NFL Cover Zero: NFL in Ireland, Cam Ward frustrated, and Ravens concern

Summary

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KSR: NFL Cover Zero – NFL in Ireland, Cam Ward Frustrated, and Ravens Concern

Podcast: KSR | Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin (with Billy “Mister Four O’Clock”)
Date: September 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

This spirited episode brings unique NFL analysis from an exotic location: host Matt Jones reports from a safari tent in South Africa’s Kruger National Park, while Drew Franklin holds down the studio in Lexington. The discussion centers around a historic NFL game in Dublin, unusual moments for players and fans, and emerging storylines on the field. The episode seamlessly weaves in Drew’s biting wit and Matt’s global adventures with lively observations about NFL teams, key games, player mishaps, and a bit of life in the African bush.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt Jones Safari Dispatch ([02:30]–[09:41])

• Matt records from South Africa: He shares stories of electric fences, midnight podcasting with hyenas nearby, and the exhaustion after an 11-hour safari.
• Wildlife encounters: Lions, hippos (noted as the most dangerous!), giraffes, rhinos, elephants (“I saw two elephants fight each other”).
• On the novelty fading: "After like seven or eight hours, you're flying by elephants like singing show tunes…and you're like all right, I've had it." ([05:33])
• Tourist faux pas: Describes being with "eight women who get very excited and sometimes just scream," much to the chagrin of the safari guide and nearby animals.

2. Personal Sports Highlights ([09:48]–[10:48])

• Reds in the playoffs: Matt celebrates the Cincinnati Reds clinching a playoff berth, humorously noting they made it by losing—while he’s on the other side of the world.

3. NFL Dublin Game – Steelers vs. Vikings ([10:48]–[15:59])

• First NFL game in Ireland: Steelers beat Vikings 24-21, defense delivers (6 sacks, 2 INTs).
• **Kenneth Gainwell fills in admirably for missing Jalen Warren.
• Skylar Thompson saga ([12:28]–[14:36]): Backup QB was robbed in Dublin pregame night.
  • "Have you ever heard of a player being part of a felony the night before the game and not committing it?" – Matt ([13:43])
  • They joke that locals surely didn’t recognize Skylar: “He could actually walk in wearing a Skylar Thompson jersey and I would not even know who he is.” – Drew ([14:36])
• Irish fan culture: "We've counted 22 NFL jerseys from different teams..." – not about loyalty to the teams playing, but the fun of the global NFL crowd.
• Steelers claim on Ireland: Mike Tomlin’s speech about Rooney family’s Irish heritage aims to make Pittsburgh the “team of Ireland.” Drew is skeptical but amused.

4. Cultural Tangents ([17:07]–[19:26])

• Team names and mascots: Banter about picking teams for the oddest reasons.
  • “Browns… I just like the color brown.” – Drew ([17:24])
• Inventing new mascots: The Louisville Leopards as an expansion NFL team.

5. Aaron Rodgers’ Most Aaron Rodgers Quote ([19:26]–[21:56])

• On being in Dublin:

  “I have a family history here… as folks may know I’m an historian so I kind of know the history, both geopolitically and other things in the area… I don’t really drink beer but if I did I’d drink Guinness.” – Matt quoting Aaron Rodgers ([19:26])

• Matt: “Who says that… Historian is someone who… is an expert on history, is Aaron Rodgers just anointing himself that?”
• Drew: “Has anyone ever thought of Aaron Rodgers as a historian?”

6. Early NFL Games Recap ([21:56]–[32:47])

- Eagles vs. Bucs:

- Eagles dominate early, win 4-0 after beating a real contender.
- Baker Mayfield nearly leads a comeback; "He’s just got a little swagger and a little juice where you can’t look away..." – Drew ([23:38])
- Tush push/rugby scrum comparisons and debate about offsides/false starts on the play. Matt’s safari guide Lee, a rugby fan, tries to “convert” him.

- Giants upset Chargers (Jackson Dart’s debut):

- Drew eliminated from survivor league for picking the Chargers.
- Crowd energized for rookie QB Jackson Dart; jokes about his mother’s TV time: “I think... we're gonna have Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce vibes in terms of amount shown of Jackson Dart’s mom.” – Matt ([32:19])

- Texans rout Titans (Cam Ward):

- "If I'm keeping it a buck, we ass." – Cam Ward on a shutout loss ([33:41])
- Titans are “so bad,” Drew laments.

- Unique Fan Engagement:

- Actual wedding on the field before a winless Titans-Texans match (“Nothing says love like Titans-Texans…” – Drew) ([34:17])

- Falcons unpredictable, Mariota’s gray hair/YA Tittle reference:

- Falcons always do the opposite of expectations.
- “He ages you… our new YA Tittle.” – Matt ([36:05])

- Saints (Spencer Rattler 0-10) vs. Bills:

- Long list of QBs who started 0-10: Warren Moon, Troy Aikman among them—so, hope remains for Rattler.

7. Later NFL Games / 4:00 Slate ([51:47]–[64:03])

- Chiefs destroy Ravens:

- “That looked like the Chiefs team of the last few years really... their offense wasn't great last year but that... they looked amazing." – Matt ([52:30])
- Ravens “tapped out,” weirdly using Derrick Henry just 8 times. Cooper Rush plays.

- Colts lose to Rams, costly mistake:

- AD Mitchell drops ball before crossing the goal line, costing a TD:
    > “This happens once a season and it is crazy to me…run to the back of the end zone before you do it!” – Matt ([54:49])

- Jaguars beat 49ers, SF injuries mount:

- San Francisco's injury curse: "At some point you start to go, there's got to be some commonality here…” – Matt ([58:33])
- Jaguars’ stock rising; division theirs to lose.

- Bears block game-winning kick vs. Raiders:

- Creative special teams play; “I'm actually becoming into yes, Caleb Williams can be good in the NFL.” – Matt ([62:00])
- Drew: “If Williams does pan out you’ve got a good offensive coach, already… could end up being a really fun team moving forward.” ([62:51])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On seeing dangerous animals while podcasting:
  • “There are people literally in the tents not very far away and they are trying to sleep because they have a 5 a.m. wake up call for a safari journey…I can literally hear hyenas in the background.” – Matt ([02:30])
• Wildlife excitement fading:
  • “After like seven or eight hours, you’re flying by elephants like singing show tunes…” – Matt ([05:33])
• Hippos:
  • “Apparently it's like the deadliest — it will kill you for even saying a cross word about it…” – Matt ([08:38])
• Skylar Thompson robbed in Dublin:
  • “Have you ever heard of a player being part of a felony the night before the game and not committing it?” – Matt ([13:43])
• Aaron Rodgers waxing poetic:
  • “As folks may know I’m an historian so I kind of know the history, both geopolitically and other things in the area…” ([19:26])
• NFL Fan Rituals Abroad:
  • “...there's no team on earth in any sport that you can predict less the results of their games than the Falcons…” – Matt ([37:17])
• On Cam Ward and Titans’ loss:
  • “‘If I'm keeping it a buck, we ass.’ That's, like, a thousand bucks. They're so terrible though.” – Matt ([33:41])
• On Taylor Swift camera-time parallels:
  • “I think the new... I’m not saying they're in the same league... but she's gonna be the new ‘why is she on my TV during football.’” – Matt on Jackson Dart’s mom coverage ([32:42])
• Drew on Baker Mayfield:
  • “[He’s] just got a little swagger and a little juice where you can't look away…” ([23:38])
• Matt on the Colts’ AD Mitchell’s error:
  • “Can you not wait two more yards to celebrate? ...I can't believe there's so many examples of this happening every season...” ([55:11])
• Drew sums up Titans-Texans:
  • “...we had an ‘I do’ and a ‘we ass’ at the Titans-Texans game.” ([34:54])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Matt in Safari (Opening, wild animals) | 02:30–09:41 | | Reds’ Playoff Clinch | 09:48–10:48 | | NFL Ireland Game / Robbery Story | 10:48–15:59 | | Jersey Counting / Fan stuff | 15:59–19:14 | | Aaron Rodgers’ “historian” quote | 19:26–21:56 | | Eagles-Bucs, Tush Push & Rugby | 21:56–25:41 | | Chargers-Giants: Survivor League, Dart Mom | 29:05–32:47 | | Texans-Titans: Cam Ward candor, field wedding | 32:55–34:54 | | Old QBs, Falcons unpredictability | 35:02–37:53 | | Saints-Bills: Rattler 0-10, QB rundown | 37:53–44:05 | | 4:00 Games Recap (Chiefs-Ravens+more) | 51:47–64:03 | | Bears’ Win, Blocked kicks surge | 61:00–62:51 | | Young QBs Talent Pool | 63:04–63:48 |

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Final Thoughts

• Matt wraps up from Africa, noting the next episode will return to Kentucky.
• The show maintains KSR’s irreverent, pop-culture-infused sports analysis, seamlessly combining global adventures, fan weirdness, obscure facts, and honest NFL talk.
• Subtle pleas for more “five-star reviews” bookend the episode.

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Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Nfl cover zero with matt jones and drew franklin is a production of the nfl and iheart podcast welcome to week four of the nfl cover zero podcast i'm matt jones and drew franklin is with me i am in krueger national park and in a tent i like a nice tent but still a tent in the middle of the african national park south african national park bush drew is in studio in lexington a more normal space drew i'm being a little bit quieter than i usually would be because there are tents on each side of me and it is midnight here i can literally hear hyenas in the background and just a little while earlier today i saw a lion so it's a little bit like most podcasts probably going on to talk the nfl today.

[Drew Franklin]

Well should we worry are you being quiet to not wake your fellow man or to not wake the animals that could disturb you at any moment there.

[Matt Jones]

Well there's an electric fence around here so i think i'm okay around around the animals but there are people literally in the tents not very far away and they are trying to sleep because they have a five am wake up call for a safari journey i'm skipping that one tomorrow we did eleven hours safari drew and i enjoy safari but eleven hours i think i saw the animals i needed to see yeah appreciate.

[Drew Franklin]

You still having the the gas to do this podcast from the other side of the world i hope you're still picking up lots of listeners for us last time we talked you were just going around making people subscribe have we had anyone from from kruger park i.

[Matt Jones]

Told a hippo today that if it did not click the link subscribe and rate and review i was going to be very upset but i will tell you first of all i highly recommend i highly recommend coming to a safari if you ever get a chance it really is awesome i met i'm at the medulli safari lodge which is which is part of kruger national park really really nice so we get up at five am this morning we go and they they drive us around the bush and i dressed in a safari hat drew i had a safari hat i dress like i think you should go to a safari like a linen shirt you know khaki pants with the pockets and all that i really felt like i was in safari mode and you'd have been proud of me in fact you know i was i was out.

[Drew Franklin]

There with nature i'm picturing like doctor alan grant from jurassic park walking around.

[Matt Jones]

Did you just no he was who he was exactly who i modeled myself after yes i was like i want to be like him was that that was jeff goldblum right in that in.

[Drew Franklin]

That movie i think alan grant was the was the other guy but any of them really is what i picture you doing out there even like you just jurassic park halloween costume that's exactly.

[Matt Jones]

What i did and here's the thing about when you go and see animals so today i saw i saw a lion i saw a hippo i saw a rhino i saw multiple giraffes multiple zebras or as they call them here zebras i saw two elephants fight each other which was kind of awesome but i don't have a phone so i didn't get to take any pictures of this so there's no proof that i saw any of these things but it's interesting because when you got when we got out at like four or five six am the first time we saw a zebra drew everybody was like ooh look at the zebra oh yeah and then you see an elephant and like we stay there for ten minutes and we're like just in awe of its magnificent beauty and then you see a giraffe and you just go oh my goodness and then after like seven or eight hours you're flying by elephants like singing show tunes and you're like all right i've had it that's good i've seen i've seen plenty of these you quickly it starts to become commonplace after.

[Drew Franklin]

A little while how how close to these animals are we getting here i assume it's not as new where there's a wall so you're just up on them you amongst them as you like.

[Matt Jones]

To say i mean what what is unbelievable coming out here is that they're right next to you like you're in a vehicle but like so they tell you please don't yell at the animals right please don't like you know because they're animals and they're there's nothing stopping them from i don't know drew eating you if you if they want to so they tell you like don't yell at them they will leave you alone but if they feel threatened you never know and i'm in a car full of if you remember i told you i'm on a safari with eight women and they are eight very sweet women but drew they get very excited when they see animals and sometimes they just scream them out and the first elephant we saw they were like elephant and then and the elephant just all of a sudden turns around and is staring right at me like are you going to do something about this or am i going to have to get involved and i was and i was like a school teacher i was like shut up because you know you get a sense of your spot in nature with how big these things are and we.

[Drew Franklin]

Can'T lose half of the nfl cover zero podcast because your companions on the trip are screaming and getting loud have a lion ripping your face off or.

[Matt Jones]

Anything like that and i learned from our guide it was wonderful like i got to know why they did the various things we do we saw a lion we also saw a dead lion with vultures eating it which is not a pretty picture like ginger that's not what they show you in the brochure or when you come but but it is i guess it's part of nature' you know the circle of life right.

[Drew Franklin]

Definitely and i can i don't know every nfl podcast but i challenge you to show me one that has dealing that is dealing with this during week four of the season lions it is.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting though it is interesting the thing that people here tell you to avoid the most you know what they're the most scared of is the hippo they're like when we got next to the hippo they were like shut up okay because that hippo you know you see you when you when you're from america you see hungry hungry hippos you think well that's a happy animal apparently it's like the deadliest it will kill you it will kill you for even saying a cross word about it and so i was kind of nervous when we went to the hippo station i've heard.

[Drew Franklin]

That even though they're they look like they just be fat swobs they're lightning fast and we'll use that jaw to lighten you apart if you need to.

[Matt Jones]

If they need to yeah yeah they'll like they'll open their mouth and be like that's what they do that's the sound they make and so so anyway it's been it's been awesome i'm really tired i've been here now fifteen days in south africa and but it's been awesome this is the people here are great and it's been great and hopefully drew one day you will get to come to this as well maybe this.

[Drew Franklin]

Will just be a tradition for the nfl cover zero we'll just start each each season in some other part of the world as far away from the.

[Matt Jones]

Nfl as possible i have some breaking news for the first time in for only the second time since twenty thirteen my cincinnati reds have made the playoffs.

[Drew Franklin]

Congratulations just saw the news pop up.

[Matt Jones]

I'M sorry that just happened because we're taping this you know a little earlier in the day today that just happened you have to give me a minute nfl world the reds made the playoffs they did it by losing but nevertheless they made it because the mets lost to the marlins and the reds who had like one fourth the payroll of the mets are in the playoffs this year drew frankel i'm happy for you.

[Drew Franklin]

And the many reds fans that are probably listening to this i just have to wonder have you all learned a lesson about giving up because i remember that west coast swing when wasn't just you it seemed to be the whole fan base thought it's over they got.

[Matt Jones]

Swept by the a's like how could you not give up but this should.

[Drew Franklin]

Be a lesson it's never over yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It'S never well so i'm very very happy about that of course they wait till i'm here and can't see any of the games but nevertheless when this is over i will watch the highlights now there was plenty of nfl action going everywhere now i actually got to watch all of the one o' clock games so i watched nfl red zone caught all of them i caught the end of the nine thirty game but billy is in charge here of the nine thirty and four o' clock games we will not be able to do packers cowboys because it will be four in the morning here billy you saw all of the packers excuse me of the steelers vikings game in dublin there's a lot of great storylines for this but give me a quick summary of the things from the actual game that was the most important yeah from the.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Actual game the first nfl game in dublin the steelers won twenty four to twenty one pittsburgh is now three and one on the season and it was thanks to their defense they were dominant for most of the game six sacks two interceptions one by tj watt aaron rodgers had an eighty yard touchdown pass to dk metcalf which is the longest touchdown pass in the nfl this season kenneth gainwell played really well with jalen warren out he had ninety nine yards.

[Matt Jones]

That doesn't sound like drew by the way a football player's name kenneth gainwell i feel like kenneth gainwell works down the street at a accounting firm but he was he was great today he.

[Drew Franklin]

Gained well today he had two touchdowns like billy said big defense was a big part of it but but warren not playing was quite a surprise and not much of a drop off there backing up aaron rodgers in the backfield.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Yeah the the game goes from twenty four six to twenty four twenty one in the fourth quarter then the vikings can't get an onside kick and eventually run out of time for the steelers.

[Matt Jones]

To win yeah carson wentz i think had thirteen comeback wins in his career was not able to get this one so the game was fine but to me drew what was interesting about this game were all the things that happened around it okay so let's start with last night before the game the backup quarterback skyler thompson is that right skyler thompson gets robbed on the streets of dublin he gets robbed i didn't see details about what they took but i've been to dublin it's actually one of the most friendly fun places to walk around how did he get robbed in what has to be like a tourist part of town right yeah i need.

[Drew Franklin]

To know more details on this it's not out completely but he got assaulted and robbed you know night before a game how late could you possibly be out night before the game i've been around there too we got like the temple bar there's that nice little area i never felt like i wasn't safe there if anything i just wanted to dance and listen to music so pretty extreme and unfortunate fortunate situation that a guy who maybe shouldn't have been out he ends up getting mugged and robbed luckily he was hurt or he was okay and still ended up showing up for the game was on the sideline but a crazy way to go go play a game in ireland for him.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah i mean just wild that you go get robbed have you guy have you ever heard of a player being part of a felony the night before the game and not committing it like having it committed on victim the night.

[Drew Franklin]

Before the game yeah and i mean i guess he probably wasn't wearing like his full pads and outfit where they knew he was an nfl player but you know ireland's got to be excited about this game and you got to think hey we can't be out punching and even if it is the backup quarterback of all the people for us to be roughing up we got to be good hosts to the nfl wait.

[Matt Jones]

A minute but you you act like they have any idea who skyler thompson is i mean would you recognize skyler.

[Drew Franklin]

Thompson tonight i don't think he had his helmet and pads on but you know of all people for them to hit you gotta roll out the red.

[Matt Jones]

Carpet you would not recognize skyler thompson could walk into that studio right now and you would not know who he.

[Drew Franklin]

Is no no clue at all not even a little bit he could actually walk in wearing a skyler thompson jersey and i would not even know who.

[Matt Jones]

He is i know skyler from breaking bad more than i know skyler thompson i know i would not have yeah i would not have it would not have occurred to me to keep him from robbery now the game itself went great seventy thousand people there apparently the turf was in really great shape which is always an issue in these road games the steelers are mike tomlin apparently gave a speech before the game where he said something to the effect of you know our former owner art rooney was from here he was an ambassador to here i think for barack obama we need to like really honor him and they did it by winning the steelers are kind of trying to claim ireland as their country they want to be the team of ireland do you think do you think that's doable for.

[Drew Franklin]

The steelers no pittsburgh you can't just claim ireland because there's a rooney connection i like the effort it's a good try there but i learned during the broadcast that the steelers and vikings weren't the only teams with fans there because at one point they said and i even had to go back and listen to make sure i heard this right in a crowd of what like sixty seventy thousand of the stadium they said we've counted twenty two nfl jerseys from different teams and i thought who is sitting around counting the bears jerseys and the lions jerseys but they said we've seen twenty two different nfl jerseys today.

[Matt Jones]

So they said we you think they just walked around and they were like okay there is i like charge of finding all the jerseys and they had to go to all seventy thousand is.

[Drew Franklin]

There an intern that does that like hey you're just gonna sit here at the gates and every time you see a new nfl jersey we want you.

[Matt Jones]

To count it i do like though when they go to these foreign countries that people just wear the jerseys of the teams that they like or have seen in the states it's it's it's like people who just say who go to games and just say go sports right it doesn't matter who's playing i will just root the on the concept of i have a good friend from.

[Drew Franklin]

Scotland like born and raised scotland but he loves the cincinnati bengals like grew up loving the bengals in scotland and i asked him why he's even come to cincinnati for games he's like i just like tigers so i mean i'm sure there are people all over the world that have picked a team based on a logo or a color or maybe they feel a connection to the city so then if they these games come to dublin or london or wherever and they're even remotely close you got you got to break out whatever whatever team it is even if they're not there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay so two thoughts here first of all what would be the weirdest team name to pick just because you like what it is would it be like the giants i just like really tall people what would be the one that would be the strangest to say well i just like that.

[Drew Franklin]

Browns browns yeah i like browns i like the color brown that's my team i just.

[Matt Jones]

Like the color brown love cleveland and the color brown that would be that would be really strange and then okay so i had this thought today riding around the bush by the way that's a phrase i'd never used drew until i got here the bush like people just use that that's right like have you ever thought about going i'm riding around like you see a high grass and go it's in the bush but like now i use it all the time i think you gotta be careful when i come back to america just throwing that around but you that people just use it like it's regular every.

[Drew Franklin]

Time you've said it i thought he's turned into a local there it sounds like we might he might not even come he's gotten so used to start.

[Matt Jones]

Calling him if i start saying zebra then you know i've you've gone but i was sitting there thinking i was like okay if i were to start a new team what is the one animal that like there isn't a team name that i can think of and we the only one of the big five we didn't spot was a leopard and i was like okay there are no teams that are leopards and i was like but that would sound stupid the leopards but then no it wouldn't because you know like ravens is a stupid name but we say it like it's normal i think if i started a team that was the leopards eventually people would just say leopards like we do jaguars right yeah i'm sure at.

[Drew Franklin]

Some point somebody in south florida was like we could be dolphins and they're like no that's not intimidating at all but you know what we've got dolphins.

[Matt Jones]

Rams could be buccaneers we can be yeah but you just if you just say it long enough then people will sign on to it so if louisville kentucky ever gets a professional sports team drew the louisville leopards why not get.

[Drew Franklin]

Leopard print outfit it would be great.

[Matt Jones]

No i mean not leper like leprosy.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah i'm aware i picked up i.

[Matt Jones]

Think that would not be a name you would want to go i would.

[Drew Franklin]

Want to go cheer for them that.

[Matt Jones]

Would be weird well the the steelers get the win three and one but we do have to talk about aaron rodgers all right so he won the game but he gave in my opinion drew one of the most aaron rodgers of aaron rodgers quotes of all time are you ready for it he was talking about he wished the steelers had come to the city earlier apparently they just showed up on friday for the game on sunday and he said he wished they could have made a whole week of it because he wanted to go around ireland and here's what he said and this is one of the most pretentious quotes i've ever heard i have a family history here going back to ireland scotland so i've always wanted to get over here as folks may know i'm an historian so i kind of know the history both geo politically and other things in the area that's not a bs line i'm telling you guys it's the truth i'm also a huge fan of guinness i don't really drink beer but if i did i would drink guinness so i've heard it taste different in ireland so i really think i should have or i really wish i'd gotten to spend more time here now two points here first of all i'm a historian who says that like first of all historian is someone who presumably like is an expert on history is aaron rodgers just anointing himself that he's already said he was a scientist and like a vax person is.

[Drew Franklin]

He also an historian no has anyone ever thought of aaron rodgers as a historian great quarterback great quarterback but one person would say.

[Matt Jones]

One person would say i don't drink beer but i like guinness isn't that the most beery of.

[Drew Franklin]

All beers i will say the guinness tastes different over there i've been to the guinness storehouse i don't know i guess aaron rodgers doesn't get into booze but i can understand going to dublin and wanting to have a fresh guinness that is something you have to do.

[Matt Jones]

But is that like is it i'm not a beer person but isn't guinness like the heaviest of beers if you don't like beer how could you like.

[Drew Franklin]

Guinness it's definitely heavy the only reason if you were a non beer drinker and you wanted guinness was because you're in dublin like you don't just sit around craving a guinness it's the connection to ireland and if you want to go to one of their main tourist traps there but no i i don't think guinness is what you're reaching for if you're just an occasional beer drinker.

[Matt Jones]

Well aaron rodgers is three and one and i would like to congratulate him on not only having a winning record but also being an historian which i was which was not something i was aware of until today now let's go through some of one o' clock games you had the eagles win and probably the biggest game at one o' clock over the bucks both teams were three and oh eagles got out big early including a block punt that they returned for a touchdown second straight game they've blocked a kick of some sort and return for a touchdown baker mayfield nearly led a comeback he made some amazing plays down the stretch but the eagles get the win they're now four no they've basically beaten in the last last couple weeks the teams that they could end up tied with a lot of them great start for them but i you know the bucks did come away from me dr is like a real.

[Drew Franklin]

Contender yeah and you know with philly up so big even when tampa started chipping away at it in the second half i never really thought they'd win but a part of me perked up on the couch a little bit thinking it's mayfield about to lead another comeback because the first three games of the season he led comeback wins now you're playing the defending super bowl chance and he champs and he had a shot he threw a doing intercepts in the end zone late in the game down eight and then they had a turnover and downs later but it it it made for a very entertaining game and it was otherwise pretty boring in the first half with eagles up so much.

[Matt Jones]

Let'S say you don't root for a team is baker may in my opinion baker mayfield is maybe the most fun player outside of lamar if you don't care about the team just in terms of fun to watch in the nfl i think lamar is number one but i would say baker mayfield is number two do you agree with that i.

[Drew Franklin]

Completely agree he's obviously has the talent and he's really tapped into that again lately and revived his career but he's he's he's just got a little swagger and a little juice where you can't look away even you know if he if he hadn't ended up at cleveland i think he could even be have a better career than he has now we all realize that but he's been pretty marketable since he got drafted and now that they're pretty good and he's got pieces around him and they're so fun to watch he is like one of the more just guys you want to sit down and watch if they're in a certainly if they're in a close game and he can lead a.

[Matt Jones]

Comeback like this well he he was ranked we talked about this last episode is the fifth best quarterback currently in the nfl we kind of thought that was crazy but maybe it's not i mean maybe it's not i mean that was a great performance of course the eagles actually did win the game their defense is so dominant i actually thought tom brady did a really good job on the game today something i haven't said a lot when he's called these games i actually thought he did a really good job just showing the that the eagles make that no other team would make and they have like seven guys at various positions that can do.

[Drew Franklin]

It and now they're showing off they got up for a tush push today you know everybody surrounds it we know what's going to happen and then they run a little fake and hand it off to saquon barkley for a td so they're they're flexing a little baby they did two fake to it pushes today so no we already know they have the unstoppable play in football and now they're just toying with people when they line up to do that one.

[Matt Jones]

What was the debate this week about the tush push that people are all going off sides and then there's like maybe illegal defensive plays trying to do it the the my god here on this tour his name's lee he's a big rugby guy and he was trying to convince me that rugby was better than the nfl and we were watching the springboks the south african team was playing rugby yesterday and they do those scrums i mean you know what that is drew when like all those big hulky dudes just knock each other's shoulders and look like behemoths out there and it's to me like the most barbaric of things in sports but the tush push is kind of the nfl's version of that isn't is and i think.

[Drew Franklin]

People are getting annoyed because just the last couple weeks there's been super slow mo at the line of scrimmage where they there's a couple couple times the entire offensive line has fall started but others just one or two guys and they're not getting called so i think there's a frustration with look it's already unstoppable and now you're not even going to call it when they're false starting and it's make it even more unstoppable because there's been several examples of that but it's it's hard to call it and bang bang like that when they're all piled up.

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[Drew Franklin]

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[Matt Jones]

The giants end up getting their first win an upset on the chargers let's start with this drew you're next now the first person out of the nfl cover zero survivor league i tried to warn you against picking the chargers jackson darts first start they were at home this had all the makings to me of an upset you even bet on jackson dart to score a touchdown if you wish you remember that was billy's touchdown pick last week it worked and yet you still picked them and now you're out of the survivor league leaving me and billy.

[Drew Franklin]

I know tough loss for me thank you billy though for the jackson dart touchdown he scored like like one hundred and five today it was the first touchdown in any game we got that one out of the way but no it hurt leaving the survivor league i mean if i could go back in time they were still of my options it was the biggest point spread so i don't regret it no there were.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of that like this was in theory a tough day i mean i was trying to tell you to pick against your titans to pick the texans which we'll do in a second but still jackson dart i mean he didn't look great but he can run the ball and it's clear the crowd is much more excited about him being.

[Drew Franklin]

The quarterback knew when they signed russell wilson nobody wants russell wilson as their quarterback and they tried it anyway so if you're a giants fan even not knowing what jackson dart is it's like just please let us just see what the rookie is anything is better than watching russell wilson at the end of his career who who didn't even look like he wanted to win last week so as a fan you were just glad to hit reset today but then he looked good didn't didn't throw any interceptions he ran for over fifty yards including that touchdown run so sure i mean also you beat an unbeaten team i mean is it going to turn the giant season around i don't know but at least you have a rookie you can be excited about and it probably saved dable's job at least a.

[Matt Jones]

Little bit longer i'm trying to think who is like russell wilson is the if you're a fan of a team when the headline comes your team has signed russell wilson that's the worst headline you can see because you know you're spending a lot of money and he's not going to be good it's the worst it's like i don't know back i'm trying to think who the nba equivalent to that is is maybe james harden right you're gonna you sign him you know he's gonna take every shot you know it's gonna be boring and you know you're not gonna win a title i can't run except james harden's a whole lot better than russell wilson.

[Drew Franklin]

Is oh great we signed paul george off another injury that's that's about what.

[Matt Jones]

It is just a good one paul george is a really good really good call for that malik neighbors unfortunately tore his acl that stinks cause you could tell you know he finally gets a quarterback he feels like he'll throw in quarter the ball he gets hurt we need to officially alert the tv broadcasters they are showing i think an inordinate amount drew of jackson dart's mom on television we did see a lot of the darts a lot of there's a lot of jackson dart mom on television and you know i'm not telling producers what to do but i i i think you know if it's the kids first game which i guess today was i think showing his parents is okay but i'm getting the feel going to have taylor swift travis kelsey vibes in terms of amount shown of jackson darts mom that's just my initial pre this is my prediction for the giants this.

[Drew Franklin]

Year it it will be interesting to see cause they said first rookie start you know they usually show a parent in the crowd a few weeks ago they titan showed cam ward's dad going crazy in the aisle but if this continues i i'm ready to put taylor swift on the hot seat with you.

[Matt Jones]

I think i think the new i'm not saying they're in the same league she's going to be show she's gonna.

[Drew Franklin]

Be the new why is she on my tv show football that's gonna get everybody worked up they're gonna be bringing.

[Matt Jones]

Her in with big curtains in the.

[Drew Franklin]

Back where you can't get pictures of her before she's in her seat security will be everywhere we're heading that direction we gotta get out in front of.

[Matt Jones]

It well i'm gonna get if he keeps winning then i will i'll get you a cameo from jackson darts mom as a as my present for you for the giants getting their their first victory i'm gonna just say the texans beat the titans titans twenty six to nothing cam ward said after the game quote we asked drew franklin is the resident titans fan on the podcast what.

[Drew Franklin]

Are your thoughts that's my quarterback just call it like it is he said more than once that we ask it's not always what you want your quarterback to say in fact at one of the lines he said if i'm keeping it a buck we ask ass so i'm going to get my we keep.

[Matt Jones]

It a buck we asked that's like a thousand bucks they're so terrible though.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean they're so bad he had one fun cross body throw like he did a couple weeks ago in the first quarter that got us excited but there was nothing else to be excited about texans aren't good they owen three teams here and you get completely shut out and never even stood a chance it's going to be such a long season well there was one there was a fun moment today though a couple got married on the field of an o and three verse oh and three game so nothing says love like titans texans on a sunday they got married.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on they got married on the field like at halftime or something it.

[Drew Franklin]

Was a little before the game that shows you how much the titans and texans cared about this game like oh you couldn't find a wedding venue why don't you just use our field thirty minutes before kickoff.

[Matt Jones]

You got to get fan engagement how you can this is the well this is the literal way to get a fan engagement is to let them do it on the field that is a depressing that's a is.

[Drew Franklin]

That like a package you can buy they got like excited about our two.

[Matt Jones]

Browns fans that got married in the i was excited about the ones that got married in the parking lot this to me seems a little more depressing.

[Drew Franklin]

Drew yeah we had a we had an i do and a we ass at the at the titans texans game just exciting stuff football not so much.

[Matt Jones]

Those utils are usually things that should go together falcons and the commanders michael pinick junior played very well after they were after they were terrible last week comes out they get a win against marcus mariota who every time i see the gray it throws me off drew i mean maybe a little just for men just a little bit if you're going to be on playing on national.

[Drew Franklin]

Television i agree but i'm happy for him you know that's not kind of gray he's all the way gray but still out there throwing for a couple touchdowns they don't win the game but i am happy that marcus mario has a little life until jaden daniels comes back probably next week who is the.

[Matt Jones]

Oh he reminds me of have you ever seen those old pictures of the football player back in the fifties ya tittle yeah have you ever seen oh yeah that picture is marcus mariota our new ya tittle on his knees on the field like with a like a ball portion ring around his head is that his marcus mariota the new wide.

[Drew Franklin]

Title i think so we could just black and white his photo and add him to the collection but he's not playing like he's old it's just very unique for guy because he's i think he's only thirty one but it's it's completely gray i guess when you're used to be the quarterback of the titans.

[Matt Jones]

It ages you am i the first person to ever compare marcus mario to dwight no anyone else has ever done.

[Drew Franklin]

That i think that was on a scouting report out of oregon got a lot of ya tittle with him i.

[Matt Jones]

Do like when people try to argue that athletes back in the day were more athletic or better than they are now i just will show them the picture of w tiddle just i mean remember w tittle's a hall of famer that was a hall of famer back.

[Drew Franklin]

Then so there's one of george blanda too where if you were to just show someone a photo like if you if you didn't have the pads on and you say how old is he people would be like sixty five years old that is that is a seventy.

[Matt Jones]

Five he looks like a civil war general in that picture marcus mariota joining.

[Drew Franklin]

The conversation.

[Matt Jones]

There'S a lineage from from why tittle to george bland now to marcus marcus mariota good for him although they did lose the game falcons win this is is one of the things i've said for years there's no team on earth in any sport that you can predict last the results of their games drew than the falcons every game you think they're going to win they lose thirty to nothing like last week when you think they're going to lose they beat the commanders at home that's just what the fat they've been like that for like the last seven years.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah absolutely destroyed last week by the panthers and then turn around and win.

[Matt Jones]

This game game that's that's the way they are the saints beat the excuse me bills beat the saints thirty one nineteen saints hung with them played pretty well i think the reason is they said during the game that spencer rattler who billy told me before he's owen ten he's owen ten for his career he's the ninth quarterback in nfl history to start his career zero and ten i'm not so much surprised that spencer rattler is zero and ten but are you surprised that nine quarterback their career.

[Drew Franklin]

Owen ten i would think that starting your career zero and ten is about as bad as it could be and that you couldn't have anyone else in that conversation but to have nine others.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah that's surprising that is extremely surprising me but at least he has a lot of company i do think the reason they kept it close is they said during the game spencer rattler in the backup tyler schuck both celebrated their birthday today they are the only starter and backup in ten years in the nfl to share a birthday that's pretty randomized piece of trivia they said today during the game yeah here go lose.

[Drew Franklin]

To the bills on your birthday one one exciting thing for rattler is that one of the quarterbacks that went owen ten is troy aikman and warren moon so you okay warren moon also so maybe don't give up do you have.

[Matt Jones]

The names i'd like to see what are the names deshaun kai warren moon.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Both very good now keep going desean kaiser kaiser jack trudeau okay hang on.

[Matt Jones]

Don'T just run through these deshaun kaiser notre dame right isn't that where he.

[Drew Franklin]

Went yeah he's an easy one because i was going to say any cleveland brown is probably on this list and.

[Matt Jones]

He was okay so who who's next.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Jack trudeau who i'm not sure who.

[Matt Jones]

That is jack trudeau he hosted a nature show didn't he at some point i think he's the other person i've seen in the bush in south africa i don't i don't think i know who that is okay who's that stan.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Maybe also another one in the bush that you've seen over the last year.

[Matt Jones]

He was one of the wrestlers in wwe when the with the jobbers when hulk hogan would come out i'd go he's an opponent stan jellbaugh i just.

[Drew Franklin]

Looked up stan jellbaugh that dude sells insurance that's a i sell insurance haircut.

[Matt Jones]

Who where did he play where did.

[Drew Franklin]

Stan jellbaugh play in this picture he's in a seahawks uniform.

[Matt Jones]

Wow seahawk legend stan jellbaugh who else derek carr okay oh okay i mean yeah but he's playing i think he was on the.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Expansion yeah he's an expansion zach mettenberger.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh that's one of my guys tighten up i mean we asked zach nuttenberger he was he was our he was our future here recently he was a titan yeah he was the future yeah.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Former lsu tiger okay and then the finally brody croyle as the final quarterback to lose their first ten games i.

[Matt Jones]

Know that name who brody croyle where did he play in college he was back bama bama okay he was in that long line of like greg mcelroy aj mccarron those kind of guys well interesting company so your career can go one of two ways spencer when you start oh and ten it's up to you josh allen by the way really had not run the ball at all this year and the announcer i'm not sure who got stuck on the game but the the guy was doing color commentary he was like josh allen has not run the ball at all this year and i wonder if it's a concerted effort for the bills to save it to the playoffs and literally on the next play he drew he broke it for forty five yards good announcer announcer jinx it really was like the next play that he ran i was like oh poor guy you know he saved that fact and was ready for it and it gets busted drew one play later i was surprised that this.

[Drew Franklin]

Was even remotely a game in the second half because this was a sixteen and a half point spread and it was the saints biggest spread since nineteen seventy five that's what people thought of them heading to the sky there's such thing as a moral victory on spencer rattler and tyler schuck's birthday i guess.

[Matt Jones]

They got one is that how today's gonna be known and tyler schuck's birthday was actually also drew two girls on my trip's birthday as well shout out to sarah and and whoever the other one whose birthday was angie i think shout out to them as well for having their birthday you better hope they.

[Drew Franklin]

Don'T listen now she's gonna be upset you struggle with her name i don't.

[Matt Jones]

Think they listen i don't think there's one person on this trip that's a sports fan they kind of give me gave gave me that look when i said i did podcast they were like well that's nice for you or they.

[Drew Franklin]

Could be listening right now in the tent next to you as you're you're up doing this at midnight actually they're.

[Matt Jones]

That'S the better chance they're hearing it is they're hearing me right now talking about it lines beat the browns thirty four ten brown score on the first position do nothing the rest of the game and the same thing with the panthers and the patriots panthers score on the first possession and they end up losing four thousand two hundred thirteen lions were my survivor league pick we we stay with it the by the way billy's was the bills he got to stay as well james cook was also my touchdown pick he scored nico collins scored for billy patriots lines anything you cared about either of these two games.

[Drew Franklin]

The lions not so much just another blowout they're obviously going to be a contender in the nfc after struggling that first game patriots game drake may looked really good after there's been some questions about him had three touchdowns no turnovers completed almost every pass and then i enjoyed you know big mike variable guy i enjoyed just watching him put a big dip in in the middle of the game you know just missing that.

[Matt Jones]

Variable are you allowed to dip i don't you're allowed to dip in the middle of the game i'm surprised about.

[Drew Franklin]

That i thought there was a tobacco lob but there's no mistaking he's he's not hiding it he's just throwing in a big char right there throwing a big lip in right there in the.

[Matt Jones]

Middle of the game i don't remember tom landry taking a d up in the game that back in the day you know they did smoke cigarettes during the game but i kind of wonder if rabel gets fined i don't think you're allowed to chaw on national television.

[Drew Franklin]

As a coach and while he's chawing he gets caught yelling like that's bleep bleep bleep bleep and bleep so i don't think rabel's really caring yeah i mean there's no mistaking when he was yelling i can't say it on nfl cover zero but i don't think he's caring a lot about the carry and catching him on the sideline he's just he's just going to do him when you win like that i guess you.

[Matt Jones]

Can i think the coach that puts chawed his mouth you would think would win the award of sports figure that gave that cared about what people thought the least but what about the woman at the ryder cup leading the crowd in a chant of blank you rory and she got fired today before the finals how did she think that was going to be work was going to be allowed i love the energy of.

[Drew Franklin]

The ryder cup and making noise it makes it unique i know some people think it's over the top but the americans were way out of control this.

[Matt Jones]

Weekend they were out of line we.

[Drew Franklin]

Had that we had somebody actually hit rory's wife with a drink rory turn around tell him to shut the bleep up i i get it that we cheer usa it it gets a little out of hand this weekend but we went a little too far as american.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah we were obnoxious we were obnoxious we were we were bad i mean shane lowry i don't know if you saw when he made the putt to to to finish it out they said you know the next one's in ireland are you excited and he was like it'll be better than this it's on he just had a look like you disgusting long islanders but you know it was pretty bad i think that yesterday the saturday day especially drew not a high point for america in the way we reach out to the world maybe it's emblematic today but that was not.

[Drew Franklin]

Our best thing right on brand i just hated they made it somewhat close today got a little excitement but just never in it to really get into the ryder cup this year.

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[Matt Jones]

All right drew before we go to the four o' clock games you were upset about the rule from thursday night where the seahawks beat the cardinals you don't like the kick rules that ryan it's it was.

[Drew Franklin]

Just a bad way to end what was a great comeback i guess the rule is what it is you got to play within the rules but the cardinals had scored fourteen straight points to tie the game in the fourth it looks like we're heading over tom there's twenty eight seconds left but then they didn't kick the ball into the landing zone it landed like right at the twenty i mean it was inches away so the seahawks ended up getting the ball at the forty it's the equivalent of kicking it out of bounds and with twenty eight seconds left they hit a forty yard pass and then kick a game winning field goal so see.

[Matt Jones]

I i like that though i mean we're seeing it in the we saw it towards the end of the bears game today they do a kick you instead of it just going in the end zone and then it comes out to the they end up not you know the raiders return it get down the field i mean i like the kick return being part of the game again so if you're going to do that you have to enforce that rule.

[Drew Franklin]

Right yeah that's why the it's no longer it used to be just boom it out let's get a touchback and you know sometimes some teams will still do that and just take it at the thirty five but this new kickoff rule it was done for safety reasons obviously but it's gotten to where you've got to have a really skilled kicker kicker and you can get tactical trying to you know pin them back and it just in this case it backfired where if you don't get it inside that twenty yards you know your your opponent started near midfield and you know darnold hit jackson smith and jigba and then next thing you know there's a fifty two yard field goal and it's over when it looked like the cardinals had four stones it was just a.

[Matt Jones]

Unique end i'm for it i'm for it you got you got like it's it's if you're a professional kicker you should be able to kick it in a twenty yard zone you know it's not like they're asking them to kick it on a dime somewhere so i'm i'm for it i think the seahawks and the cardinals i mean no offense to those two teams but that's like the thursday night game that people see it and then they schedule something with their family right first of all again those two teams play each other every week so on a thursday night with that you go okay al kirk i will let you all have this one.

[Drew Franklin]

To yourselves and it wasn't even a good game until the cardinals scored late to come back i mean if you were seriously sitting down and watching that you know it's twenty to six in the fourth quarter didn't look like they'd be a game but a unique ending where i think it's the first time we have really seen the new kickoff rule have an impact the way it has i know cardinals fans were upset but i agree with you get you a kicker that can put it in there i mean the rules are the rules if you can't kick in a twenty yard zone go find a better kicker let's go to the four o'.

[Matt Jones]

Clock games we're going to bring in our guy billy he is known as mister four o' clock and he's going to give us the update on these because a lot of them were of kind kind of going on when we started recording this podcast so i guess we'll i start with the rams and the colts cause i do think well i guess start with the chiefs and the ravens that's the big story chiefs absolute domination billy right that's right thirty.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Seven to twenty kansas city gets their second win of the year meanwhile baltimore drops to one and three on the season lamar jackson pulled out of the game in the third quarter due to a hamstring injury we saw cooper rush for a short time but patrick mahomes was dealing back to his old self four touchdowns two hundred and seventy yards a great showing from one of the.

[Matt Jones]

Best of all time that looked like the chiefs team of the last few years really of the years before last year because their offense wasn't great last year but that and that they looked amazing they were dealing like hitting on all cylinders and you know they get a lot they get rashid rice back next week so now all of a sudden you can start to see a chiefs team that can be a contender now the ravens on the other hand one and three and their defense can't stop anybody i mean it's a it's a real strange thing for people of our age drew who grew up with the ravens having a good defense every single year no matter what and their their defense this year is just awful.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah marlon humphrey got one of the better defensive backs in the league he got torched by xavier worthy who came back this week from being injured early in the game it's also weird the ravens like derek henry only ran the ball eight times including there was a fourth and one where they didn't use him it's almost like the ravens are doing a load management day early this early in the season on henry even though they're one and three day to do it but like why do you not derek henry eight rushes forty yards i mean you i don't i know you're down most the game but it's derek henry give him the damn ball so you know i didn't expect cooper rush to have thirteen pass attempts that's jackson's injury but it just it seemed like the ravens tapped out as that game went on because the chiefs went up early and didn't look it was mahomes first time in two years having a game of four touchdown passes yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I was i was just really surprised by the whole by the performance i picked the ravens to win but i thought no matter what it would be one of those ravens chiefs games that comes down the stretch but the chiefs absolutely dominated when you see cooper rush come in that's not a good sign for whatever team that's happening to but i don't know you know two and two two chief schedule was tough to start the season they get some weeks here coming up i think after next week where they have some easier games we might be looking up here week eleven or twelve and they're eight and three and you're going oh there's this there's the chiefs again what's next the.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Colts lost for the first time this season twenty seven to twenty to the los angeles rams both teams are now three and one on the season is a back and forth game a big moment when colts receiver ad mitchell dropped the ball before he went across the goal line that could have made a big difference in this game but the colts were how do people still do.

[Matt Jones]

This i mean unbelievable this happens this happens once a season and it is crazy to me drew that they still do this after all these years i don't even understand how it's an issue like run to the back of the end zone before you do it it just makes no sense to me and.

[Drew Franklin]

I really think it changed the could be the entire outcome of this game the colts were down thirteen ten and daniel jones hits him for a seventy five yard pass it was an amazing run after the catch he broke tackles gets all the way down to the two yard line and once with one hand to stick the ball out and then it just loses it goes out for the touchback it's like can you not wait two more yards to celebrate you fought so hard to get there you're about to go up on the rams in la and you cannot hold on to the football for another it.

[Matt Jones]

Would have been a heck of a win now i do think even even though put that aside i do think the colts show you so a lot in this i mean they're three and oh there was a sense that you could go well you know they didn't really beat anybody and whatever and now you know i mean to go on have a road game a game they probably should have won the rams they're still my sleeper super bowl contender still love them puka nuku had a couple big catches you had a the two two at well so it showed some explosiveness i still think they're very dangerous but for me the story of the game is the colts and dr dropping the football which there would you would you cut a guy if he drops yes how bad do you have to be before you cut them i can't.

[Drew Franklin]

Believe that there's so many examples of this happening every every season this which should be absolutely humiliate humiliating seeing it one time if i'm you know i would never be in their position because i'm not talented enough but if i am that close to scoring a touchdown i'm confident i can hold on to the ball in the bread you can hold on for another half second and then i'll do my big celebration but it's just so costly being down three there would have been an explosive play to go up on the rams and completely flip the game even though it was just the first half and daniel jones he has two interceptions one of them was kind of late throwing it up at the end it was his first pick of the year earlier in the game but i still think daniel jones might be for real even though this is a loss he looked good.

[Matt Jones]

He'S a comeback player he's comeback player of the year so far for sure and this is the first time they had to punt so you know they that streak ends what's next jaguars and.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

The forty nine ers played in the four o' clock the jaguars the jack jacksonville jags is what we'll call them.

[Matt Jones]

Here first you said jag wires i don't think i've ever that's what that's what he said drew did he not.

[Drew Franklin]

Catch it i know this is a lot of people i want you to.

[Matt Jones]

Hit the reader rewind fifteen seconds i say jaguars which is not what most people say drew how do you say.

[Drew Franklin]

It jacksonville jaguars how did i say.

[Matt Jones]

That jaguar you say it like me i've never heard jaguars well regardless they.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Got the win today twenty six to.

[Drew Franklin]

Twenty one jacksonville jaguars actually i've probably said that a few times it's like the kentucky version it's got a little twang in it jaguars oh it's like.

[Matt Jones]

Jacksonville jaguar you know what i'm actually.

[Drew Franklin]

I probably said it that way several several times too jaguar jaguar jaguars all.

[Matt Jones]

Right i like it but go ahead tell me what happened with them jaguars.

[Billy (Mister Four O'Clock)]

Regardless the jags had a big punt return touchdown they were up seventeen to six at half i mean san francisco can't stay healthy pierce all was in the medical tent juan jennings got hurt at one point you know purdy's thrown to himself out there but san francisco did had four turnovers in the game jacksonville had a sack force fumble at the end to pull it out twenty six to twenty do you think injuries.

[Matt Jones]

Are luck or when a team has two straight years of insane injury situations on the forty nine ers is there some point where you start to go there's got to be some commonality here.

[Drew Franklin]

Hey i'm i'm with you on that one it's it's been too many it's been a lot of like playmaking receivers also their whole receiver room has been injured this season it just last year they were like the most injured team team ever this year we're four weeks in and they're about to be the most injured team ever again that can't.

[Matt Jones]

Be coincidence well let's talk about jacksonville cause i am in on jacksonville i was in on them from the beginning of the season liam cohen who was at kentucky i think is a good offensive mind trevor lawrence starting to show why he was a top pick their defense was actually has been good for the last couple of years they got a lot of guys who can make plays i think they're going to win that division i mean i think you're in on them too aren't you yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean that division is terrible which will actually help their record because they're going to get a lot of wins just having to play the titans texans.

[Matt Jones]

But this is a good win you beat the with with purdy i don't.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't see them making any kind of playoff run but even if they were in another division i see them competing for a playoff bid because i think they are a competitive team and we'll keep seeing them in games like this and travis hunter we've kind of wondered what he'll be he looks great as a receiver today they there was a throw where lawrence was you know backed up into their own end zone he throws it thirty yards down the middle of the field and hunter really stretched out and got it so he and brian thomas junior are looking like some weapons for them too the owner.

[Matt Jones]

Of the jaguars said or as some people say jaguars the owner of the jaguars said after the first game we now win forever and he so far is correct three and one and they're going to win forever in jacksonville and then just in ending my bears block a kick at the end to win in las vegas massive win i've the last few years the bears have lost that game every way possible they block a kick drew in a way that i've often wondered why more people don't do they blocked it from the edge if you go look at how the guy lined up he was lined up way to the outside and he just got ahead of steam and blocked it before really he could be touched i've always thought that was a way you could get more block kicks and it worked and he blocked it by a lot i mean he was he almost flew past the ball yeah and that's.

[Drew Franklin]

Good for the bears but also what's up with these games the last two weeks with all these block field goals i know you're mentioning they had that tactic but we're blocking field goals in every which way there were three or four a week ago and then here in this second round of afternoon games i mean that might be the plan.

[Matt Jones]

It'S a good question you've seen more block field goals there have been a couple block puns i don't know what the record is but anecdotally it does feel like there are a lot more blocks and a lot more blocks that are like significant not just tipping it but like blocking it in the case last week returning it the bears block was a like you know not blocked it completely i do wonder if something happened during the off season with special teams that they figured out ways to get you know creative blitzes but you're you were i know we're seeing more of it this year than we have in the past yeah these these two.

[Drew Franklin]

Weeks have been wild lately i i guess it'll keep up to whatever was behind the trend but the question is are you are you behind your trend of now was this two wins in a row are you talking yourselves into.

[Matt Jones]

It i'm in i'm in on the bears being improved i don't know how for me this year for the bears was one thing is caleb williams an nfl you can win with starting quarterback and i'm not ready to say yes yet but i'm getting closer i thought he was great today they could they should have scored more than they did i mean they got stopped in the red zone a few times ended up with field goals but he made a lot of really good decisions i think you can see the effect ben johnson's had on him he does he's so good at sort of sensing pressure now all these hits he took last year he's not taken this year so yeah i mean i you know i don't maybe they make the playoffs but i'm i'm actually becoming into yes caleb williams can be good in the nfl and.

[Drew Franklin]

He'S got good pieces around him roma duduze had a big game i've mentioned many times i'm a big luther burden fan so if williams does pan out you've you've got a good offensive coach already you call it could be end up being a really fun team moving.

[Matt Jones]

Forward what i mean you could end up with a scenario where that draft class two years ago at quarterback is historic i mean jaden daniels we know is good bo nix i keep waiting to fail but he's been good good drake may has been much improved in the last week or two and then you know jj mccarthy has had at least one very good game even though this is really his first season playing if you throw caleb in the mix you know you get five and then michael pennock's junior yeah i mean you get six guys i mean let's just assume one or two of them don't pan out you get four really good starters out of a college recruiting class that's pretty impressive especially since no offense to kate ward you might not get one out of that this one yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean that whole draft class could be the whole future with all those guys you named and then of course you know spencer rattler might be owing ten right now but as we don't give up on spencer rattler yet he could join that group too well i.

[Matt Jones]

Don'T know we'll see maybe but but nevertheless i'm i'm positive on caleb so that's a good sign now the next time you hear from me i will be back back in kentucky we'll be doing a show again this week make sure you subscribe if you haven't yet we have a five star perfect rating on spotify i think we're like a four nine on apple so the few people that were you know being contrarians on apple i'm not gonna hold it personally but you know what we i i see you but for everybody else thank you very much for keeps rising in the charts thanks for listening i'm now going to let my neighbors sleep this has been nfl cover zero nfl cover zero with matt jones and drew franklin is a production of the nfl and iheart podcast for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts in.

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