NFL Cover Zero: Super Bowl Plans and NFL Week 8!

Summary

NFL Cover Zero: Super Bowl Plans and NFL Week 8 (October 23, 2025)

Podcast: KSR
Hosts: Matt Jones & Drew Franklin (w/ producer Billy)
Theme: NFL Week 8 preview, Super Bowl halftime show reactions, funny NFL banter, and news across the league
Tone: Lighthearted, banter-filled, humorous, but sports-savvy

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Episode Overview

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin deliver a lively breakdown of the NFL heading into Week 8. Beyond picks and game previews, they dive into family football moments, Super Bowl halftime debate, the quirks of NFL fandom, and the latest league news. With their Kentucky flair, the crew both analyze the week's storylines and riff on the oddities that make pro football so enjoyable.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

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1. The Sports Equinox & Parlay Bet (00:04–03:59)

• Sports Equinox: All four major sports (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) play on the same day this week (Monday).
  • Drew’s take: “Great day for gambling. I like to do a parlay with one random thing from all the sports involved.” (01:17)
• Impromptu KSR Parlay for listeners (NFL: Commanders +12.5, NBA: 76ers +4.5, MLB: Dodgers ML, NHL: Blues ML).
• Fun offer: If the parlay hits, Matt offers “five free wings” at their bar for listeners who say a code word.
  • Matt: “If you get the 76ers, Commanders, Blues, Dodgers parlay, all of you in America can have five free wings from Matt Jones at KS Bar… Is it worth me flying from Seattle? The answer is yes.” (03:40)

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2. Family Football & Detroit Fandom (04:14–08:54)

• Watching games with parents: Matt talks about how his folks watch football (“Where are those places? Detroit and Tampa Bay?”) and how it gives a new perspective.
• Lions Fans: Discussion about costume-heavy Detroit crowds.
  • Drew: “It’s the dudes that just left the steel mill to get into their Lion’s costume for the game.” (07:04)

Notable Quote

• Matt: “Do they have any ambivalence about their decision? Or is it just like, this is what we do?” (07:19)
• Drew: “If you’re committing to the bit that much…that’s part of their personality.” (07:36)

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3. NFL Week 8 – Key Games and Quarterback MVP Race (09:09–12:02)

• Lions as NFC favorites? Both agree Detroit looks legit except for a Week 1 letdown.
• Buccaneers cool down: Mike Evans’ injury is discussed (“collarbone/clavicle” confusion and medical lingo banter).
• Quarterback MVP Odds rundown: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Drake Maye, Stafford—Daniel Jones respected but underappreciated at the betting window.
  • Billy (Producer): “It’s Mahomes at +125. Josh Allen at +360. Baker at +700. Drake May at +800. Stafford at +1000.” (09:50)
  • Drew: “Daniel Jones has the second highest quarterback rating in the NFL. It’s not like he’s just out…” (11:19)

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4. Viral Moments, NFL News, and Security Tangents (13:01–18:01)

• Monday Night Football, Baseball, and Gilded Age TV show compete for host attention.
• Viral moment: “Referee shields Seahawks’ Jackson Smith-Njigba from altercation” (13:31)
• Best/Worst Security of the Week: Referee as heroic vs. Louvre’s ‘no confrontation’ policy (“Why have security guards?” – Matt, 15:14)
• Kroger/retail chain policies: Drew recounts letting shoplifters go per corporate rules (15:38–16:03)
• Humor: What would hosts do if a “robber” tried to kidnap Drew from the studio?
  • Matt: “I would run out of the door like the Louvre…Company policy is non confrontational. You win, you can take Drew…” (16:36)

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5. Super Bowl Halftime & Pro Bowl News (18:07–25:38)

• Bad Bunny confirmed as Super Bowl Halftime show: Roger Goodell not reconsidering.
  • Drew: “I can’t remember a Super Bowl party where someone’s not complaining about the musical.” (18:45)
  • Matt: “Who would be the most universally liked person to play? Maybe Prince, in hindsight.” (19:15)
• No musical act is safe from complaints. Prince, Dolly Parton, MJ, JLo, and Shakira debates.
• Pro Bowl Activities now folded into Super Bowl Week. Both approve: makes the Pro Bowl relevant, more fun, less anticlimactic.

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6. Jets QB Carousel, NFL Week 8 Matchups, Injury Updates (27:06–32:28)

• Jets still searching for a QB:
  • Tyrod Taylor questionable, options could include Justin Fields or even “someone else.”
  • Running joke: Joe Flacco as the stand-in QB for every needy team.
• Injury update: Chiefs’ Jaden Daniels out vs. Jets, making game a 12.5-point spread.

Hair Blend Banter

• Marcus Mariota cuts/blends his hair, which sparks jokes about “the blend” and barbers wielding passive-aggressive dye jobs based on tip and conversation. (29:04–32:18)
  • Drew: “I could rock a silver fox if I had to…If I need to.” (31:29)
  • Matt: “When you start getting gray chest hairs…that’s a humbling moment.” (32:05)

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7. League News with Billy—Quick Hits (32:28–49:39)

Russell Wilson vs. Sean Payton (32:28–36:30)

• Sean Payton throws a subtle jab at Russell Wilson (wishing “change” came later)—Wilson claps back on Twitter: “Classless… still bounty hunting 15+ years later. Let’s ride.”
  • Hosts declare Russell the winner: “Sean Payton looks like an 80s movie bully… but with that said, he was telling the truth!” (35:16)

Locker Room “Distractions” (37:20–39:36)

• Ravens remove ping-pong and video games from locker room after going 1–5.
  • “Are they playing that much ping-pong?” – Drew (37:54)
  • Both hosts think it’s more PR than football.

Steelers’ Field Woes (39:40–43:38)

• Mike Tomlin joke: “I ain’t cut my grass in a long, long time. I coach football. I’m a stay in my lane. I don’t even know who cuts my grass.”
  • Matt: “If I was the guy cutting his grass, you could at least know my name. My name’s Bob.” (40:05)
• Discussion of bad NFL fields; preference for grass for the “mud and drama.”

Dre Greenlaw’s Ref Run-in (45:08–47:10)

• Denver LB suspended after chasing down a ref after winning. "Dude, chill!" (45:42)

Browns backup QB news (47:43–49:32)

• Shadur Sanders not getting starter reps. Dylan Gabriel holding job. Hype isn't translating.

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8. Picks & Parlay Time (49:39–54:01)

Liberty Mutual “Victory Bundle”

• Three picks:
  • Bears +6.5 at Ravens
  • Cowboys +3.5 at Denver
  • Steelers +3.5 vs. Packers
• All road underdogs: “Liberty Mutual Road Dog Victory Bundle!” (52:04–52:18)
• Hosts 2–1 last week, aiming to improve.

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9. Around the NFL Week 8: Quick Previews (52:48–56:14)

• Thursday Night: Vikings at Chargers – Both teams underperforming; Chargers’ O-line under scrutiny.
• Jets/Bengals: Who starts at QB? Flacco fits well if it's him.
• Dolphins/Falcons: “Falcons destroy them, Mike McDaniel keeps his job.”
• Bills/Panthers: “Red Rocket” (Andy Dalton) back again; watch for an upset.
• Giants/Eagles: Upset possibility?
• Bucs/Saints: Matt’s “sad pick of the week” is the Saints winning.

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10. Listener Engagement: Stadium Bucket List (60:42–66:22)

• Question: Which three NFL stadiums would each like to visit?
  • Matt: Buffalo (“the whole vibe”), Detroit (loud fandom), Cleveland (to soak in the communal misery).
  • Drew: Jerry World (Cowboys), Buffalo (“have to get to Buffalo”), Las Vegas (for the party/NFL combo).
  • Billy: Lambeau (“never been”), SoFi (“pinnacle of technology”), Santa Clara/San Francisco.
  • Also discussed: least-favorite stadiums (Nissan Stadium, Miami for lack of atmosphere, Jacksonville for the hot tubs).

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Notable Quotes & Funny Moments

• On bad gambling bets: "If you get the 76ers, Commanders, Blues, Dodgers parlay, all of you in America can have five free wings from Matt Jones at KS Bar… Is it worth me flying from Seattle? The answer is yes." (03:40, Matt)
• On Detroit fandom: "Cosplay. Yeah, it's usually they have… the cowardly lion out there and a full lion garb. And the best part is it's not like the young people. It's the coolest people. It's the dudes that just left the steel mill to get into their Lion's costume for the game." (07:04, Drew)
• Company policy on shoplifters: "So I feel like the Lou has… Trouble just for going. They're very adamant about do not get involved at this particular chain." (15:57, Drew)
• On Super Bowl halftime complaints: “I can’t remember a Super Bowl party where someone’s not complaining about the musical.” (18:45, Drew)
• On Russell Wilson’s reply to Sean Payton: “I generally think Russell Wilson is one of the lamer sports figures of all time. With that said, I’m kind of with him on this one.” (33:17, Matt)
• On Mike Tomlin never cutting his grass: "If I was the guy cutting his grass, I'd be like, you could at least know my name. My name's Bob, okay?" (40:05, Matt)
• On aging: “If you go too far, we all know…the people whose hair is now jet black. Like, you can go too far.” (30:10, Drew)
• On the hot tubs in Jacksonville: “Get me in there with, like, 13 strangers watching the game.” (65:39, Billy)

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Timestamps for Highlights

• 00:04 – Sports Equinox discussion & NFL Cover Zero parlay
• 04:14 – Family football, Detroit fandom
• 09:09 – Lions/Bucs analysis, MVP race, injury news
• 13:01 – Seahawks viral scramble, NFL sideline security tangent
• 18:07 – Bad Bunny Super Bowl halftime confirmation debate
• 24:16 – Pro Bowl festivities move to Super Bowl week
• 27:06 – Jets’ QB woes, Joe Flacco jokes
• 32:28 – Russell Wilson vs. Sean Payton drama
• 37:20 – Ravens ban ping-pong, video games
• 39:40 – Steelers’ grass field woes, best/worst NFL surfaces
• 45:08 – Dre Greenlaw chases ref after win, hosts disbelief
• 47:43 – Shadur Sanders vs. Dylan Gabriel at Browns
• 49:39 – Victory Bundle and Week 8 picks
• 60:42 – Audience Q: Top stadiums bucket list

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Conclusion

KSR’s NFL Cover Zero brings NFL Week 8 to life with deep dives, irreverent humor, and genuine football fandom. Whether debating Bad Bunny, dissecting MVP odds, or joking about painted Detroit heads and grass blends, Matt, Drew, and Billy mix expert commentary with personality-driven energy. This episode’s perfect for any NFLer who loves the game on and off the field.

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Note: Advertisement and sponsor reads, as well as superfluous extras, have been omitted from this summary.

Transcript

[Podcast Announcer]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Matt Jones]

NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. All right, another week here. NFL cover zero, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin ready to go. It is week eight of the NFL season. It is a beautiful day where we are in Kentucky. Drew is wearing his green. I've got on blue. And, you know, sitting here looking at the slate of games coming this week. Huge spreads. But that doesn't mean there's not a lot to talk about.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, any day we get to watch the NFL is a great Sunday. But you're right. This week. Good for you. All that are still in the survivor League pool because most of these spreads are about as big as you'll see in the NFL.

[Matt Jones]

You should be able to survive in the. In the. In the survivor leagues. We're about to hit the sports equinox this weekend. Sports Equinox, I believe, is Sunday. It will be the only day of the year. Or, excuse me, Monday. It's going to be Monday. The only day of the year where all four major sports will be playing at the same time. Are you excited about that?

[Drew Franklin]

Very excited. Great day for gambling. I like to do a parlay with one random thing from all. All of the sports involved. So it's a good day to get chaotic and consume as much as you can.

[Matt Jones]

You like a good sports equinox parley. So what are you gonna. What are you gonna pick? I mean, let's. Well, here. I'll tell you what. I'm gonna pull up the Monday schedules.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

This was not. This isn't on the plan. Billy, our producer is going crazy because he doesn't have the Chirons for this. So let's just go through. We're gonna pick. This is gonna be the NFL cover zero parlay. Commanders. Chiefs. Two Chiefs are a 12 and a half point favorite. That'll be your NFL one. Which one you like?

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, so we're just doing spread.

[Matt Jones]

I was.

[Drew Franklin]

I get crazy. Like Vlad Jr. Over 20 and a half rushes. Command example of the schedule head. These spreads are so big.

[Matt Jones]

12 and a half a lot. I'm going to say the commanders cover. Let's say the commanders cover the 12 and a half. All right, now we got to do an NBA one. I'm just going to pick the game. You pick the result. Okay. 76ers at Celtics. Celtics are a four and a half point favorite at home.

[Drew Franklin]

Home.

[Matt Jones]

No Jason Tatum. Also no Paul George. Probably who knows about Joel Embiid.

[Drew Franklin]

76Ers cover the four and a half.

[Matt Jones]

See, I didn't like that one. All right, so we're taking two so far.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm just doing dogs.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so we're taking road teams. Then we're going to have Dodgers, Blue Jays. This game will be in la.

[Drew Franklin]

Betting against the Dodgers seems crazy. I'm done taking underdogs. Dodgers, Dodgers.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, they can't lose, so you're going to take the Dodgers. So we. Right now we have Dodgers, Celtics, Commanders, and then NHL. If there's one thing not to bet on, it's the NHL only two games. So I'm going to give you the Blues and the Penguins.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't have enough time in the day to break down this game as much as I'd like to, but I will say Mario, bread hole, big bread hole guy. Got to go with the St. Louis Blues.

[Matt Jones]

St. Louis Blues. All right, so there you go. Your Blues commanders, 76ers, Dodgers parlay. If we win that on NFL Cover 0, I will all of our listeners, I will give you a free coupon for wings to K.S. bar and Lexi.

[Drew Franklin]

But see, the conversation we just had is why the Equinox is so fun.

[Matt Jones]

No, you get everything over. You're skipping over what is a great offer.

[Drew Franklin]

The wings.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I'm saying to you, if we get all of those, if you get the 76ers Commander's Blues, Dodgers parlay, all of you in America can have five free wings from Matt Jones at ksbar. Now, some of you may be like, is it worth me flying from Seattle to do that? The answer is yes.

[Billy (Producer)]

Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

It will be.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, no drive if you don't want to fly.

[Matt Jones]

So five free wigs if we get it. But you have to. But. Well, actually, you don't even have to show. You bet it. If we just win. It's a celebration.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. If you come in and name drop this, we know you were listening.

[Matt Jones]

I know you were listening.

[Drew Franklin]

Perfect.

[Matt Jones]

So let's. We will root that on. On the Equinox. Drew. Monday Night Football last night or last week, I guess Monday. Lions and Bucks. I watched this game with my parents. It is always exciting to watch a game. My parents were in town, stayed at my house. I like watching games with my parents. First of all, we have long conversations about who's playing. And at least with Larry, I have to remind him throughout the game who's playing. So I said, lions are playing the Bucks. And both of my parents said, where are those places? And I had to say, well, it's Detroit and Tampa Bay. And then Larry said, I went to Detroit in 1966. And I said, so does that mean you're for Detroit? And he said, not necessarily.

[Drew Franklin]

Still weighing it out. Let's see the defense.

[Matt Jones]

We never got a pick, though, throughout the game. So he went to Detroit in 1966, but that didn't mean he was going to commit to them.

[Drew Franklin]

But what you did, Monday night's example of how family fun. You don't have to know the rosters. You can sit down and enjoy Monday Night Football. Maybe two Monday Night Footballs, if you're interested.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. And my mom also. There was a play where I don't remember what happened, but she just looked at me and goes, well, that doesn't seem fair. I think. I think one person pulled down the other one and there was no flag. My mom said, that doesn't seem fair. So I like watching sports with my parents. They're not the biggest sports fans. And you get like a different perspective on the game.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, well, they, they picked a good matchup to watch. I was really excited to watch that game. The outcome wanted it to be a little closer. But for a Monday night game, getting the two NFC contenders is still a lot of fun.

[Matt Jones]

Detroit, though, dominated the game. I mean, that was one of those, you know, I think people slept on Detroit because they got crushed in the first week. We always tend to give too much emphasis to what happens in week one, but Detroit looked like Detroit in that game. And do you now have them as your favorites in the nfc?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I mean, it's the one game you mentioned the season where they had question marks, but they've answered the bell in every game but one since. Looking very good. The Bucks, I've been waiting for them to take a drop. I'm not going to call this a big decline because you're at Detroit, one of the best teams in the league. But it was. The Bucks did need a cooling off because they had been out of their mind for several weeks. Probably playing above what they really are, even though I still think they're good.

[Matt Jones]

Do you. Do you agree with me that Detroit games, there's always at least one person that has painted his bald head half silver, half blue. They lead the amount of people the league in bald heads painted in half colors.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Costumes, cosplay. Detroit's your place.

[Matt Jones]

Cosplay.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it's usually they have. They have like.

[Matt Jones]

You think it's cosplay?

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

If you don't see like the costumes they wear, they got like the cowardly lion out there and a full lion garb. I mean, they really get into it. And the best part is it's not like the young people. It's the coolest people. It's the dudes that just left the steel mill to get into their lion's costume for the game.

[Matt Jones]

I often wonder, like, when those people are coming to the game. Let's say they stop and get gas, you know, and they're just wearing a lion's head or their face is painted. Do they have any sort of. Any ambivalence about their decision? Or is it just like, this is what we do?

[Drew Franklin]

I think if you're committing to the bit that much, going to a game in public like that, you're fine walking into McDonald's and picking up your cheeseburger on the way. Just being a part of society. Even though you're dressed like a lion or the big legion to doom shoulder pads or whatever you have on, I just think that's part of their personality.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, they went up winning the game. Mike Evans broke his. Is it his clavicle?

[Billy (Producer)]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Now, what is a clavicle?

[Billy (Producer)]

I think it's your collarbone.

[Matt Jones]

So why don't they say collarbone?

[Billy (Producer)]

Well, that's, I guess, the medical term, maybe. Or hard.

[Matt Jones]

Are you sure that's true, that they're not different things? I'm not sure they are the same.

[Drew Franklin]

So you say it's a nerd term for collarbone.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. So it's like contusion instead of bruise. Right. When you want to be nerdy, call it a clavicle. Well, you said he's not out for the year, though?

[Billy (Producer)]

No, he said he could come back at the very end of the year, but for Bucks fans, that's not really good enough. We need him to get a thousand yards to break Jerry Rice's record, so.

[Matt Jones]

Sounds like he's not going to.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, it doesn't sound like it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he. He. He was on the field for a while. It looked kind of bad. It looked kind of bad. I'm glad. Honestly. It's only a collar boner, as we medical professionals call it a clavicle. But if anybody can handle it, it's Tampa. That feels like they have a million of these guys, right? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I'd say if you go back to draft night, they're real happy with their pick right now. Knowing that Mike Evans is out. They got a young rookie that's been playing well in his place, but still, losing Mike Evans has been a big part of that offense for so long, it. It's not a good thing. Todd Bowles said they're hopeful he'll be back by the end of the year, but it's a long term deal.

[Matt Jones]

Are you still Baker Mayfield is the mvp or now are you flirting in another direction? There's a lot of. A lot of possibilities. Mahomes. Daniel Jones is out there making some noise. I mean, what do you have?

[Drew Franklin]

I think Daniel Jones is my guy. I said this last week before we.

[Matt Jones]

Look up, look up the odds. I'd like to see what the odds are. I would. I'm going to guess Mahomes is still the favorite, but I would think Daniel Jones is like third now behind Mahomes and Baker.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I bet Josh Allen's high just because people expect the Bills to turn it on. And he's Josh Allen. But Daniel Jones needs to be in the conversation. This is not a fluky six and one.

[Billy (Producer)]

It's my homes at plus 125. Josh Allen at plus 360. Baker at plus 700. Drake May at plus 800. Stafford at plus 1000.

[Matt Jones]

Where's Daniel Jones?

[Drew Franklin]

I'd put Daniel Jones above Drake.

[Billy (Producer)]

May 2500 behind.

[Matt Jones]

That's crazy.

[Billy (Producer)]

Golf and Prescott, they have the best record in football.

[Matt Jones]

How is he behind Jared Goff? Like he's 6 and 1. They have the best record and they were awful, I guess, people. Well, where's Jonathan Taylor? Is he on the list?

[Billy (Producer)]

He is at plus 6,000 behind Sam Darling.

[Matt Jones]

Between Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor, I can. Can't get anybody better than 25 to 1.

[Billy (Producer)]

You can get Lamar Jackson at +3500.

[Drew Franklin]

Stop it and come on.

[Billy (Producer)]

And Jonathan Taylor +6000.

[Matt Jones]

I can't believe you. Okay, let's. Let's go through those. Josh Allen. I guess if they went out, people want to give it to Josh Allen. Fair enough. Who'd you say was third?

[Billy (Producer)]

Baker plus 700.

[Matt Jones]

I'm okay with that. Drake may still feel like plus 700 is pretty good odds for Baker. Drake May. No, Drake May does not get to win.

[Drew Franklin]

No, he's been awesome. He is not above Daniel Jones.

[Billy (Producer)]

Then you have Stafford at plus 1000 and then no Golf at plus 1800.

[Matt Jones]

No, no.

[Billy (Producer)]

Dak at plus 2000.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I actually think Dak has a better case than some of these other guys. The problem is they're going to lose too many games for Dak. But if you're just talking about how he's played, I mean, Dak has a jer. Golf at plus 1800 is criminal.

[Drew Franklin]

Daniel Jones has the second highest quarterback rating in the NFL. It's not like he's just out first. Dak Dax been insane. Yeah, but I mean, he's on a six win team and he's doing that. He's not turning it over. You can add in the whole comeback story from leaving New York. I hate the Colts, but you have to tip your cap to what they've done and what Daniel Jones has done this year.

[Matt Jones]

If they did the voting this week, Mahomes would win. But I think Baker or Daniel Jones would come in second, wouldn't they?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I would say absolutely.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Because Josh Allen, you're just assuming the Bills are going to turn it on and probably win out, lose one or two and be in the AFC championship. But in this moment, Daniel Jones has answered every test and they would have beaten the Rams if not for the guy not holding on to the ball at the end zone. They could be undefeated right now.

[Matt Jones]

That is amazing to me. I did not watch the late game. I'm going to go ahead and tell you, even though we are an official NFL podcast, endorsed. Well, can I say that we're endorsed by the NFL.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm looking at the logo. Right.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, we'll say Roger Goodell. We talk a lot and like he's like, he's a huge fan of what we do.

[Billy (Producer)]

We work for the NFL.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I mean, this is basically an NFL extension.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll see him at the Christmas party coming up for me. You think we'll get to Christmas? Yeah, maybe we'll draw rods in the.

[Matt Jones]

Gift to Christmas party. Oh, you think they do a Santa exchange?

[Drew Franklin]

We're probably in that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I want to get, I want to get Jerry Jones. I have a lot of things I could get him, but I didn't watch the Seahawks, Texans. Matter of fact, I didn't watch one play when I went to bed. I think it was 14 to nothing. I woke up and saw it was like what, 26, 19. I'm going to assume it was awesome, but I can't even tell you what happened. Was there anything I missed that mattered?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I made the commitment to step and watch it.

[Matt Jones]

Because you're an NFLA.

[Drew Franklin]

Exactly. Football's on my TV. It takes priority.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Once it got to 14. Oh. In the first quarter and those eyelids started getting heavy, you know, if it's close game, I'd fight him. I might even stand up, walk around the house. But I surrendered to those eyelids as the game went on.

[Matt Jones]

And there was also, to be fair, great baseball. I mean, it was game seven, Mariners, Blue Jays. I mean, that's pretty big. And you know, Gilded Age. I mean, there's a lot of things happening that take that, take precedent.

[Drew Franklin]

There was a viral moment. Did you see Jackson, Smith and Jigba when he was on the bench, like, getting beat up by the other team? And the ref kind of hugs him and just becomes like a shield for him?

[Matt Jones]

I saw that. So why was he getting beat up? I saw the video and it looked like the. We all need a friend. As good as that ref was for Jackson, Smith and Jigba, why was he getting beat up?

[Drew Franklin]

Typical scrum. I don't know what actually started it. Did you have the moment that set them?

[Billy (Producer)]

He was on the other side.

[Drew Franklin]

Once you get trapped in there, he.

[Billy (Producer)]

Was on the Texas sideline and you need to get out.

[Matt Jones]

Why was he sitting on the bench?

[Billy (Producer)]

He just pushed over.

[Drew Franklin]

That kind of the play took him that way. And then when you're on the other sideline with no help, all bets are off. However, that's when that ref came in above and beyond the call of duty.

[Matt Jones]

I agree.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like he didn't have to do that. He's a neutral party. He could have said, jackson, what happened to you? I'm over here observing, but like Secret Service through it, just covered it.

[Matt Jones]

So let's, let's. Let's give the award for best and worst security. Best security of the week. This referee for giving the security to Jackson Smith in Jigba. Worst security of the week. The Louvre, where the security guards, when they broke in left, which apparently that is the policy, if you haven't heard. The Louvre had all the $108 million worth of jewels. Did you see that? That's what it is. Yes, that's right. That is an unbelievable amount. But apparently when they broke in, the security guards ran out the door. Not because they were afraid, because that is the policy at the Louvre. No confrontation. Which, as I said earlier, makes me think, why do you have a security guard? If it's no confrontation, then what's the point of them even being in there?

[Drew Franklin]

This is the exact same situation as the grocery chain I worked in in high school. I won't say its name, but they said, if someone's shoplifting, it's not your job to stop them. Let them go. And I thought, well, as an employee, I kind of feel like I should do something. Nope, let them go. So maybe at the Louvre, they're like.

[Matt Jones]

Get out of the way to people at banks, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

They say when you robbed. Yeah, just give them the money and go away.

[Drew Franklin]

I actually got in trouble. I saw a shoplifter and pushed a whole cart full of meat out. Wasn't like a little pickpocket thing. And I followed them out and got their license plate number, and I got in trouble.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you got in trouble for following them outside?

[Drew Franklin]

Because we're not supposed to get involved. I'm like, well, sorry for trying to.

[Matt Jones]

Help with the crime here.

[Drew Franklin]

So I feel like the Lou has.

[Matt Jones]

Trouble just for going.

[Drew Franklin]

They're very adamant about do not get involved at this particular chain. I won't name. So the Louvre has the same policy.

[Matt Jones]

So what level of getting involved would you do? So, for instance, let's say somebody came in here and wanted to steal Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

Please, guys.

[Matt Jones]

Billy, would you try to stop them?

[Billy (Producer)]

Yes, because would you do.

[Matt Jones]

But what would you do?

[Billy (Producer)]

I'd get in between them and Drew. You.

[Matt Jones]

So armed robber comes in here to take Drew, and you would get up and get in between. Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

So you're doing the official. His name's Nate Jones, by the way.

[Matt Jones]

You would.

[Drew Franklin]

Nate Jones. If they were trying to steal me?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Billy (Producer)]

I would go, Drew, just like the ref.

[Matt Jones]

I would run out of the door like the woo.

[Drew Franklin]

You'd leave?

[Matt Jones]

I would go ahead and leave. And they would go, no. Would you like to. And I'd be like. My policy, company policy is non confrontation. You win, you can take Drew. Please leave Mario. But you can take Drew and then. Yeah, that's probably what I would do.

[Drew Franklin]

So when it's fight or flight, your fight and your flight definitely fly.

[Matt Jones]

Fighting has never worked for anyone.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, Billy, I appreciate that you would just lay your body on me like Nate Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Aaron Tippen said, you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. I'm falling for anything.

[Billy (Producer)]

Same policy at Dick's sporting goods, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Must be a big chain thing.

[Billy (Producer)]

Don't stop the shoplifter. Just let them leave.

[Matt Jones]

I did one time. See, many years ago, a person at Chipotle smack a customer for trying to reach into the. So Chipotle, apparently is much more.

[Drew Franklin]

Nobody's stealing their jewels.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And you would think, like, a guy was just trying to reach into the cash register just to take, like, what dollars he could get. And this woman just smacked him across the face.

[Billy (Producer)]

The Louvre could use her.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Nate Jones and that woman, if they're working at the Louvre, there would still be jewels.

[Matt Jones]

Has a confrontation policy. So Nate Jones would be a good Chipotle employee. Jackson Smith and Jigba, by the way, 819 yards, leads the league and receiving.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's killing it. Puka had that lead for a while, but having him being out a little bit. JSN has taken over.

[Matt Jones]

All right, let's. There's some news tidbits. Let's start with Roger Goodell. Today he announced that they would not be changing Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl. The NFL will not reconsider Bad Bunny. Roger Goodell said picking Bad Bunny was carefully thought through. I'm not sure we've ever selected our artists where we didn't have some blowback or criticism. It's pretty hard to do when you have literally of people. We're confident it's going to be a great show. It's going to be exciting and a united moment. Do you. Are you glad that they said the Bunny will still be there?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. And I think he said something that I completely agree with about how you can't please everyone. Because I can't remember a Super bowl party where someone's not complaining about the musical.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Drew Franklin]

It doesn't matter who it is.

[Matt Jones]

Who would be the most universally liked person to play the Super Bowl? Like, if they said, okay, this person's it, you would hear the fewest complaints.

[Drew Franklin]

We often bring up Dolly as like, someone that's very popular, but in this setting, I don't know if it's a Super bowl show.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

So I'm actually throwing her out, even though I think she's one of the most likable.

[Matt Jones]

Dolly Parton is the most unifyingly likable person, but I don't think if she comes out and going, Jolene, Jolene, I don't know that people are going to be rocking.

[Drew Franklin]

So who's. Who are the hot. Well, I mean.

[Matt Jones]

Well, okay, so who has been the most universally liked was probably Prince.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Also a great.

[Matt Jones]

But I bet you when they announced Prince, there were people like all like purple.

[Drew Franklin]

They're wearing that outfit. Game blouses.

[Matt Jones]

He's got that little curls. Head. Oh, like that one.

[Drew Franklin]

Be so.

[Matt Jones]

But, but. But then in hindsight, everybody loves it. But I bet you in the moment that people didn't necessarily like it. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Billy (Producer)]

Michael Jackson.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. But that in hindsight, I don't know if it would have been universal in the moment, though. I mean, that was the 91 Super bowl where you had Whitney Houston sing the national anthem and then Michael Jackson. I mean, that's probably the highlight of people going, this is wonderful. Right. But we were also in a war, and people tend to unify more in a war, so that might part of it, too.

[Drew Franklin]

Any name I come up with, I can already Think of a group that's going to complain. I'm running down the list of the most popular people and someone out there would complain about Jennifer Lopez.

[Billy (Producer)]

And Shakira was pretty unifying.

[Matt Jones]

Not for my ex girlfriend. She did not like that one bit. Yeah, there's nobody. People say, well, you could have a country artist. But like, you got to remember, you know, 60% of America doesn't listen to country music at all. So like they wouldn't have any idea who.

[Drew Franklin]

Who these people were right now, the year that. And it. It messed up a little bit. But they had like Aerosmith. Wasn't that the same as Janet Jackson? They had like seven different Timberlake, seven different kinds of.

[Matt Jones]

But they also. They tried to do a lot and they ended up with a wardrobe malfunction. So I mean you do have to be. You do have to be careful. I'm for Bad Bunny. Look, the. You know, there's a lot of. Sometimes people in America think there's only one country. Right. There are other countries and even within this country, like Bad Bunny's the biggest artist in the world. How do you look and say this is the biggest artist in the world. We don't want him. So I think it's good now. I don't know one of his songs at all. Never heard one. Except the one that. Whose name I've forgotten. The one that goes. Wrestling entrance music. I hope he plays that one.

[Drew Franklin]

It was a great intro in wrestling when he did that. That's one of the better ones.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, so if he plays that one, I'll. I'm looking forward to it. And I think, I think it would be good if he had little bunnies jumping around.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, bad bunnies. You know, also, I can't name a Bad Bunny song, but instead of being close minded, you could use this as an opportunity to be like, oh, maybe I'll hear what I learned. Maybe I'll see why. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people like this.

[Matt Jones]

Do we know who's doing the national anthem?

[Billy (Producer)]

I have not heard that.

[Matt Jones]

You really want to just make it Lee Greenwood.

[Drew Franklin]

They have not announced the match.

[Matt Jones]

The last time I turned the channel during halftime was to watch the Rock wrestlemankind on raw in like 1999. Did you know they did that? I didn't know they had a wrestling match at halftime on. They wrestled in an empty arena and it was, it was a big deal. It was like halftime slam or something like that. But they haven't done that in a while.

[Drew Franklin]

Got the puppy bowl too. Just A lot of options and Living.

[Matt Jones]

Color one time had a halftime show too. No, they did. They did live skits during halftime time one time.

[Drew Franklin]

I watched that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but nowadays everybody just can sense the super bowl is the one thing that brings us together. I'm looking forward to Bad Buddy.

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[Matt Jones]

The super. They've all. The NFL also announced today that the Pro bowl activities are now moved to super bowl week and will be part of super bowl week. You think that's good?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. The Pro bowl, they've tried the different format. They're mixing it up. For whatever reason, it just doesn't get the eyeballs it should. The NFL wins at everything it touches, but the Pro Bowl I think is better off being paired with the super bowl that week. It's almost like people take a deep breath before the super bowl comes around a week later. I like that they're making it a part of the bigger thing now.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I do too. And I think that, you know, I don't know what they do now. Do they still. What is the event? Is it like beach volleyball? Well, not volleyball. That wouldn't make sense.

[Drew Franklin]

They're playing horseshoes. They went. They went flag football recently. So that's been the new format.

[Billy (Producer)]

Any games, like they try to hit a target.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Skills, challenges.

[Matt Jones]

I do like having it the week of. I mean, I think, you know, I think that will make it to where you're more likely to watch the events than the week after when people have kind of moved on. Right? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And those guys probably love to go into Hawaii and Florida, wherever it's been. But, you know, being a part of the bigger festivities, I know they'd rather be in the game, but Just the Super bowl the whole week, everyone just all media descends upon it. I just think putting these skills games and non contact stuff with that is a good idea.

[Matt Jones]

Now there's some chatter that we might get to go to the Super Bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

I was going to say be in the Pro bowl. Like I'll do some skills challenges.

[Matt Jones]

I have never been to the Super Bowl. It's in Santa Clara, California which is. I guess it's close to San Francisco. People put all those cities and act like they're right next to each San Jose, San Francisco, Oakland, Santa Clara, Palo Alto. I don't know where any of them are, but I think they're way it's out there. If we go to the Super Bowl, I am volunteering to the NFL. I'll be the official Pro bowl reporter. I'll go to all the activities.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll do recaps on here.

[Matt Jones]

I'll do the beach volleyball game.

[Drew Franklin]

Sounds perfect. If there's not one, we'll just play.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like I've seen they. I think they once had a reporter game. Did you know that?

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Matt Jones]

I want to say one, one time at the Pro bowl they had a reporter game because Ryan Rusillo tore his ACL in it. I think. Okay, completely made up.

[Drew Franklin]

I can go with Kyle Brandt on the field.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, but. But I'm excited about it. I think it's a smart decision. And yeah, you know, the two teams in the Pro bowl don't or in the super bowl don't get to play. But chances are those guys weren't going to play anyway. Some news. The jets quarterback. I know a lot of people are excited about the 0 and 7 jets and who's going to be their quarterback. Aaron Glenn says no decision has been made whether it will be whether it'll be Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor or someone else. I like the. Or someone else.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And their owner kind of came out and defended Aaron Glenn and basically just backed the bus over Justin Fields.

[Matt Jones]

Didn't he say about Aaron Glenn we hug each other every day or something along those lines. That's a lot of hugs. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And it was a big vote of confidence for a winless coach.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Which is good.

[Drew Franklin]

But the situation, it seems they're putting it on Fields of what's been the problem up to this point And Tyrod.

[Billy (Producer)]

Taylor's now day to day with a knee injury as of today, so.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, he is. Well, then the. Or someone else might be. But who would the other person be?

[Billy (Producer)]

I don't know who their third quarterback is.

[Matt Jones]

Is There someone sitting at home going could be me. There's some.

[Drew Franklin]

There's some phones that.

[Matt Jones]

You know what? I think it should be Joe Flacco.

[Drew Franklin]

Moment Burrow gets ld just get him over there.

[Matt Jones]

Joe Flacco should be allowed to go from team to team. He's like all time quarterback for everybody. I would like that.

[Drew Franklin]

They currently don't have a backup on the roster so they'll have to.

[Billy (Producer)]

Oh it is Joe Flacco.

[Drew Franklin]

Someone a phone call who should. Or Sanders who is their third string. It's.

[Billy (Producer)]

They don't have one.

[Matt Jones]

They don't have a third string.

[Drew Franklin]

They might have one on the.

[Matt Jones]

They really have to go find somebody.

[Billy (Producer)]

Brady Cook, practice squad.

[Matt Jones]

Who's Brady Cook?

[Billy (Producer)]

Was that the Missouri quarterback?

[Drew Franklin]

He's about second year guy.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Oh well he'd be good.

[Drew Franklin]

He's an option.

[Matt Jones]

I'd like to see him.

[Billy (Producer)]

Can't be worse.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm going to bet on the jets this week since they may be since there are people roaming the streets who might end up being the quarterback. Jaden Daniels is out this week. That's part of the reason that game against the Chiefs is a 12 1/2 point point spread. When I saw his injury I thought like he was. It was bad, bad. You know the way he went, collapsed. They're saying it's a hamstring. Might just be out. This might be the out. But it looked a lot worse in the moment.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, primetime game it is at Kansas City. I mean I know they're not going to surrender that one but you're probably going to lose it regardless. But important to get him back because they had high aspirations after a year ago and it's going the wrong direction right now.

[Matt Jones]

This is a Peyton and Eli game. They're going to have to step up. They got a big spread. They got Marcus Mariota who cut his hair after you made fun of how wild it was.

[Drew Franklin]

Which proves he's listening.

[Matt Jones]

Still. Still a little gray but like just for men kind of. What do they call it? Blend.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he had. He got the blend done.

[Matt Jones]

He got the blend. The blend is good.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think he knew there's a chance of Monday Night Football is coming up? He probably saw Jaden's hamstring, still not perfect. And he thought I got it. I got to get ready for this 4K TV game coming up.

[Matt Jones]

The woman that cuts my hair likes to do the blend and she sometimes I think she messes around with the blend. I think she sometimes blends me a little more, a little less and I Thought it's by how much I give her a hard time during the thing. When I'm nice to her, I get darker hair. If I make fun of her because she went on a date with someone, then I end up a little more gray over the course of the time. And it's sneaky because it doesn't start showing itself for like a week or two. And I'll go, she got me again.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a slippery slope because if you go too far, we all know the people that we. It's like, we know you had gray hair and now it's jet black. Like, you can go too far.

[Matt Jones]

No, you can't. I don't want to look like George Clooney in that play.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, that's right. Or Giuliani when it was dripping down his face.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, when he was dripping down his face.

[Drew Franklin]

A good blend is what you. What you got to stick with trying.

[Matt Jones]

To think who are the best dyed hair jobs. Oh, Vince McMahon.

[Drew Franklin]

Vince McMahon, Carlos Boozer. But his was just Sharpie music, which I think Marcus Freeman did that last week. Week for Notre Dame.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you do?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he got.

[Matt Jones]

Are you accusing. Marcus. Fre job.

[Drew Franklin]

He went and got a hat at halftime, and he's never worn a hat before. The Internet squad.

[Matt Jones]

I think somebody told him and said they're making.

[Drew Franklin]

Not me. The Internet was being mean on Saturday. I was just a participant on the Internet. Yeah. I'm. I'm citing other sources, but there is a belief that he might have over blended on Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

Why do they care if that cuts my hair? I think she's. Because it's never quite the same, and sometimes she'll have a sly look on her face. It's like, you're gonna pay for this in three weeks.

[Drew Franklin]

I've worried every time I get a haircut. Mine is coming in strong, so I gotta be careful on the Mariota jokes. I prepare to be gray in, like, two years. It's. I'm at that age. It's coming on fast.

[Matt Jones]

Are you gonna just let it go?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. It is what it is.

[Matt Jones]

But you're married. You can do that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but I think I could rock a silver fox if I had to, you know, if I need to.

[Matt Jones]

Can you call yourself a silver fox?

[Drew Franklin]

I guess that is complimenting yourself a little bit. But, I mean, I'm. Some people run from it. They think their life's over if my hair turns gray. It's great. Let's live.

[Matt Jones]

Your life's not over.

[Drew Franklin]

But some people freak out over a gray hair. Whatever. I'm getting old. Bring it on. I already get out of breath and my knees hurt walking up steps. What's a gray hair?

[Matt Jones]

I tell you what, I tell you what's a humbling moment. This happened. This happened to me. When you start getting gray chest hairs, because, like the gray chest hair, first of all, who's. Nobody's dying their chest.

[Drew Franklin]

Will you blend this, Karen?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I've never asked her to do that. That's a little more intimate than I usually feel with my hairdresser. But that's a humbling moment when you go, oh, okay, you're that guy.

[Drew Franklin]

The clock just keeps turning.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. You're not gonna be able to stop it. All right, let's move. We're gonna get some news headlines from our guy. Billy, you're up to bat. What's your first?

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, we got to start with the drama between Russell Wilson and Sean Payton.

[Matt Jones]

Explain this to me because I didn't totally understand.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah. So after the Broncos came back to beat the Giants last week, Sean Payton was speaking in the post game press conference and had a subtle shot at Russell Wilson. He said they found a little spark with Jackson Dart. We were hoping that change would have happened or would have happened long after our game. So Russell Wilson, who previously played in Denver with Sean Payton, I guess Sean Payton doesn't have.

[Matt Jones]

He is saying that he wishes Russell Wilson was still the quarterback for when they played last week.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

That's a brutal thing to say.

[Billy (Producer)]

Russell Wilson responded on Twitter. He was not subtle. He said classless. He went on to say, didn't realize you're still bounty hunting 15 plus years later through the media. Let's ride.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so my general reaction is I generally think Russell Wilson is one of the lamer sports figures of all time. With that said, I'm kind of with him on this one. This is your former coach taking a shot at directly at you. I think Russell was fine to clap back. How about you?

[Drew Franklin]

I agree. And I first saw this on like an Instagram screenshot, and I thought it was fake. I did, too, because I couldn't imagine Russell Wilson do this. I closed Instagram, went to Russell Wilson's Twitter account and had to make sure it was really him because I couldn't.

[Matt Jones]

Believe have saved Russell Wilson's Twitter account. I mean, you have to understand.

[Drew Franklin]

Danger.

[Matt Jones]

Russ Drew gets motivational advice from Mr. Unlimited.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I'm looking for the subway coupons.

[Matt Jones]

He has his quotes up on the mirror. Mr. Unlimited, tell me what I should do today.

[Drew Franklin]

Limited but of all the people in the NFL. I would expect this last from Russell Wilson. That tells me how much he and Sean Payton doesn't get along because he seems to have snapped. Like Sean Payton got under his skin enough that he made Russell Wilson go after someone. He's not wrong at all, but he's kind of a nice guy, kind of corny. We've never seen anything really like this from him. But Sean Payton must get under his skin that much.

[Matt Jones]

Who do you think is objectively more unlikable?

[Drew Franklin]

John Payton.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, really?

[Drew Franklin]

I said this Wednesday, when Sean Payton got that penalty against the Giants, I wanted them to lose just so Sean Payton would have to live with that.

[Matt Jones]

So what is it about Sean Payton you don't like?

[Drew Franklin]

Like, I'll admit it's more secondhand. Like right now, if you search his name, there are other athletes. Like, finally someone said it. And then of course, the bounty gate thing pre frowned upon back in the day, and it was a long time.

[Matt Jones]

Ago, but that's where they, like, he.

[Drew Franklin]

Was giving bounties a little price on people. Yeah, but they just. I guess it's more of just observing what people are saying. But there are a lot of people defending Russell Wilson right now. And I just think that says a lot about Peyton.

[Matt Jones]

He kind of looks like. Like an 80s movie bully, like, because he's got that look, like a snarl on his face. And he kind of looks like he would talk about you behind your back. So I get what you're saying. I just can't believe I'm taking up for Russell Wilson now. With that said, Sean Payton was right. It would have been better for them had Russell Wilson been the quarterback. So Sean Payton was telling truth. Aren't we just mad that he was telling the truth?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, that's another angle of this. Like Sean Payton, it's not a. Not as bad as Russell Wilson probably took it. He's just saying they should go to dart. Okay, they went to dart and it's been pretty good since. So, I mean, it's not like he was wrong. I think Russell just didn't like hearing it. And it's kind of revealing more of those two's relationship than what was actually said.

[Matt Jones]

It is amazing also, though, to see, like, you know, Russell Wilson, when he leaves a place, people say mean things. You know, a lot of his Seattle teammates have kind of hinted stuff Richard Sherman did famously on that Amazon game a few years ago.

[Billy (Producer)]

Well, they say he has a Persona.

[Matt Jones]

So we are on this one. We are on Sean Payton's side or no, excuse me, Russell Wilson, yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Because I can't believe someone got Russell Wilson to snap.

[Matt Jones]

Thanks, Mr.

[Drew Franklin]

Going out in leather, maybe he snaps more often than I realize.

[Matt Jones]

Mr. Unlimited. Let's score one for the leather jacket side and Russell Wilson.

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[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Billy (Producer)]

The Baltimore sun is reporting that after the Ravens fell to one in five on the season, they have now removed the players ping pong table, video game consoles, basketball hoop, and cornhole boards from their locker room.

[Matt Jones]

Wow. That's a punishment. No ping pong table or video games. So it's supposed to be like a. You all need to focus on the game.

[Billy (Producer)]

It's time to think about football.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I get the idea of it, but I also think it sort of sends a message to your fans that these guys were too focused on ping pong and that's why they lost, which I think is probably a little unfair to them.

[Drew Franklin]

I need to know how much ping pong they were playing. This seems like they have a severe ping pong problem. Like, how many hours a day is the ping pong distracting them that you have to pull it out of the building?

[Matt Jones]

What are they hoping they'll do instead of the ping pong?

[Billy (Producer)]

Hit each other, Study their playbook, maybe build some camaraderie?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's a little bit like, you know, we follow Kentucky basketball and somebody will take a picture of the players, like at the movies, and somebody will go, I should stop watching movies and go be shooting in the gym. And I'd go, well, don't they get a movie occasionally? That's kind of how I feel. I mean, how much you got to give your body a break, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I remember one of the basketball players that missed a free throw in a big tournament game, PJ Washington. But then like, like six months later, he put a video or a picture up where he went and had dinner with his family. They're like, why aren't you shooting free throws? It's like, can't the man go eat?

[Matt Jones]

Stop eating them chicken fingers. Shoot your Fritos.

[Drew Franklin]

So is that what Ravens fans are Doing now?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's right. Why? I'm sorry, I can't do the impersonation anymore. Well, you said cornhole boards. I also will note feels like they're not really spending all that much on entertainment. I mean, cornhill, cornhole boards, basketball hoop and a ping pong table. I mean, I've seen high school workouts that have better facilities than that.

[Drew Franklin]

We're talking about multimillionaires who can do whatever they want at any given moment. And you're worried they're being distracted by the cornhole boards? I don't know. I'm not in for it. I'm with you. I think it sends a message to everyone else that they're just around the facility doing nothing but playing these games.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on that. What's next?

[Billy (Producer)]

We have an interesting Sunday night game this week. Green Bay is at the Steelers in Pittsburgh, and there's been some issues with the playing surface in Pittsburgh with their grass field. So Mike Tomlin was asked about it today, and he had a funny response when asked about the field conditions. He said, I am not a grass expert. I ain't cut my grass in a long, long time. I coach football. I'm a stay in my lane. I don't even know who cuts my grass.

[Matt Jones]

It's a little out of touch. I mean, I understand. He hasn't cut his grass. Means I don't even know who cut my grass. I mean, if I was the guy cutting his grass, I'd be like, you could at least know my name. Yeah, just completely cut mere grass. You don't have to act like I'm not a human being, Mike. My name's Bob, okay? I'm a Steelers fan lifelong. I tell all my friends, I cut your grass. He probably does. And you cannot just know my name.

[Drew Franklin]

Somebody check on Bob.

[Matt Jones]

Bob's gotta be taking this hard.

[Drew Franklin]

He's been at the bar calling himself Mike Tomlin's gardener for 10 years, and no one's believed him. And then Mike just completely sabotages him.

[Matt Jones]

And, you know, he's like, mike gives me a big bonus sometimes. He invites me in, we play ping pong. Then Mike's like, I know the hell you are.

[Drew Franklin]

Who else does he throw? Under the bus is his chef. Do they have a name?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you should see what he says about his driver.

[Billy (Producer)]

Well, he doesn't throw the fields. Stadium crew under the bus, I think.

[Matt Jones]

Are they the ones that actually deserve it?

[Drew Franklin]

Probably.

[Matt Jones]

Haven't we been having this problem with Pittsburgh's field for years.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yes. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Why is it so much harder than everywhere else? Like, Pittsburgh's not known for having terrible weather. Like, what's. What's the issue?

[Billy (Producer)]

I think a lot of it is, like, the concerts that they have there around the same time these venues used.

[Drew Franklin]

And so what?

[Billy (Producer)]

It's a grass field.

[Matt Jones]

Just out of curiosity, this is based on any information, do you have any idea how many concerts have been at Hines Field? No.

[Billy (Producer)]

No. They filmed a Batman movie there.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Helicopter landings.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. But you. I mean, I do think it's fair to say that if you say with confidence, I think it's because of the concerts. You should know whether they have any concerts.

[Billy (Producer)]

I'm going to assume they've had a couple. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I think the bigger problem is how now all of the groundskeepers feel underappreciated that no one knows their name.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that may be part of it. Pitt plays there as well. Could it be that pit plays, like, on Saturday, and then there's a game.

[Billy (Producer)]

Sunday and a concert in between.

[Drew Franklin]

Don't forget the Saturday night concert.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know that they have a concert then on Saturday night as well.

[Drew Franklin]

Pit at noon, Jelly roll at nine, Steelers at one.

[Billy (Producer)]

No wonder they're grassy.

[Matt Jones]

But they do. I feel like this has been an issue now. I think there was a game a few weeks ago where I saw where the grass literally was coming up out of the. Out of the field. So feels like something they ought to fix. It is.

[Drew Franklin]

But then you have the turf people begging for grass. It's like, who. What is the perfect field that we can get? Everyone, like, no one likes their field, no matter who they are, where they are.

[Matt Jones]

I prefer grass.

[Drew Franklin]

Me, too.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Because. Because for me, I want to see after a tackle, I want to see guys be dirty. I don't like seeing the little rubber pellets come up after a play. I want to see mud, and I want to see when it rains, it's slipp. Like, that's part of it, Right?

[Drew Franklin]

Definitely. Which NFL coach we're going to assume most of them don't cut their grass. That wasn't breaking news for Mike. Tom, do you think any of them cut their own grass?

[Matt Jones]

Dan Campbell with his shirt off.

[Drew Franklin]

I could definitely see Dan waving at the neighbors.

[Matt Jones]

Beer? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I could see that an hour after the game, too. He goes straight home and cuts the grass.

[Matt Jones]

I can tell you who has never even seen a Lawnmower is Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel would run from any sort of technical. First of all, Mike McDaniel probably lives in a 15 story a condo building right down from a restaurant that he goes to every night.

[Drew Franklin]

And with those exposed ankles he could cut himself trimming the sidewalk.

[Matt Jones]

It's true. That was one of the things Larry used to always say to me. Don't wear shorts when you get a stick through you. I don't know if that's true, but I was always very careful. 99 degrees. I'd still be wearing jeans out there because I didn't want to get a stick through me.

[Drew Franklin]

Not the capris.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so that game, Packer Steelers, by the way, one of only two games this week where both teams have a winning record without looking at your schedule. Do you know the other game besides Packers Steelers where both teams have a.

[Drew Franklin]

Winning record record trying to run through. There were so many lopsided spreads.

[Matt Jones]

There's only one. I'll be, I'll be impressed if you get this.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, I don't have it.

[Matt Jones]

Anybody?

[Drew Franklin]

Guess I don't have it off the top of my head.

[Matt Jones]

Bill's Panthers.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, Panthers are 4 and 3 right now.

[Matt Jones]

Bill's Panthers. So if I told you there'd be two games where both teams have a winning record with Chiefs commanders on the schedule and one of them was Bill's Panthers, would you have ever believed that?

[Drew Franklin]

No. I mean I knew the Panthers were had a winning record. I did slip my mind right on schedule because it's their first time being above.500 in several years. And it's the, you know, Josh Allen, Bryce Young showdown that we've all been. Actually, maybe not. Yeah, yeah, maybe Josh Allen again. Unless there's been new news on Bryce Young, it's still up in the air.

[Matt Jones]

I do love what a matchup for.

[Drew Franklin]

Your other game of winning teams.

[Matt Jones]

The Red rocket is coming back. All right, what's next?

[Drew Franklin]

Two more.

[Billy (Producer)]

Denver Broncos linebacker Dre Greenlaw has been suspended one game after he chased down and verbally threatened arrest ref after the game versus The Giants on Sunday. Greenlaw's one game suspension was upheld. So he will not be available to play the Dallas Cowboys.

[Matt Jones]

What was his beef?

[Drew Franklin]

I think it goes back to the pass interference in the end zone that. Well, several plays before.

[Billy (Producer)]

Sean Payton was livid throughout the game on a lot of things. So I'm not sure if there was one play or if it was the whole game. But he chased down the ref.

[Matt Jones]

But they won.

[Drew Franklin]

It was as the Phil goes to the uprights. He runs to the ref and is just in his face.

[Matt Jones]

But they won exactly like I mean I Understand? And I would have a little more sympathy if they lost, but they won the game. Like, dude, chill.

[Drew Franklin]

And his teammates are celebrating. Like, they're running onto the field because it just went through the uprights. Instead of celebrating with them, he's chasing down the referee to yell at him.

[Matt Jones]

That's somebody who wants to win an argument too much. Like, you won the game, man. Come on.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, what do you. If I'm the ref, like, what do you. Look. Look at the scoreboard, man.

[Matt Jones]

What do you want from me?

[Drew Franklin]

Congratulations.

[Matt Jones]

I had an argument with an ex a long time. It was a long time ago, like 10 or 12 years ago. And I. The person apologized to me was like, you're right, I'm wrong. And I just kept arguing the point. And they said they were sorry again. And I just kept arguing. And finally she said, what would you like me to do? Write a note to your mother? And I was like, yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Good point.

[Matt Jones]

Write a note to my mom and say you were. But there comes a point where you're like, okay, that's too much. What else do you want to do? You won the game.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. There's a lot of Broncos fans, I saw that, think there's some big conspiracy against them.

[Matt Jones]

I always love that. Why would there be a conspiracy against the Broncos? The Giants would hate the Broncos.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, like in the league offices. Like, well, we got to make sure the Giants win in Denver. I don't even know what storyline they would be going for, but Broncos fans thought the fix was in. Dre Greenlaw. Include.

[Matt Jones]

My favorite one of those is many years ago, VCU was in the final four, and I was assigned by CBS to cover VCU for their game. And I heard a VCU fan say, those Colonial refs always hate us. I was like, you really think there's a conspiracy in the Colonial Conference against vcu? Everybody comes together and goes, we cannot let these VCU guys.

[Drew Franklin]

Sounds about like Giants fans right now. And what scenario are they creating?

[Matt Jones]

That I don't know what's next?

[Billy (Producer)]

At Brown's, head coach Kevin Stefanski has said that Sanders is not getting starter reps. Gabriel. Yeah. Shadur Sanders. He is not getting starter reps behind Gabriel. This is news.

[Matt Jones]

Dylan. Gabriel.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

You're saying all these people like, you, like, like you're one name people?

[Billy (Producer)]

Well, we're an NFL show, but yeah, I should probably say both. So this is news because when Flacco was there, DG was constantly getting the starters reps in practice, but now DG is the starter, and Sanders is not getting any of these starter reps, Stefanski has said, well, it's different when Joe Flacco is a veteran and there's a lot to learn. I mean, what can DG really for.

[Matt Jones]

SS than it is for dg, Right. Understand. I don't know. This is a big story. Dylan Gabriel, I mean, he won last week, right.

[Drew Franklin]

He's been looking pretty good. He's got a little better each week.

[Matt Jones]

Not going to play. I don't know. During the season, I'm not sure how much backups get reps anyway, so I don't think this is a big deal. Do you have any interest in watching Shador play? Like, if I told you, you know, I'd love to see Shador in a game. Do you care or is it like, it doesn't matter?

[Drew Franklin]

Week one, maybe, but the more we hear that he doesn't even get reps and that when Flacco left, they're like, we have to find someone out there to be behind Gabriel. It just tells me there's nothing to see. I mean, they see him every day, and if they're not seeing anything, I'm not going to get excited to watch it. I'm just going to assume he's not.

[Matt Jones]

Cut out for it. If Dylan Gabriel were to get hurt or get benched, and then there was a week leading up to a Browns game, I mean, it would have a lot of hype, right? Everybody would want to see Shador play in that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, just. I guess at this point it's more about not the excitement of the name, just the expectations. It just sounds like he doesn't have it at this point. Cause the Browns, at any moment, if you ask about Shador, they're quick to talk about how he's not really an option.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right, well, now it's time to make some picks. And what we do here on this show is it's time for the victory bundle presented by Liberty Mutual. Each week we give you three games that we say are we're going to pick against the spread and they will be your victory bundle. So we do them each week. I'm going to go first, Drew. It's the Bears and the Ravens. The Ravens are a six and a half point favorite because Lamar is back. I think the Ravens might win the game, but I think you give me six and a half with a Bears team that's played well anyway. Ravens were 1 and 2 even when Lamar played. So I'm going to go ahead and take the Bears as part of my victory bundle. All right, what's Your pick.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I want to say on that when the schedule or on Monday when I saw the lines for every game, the one that jumped out of me were your Bears. I thought that was too many points. With the Ravens team that's been crap. And this is before I even learned about the ping pong tables and the cornhole boards.

[Matt Jones]

They could be sad.

[Drew Franklin]

So I didn't even know that was going to be. But I really like that one.

[Matt Jones]

All right. So what's yours?

[Drew Franklin]

You know I always like fading Tennessee but that spread is 14 and a half points. 14 and a half points. So I'm looking Dallas at Denver.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Dallas defense has been a little improved. There's still a problem but three and.

[Matt Jones]

A half point underdog.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that offense has been spectacular, especially last week with CD back. They are so fun to watch. We're not even talking about the running back Williams enough because Pickens has been so good. So I like the Dallas Dallas offensive offense to keep. Well, I can't talk. Keep lighting it up and maybe even win that game in Denver.

[Matt Jones]

So you're taking Cowboys three and a half. Yes. So we got Bears plus six and a half Cat. Cowboys was three and a half. I'll do the third one for the bundle. How about Sunday Night Football? I'm going to take the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers. You tell me. Aaron Rodgers gets his former team. He's getting three and a half at home. I don't know if they win but I feel like they cover the three and a half. So I'm going to make this a road dog victory bundle.

[Drew Franklin]

Road dog noise. You like that?

[Matt Jones]

It is. I do. I really like Liberty Mutuals. Let's try that again. It's the Liberty road mutual road dog victory bundle.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I'm sure they'll stick with that one. I'll work on my barking between now and next week.

[Billy (Producer)]

We'll keep the record for this. You guys were two and one last week.

[Drew Franklin]

We were. That's called being in the green.

[Matt Jones]

That's kind of a bundle. And so this was the victory bundle presented by Liberty Mutual. Start your quote, start your quote and get your wins with the road dogs. Liberty mutual.com Mr. Q there.

[Drew Franklin]

But that's okay on on that pick. We need one thing to happen and I love it.

[Matt Jones]

What's that?

[Drew Franklin]

The Micah Parsons that was in the fourth quarter last week can't get near near Aaron Rodgers. So the Steelers offensive line keep him on his feet.

[Matt Jones]

It did look like he just turned it up there at the end. Sorry. So looking at the games, those are Three of our picks. Let's go quickly Thursday night Vikings and Chargers. Any interest in that game in la?

[Drew Franklin]

I have a lot of interest because these are two teams that are a little below what they thought they'd be right now. Chargers have to figure out that offensive line. They're going to get Justin Herbert killed. If you look at the QB pressure, stats, hits, all of that he's. He's getting hit more than about anybody in the league for what was a contender a month ago. So if they don't resolve that they have big time problems. But then Vikings also their quarterback situation shaky.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Still probably going with Carson this week. Jets and Bengals. We don't. We don't know who'll be quarterback but we know Flacco is back. Oh are you excited going to see old man?

[Drew Franklin]

I am. I didn't think Flacco and Cincinnati would work. I know it's only been one game but he does a good job of saying where's Jamar Chase? I'll put it in his chest and that was What a record 16 catches last week. So I think that continues speaking of.

[Matt Jones]

Somebody who does gray blending well.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Is is Joe Flacco. Dolphins and Falcons. We keep thinking Mike McDaniel won't make it. He's going to Atlanta. They can't get rid of him.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going to do a little parlay here. Falcons destroy them and Mike McDaniel keeps his job another week. I know those don't go together but he keeps defying the odds.

[Matt Jones]

I like it. Bills and Panthers two winning teams. Bills are a seven half point favorite Any chance that Andy Dalton does a little Andy Magic little Red Rocket if if they your docket if they do.

[Drew Franklin]

Play well against the Bills it's going to be my guy Rico, not Andy I of all the big spreads I think this one has the chance to.

[Matt Jones]

Get I do too I the Bills a lot. Giants and Eagles do the does the Eagles Giants make another one competitive. They've been playing well. I know they lost last week but can they scatter boo a close game?

[Drew Franklin]

I think they can. I mean they owned Denver until all hell broke loose with 33 points in the fourth quarter. I think they found something with dart Scatter boo got a little swagger on that team. Maybe they don't beat the Eagles who found a new formula on offense last week but I think they'll be in.

[Matt Jones]

The game Bucks and Saints and this is one where the Saints this is yeah this is a yeah is in New Orleans. It's 405 Spiro, Chris Myers, Adam Marchuletta are going to be fighting over who gets to do the game. You know, the Saints have been competitive week after week. I will go ahead and say it. This is my Matt Jones. Get ready, Billy. Going to be sad pick of the week. Saints win against the box. You're doing not just they're winning Saturday, Sunday.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm gonna let you have that one on your own.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

But I'm rooting for it. Just for the conversations we can have on this.

[Matt Jones]

It's gonna happen and then the Titans are not gonna beat the Colts. So what are we doing? We don't.

[Drew Franklin]

Fourteen and a half points.

[Matt Jones]

Come on, that's a lot. All right, it's time for our contest. Let's start with our Survivor league. Drew has been out for quite some time. Billy and I still in. We are. You know, I saw they're only down to like 18% of the people in the Survivor League at the circa. And we would still be in it.

[Billy (Producer)]

We'd still be in it even though we took a couple weeks off.

[Matt Jones]

You don't have to. We were going to win those weeks.

[Drew Franklin]

Someone listening right now did not know that.

[Matt Jones]

Why do you have to get in all the specifics?

[Billy (Producer)]

Oh, that's just who I am, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. That's why I don't know your name. Just like Mike Tomlins. Because you ruined the party. Like Mike Tomlins. Groundskeeper. Who you get to go first? You cannot pick the Jaguars, the Cardinals, the Bills, the Colts or the Chiefs. Who you got?

[Billy (Producer)]

Team management getting a little tricky here. But I'm going with a team that's red hot right now. Give me Drake May and the Patriots to beat the Browns at home. They're six and a half point favorites. I think they win by double digits.

[Matt Jones]

Patriots. So you're going to take the Patriots at home. I like that one. Well, mine's easy. You couldn't pick them because you had already picked them. But I still can. I'm going to take the colts at home, 14 and a half point favorite against the Titans. I've done pretty well in this betting against your Titans. I did it the last two weeks. I get to do it again this week.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, and I've been betting against my Titans with real money. That's been profitable too, that, you know, not going to say it's a guarantee, but that's about the closest thing is a guarantee on the schedule.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I like that one quite a bit. Okay, so now it is time for our touchdown league. Last week Billy got it with Scatter boo. He was able to get that one. I got devonte Adams did not get it. You had Jalen Hurts. Drew did not get it. So the score now is Billy 3. Me too. Drew 1. By the looks of it, I get to go first this week. You know, I love picking the quarterbacks, but I'm running out since I'm picking the Colts to win. Then I'll go ahead and pick Jonathan Taylor to to take a touchdown this week against the Titans, 14 and a half point favorite. I feel like he gets it in and as a running back, that'll be my pick. Drew, you have to pick either a wide receiver or a quarterback. You going?

[Drew Franklin]

Last week was my first time doing a corner quarterback and it didn't go well when Jalen Hurts, didn't run and I got problems. So I'm going to go with a receiver. I've already done Jamar Chase, if I'm not mistaken, Right?

[Matt Jones]

You have. Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Give me CD Lamb.

[Matt Jones]

CD Lamb.

[Drew Franklin]

Denver.

[Matt Jones]

CD Lamb is going to be your pick and you will have to live with the consequences. Billy, you have to pick a quarterback. It looks like you have. You have not picked a quarterback before. So you can kind of go, well. No, you've picked well.

[Billy (Producer)]

Jackson dart.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Biggest hit.

[Matt Jones]

Otherwise you can. You kind of go where you want to go. Where you want to go. Yeah.

[Billy (Producer)]

I am going to pick Caleb Williams to score a rushing touchdown against the worst rushing defense in the league, the Baltimore Ravens.

[Matt Jones]

Caleb Williams. All right, so we do a parlay. You get Jonathan Taylor, CD Lamb and Caleb Williams. That would be your NFL cover zero touchdown parlay. I actually Drew think I would kind of like that.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm doing it right now. I love a good touchdown parlay. Do them every week. This one seems like a good one.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I like it. Billy's been surprisingly good at this, even though he picks more and more obscure players. Caleb Williams, though, not a bad one.

[Billy (Producer)]

Oh, you should have heard my receiver pick this week.

[Matt Jones]

Who was it?

[Billy (Producer)]

K? Sean Booty. We can just throw that in. You know, that's a fourth pick for you.

[Matt Jones]

You want to throw a little. Who does he play?

[Billy (Producer)]

The Patriots. He scored three touchdowns last two weeks.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, yeah, I know him. He's good.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah. Big fan.

[Matt Jones]

I hate the Patriots so much.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Why?

[Matt Jones]

Bill Simmons.

[Billy (Producer)]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, and I like Bill Simmons, but I don't want the Patriots to win because of him.

[Billy (Producer)]

Because he's too happy.

[Matt Jones]

Well, just because he comes in like Drake. May's a superstar. You know, everybody's always the best player that ever. I Mean, like, I heard Luke Cornett's gonna be the next Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And you're like, come on, man, just give us a break with this Boston stuff for a minute. And he's been doing this with Drake May forever. So I've kind of wanted Drake May to be a bus. You know, I like the guy that does the show with him. Cousin Sal calls him Drake. Maybe I enjoy that. And I kind of want them to lose for that reason.

[Drew Franklin]

Drake May. Drake maybe has been turning it on to more of a yes here lately, though he is every week looking better and better that he played in Tennessee last week, but still looking good.

[Matt Jones]

He is. So I wanted to ask you one question. I was. I had a listener write in. All right, I'm going to read you the listener question. Here it is. Matt. I would like to know, rank all, all of you, ranked the three stadiums that you would like to visit the most. Okay, so three stadiums you'd like to visit the most. Now for me, Me, I'll let you all think, because I've had a chance. I've been to some stadium, so I'm not going to say I want to visit one that I've been to. So I've been to Soldier Field. I've been in the Bengal Stadium, been in the Middlelands. I've been to Pittsburgh and I've been to Green Bay and I've been to Kansas City and I've been to Dallas. So I've been to a lot of the ones that I think you would. You would really want to go to. So for me, it's going to be fan bases that I really want to go to. So number one, I think it would be buff. I'd want to go to a game in Buffalo. Experience. Kind of that whole. That whole vibe, right? Because you don't get to. You don't get to do that very much. I think, oddly, number two for me is I'd like to go to a big game in Detroit now because with Dan Campbell, it seems like the crowd gets so loud that it would actually be a surprising kind of amount of fun to go. And then for my third, this is a weird pick, but I think the misery and the sadness would be emanating in the air in a way that would be exciting. So I'm going to say Cleveland for the third one. I've been there because I would like to kind of feel the pain in a group setting. What about you?

[Drew Franklin]

You can sit in the dog pound, go through the whole experience. There you go. Liberty Mutual. Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Bundle.

[Drew Franklin]

I've been to Arrowhead, Lambeau, the iconic ones.

[Matt Jones]

I've been there. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

As growing up a Cowboys fan, I haven't seen Jerry World for football. I've seen it for a basketball game.

[Matt Jones]

Never been. That has to be number so.

[Drew Franklin]

Number one, I just never seen the Cowboys in person, and that was my childhood team, so. And my wife's team, she's been wanting to go. That's like our bucket list. We'll get to that soon. When? The next couple years. I'll be there, but still haven't done it. So that's number one. Number two, I'm joining you on Buffalo. Got to get to Buffalo. Really? From as much fun as I had Buffalo, I'd have more fun. I just have the Cowboys fandom, so Buffalo, easy. Number two. Number three. I could go a lot of directions.

[Matt Jones]

But you've been to Green Bay. You have been to Green Bay.

[Drew Franklin]

I've been to Green Bay, Pittsburgh. I've been lucky to go to a lot of them, I think. And it has nothing to do with the stadium. I'm going Vegas because I would like to combine the NFL Sunday with Vegas, the Vegas experience.

[Matt Jones]

It's not so much going to do.

[Drew Franklin]

With the allegiant stadium.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

It's more of the Vegas atmosphere combined with the NFL.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right. That's a fair enough answer. Billy, what about you?

[Billy (Producer)]

So I have not been to Lambeau, so that is number three for me.

[Drew Franklin]

Green Bay.

[Matt Jones]

Look at you, counting up like you're.

[Billy (Producer)]

Running a. I got to make it dramatic.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Billy (Producer)]

Number two, I think it'd be Sofi. Just looks like the pinnacle of technology when it comes to these stadiums.

[Matt Jones]

So you're there for kind of the. The bells and whistles.

[Billy (Producer)]

Yeah, exactly. And then number one's got to be Santa Clara, San Francisco.

[Matt Jones]

If anybody's listening, you're doing that to try to get to go to the Super Bowl.

[Billy (Producer)]

I would love.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting. Love that. Yeah. Well, yeah, that would be. That. That's probably smart, because what if they said to us, all right, we're going to send you to a Browns game. It's where you guys are. Send it to you. Number one. Guys really want to go to a Browns game? All right, fine. We'll send you to a Browns game.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like the Super Bowl. I've driven by the stadium. Stadium in Santa Clara. There wasn't a game going on, but I've at least laid eyeballs on it. So if they need someone that's experienced to get us to go, I will Help lead us to where it is.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Santa Clara is also where. Where. Where Steve Nash went to college, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yep.

[Billy (Producer)]

Didn't know that.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. That's a big reason to send us there if we can go see Steve Nash.

[Drew Franklin]

Did you have any honorable. Honorable mentions? Like, I almost included Soldier Field. That's one of the older ones.

[Matt Jones]

So I went there last year. You know, I, I sitting here, I've forgotten how many of them I've actually been to. I've been to. I've been to the Commanders. I've been to the Eagles, so, I mean, I've kind of been to a lot, so not really a lot of the ones. Okay. I mean, what if they. The three ones, you would want to.

[Drew Franklin]

Go to Lee Nissan Stadium. That's Nashville.

[Matt Jones]

No, I've been to that one, too. You. You don't wait. It's last. Even though it's your team, if you've.

[Drew Franklin]

Been in that second level and seen that concrete crack underneath, you know what's less?

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right, fair enough.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why they're building a new one.

[Matt Jones]

Needs.

[Drew Franklin]

And also you need.

[Matt Jones]

That's why Miami would be number one.

[Billy (Producer)]

I want to try.

[Matt Jones]

It just feels like it has no atmosphere whatsoever during those games. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Not a lot of passion.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it just doesn't feel like it would be fun.

[Billy (Producer)]

You guys didn't like it? I want to try the hot tubs in the Jacksonville.

[Matt Jones]

Those, like, bath.

[Billy (Producer)]

Get me in there with, like, 13 strangers watching the game.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah. Just I, I. If you want to go look at the pictures on the website, like, don't look in person, especially the shot they show every game, which is the bottom half. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

A Carolina game feels like it'd just be me.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Nothing against Charlotte.

[Matt Jones]

It's a good time, but it's fine. But, like, all of Charlotte is a bank. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And I've already seen the NASCAR museum, so what else is there?

[Matt Jones]

What else is there to do? Well, all right. Thank you all very much. We will be back Sunday night to talk about whatever games have occurred. And thank you very much for listening. It's NFL Cover Zero. NFL Cover zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast gas.

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