NFL Cover Zero: Impactful Injuries and Remaining Schedules

Summary

NFL Cover Zero: Impactful Injuries and Remaining Schedules

Podcast: KSR
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Billy R Sports
Episode Date: December 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of NFL Cover Zero features Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, and Billy R Sports breaking down a thrilling Week 15 in the NFL. The crew analyzes wild comebacks, devastating injuries, playoff implications, and standout performances. Highlights include debates over the most powerful woman in the world, the emergence of unlikely quarterback heroes, and how impactful injuries will shape the playoff landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Week 15 Recap: Exciting Comebacks & Family Football Watching

[02:09-06:09]

• The crew jokes about watching football at their parents' homes with uncomfortably high winter temperatures and ultra-early dinners, using these stories as light-hearted intro before diving into the football slate.
• “The colder it gets outside, the higher my parents turn the temperature up… It's like a reverse world.” – Drew Franklin [03:07]

2. Game Analysis: Bills vs. Patriots

[06:09-10:06]

• Patriots jumped out to a 21-0 lead, only to see the Bills mount another furious comeback, led by Josh Allen.
• “You saw why in the second half. The Patriots offense died… It was really all aspects of the game. The Bills flipped a switch.” – Matt Jones [07:53]
• Playoff implications: Bills look like a dangerous potential wild card, Patriots still control the division but need to finish strong.
• Discussion on tiebreakers and remaining schedules for AFC playoff contenders.

3. Impactful Injuries: Chiefs, Mahomes, and AFC Picture

[10:06-11:56]

• The Chiefs are mathematically eliminated after losing—and losing Patrick Mahomes to an ACL late in a meaningless play.
• “Even the biggest Chiefs hater… you can't win. Pat Mahomes tears an ACL at the very end of the game.” – Matt Jones [10:56]
• The injury removes the ability for rivals to mock the Chiefs: “You can’t really mock them now that he’s hurt.” – Drew Franklin [10:45]

4. The Backup Quarterback Carousel & Gardner Minshew

[11:41-12:31]

• The panel reminisces about backup QB Gardner Minshew’s value and his classic Chris Berman nickname “Gardner Me-Me-Minshew” [12:15].
• Humorous acknowledgment of Minshew’s journeyman reputation.

5. Travis Kelce & “First Man” Debate: Power, Celebrity, and Taylor Swift

[16:27-22:31]

• Is Travis Kelce retiring? The hosts pivot to his off-field stature as “First Man of Pop.”
• Hilarious debate: “Who is more of a first man than him?” – Drew Franklin [16:52]
• Taylor Swift and the Forbes Most Powerful Women list enter the discussion. “She has more power… over all these people.” – Matt Jones [17:36]
• Suggestion that Kelce could enter music post-retirement, riffing on other NFL personalities attempting (and failing at) rap careers.

6. Chargers, Justin Herbert, and the Mystery of L.A. Football Fandom

[22:31-24:39]

• Chargers and Justin Herbert’s historic pace get ignored, even as the team wins: “I've never met a Chargers fan ever.” – Drew Franklin [23:58]
• “They can do everything right... maybe they'll get a Super Bowl this year and no one will care.” – Matt Jones [23:44]

7. The Return of Philip Rivers: Fat(ish) QB Appreciation & Poetic Endings

[24:39-32:36]

• Rivers' comeback with the Colts is dissected: the physical decline (“He looked like a high school coach whose New Year’s resolution is to get back in the gym” – Drew Franklin [25:36]) and the charm of a “regular guy” moment.
• Rivers delivers a touching locker-room speech:
  “Sometimes you… The guaranteed safe bet is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot. Let's see what happens, you know, and so, yeah, I hope that in that sense that it can be a positive.” – Philip Rivers (paraphrased by Matt, [29:20])
• Universal lesson: “You have to have the courage to go out there and fail.” – Drew Franklin [30:10]
• The crew debates whether Rivers should quit while he’s (sort of) ahead.
• Revel in Rivers’ wholesome traditions: “He doesn’t cuss, but he’s a big trash guy.” – Billy R [33:01]

8. Cold Weather Football: Bengals-Ravens & Subzero Antics

[37:46-41:49]

• Bengals get shut out in historically cold weather.
• Discussion on tough-guy antics (like shirtless, barefoot players): “You’re just trying too hard. No one believes you.” – Matt Jones [39:02]
• Referees in the cold, headwear traditions, and the unglamorous fate of sideline camera operators.

9. Joe Burrow, Team Discord, and Retirement Speculation

[41:49-43:16]

• Reporter asks Burrow whether he himself is “slipping”; noteworthy for its bluntness.
• Andrew Luck comparisons: “No one quits voluntarily. They quit because they’re not good anymore.” – Drew Franklin [43:10]
• Bengals’ organizational malaise highlighted.

10. More Big Performances & Coach of the Year Race

[43:21-46:01]

• Trevor Lawrence’s historic day (six TDs) against the Jets [43:23-43:55].
• "First ever in NFL history to do that." – Billy R [43:26]
• Quick run down of Coach of the Year front-runners (Vrabel, McDonald, Cohen, Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Sean Payton).

11. AFC South Explosion: Texans, Jaguars, Colts

[46:01-47:02]

• Houston, Jacksonville, and Indianapolis all in playoff contention: “The AFC South has three playoff contenders; who saw that coming?” – Drew Franklin [46:44]

12. Big Injuries and Super Bowl Contenders

[47:55-49:47]

• Major injuries: Micah Parsons and Mahomes both out for the year.
• “To lose him and Mahomes in the same day is just… that stuff.” – Drew Franklin [49:33]
• Broncos and Bo Nix’s credibility as contenders discussed.

13. NFC North Drama: Bears, Packers, Lions

[54:50-57:58]

• Bears dominate in cold but have a tough remaining schedule.
• Caleb Williams’ impressive INT stats; “Wouldn’t have believed it…” – Matt Jones [54:50]
• Division could come down to Bears-Lions in Week 18; “I would say it’s the biggest game in the history of organized sports.” – Drew Franklin [56:59]

14. The Shador Sanders & QB Carousel in Cleveland

[57:58-59:39]

• Shador's struggles: “Those interceptions today… were bad.” – Matt Jones [58:00]
• Uncertainty at Browns QB; likely drafting another next year.

15. NFC South: Panthers, Bucs, & Shuck Magic

[59:47-63:17]

• Tyler Shuck’s emergence at Carolina: "He's got a few pieces of flair." – Matt Jones [62:24]
• Buccaneers' locker room “turmoil” after a promising start; “It's falling apart.” – Billy R [63:33]

16. MVP and Playoff Race: Rams, Lions

[65:02-66:37]

• Stafford making his MVP case after a big win vs. Detroit.
• “I still think that's the most likely Super Bowl today: Rams-Bills.” – Drew Franklin [66:11]

17. Play-by-Play Prep & Broadcasting Anxiety

[67:04-74:27]

• Drew shares his nerves about calling his first-ever football game on national radio next week.
• Introspective on play-calling styles: “I may go for a more minimalist, simplistic… My home's under center, snapped, pass, 4 yards.” – Drew Franklin [71:18]
• Support from Matt and Billy, with much locker room banter and advice.

18. Touchdown Parlay and Survivor Pool Updates

[76:33-77:05]

• Quick review of the crew’s touchdown battle (“Matt five, five, three…”), survivor picks, and plans for playoff coverage.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You have to have the courage to go out there and fail.” – Drew Franklin [30:10]
• “I've never met a Chargers fan ever.” – Drew Franklin [23:58]
• "Even the biggest Chiefs hater... you can't win. Pat Mahomes tears an ACL at the very end of the game." – Matt Jones [10:56]
• “Who is more of a first man than [Travis Kelce]?” – Drew Franklin [16:52]
• "This is like the royal wedding." – Matt Jones on Kelce and Taylor Swift [16:51]
• “A grandfather threw a touchdown pass today in the NFL. That was outrageous.” – Matt Jones [32:13]
• “Would you do nothing? I would be whatever tour [Taylor Swift’s] on.” – Matt Jones [20:31]
• “It'd be a massive win for the franchise... I would say it’s the biggest game in the history of organized sports.” – Drew Franklin on Bears-Packers [56:59]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:09] – Start of NFL Week 15 recap, family football traditions
• [06:09] – Bills-Patriots analysis
• [10:06] – Impact of Mahomes’ ACL injury
• [16:27] – Kelce, Taylor Swift and the power-couple/retirement debate
• [24:39] – Philip Rivers’ improbable NFL return
• [37:46] – Bengals-Ravens cold-weather shutout
• [41:49] – Joe Burrow “slipping” reporter question
• [43:21] – Trevor Lawrence’s 6 TD game
• [47:55] – Discussion about injuries derailing contenders
• [54:50] – Bears dominance and playoff scenarios
• [65:02] – Stafford-MVP, Rams as Super Bowl favorites
• [67:04] – Drew’s play-by-play preparation, broadcasting segment
• [76:33] – Survivor and parlay competition updates, show wrap-up

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Tone and Style Notes

• The hosts blend deep NFL analysis with irreverent, relatable banter and pop-culture tangents.
• Frequent humor, personal anecdotes, and good-natured ribbing help the podcast feel accessible and authentic, while providing listeners with genuine football insights.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

This episode offers a tour-de-force of NFL Week 15, exploring not just the stats and standings, but what’s felt by fans, players, and the media. You’ll find hard-hitting football talk—about big comebacks, playoff scenarios, the devastating injuries of Mahomes and Parsons as they send shockwaves through the NFL—alongside debates over retiring legends, music careers, and why nobody knows a real Chargers fan. The crew also peels back the curtain for a rare look at the nerves and mechanics of live sports broadcasting as Drew prepares for his first national call. If you want the NFL’s action, drama, and laughs distilled—with a few tangents about thermostats and pop stars—this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is Cover 0. NFL Cover 0 Week 15 Mat Jones, Drew Franklin and Billy R. Sports Ready to rock after another good Sunday of football. Actually maybe the most complete Sunday, we'll have more games, a lot of exciting finishes and an old man on our screen. I really enjoyed it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, old man. Lots of comebacks. Lots of. I think there are five different games that had a 10 point comeback, so some exciting finishes on Top of the fun schedule.

[Drew Franklin]

I watched all of these games at my parents house in Middlesborough, where they keep their house at a 79 degree temperature.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, couldn't do it.

[Drew Franklin]

Why. Why do older people. Why is it so hot? And what's interesting is the colder it gets outside, the higher my parents turn the temperature up, which I. Which doesn't make sense to me. I'm like, mom, whatever the temperature is outside, if you put it at 71, it will be 71 in here. Nope. Which makes the it stifling hot. The colder it is outside, Drew, it's. It's like a reverse world.

[Matt Jones]

I know what you mean. You think they would just have the temperature they like inside, but no, they have to counter whatever's going on outside. Even if they don't even go outside. It's like we got to warm it up even more here. 79s are off. I couldn't have done it. I would have gone outside.

[Drew Franklin]

The problem is when it gets that hot, you know, if I was at my house, I would just start shedding clothing. Can't really do that with your parents. You know, I can't walk around. You know, they're already bundled up too, right? Like they're under covers, got their mittens on, on the couch, space heaters on. And I'm just like, can we please turn the heat down?

[Matt Jones]

Did you pass out at any point watching football today?

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like I went through a workout. I have a friend who owns a sauna who's closed it this weekend, and she was selling all of the equipment and I just was going to take one and take it to my parents and go, here, lay in this. Rather than make the house like it is on a daily basis.

[Matt Jones]

Well, it's not just your parents. I think my parents do that. It's just older people, they crank up the heat when it's wintertime.

[Drew Franklin]

What is the age. What is the age that you decide our house will be stifling?

[Matt Jones]

It kind of goes together. There's like a scale that goes with how early you eat. So as. As you start eating earlier.

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[Drew Franklin]

So that happened Saturday night. Kentucky was playing basketball at 7:30, so I knew we need to be back home by 7:30. My mom literally asked me at 3:30 what time I wanted to eat, and I was like, not any time close to now. And then I looked over at 5 o' clock and they both had a.

[Matt Jones]

Look like, come on, you're starving.

[Drew Franklin]

Can we get to it and then we ended up going at 6 and my dad literally looked at me and said, no, we don't normally eat this late.

[Matt Jones]

I was like, it's six, you're holding them back. We also don't normally keep it that low on 79. We did that for you.

[Drew Franklin]

So, yeah, you're right. I don't know what the age is, but there just becomes a temperature rise and a dinner early.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm glad you got to watch football all day with them.

[Drew Franklin]

What's the earliest you're going to eat dinner when you get old?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I could see myself jumping right in with the four o' clock crowd. You know when you're there and you like watch them open the door, like the hostess, she's just still cleaning the menus and like opens the door to let you in. I'll probably do that.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm big on that though, with like Saturday lunch at 11am I kind of walk in to the Mexican restaurant as.

[Matt Jones]

They'Re opening their fresh.

[Drew Franklin]

They're still cleaning the menu. Yeah, I'm kind of an 11 o' clock lunch. The person, though, to be fair. Well, I don't know which of these games you want to go first. I guess we start with the Bills Patriots, because I think that's probably the most important game. Patriots up 21, nothing early. Patriots fans who are. Are they the most obnoxious fans when they're good in sports, in the NFL?

[Matt Jones]

I think so. And they were good for so long. We just had to hear from them.

[Drew Franklin]

For so long and then they've been dormant for a few years. But I think they are the most obnoxious. And at the end of like halftime, they were. They all were already proclaiming themselves division winners. And so I really enjoyed watching the comeback in the second half. Was Josh Allen at his absolute best.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, you get that after the comeback they made last week, we're already talking about the Bills are hitting their stride at the right time. Allen look like an mvp. Bills are going to get back in the playoff mix and be that contender we wanted to be. And then they go and do it again today, scoring on like every possession to end the game. I genuinely thought, here we go with the Patriots when that game started the way it did. So I'm already a Bills fan, as you know from our Buffalo trip, but just shutting them up, especially in the way it happened, felt extra special today.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree. And I also still think I still am going to believe in Josh even if they had lost Today I was going to be like, well, if they play in the playoffs, Josh Allen will get them. But you saw why in the second half. I mean, the Patriots offense died in the second half. Not necessarily because of Drake May, but guys couldn't make catches they couldn't get open. I mean, you kind of saw the difference. Both teams have won on each other's home field. If they played tomorrow, next week, who would you take?

[Matt Jones]

I'm going with the Bills. They're hitting their stride and today, as you said, it was pretty complete. Their defense stepped up and shut the Patriots down the second half when they've been scoring early, our guy Ray Davis had a huge kick return that helped set it up. So it was really all aspects of the game. The Bills flipped a switch there in the second half from the beginning. It's two weeks in a row they've waited to get started.

[Drew Franklin]

If Henderson doesn't get that run, which is kind of a just like messed.

[Matt Jones]

Up play, has a nice cutback on.

[Drew Franklin]

They had like 10 yards of offense in the second half, like that was really the only good play they had the entire second half.

[Matt Jones]

And in the Bills interviews after they're all mentioning they had heard that the Patriots had the shirts and the hats all that ready to celebrate.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, did they?

[Matt Jones]

You know, they have that set aside so. Not that they didn't win. Want to win already. They all were talking about how that added some extra juice to the game. Know it that that could have been a celebratory game on the other end.

[Drew Franklin]

It's interesting th this game sort of confirmed. We kind of already know the playoff teams. You know, they're still playing for seating, but like in. In the wild cards, Buffalo's going to have a wild card, the Chargers are going to have a wild card. And then it's very likely Houston could be Indianapolis, but either Houston or Indianapolis will be the other one, like you kind of know. And then Pittsburgh and Baltimore will be deciding who wins the division. But like those. And then in the NFC it's probably going to be Seattle, the 49ers and then either the Bears, packers or Detroit. Two of those three will get in and one of them will not. That's kind of. We already kind of know who the playoffs are.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Now in the afc, you know, if the Pats hold on and win that division, I would not want to run into a like six seed Buffalo. I really think the way they've turned a corner, even though they might not be one of those top seeds and having home filled, they are A scary team right now that could be on the lower end of the seeds.

[Drew Franklin]

Who. Who is the. Who gets the tie break if they tie each other? Because they, they. They would have the same. They've won and one against each other. Patriots have a one game lead. But do you know who would get the. Get the tiebreake. Patriots still play the Ravens, the Jets and the Dolphins. So you know, they, they probably just need to win two. If they beat the Ravens next week, they're probably fine. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And I think they'll hold on, but had to hold off on that celebration just a little bit longer today.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And then the Chiefs are. They were done, but now they're completely done and Mahomes is hurt.

[Matt Jones]

That was just unnecessary. It was already. It was already enough that the Chiefs were out this early in the year. As you said last week, we already knew. But being mathematically eliminated today, having the acl, that was kind of unlike too much. It was so late in the game.

[Drew Franklin]

The play that essentially was going to eliminate them and he had to get hurt on that play. Now apparently towards acl, it'll be. He'll be ready by gate, you know, first game next year. But that really stinks. I mean, can it be.

[Matt Jones]

Can it be enough that they're out?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And you kind of wanted. I'm. I'm not a Chiefs hater. I actually like the Chiefs. But if you're a Chiefs hater, you want to be able to mock them. And I don't think you can mock him now that he's hurt.

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[Matt Jones]

Even the biggest Chiefs hater that was just going to dance all over him for being out of the playoffs. You can't win. Pat Mahomes tears an ACL at the very end of the game.

[Drew Franklin]

Patrick. Yeah, Pat Mahomes. I mean, you. Well, they feel like most people call him Patrick. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like people call him Pat. I've never talked to him personally.

[Drew Franklin]

Have you ever really heard anybody call him Pat?

[Matt Jones]

I might go with Pat.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Billy R]

I've heard it once or twice. I mean, it's like dg, it just kind of.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like you got to be a pretty good friend of his to call him Pat.

[Matt Jones]

Him on the back right now. Oh, he's in a bad spot. It did stink though.

[Drew Franklin]

I really have never. You've heard of people saying that once or twice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You must not get out enough in Kansas City.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I go to the 1587 steakhouse.

[Drew Franklin]

To be fair. I don't know him as well as you do.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Billy R]

Got to say, Minshew, I was glad.

[Drew Franklin]

To see he was still in the league. I didn't know I didn't want to.

[Matt Jones]

See him, but it was nice seeing him.

[Drew Franklin]

Why didn't you want to see?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, the way the circumstances.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, okay. Well, I was glad to know he was around because I've. I feel like he should be. He's a good backup. I mean, if I were the Colts, I guess the trade deadline's already happened, I would have traded for him.

[Matt Jones]

I think they've already had him as the backup too many times. He's bounced around quite a bit.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he's though, if you're gonna have a backup, Minshew and he gives the best Chris Berman nickname.

[Matt Jones]

That's right.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You want to do it?

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, you know, I want to Gardner me, me, me.

[Billy R]

That's why I brought him up. Wanted to hear this.

[Drew Franklin]

Did you want to hear?

[Billy R]

Honestly, it's what I wanted to hear.

[Drew Franklin]

It's my favorite.

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[Matt Jones]

Do you think this is the end of Kelsey? Is this.

[Drew Franklin]

I would think so. Don't you? I mean, he. He's been okay this year, maybe even better than last year, but he is kind of winding down and he seemed.

[Matt Jones]

Frustrated a lot this year. He's been on the wrong end. A few bloopers.

[Drew Franklin]

Plus you're about to do a $2 billion. You know he's about to become first man.

[Matt Jones]

This is like the royal wedding.

[Drew Franklin]

First man, a pop who is more of a powerful male second in command than him in the world. Seriously, who is more of a first man than him? Anyone? First of all, how many Women out there are more powerful than Taylor Swift in the world. I'm being dead serious. I'm not even kidding.

[Matt Jones]

I might go zero.

[Drew Franklin]

It might be zero. Okay, so world leaders. I'm trying to think of big world leaders. So, like, the woman in Germany's not in charge anymore? The woman in England's not. The woman. Australia, I don't think is anymore.

[Matt Jones]

I still say she's bigger than them. She has more power.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't. I would have argued maybe when Merck. Angela Merkel was head of Germany.

[Matt Jones]

Who did she date? The star. The star of Steve Merkel. I think it was Merkel. Stefan Merkel is who. She dated.

[Drew Franklin]

Merkel. That's right. You're right.

[Matt Jones]

No, I think she's the most powerful woman in the world.

[Drew Franklin]

That seems ridiculous, but give me a woman more powerful than Taylor Swift.

[Billy R]

Forbes has the most powerful women of 2025.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, but that's okay.

[Billy R]

Swift is 21st.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, who's number one?

[Billy R]

Number one is the president of the European Commission. That's Ursula von der Leyen.

[Drew Franklin]

First of all, her name is not Ursula von der Leon. Like, if I were to create.

[Billy R]

She is.

[Drew Franklin]

If I were to create the name of the woman that runs the European Commission, I would create Ursul. Ursula von der Leyen.

[Billy R]

That's her.

[Matt Jones]

Sounds like she'd be in a Bond movie.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. All right, I'll give her a maybe. Who's number two?

[Billy R]

Christine Lagarde is the president of European Central Bank. Location in Germany.

[Drew Franklin]

No, who's number three?

[Matt Jones]

How many fans does she have?

[Billy R]

Sane Takechi is the prime minister of Japan.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, now, I'll take. I'll give.

[Matt Jones]

All right, that's a debate we can have.

[Drew Franklin]

I'll give the prime minister of Japan she's a maybe. I'll give her A yes. That's two. I'm not going to make you do all 20. But who's number four?

[Billy R]

Giorgia Maloney, who is the prime minister of Italy.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'll give her. All right, one more. Who's five?

[Billy R]

Claudia Sheinbaum, who is the president of Mexico.

[Drew Franklin]

She hosts a show on the SEC Network. Right.

[Matt Jones]

On the Sheinbaum Show. President of Mexico.

[Drew Franklin]

You said call Claudia.

[Matt Jones]

So far, I'm still going. Taylor, over all these people.

[Drew Franklin]

President of Mexico. All right, the presidents. Is there anyone on the list ahead of her that we would have heard of? I haven't heard of the.

[Billy R]

No, I've not heard of anybody until it got down to Taylor Swift.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, last one, because I just. Who's number 17?

[Billy R]

17. Kristalina Georgia Villa is the managing director of IMF in the United States.

[Matt Jones]

Stop it. Come on.

[Drew Franklin]

They still make computers.

[Matt Jones]

Taylor should be much higher on that list.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. What? 21, though, is still pretty impressive when you're talking about. So my point is, we didn't know those women. We certainly don't know their husbands. So Travis Kelsey has no reason to play football next year. He is going to be married to the. Even by Forbes's fake news account, the.

[Billy R]

21St most powerful woman, Oprah, number 30.

[Drew Franklin]

Taylor's. She should be ahead of Oprah. There would have been a time Oprah would have been higher.

[Matt Jones]

But so does he just follow her around? Does he even podcast anymore?

[Drew Franklin]

What would you do?

[Matt Jones]

I would do absolutely nothing.

[Drew Franklin]

Would you do nothing?

[Matt Jones]

I would be whatever tour she's on.

[Drew Franklin]

But is that part of why she's attracted to you? In theory, because you're doing something like. I mean, I can't imagine she just wants a schlub.

[Matt Jones]

No, no. I'm getting fat and playing video games in the living room.

[Drew Franklin]

I can't imagine, though, that's why she's interested in Travis Kelsey.

[Matt Jones]

She's stepping over Montana's shoes in front of the door. You know, I'm just sitting there just riding her coattails all the way wherever she's going.

[Drew Franklin]

And you won't have any ego?

[Matt Jones]

No, not at all.

[Drew Franklin]

Have you seen the Netflix show the Diplomat?

[Matt Jones]

I've actually wanted to start it. I don't know what you're talking about, but pretty good.

[Drew Franklin]

But one of the kind of themes is Kerry Russell, Carrie Russell, is that her husband is also, like, a former diplomat.

[Matt Jones]

I actually watched the first episode.

[Drew Franklin]

So, like, part of the thing is he's like second, but he also has, you know, that's a constant interplay.

[Matt Jones]

He can't help himself sometimes.

[Drew Franklin]

But Travis Kelce is probably dumber than her.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

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[Drew Franklin]

And he strikes me as somebody who would be okay being, like, a schlub. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, you don't have to be a schlub. I mean, she's going all over the world. I feel like you can still be very cultured.

[Drew Franklin]

What do you think he does when he's done? You think he does, like, I don't see him going and sitting. Like, would. You wouldn't go sit on the set of FS1 if you were him? Right. Like, he's hanging out with the most famous people in the world. He doesn't want to go, you know?

[Billy R]

No. He'll be relevant regardless, you know, what.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think he'll do?

[Matt Jones]

I Think he'll have his own music career. Oh, music. I can see him trying.

[Drew Franklin]

You know he's gonna put out a bad rap album.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Billy R]

We just got a Pat McAfee.

[Matt Jones]

I think everyone remembers.

[Drew Franklin]

That was bad.

[Billy R]

Yeah, it was.

[Drew Franklin]

Why did people act like that? First of all, he named that song Dookie, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Wasn't there already a song named Dookie?

[Billy R]

That's not my.

[Drew Franklin]

That was the name of Green Day's album.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. D O K I Dookie.

[Drew Franklin]

I actually didn't hear the song. Is it good?

[Billy R]

It's not.

[Matt Jones]

Shocker. I really think we're onto something with.

[Drew Franklin]

Kelsey having a Quinn's Rich Eisen putting out his song. Yeah, I think that's a good call.

[Matt Jones]

First reported here.

[Drew Franklin]

He's gonna make a rap album. They lost to the Chargers. I can't. I saw Justin Herbert's about to break the record for most passing yards in under six years. Would you have had any idea?

[Matt Jones]

No. I know it's been a good year and it's been quiet because he plays for the Chargers and they've had such a bad line this year. But I did not know that it was to that extent that he's making history.

[Drew Franklin]

But it is weird. The Chargers are good under. Like, no one talks about them. And they're also in la. Like, they should be known. They have a quarterback. The Chargers have to be like, we did everything you were supposed to do. We are in Los Angeles. We have a handsome quarterback who dates a pop star. Why doesn't anyone care about Michigan wins the national championship.

[Matt Jones]

They go get a coach.

[Drew Franklin]

Coach.

[Matt Jones]

They're doing everything right.

[Drew Franklin]

We follow my mother. We did exactly what you all said. And no one cares about, you know.

[Matt Jones]

Beat the Chiefs twice, win at the international game. They're doing everything they possibly. Yeah, that was their home game they gave up for week one.

[Drew Franklin]

They can do.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe they'll get a Super bowl this year and no one will care.

[Drew Franklin]

They have cool uniforms.

[Matt Jones]

They do the throwbacks a lot, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Powders the Chargers can do to make.

[Matt Jones]

Me approach Archers podcast if someone likes them.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I talked about this. I've never met a Chargers fan ever.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they have that one woman fan that just keeps popping up.

[Drew Franklin]

Well at the draft.

[Matt Jones]

She's become like a mascot. She was at the. Something big happened a week or two ago and the TV cuts to her.

[Drew Franklin]

Seriously, in your life, have you met a Chargers fan? No. Have you?

[Matt Jones]

No, not at all. Just the. The one that I see on tv. That woman. Never met her, though.

[Drew Franklin]

I just know famous one.

[Billy R]

I met a Former Charger, but never like a fan.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

He even didn't even like them.

[Drew Franklin]

He still preferred the Rams. Well, congrats for them. But still, no one's going to care. All right. Philip Rivers. I loved it.

[Billy R]

Former chair.

[Matt Jones]

I loved it so much.

[Drew Franklin]

I want to go through the various things I liked about it. I know they lost, but you know what? Who cares, right? I love how Fatty is now. I said to my mom watching it, look, he's old. And she said, how old is he? And I was like, how old do you think she is? And he said, she said, 57. I was like, no, no, no, he's not 57.

[Matt Jones]

Ruins your story.

[Drew Franklin]

That would be a little bit. Yeah. Because then you're like 44. I was like, but he didn't play in five years. And she said, oh, how does that happen? I said, I don't know. And then she said, isn't there anybody else they could find?

[Matt Jones]

Cam Newton.

[Drew Franklin]

Not a bad question, but I like that he's kind of fat. At least barrel chested, you know, I.

[Matt Jones]

Hate calling him fat, but as an athlete that's about to start a football game, that was a fat person.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's not fat for life.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he's fat. For a quarterback that's starting in the.

[Drew Franklin]

NFL, he looked like a high school coach whose New Year's resolution is to get back in the gym.

[Matt Jones]

I was watching him early, too. When he's like, on the field two and a half hours before in that windbreaker. That wasn't doing him any favors, by the way.

[Drew Franklin]

That wasn't helping him. Not a good fit.

[Matt Jones]

No. Someone should have been like, hey, throw this hoodie on. Get a little more.

[Drew Franklin]

Give him space. Yeah. Need some space. He's like, really slow. I mean, it's nice to have him out there. I used to always have a theory. I'd like in every Olympic event just to have one regular person to have a basis of comparison. Right. 100 meter dash. Just put a regular guy in there, too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. With everyone else.

[Drew Franklin]

So I can see, like, I can really see how fast they are.

[Matt Jones]

We'd appreciate it much more.

[Drew Franklin]

The winners, without question. Because, like in, you can see the 8th fastest person in the world and they look like they're barely moving. But if they're racing against Billy, think about it. Usain Bolt, another sprinter. Do you know another one?

[Billy R]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And there's all kinds of them.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, what are their names?

[Matt Jones]

You know, the others.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I don't want to get into it.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't want to get anybody Out.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't want to get off topic on this show, honestly. I like when we just stick to football.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think Usain Bolt has run for a decade.

[Matt Jones]

He's also looking a little bit like Philip Rivers, actually.

[Drew Franklin]

But I'd like to have a regular person, Philip Rivers is that guy. Because watching him scrambling today, you were like, oh, did you see the clip.

[Matt Jones]

Where he fell down backpedaling and then just kind of like, you know, you have to get on all fours to get up. You can't just like hop right up. You can't have roll over and then get up. He did that.

[Drew Franklin]

He's like, when I hurt my back and you have to put one elbow down.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And kind of. Yeah, I'm.

[Matt Jones]

I'm a Colts hater. I gotta admit, I woke up excited to watch the Colts play football today.

[Drew Franklin]

So his first few passes were kind.

[Matt Jones]

Of wobbly, needed a little time.

[Drew Franklin]

But then I actually thought once he got going, he wasn't bad. Right.

[Matt Jones]

I was watching live for that touchdown pass, you know, sure, it was just a little short dump off, but he hit him right in stride, had that little Philip river sidearm. I was happy for him to get that one td.

[Drew Franklin]

And even he threw a pass late, which I think was incomplete, but I was like, that's got some good lift on it.

[Matt Jones]

Still has the arm.

[Drew Franklin]

Just.

[Matt Jones]

It was so clear. I mean, even more than the Rogers Flacco game, this was our true 4 year old washed up man out there trying to do it and he still let it come back. Well, first of all, they should have won.

[Drew Franklin]

The Seahawks are 10 and 4 and they almost won on the rope.

[Matt Jones]

Great defense too, that he was playing against.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, that's. I don't know, I feel like that's worth something.

[Matt Jones]

Isn't just going on the road in general, just him traveling to Seattle had to have worn him out. And then you're playing this tough defense.

[Drew Franklin]

His age changing time zones.

[Matt Jones]

Can you imagine the pretzel his brain was in?

[Drew Franklin]

Gotta fly commercial.

[Matt Jones]

But when he got the ball and they were down one or two, whatever it was, it was kind of like, here we go, Philip Rivers time. They go and get the field goal, but then the. The Seahawks turn around and get them right back.

[Drew Franklin]

These field goals now, like, boring.

[Billy R]

They're going to make them.

[Drew Franklin]

They make it to where?

[Billy R]

Like anywhere.

[Drew Franklin]

You only need like 20 yards to get a field goal. I don't like that.

[Matt Jones]

The Colts should have had the game winner.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, but, I mean, the Colts did the same thing. I mean, they made a 60 yard.

[Matt Jones]

Field goal, but it was the Rivers comeback. That was the poetic ending. It should have ended there.

[Drew Franklin]

Ended there. I do like it. I thought the. The video of his. His players cheering for him in the restaurant. I thought that was really cool. I thought his speech at the end was really cool.

[Matt Jones]

Hopefully.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, certainly I think of my sons and those ballplayers, you know, that I'm in charge of at the school, that they'll say like, crap, coach wasn't scared. You know, I mean, it's like, shoot, Sometimes you. There is doubt and it's real. And you again, you can, you can. The guaranteed safe bet is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot. Let's see what happens, you know, and so, yeah, I hope that in that sense that it can be a positive. Because if you think about it, the biggest reason for him not to do it would have been embarrassment. Right.

[Matt Jones]

People calling him fat on a podcast.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, not me, but like other people, we're for him. I meant fat P. AJD Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Where does he. Acknowledging what he looked like. We're pro Philip Rivers.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but it could have been a disaster, right?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Could have been embarrassing, career mocking. But it wasn't. And I actually think that is a good message. Like, you have to have the courage to go out there and fail.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What better thing can a high school coach do than be like, you know what? Watch this, kids. I'm gonna get off the couch and go play an NFL game real quick and actually hold my own. Sure, there were a few, Mom. Overall, he had a minute to win.

[Drew Franklin]

I can throw it over the mountain.

[Matt Jones]

What a big game for the Colts line, too. You know, the pressure they have. Like, we can't let this guy get killed. Obviously he's not going to be running around out there being a mobile qb. But they protected him and gave him time.

[Drew Franklin]

You're right. And they seem to call plays that were pretty, pretty good for him. So now in the playoffs, I have a controversial opinion.

[Matt Jones]

Now he needs to quit, step away.

[Drew Franklin]

Because I don't want it.

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[Drew Franklin]

Like, I have a good memory. This would be a great story. But if he goes out next week and loses 40 to nothing and just.

[Matt Jones]

Gets, you know, sacked after sack, you know, beat up.

[Drew Franklin]

Who do they play in their last three games? Do we know who they.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they've already played the Titans twice, so I know they're not in the.

[Billy R]

49Ers, the Jags and the Texans for their last three games. And they're on the outside looking in right now in the playoffs.

[Drew Franklin]

The Jags and the Texans. So like the Texans, the best defense in the league, 49ers blitz a lot.

[Matt Jones]

Jacksonville's leading the division.

[Billy R]

That Texans game could be for the final wild card spot.

[Matt Jones]

He could lead the cold SPECs when the AFC south in the playoffs.

[Drew Franklin]

I think that's good. Just this is enough.

[Matt Jones]

He specifically said, I'm not trying to be the star. We need to run and play defense. And then ended up with the ball in his hands late in the game.

[Drew Franklin]

And he did it. And he and I, even though they ran, I enjoyed it. And I've never been a Philip Rivers fan. He's always kind of come off as a little condescending, but how could you not root for it? It's perfect proof of what I've said for years. If you stick around long enough, everyone cheers for you. Right? And that's what he had.

[Matt Jones]

Just saying out loud. A grandfather threw a touchdown pass today in the NFL. That was outrageous.

[Billy R]

Well, he doesn't cuss. He was fired up on the sideline.

[Matt Jones]

Dagnabbit.

[Billy R]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, he doesn't cuss?

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[Drew Franklin]

Why not?

[Matt Jones]

Big dad. Is it dad? Gummet.

[Billy R]

Gummet. And he said today.

[Drew Franklin]

Crap. Is he like a big religious guy?

[Billy R]

I don't know if it's religion, but he's never cussed.

[Drew Franklin]

Come on.

[Billy R]

Like that's his thing. Like he doesn't cuss, but he's a big trash guy.

[Drew Franklin]

You don't think he's ever cussed? You think that man has played sports his entire life in this era and hasn't cussed?

[Billy R]

Probably not, if you're going to make your personality.

[Drew Franklin]

My dad hasn't cussed ever, so. But he's old. But do you believe back then they didn't cuss?

[Billy R]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. No, I believe him. So maybe I believe Philip Rivers, but.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe one slipped once or twice.

[Drew Franklin]

That's his thing. His dad, Gummet Larry played the bass violin. He wasn't in professional sports lot.

[Billy R]

That is different.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a little different.

[Matt Jones]

You touch his thermostat, he might get turned from 79. You might get something.

[Drew Franklin]

That'S true. Well, we wish it we've been met Wishing the best. And what was the name of the Seattle kicker that made all the kicks, Maze?

[Billy R]

Myers.

[Drew Franklin]

Myers.

[Billy R]

Yeah. They didn't score a touchdown.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, I enjoyed that game.

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[Drew Franklin]

Ravens shut out the Bengals 24 nothing. I think the story of this game was how cold it was. They said it was, what, three, four degrees at kickoff or whatever.

[Billy R]

Coldest game ever in that stadium.

[Drew Franklin]

Really ever.

[Matt Jones]

That's cold.

[Drew Franklin]

Would you have gone and said it if you were a Bengals fan?

[Matt Jones]

I like the cold weather stuff and I always say if I'm going to Lamborgh Buffalo, I want it cold. But to watch the Bengals and the condition they're in now. No, it's like different. It's not like historically where I think of a cold venue where I want to be. Yeah, the frozen tundra. No, not in a Bengals game. I don't.

[Drew Franklin]

Frozen tundra of Joe Brown Stadium right across the messy Ohio from Covington.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, this doesn't fit my. My formula of when I want to be cold at a game.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but there were a lot of people there.

[Matt Jones]

I trying to enjoy their last burrow moments.

[Drew Franklin]

I like the people seeing how much of people's bodies they can cover with clothes. The coach seemed to only have, like, the area between his eyes covered. He looked like an owl. The Bengals coach?

[Billy R]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he looked really cool. What do you think about the guys that come out with their shirts off.

[Matt Jones]

In conditions like, well, Mack Hollins in this game, walked into the stadium barefoot with his shirt off. That's too much. I know. That's his thing. He's done that before. I feel like you're just trying too hard. No one believes you and no one cares that you're tough enough. Like, put a jacket on, you're going to catch a cold.

[Drew Franklin]

But. Yeah, what does that prove?

[Matt Jones]

Nothing. Nothing.

[Billy R]

You're tough.

[Matt Jones]

I know that. The moment that camera gets off of you, you're running over there in the tunnel and covering up as quickly as possible.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you're not that tough.

[Matt Jones]

And Matt Collins today, walking barefoot on concrete where it was so cold. I mean, you're going to get frostbite. Yeah, maybe not, but nobody needs to see you do that. Put some boots on.

[Drew Franklin]

The people I feel sorry for are the referees, and they look so cold and they look sad. And this is controversial. I don't think they should have to.

[Billy R]

Wear those little hats, the NFL hat.

[Drew Franklin]

Those little white hats. Like, we don't make other. We don't. We don't make other people run around in their little hats.

[Billy R]

Well, you got to know who the umpire is, the main guy who's going to talk.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think it's the guy dressed as a referee?

[Billy R]

Well, yeah, the one with the white hat is the one that talks.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, the other guys don't wear hats.

[Billy R]

And they don't talk.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they have black hats, white hats.

[Drew Franklin]

Wait a minute. I didn't realize that. You're telling me. I don't know if I've ever noticed this. The only referee that wears a hat is the guy that talks.

[Billy R]

No, no, no. The one with the white hat is the one that talks. The other ones have a black hat.

[Matt Jones]

On with white pinstripes.

[Drew Franklin]

You know what? I've never noticed that. So. So they only have the main guy wears the white.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Huh?

[Matt Jones]

You know who's in charge, calling the white cap. Don't mess with him. If you're going to mess with the ref, pick one of the ones with the black hat and the white stripes.

[Drew Franklin]

I never noticed that. Can I tell you the other thing that's scary are when the referees get knocked down or the large cameramen and women that get knocked down feel bad for those people. Sometimes they get rolled up from behind because they're not even looking.

[Matt Jones]

That players never seem to care. They'll run right over them. Sometimes players look like they're proud of it. They'll get a good hit on them.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Well, it's tough game out there.

[Drew Franklin]

It's very cold. I. By the way, if you're. If you're wondering, what are you going to say about the game? I don't Know that game? I mean, the Bengals didn't score. First time they've been shut out offensively in the Borough era. After the game, did you see the question the guy asked Joe Burrow?

[Matt Jones]

I just.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Matt Jones]

I know he seems to hate life.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. He asked him a question. He said, in the last two years, the team's performance has been slipping. Do you ever think you yourself, as a player are slipping? Burrow was like, no. He was like, I'm good. But it was. You don't see, like, reporters just go, you're not good anymore.

[Matt Jones]

Calling him out a little bit. He seems unhappy. I know that was a big story. Coming into the game. He had some comments.

[Drew Franklin]

He was having, like, an existential.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, there was some Andrew Luck comparisons. And then today, he got knocked on his behind pretty bad, and his teammates didn't really run over. People were speculating, like, see, I even like Burrow. Like, is he just miserable right now with all he's been through? So there's what all.

[Drew Franklin]

Is he just a lot. It's not like he's had to go to war.

[Matt Jones]

Well, he has had an insane amount of injuries for somebody his age, Annie.

[Drew Franklin]

What, two.

[Billy R]

He's played a lot less games and had a lot more sacks than Andrew Luck did at the same time, period. So there was, like, these comparisons.

[Drew Franklin]

Andrew Luck. Everybody always compares when guys are like that. But here's the thing. No one ever retired. Like, no one retires early except Andrew Luck. He was the one guy, but he was, like, a 40 student from Stanford. Joe Burrow went to LSU and smoked a cigar in the locker room. Like, I don't think that's the same thing.

[Matt Jones]

I think they're just seeing his sadness, wondering if he could pull an Andrew Luck.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Because he just seems to be down.

[Drew Franklin]

No matter how much money these guys. I mean, Philip Rivers got $150 million, and he came back. I heard somebody with a straight face say, well, this. He gets five more years of health insurance. I'm like, you didn't think he could afford five more years of health insurance?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know how many kids are on that. Maybe he actually did need the health insurance.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. All these guys, like, no one quits voluntarily. They quit because they're not good anymore.

[Matt Jones]

Well, and getting shut out like that, that could add to it. They're just sad around. Around.

[Drew Franklin]

Cincinnati Jaguars beat the Jets.

[Matt Jones]

Trevor Lawrence had an insane day.

[Billy R]

Six touchdowns.

[Drew Franklin]

It's six.

[Billy R]

Five passing, one rushing, 50 yards rushing. That's the first player ever in NFL history to do that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I know it was the jets, but he had like a truly hist. Historical days today.

[Drew Franklin]

That's awesome.

[Matt Jones]

Another one for. For Cohen's coach of the year resume.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you believe in them?

[Matt Jones]

I do because they're. They seem to get better and better and then him having a guy. No, like I said the jets, but I mean to have six touchdowns. I don't care who you are. Cohen has just been great for them in this first. In his first season.

[Drew Franklin]

Who is the favorite to get coach? Is it him or is there was. It could be Mike Variable.

[Matt Jones]

They went out. Yeah, I mean variable's gonna be.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean it could be like the best.

[Matt Jones]

Jacksonville has 10 wins and I don't.

[Drew Franklin]

Think Payton's got the best record.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. I mean the, the whole standings have been flipped upside down from what we.

[Drew Franklin]

Thought they'd be interested and see what the odds are for those. I would think the favorite is variable. Am I right about that?

[Matt Jones]

I don't have here yet.

[Billy R]

So let me keep looking. I did see red zone went straight from that Baltimore Scentsy game to a cut of people in the hot tub in the Jacksonville game. And it was 70 degrees at that game.

[Matt Jones]

I saw that.

[Drew Franklin]

Is anyone attractive ever getting that hot tub? Like, I'm not, I'm not being judgmental. It's just. It feels like, I mean, well, that should be. You know, I just, every time I see that, I again I think about like I would not feel comfortable being in national television on. In a hot tub. These people don't seem to have that self awareness. No.

[Matt Jones]

As soon as it came on, like I know what Billy's talking about, they cut right to it. My wife was like, oh, who would get in that?

[Drew Franklin]

Like it's.

[Matt Jones]

That was her instant reaction.

[Drew Franklin]

And part of it is the people.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, and they were showing a lot of leg in that cut today too.

[Drew Franklin]

It was like.

[Matt Jones]

It was like a lower angle. I'm like, I don't need all this leg.

[Drew Franklin]

There's a lot of thigh.

[Billy R]

Liam is third in coach of the year. Okay, so Brable first, Variable first. Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach, second. Liam Cohen, third.

[Drew Franklin]

Where's Ben Johnson?

[Matt Jones]

He should be in the mix.

[Billy R]

Kyle Shanahan, fourth. Ben Johnson fifth. Sean Payton.

[Drew Franklin]

There's actually a lot of good candidates this year when you consider how many teams have made a reversal. But Brable's probably going to win.

[Matt Jones]

Jacksonville's got an easy schedule to end the year. I mean they could end up like what, 13 wins? I mean that's insane for what we thought they'd be this season and then.

[Drew Franklin]

Next year play a really hard schedule, you know. Same with the Patriots, though. They both have had pretty easy, pretty.

[Matt Jones]

Tough to knock off variable right now.

[Drew Franklin]

Texans win 40 to 20. I didn't see a lot of this game, to be honest with you. Like when. When you're sitting with your parents and they're trying to tell you stories about, like, tomatoes and stuff, and you're watching Red Zone, you're trying to figure out when. I tended to, like, start listening. I'd ask them to start the story when the Texans Cardinals game was on. So I. I don't really know a lot.

[Matt Jones]

I caught some of it. I can just. It's. It's more of, you know, the Texans are just. Just taking what Davis Mills set them up for. C.J. stroud. Yeah, C.J. stroud had a big game, but this all goes back to Davis Mills just keeping it together for a couple of weeks.

[Drew Franklin]

One of the three best Stanford quarterbacks of all time.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Collins had two touchdowns today. And Stroud is great. And that defense surprisingly gave up 20 points.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, they're quietly nine and five. The AFC south is good. IS. Has got three playoff contenders in it. No other division does. Who saw that coming?

[Matt Jones]

I didn't think any of those teams. Maybe the Texans. But of the four of the AFC South, I didn't think anyone would be good this year.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, they are. The other two early games, commanders, Giants again. I don't think a lot of people cared about it. It was cold. Eagles beat the Raiders in a game that I don't think Red Zone showed. One second of it was one of.

[Billy R]

The fastest games over the last 20 years.

[Drew Franklin]

It was like in 2 hours and 30 minutes or something.

[Billy R]

Yeah, I'm not sure on the time, but I think it was. The raiders only had 75 yards.

[Drew Franklin]

Pete Carroll coming back.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know how you can. Or why would.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, he would. Because again, no one quits. That's.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Drew Franklin]

But.

[Matt Jones]

But that mean they've been terrible and they.

[Drew Franklin]

And they. There's like no hope for them to be better.

[Matt Jones]

No. Like, they had like 40 rushing yards. Kenny Pickett completed maybe half of his passes. It was just bad all the way around. Eagles did whatever they wanted offensively. Clearly in a 31 nothing game.

[Drew Franklin]

Broncos beat the packers in sort of mini, maybe super bowl preview. I am going to probably have to just submit to Bo Nicks. I mean, I've held out on him being good all year. I Watched him play those games at Auburn. I was like, this is the worst player that's ever existed. Then he went to Oregon and had success. But I dismissed it. Went high in the draft. I mocked. It was good. I'm just. I got to submit to Bo Nicks, and I don't want to, but I think I have to. Right? He's. I mean, this was a great win for them today.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, he had four touchdowns against the Packers. It's hard to call him like a game manager. Just keep saying it's fluky when they just keep winning and winning and winning. So, yeah, I mean, he's. He's for real and they're for real. You can't argue it at this point. Couldn't argue two weeks ago, even though we try. Still tried.

[Drew Franklin]

I. You know, they're. They are now. Best record in the NFL. Okay. One seed currently in the afc. Normally that resume would make you a Super bowl favorite. Are they.

[Matt Jones]

I think they have to be. Especially getting a big win today. Had to come back a little bit to get it. I know one of the big stories today was Micah Parsons got hurt. He had been playing a great game up until that point, but, I mean, that was late in the game. The Broncos were still. The way Bo Nicks played against a good defense. I mean, they're just beating every team you put in front of them.

[Drew Franklin]

There's this out.

[Matt Jones]

Do we know it's an ACL likely.

[Billy R]

Out for the year.

[Drew Franklin]

There was a lot of injuries in the late. In the late series of games.

[Matt Jones]

Adams, his looks like a hamstring.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Was hurt for a little bit, but came back. And then, of course, Mahomes and Parsons are about two of the biggest names you can have.

[Drew Franklin]

Parsons wins. His bit is big.

[Matt Jones]

I think that actually knocks them out of contention a little bit. He's been such a difference maker on defense for them, and it knocked him.

[Drew Franklin]

Out of first place. Yeah, I think that's a big one because they were kind of one player away. And Romo did a good job of, like, pointing out when they would move him to different places on the field and wherever they put him. It's like, dude, it's so good. I hate, like, to lose him and Mahomes in the same day is just that stuff.

[Matt Jones]

And it can take three people to stop him. I mean, I just. I think that might be it for the packers in the. In the big time goal.

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[Matt Jones]

Wouldn'T have believed it because I can think of some bad interceptions he's had.

[Drew Franklin]

Isn't that impressive, though?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's very impressive.

[Billy R]

Yeah, he had a throw today to DJ Moore. He really.

[Drew Franklin]

But I mean, that's. I feel like that doesn't. I don't think I had any clue that was true until I saw it today.

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Because I. Fewest interceptions ever for a quarterback with a thousand passes.

[Matt Jones]

So you're a believer.

[Billy R]

Oh, he's all in. It's been a big year for Matt.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, this has been like. He's been great. I mean, what can you. The next step for a good team is you play a team like this on your home field and they're never in it. And that's what happened. Right. So I don't know how you couldn't be happy. Defense is really good. Caleb doesn't make bad as many bad decisions. And Ben Johnson is. Is fun.

[Matt Jones]

And you got several weapons. It's not like you just got one standout target you're going to. I mean, they're Using everybody. We've got multiple running backs now.

[Drew Franklin]

Can I give you my worry, though?

[Matt Jones]

What's that?

[Drew Franklin]

Look at their schedule. All right, they are 10 and 4, but they are not guaranteed a playoff spot because The packers are 9, 4, 1. Detroit is 8 and 6. Detroit has two easy games, so they're probably going to come into the final game 10, 6. The Bears have to play the packers next week and then the 49ers. So they. If they. If they don't win one of those games, they'll be 10 and six and they will play the Lions. The last week of the year winner goes to playoffs. So the Bears are even at 10 and four and in first place in the division and the number two seed in the playoffs. They're not assured of getting in.

[Matt Jones]

And we knew when the packers just got them last week. The Bears went from second to seventh, but we knew with this game coming up, they could flip it right back. Already got a little help today. That's where I think, you know, you don't want to.

[Drew Franklin]

They have three games. I think to make the playoffs for sure they're going to need to win one of them, but none of them are assured.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't want to. You don't want to celebrate an injury, but I think the Parsons thing today was so big to the packers future. I think you feel better about finishing the job now because that head to head coming up is so big. Well, it's big for what happens in that division.

[Drew Franklin]

It's also just big for the psyche of the Chicago Bears. The packers have been our nemesis for 15 years and you play them at home and if you beat them, you have a very good chance of winning the division. I would say it's the biggest game in the history of organized sports.

[Matt Jones]

Organized sports, you're going to say for the Bears. Biggest game in all of sports.

[Drew Franklin]

Give me a bigger one.

[Matt Jones]

You make a good point, especially with there only being three weeks left in the season. That shows very important.

[Drew Franklin]

No, it is a. It's a huge game for them and it's a chance to really. It would be a massive win for the franchise. But again, they are not assured to make the playoffs. I don't mean to be like Debbie Downer, but it is true.

[Matt Jones]

Packers 49ers, Lions, even though the Lions have, you know, been pretty inconsistent, that's not three teams you want to see when you're trying to win out and get this done.

[Drew Franklin]

We do need to say Shador.

[Matt Jones]

He might not be the future. Those interceptions today, those were bad. I Mean, not that there's a good interception, but he looked pretty terrible. He was.

[Drew Franklin]

Let's see a start. 18 of 35 for 177 yards, but his QBR was only 8.2.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Yeah, the picks were ugly.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, 8.2, unless it's a scale of 10.

[Matt Jones]

Felt like he got sacked a lot, too. Seems like y' all were living in the backfield.

[Drew Franklin]

When I was watching, he had five sacks.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, sounds about right.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, the Shador thing, like it's. It's feast or famine with him. What would you do if you were the Browns? I mean, do you draft the quarterback?

[Matt Jones]

I think you got to keep going back to that. Well, I mean, he. I don't think he was ever going to be the answer, especially when they were waited so long to get him. But I don't know that. Sorry, Billy. Your boy dg, or should do, are going to be the future of your franchise.

[Billy R]

Yeah. What about Deshaun?

[Matt Jones]

Running it back to Sean?

[Billy R]

Still on the team?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I don't know. I. I don't think you can come back. Well, first of all, one of those two guys is not going to be on the roster next year. So which one are you getting rid of?

[Matt Jones]

Well, you don't really have a big financial commitment to Shador.

[Drew Franklin]

But you're probably not going to bring back both Gabriel and Shador. So which one are you going to bring back?

[Matt Jones]

Gabriel. It's pretty easy. Shador. You had your shot. It's fun. It was fun having.

[Drew Franklin]

Why aren't they playing Gabriel right now?

[Matt Jones]

Couldn't tell you. I mean, neither one of them are the answer. They're going to have to draft somebody. But of the two.

[Billy R]

Well, he got hurt initially, and then Shador had that big game versus the.

[Matt Jones]

Titans, but they've already said he's going.

[Drew Franklin]

To play the rest of the year.

[Matt Jones]

Right, but neither are the answer.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, well, go get Gardner.

[Matt Jones]

Minshew.

[Drew Franklin]

That's very pessimistic of you. Your Titans.

[Matt Jones]

We're taking some steps forward. Big Jeff Simmons caught a touchdown today, so that was exciting. We're getting some points. Cam Ward still looking a little better. Our rookie receivers, we didn't win, which is good. You know, I didn't love that we lost the number one pick by winning a few weeks ago. But, you know, they're not getting their teeth kicked in anymore, so that's been fun. But they were never in it. I guess they're in it till about halftime, but third quarter was a disaster. No.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

They just have overall organization like Nothing is good.

[Drew Franklin]

I watched the entire game and not until the fourth quarter did I know whether it was Brock Purdy or Mac Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Started calling the name a little more in the second half.

[Drew Franklin]

I still couldn't figure out which one because I think they're the same person and. But I will note. Remember what I said about the 49ers. They're 10 and 4 and I don't even think they're good.

[Matt Jones]

You said that. I think on our first podcast get.

[Drew Franklin]

Ready for they would go 13 and 4 and not be good. Let's see who they have left because they are 10 and 4 right now.

[Matt Jones]

They got your Bears. We just mentioned that.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, so that's a big one. That Bears ended up better and they play the Colts and they play the Seahawks. Now Seahawks are good, so maybe they don't finish 13:4, but I think they got a good shot at.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah and I really thought they'd look even better. I mean I know they won by two touchdowns and scored 30 some points today, but playing my Titans always expect a team to look perfect and didn't have that today.

[Drew Franklin]

Tyler Shuck. What the.

[Matt Jones]

You know, he's got him excited down there.

[Drew Franklin]

I. I think he might be decent. I still think you're probably going to draft some more. But what if he plays really well the next three weeks? I mean, this was a bit the first. You never pick a Panthers when you think they're going to win. They're going to lose. You think they're going to lose. They're going to win. By the way, Carolina Mike just called my ESPN show. Just regular. Regular caller. He just called and asked if we wanted him to sing a song like in the middle of the show.

[Matt Jones]

Of course we do.

[Drew Franklin]

Mike, I. I think I really like Caroline Mike even more.

[Matt Jones]

As you should.

[Drew Franklin]

But. But back to shock maybe.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, the last two weeks, I mean, he had that big run where he lowered his shoulder last week for a touchdown. He had some big plays that he just. He also just plays with a little bit of fire that even if maybe you don't believe him in him, he at least has the confidence and look like a guy who could lead your team.

[Drew Franklin]

He's got some. He's got some little moxie to him.

[Matt Jones]

That I didn't think he had coming out of college.

[Drew Franklin]

He's got like 10 pieces of flair.

[Matt Jones]

He's got a few pieces of flair. I never thought he would have worked out. But now back to back weeks he's looked good against, you know. No, that's great teams but in this division, it's hard to get a good read on how good these teams are.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, to be fair, they've been competitive for a few weeks.

[Billy R]

There have been a few weeks this year. They have.

[Drew Franklin]

No, but I mean. Okay, so let's go through here real quick before you start being a snobby. They beat the Bucks. They lost the Dolphins by four. They won today. They beat the Panthers a couple weeks ago. Played the Bears. Pretty competitive. Played the Patriots 25:19. And I think that was the first game Chuck played. So, you know.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I'm not hating like Billy. I think Billy's just mad it's his division and the Bucks aren't winning games in it. I'm seeing. I'm seeing a little bit of shuck magic in there.

[Billy R]

Oh, I'm very happy for Shock. I mean, that was a big win for the Bucks. I mean, that's.

[Drew Franklin]

So are you. The Panthers have left in the year. The Bucks, Seahawks and the Bucks again. So the Bucks are going to go two out of three with the Panthers. How do you feel about it?

[Billy R]

Not great. Now Tampa's reeling right now. The locker room is. Is a. Is falling apart. It's falling apart. I should have went in the locker room at.

[Drew Franklin]

How do you know. How do you know the locker room's fall?

[Billy R]

Well, the beat writers that text with.

[Drew Franklin]

Them, what are they saying?

[Billy R]

They're saying it's not great right now.

[Drew Franklin]

What are they upset about?

[Billy R]

I mean, Baker.

[Drew Franklin]

They're mad at what has happened.

[Matt Jones]

We didn't.

[Billy R]

Mike Evans.

[Matt Jones]

We didn't really get to mention Thursday.

[Billy R]

Mike Evans coming off the.

[Drew Franklin]

The field. I haven't heard what the. What. What is the issue? I, I didn't know about any of the off. I knew they weren't playing well. But what's the off the field?

[Billy R]

Well, they've just lost like six of their last eight games. They've completely collapsed.

[Drew Franklin]

That doesn't mean the locker room is in turmoil.

[Billy R]

Oh, well, they've been yelling at each other. That's all I really know about it.

[Matt Jones]

Bad loss on Thursday Night Football. That was at it one.

[Billy R]

That was prime time.

[Matt Jones]

Buccaneers, Kirk, Cousins.

[Billy R]

Kirk is really good against the Bucks that you like. That game was against Tampa.

[Matt Jones]

I don't understand how you all were so fun for the first six weeks of the season. Looked like a real contender in the fc and now you can't beat the Falcons or the Saints.

[Billy R]

They got to win two of their last three games.

[Drew Franklin]

I know where they play the Panthers twice.

[Billy R]

Right, Right. So it's what happened.

[Matt Jones]

It's like he looks so good.

[Billy R]

I don't. I really couldn't tell you. Besides the injuries and Baker.

[Drew Franklin]

Baker's not been good. But he's got to be hurt. They said he's hurt. He has to be hurt.

[Billy R]

No, but there were three games where he just didn't run at all. It was like completely out of character for him and he just hasn't been the same since the beginning of the year.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. All right, well, the Rams for you. Rams beat the Lions. Matthew Stafford is the MVP now, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah. Both of his guys got hurt today. As we mentioned. PUK ended up being okay, but Devonte had a little hamstring injury. But. But yeah, that. That offense seems to be unstoppable and he looks so good.

[Drew Franklin]

I think I actually said on the ESPN show today that I thought today would decide the mvp. But between Stafford and Drake, man, I think it did. You know, Drake may lost. Stafford was great. Lions are 8 and 6, but they have three very winnable games down the stretch. So I don't think they're out of it yet either.

[Matt Jones]

And the golf, Stafford here, Stafford won the game, but golf had a pretty big game for the Lions in the head to head and that, you know, know, old storyline from that trade.

[Drew Franklin]

They've played each other a lot since that trade. A couple times in the playoffs. And just in general, your boy Hutchinson.

[Matt Jones]

Had a big interception on Stafford almost.

[Drew Franklin]

That was a great play. Are the Rams, if you were to say what is the team most likely to win the Super Bowl? Are you saying them?

[Matt Jones]

I think so. Because out of the afc I could list several, I think roll the dice in the afc but that's looking like they're the nfc, NFC team to beat. So I would, yeah, I'd give them the best odds overall. I said Rams, Bills scoring.

[Drew Franklin]

I said Rams, Bills at the beginning of the year. I still like that one. I still think that's the most likely super bowl today is Rams, Bills. I think they're the two teams the most well round, well not well rounded. They've got the two best quarterbacks. Usually the best quarterbacks are going to win the playoffs. Rams, Bills.

[Matt Jones]

And we've been saying for years, you know, Allen is just keeps knocking on that door, knocking on that door. Eventually you think he's going to get over the, over the home, get through it.

[Drew Franklin]

Vikings beat the Cowboys. What happened to Dallas? That's a terrible loss for Dallas.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they were already probably out of the playoffs. But you can't take a loss of the Vikings when you're still in the mix and have the conversation.

[Drew Franklin]

J.J. mcCarthy.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Nine. He was nine today, Billy. But you know, for a team that had a chance to dream and needed to do a few things to even be in the conversation, losing the Vikings at home like that in prime time shows you weren't for real.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Matt Jones]

That's Brandon Aubrey missed two field goals too.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, that dad, he. He showed he was human. Yeah. Can I tell you what I did during this game? Yeah. So you know I'm calling the Western Kentucky Southern Miss New Orleans Bowl. 25th anniversary.

[Billy R]

Can't wait. December 23rd, right?

[Drew Franklin]

December 23rd. On ESPN Radio. I've never called a football game that's not good.

[Matt Jones]

But think every great broadcaster had to have a first game.

[Drew Franklin]

Usually it doesn't start on national radio, though, in front of the entire country.

[Matt Jones]

It's true.

[Drew Franklin]

And usually it's not the 25th anniversary of the New Orleans.

[Billy R]

So not one rep, a play by play, not a high school game and never done one.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow. So that's 10 days away. So it's starting to like. I'm starting to realize what's in front of me. Starting tomorrow, I'm dedicating two to three hours a day for prep just to get ready. So on the drive here, I had to drive from my parents house here to Kentucky. I listened to the NFL radio broadcast. It was someone and Mike Golick. Mike Golic. You know, I knew that. I don't know who the other guy was, but I will tell you, he will forever live through me because I learned how to call the game because I listened only to him. I don't even know what Mike Golick said, but I was listening to like his cadence, right? Like third nine, you know, it was. What was the game? It was. It was Cowboys. He'd be like, third nine, Dak under center, you know, Johnson, the backfield. Too wide. I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, say under center.

[Billy R]

Under center.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. Got in the backfield. Too wide.

[Matt Jones]

You can see them. There's two. They're wild.

[Drew Franklin]

Wide, man in motion. Okay. And then he would come out and he'd go drives back to pass. Short little dump off to Rutledge. Four yards at four yards, second and six with 236 to go. And then he would wait for my gullick to talk. So I got the. I started to get the. I couldn't see the game, but I was kind of figuring out just what are the things he says? And you're gonna start to see his.

[Matt Jones]

There's gonna be parts of him and you?

[Drew Franklin]

Because I listened to an hour and a half of that game only listening to him. And what did he say? What kind of things did he say on the kickoff? What kind of things did he say?

[Matt Jones]

What details does the audience need?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, because I can do all the transitions in and out of break. I can feel time. But literally calling the game, I'm a little nervous about. But I did focus a lot during Sunday Night Football, the Westwood One broadcast.

[Matt Jones]

Which of all the pieces of info do you worry about the most? Because to me this sounds like it shouldn't be hard, but just knowing 3 yards, 4 yards, 5 yards, I'm worried about the yards. Was that 4 yards? Was that 6 yards?

[Drew Franklin]

Not worried about that.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, I'll get.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. If it ends up not correct, you'll.

[Matt Jones]

Round up to the nearest.

[Drew Franklin]

Who's going to know that's true. Right.

[Matt Jones]

You can, you can make up for it and correct that when they spot the ball.

[Drew Franklin]

Not worried about that. I've been. They, they keep saying in my head, repeat the time and the score. Gotcha. Scoreboard does that for you. Well, we're on the radio. 1131, left 10 sevens, other miss.

[Matt Jones]

I meant you can turn and actually look at the scoreboard.

[Drew Franklin]

That's true. I don't have to keep it in my mind.

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[Drew Franklin]

I am nervous about the mechanics of literally calling the plays, like knowing the formations. I'm not going to know that.

[Billy R]

Painting the picture.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I could do it in basketball. I know it well enough.

[Matt Jones]

Keep it like, don't try to get too into it. Just be like three receivers or two tight ends.

[Drew Franklin]

But football, like, if you listen to. If you get a chance between now and the 23rd, listen to a football guy, call the game. They tend to constantly flow you with him. At least.

[Billy R]

This guy, Ryan Radke.

[Drew Franklin]

Ryan Radke, he's talking a lot. He says a lot of words. And Drew, I don't know if I have that many words about the place, so I may go to a more minimalist, simplistic. So second down, my home's under center, snapped pass, 4 yards.

[Matt Jones]

Here you go.

[Drew Franklin]

Back to you, Myron.

[Matt Jones]

I'm gonna defend you because I know the exact amount of things that I need to know as if he'd said it. I know it was a four yard.

[Drew Franklin]

Pass, but do you need to know all the colors?

[Matt Jones]

Do you need to know that somebody was in motion?

[Drew Franklin]

Motion.

[Matt Jones]

Did 84 catch the pass? Maybe. Here's the deal.

[Billy R]

I'd like to know who caught it.

[Matt Jones]

You could be like, oh, by the way he had been in motion before that if you feel like it was a big part of the.

[Drew Franklin]

You were wondering. You're wondering how. Who was in motion or what if he doesn't catch it? 84 caught it. But just so you know, 81 was in motion and it was nice.

[Matt Jones]

It's a good motion.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. No, you need to know who caught it. But that's the spotter. Spotter will go catch by. They say in your ear, catch by brute. And so I just go catch by brute.

[Matt Jones]

So you're just gonna repeat this spotter. Everything the spotter says, you're just gonna keep repeating that.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm tell the sp. You just need to tell me what.

[Billy R]

I hope he knows the pronunciations of the players.

[Matt Jones]

Ghostwriter. That's another tough one. Pronunciations.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not worried about that. I'll just call them. If I can't pronounce number. Yeah, see, you can go 83.

[Billy R]

Great catch. 83.

[Drew Franklin]

83. 83. You know, 83 is bringing it Bob.

[Matt Jones]

Or give him.

[Drew Franklin]

Bob. So, yeah, I'm past a laser. I'm not worried about anything except actually the job that I'm doing, which is calling it. Because I've never done it. And I would argue this is going to be a good challenge for me because I've never done it.

[Matt Jones]

Are you going to stick with Ryan Radke as your. As your influencer? You're going to try to watch some other. Other people, maybe combine some styles, maybe a hybrid? I'm going to have a little Iron Eagle.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to have a little rad key in me.

[Matt Jones]

Got to have Radkey.

[Drew Franklin]

You can't use the television, though, because they're doing something different. Like I need to do the right. So the other thing I'm going to do is I'm going to listen to the other. Some of the other bowl games, like, what are they saying? You know, what are they doing?

[Matt Jones]

Get a feel from there. You need some examples.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And then I'm going to call some games at my house.

[Matt Jones]

That'll be fun. Are you going to actually record them? Are you just going to sit there and say it out loud?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to start with Monday Night Football. Tomorrow. I'm going to call. But the problem is I don't know everybody's name and I haven't done the research. So I'm going to give all the players pet names.

[Matt Jones]

Well, how about this? Billy and I will sit at home on our couches with our TVs off, and then you call us and call Monday Night Football and we'll tell you, like, if we're getting the visuals.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I don't want anybody to know.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

We're just going to give you a little trial run.

[Drew Franklin]

Literally, the first time I will have ever called a play in my life is going to be on ESPN Radio. My boss at ESPN has all but told me he thinks I'm going to fail, which gives you a lot of confidence.

[Billy R]

Yeah, thanks.

[Matt Jones]

But they're putting you in that spot.

[Drew Franklin]

He's like, I guarantee. I was like, so, are you excited to hear this? He's like, I. I promise you, I will be listening.

[Matt Jones]

You're like, are you sure there's nothing else you could be doing that day?

[Drew Franklin]

And he even said, there's a lot of people around here who are. I think this is their moment to get revenge on me.

[Matt Jones]

They're trying to set you up for failure?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, no, not. I think they want me to succeed, but I also think, like, you know, I have very definite beliefs in how radio should be, and I think some. Sometimes they're a little tired of hearing them. I think they're going to be like, somebody's going to have his moment here.

[Matt Jones]

They want you to be uncomfortable.

[Drew Franklin]

They want. That's exactly right. I don't think they want me to fail, but they want me to experience some nervous. I think that's probably fair.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you're going to show them. I'm going to be pass 4 yards, number 34.

[Billy R]

Time and score are important. People will say something. If you don't say time and score and. And then besides that, just have a good time.

[Matt Jones]

What a great.

[Drew Franklin]

I brought up the idea of taking calls today, and they weren't. They didn't say no. They just said, not if the game's close. So I'm kind of rooting for a route.

[Matt Jones]

You blow out.

[Drew Franklin]

I need to blow out. We'll start taking calls, do pranks on the air.

[Billy R]

Carolina Mike.

[Matt Jones]

I could call in radio. I got a lawnmower.

[Drew Franklin]

No, it's gonna be like the jerky boy called businesses.

[Matt Jones]

Be careful. You don't do too well where they're gonna expect you. Put you in the playoff next year.

[Drew Franklin]

This year, I think that's gonna happen. So, anyway, we'll probably talk more about this next week as I continue.

[Matt Jones]

You got this.

[Drew Franklin]

All right. So did you. Did you get your game right?

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[Billy R]

Sir, I survived both of them. The Bears beat the Browns and the Eagles beat the Raiders. Easiest week of the year.

[Drew Franklin]

Year.

[Billy R]

So we move on. And then when it comes to the touchdown parlay. Drew hit cmc. He's up to three. Wandell Robinson scored a touchdown so I am up to five and Dak did not score. So you remain at five.

[Drew Franklin]

Matt five, five three. So the the touchdown battle is is getting close. Getting down to the final few weeks and it should be good. We'll go that one through the playoffs too.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well absolutely.

[Drew Franklin]

Well thank you all very much for for listening. I enjoyed this week and Drew, we will be back middle of the week.

[Matt Jones]

Looking forward to it. Getting close to playoff time.

[Drew Franklin]

That's exactly right. Don't forget to when you cover Cover Zero. We'll see you later. NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio. Com app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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