NFL Cover Zero: The Playoff Push!

Summary

NFL Cover Zero: The Playoff Push!

Podcast: KSR
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, Billy
Episode Date: December 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Matt Jones returns to host alongside Drew Franklin and Billy for a jam-packed Week 15 NFL preview. The crew dives into the shifting playoff picture, examines the possible end of the Chiefs' dynasty, reacts to Philip Rivers' surprising NFL return at age 44, and covers plenty of unique stats, inside stories, and banter—from baby names to flag football’s Olympic future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates and Banter

• Matt opens the show with a mention of his absence and gratitude, then quickly pokes fun at Drew’s “dad hat,” leading to a riff about baby names for Drew’s expected daughter.
• Humorous back-and-forth about naming the baby "Bartina" (after bar meeting and ex-girlfriend Tina), and balancing originality with practicality.
  • Memorable quote (04:23):
    Matt Jones: “I think it’s unique. People will be like, ‘Martina?’ No, Bar-Tina.”
• The conversation transitions to the anxiety and seriousness of picking a name that a child will carry for life. Matt suggests reading every third name from a baby name list, which results in the short list: Olivia, Charlotte, Isabella, Sophia, Barbara.
  • Drew jokes about considering old-fashioned names thanks to trends and Matt’s goading.

2. The Chiefs Dynasty: Beginning of the End?

• Matt thinks the Kansas City Chiefs’ incredible seven-year run is likely over after recent losses, praising them as one of history’s most impressive franchises.
  • Quote (09:57):
    Matt Jones: “You could make an argument that along with the Patriots run, the Steelers run in the ‘70s, maybe the Packers in the ‘60s, those are the best runs of all time… It seems to now be over.”
• Drew reflects on the emotional rollercoaster of the dynasty’s decline, referencing Travis Kelce's own public doubts.
  • Drew Franklin (10:20): “Even Travis Kelce’s got comments out there where he’s like, anytime we faced adversity before, I felt like I had an answer. I don’t have an answer this time.”
• Both agree Mahomes will have another act in his career, but anticipate significant roster changes and wonder about Andy Reid’s future (now 70).

3. NFL Culture, Games, and Media

• The hosts joke about the fan exhaustion that accompanies dynasties but argue star power makes for a compelling NFL (e.g., comparing Mahomes/Allen to replacements like Bo Nix/Trevor Lawrence).
  • Matt Jones (12:05): "You’re telling me Chiefs Rams would not be more fun? ... It's like when people got tired of Tiger winning—no, who wins now? Some guy named Max."

4. Philip Rivers Returns at 44

• The Colts stunned the league by signing Philip Rivers, out of football for five years, to potentially start.
  • Matt Jones (17:29): “Have we ever seen anything like this? ... To sit out a sport for five years—that’s a long time. And he looked old when he played.”
• The guys riff on Rivers' lack of recent football activities, speculate about his fitness, and riff on other ex-players’ careers post-retirement.
  • Billy (25:25): “His oldest child is as old as Riley Leonard [the backup].”
• React with sympathy and amusement for Riley Leonard—a rookie potentially displaced for someone the same age as Rivers’ oldest child.

5. Quarterback Discussions & Notable Stats

• Jordan Love’s “ToyotaThon” Stats:
  Billy brings up Jordan Love’s prolific performances specifically during ToyotaThon sales windows, a running inside joke.
  • Billy (26:29): “In 19 games over the last three seasons, Jordan Love has 35 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and is completing 68% of his passes during ToyotaThon.”
• Matt and Drew poke fun at the odd specificity, tie it to car dealership sales pressure tactics, and share personal car-buying stories, including the “Larry Power Move” for haggling.
• Eagles and Justin Herbert Media Moment:
  Billy reports on Justin Herbert’s eye-rolling incident with sideline reporter Laura Rutledge, leading Matt to sharply disapprove and defend Rutledge’s professionalism.
  • Matt Jones (33:08): “Laura Rutledge is the nicest person in the world ... He owes her an apology. Go celebrate with your team, but you can do the interview or just walk away, but don’t roll your eyes at Laura Rutledge.”
• Discussion on the Eagles’ offensive struggles and Jalen Hurts' inconsistency, and Lamar Jackson’s surprising downturn.
  • Matt Jones (34:38): “I don’t get it. I don’t understand how Jalen Hurts can be so inconsistent at times... Lamar has completely fallen off the planet too. I mean, what happened to Lamar?”

6. NFL Playoff Scenarios & Key Matchups

• Billy updates on Week 15 playoff scenarios. Patriots can clinch the division with a win over the Bills; Rams and Broncos can clinch playoff berths.
  • Anticipation builds for Patriots-Bills as the best matchup of the weekend.
  • Drew roots for the Bills as the worthy postseason favorite.

7. NFL News, Expansion, and the International Game

• Professional Flag Football League:
  Major news that NFL owners are investing $32 million into professional flag football, aiming to build on its boost from the upcoming Olympic inclusion.
  • Matt Jones (42:44): "If you’re the NFL and you’re doing this, then [Rondo]'s got to play… you want someone with name recognition."
• Expansion into Germany:
  NFL confirms four straight seasons of regular season games in Munich, referencing Germany’s large American football fanbase (>20 million).
  • Discussion extends to NFL's global growth, international games logistics, and a tangent explaining European vs American geography.

8. Emerging Quarterbacks and Rookies

• Shadur Sanders to Start for the Browns:
  Despite a loss to Drew’s Titans, his performance earns him the starting job for the remainder of the season.
  • Matt and Drew debate whether the Bears' game vs. the Browns is an automatic win, consider the challenges of playing in severe cold weather.
• Rookie QB Rankings:
  Spirited debate ranking the current class: Drake May, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, with skepticism over Nix but acknowledgment of Caleb's progress under coach Ben Johnson.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (by Timestamp):

• On Chiefs’ Dynasty End:
  Matt: “These were the good times, and I feel like C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson ended them Sunday night.” (12:58)
• On Car-Buying Haggling:
  Matt: “My dad, Larry, his method of doing cars is the one I’ve done. He’d sit down and look at the person and go, ‘I don’t like to haggle ... You have to make a profit ... but this is it.’” (30:22)
• On Laura Rutledge/Herbert Incident:
  Matt: “He owes her an apology. Go celebrate with your team. That’s fine. But you can do the interview or just walk away, but don’t roll your eyes at Laura Rutledge.” (33:08)
• On Flag Football at the Olympics:
  Billy: “Rajon Rondo is officially the top-ranked flag football quarterback in the United States.” (44:39) Matt: “If you’re the NFL and you’re doing this, then he’s got to play… you want someone with name recognition.” (44:57)
• On Bears-Browns in Frigid Temps:
  Drew: “If I’m a fan, I want the absolute worst... Like, there’s nothing better than a good, good snow game.” (52:25)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------|-----------| | Return of Matt & Baby Naming Banter | 02:33–07:00 | | Chiefs Dynasty/Loss Reflection | 09:08–14:45 | | Taylor Swift/Kelce Wedding Offshoot | 14:14–16:45 | | Philip Rivers Return & Ex-NFLers’ Careers | 17:29–21:13 | | Jordan Love “ToyotaThon” Stat/Car Buying | 26:18–32:25 | | Justin Herbert/Laura Rutledge Sideline Moment | 32:26–33:22 | | Eagles, Hurts, and Lamar Dissection | 34:16–35:10 | | Playoff Scenarios Rundown | 36:36–38:33 | | Flag Football League & Olympic Expansion | 42:14–46:15 | | NFL International (Germany Focus) | 47:25–48:56 | | Science/Geography Tangent | 48:56–51:03 | | Rookie QBs, Browns-Bears, Shadur Sanders | 53:37–55:09 |

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Final Segment: Victory Bundle Picks & Survivor

• The crew picks the Bengals over Ravens, Cowboys to cover vs. Vikings, and Bills over Patriots.
• Survivor pool debate leads to Billy taking the Eagles and Bears.
• Fantasy picks: Drew—Christian McCaffrey, Billy—Wandell Robinson (slot receiver stat skit), Matt—Dak Prescott.

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains the classic KSR blend of sports expertise, running jokes, Kentucky flavor, fast-paced riffing, and offbeat but insightful tangents. The hosts display camaraderie and deep NFL knowledge, offering both hard analysis and relatable anecdotes for football fans of all stripes.

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Takeaways

• The NFL’s playoff race is wide open, with the Chiefs era possibly ending and new faces emerging.
• The league is betting big on flag football’s future—with potential for surprising athlete crossovers.
• Off-field personalities (from baby namings to auto-buying strategies) blend seamlessly with football talk, putting a unique KSR stamp on weekly sports coverage.

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For more football and Kentucky-flavored fun, listen to KSR’s NFL Cover Zero every week!

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All right, week 15 NFL cover 0 Matt Jones and Drew Franklin Big shout out to Billy and Drew for filling in for me the last couple shows that I had to miss due to family health situation. But glad to be here today it was exciting week of games, and now we get into the week 15. This is where you start to get the finales of who's going to make the playoffs and who's not. And Drew, I'm glad you're wearing that hat, because that way everybody knows what letter your name starts with.

[Drew Franklin]

Thank you. It actually stands for dad. It's a dad hat. So shout out.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. That's a dad hat. Oh, yeah, it just has a D on it. How am I supposed to know that?

[Drew Franklin]

It's like a secret club we're all in.

[Matt Jones]

There's other things.

[Drew Franklin]

See, right here it says, if you know, you know.

[Matt Jones]

Because there's other things that start with a D. A lot of people think.

[Drew Franklin]

It'S a Dallas Cowboys hat. Honestly, if it's just like one word, Drew, probably my first name would be the best. There are others.

[Matt Jones]

There are others.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But. So that's for dads, correct? Okay, yeah. Interesting.

[Drew Franklin]

For my dad, era came straight from an appointment, straight here. So, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So people don't. You're pregnant?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I am pregnant. I am enjoying the pregnancy cravings. I joke with my wife that I am eating is more unhealthy than I've ever eaten.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you get to do that?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I don't know if I'm allowed to, but I'm doing it. So even like last night, I got out of bed, went downstairs and ate ice cream when I was like, it's a pregnancy craving. Just let me. Let me be pregnant. So I'm enjoying it. Kraft Mac and cheese for dinner.

[Matt Jones]

You're having a girl? Yeah, right. Do we know the name yet?

[Drew Franklin]

We don't. We have some in mind. We have, like, a top five, but not ready to commit to any. That's much harder than I ever imagined.

[Matt Jones]

I have an idea.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. What do you got?

[Matt Jones]

Bartina.

[Drew Franklin]

Martina.

[Matt Jones]

Bartina.

[Drew Franklin]

Bar Tina.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

Why are we going with Bar Tina.

[Matt Jones]

Just came to me.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not on the list.

[Matt Jones]

I think it's unique.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

All right. People will be like, martina, you go. No, Bar Tina.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Didn't you meet Abby at a bar?

[Drew Franklin]

I did meet her at a bar.

[Matt Jones]

And you were broke up with a little girl named Tina.

[Drew Franklin]

So, I mean. I mean, it's right there in front of me. I can't believe that's not on the list already.

[Matt Jones]

I think. I think that makes perfect, perfect sense.

[Drew Franklin]

Mario's on the list.

[Matt Jones]

How are you going to decide, though?

[Drew Franklin]

It's tough, honestly. I knew that would be on the list, but now that it's here, like, something I had to do just like buying a crib. I knew gotta come up with a name. But when you get down to it, this is someone's life. Like, they have to sit in school.

[Matt Jones]

Does that scare you at all? Like, this is gonna be like this little thing of flesh and organs and you're in charge and you can't really do anything.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I'm pretty confident in that part. I think I'm gonna. Oh, you are.

[Matt Jones]

You're confident in your bab.

[Drew Franklin]

I will say naming someone else and not having to deal with the consequences. I kind of feel like babies should be able to name themselves. See, because I have a good idea. But then I'm like, well, she might hate it and she will have to live with it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think you're looking at this the wrong. I think actually rearing the child's gonna be harder than the name. I mean, you could pick a name, obviously, you could just call her Sarah and it's gonna be fine. Like you could you. I wouldn't worry unless you go with Bartina.

[Drew Franklin]

I just.

[Matt Jones]

That could hurt her.

[Drew Franklin]

And I thought all the things you're thinking till you're in the moment of deciding, you're planning your head. She's going to be in a job interview at whatever age, and they're going to address her as this, and she's going to have no say in what that name is. I have to go.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, let's do this. Let's play a game. I want you to Google Billy baby girl names.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, my God. I've done this every night for four months.

[Matt Jones]

I just want you to just look at a list and read me every third one until we have five names. And we're going to act like it has to be one of those.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, I'll go through this exercise.

[Matt Jones]

So what is the third name?

[Billy]

Olivia.

[Matt Jones]

Olivia.

[Drew Franklin]

I could have told you. That's number one on every list. Get ready. There's going to be so. There already are a bunch, but get ready, Olivia's are going to be.

[Matt Jones]

This trivia question the other night at the bar, it is the most. It's the most popular name in 2025 is Olivia.

[Drew Franklin]

I got 2024 and maybe 2023. Get ready. Olivia's are going to own the earth soon.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Colin Coward]

Charlotte.

[Matt Jones]

Charlotte. All right, what's the third?

[Drew Franklin]

Isabella.

[Matt Jones]

Isabella. What's the fourth?

[Drew Franklin]

Sophia.

[Matt Jones]

Sophia. All right, in fifth?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Barbara.

[Matt Jones]

Barbara. Okay, so we have Barb, we have Olivia, Charlotte, Isabella, Sophia, and Barbara. All right, you can only name your child one of these five. That's the Rule not in real life, but in our fake world. Which one are you naming them?

[Drew Franklin]

First of all, thank you all. This is what I do when I go home. So my distraction here of talking football. Thank you for bringing this game back into my life.

[Matt Jones]

You're welcome.

[Drew Franklin]

I do like the name Olivia, but seriously, there's. Every list in the world has Olivia be a number one every year. There's gonna be too many Livia's. We're gonna throw that out. This is honestly the first time, and I feel bad not having Abby here to hear me say this. This is the first time I've considered Barb. Barb. Barb moved the needle forward.

[Matt Jones]

You wouldn't really name your kid Barbara. I don't believe older names are in.

[Drew Franklin]

What the older names that you thought were gone.

[Matt Jones]

Call your baby Barb. She comes out smoking a cigarette, and she works as a waitress at a truck stop.

[Drew Franklin]

She'd love Billy's suitcase from Buffalo, though.

[Matt Jones]

You can't be like, hey, Barbara, what were the other three? Olivia, Charlotte, Isabella, Sophia. First of all, it can't be Isabella because that's cultural appropriation.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So you either Sophia, Charlotte, or Olivia.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, when you said Charlotte, my brain immediately went, If I had 150,000.

[Matt Jones]

Think about that. You name them Charlotte, Panthers fan, Carolina Mike, Godfather.

[Drew Franklin]

I see no problem with any of this.

[Matt Jones]

Favorite band can be good Charlotte, which.

[Drew Franklin]

Is also I can tell her about Meow Mix, how it used to be a thing.

[Matt Jones]

Then you can tell her. You can say your namesake is the banking capital of the world. And nascar or of the. Of the South. Maybe not the world. So.

[Drew Franklin]

So Charlotte is great to check something off the list now so I can go build a nursery.

[Matt Jones]

Charlotte Franklin.

[Drew Franklin]

We go by character.

[Matt Jones]

Charlotte Bartina Franklin. We will welcome to this earth.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, Charbar. Oh, I like this. Abby's gonna be so excited.

[Matt Jones]

She's gonna be excited about Sharbar. So I'm gonna call your kid no matter what you name it. People don't like when I say it for baby. They think I should say her. Right. But I tend to say it. It's still like this. It's not a real thing yet. I guess it is.

[Drew Franklin]

I have pictures that prove otherwise. But I'm with you.

[Matt Jones]

I understand, but it can't talk to me, so I don't. I don't consider it real.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, Sharbar will talk to you soon.

[Matt Jones]

She listens to cover zero friends. All right, so we get started. I think the thing I wanted to start with was the chiefs are dead, so the dynasty and it is a pretty amazing dynasty set in the last seven years. Chiefs have made the AFC Championship game every single year. They've won three Super Bowls, they've lost two Super Bowls, and they've been to the AFC championship twice. Pretty astounding run. I mean, if you're looking at long runs, you could make an argument that along with the Patriots run, the Steelers run in the 70s.

That maybe the packers in the 60s, those are the best runs of all time, of multiple years. I mean, you had, you know, the Cowboys and the 49ers would win like two out of three or whatever, three out of four. But. But that's, I don't think, the same as being that good for seven straight years. And it seems to now be over. Does that make you sad? I mean, it had to end at some point.

[Drew Franklin]

It did. And this year has been kind of a roller coaster. I thought it ended then they'd win a big game and I'm like, oh, I'm an idiot for doubting them. And then they'd go lose a game and I'd write them off again and go win another one. But this past week felt like the end. Even Travis Kelsey's got comments out there where he's like, anytime we faced adversity before, I felt like I had an. An. I don't have an answer this time.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, because he's probably going to retire and I think there'll be a second act for Mahomes. I think he'll.

[Drew Franklin]

Brady and Worthy are great.

[Matt Jones]

He did this too. I mean, Brady had his first run, then they had two or three years, like 20, 10, 11, 12, something like that, where they weren't as good. And then he had a second run. Right. I think that'll happen with my homes, too. They're probably going to have to. I mean, Kelsey's going to retire, but then they'll probably lose a couple of other guys as well. And then there'll be a next act where. But he may be the only him and Worthy or like, they may be the only ones left. Andy Reid, 70. So you got to. You wonder, will he still be the. The guy. So I, It's. I'm a little sad. I think the Chiefs are. The Chiefs are what make the NFL great. You had star power in a secondary city. Right. That's. It was just in a secondary place. One of the best fan bases, a great fan base. And every game was an event with the Chiefs. And so the fact that it ends does make me a little bit sad.

[Drew Franklin]

It does. And like, when you're in it. You're like, oh, the Chiefs in the super bowl again. You almost get the exhaustion like anyone else. But then when you're seeing that kind of end, there is a little bit of change in the guard. There is a little bit of like oh well yeah, but they say they.

[Matt Jones]

Get tired of that and I think they're wrong because I mean let's say we get a Broncos Rams super bowl.

[Drew Franklin]

Heading straight for it.

[Matt Jones]

You're telling me that Chiefs Rams would not be more fun? I mean you're telling me like of course it would be. You know, it's like twin Tiger. People got tired of Tiger winning? No. Who wins now? Some guy named Max. Yeah, you know, I mean I with.

[Drew Franklin]

Stars star power matters and we probably won't get that Bills Chiefs AFC championship we all thought we were heading straight for again. But when we, when we get there there will be a have been like.

[Matt Jones]

Oh this isn't Bo Nix versus Trevor Lawrence. I want to see Mahomes Allen. And we're just, we're just not going to get that.

[Drew Franklin]

Unfortunately there is a weird part of like when you're in it it's a little too repetitive. But then when you're moving to the new guard it's like well wait a minute, where, where's my home? Why aren't they in the mix?

[Matt Jones]

What was it Ed Helms said on the office? Wouldn't it be great if you knew it was the glory years when you're in them or I wish you knew.

[Drew Franklin]

They were the good times when you're in them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, these were the good times and I feel like CJ Stroud and Will Anderson ended them Sunday night.

[Drew Franklin]

That was a nasty defense. The Chiefs won't be done. They've drafted well the Kelsey stepping away is a big changing of the guard there. I wonder so much if they had just finished the job against the Eagles last year and he just has a walk off. I think he would have retired. It has to be haunting him that they couldn't just get over get one.

[Matt Jones]

More think about how many games they should have won this year. About that Jaguars game where he threw. They were going in to take I think a two score lead and Mahomes throws a pick six and then the Jaguars win. I kind of think that was the game that they sort of fell apart.

[Drew Franklin]

But and they have several examples of like Kelsey pass hitting him in the numbers and popping in the air and getting interception three interceptions and two of.

[Matt Jones]

Them were not Mahomes fault in the last game.

[Drew Franklin]

That's what I mean, they almost have, like, bloopers that are adding to it where if you had any thought of, well, maybe they're fine. You see the making mistakes that they never made before, and that adds to the. To the fall.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I do wonder if Kelsey retires last year.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, they beat the Eagle. Taylor's there. That was a big story already. Yeah. It's Jason Kelsey's team.

[Matt Jones]

I do wonder if he was going to ask her to marry him at the game.

[Drew Franklin]

If they had it in the pocket. Just had to win the game.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, the wedding date is June 13th.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw the day after my birthday. We're going to go.

[Matt Jones]

Are we. Are you going to. Are we going to have a party?

[Drew Franklin]

We should.

[Matt Jones]

Billy and I'll show bar you.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, Billy Kelly and I brought this up Wednesday, but skipped over it quite a bit. We mentioned it briefly, but they just. There's like this castle and like, someone already had the date and their wedding plan and they just bought them out. Like, what do you think Taylor Swift offered to just be like, no, I want that date. Like, people are already established.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know that. So they said, get out.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I mean, you had to have gotten.

[Matt Jones]

How much would it cost? Like, what would you have gone for?

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, at the very least, I'm getting my entire wedding paid for with a little bit of honeymoon money. But when, you know, on the other end you have a mega billionaire superstar.

[Matt Jones]

Presumably, though, they're really rich if they had already gotten the castle that Taylor wants. So, like, I would want, I don't know, a concert, an invite to them.

[Drew Franklin]

There we go. If you're already that wealthy, what's the one thing you can't buy?

[Matt Jones]

You can't buy experience.

[Drew Franklin]

That's a great answer. You know, so maybe that couple will be front row at Travis and Taylor's wedding.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I would say sit me at your all's wedding. Trying to think of who will be at that wedding. I'd want to sit with Jason Kelsey, Andy Reid.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, definitely.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, some people would say Leo, I want to say Andy Reid.

[Drew Franklin]

What a great call. You think Andy Reed's nerds coming off at the reception.

[Matt Jones]

That's a good question.

[Drew Franklin]

Is who.

[Matt Jones]

Who from the NFL is going to that wedding?

[Drew Franklin]

It's awkward in that locker room because they're not inviting everybody.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, no. That's why he has to retire. Yeah.

Right. He'll invite Mahomes because he has to. Yeah. I don't know if they're close or not, but they got a.

[Drew Franklin]

They got the, the steakhouse together. They're new.

[Matt Jones]

Taylor before this from Philly when he was so. So Andy Reid is going to be.

[Drew Franklin]

Which side of the aisle does he sit on? He knew Taylor first had ring has rings.

[Matt Jones]

Travis is going to need him more. Maybe he's the best man or I think Taylor's going to have a lot more options.

[Drew Franklin]

I bet Andy Reid cries though.

[Matt Jones]

You know, we, I, I've talked about we. I met Tony pike, who is his quarterback at Cincinnati and he said they were close. I was like, are you getting the invite? And he was like, I assume not.

[Drew Franklin]

It's a tough one.

[Matt Jones]

You can't invite Tony Pike.

[Drew Franklin]

They should have picked more inviting venue. I don't think a castle in Rhode island that's off by itself. They're looking for a big wedding. Tony pike should be there though. Tony pike should just show up.

[Matt Jones]

Hello. I'm sure you meant to have me here. Well, I wish them well. That didn't.

[Drew Franklin]

Congratulations to the couple.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Who never fights.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so the biggest story today in my opinion, Philip Rivers has signed with the colts. He is 44 years old and may start this week. Riley Leonard, who by the way is a rookie. You gotta think your career's done. If they're like, if they're like, we don't want you. We'd like a man who hasn't played football in five years. By the way, did you see what somebody did? Somebody took his NFL profile, Philip Rivers and replaced the picture with Joe Bot.

Not that old. I have to say it made me laugh. I'm not gonna lie. I thought that was very clever. But this is baffling. Have we ever seen anything like this? To sit out a sport for five years, that's a long time. And he looked old when he played.

[Drew Franklin]

I gotta admit, at first when they signed him, I thought, what are they doing? I watched that press conference. He nailed the press conference.

[Matt Jones]

Who cares?

[Drew Franklin]

But first he walked in. I mean, just like the self deprecating, like I don't know my weight. Why would I possibly know my weight? But what has he been doing?

[Matt Jones]

Has he been. Has he been like, he's got nine.

[Drew Franklin]

Kids, he's been busy.

[Matt Jones]

But has he been working out?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't think so. The man that I saw at that.

[Matt Jones]

Podium, thinking about it, I kind of.

[Drew Franklin]

Kind of feel like Flacco and that Rogers.

That game gave everyone so hope when 40 year olds were just throwing haymakers.

[Matt Jones]

Like what's he. There's no way he's going to be. First of all, he's Going. He's going to get hurt.

[Drew Franklin]

He needs a good offensive line. He said it himself. I'm not outrunning anybody.

[Matt Jones]

But there's no way his timing and his speed can be right.

[Drew Franklin]

I wouldn't think so.

[Matt Jones]

He's not been coaching right now and.

[Drew Franklin]

That far out of the game.

[Matt Jones]

I believe he was selling lawn mowing equipment. Is that what he was doing? I believe I saw he was selling lawn mowing equipment.

[Drew Franklin]

I think he's probably with with this with the big family. Probably just running around the house all the time.

[Matt Jones]

He's not selling long.

[Drew Franklin]

He could have been. I don't know what he's doing in his free time.

[Matt Jones]

Well, you know they did. They did a post on.

[Drew Franklin]

On.

[Matt Jones]

On ESPN which was other guys who left the league at the same time as Philip.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, this would be good.

[Matt Jones]

Rivers and what they're doing now if they dec they got their LinkedIn profile.

[Drew Franklin]

This is good.

[Matt Jones]

Toby Gerhardt. Do you remember Toby Gerhardt?

[Drew Franklin]

Running back.

[Matt Jones]

Running back. He is the senior director of sales and enablement at Assurian.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, good for him. Life after football. That's important.

[Matt Jones]

Mike Glennon.

[Drew Franklin]

Virginia Tech. He walks so Davis Mills could run.

[Matt Jones]

He's a commercial real estate broker. Okay, that's nice. Prince Amakamura. Mara. Remember him?

[Drew Franklin]

I do, yeah.

[Billy]

Giants.

[Matt Jones]

He is the CEO of Mr. Chat. It looks. It's a children's chatting app.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. I'm very impressed. All these guys find in second careers after football.

[Matt Jones]

Josh Rosen, quarterback. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Former card.

[Matt Jones]

He is getting his MBA at the Wharton School.

[Drew Franklin]

Good for him.

[Matt Jones]

It's a really good school by the way.

[Drew Franklin]

Too late to go get an education.

[Matt Jones]

What do you think Ryan Leaf is doing?

[Drew Franklin]

I've actually seen him on on my NFL network.

[Matt Jones]

I feel like he retired before 20.

[Drew Franklin]

I've seen him doing some analyst stuff.

[Matt Jones]

The CEO of Ram Consultants and production. That's good. What about Jake Plummer? What do you think?

[Drew Franklin]

Jake Plummer's Jake the Snake.

[Matt Jones]

He's the vice president of Peace, love and mushrooms.

[Drew Franklin]

I already had suspicions of what he might be doing that actually confirmed them.

[Matt Jones]

I like that one.

[Drew Franklin]

Cardinals legend.

[Matt Jones]

That one maybe. Maybe one of my favorites. So there you go. That's who else no idea if those guys would all get brought back to play as well.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw that it works in like Rivers had to consider his hall of Fame induction because this will now. He was already on a timeline where it was coming up. This resets it I guess so he had to take that into consideration too.

[Matt Jones]

So he now. Wasn't he the same year as Eli or No.

[Drew Franklin]

And Jake Plummer.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Well, I'd be funny if he shows how bad he's loving mushrooms to give up.

[Drew Franklin]

You know, the hall of Fame, resetting that clock. You know, he really wants to be part of this and wants to play.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I wish on the original point.

[Drew Franklin]

About Riley Leonard, just you get there, you live your dream. And they're like, can anyone else let's call a 44 year old. We can't possibly.

[Matt Jones]

That's like if they decided tomorrow they'd be like, matt, we're going to put you as backup post for cover 0. Were bringing in Pat Summerall. I'm like, he did like, yeah, but. But give him a chance.

[Drew Franklin]

I let you know where you are though.

[Matt Jones]

Or Paul Harvey. Good day.

Well, I wish him the best. The thing is, the Colts still like, I guess they're doing this because they think they have a shot to win it. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, what they open 7 and 1. They went out and got Sauce Gardener, which is a win now thing. I mean it's a lot of. They were. I kind of think they were unexpected to be where they were. Not just the fans, but even in their own eyes, like, whoa, we're in contention the afc. Let's make some moves. And that has over the course of the last five, six weeks turned into. Now you have.

[Matt Jones]

Let's bring in this old guy. Yeah. Then let's see.

[Drew Franklin]

What a weird roller coaster year for them.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, no kidding. Well, there you go. So those are. Those are the Matt Jones headlines.

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[Matt Jones]

Now Billy has what I call our secondary headlines. Billy, nice to see you in your official Rob Lowe NFL hat.

[Billy]

That's right.

[Matt Jones]

What do we got?

[Billy]

I'm here. Ready to go. I do have one more note on Philip Rivers. You mentioned he has 10 kids. His oldest child is as old as Riley Leonard is.

[Drew Franklin]

23 years. He has a 23 year old.

[Billy]

23 year old.

[Drew Franklin]

First year, but not that old.

[Matt Jones]

That's got to be weird. Is it weirder that your oldest kid is the same as your backup? Or if your girlfriend is the same age as your oldest kid, which one's weirder?

[Drew Franklin]

It's tough.

[Billy]

Probably the girlfriend.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, girlfriend.

[Matt Jones]

You know, you see that sometimes where it's usually like a girlfriend and like a daughter and that daughter has to hate that woman, right? Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

It's just in the back of your brain at all times. Like you don't want to focus on it. But like the math. Maths right there. You can't. You can't ignore it.

[Matt Jones]

Wait a minute. We had. We had homeroom together, I believe. All right, what's next?

[Billy]

We need to talk about Jordan Love during Toyota Thon. Matt, you know Toyota thon, right?

[Matt Jones]

Is that where you get like a deal on Toyota?

[Billy]

Yeah, that's right.

[Drew Franklin]

You go buy a car. It's bigger than Christmas at Toyota.

[Billy]

But strangely, Jordan Love always plays well during Toyota Thon. It's usually from mid November to the first week of January. In 19 games over the last three seasons, Jordan Love has 35 touchdowns, three interceptions, and is completing 68% of his passes.

[Matt Jones]

So who figured this out? Like, who. Who was like. Great question. Jordan Love's been playing well in the month of November. It also happens to have been during Toyota.

[Billy]

Maybe a Toyota lover and a Green Bay fan.

[Matt Jones]

It has to be someone that works at Toyota because, I mean, of all, like, if you told me Jordan Love is always good in these few weeks, there's no scenario where I would think that's Toyota Thon.

[Drew Franklin]

I think you all.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know when you could have told me Toyota Thon was at any point in life and I wouldn't have known.

[Drew Franklin]

And they trust me. Toyota Thon will tell you about it. They'll advertise, but I'm with you. My brain would not go, oh, he's good. From mid November to beginning of January or whatever it is, that's Toyota Thon. This has to be a Toyota employee.

[Matt Jones]

This is big.

[Drew Franklin]

Toyota trying to work their way in.

[Matt Jones]

Knows when Toyota thon is. Car dealerships, though, are serious about their deals. Have I told you my story about buying my. My car a couple weeks ago. So I got a new car. It's. It's like a BMW. So this was like the nicest thing I've ever bought. So. And I don't know if, when you buy a new car, if you are like this, like, I'm. I'm so scared out of the plane.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, I think I'm going to crash getting out of the park. I'm not like that in regular life. But. But right when you buy it, are.

[Drew Franklin]

You a big purchase? You're like, I've only done it once ever, and it wasn't even for me.

[Matt Jones]

You're like, I hold out my hand when I doing the turn just to make sure everybody knows. But there was some sort of financing deal where on December 1, the rate was going to be 0.99%. It's like an amazing rate. But then the next day it would go Back to market, which is like 6.1. Okay.

It's weird to me you have a system where it can fluctuate that much.

In a day. But Mario dropped me off to get it. The paperwork had to be in and signed by five o'.

[Jeremiah]

Clock.

[Matt Jones]

Now, I guess I don't know why it was their internal system, but this woman was running around like crazy and she was like, hurry, hurry. And I'm like, I don't know what. I'm signing my name. And she's like, it's 4:53.

[Drew Franklin]

Faster, faster.

[Matt Jones]

I may have signed away the rights to Billy.

I don't know. I signed whatever sheet they put in front of me. And like, you know, you had to figure out, are you going to get the extended maintenance. I had to decide in like two and a half minutes.

[Drew Franklin]

It's an uncomfortable situation.

[Matt Jones]

And I was like.

I probably won't change the oil. Yes, give me. So anyway, they're serious about these thawns at these.

[Drew Franklin]

Sometimes I think there might be some. Listen, I don't want to. I don't want to blow up any. I don't want to blow up anybody's spots here. And we appreciate the NFL sponsors. Everyone needs to.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, by the way, do we have a car dealership? Well, you can beep out BMW, just say whatever car sponsors this show. Hyundai. All right, go ahead.

[Drew Franklin]

I do worry there's a little bit of dishonesty in the process. They want you to be as uncomfortable as possible.

[Matt Jones]

I think. So, yeah. There's like, put pressure on, like screaming. See, I always have the thing of I'm going on the radio. I tell them that up front. Oh, that's a bargaining chip. My dad, Larry, his. His method of doing cars is the one I've done. He would sit down and look at the person and go, I don't like to haggle.

So bottom line, I'm going to give you one chance to give me an offer. I will either take it or leave it. There will be no negotiating. So you have to make a profit. I understand that, but this is it. And we will get something else if you do. Not surprisingly effective, because they're not. You're taking the power from them.

[Billy]

I like that idea.

[Matt Jones]

It's a. It's a power move. Larry had a power move and I've adopted that. But I throw in an extra line, I'm going on the radio.

[Drew Franklin]

It's not a threat. Don't take this as a threat. I'm just letting you know.

[Matt Jones]

No, I'll do it with a smile.

And That, I think, is how you make sure. And then you get. You might get a little more, Might cost a little more than if you really haggled, but it guarantees you don't get screwed. So shout out. Feel free to use Larry's move. It's the Larry Power move.

[Drew Franklin]

So I've never done something like that over a car, but I've been in negotiations where you have to turn your back and say, I'm leaving. And even though that first step, you're like, oh, I don't know if I'm doing this right, they're the ones freaking out.

[Matt Jones]

But you have to be willing to.

[Drew Franklin]

Leave, and they'll chase you down.

[Matt Jones]

You have to be willing to leave.

[Drew Franklin]

Like, that's like.

[Matt Jones]

You have to be willing to walk out the door, and then they know you've meant business.

[Drew Franklin]

Because if you really walk out that door, they're getting nothing anyway.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. They also said to me, they're like, matt, this is a car that you must do the maintenance. Then Mario said, that's all, because, like, you know, I had the Lexus, and those things will drive into the moon. They were like.

You have to do the maintenance on this, so I won't. And then you're not a big oil change.

[Drew Franklin]

We all know our weaknesses. Yours might be oil changes.

[Matt Jones]

No, I gotta do it on this one. Apparently, the car, like, calls you.

It's time.

[Drew Franklin]

It locks the doors and won't let you out until you take it for an oil change.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. All right, what's next?

[Billy]

It was a big win for the Chargers on Monday Night Football. They beat the Eagles in overtime, 22 to 19. But probably what got the most attention was Justin Herbert and Laura Rutledge.

[Matt Jones]

After the game, I didn't like this.

[Billy]

Laura was trying to interview him for the TV broadcast, and Justin was blowing her off. He said he was trying to celebrate with my team. He eventually rolled his eyes and did do the interview with Laura Rutledge. But in a week where there have been a lot of questions about Justin Herbert, he had surgery last week on his left hand before they played. Maybe he was a little bit too defensive.

[Matt Jones]

I'm rolling my eyes at him. Laura Rutledge is the nicest person in the world. I've known Laura Rutledge for years. She's so nice. She's sweet, she's smart.

[Billy]

He.

[Matt Jones]

He was. That was not. He owes her an apology. Go celebrate with your team. That's fine. But you can do the interview or just walk away, but don't roll your eyes at Laura Rutledge. I didn't like this trip.

[Drew Franklin]

And your. Everything you said about Laura Rutledge is accurate, but also a big part of why you're Justin Herbert are these media deals. This wasn't like a random thing on the street. Every player after every game has done that quick interview coaches. Like that's just part of it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. This isn't part of the deal. Like somebody holding up and write yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 for a TikTok video.

[Drew Franklin]

This is, you know, they're not interrupting his dinner. This was post game on the field. Everyone does it. Everyone then goes and celebrates with their teammate. This wasn't like some big intrusive thing that Laura Rose was doing. It's something that's been done after every game for decades. You should have expected her.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't like it. He started dating Madison Beer and he's gotten too fancy. I thought that was an interesting game, though. The Eagles, ever since that dude from Philly co hosted with me on ESPN and said the Eagles weren't good and I went, how can you say that? They've been awful. Are you out on the Eagles?

[Drew Franklin]

I thought they had figured out and Eds found some kind of defensive identity. But then there. It's kind of the point. Like the offense can't really do much of anything. They had the nice fake tush push where Saquon looks like they're A.J. brown had a bad drop. I mean, I don't have their numbers in front of me, but they haven't been putting up points really at all lately. And that won't be able to take them far into the playoffs and get to their ultimate goal.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't get it. I don't understand how Jalen hurts can be so inconsistent at times because at times he looks like one of the best five quarterbacks in the league. And then, I mean, that's. Lamar has completely fallen off the planet too. I mean, what happened to Lamar?

[Drew Franklin]

You know, for a while you could be like, oh, he's coming back from injury, but it just keeps going and going. And then it's bad interceptions and.

[Matt Jones]

And it's not just even the scrambling. Like he just makes bad decisions. I don't know. He's just not Lamar.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And it makes me sad. I mean, we're losing. My homes will be back, but we're losing my homes, losing Lamar.

[Drew Franklin]

Josh Allen had a big.

[Matt Jones]

Josh Allen's been great. Right. He's turning it on at the right time come back. So that's good. But I Don't want to live in a world that Drake May is one of the three best quarterbacks. I don't want that Bo Nicks. I don't believe in Bo Nix. You wait. Bo Nix is going to lose. Bonix is losing his first round playoff game and throwing three interceptions. Write it down.

[Drew Franklin]

It's big scoop. You're right about the Lamar. I'm not even a Lamar fan from our Kentucky Louisville days. But I need, you know, but I, I know that the NFL needs him to be good because he is when he's at his peak, the most entertaining player in the league.

[Matt Jones]

Tony Decouple is the new anchor at cbs.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Billy]

I don't know who that is.

[Matt Jones]

He's the guy. He's on CBS this Morning. I don't know anything about him except my ex is one is his producer and says he's like the nicest guy in the world. He's the guy who did the interview with Bill Belichick's girlfriend or no, but Bill Belichick where his girlfriend was like.

[Billy]

Yeah, we're not talking about that.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that was him.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

This guy, really good hair.

[Billy]

It does.

[Matt Jones]

And he's apparently very, very nice. So then I support it. Was that on your list of news?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. I wouldn't want to get too far into the show.

[Billy]

I'm glad you brought it up.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I didn't want to take one of your scoops. Go ahead.

[Billy]

It is week 15 so we have clinching scenarios when it comes to the playoffs this week.

[Matt Jones]

The Patriots wondering what the next word was going to be.

[Billy]

The Patriots can clinch the AFC east this week with a win versus the Bills. Meanwhile, both 1 seeds, the Rams and the Broncos can clinch a playoff Bertha with a win. So we're almost there.

[Matt Jones]

Patriots. Bill's a great game. I want the Bills to win a lot. This, the Bills, this is the year for them to get to the Super Bowl. I feel like we're going to pass.

I feel like this is the year the Chiefs should hand it to the Bills for two years. I don't think we're in Broncos time yet and that's. And I know we're Pats and that's why I really want the Bills to win this game. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

And they've been so close for so long. If somebody deserves it as them and even the way they're turning it on late. We just mentioned Josh Allen but I mean the Bengals had him dead in a snow game in Buffalo. But then you get a little bit of that Bills magic. Part of was part of it was the Bengals collapse. But just like the Josh Allen 40 yard run in the snow getting those turnovers to pick six. It's like the Bills are starting to find a little magic. Right. As we're creeping up on the playoffs where a lot of those teams that we thought would be in the conversation are going the other way.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm for the Bills now. The game is in. Is in New England. Right. What do you think? What's the name of the city? Fontana.

[Colin Coward]

Gillette.

[Matt Jones]

That's a fun Taylor.

[Drew Franklin]

The best demand can get.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going with the Bill. And it's also a rare like best game of the weekends at one o'. Clock. They've been doing that more. I mean the main event game in the late window is lines Rams. I would argue Patriots. Bill is a better game, don't you think?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. This is the. Even though Lions. Rams is huge. Lions are down a little bit. This is. This is big for me.

[Matt Jones]

Oh no. Packers, Broncos. That's probably the game they'll have is the big one.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm. My brain's still not ready to have Broncos as that one seed, as you've been saying this whole show. But for me it's Bill's Patriots. Because if are the Patriots for real. I know they've won a million games in a row and all that. Some of them still not beating the best teams. Can you get the Bills again? You're at home.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

See if they've truly changed the guard there in that division.

[Matt Jones]

Breaking news. One in Michigan is firing Sharon Moore. Shrone. It's big news for cause.

[Billy]

They just don't want to pay that buyout.

[Matt Jones]

Wasn't he part of the cheating thing?

[Drew Franklin]

He was.

[Matt Jones]

So they just wait until they start losing and then say it was for cause.

[Drew Franklin]

Were you on that staff back in 2023?

[Matt Jones]

Every year.

[Drew Franklin]

Wait a minute. You were a water boy.

[Matt Jones]

How long do you get to bring that up? So that's a big job coming open, right? Definitely.

[Drew Franklin]

This is a wild carousel when they.

[Matt Jones]

Just won the title. Well, that was with Harbaugh. So foreign.

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All right, what's next?

[Billy]

NFL Teams voted today at the virtual December league meetings to support financially the development and launch of a professional flag football league. They will invest up to $32 million for this league and they hope to build on the momentum that the flag football will have when it debuts at the LA Olympic Games in 2028.

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So who owns it?

[Billy]

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[Matt Jones]

Oh, then it's a good idea.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

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[Drew Franklin]

Sounds like something they could have us podcast about.

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That's true.

[Drew Franklin]

They could send us to cover the flag.

[Matt Jones]

I kind of feel like I'll be a sideline reporter for the NFL flag football.

[Drew Franklin]

You're going to be tracking down the star quarterback like Laura Rutledge. Justin Herbert fighting to get that post.

[Billy]

Game interview, trying to celebrate.

[Matt Jones]

I could be the Laura Rutledge for the no. So flag football.

I like when kids get to play flag football and women. I don't know about flag football for. For guys. I mean, we had this conversation about a year ago about. Because. Because the dude who's like the best flag football quarterback said he'd be better at it than Mahomes.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Do you remember that? Do we think that's plausible? Is there a different skill to it?

[Drew Franklin]

There is a different skill to it.

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What is it?

[Drew Franklin]

I couldn't break it down, but like Rajon Rondo, who played point guard in the NBA and here in Kentucky is like ranked as one of the best quarterbacks in flag football.

[Matt Jones]

In the country.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Could be on our Olympic team.

[Matt Jones]

That's not true.

[Drew Franklin]

Wow. That's fact.

[Matt Jones]

You're making it up.

[Drew Franklin]

Mario, tell him.

[Matt Jones]

But he's like 42.

[Drew Franklin]

No, that's the thing.

[Matt Jones]

No, he's not. That. You're making that up. Like, that's not true. Rondo's not going to be on the Olympic team.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, probably won't be on the Olympic team, but he is one of the best flights.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, like, okay, I believe like, in his league he's pretty good, but, like, worldwide. Rondo is not playing flag football at a high level in 2020.

[Drew Franklin]

He plays for Team USA and I don't know what flag football.

[Billy]

Top ranked flag football quarterback.

[Matt Jones]

Stop it. You're making this up.

[Drew Franklin]

Like you like our Team USA system, not like some Louisville rec league.

[Matt Jones]

You're telling me that Rajon Rondo is a contender to play for team USA flag football.

[Drew Franklin]

That is from August 2026. Rajon Rondo is officially 26.

[Matt Jones]

It's next year.

[Drew Franklin]

Excuse me. August 26, 2025. Rajon Rondo is officially the top ranked flag football quarterback in the United States.

[Billy]

There's a graphic by USA Flag Football.

[Matt Jones]

If you're the NFL and you're doing this, then he's got to play.

Right? Like, if you want to build a flag football league, you want someone I.

[Drew Franklin]

Know with some name recognition. Because I know the guy you brought up couldn't tell you his name. Like, I know that story, but I know Rajon Rondo.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know if I believe it. I mean, just think about what the equivalent of that would be. Right? There's a three on three football league. There's a three on three basketball league, and apparently the best player is Drew Brees.

Come on.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, it's the world we're living in. Do you want to watch and throw it around? There's highlights.

[Billy]

The NFL is allowing their players to participate in flag football in the 28 Olympics.

[Matt Jones]

No, that's cool. So the skill that is different is what? Elusiveness, I guess. Hips. It's all like Shakira in the hips.

[Drew Franklin]

Gotta be in the hips. Just avoiding getting that flag pulled.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm with you on how I don't love it, but if you know we're going to play and it's in the Olympics, I guess I got to get behind it. We don't want to be the losers. We got roll Rondo out there and get behind it. We will.

[Matt Jones]

It's like, let's be real. I'll watch anything except pickleball.

[Drew Franklin]

So what if they did just trot out for the olympics like the NFL's best? We have Jackson, Smith and Jigbo playing in the Olympics.

[Matt Jones]

Other countries, but no one else plays football.

[Drew Franklin]

That's why it feels like we just threw this in there. Bring it on, Italy.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I mean, are they going to be like.

No one plays football anyway, so.

[Drew Franklin]

We'Re taking a secondary level of sport that they don't play already.

[Matt Jones]

Where are we going to play?

[Drew Franklin]

We're just going to beat everybody. You know, they get us in soccer. This is our way of getting them back.

[Matt Jones]

That's got to be a. We're just trying to pad the gold medal stats. You know, that's.

[Billy]

I don't hate it.

[Matt Jones]

You're fine with that? Just making up sports? Only we play.

[Billy]

I'm fine with winning.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. We're going to like having a Real Housewives of Salt Lake trivia contest.

[Drew Franklin]

We're at Miles Garrett out there and just ripping flags off of people who.

[Matt Jones]

Have never played football. I don't know that Miles Garrett would be the skill set, he wouldn't be good.

[Drew Franklin]

He'd be intimidating. If he wants to play, he's got.

[Matt Jones]

To figure out, I think, I would think the talent is speed.

[Drew Franklin]

That's right. But if you're one of these other countries, you don't even know what football is and there's Miles Garrett, I would think that's a little intimidating.

[Matt Jones]

Well, if you go to the Olympics and you don't know what football is, I think it's going to be a hard, hard sell for you.

[Drew Franklin]

We support it, though. Good job. NFL. We root for it and we'd love to cover a game.

[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Billy]

Well, while we're speaking about the international game, the NFL will play regular season games in Munich, Germany, in both 2026 and 2028, announced this week. Germany actually has the largest American football fan base in Europe with about 20 million fans. So they will play a game in Germany.

[Matt Jones]

Did we do that this year?

[Billy]

Four straight years? They did do it again this year.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, we're going to end up playing these games everywhere, which is fine. I mean, I'm good with it. Germans. You know, there is the part of Europe that likes football the most is like Germany, the Czech Republic.

I think like Poland. Like, that's where I think the NFL Europe has, has had some success. Is that sort of Eastern European to Germany area. So it doesn't, it makes sense they.

[Drew Franklin]

Would play there and there. You know, we see when they make these trips on these Sunday mornings, we're up at 9:30. We see the appetite for it over there. They get great crowds. I think a lot of times they might not know what they're looking at. And they're always wearing Jacksonville jerseys. But that's a, that's a start. They want more of it. And the NFL would be crazy not.

[Matt Jones]

To go to a lot of stadiums they can play in because they built these huge stadiums to host the World cup and the European Championship. So. So, you know, part of the problem is in Europe, there aren't. They don't have these mega stadiums like we have a lot of them. But, but Germany I think does. So that probably makes sense to go there all for it.

[Drew Franklin]

And for me, just selfishly, I like the unique times and you know, 1 o', clock, 4:30, 8 o'. Clock. That's great. Been doing that my whole life. Yeah, sure. Six in the morning, whenever you got to put them on. Give me more NFL.

[Matt Jones]

I'll tell you something I bet you didn't know. Okay. Do you realize how much more north countries in Europe are than America. So I want you to think about where Rome, Italy is on a map. Okay. Yeah. Where do you think Rome, Italy is in relation to North America? Like in terms of latitude.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Where do you think Rome is compared to North America?

[Billy]

Like above Florida slightly.

[Matt Jones]

Where do you think it is?

[Drew Franklin]

Never even thought about it. I'll say somewhere along the lines of Baltimore.

[Matt Jones]

About Montreal.

[Colin Coward]

Really?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Montreal, Madrid, which you think of as like hot, is New York.

So you people don't realize. So, like Germany is like mid Canada.

[Drew Franklin]

Interesting.

[Matt Jones]

So my. I don't know what my point is.

[Drew Franklin]

We're expanding our minds, though. I've never even thought about anything because.

[Matt Jones]

You see the globe and the way the globe looks, you know, they flatten it so as to see, but. So you don't really realize that it's the same latitude. Like, I like. Let me see if I can find real quick. I'm going to give you cities that are the same latitude. Cities that are same. Is it latitude or longitude? I never know which one. Switch.

[Billy]

Yeah, I don't either.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So San Francisco is the same as Beijing.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Did you know that?

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't. I'm trying to picture the globe in my head here.

[Matt Jones]

What else?

Let's see. Oh, Fairbank Banks. Alaska is the same as Rejovic. Iceland.

[Billy]

I could see that.

[Drew Franklin]

That one I would have predicted a little bit. I see. I envision both those as being far north.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

What would I run into if I just.

[Matt Jones]

Athens, Greece.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Where would you. If you just thought about. You'd probably think Athens, Greece is like.

[Billy]

Mexico, like a southern climate.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. San Francisco.

[Billy]

That is interesting.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Well, that's what I'm here for.

[Drew Franklin]

The stuff we're learning on this show.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, does that have anything to do with the NFL? No, but it just felt like something you'd want.

[Drew Franklin]

But if you listen to Cover Zero this week, this episode, you're walking away knowing more about how to buy a and more about our planet and, you.

[Matt Jones]

Know, more about the NFL. Maybe not. Well, no. You know what Mike Glennon's doing.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. You've taught us a lot.

[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Billy]

The Bears, after Falling from the 1 to the 7 seed in the NFC, host the Browns at home this week. They're saying it's negative 20 windchill at this game.

[Drew Franklin]

That's crazy.

[Billy]

But Kevin Stefanski announced that Shadur Sanders would be the Cleveland starting quarterback for the rest of the season after he threw for 364 yards and three touchdowns with versus Drew's Titans in a loss.

[Matt Jones]

It's the most praise I've ever seen someone get for losing to the Titans.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

We let him have a day.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I played well in the fourth quarter. But they did lose to the Titans. But I mean, they should let him start through the end of the year. I think that makes sense. Would you go sit in the cold? Let's say you were me. Your Bears are 9 and 4. You're playing at home. Would you go sit to watch this game?

[Drew Franklin]

This is. I would prefer like when we went to Lambeau, I wanted. I wanted a blizzard. Like I. Sure you'll be a little cold, but it'll get a little cold during the game. But that's like. That's the experience. That's what you'd remember.

[Matt Jones]

And you're playing a team that's also used to the cold. So I don't know that it'll have the impact it would if you're playing like the Dolphins or something like that. No.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe shoulder throw Shadur off a little bit here. But no, if I'm if from a fan experience, I want the absolute worst. We were talking about how fun just that Buffalo Bengals game was. Lastly, just watching it at home. Like there's nothing better than a good, good snow.

[Matt Jones]

Snow games are the best.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. And hopefully the Bears get one in Chicago this Sunday with the weather being.

[Matt Jones]

As bad as lost to the Packers. But I actually was encouraged by the game. Came down to the final play.

[Drew Franklin]

The bad throw. It was there defensive play.

[Matt Jones]

He didn't make a good play. But you know what? We were in that game. We were legit against the team that I think is one of the three or four best teams in the league. So I was felt good about that game. This is however, the kind of game we would lose.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, come on. Not to the Browns.

[Matt Jones]

But they just. What are they? Are we like an 8 1/2 point.

[Drew Franklin]

Favorite or 7 1/2?

[Matt Jones]

7 1/2. See, like that to me is a bet. The Browns game maybe.

[Drew Franklin]

Even though the Browns didn't beat the Titans, I feel like they're acting like they did with Shador having a good game. Miles Garrett's got every record you can think of right now. I feel like they're already celebrating from a week ago.

[Matt Jones]

I think we win, but I think we win by like three Browns beat.

[Billy]

The packers earlier this year.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think the Browns wacko.

[Drew Franklin]

The.

[Matt Jones]

I think the Browns are.

They're. They're saucy.

[Drew Franklin]

They are.

[Matt Jones]

They're like a night out with Char.

[Drew Franklin]

Bar.

And they almost. I mean, Shador threw an amazing throw to Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green to almost put the title.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, I. You.

[Drew Franklin]

Because of you, the Browns back in.

[Matt Jones]

Every time they say the name, I just go from Bowling.

[Drew Franklin]

I was so far in front of that. By the way, they didn't play the game yet. I don't think when I said watch.

[Matt Jones]

Out, come up with him.

[Drew Franklin]

Everybody was talking about in Joku and this and that. I think I saw a preseason game where they targeted him a lot. It's like, wait a minute, this is tight end from Bowling Green. And I'd never heard of him if you'd asked me on draft night. Wouldn't know a thing about him. I just randomly watched a preseason game probably for Shador and saw that he was getting a lot of targets.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

And then it panned out more than I ever imagined.

[Matt Jones]

He's done it. He's done great. And you know Caleb. Gotta say, happy with Caleb.

[Drew Franklin]

I saw a clip breaking down that interception. It was a bad interception, but the defender made a pretty spectacular play.

[Matt Jones]

How would you rank those quarterbacks in that class now? I mean, McCarthy and Pinnocks are clearly five and six. But now you go Drake May, Bo Nix, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams. What would the order be now?

[Colin Coward]

I.

[Drew Franklin]

Even though you're not ready to put him up there, I have to go Drake May 1st because it just keeps winning.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, then who?

[Drew Franklin]

Michael?

[Matt Jones]

Caleb.

[Drew Franklin]

Jaden Daniels has been so hurt this year, it's hard to see what he is. Was last year just flash in the pan. He hadn't had much of an opportunity. So I might go Caleb Williams.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. See, I would go Drake May probably number one. I don't want to, but I'd say Caleb to Jade Daniels. Three Bo Nicks for just because I don't believe in Bo Nicks. But he keeps winning, so I'm not.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean they can just discredit when every Sunday goes out wins the game.

[Matt Jones]

But it's interesting because at the end of last year, you might have had Caleb Williams fifth. You might have even had Michael Pinnicks ahead of him. And now he's moved up to where he's probably in my opinion either second or third between what you think about him and Daniels.

[Drew Franklin]

And it shows so much the system and the coach. You know, Caleb Williams has had a good turnaround from a year ago on his own. But getting Ben Johnson and an offense that. That really can produce has been a big part of him playing better too. And you still get the packers one more shot at him. Yeah we do to try to even.

[Matt Jones]

The score by the way John Josh Allen Drake may that may be for the MVP Sunday too like we all.

[Drew Franklin]

Like we all expected.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that may be what's next.

[Billy]

You mentioned Jaden Daniels. He will be out for this week's game versus the Giants after he re injured his elbow injury injuries is he?

[Matt Jones]

I feel like he's gotten hurt all times leveled last him.

[Drew Franklin]

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[Billy]

This is my final news note here. The Bucs are getting Mike Evans back this week. That's going to be a big help versus the Falcons for Thursday Night Football. They do. They've lost five of their last seven. They're frauds. But wow, they're, they're pulling a little Indianapolis Colts here. Going back to the vault. They have signed 36 year old Jason Pierre Paul to be their next edge rusher. You remember he won a Super bowl with the Giants and the Bucks in 2020. He also had a firework accident in which he had to remove his right index finger and severely damaged his thumb.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I mean I, I didn't know what Jason, I thought he worked with Mike Glennon so I didn't know what he was doing. I wish him the best, but your team stinks and your Coach calls stupid 4th and ones that never work.

[Drew Franklin]

Igbuka can't catch a game tying touchdown drops.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So you all are bad and it rains all the time. Yeah.

[Billy]

And Baker is, has not been good since we started.

[Matt Jones]

And like he's got to be hurt though, right?

[Billy]

Well, yeah, there was a couple weeks he wasn't running at and now he's, he's doing a little bit more but you got to think there's something I've.

[Matt Jones]

Got to think he's hurt. Like nothing else would explain the huge drop off unless he was hurt.

[Drew Franklin]

In hindsight I'm glad you didn't go ask for that picture in Buffalo. He seems to be down a little bit. Remember he had just taken a loss. We thought it'll be fine.

[Matt Jones]

He'll be back. Well, you were gonna ask him for a picture and he was like with his girlfriend and they were making out and you Wanted to like tap on his shoulder.

[Drew Franklin]

And it's all been downhill from that moment.

[Matt Jones]

And I was like, don't. They're making out.

[Billy]

I could have cheered him up, though.

[Drew Franklin]

Though they were sad.

[Billy]

I could have changed the season, honestly.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think you should have gone.

[Matt Jones]

Up and talked, you think in that scenario, by the way, he wasn't really making out. He was. He was not. He was talking to someone after a bad loss. He wanted to go up and go.

[Billy]

They work with the NFL, Billy. NFL just wanted to ask him a couple questions, you know, and not ask him.

[Matt Jones]

But he was like he was with his family.

[Billy]

Yeah, well, I didn't. I've got the respect. But if I did.

[Matt Jones]

Because I told you not to. If I did, maybe.

Going to.

[Drew Franklin]

I was on one shoulder. You were on the.

[Matt Jones]

Should not do it.

[Drew Franklin]

But it's all been losing since then, right? Has there been a win since that game? Oh, they got the Cardinals. They had the Cardinal.

[Billy]

Oh, yeah. Well, we got the Panthers at the end of year. That's all that matters, right?

[Matt Jones]

That may be the game that matters. All right, it is now time for the victory bundle presented by Liberty Mutual. This is three picks that we picked together from the games this weekend. And if you win, then you win.

I'm going to take the Bengals to beat the Ravens. I believe the Ravens are a five and a half point favorite and I. And the game is in Cincinnati. I don't really understand that line. I don't know what the Ravens have done to be a five and a half point favorite. I would even pick the Bengals to win the game. So I'm going to take the Cincinnati Bengals to win. What about you?

[Drew Franklin]

I am going to go to Sunday Night Football, a team that I'll admit I had given up on. But the Dallas Cowboys are in the mix and staring down the Eagles and still in a spot in the NFC or in the playoffs. Out of the nfc. They play the Vikings, who I think just had a fluke win last week and they'll get back to the real world and not be nearly as good that they took advantage of that 31 oh shutout. So I think the Cowboys handled business at home in prime time against Minnesota. I believe they're 4 1/2 5-point favorite. Cowboys need to win. They have something to play for. The Vikings don't. I think it'll be a big bounce back for Pickens and the Cowboys score a lot of points in that one.

[Matt Jones]

So you're taking Dallas to cover?

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so you. I'm taking Cincinnati you are taking Dallas and then let's figure out. Oh, I'm sorry. The Beam. Boy, that game started at five and only one and a half now. Now.

I'm still going to take the Bengals, although I like it a lot less at one and a half. I also like the Bills getting one and a half in New England.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't hate the Bills. As I was saying earlier that when a lot of teams are going the wrong direction, we're throwing them aside. The Bills have just. They. They had some down game, some questions about their defense, but they're looking like they're starting to get back to their right form just in the right of time as the playoffs are creeping up. Josh Allen had an enormous game in that comeback back.

[Matt Jones]

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[Billy]

I am still alive.

[Drew Franklin]

We actually have to ask the committee. I'm not going to take it away from, but the pick he claimed he was going to have last week is questionable.

[Matt Jones]

Well, we didn't have a show on Sunday night.

[Billy]

Wednesday last week you did not do a show. Correct. So we didn't have a pick. I told Drew I would have picked the Saints to beat the Bucks because I saw that game coming from a mile away. If you don't want to count that pick, you don't have to.

[Matt Jones]

I'm not. Well, I'm just gonna act like you didn't pick because you didn't. You were not gonna pick.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, big underdog.

[Matt Jones]

No one's gonna pick a 3 and a 2 and 10 team.

[Billy]

I told the whole.

[Drew Franklin]

On the road. Yeah, you can let him know. He doesn't believe he.

[Matt Jones]

I don't believe you. I'm not going to believe you. So let's just assume that you're. I let. Let's just. I'll give you another chance because most of the teams got knocked out last.

[Drew Franklin]

Week and in the other weeks we missed some. I don't want to discredit what he's doing. I was out week one, so it shouldn't come from me.

[Matt Jones]

I think. I think you're. You've been eliminated.

[Drew Franklin]

Maybe you pick two this week. He picks two this week and they both have to hit.

[Matt Jones]

I picked. There we go.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, there's some big spreads this week. You could do this easily.

[Billy]

I'm going with the Philadelphia Eagles. That was going to be my first pick. I have not picked them yet. Kenny Pickett and the Raiders aren't going to get anything Done.

[Matt Jones]

I think that's a good come back.

[Drew Franklin]

There you go.

[Billy]

And then I'm going Bears, Bears over the Browns.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so you're taking the Eagles and Bears. This is a two. You've got to get two to survive.

[Colin Coward]

I got to have both.

[Billy]

I haven't picked either team, obviously, so.

[Matt Jones]

And I'll even let you pick the Saints again if you wanted sometime. All right, Eagles and Bears. Billy. That is his survival. Now, where are we on our. Am I still ahead by one?

[Billy]

You are. We all missed week 13. You picked Puka, I picked Trayvon Henderson, and then Drew went Brosmer.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay, so hindsight.

[Billy]

Brosmer was 5:42 is the score.

[Drew Franklin]

I appreciate you trying to talk me out of that.

[Matt Jones]

5:40. That was a terrible. All right, Drew, I will let you go first.

[Drew Franklin]

And I get any position player, any position.

Trying to think have I used. I know the 49ers play my Titans, and I like to fade my Titans.

[Billy]

You go on CMC.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'll go McCaffrey. I don't think.

[Matt Jones]

I don't think you've used them.

[Billy]

I think I've picked them. I don't think you have.

[Matt Jones]

So you got Christian McCaffrey. That means, Billy, you can pick. Pick either a wide receiver or a quarterback.

[Billy]

Yeah, I got a little Kentucky flavor here.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going.

[Billy]

Wandell Robinson vs. The Commanders Commander's 3rd worst passing defense to slot receivers.

[Matt Jones]

What?

[Billy]

They've given up the most receiving yards to slot receivers, the third most.

[Matt Jones]

How do you know the next generator.

[Drew Franklin]

That must be above the payfold on the website. Above the paywall.

[Matt Jones]

There's no way you know that. I need you to take that back. Back.

[Billy]

It's.

[Matt Jones]

Because, I mean, it might be true, but you don't know that.

[Billy]

I do the prep work that goes into the show.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, last week, his stat was The Bears are 1 and O in game since Ben Johnson's taking his shirt off. So that's our new stat we're watching.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know that that is a stat. That's.

[Billy]

You don't like the Wandell stat? I mean, it's. It's fantasy football playoffs this week. Trying to find them.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

CD Lamb was bragging about Wandell on a podcast.

[Matt Jones]

I'll let you take more credit. All right, so I have to figure out what I'm going to take here. And, you know, I've picked most of the running quarterbacks over the course of the year.

[Drew Franklin]

Philip Rivers, he's right there in front of you.

[Billy]

Oh, that would be all time. Shador Dark Bears Jackson Dart.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to take Dak. There you go. I'm going to take Dak. I don't haven't taken him. I'm going to say Dak gets it in the end zone and says whoomp, there it is. Thought you knew and gets it. Give me, give me Dak Prescott.

[Drew Franklin]

I like this. Every time I say I like it, we go on three. So we'd be careful to be too optimistic, but I don't think we've all.

[Matt Jones]

Never gotten one yet. But that's, that's okay. All right, so there you have it. All the news you need and some you didn't. We will be back on Sunday to go over all the games. Big Wheat no buys. This is the There are more games on Sunday than any other week for the rest of the year because starting next week you start getting games on Saturday and etc. So this is the fullest Sunday we'll have. So enjoy it. We'll see you later.

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