NFL Cover Zero: Thankful for a long weekend of football!

Summary

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KSR NFL Cover Zero: "Thankful for a Long Weekend of Football!"

Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, and Guest Analyst
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts, Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM), NFL

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into an action-packed NFL weekend spanning Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Sunday games amid chaos for the hosts (UK football coach Mark Stoops was fired). Matt, Drew, and their guest analyst give an energetic recap of the key NFL storylines and games, focusing on surprising upsets, playoff races, and memorable football moments, laced with their classic humor, pop culture tangents, and plenty of food talk.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Delayed Podcast, UK Coaching News & the Thanksgiving Slate

• The episode was recorded late due to the University of Kentucky football coaching change.
• Hosts agree: Thanksgiving delivered great football, perhaps the best Day slate in years.
  • “Maybe the best Thanksgiving day of football in a long time.”—Matt Jones [02:19]

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2. Thanksgiving Night Game: Ravens vs Bengals

• Focus on Joe Burrow’s hair and heartthrob status leads into serious football analysis.
  • “He’s becoming like a 90s teenage male TV heartthrob… Brian Austin Green.” —Matt [03:09]
• Ravens losing ugly at home; confidence in Lamar and the defense gone.
  • “I’m scratching the Ravens off because they just don’t have it. Lamar doesn’t look quite the same.” —Matt [04:01]
  • Drew doubts Ravens’ playoff chances despite not being mathematically out.
• Bengals: Sitting at 4-8, still technically alive if they win out, given division rivals' mediocrity.
  • “If they’re 9-8, they will win the division… that Ravens game in two weeks could be for the division.” —Matt [05:55]
  • Discussion how the AFC North is a mess: Close, ugly games and missed opportunities.

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3. Broadcast Booth Talk, Thanksgiving Culture, & Food

• Banter about why Chris Collinsworth didn’t call the Thanksgiving game (“Dereliction of duties… he not like turkey?”)—Matt [06:57]
• Jokes about Tom Brady’s vegan stuffing and the pregame show.
• Side debate: Corn casserole—the right or wrong Thanksgiving side?
  • “I think you deserve that. I mean, favorite is a little strong for corn casserole, but I like corn casserole.” —Matt [08:57]

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4. Chiefs vs Cowboys: Most Watched Game?

• Hosts marvel at the massive audience: Possibly the highest-viewed regular season game.
  • “If you weren’t watching that game… you should be put in prison.” —Matt [10:29]
• Drew recounts the family ritual of watching the Cowboys, TV on during the blessing [10:50].
• Where’s Taylor Swift? Wonder why she’s not showing up in suite shots—genuine family banter about NFL broadcasting spectacle.
  • “That’s also a dereliction of duty by CBS.”—Matt [11:09]

Chiefs Analysis

• Host Drew has “given up” on the Chiefs as title contenders, but admits he’s flip-flopped all year [11:45].
• Matt: Path for KC still exists if they get hot, “Rocky II moment” could be possible given the home-heavy schedule [12:45].
  • “If they win five straight… Not certain in the AFC, but probably.”—Matt [12:01]

Cowboys Analysis

• Cowboys’ mid/late season surge, defense improvement, big games vs Lions, Vikings, Chargers highlighted.
  • “They’re doing all they can to make that push.” —Drew [16:32]
  • Upcoming games labeled as “loser leaves town” matches.

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5. Packers vs Lions: Lions Letdown, Jordan Love Emerges

• Dan Campbell’s alleged wall punching after the disappointing loss.
• Lions’ coordinator losses discussed for possible struggles.
• Packers praised—Jordan Love’s progress: “Old two out of three, which is two out of three games, he looks like Mahomes…” —Matt [22:50]
  • “If he ever becomes old three out of four, we might have a Super Bowl winner.” —Matt [23:16]

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6. Bears Beat Eagles: Potential Playoff Hope

• Bears’ road win in Philadelphia; Caleb Williams “wasn’t great,” but team dominated.
  • “This Bears team...maybe they can win a game or two.”—Matt [24:50]
  • Drew notes Bears ran for nearly 300 yards on the Eagles' top defense.
• Philly fans’ reputation for meanness confirmed.
  • “Their fans are so mean… my mom was very disappointed in them.”—Matt [26:21]
• Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown called out; parallels to Stephon Marbury’s shoe brand, Starbury, tangent.

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7. Pop Culture Tangents & Humor

• Spoiler debate: Matt may have spoiled “Stranger Things”, playful bickering ensues [13:09–15:14].
• Steven Berries and $10 hoodies nostalgia (Kentucky mall stories) [29:39–31:23].
• “Whoop! There it is” originated as “Whoop! Here I am” according to Matt.
• Best NFL players to fear in a fight; fun lists from all hosts [57:56].
  • “Maxx Crosby… He has nothing, nothing to lose.” —Drew [58:08]
  • QBs you’d want or not want to fight sparks more laughter (“I could beat up Brock Purdy.” –Matt [60:17])

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8. Sunday’s Notable Games & Playoff Race Rundown

Panthers Upset Rams [32:26]

• Emotional Carolina win, Matthew Stafford's bad fumble, Panthers dangerous in playoff chase.
  • “I still don’t know if Bryce Young’s good or not… but he’s fun.” —Matt [35:17]

Texans Edge Colts; AFC South Mayhem [41:24]

• CJ Stroud huge for Houston; Texans now 7-5, AFC South more competitive than expected.
  • “Supposed to be the worst division in football and it’s the most competitive.” —Matt [42:34]
  • Will Anderson praised as a monster on D-line.

49ers Beat Browns [43:41]

• Shedeur Sanders called out for attitude postgame.
• Billy Harold Fannin Jr. (Bowling Green local) catches a TD; local pride!

NFC South: Bucs, Panthers, Falcons, and Saints

• Division still up for grabs; end-of-season games to decide race.
• “They play Carolina two of the last three weeks. Those games will decide the division.” —Guest Analyst [47:06]

Jets, Tyrod Taylor

• Tyrod Taylor “man of the people” in another Jets win.
  • “Tell me he’s 27 or 47 and I’m not sure.” —Matt [48:32]

Titans Update & Will Levis

• Drew’s team struggling, coach “just holding the job,” nostalgia for recent AFC Championship run.
  • “Will Levis still has life in the NFL.” —Drew [51:04]

Vikings, Seahawks & Minnesota QB Woes

• Max Brosmer has a historically terrible outing; Vikings are collapsing [51:30].
• “More interceptions than points… pretty rough day.” —Drew [52:13]

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9. Miscellaneous Fun & Observations

• Open playoff field: Hosts note “no one looks truly good,” meaning it's anyone’s Super Bowl this year.
  • “If no one is good, then everyone is good.”—Matt [70:28]
• Trivia, weekly knockout pool banter, Survivor pool stories.
• Drew shamefully admits to watching a Hallmark Bills Christmas movie filmed in the same Buffalo bar they visited for ESPN [65:01].

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10. Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “If you weren’t watching that game… you should be put in prison.” —Matt Jones, on Chiefs/Cowboys [10:29]
• “He’s becoming like a 90s teenage male TV heartthrob… Brian Austin Green.” —Matt Jones, on Joe Burrow [03:09]
• “Corn casserole… just butter. Depending if you want more of a runny or a fritter, but like condensed milk, just unhealthy stuff.” —Drew Franklin [09:24]
• “I’m scratching the Ravens off because they just don’t have it. Lamar doesn’t look quite the same.” —Matt Jones [04:01]
• "Supposed to be the worst division in football and it's the most competitive..." —Matt [42:34]
• "That was the first game to win on the road in Philadelphia that I thought, okay, this isn't just a team that can make the playoffs. Maybe they can win a game or two." —Matt, Bears postgame [24:43]
• “If no one is good, then everyone is good.” —Matt, on the wide-open playoff race [70:28]
• “Maxx Crosby… He has nothing, nothing to lose.” —Drew, on list of scariest NFL players [58:08]

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Timed Highlights

• 02:19 — Thanksgiving Football: High praise for the day’s slate
• 04:01 — Ravens vs Bengals dissected, Ravens “scratched off” as contenders
• 10:29 — Chiefs/Cowboys: Must-watch game of the holiday, Swift/Kelsey watch
• 16:32 — Cowboys’ playoff path and remaining schedule
• 22:50 — Jordan Love “2 out of 3” theory, Packers optimism
• 24:50 — Bears dominate Eagles; playoff hopes rise
• 32:26 — Panthers upset Rams, Stafford costly turnover
• 41:24 — Texans beat Colts, AFC South is chaos
• 51:30 — Vikings’ disastrous QB play, Seahawks shutout
• 57:56 — Scariest NFL Players You’d Least Want to Fight: Maxx Crosby tops the list
• 60:17 — QBs you could (maybe) beat up: Brock Purdy, Jared Goff, Russ Wilson
• 64:54 — Bills bounce back, Drew confesses to watching Hallmark Bills love story movie

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Tone and Takeaways

• Energetic, witty, irreverent, and deeply knowledgeable; plenty of family and Kentucky flavor.
• Food and pop culture tangents add character and fun (corn casserole, Stranger Things, Starburys).
• Playoff implications and power rankings discussed, but with skepticism: few teams seem elite.
• Audience engagement: Hosts make their analysis relatable, speaking as fans and friends, not just pundits.

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Conclusion

This episode is a quintessential KSR blend of NFL breakdown, comic relief, pop culture sidebars, and Kentucky pride. For fans wanting insider insight, family banter, or just laughs, it’s a goldmine—especially if you want to feel like you spent Thanksgiving weekend dissecting football and casseroles with friends.

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Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Welcome to Week 13 NFL Cover 0 here in Lexington, Kentucky. We've been dealing Sorry for the late arrival of today's podcast. We've been dealing with the firing of UK football coach Mark Stoops. So last night we were not able to tape so it's coming a little late, but it's here and thank you all very much for tuning in. Drew, some of these games we're going to talk about were days ago but we haven't talked about them yet and I actually think the most important parts of the weekend were Thanksgiving. Maybe the best Thanksgiving day of football in a long time.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh what an awesome day 2 out of 3 good games. But even the night game with Burrow coming back, it was just a full slate of sitting there eating all the food I can possibly eat and daring someone to touch my remote. When the NFL was on tv.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean, I was actually. I actually followed the. Even the night game because of the Burrow piece. What do you think of his hair? It's really long. He's kind of like he's becoming like a 90s teenager male TV like heartthrob with all that hair to parted into the front. Looks like Brian Austin Green.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Are we going to go back to listing Tiger Beat bottles here?

[Matt Jones]

I mean, this is a very specific one. Looks like he would be on 902 and oh, Melrose Place, maybe even the Heights. Ray, how do you talk to an angel?

[Drew Franklin]

He's just. He's at that. That stratosphere where he can do whatever he wants. He can show up with a blue mohawk and everyone's just going to fawn over him. He's at that level. He wears whatever he wants.

[Matt Jones]

That's true.

[Drew Franklin]

The hairstyle.

[Matt Jones]

He did that M and M thing.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, yeah, sometimes he wears baggy clay. He looks like a marshmallow walking into the stadium. But I mean, he pulls it off because he's Joe Burrow. He's cooler than I could ever think about being.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we might as well start with that game since we're talking about it. The Ravens of the teams that I thought were a contender coming in the year, I think that's going to be the first one I'm going to scratch off. We'll talk about the Chiefs in a minute. I still can't completely scratch them off yet, but I'm scratching the Ravens off because they just don't have it. Lamar doesn't look quite the same. But more importantly, their defense, they just. They just don't have it. And it took me until this game against the Bengals. You get wiped out at home on Thanksgiving when the other team was playing on four days rest too, and they had to come to your place. I'm just. They don't have it.

[Drew Franklin]

This being a divisional rivalry, they're playing for the playoffs. Primetime tv. Sure, burrows back, but he hadn't thrown a football in a game in forever. They absolutely dropped the ball. I think back to that week one game against Buffalo. Derrick Henry was unstoppable. And I'm thinking he's. Henry's going to do it again. But he's cooled off since the beginning of the year. Lamar seems to have lost a step I just. I mean, they're not mathematically out, but I mean, they. I have no faith in them doing anything the rest of the year.

[Matt Jones]

And the beagles on the other hand, 4 and 8, I mean, they're not a contender, are they? There's. I mean. But if they were to win out, we're going to talk about two or three teams today where I'm going to have to say if they win out, which sounds silly, but they actually could do it. I mean, you look at the Bengal schedule, they are 4 and 8. And there's some losses in here like the jets that they've got to be going crazy about, but they're at the Bills. Okay, that's a very hard game Sunday. But then you got Ravens at home, at Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns. So it sort of sets up. If you could just win Sunday in Buffalo, why can't they win the division?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm watching them and you know, the two teams ahead of them, Steelers, Ravens, we just mentioned those aren't world beaters. If they can win one, you get to that stretch where you have those three very winnable games in the year. I could see the Bengals finishing strong and sliding into the final hour.

[Matt Jones]

If they're 9 and 8, they will win the division. What's interesting is they might win it at 8, 9 or be in a tie at 8. 9. That Ravens game in two weeks could be actually a game for the division. Oddly, I still don't. I still hate their team. I still think it's like burrow, they got three good wide receivers and then that's it. But they've been in a lot of close games. I mean, they blew the jets game. I don't want to say they blew the Bears game, but they, they could have won the Bears game. The Bears dominated that game, but almost gave it away at the end. Like, they could be six and six pretty easily. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

And that's exactly what Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I mean, they could be in a tie for the division if they just handle. Finish the job against New York and Chicago.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Why didn't. Why does Chris Collinsworth not do the Thanksgiving game?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

Jason Garrett did it. And here's what I'm thinking. It's the Bengals, your team. Right. It's Thanksgiving, but he didn't do it. Tariko does both. Why is Collinsworth think he's.

[Drew Franklin]

Think he's better Thanksgiving?

[Matt Jones]

I think he's anti Thanksgiving.

[Drew Franklin]

Could it be he does this.

[Matt Jones]

He not like turkey.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe he ate too much and literally they could not slide him into the frame. So they had to call someone in.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. I feel like Chris Collinsworth. I turn on that game at night, there are going to be more people watching that game than watch the game on Sunday night.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So why are you not. Why are you not there? Chris Collinsworth.

[Drew Franklin]

He was at the family dinner table.

[Matt Jones]

Dereliction of duties. Dereliction. Dare. Election.

[Drew Franklin]

That's. That's. That's a big word for me.

[Matt Jones]

It's Darrell. Let's just say liction. Why is that not. Is it a dereliction of duties? This is Thanksgiving. Even Tom. You think Tom Brady wanted to be in Detroit? See his glasses? I mean, did you see. I mean, you. Tom Brady was like, yeah, I want to stand in the cold in Detroit next to Kurt Minifee. He still shows up.

[Drew Franklin]

Do they even have avocados in Detroit? What did he eat?

[Matt Jones]

I actually heard him say during the. I. I don't know why I watched that pregame show. They were asking him what he eats, and he said, vegan stuffing, which I don't know what that means. What is vegan stuffing? I don't know. But everything he eats is making a bad look for Collinsworth not to.

[Guest Analyst]

I do. Only because Trico showed up like, that's your other guy.

[Matt Jones]

If you went to team two, I get it. But Tirico's there, and Tirico's gotta be like, excuse me, where's my guy? Dude, I do it all. I do the Olympics. I do the derby. I do Indy 500. You think I want to be at the Indy 500? That's probably what Tirico says.

[Drew Franklin]

Tirico's thinking, I haven't seen my family on Thanksgiving in 30 years. Where are you, buddy?

[Matt Jones]

I'm in Italy for three and a half weeks and see, sit in the snow.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think Collinsworth was at home grunting while he ate his food? Do you think they had, like, the.

[Matt Jones]

Family spread the corn casserole?

[Drew Franklin]

I really just wanted to set you up to do that again.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, I like corn casserole. Everybody has been mocking that recently. Didn't you say that was your favorite?

[Guest Analyst]

Got a lot of crap for my favorite side.

[Matt Jones]

I think you deserve that. I mean, favorite is a little strong for corn casserole, but I like corn casserole.

[Guest Analyst]

Casseroles are necessary on Thanksgiving, people.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it is Thanksgiving unless you have a casserole. Now, I have never even fathomed making a casserole. I don't know what. What you. How you would do it. But I like them.

[Drew Franklin]

That one's very easy.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Drew Franklin]

Corn casserole.

[Matt Jones]

What's in it?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Corn.

[Drew Franklin]

Just butter.

[Matt Jones]

Corn, butter and whatever.

[Drew Franklin]

Depending if you're one more of a runny or a fritter, but like condensed milk, just unhealthy stuff. And then sprinkle a little corn in there.

[Matt Jones]

You're telling me it's not healthy? No, see, I eat a lot of it because it feels healthy, because it's a vegetable.

[Drew Franklin]

My aunt's broccoli and cheese casserole, which is my favorite. It is mostly cheese, Ritz crackers and butter. And then there's like one little broccoli and it's perfect. It's the best way to eat vegetables.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I just thought you took too much crap for the corn casserole thing. Just for the record, I actually think that's good as well. Chiefs and Cowboys. I mean, to me this is. Have the numbers come out yet? Is this the highest most watched regular season game ever? That'll probably come out today or tomorrow. I mean, if they have not said it yet, I think it's going to end up being the most watched regular season game ever. They're. They're saying it could be over 50 million people, which they've never gotten. Who in America was not watching that? I mean, Mahomes, Kelsey, the Cowboys, Thanksgiving. Honestly, you should be.

[Drew Franklin]

You.

[Matt Jones]

You probably should be put in prison if you weren't watching that game. I would not trust anyone that didn't have that game on.

[Drew Franklin]

Agree with you. It should be higher than Turke on your Thanksgiving checklist. That game.

[Matt Jones]

That specifically. Because it's those two teams. It's the Cowboys and the most marketable team. If it's. I understand if you're like, well, it's a Colts, but yes, Chiefs, Cowboys, you gotta watch.

[Drew Franklin]

Have to. And I grew up in a Cowboys family. We were sitting down to eat about the first quarter, like my dad's saying the blessing and the TV is louder than us saying our prayer before eating because we have to be locked in on the Cowboys game.

[Matt Jones]

And is Taylor Swift not going to the games anymore?

[Guest Analyst]

I think she's taking a step back. Too much. Too much tension. Last year.

[Drew Franklin]

It's the holidays.

[Matt Jones]

But why would she not be there first of all? Or is she there and they're not showing her, at which point that's also a dereliction of duty by the by, by cbs. I mean, you should see her like, Travis Kelsey scored.

[Guest Analyst]

Are you expecting it? Every time he makes a play now it's a holiday.

[Drew Franklin]

They have sweets There.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I should see her once for every 10 times I see Diego Pavia's mom.

[Guest Analyst]

You're right about that.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like I should see her sometimes.

[Drew Franklin]

That was a big talking point with my family. Everyone's like, where is she? Has she popped up yet?

[Matt Jones]

Have you given up on the Chiefs? They're now six and six. Oh, you have?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

You're done.

[Drew Franklin]

But I've also done this just about every week, and they've shut me up a week later. This, for me, almost was more about, do the Cowboys have life?

[Matt Jones]

Don't skip over the Chiefs yet.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Do you? I agree with you.

[Drew Franklin]

That was bad loss. Bad loss for them. And the Broncos just keep winning.

[Matt Jones]

But, I mean, they're not going to win the division. This is now about a wild card. Yeah. If they go 11 and 6, they probably would get a wild card. Not certain in the afc, but probably. So you got to win five straight. You don't think they can win five straight?

[Drew Franklin]

Let me pull up their exact schedule, but no, they've been so inconsistent this year.

[Matt Jones]

They play the Texans this week at home.

[Advertiser]

They're hot.

[Matt Jones]

Chargers at home at Titans, Broncos at home at Raiders. They have three hard games, but they're all at home.

[Drew Franklin]

Titans, Raiders. That's like the free square on bingo. We're going to give you that.

[Matt Jones]

Can they beat the Texans, Chargers and Broncos home three weeks in a row?

[Guest Analyst]

No, that's.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a big slate.

[Matt Jones]

It's hard, but they're all at home.

[Drew Franklin]

They are all at home.

[Matt Jones]

You know, they say, like in Rocky 2, it was only when his back was against the wall that he found his inner ability is. This could be their Rocky 2 moment. Remember, Stallone actually wins in Rocky 2. People forget he loses in Rocky 1. Spoiler alert.

[Drew Franklin]

Dang it.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, could have watched that when I got home. I have a question for you. Do you watch Stranger Things?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Spoiler alert. Stranger Things spoiler See, that's a pro.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a man who cares about his audience.

[Matt Jones]

We had on Matt Myron, the dad from Stranger Things. Hop. That was his name. Isn't there a dad? Hopper. Hopper. Yeah. We had his him on and KSR curse. Apparently he almost dies in the first episode of the new season.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, Mario didn't like that. Damn.

[Matt Jones]

Was.

[Drew Franklin]

He did it again.

[Matt Jones]

Mad at me. And they say it's a spoiler. Why is that a spoiler?

[Drew Franklin]

It just came out. You can't just be.

[Matt Jones]

It's episode one and he doesn't look at Mario's face.

[Drew Franklin]

He Obviously hasn't seen it yet. We've been busy, though.

[Matt Jones]

Like, it happens apparently, right at the beginning. He's not even an important character, is he?

[Drew Franklin]

You want to tell people what happens in the diner in the Sopranos?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we don't know. Okay. So that's my point. Is that bad to say?

[Drew Franklin]

I think if a show is as big as that, it's only been out a week. You gotta.

[Matt Jones]

It wasn't the ending of the show. It's something that happens in the first episode.

[Drew Franklin]

But you just saw Mario Cosmere gets.

[Matt Jones]

In a car crash and almost dies.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, Mario, start on episode two.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Now you got it.

[Drew Franklin]

People are excited to watch it. They've waited a long time for this.

[Matt Jones]

Well, now they know what's gonna happen. But it's not like he's the main character, as I understand. Like, he doesn't. Part of why we had him on the show is because we could get him.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he's one of the main characters. He's probably the most consistent character on the entire show outside.

[Matt Jones]

No, he's not the most consistent character.

[Drew Franklin]

Outside of the kids that are now, like, 30.

[Matt Jones]

Definitely the dad.

[Guest Analyst]

He is the father figure to the main character.

[Drew Franklin]

Of all the people that are characters now, he's the only one that goes.

[Matt Jones]

All he does is go like, hey, Brian, be home by nine. Is that not all he does? He obviously has a car wreck and nearly dies, apparently. To be fair, Mark, I've never seen an episode, so do you consider that a spoiler? Yeah. Okay. Anyway. Why did I bring that up?

[Drew Franklin]

We were talking about the Chief.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

Chiefs 1. One point I was about to make on the Chief.

[Matt Jones]

I have no idea.

[Drew Franklin]

You done that.

[Matt Jones]

What did that have to do with the Chiefs?

[Drew Franklin]

Why did I say, oh, yeah, Hopper was your guest picker.

[Matt Jones]

What did that have to do with the game?

[Guest Analyst]

Did he pick that game?

[Matt Jones]

This was a game. I don't know what he picked.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he just wanted to ruin Mario's day.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Drew Franklin]

Anyway, I was going to add that of the games you listed on the Chief schedule, they've already lost the Broncos and already lost to the Chargers week ones. There's a little bit of redemption factor here, too.

[Matt Jones]

That Chargers reason that I don't think they're going to lose this. So. All right, let's talk about the Cowboys. Do you. Are they for real? They're now, what, six, five and one? Seven. Five and one? What are they? Six, five, and one?

[Drew Franklin]

The time might actually help them. I'm worried it's it's too late. But adding Quinn and Williams from the jets has been huge. He's been awesome. Some guys on defense have gotten healthy. I mean, Pickens, Lamb and Dak have been amazing.

[Matt Jones]

I mean that's been unbelievable.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the best offense going right now. But the defense has been so bad all year until just recently. That defense has turned a corner. But I'm just worried with the standings it might just be a couple weeks behind. But they're in the hunt. I had them losing the last two weeks, Eagles and Chiefs, and they won both of them. So they're, they're doing all they can to make that push.

[Matt Jones]

Their schedule is tough. Lions, Vikings, Chargers. Well, actually not terrible lines. Vikings, Chargers, Commanders, Giants. So navigable. That's a big one coming up against the Lions. And that's Thursday night. That might even be like a loser leaves town. You think so?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And yet another game. I know the Cowboys. America's team. I get it. They're prime time a lot. Do they only play Sunday night, Monday night or Thursday night? Now it feels like or thanks to every week a Cowboys are like the game it seems here lately and now we're getting it again Thursday. But I'm glad it is because I do think the loser this, this could be a knockout game even though there's still a few weeks left.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I, I'm, I think they, I think it is a loser leaves town match. And I'm also pretty big on the Cowboys. I think they've looked good even in a couple of their losses before that I think they had looked good.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it's going to turn out, you know, it was a bad PR move losing Michael Parker.

[Matt Jones]

They both do well from it with.

[Drew Franklin]

The picks they got and then going out and getting Williams who's been a stud. I mean the Cowboys could end up winning that deal if they if they.

[Matt Jones]

Might be a trade that helped both people.

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[Matt Jones]

The early game was Packers Lions as we talked about. I would admit to only seeing parts of this game because I was at my family's Thanksgiving playing pool with Mario and my family eating casseroles. But I did see the ending and I heard that Dan Campbell punched a wall. He was so upset. That is not the Thanksgiving Spirit that I like to hear. But I understand as the Lions continue to disappoint.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Team I thought could be an NFC contender for a 1 seed earlier in the year is now fighting to stay in the playoffs. It's your hol holiday. It's Thanksgiving. You got a rival, you got to finish the job. And that was a tough loss Gibbs had at home. Yeah, at home, Gibbs had a terrible game. A guy that's been awesome for them lately giving up 31 points to the Packers. Just. Just a bad look all the way around.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I would you think not having Ben Johnson. Matt matters or even Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn. Do you think losing the coordinators affected the Lions more than. Probably a lot of people thought it would?

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[Matt Jones]

I mean, Ben Johnson especially looks different.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And you know, we'll get to Ben Johnson. He's about as hot as anyone right now. But yeah, losing him had to be big. They've still been able to score some points, but they should be able to score points with the offense they have. I mean, they have some absolute weapons. And that's why last Thursday was so disappointing for a guy like Gibbs who just finds the end zone. It's routine for him. They just couldn't get much going.

[Matt Jones]

I think that. I think the packers are. I'm not going to. I'm still putting the Rams as my favorite from the nfc, but the packers to me, might be second. I think they're really, really good. And I think Jordan Love, with Jordan Love, he. I call him two out of three. I said that. Like I always call him that. I'm giving him that name. And I want to act like I've been always calling him two out of three.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

But old two out of three, which is two out of three games, he looks like Mahomes. And then one game he disappoints you. But I think what's good is his disappointing games have. Are becoming less and less putrid. So that way old two out of three, if he gives you two great performances and one mediocre, you can win with that. And if he ever becomes old three out of four, oh, then we might have a potential super bowl winner.

[Drew Franklin]

And their two stars were huge in this game. Love had like four touchdowns, no interceptions. And we mentioned the Cowboys trader big, Micah Parsons. Parsons is the big reason Gibbs didn't have much a game. He absolutely wrecked them. Great. All the way, all around game for the Packers. But those two, specifically their stars on each side of the ball, showed up on Thanksgiving Day.

[Matt Jones]

This was definitely the okay Micah Parsons, you know, you know, think about him. He's played on Thanksgiving, like, all the time. He probably thought when he got. When he was like, oh, if you ever leave the Cowboys, at least I'll have Thanksgiving off. Nope.

[Drew Franklin]

They get three sacks. I mean, he was. He lived in the backfield.

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

Golf still had a pretty good game, but, I mean, Parsons was eating them off.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So nice win there. Now it's time to talk about thing people care about the most. Chicago Bears Friday. They looked great. I mean, they. They were the best team throughout the game. They dominated the game. Caleb Williams actually wasn't great. I mean, I actually don't think he played particularly well. And they still won. And that's what's making me excited is this Bears team. I'm not going to act like it's the great Bears defenses of the 80s and even the 90et, but they're good. But the playmakers, the receivers, swift. And then Caleb, even though I don't think he played great, you get him out of the pocket and you get him scrambling and things start happening. And that was the first game to win on the road in Philadelphia that I thought, okay, this isn't just a team that can make the playoffs. Maybe they can win a game or two.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Philly's got some offensive problems, but their defense has been their calling card all year. That defense has been awesome. And the Bears almost ran for 300 yards on the defense. I mean, they had two running backs, 120 ish each, maybe even more.

[Matt Jones]

And pretty much whatever they wanted to run the football, they could. They ran up the middle. They were able to get on the corners. And it just looked to me like the Eagles were baffled by the whole thing. And then of course, their offense, I mean, there were. There are Philly fans calling for Jalen Hurts. What's the backup's name? Tommy Branch or something like that. Is that his name? I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

The fact that.

[Matt Jones]

No, I think his name is like Tommy Branch. See if that's his name. What does it say?

[Guest Analyst]

Well, Kenny Pickett is the AI answer initially, but that's not as much.

[Drew Franklin]

We don't have to go to AI.

[Guest Analyst]

For looking up charts. There's a Tanner McKee and a Sam Howell.

[Matt Jones]

Tanner McKee is the backup?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's second string.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So that's kind of like Tommy Branch.

[Drew Franklin]

From Stanford, by the way. Just QBU.

[Matt Jones]

Is he.

[Drew Franklin]

Is he a rookie 2023 draft pick?

[Matt Jones]

All right, so Tanner McKee. But there were fans saying, put in Tommy Branch because they Thought that was his name, but I see why you got confused.

[Drew Franklin]

His own team.

[Matt Jones]

Fans were calling. The teammates were like, how's. How's Tommy doing over there? They're often. I had not watched a full Eagles game with sound because I'm always watching Red Zone. Their fans are so mean. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

They live up to that reputation.

[Matt Jones]

Why are they so mean? I mean, they're always booing people. My mom was very disappointed in them.

[Drew Franklin]

On a holiday weekend, everyone's with their families, and they're out booing people.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, can you imagine going out with your family on Thanksgiving and just yelling and being angry?

[Drew Franklin]

Let's go boo the quarterback that just won us a Super Bowl. Honey, you're done eating. Let's go. Boo.

[Matt Jones]

Jalen hurts.

[Drew Franklin]

It is wild that after he had the big gear and the Nike ads come out, there are people like, is he even a top 15 quarterback? And maybe he's.

[Matt Jones]

And it looks like Saquon's already washed. Like, it looks like running back. Running backs really hit a wall. They just stink immediately. Like, they have a moment, however long it is. And there's no, like, nice, graceful aging. You just all of a sudden show up with sunspots and moles, and you're hideous. And I feel like that's what's happened to Saquon Barkley.

[Drew Franklin]

He's got to still be tired from last year. I think he has one game this year with 100 yards, which is nuts after he about ran for a billion last year.

[Matt Jones]

And it's where they've thrown the ball a lot to A.J. brown, and it's caused him to lose. So do you think that A.J. brown. Same. Throw me the ball. Throw me the ball. The ball has actually had the opposite effect.

[Drew Franklin]

AJ has been too much of a story this year.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Arthur Juan, as I call him, I'm still a big fan. Never should have left Nashville. But, I mean, it's every other week. He's a talking point that really has nothing to do with the game. And at some point, you got to look in the mirror. You are being a distraction and whining too much. I know you're a receiver, and that kind of comes with the brand, but he's been too much.

[Matt Jones]

I'm trying to think of, like, players over the years that. But the better they do individually, the worse the team is. Right. Because I think that's him. A little bit like Stephon Marbury.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow. Pulled that out of nowhere.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, Steph was. First of all, I like Steph because he sold $20 shoes.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

At Dick and Larry's or Dick and Harry's. Steven Berries.

[Drew Franklin]

There you go. All in with the names today.

[Matt Jones]

No, the name of the place was Stephen Berries, and they had. And Steph Marbury would sell Starberries.

[Drew Franklin]

Great name, by the way.

[Matt Jones]

And I believe they were, like, $20. I actually thought it was a really cool thing they did. And I don't even have one. I'd like to have a pair of Starberries because Dick and Larry's is no longer open.

[Drew Franklin]

He and Shaq both did that. Hey, shoes are expensive. I'm a big name. I'm gonna make some cheap ones. Shaq did that. Yeah. Shaq moved his to Walmart. I think they both get great now.

[Matt Jones]

They do. Shaq shoes were really ugly, though. Like, they really only fit feet his size.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe he didn't even have a choice. That was his last option.

[Matt Jones]

But Starberries were actually not bad. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And he's like a legend in China. I think he went and played overseas.

[Matt Jones]

For a little while.

[Drew Franklin]

He's the greatest basketball player of all time.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, they. They. They think he's so.

[Drew Franklin]

He's A.J.

[Matt Jones]

Brown. Yeah. Because A.J. brown, when he's, like. When he's doing well, the team is struggling, at least in Philly.

[Drew Franklin]

Philly. I cannot. Again, a lot of these teams, the teams we thought were just going to be awesome this year, as we're getting towards the end of the year, they're going the wrong direction. And it's been shocking to me that so many of them. Ravens that we've mentioned. Bills have bad losses. Chiefs were wondering if they can get in. I wouldn't have believed that if you'd said that in September.

[Matt Jones]

You know, Billy, a young Matt Jones really likes Stephen Barry's because they brought one to Middlesboro. It replaced the Kmart, and it was in the Middlesboro Mall. And it was all, like, the only thing they sold were hoodies. And they were all like, $10, like, every hoodie. And so you could in Middlesborough, Kentucky, in the middle of Appalachia, go get a hoodie for, like, any sports team on earth. And it was $10. It was. I don't even. How did they do it?

[Drew Franklin]

Are these two people Steve and Barry, or is it Steve and Barry?

[Matt Jones]

Steve and Barry.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. Two dudes.

[Matt Jones]

I never heard of Steve and Barry. You've never heard of this place?

[Drew Franklin]

We had a Hibbett and a Roses, but I never.

[Matt Jones]

You never heard of Steve and Barry's was the greatest place.

[Drew Franklin]

They make it to Western.

[Matt Jones]

$20. Starberries. And $10 hoodies. And I kind of got into hoodies through those. I've given them all away because this may surprise you. They weren't the most durable hoodies at $10.

[Drew Franklin]

Had the super bowl champs for the wrong team.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think it was one of those.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Jones]

Where you got, you know, I don't think it was. This wasn't a, you know, Bill's champion. It was just. But, like, you could get a Wyoming hoodie in Middlesbrough, Kentucky, and that was kind of exciting. Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

I looked them up, man. They went bankrupt in 2009.

[Matt Jones]

I can see why the profit margin could not have been high.

[Drew Franklin]

They're just sitting on a storage unit full of Wyoming hoodies right now.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Anyway.

[Guest Analyst]

Blew your mind, though, at a young age, seeing all those hoodies.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, I was in high school and like, you could tell when they got a new batch too. That though, because all of a sudden Middlesboro High School would have like 15 Wyoming fans. And it was like we all acted like we separately became Wyoming fans.

[Drew Franklin]

But no, that was just the Christmas gift.

[Matt Jones]

Steven Barry just got new, new hoodies.

[Drew Franklin]

This has been an informative podcast. I've already learned I don't have to watch Stranger Things this season. And there's a retailer I never would know about.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. Mario. Spoiler alert.

[Guest Analyst]

Mario's not happy about this.

[Matt Jones]

He's okay. He has a car wreck and then he's all right.

[Drew Franklin]

And then he gets up.

[Matt Jones]

He's all right.

[Drew Franklin]

Then he gets up and kills the day.

[Matt Jones]

I think he's in a coma. I don't know. No, to be fair, I don't know. I don't know that he's in a coma. I've just heard he's in a coma.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, thank you for relaying that.

[Matt Jones]

Let's.

[Drew Franklin]

One less thing I gotta watch.

[Matt Jones]

Let's go to the Sunday game. It was, by the way, it was Maggie Simpson that shot Mr. Burnout.

[Guest Analyst]

The baby.

[Matt Jones]

If you were wondering. You are going to give us the lead on all these Sunday games. What was the first one?

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah. So I think the biggest game in the one o' clock slate, where it was the Panthers beating the Rams 31 to 28. Matthew Stafford hasn't thrown a pick since week.

[Drew Franklin]

350,000. That's right.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. I had him on. On Matt Myron. He was the guest picker and he sang this live acapella. Wow, that's incredible. A pella.

[Guest Analyst]

That was the juju they needed. Well, Carolina has seven wins. It's the most since 2022. Matthew Stafford had thrown only two interceptions all year. He threw for two in this game and had a big fumble at the end of the game. But Puka Nukua had a big catch. Devonte Adams passed Antonio Gates on most career receiving touchdowns. But this was all about Carolina and their big win.

[Matt Jones]

It was. It was actually a. It was probably the Panthers crowd. I don't know when I've heard them that loud because every Panthers touchdown was insane. It would not. They would like throw a miracle pass or Bryce Young would be getting tackled and he would throw. It was a great game and I think they did it for Carolina. Mike, who told me on the pregame show, Drew that he wrote the song in 2023 and he said it didn't get a lot of attention. So in 2025, he was trying to think how to start his career and he goes, what if I write a second verse to 150,000 and it was the second verse that propelled it to success.

[Drew Franklin]

I like that. That's a man who believed in what he had. He just had to tweak it a little bit. Many people would have given up. I tried that song didn't work. What's next? No, he said, I just need to make a few little changes and this is going to take off. And it did.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of people don't know this, like, whoop, there it is. Started as whoop, here I am two years before. And then they went, let's try this again. Switched it to there it is. The rest is history.

[Drew Franklin]

Tough loss for the Rams though.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that may cost them the one seat.

[Drew Franklin]

They were in the field goal range there to tie it at the end when Stafford had the bad fumble. Just a horrible mistake for him on top of him.

[Matt Jones]

Surprising for him to do that, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but I mean, they were kind of in cheap shot territory and could have. Could have tied it up and he completely dropped the ball.

[Matt Jones]

And now I heard his mvp. Will you remember that when you vote?

[Drew Franklin]

As long as they finish strong. Probably not. His year has still been incredible. The run he was on before this game, you don't see quarterbacks through that. But I mean, this is a big stain losing to the Panthers.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. And as for the Panthers, super, not super bowl playoffs. I mean, they sit there right now, they are 7 and 6 chance.

[Drew Franklin]

Wouldn't that be something? I'm rooting for it. I mean, I can't be a fan of every NFL team like Billy over here, but I mean, they're off this week. Your Bears, these Panthers. I'm loving new names that are popping up and making a run. It's been good for the NFL and fun to watch.

[Matt Jones]

I still don't know if Bryce Young's good or not.

[Drew Franklin]

I like, he talks like he's good. He said something.

[Matt Jones]

I still kind of don't think he's good, but he's fun. You never know what's going to happen.

[Drew Franklin]

He still just looks so tiny out there to me. But he said something at the game about how pressure doesn't bother him. He's talking like he's Tom Brady when they're putting the mic in front of him.

[Matt Jones]

He kind of reminds me of like a George Wow. Bush speech, which is overall, maybe effective, but there are going to be some moments you're like, what are you. What are you. What are you talking about?

[Drew Franklin]

By the way, speeches.

[Matt Jones]

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, can't be fooled again. We doing that. What?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't want to go backwards too much, but I meant to ask you, what did you think about a different game? We've already covered your boy Ben Johnson ripping his shirt off in the Bears game.

[Matt Jones]

I think there's too much shirt ripping off now. I think that used to be the kind of thing you did, like once every three or four years. And now because of McAfee, it's like everybody rips their shirt off all the time. So it's. For me, it's a little much. I do enjoy his post game speeches. I enjoy the whole filming people's post game speeches. It's one of my favorite things. Carolina Hurricanes at hockey. Been doing that for a while. Rod Brindemore does speeches and he just says the F word every three seconds. And to beep it, the official account just plays the hockey horn and it just does one after another. And I look forward to him every game. It's becoming like that with the NFL. I enjoy watching and Ben Johnson might be the best at it.

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[Drew Franklin]

And now I am worried. He see each week we're getting a little raunchier. Shirt was off this week.

[Matt Jones]

It's going to come out like Madonna in her sex book soon.

[Drew Franklin]

They keep winning. Do whatever he wants.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he's. You talk about the toast of the town. I'm excited. As a Bears fan, I still. I mean, I don't. I think we're for real in the sense that we're good. I do not think we're a contender, but I think they're young.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the key.

[Matt Jones]

They've got a lot of playmakers. I mean I think we're starting a period that if Caleb keeps improving we could be a contender next year or the next year.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree. I'm happy for you for reason some someone who has no joy in their football life right now. I'm glad at least some people on this podcast can smile.

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[Matt Jones]

Who's next?

[Guest Analyst]

We are a Davis Mills podcast. But it was CJ Stroud that came back for the Texans and threw for almost 300 yards to beat the Colts 2016 in Indiana. Houston's now 7 and 5 while India's 8 and 4 making up some ground in the division. This was a big game for Houston.

[Matt Jones]

Great game too. And Houston was the better team. And when Davis Mills is your mentor, you, you can be very effective. And I, I thought it was actually a thorough butt kicking by the Texans. I think the Colts were fortunate to have a shot to at least be competitive at the end.

[Drew Franklin]

Another week Jonathan Taylor couldn't find the end zone. You know, we were just every week looking up, he's having two or three, he's gone cold and that was a big part of them shutting. Stroud had a good game, didn't find the end zone much, but big turnaround for the Texans. I've been watching them in the Jaguars. It's going to be a race in that division. I don't think my Titans will catch up, but that was a huge win for the, for the Texans.

[Guest Analyst]

Texans have the number one defense in the NFL right now. And you mentioned the other game. The Jags beat the Titans 25 to 3. Because of that indie loss, Jacksonville is now the number one team in the AFC South.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I think they're 848-475. That's, that's going to come down.

[Matt Jones]

Supposedly supposed to be the worst division in football and it's the most competitive of all of them along with the NFC north. And I think all three teams, if not great, are solid, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And I mean the Colts were shocking team. I thought they were going to suck this year but they went on that huge run to start the year but now they've completely cooled off. I mean we're not. Nobody's talking about Daniel Jones anymore. Taylor's still great but hadn't had touchdowns in a couple of weeks. They've run into a wal. I don't know if people figure them out or what's changed, but they're not that team they were in the first five weeks when we couldn't believe how well they were playing.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Congrats to Texans. That defense is nasty and Will Anderson in my opinion is defensive player. He is. I think they got him. Did they get the pick where they got him in a trade. I feel like they did. I feel like they traded his year to get two first round picks and then picked him and that was a. He's a monster. And you know, with him. And then Josh Hines Allen with the Jaguars. They got two of the five best defensive line monsters in the AFC South. What's next?

[Guest Analyst]

The San Francisco 49ers won their third straight game as they beat the Browns 26 to 8. They're now 9 and 4 in the NFC west one game behind the Los Angeles Rams. Not the best game for Shedeur Sanders. He did throw for a touchdown but after the game was telling reporters that they had rude questions after the loss.

[Drew Franklin]

Who caught the touchdown?

[Guest Analyst]

Billy Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

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[Matt Jones]

By the way, did any of our people score?

[Guest Analyst]

I still have Trayvon Henderson tonight. Max Brosmer did not score.

[Drew Franklin]

We'll get to him.

[Guest Analyst]

What a week he had.

[Matt Jones]

Goodness.

[Guest Analyst]

And then Puka Nukua did not score for.

[Matt Jones]

I thought he did.

[Drew Franklin]

No, Puka scored. I had him in a parlay.

[Guest Analyst]

He had a great catch.

[Matt Jones]

I'm pretty certain for me. Cheat against me.

[Drew Franklin]

No, it was Devonta who caught it.

[Guest Analyst]

I think they said my integrity.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. I think they.

[Drew Franklin]

They reversed it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that was incorrect. Have you. Does the fish. Can we put in an official inquiry?

[Drew Franklin]

Is it too late?

[Guest Analyst]

What's the stewards review after horse race maybe.

[Matt Jones]

I thought it was Puka had a great catch.

[Drew Franklin]

He didn't get in on that.

[Guest Analyst]

Did not get in.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Devonte had two.

[Guest Analyst]

So you guys struck out again. Trivia on my head.

[Drew Franklin]

In hindsight, picking Max Brosmer probably wasn't my finest moment.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we'll get to him. Yeah, Shador's too much. He had one good pass. I don't know why they went for it on 4th and 1.

[Drew Franklin]

Shador was asked about what he thought about that.

[Matt Jones]

What'd he say?

[Drew Franklin]

He's clearly not going to say anything about his coach. He just smiles. He's like, I'm just happy to be here. You know, I trust his decisions. Just a complete non answer.

[Matt Jones]

He's just, he's just too much man. Like that, that attitude, that's Aaron Rodgers attitude without Aaron Rodgers career, I guess. And I can't stand Aaron Rodgers attitude. Dude. Dude. If you haven't accomplished anything, you just got to take it down a notch.

[Drew Franklin]

A few weeks ago I, maybe even last week I did feel like a reporter was trying to bait him into saying something about his coach and he wouldn't take it. But it's simple.

[Matt Jones]

We're going to do.

[Drew Franklin]

But this one was a simple. What did you think of this? Fourth down or you're the quarterback with the ball in your hands. You should have an opinion of what happened on fourth down.

[Matt Jones]

People are going to give you like he just, he's in terms of pr, he's a disaster. And Kendrick Perkins or not, he needs to, he needs to chill. And the thing is he seems like very important but also I don't care. Like red zone almost never showed a minute of his game. You could easily have forgot it was going on.

[Drew Franklin]

I made a point to watch him against the Raiders. Not one time on Sunday. Was like, I should check on Sanders today. Yeah, it's like I gave him the one, but I've moved on.

[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Guest Analyst]

The Buccaneers also snapped a three game losing streak. They won at home against the Cardinals 20 to 17. Arizona is.06 in games decided by four points or less this year, which is incredible.

[Matt Jones]

But isn't that true every year? I feel like they lose every game close every year? I feel like they finish 5 and 12 with seven one loss games every season.

[Guest Analyst]

Those four o' clock NFC west games do end in close ones and they.

[Matt Jones]

End in misery for the Cardinals. Usually.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah. Well, Trey McGride got his eighth touchdown. He looks great as probably the best tight end in the league right now. Bucky Irvin came back and looked good and Tristan Worf scored a touchdown. That was the first. Big man.

[Drew Franklin]

Big man. Billy, we talked about the Panthers making a run.

[Matt Jones]

You. Are you worried?

[Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean they're on your heels.

[Matt Jones]

Very worried.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

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[Guest Analyst]

Bryce Young looks good. And they play Carolina two of the last three weeks. Those games will decide the division this year.

[Drew Franklin]

Actually, that'll be entertaining to watch me.

[Matt Jones]

Exciting because the NFC South's going to have a game and they will not. It's so big. They're not assigning Chris Myers or Spiro Das that game.

[Drew Franklin]

The last game's a flex. They might even put that in prime time. If it matters, put that at 4.

[Guest Analyst]

O' clock or 8 o' clock now.

[Matt Jones]

8 o' clock on Monday or Tuesday.

[Advertiser]

Tuesday.

[Drew Franklin]

Chris Fowler's busy.

[Matt Jones]

Mike Trico's like, again, how many games do you want me to do? What's next?

[Guest Analyst]

Finishing up the NFC South. The jets came back to beat the Falcons 27 to 24 on a big Tyrod Taylor drive late in the game. The Falcons are a mess and the Dolphins hung on to beat the Saints 21 to 17. Despite the Saints getting an onside kick kick on the final drive and then failing on a quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

Exciting Tyler Shuck moments there at the end. Both of these games were dreadful. Both of these games made me sad. I did like the jets stadium did explode on that final touchdown with Tyrod Taylor. I kind of feel like Tyrod Taylor is a man of the people when he plays. That means things aren't going well, but you're still trying.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but also when you're a fan and your only excitement is Tyrod Taylor getting a rushing touchdown, it's not like, well, this is our future right here. We found the key to taking the next step.

[Matt Jones]

But he could be any age.

[Drew Franklin]

He's got to be up at pushing 40.

[Matt Jones]

Tell me he's 27 or 47 and I'm not sure. I think he's 33.

[Guest Analyst]

I've got the.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going higher. 36, 36 on the dot.

[Matt Jones]

That's amazing. He's still in the league at 36 because is he ever been like the team's like, starter? Has he ever gone into a season as the team's number one starter?

[Drew Franklin]

Not has he really?

[Guest Analyst]

I think so.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, he's stepped up a lot.

[Guest Analyst]

I can't remember. I can give you the teams he's been on.

[Matt Jones]

I go for it.

[Drew Franklin]

He's like the Rondo, the Ravens, the.

[Guest Analyst]

Bills, the Browns, the Chargers, the Texans, the Giants and the Jets.

[Matt Jones]

Wow.

[Guest Analyst]

And he's a Super bowl champ.

[Matt Jones]

The only one he might have been the starter going in the season was the Ravens. And that one may have been like his second or third year.

[Guest Analyst]

He was drafted in 2011, sixth round pick, 180th overall.

[Matt Jones]

You got to give him credit for still Being in the league pays well. Yeah. And he probably when he's done, he'll be healthy because he spent a lot of time not playing.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, yeah. If he's ever done, he might just.

[Guest Analyst]

Play forever and give it up.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

The Saints result. I was really pulling for the Saints. My, my Titans with the jets getting a win. If the Saints had won, we'd have a two game for the number one pick.

[Matt Jones]

And the Jaguars beat your Titans. Give me my daily Titans review.

[Drew Franklin]

One of the cooler things I've seen the Titans do, they pan the stadium and show that no one was there on the big screen. And then gave away two PSLs to the new stadium versus someone who would come watch them. So that was pretty nice of them. We had a fight after a Hail Mary, so at least we showed fighting.

[Matt Jones]

When you're getting crushed. Our Kentucky team did that this weekend.

[Guest Analyst]

It's embarrassing.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think there's a mount you're down where you shouldn't be allowed to fight?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. And really the Titans just the moment they step on the field this year. If you're not going to fight in the game, I'd rather you not actually fist fight the other team.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Who's their coach? Is Callahan still no.

[Guest Analyst]

Mike McCoy.

[Drew Franklin]

Mike McCoy from the Chargers. That's not going to last. He's just holding the job until they make another bad hire.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, this has been a bad Titan. I mean, last year. Well, every year has been a bad night.

[Drew Franklin]

We had the variable Henry Brown team that went to the AFC and then they just completely blew it up. Went to the AFC Championship and then they just blew that up. That was only like four years ago.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe Will Levis was better than everyone. Acted like they had a bit of success with Will Levis. Just a little bit.

[Drew Franklin]

Watch Will Levitt. He won't be a starter next year, but Will Levis still has life in the NFL.

[Matt Jones]

You think he's going to be Tyrod Taylor?

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe. But I thought this last year and a lot of it's because it's Vols fans and they hate him from his UK connections. But I thought this. They were way too hard on him. When he played for a team that was absolutely terrible, he would snap the ball and immediately be running backwards for his life and no one could have been good for them last year. It's amazing Ward has done anything.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. All right. What about the afternoon game?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

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[Guest Analyst]

A couple of interesting results in the afternoon games. One of them was the Seahawks beating the Vikings 26 to 0.

[Matt Jones]

Seattle Interesting.

[Guest Analyst]

It was just because how bad Minnesota's fallen.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so Max Brosmer. Brosmer. Brosmer. Some people are saying that's the worst quarterback performance in the league in quite some time. Rookie from Minnesota, Myron Metcalf on my pregame show was saying brought Brosmer may play so well that they give up on J.J. mcCarthy.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, Myron.

[Matt Jones]

No, I think that's fair to say that's not true.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, it's safe, Safe to say that.

[Matt Jones]

He had the second worst quarterback rating of a quarterback in a game in the last four years.

[Drew Franklin]

I think anytime you have more interceptions, then your team has points. It was a pretty rough day. He had four picks, they had zero points.

[Matt Jones]

That's, that's pretty personal. The first one was really bad.

[Drew Franklin]

While I know it was in Seattle, but you're looking across the way and there's Sam Darnold, who should still be your quarterback. So Vikings fans had to, it was a double loss to them.

[Matt Jones]

That's an embarrassment. Tough year for the Vikings.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean last year, excitement.

[Matt Jones]

Last year, didn't they go 15 and 2? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And they thought they just hand this off to McCarthy this year as the future should have stuck with.

[Matt Jones]

Now they're like not only the worst team in the division, they're the team in the division with the worst future as well.

[Drew Franklin]

I think they only have one win in like several weeks. Like they won a few early in the year. They have four in total, but most, they, they're all the front end. They just keep losing.

[Matt Jones]

I don't care about the Chargers and the Raiders. Like, honestly.

[Guest Analyst]

Well, Herbert got hurt. He had to have surgery today on his left hand.

[Matt Jones]

Well, everybody keeps hurting their offhand. I guess your offhand doesn't matter, does it?

[Guest Analyst]

Well, your non throwing hand definitely matters less than your throwing hand for a quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you, doctor.

[Drew Franklin]

Breaking news.

[Advertiser]

What?

[Matt Jones]

Get out here.

[Guest Analyst]

So I mean, if you, if you injure your non throwing hand, you just keep on going.

[Drew Franklin]

Doctor not wrong.

[Matt Jones]

Dr. Rutledge would like you to know that the throwing hand is more important than the non throwing hand.

[Drew Franklin]

Quarterbacks always get their offensive linemen these gifts. You always see these packages.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Justin Herbert needs a Venmo request his offensive line. Like, y' all owe me money. You're gonna get me killed.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I, that's one of your best lines.

[Guest Analyst]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

I think I, I, I didn't know this game happened until we got here.

[Drew Franklin]

The only thing I really saw was Max cross me just bulldoze Herbert over after a play when he wasn't talking.

[Matt Jones]

That guy scares me.

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[Matt Jones]

If you were to rank the NFL players that you'd least like to see coming after you in a fight or just in life, he's in my top five. Who's your number one?

[Drew Franklin]

It could be him because it's his circumstances. He has nothing, nothing to lose. He plays for the Raiders. Like he'll fight, he'll get kicked out, he doesn't care.

[Matt Jones]

I just mean in life, like you're at a bar and say you're. You see a guy and he's staring you down. Who are you most scared of?

[Drew Franklin]

Miles Garrett's going to be who? I think he's got a friendly side that I could maybe hope breaks out. Crosby with the. With the tag. He's just an intimidating person presence. But Miles Garrett would be probably one on just size and cheer. He and Aaron Donald. I know he's retired, but that's another one I wasn't no part of.

[Matt Jones]

I'm scared of Aaron Donald now.

[Drew Franklin]

He does like that MMA where they have knives out and that dude's just wild.

[Matt Jones]

Really?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's like blocking knives with his bare hands.

[Matt Jones]

You're what?

[Drew Franklin]

Look it up type. Aaron Donald knives.

[Guest Analyst]

I've seen him do that in practice.

[Matt Jones]

He's not blocking knives with his bare hands.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes, he is. I mean, he's like blocking the arms. He's not grabbing the knife. Okay, but I mean, they're swinging knives at him and he's just Judy chopping them. Yeah, that actually he's my answer. I know.

[Matt Jones]

He's retired.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the answer.

[Matt Jones]

Huh? What about quarterbacks? Who would you most be scared of? That's a quarterback. And then who would you be least scared of?

[Guest Analyst]

Russell Wilson.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, great answer on that one.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I was going to say Jared Goff.

[Drew Franklin]

Let's say your life's on the line. You have to fight one quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Who are My options. Russell Wilson. Throw Jared Goff in there.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm going, Aaron Rodgers. My best shoulders.

[Matt Jones]

No, See, I feel like Aaron Rodgers has watched some YouTube video of how to kill you with, like, a garden hose or something.

[Drew Franklin]

I was just trying to think of age where I'd have my best shot.

[Matt Jones]

He looked rough.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he looked like he had already been beaten up.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we'll. We'll do him in just a second. Yeah, he.

[Drew Franklin]

He.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's not a terrible call, but I feel like he knows Kyler.

[Guest Analyst]

Murray, Brock, Paul Purdy.

[Matt Jones]

Brock Purdy's a good one. Yeah, I like Brock Purdy as the pick.

[Drew Franklin]

This would be a great graphic for the NFL. Which quarterback could cover zero, beat up? The real answer is we'd lose to all of them.

[Matt Jones]

No, I could beat up Brock Purdy.

[Guest Analyst]

We started the show.

[Matt Jones]

Sign it up.

[Drew Franklin]

I feel like me and Drew versus.

[Matt Jones]

Brock Purdy and Mac Jones.

[Drew Franklin]

No, I'd run Mac Jones, too.

[Matt Jones]

I think.

[Drew Franklin]

I think I could take two.

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

You don't want to fight to it.

[Matt Jones]

Two is too quick for you.

[Drew Franklin]

He's just got a lot going on, you know?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. Who's the South Paul? So you don't know. I'm a South Paul.

[Drew Franklin]

It's perfect. Perfect matchup.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I. I like your Brock Purdy pick. I still think Jared Goff, those up there in the old days, you would want to fight Peyton Manning.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Peyton Manning v. Good Auto Graham.

[Drew Franklin]

Did we do the quarterback we want to fight least?

[Matt Jones]

That's a good question. Well, I mean, you initially would say, who's the biggest? The biggest is probably. I mean, Jalen hurts, but I feel.

[Drew Franklin]

Like I wouldn't want Dak to punch me.

[Guest Analyst]

Davis Mills in that neck would be something.

[Drew Franklin]

That stuff couldn't land the knockout at all. He's like the Rock. I'm stocking robots where the C.J.

[Matt Jones]

Stroud might be up there. Six, four ripped, trying to think who's crazy.

[Drew Franklin]

Crazy. Little crazy will throw you off.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't know. I like C.J. stroud for that one, too. All right, all right, what's next?

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, you mentioned Aaron Rodgers. The Pittsburgh Steelers lost to the bills 26 to 7 in an ugly game. He already had a cast on his hand. He kind of re injured it during the game. Josh Allen, meanwhile, breaks the record for rushing touchdowns by a quarterback. Keon Coleman gets in the end zone. There's been a lot of drama there.

[Drew Franklin]

The.

[Guest Analyst]

The bills advanced to 8 and 4 on the year. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh is on top of that AFC north but you just don't know how that division is going to go right now.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I would say that game went about as well for the Steelers as the car wreck for the guy in Stranger Things. Like it was you saying they're in a coma. Another game that was never close. You know they had that one drive, the last drive, Aaron Rodgers. But I feel like I'm finally getting what I hoped for was my vengeance on Aaron Rodgers being awful has happened. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

That screenshot of his face where it did look like he had just got out of a 12 round boxing fight.

[Matt Jones]

And it looked like he had aged a lot during the game.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that wasn't the guy that was on the graphic when he went out to take his first nap. Also what my biggest takeaway from this is. Did you hear them yelling fire Tomlin? It wasn't like five people that stadium sounded in unison and they showed his face and he even he was like oh my God, is it this bad? He's been there close to 20 years.

[Matt Jones]

And I guess that's why they. I mean he. I don't know. I don't know how I would feel if I was a seahorse fan because they've never been bad but they also don't look they've not been good in a while. So what do you do?

[Drew Franklin]

Is it Tomlin's fault that they have Aaron Rodgers? Did he have a role in that? Because if he didn't I feel like I feel bad for him. If he had was forced Aaron Rodgers and now he's getting booed because he's.

[Matt Jones]

Role is in picking.

[Drew Franklin]

But I'll be sympathetic if he wasn't all in on Aaron Rodgers.

[Guest Analyst]

Was it Russ and Justin Fields before that?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean it hadn't been good for a while but I just thought guys.

[Matt Jones]

Or do other people can he pick it before that and they really had nobody since Roethlisberger just didn't expect that.

[Drew Franklin]

Say I didn't think we'd hear fire Tomlin chance at any point.

[Matt Jones]

It's a little sad because I mean he seems like a good guy. I mean the one thing is the moment they get rid of him, another coach will pick him up a.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

And for our Kentucky like him in Tennessee.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh yeah. Better than some of the options they're saying.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What were you going to say for.

[Drew Franklin]

Our, for our Kentucky audience this was a big game for former Cats 1 our guy Ray Davis just keeps getting better for the Bills. They love him in Buffalo, but a blast from the past. Brandon Echols had An interception for the Steelers. So I watched this whole game and heard some familiar names for our. Our local audience.

[Matt Jones]

That's. That's good. By the way, Louisville is playing Indiana in basketball on Saturday. It's. It is Dave o', Brien, Dick Vital, and Charles Barkley on the call.

[Drew Franklin]

Barkley and Vital. Wow.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's. That's kind of cool.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't even consider we'd get Barkley doing stuff like this when they made that merge.

[Matt Jones]

What's Barkley on? He's on espn.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We might get a lot of this now. Oh, we got to get Barkley a rup.

[Matt Jones]

That would be kind of cool, to be honest.

[Drew Franklin]

Barkley calling games, Barkley calling anything sound.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He could be very, very nice guy. So. Yeah. And as far as the Bills bounce back, they play the big game. Who they. Who they got this week? The Bengals at home. You know, they. They're going to make. I think they're of the sort of contenders that have disappointed. They're the ones with the best shot at actually getting in the playoffs.

[Drew Franklin]

I have something Bills related I need to confess, and I don't want to confess it, but I feel like I have to touch.

[Matt Jones]

Go for it.

[Drew Franklin]

A couple nights ago and I did this alone. I watched the Hallmark Bills movie. The opening scene is at the bar.

[Matt Jones]

The Hallmark Bill's movie.

[Drew Franklin]

They made a Christmas Bill's love story. The opening scene is Bar Bill where you did espn. And I'm like, oh, I screamed at my tv. I was like, I was just there last week. And it's showing the tailgating now at your.

[Matt Jones]

What channel is this?

[Drew Franklin]

Hallmark. It's a Hallmark Christmas movie about the bill.

[Matt Jones]

It's like a romance movie about the Bills.

[Drew Franklin]

And they're going to everything we did just a couple weeks ago. So I don't love confessing that I watched that alone in my private time during the holiday break.

[Matt Jones]

It wasn't good, was it?

[Drew Franklin]

No, no. And I wouldn't have told anyone I did this, but it was pretty cool. I mean, the opening scene is at that bar with exactly where we were sitting to start our trip just a few weeks ago. Big Tree Inn.

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Excuse me.

[Drew Franklin]

They call it Bar Bill on the. It's maybe a different name on the movie, but yes, the Big Tree Inn. Tree Inn is where it was.

[Matt Jones]

I have a friend that lives in Louisville and she is only in Hallmark movies.

[Drew Franklin]

What a gig.

[Matt Jones]

But she's like the friend in every Hallmark movie. So I don't know if you watch Hallmark movies but a lot of them are filmed in Oldham County, Kentucky for some reason and she plays like friend of the bride in all of them. So if you watch a lot you might see this red haired girl that's like well weren't you the friend of the person in the other movie? And she's been in like eight Hallmark movies in the last two years.

[Drew Franklin]

Years. Sweet. They just keep making them. I mean you don't have to change up your acting like I'll be back next year.

[Matt Jones]

No, they just do the same thing just in a different place. Every movie is guy comes to town. At first she's not sure about them. Then they fall in love.

[Drew Franklin]

Or city girl copywriter at the big marketing firm comes home and falls in love with the farmer, doesn't want to go back.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right.

[Drew Franklin]

And not to keep talking, confessing that I watched the Bill's love story movie but our guy Ray Davis is in it too.

[Advertiser]

So.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, he's in it as a new part of Bill's mafia.

[Matt Jones]

I enjoyed Ray Davis is in the in the Bills.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes, I enjoyed. It's literally like they took our trip and made a Christmas love movie out of.

[Matt Jones]

Was kind of its own Christmas love.

[Drew Franklin]

You should watch. That's a recommendation.

[Matt Jones]

All right, what's the last one?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Finally Sunday night Denver beat Washington 27 to 26. The Commanders go for two and overtime for the win. But Mariota's pass is batted away.

[Matt Jones]

There. I mean Collinsworth pointed out great play call. All he's got to do is get it up in the air.

[Drew Franklin]

It's a wild drive too.

[Matt Jones]

It was a great drive. I thought going for two is the right decision. It was right there. Do you like the as when teams win overtime they defer. That's becoming. I think they've done it 7 out of 11 games but they're. But it usually ends up with them having to go for two. You like that?

[Drew Franklin]

I get why they're doing it but even last night I was just wanting to kick the extra points so I got more football. I just tied up. So I watched the other team. But I get when you're the commanders.

[Matt Jones]

To go though, like what do you want to tie? What's that going to do for you?

[Drew Franklin]

You're a three win team. Yeah, I might have had the over. You're a three win team. I completely get why they did it. My big takeaway from this and I couldn't wait to bring this up with you. My wife, we're sitting on the couch, she goes why does Chris Collinsworth keep saying Marcus Mariota like that. And I don't know if you all noticed, but the whole game, and I even searched it on Twitter, other people were noticing it. He kept saying Marcus Mariota. Like he would do this loud TA and the Internet's like, why is he saying it that way?

[Sponsor/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I could not enjoy the game because I kept thinking, why is he doing this?

[Matt Jones]

No one says Marcus Mariota.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And he would say Marcus Mariota and.

[Drew Franklin]

He would really emphasize it. And I'm thinking, I watched this guy play for the Titans for several years. I've never heard anyone say his name like that. But it was throwing me off.

[Matt Jones]

You know, I'm kind of Marcus Mario. Todd drops back enunciating odd syllables. You know, you're right.

[Drew Franklin]

You're Tennessee and you're Halloween.

[Matt Jones]

TV.

[Drew Franklin]

TV.

[Matt Jones]

Caleb Williams. Yeah. So Marcus Mayer. E. O, T.A.

[Drew Franklin]

It'S the T.A. he was throwing that tie in there hard. Just never heard it done that way.

[Matt Jones]

Never heard it done either.

[Guest Analyst]

I did think of you, Drew, because Traylon Burks had maybe the catching.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, God.

[Guest Analyst]

Besides Puka Nick.

[Drew Franklin]

I know. Former Titan. We gave up AJ Brown for him. AJ Brown went to more Super Bowls than he had touchdowns. And then of course he goes and makes a big.

[Matt Jones]

Broncos are 10 and 2. You think they're a Super bowl contender?

[Drew Franklin]

I keep wanting to think no. But they just keep winning.

[Guest Analyst]

They've won nine in a row.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I mean, they keep.

[Matt Jones]

Hard not to. But I don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

Here's the thing.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know that I believe in any of any team. It's going to be a great year. I don't think any team is good like go to the. Go to the nfc. The Bears, the one seed. Do I think they are going to. To win it? No. Top seeds in the. In the AFC are Denver, Denver, New England, Jacksonville. I don't believe in any of them either.

[Guest Analyst]

Baltimore.

[Matt Jones]

I don't believe in anybody. Is it possible to believe in nobody?

[Drew Franklin]

Broncos, Their schedule is for real. I mean, Billy mentioned how many games they've won in a row. Their only losses were Week 2 and 3 by one point and three points at Indianapolis, who was on fire at the time, and at the Chargers, who had just beaten the Chiefs. That's the only two blips on their entire resume.

[Matt Jones]

But I don't think anybody's good. And because I don't think anybody's good, somebody's got to make it. So actually, I think. Follow my logic here. I'm with you because no one's Good. And no one can make the Super Bowl. Then anyone can make the Super Bowl. Wow, that's almost.

[Drew Franklin]

That's up there with Billy. We don't want your quarterback to hurt his throwing hand. You'd rather hurt his hand.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's more brilliant than you're giving it credit for.

[Drew Franklin]

Billy's or yours?

[Matt Jones]

If no one is good? No. His is bad.

[Guest Analyst]

Both, really.

[Matt Jones]

If no one is good good, then everyone is good. It's a good point. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like I had an accounting class in college and they were notorious for grading bad. But they would tell you like a C is good in this class. That's like the highest people get. So wheneverbody got Cs, we went home smiling. Even though, you know, it was pretty tough. Class Cs were good.

[Matt Jones]

So that's my take on this year. No one's good and no one has a chance to make the Super Bowl. So everyone has a chance to make the Super Bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

It is the most, at this point, the most open. I think the playoffs will be in a long time.

[Matt Jones]

It's esoteric is what you were trying to say.

[Drew Franklin]

That's the word. What was the one you did earlier? The dimensions.

[Matt Jones]

Their election. Their election of duty. They always say that about presidents, their elections. Something wrong?

[Drew Franklin]

Their elections are in November.

[Matt Jones]

No, they say that like a president screwed something up and it was a dereliction of duty.

[Drew Franklin]

Gotcha.

[Matt Jones]

So dereliction. And what was. What's the one I just said? Yeah, yeah, that one too. Those are the two words of the day.

[Guest Analyst]

If I told you before the season started, be the Bears and the Broncos as the 1 seeds before December started.

[Matt Jones]

Getting good odds on that. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not going to be the Super Bowl. Or what if it is your Bears.

[Drew Franklin]

In the Super Bowl.

[Matt Jones]

Super Bowl. Which means it has to be the Super Bowl.

[Guest Analyst]

I'm following the logic.

[Matt Jones]

I think you are. All right. So what's Monday Night Football Tonight we got a thriller.

[Drew Franklin]

The Pats and Giants in New England.

[Matt Jones]

I both think the Giants will cover this game. Right. Even though they probably won't win. They come.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. The spreads more than a touchdown. The NFL, that's a big number. You know, Giants with two wins. Obviously not big favorite here. Probably not going to win. But I think they'll play close being Monday Night Patriots got to cool off a little bit at some point. They're doing all their winning on the road. I think the Giants can hang.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Jackson Dark's back. I think Cam Scatterbow's got a taping of secret Lives of Mormon Housewives. So he will not be there. But Jackson dart back might make it fun, right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And I saw CD Lamb on a podcast this weekend just raving about Wandell Robinson and how he's one of the best receivers in the league this year. So you know, even though the Giants are terrible, that's a great throw to the trash game.

[Matt Jones]

Thank you very much. Left handed.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Solid across the room. But Wandell has been huge quietly for a two win team. Happy to see see that. And seeing other receivers give him his credit feel like it's been well deserved.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So we'll take the Giants to, to cover. Billy, who was your knockout pick?

[Guest Analyst]

It was the Dolphins who ended up holding on.

[Drew Franklin]

Gambled a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

You did gamble, so you're still in it. I noticed that the professional survivor leagues required you to pick a Thursday Friday game and then a Saturday Sunday game. And in the circa one I want to say there might have been like 200 people or 250 people left and like it's down to like 10 because the four favorite on the Thursday game, all the favorites lost all four of them.

[Guest Analyst]

So you want to pick two next week?

[Matt Jones]

No, I mean right now, like there's only Sunday Monday games. I mean we did take to miss two weeks, but you're still in it. So we'll pick, we'll pick on Wednesday and you, you. But you're still in it.

[Guest Analyst]

All right, I'll keep it rolling till next year.

[Matt Jones]

Year.

[Guest Analyst]

We're gonna, we're not gonna take a loss.

[Matt Jones]

You're oddly good at this. Like there's so few things you're good at.

[Guest Analyst]

Nothing odd about it that like the.

[Matt Jones]

Fact that you're really good at this is kind of, it's kind of exhilarating, isn't it?

[Guest Analyst]

That's my job.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Well, well, thank you folks very much. Sorry for the delay in getting it out, but we got a little detained by other things. But we'll be back on probably Wednesday. Maybe Thursday. But probably Wednesday. This has been Cover zero. NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I Heart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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