I think Carolina has zero chance to win the Super Bowl. I think an argument can be made that maybe for the first time that I can ever remember, you could make a case. For the other 12, I think the Chargers would be unlikely, so let's just go to 11. But I genuinely think 11 teams could win the super bowl, and I'm not sure that that's ever been true. Do you agree with that?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I completely agree. The top of the line. No One is truly like elite. Elite. Elite. Most years there's a team where, you know, somebody's have to knock them off. We don't have that this year. And then what are you just looking at the seating? Your six seeds are what, the. The bills and the 49ers are your six seeds? Yeah. I mean.

[Drew Franklin]

Or no, no. The Bills and the rams or. No. 49ers. Bills and the 49ers.

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[Matt Jones]

I mean, those. That's.

[Drew Franklin]

That's pretty good.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's. That's some contenders that barely got in as a wild card.

[Drew Franklin]

11 teams could win the Super Bowl.

[Billy]

I would.

[Drew Franklin]

That's amazing. So it's going to be arguably the most open playoff of all time. There's not one team in the playoffs that I think is guaranteed to win their first game.

[Matt Jones]

Fully agree. I mean, we were just talking.

[Drew Franklin]

Even the pants. The Rams, to me, have the best chance. But the Panthers beat the Rams just a couple weeks ago.

[Matt Jones]

Two weeks ago.

[Drew Franklin]

So it's wide open.

[Matt Jones]

That's why I'm so looking forward to it. It's gonna be hard to predict.

[Billy]

And Monday is black Monday. We saw Raheem Morris get this.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, that'll probably be what we'll do with midweek. She's talking about who got fired. Raheem Morris likely.

[Billy]

Now he's out. So is the gm.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe the Tides will keep kind of.

[Drew Franklin]

Coin people on the edge of the seat for Wednesday. And we don't want to give away our spoiler alert. Ray Morris is fired. I got a spoiler. By the way, today I'm pretty upset about an article about one of the. You know, there's a hockey show where, like, everybody kisses, you know. There's.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Drew Franklin]

I haven't seen it. I just know that it's called, like, heated rivalry. No, it's a real show.

[Matt Jones]

I thought you were saying like a hockey pregame show. Said kissing.

[Drew Franklin]

It was Hurricanes, Red Wings.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, let's check that out.

[Drew Franklin]

Just kissing.

[Matt Jones]

I fro pictured four people at a.

[Drew Franklin]

Table on the Icerman and I don't even know if Steve.

[Matt Jones]

I'm watching the wrong shows.

[Drew Franklin]

No, there's a show. Have you not heard about this show?

[Matt Jones]

No, I haven't.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I won't go into the details. It's very popular on with. With women.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

And one of the main characters on the show, he was being profiled in New York magazine. You know, I'm like the last person in the world still reads hard copy magazines. Very excited. Have my New York magazine was going to read on the plane first Stories is a profile of this gay. This guy on the hockey show with Steve Yzerman. Right. So he. He in it. They say he got his start and one of his big breaks was Joker Part two. Okay, that just came out a year or two ago. I have not seen that yet. I Love Joker Part 1. Haven't seen it. They say in the article he got his break playing the guy who killed Joker at the end of Joker Part 2. Spoiler what? It. I know the article did it. Spoiled it for me.

[Matt Jones]

They gotta warn you. I had no idea.

[Billy]

For us.

[Drew Franklin]

Wait a minute. Did you all never see Joker Part two?

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Have you all seen Joker one?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Well, I heard it was bad. That's why I didn't watch it.

[Drew Franklin]

But I mean, we've all. That's an interesting thing. Did you all like Joker?

[Matt Jones]

I loved it.

[Billy]

I did.

[Drew Franklin]

I thought it was great. And yet not one of us decided to see Joker Part 2. Isn't that weird?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I remember the reviews were terrible. And I hate when I have something I like. They try to redo it or make a sequel.

[Billy]

It was a musical.

[Drew Franklin]

Is it?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I like musicals.

[Billy]

Musicals, they're hit or miss.

[Matt Jones]

Gaga big in it.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, by the way, he dies at the end.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Billy]

Didn't know the joke.

[Drew Franklin]

And this other guy from the hockey show, apparently they're kissing where they kiss. He kills him and like, then says.

[Matt Jones]

He'S the joke Joker on the hockey kissing show.

[Drew Franklin]

And that's Joker 3. Anyway, the point was it spoiled the.

[Matt Jones]

Movie for me, just like an offhanded comment.

[Drew Franklin]

And I've now spoiled it for all the rest of you.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you also spoiled stranger things on the show too.

[Drew Franklin]

Did I?

[Billy]

We put a spoiler alert on that show.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Well, did we really?

[Matt Jones]

And on Wednesday.

[Drew Franklin]

Coming up.

[Matt Jones]

Wednesday, we'll spoil who wins the Super Bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

Exactly right. Enjoy your vacation, by the way. Thank you. I'll talk to y' all Wednesday and see you later. This has been NFL Cover Zero. NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

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