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NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Well, an absolutely crazy day of football week one of the NFL, and it is time for our first NFL Cover Zero reaction show. We're going to be doing this every Sunday night. Come down after the Sunday night game is over and talk about all the games of the of the day. Drew Franklin and I, we've never done this late at night like this, but we've got Drew. We are. Well, we got Billy and Mario here as well, Drew. So I'm going to just be honest with everybody. I think honesty is the best policy. Don't agree with. You're actually hearing the second version of this because with 10 minutes and 25 seconds to go in the Sunday night game, the Ravens were up 40 to 25 and got the ball after an interception. And I thought to myself, well, it's over. Let's go ahead and start. That way we can get some sleep tonight. And then all of a sudden, we look up and the Bills is a minute to go and they're going to drive and take the lead. We've now gone back and watched it, but the very first version of this show you'll never hear it will be in the unedited archives that will release when the history of the show is over. What an amazing comeback by the Buffalo Bills.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Minor inconvenience for us. Will be a little more tired tomorrow. But what a great week one ending just having that game on the schedule. We were blessed to have that. That's an AFC championship game. And then for.
Matt Jones
It feels like the worst. The wrong team won. That's true. No, I mean, the Ravens look like the best team the entire time. And the Bills are going to get this win. They deserve it. But after what we saw from Lamar and Derek Henry, it feels like the wrong team won. But they won.
Drew Franklin
But you know, Mark Andrews last year drops the ball and the team wins. That's football. It did. And if anyone ever hears the lost episode, you know it did look like the Ravens were unstoppable. I don't know if I predicted an undefeated season, but for 95% of that game, it looked like the Ravens are going to be a force.
Matt Jones
Derek Henry with a fumble you just can't, can't have. It's 40 to 32, three minutes to go. You basically can run out the game. If you get one or two first downs and he coughs it up in Bill's territory, you know, he'd had such an amazing game, absolutely bulldozing, but that's a mistake you just can't make. It's very similar to the Andrews drop last year. These are vets can't make the mistake.
Drew Franklin
And one he doesn't normally make. Been watching that guy a long time and that's not something he does. Ruined an otherwise great night. 170 yards, he averaged like 10 yards of rush. There was the long run, 50 yarder for a touchdown where he's just blowing past the secondary. Looks like peak. Derek Henry at age 31. And I, as much as I hate seeing him with the Ravens, I hate seeing him worse. They cut to him on the sideline and zoomed in on him and he's got that look after the fumble. I hate to see it go out like that.
Matt Jones
I mean, this is probably the early favorite for game of the year. Even though it's, it's week one. I wonder how many people had turned it off. I mean, I know two, I know two.
Drew Franklin
You and I turned it off with those two teams.
Matt Jones
Derek Henry, 169 yards rushing. Okay. Lamar Jackson was 14 of 19, 209. Zay Flowers has a career high 143 three yards receiving and they still lose. That one's got to hurt. If you're a Baltimore fan, that has got to hurt. And of course, Josh Allen gets the win. We got to talk though about the. The Buffalo kicker, 41 year old Matt Prater, who honestly I thought retired in 1997. They show him on the sideline with a minute 40 to go. He looks like he's in a Marlboro ad. I mean, let me just say he looked older than 41 to me. You know, sometimes people go, he looks good for his age. Matt looked like he'd been rough. And then he comes in and gets the kick. I guess Tyler Bass had pelvic pain and they call him up. He was retired sitting on his couch on Thursday and now he makes the winning kick on Sunday night. That's kind of amazing.
Drew Franklin
Earlier in the game, he had come in for the Extra point on Buffalo's opening drive. And I watching tv went, Matt Prater, what is he doing on the Bills? That guy's had no expectation it'd come down to this. And right before he kicks the game winner, they're saying on the broadcast that doesn't know his teammates names. Barely. He's caught up on.
Matt Jones
He didn't know who Josh Allen was. Feels like he should follow the news.
Drew Franklin
But I mean, I even thought it was a little bit of a gamble putting on his shoulders at the end where the Bills are running out of the clock, setting up the field goal. You're right there at the edge of the end zone, you have all these stars and you're putting that whole game with all this, maybe home field at stake with, with Matt Prater fresh off the red eye, but he got it done.
Matt Jones
Let me give you some Matt Prater information. Born in 1984, born in the Reagan administration. Right. He was considered one of the best long distance field goal kickers in history. He has the record for most 50 plus yard field goals in a career. Now he had been retired. He was living in Mayfield Heights, Ohio. Kicked at Central Florida, was drafted in 2006. How about this? Guess how many teams he's played for.
Drew Franklin
Oh, he's a journeyman, I'm going to say probably five or six.
Matt Jones
Nine.
Drew Franklin
Nine. Wow.
Matt Jones
For nine teams. And now he comes and gets that.
Drew Franklin
I know him as a Cardinal. Longtime Cardinal.
Matt Jones
Matt Prater. Who would have ever imagined? All right, so let's talk about some other things for this game. First of all, would you have gone for it there if you were, if you were the Ravens, they had the ball, I think on their own 38 or something. They don't go for it on fourth down. They punt. It gives the Josh Allen the ball. A lot of people saying they should have gone for it. But if they, if they, if they go for it and don't get it. Bills are already in field goal range. What do you do right there.
Drew Franklin
That's a tough spot. Field position, because normally you said it. Give Josh Allen the ball. No. Give Lamar Jackson the ball. No. Give Pat Mahomes the ball.
Matt Jones
No.
Drew Franklin
Those are the three where you would go for it. But that spot on the field, it's so tough. I think they had to do the right thing.
Matt Jones
Whatever they do, you're going to argue the other. If it doesn't work, I think you punt right there. Just because they're already in field position and you don't want to give Matt Prater.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
A change. The last Thing you want to do is put the ball Matt Prater's foot. What about Lamar gets in a fight with the fan? On a previous version of this podcast, Billy, you argued that it was Lamar's fault, which I thought was an odd argument.
Billy
I just say you can't be doing that, Lamar. It's usually the second guy that gets caught as well. I wonder if there'll be any. Something from the league.
Matt Jones
But he hit him. The fan reached.
Billy
Say it was a little aggressive from the fan. Yes.
Matt Jones
A little.
Billy
Yes.
Matt Jones
I think there's a little more than a little. Here's what I will say. This podcast is going to go up. You're probably listening to it on Monday morning, Monday afternoon. The Internet already knows who this guy is. Not that they already know who he is. They know where he works. They know his social media history. They know his girlfriend. He made a mistake. That's probably going to last with him. He's lucky the game was such a good game where he would be the only story of the day.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah, he loves that ending. I do want to add with Billy here for our listeners. Of the four of us in this room, Billy would be the most likely to push that fan back.
Billy
Oh, come on.
Drew Franklin
You don't think you would shove. If he shoved your teammate's head and then shoved your head, you wouldn't give him a little bit of a little push back?
Matt Jones
I think you would. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
It's just I'm all in for Lamar. I would have been fine with whatever he did. You can't go up into the stands if you're a player, but if the, if the, if the fan comes to you, then you get to respond. He hit his teammate.
Drew Franklin
He could have hit all the teammates. Yeah.
Matt Jones
He didn't act like it was, you know, it wasn't an accident. He hit two different guys. And what in the world did that guy think he was doing? First of all, why do you punch people with helmets on? I've never understood it. I've never understood you hit somebody with a helmet on, it's not going to hurt them. Secondly, they will kill you. Can you imagine voluntarily hitting Lamar Jackson?
Drew Franklin
Bill's mafia, right? Ran a little hot tonight. They. They threw a drink at Derrick Henry when he ran into the end zone. We got this kid shoving DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar shoving them in the head, kind of making their neck pop back a little bit. It was no easy shove. We like you, Bill's Mafia. Let's just. Let's just Reel it in. Let's stay in there.
Matt Jones
Not likable. Maybe we think we like them, but then if we actually see what they do, it's a little bit different.
Drew Franklin
Well, I know who really likes him. The, the Phillies woman. She's. She's glad that, that, that, that, that's gone. Clint, cleanse her off the timeline because that's all I saw until the end of the. She had a rough week until the NFL took over her social media.
Matt Jones
Well, it's crazy because this was such an impressive performance by Baltimore, but now Buffalo gets the win and that's a huge win for playoff seating down the road. There might be a time in January where the AFC Championship game is played in Buffalo instead of Baltimore because of just that fumble by Derek Henry tonight.
Drew Franklin
I don't think it's a might. It's crazy to say this about a week one game, but I think when we get to the AFC championship, we're going to look back at how this game unfolded and they're going to be in a different city because of it.
Matt Jones
I do have to also note Chris Collinsworth. Lot of grunting tonight.
Drew Franklin
Big, big grunt.
Matt Jones
Oh my. What? Sounds like didn't notice. I'm just saying the man grunts now. Probably the second biggest game of the day. Steelers Jets. Aaron Rodgers, who I do not like, but I have to acknowledge he had some of the old magic today. Four touchdown passes, moving around. Not great, but good enough. He and DK Metcalf looked to be a pretty formidable weapon. I know it's the jets, but his even last year jets had pretty good defense. Were you surprised to see. Speaking of an unk. Yeah, you know, there's an unvaccinated un. Were you surprised to see him do so?
Drew Franklin
This is the unc that post his Facebook opinions. Everybody's got an idea.
Matt Jones
Definitely.
Drew Franklin
I watched this whole game. I'm embarrassed by how much I enjoy this game. I want to remind you I ranked the Steelers 32nd in watchability. I even said nothing will make me watch the Steelers. I don't want to see this crap. This game was pretty awesome. I mean, he looks great. Justin Fields look great. The jets went up big, looking like they're going to give it to Rogers. The jets might have some of the fields and then he scores two touchdowns and 50 seconds to come back. Walking off the field, he's doing the Hogan ear thing like daring them to yell at him as they're taunting. I can't believe how into the Steelers jets game I was. Lived up to the billing.
Matt Jones
Such a Jets Thing to do to turn that ball over. Cause you know it's going to get lost in all this. That Justin Fields played really well. Justin Fields look great. That's the best. Is a. You know, as a former Bears quarter quarterback, I'm happy for him. I always like Justin Fields. But it'll get lost because they won. They won the game. And the jets, of course, missed a kick. We'll talk more about kickers as they go. But back to Aaron Rodgers for a second. He was asked after the game, what did you think about beating Aaron Glenn? And his quote was, I'm happy to beat everyone associated with the Jets. Who is more petty, him or Bill Belichick?
Drew Franklin
Bill not letting the Patriots in. Still pretty high, but this is pretty petty. I knew it was a bad breakup, but you're only there a year. Whatever, man. It's the Jets. Just move on with your life.
Matt Jones
No, you're Aaron Rodgers.
Drew Franklin
Who care? People will forget you, even with the Jets. But no call out everybody, everybody. I mean, the catering training, doctors, physicians.
Matt Jones
Did, he said, even people that work.
Drew Franklin
In the year associated with the Jets. I'm glad you lost. Janitors, parking attendants. He called them all out.
Matt Jones
Stick those hot dogs up your nose. You. You are the worst. Who. That is a level of pettiness I do have to respect. Even though I do not like Aaron Rodgers one bit. I've always kind of liked the Steelers. I hate seeing him on the team. I was pulling for the jets heavily, but he wins. Is he going to be. Is this a one week thing or is it all you?
Drew Franklin
He looked really good. What's crazy, the Steelers line didn't even look very good. He was kind of made some impressive plays under pressure, but he's still just dropping it, right? He really is one of the best to ever do it. As much as we don't like him. I mean, some of the throws he's making at his age.
Matt Jones
Is he 40? Is that right?
Billy
41.
Drew Franklin
41, yeah. I gotta hand it to him. I'm gonna get my jokes off all season long. But four touchdowns, no interceptions in your reunion game in New York, that's. He's allowed to talk his talk about.
Matt Jones
That hit by Jalen Ramsey at the end to basically seal the game. I mean, if he doesn't. That was a huge play. I mean, if the guy catches that, they keep going. They have a chance to get in a range to do another field goal and then just. That was a pop. It was clean.
Drew Franklin
It was. He was on fire all game. He got into it with Garrett Wilson earlier had some big hits. He'll be a big addition for them, too. Another guy that's got a little age on him that has played well in week one for that team.
Matt Jones
Two very important things about that game. First of all, you know you and I are good friends. There's not very many times we can name drop people, but we can name drop Ian Eagle. Yeah, Drew, Drew and I and Ian Eagle, we go way back. Tennis Channel days, right? Ian Eagle got, he can't, he can't stand up next to J.J. wadding.
Drew Franklin
No, that was unfair.
Matt Jones
And I don't even, I don't even know if I was standing. I hope he wasn't laying down. I hope he was in a chair, but that was not fair. The picture of the two of them side by side. Somebody did iron dirty. A producer like you, Billy, has to say to iron, let's not stand next to each other like this or why.
Drew Franklin
Let's sit in these two chairs we have right here. Why don't we, why don't we sit down?
Matt Jones
Why did J.J. watt have to stand up?
Drew Franklin
It's like they put a stool out for Ian eagle, but then J.J. watts stood on it next to Iron. Like, it doesn't even look proportional.
Matt Jones
Iron looks like his kid Noah in that.
Drew Franklin
Another one. We know we're just dropping Eagles, we're dropping names.
Matt Jones
So I, I, I feel bad for you. That was not, that was not fair. That was not fair what they did to him. J.J. white, by the way, thought that. I think that was the first game he's ever done good. I actually thought he did a really good job. Didn't you? Normally when they bring these dudes in that were high profile players, throw them in, I don't think they're ready. I actually thought he did a really good job.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Too many guys try to do it and they just need to go pick up golf. It's like, listen, not everybody can do both, but J.J. watt passed the test.
Matt Jones
What about the guy that got stuck on top of the American flag?
Drew Franklin
I have so many questions.
Matt Jones
So people don't know they did that thing, which they like to do, where you bring all the people in the crowd and you're holding the flag and then they tell you to wave it, and somehow he ended up in the middle of it, on top of it. How do you think that happened?
Drew Franklin
My first guess, I'm being serious, was, was he rolled up in it from the last time they used. Like, if you think about them, I'm rolling it. How else would he get in the Middle, right.
Matt Jones
He's been there since last year because.
Drew Franklin
They'Re unraveling it and he just appears. The next thing you know, he's on all fours. He's on the 50, crawling across this thing. I can't think of another way he would get out there because he couldn't just crawl out there. Somebody catch him and stop him. Yeah, I think he was rolled up in it in the back of MetLife Stadium.
Matt Jones
Theories I thought I had. I didn't think that was what we've seen people be stuck under it before. Yeah, that happens. I've never seen anyone be on top of it.
Drew Franklin
There was a quarterback, Brandon Weeden, maybe.
Matt Jones
Wow. It's good.
Drew Franklin
Some quarterback got caught under it. And they were like, about to make their first start and they're caught up getting trampled in the flag. But never seen one on the. On the top.
Matt Jones
And then he was crawling.
Drew Franklin
Everybody's just waiting.
Matt Jones
He's desecrating the American flag. I mean, literally. He's literally. Think about what's the worst thing you could do the American flag? Crawl on it in the middle of the national anthem.
Drew Franklin
But everyone has to kind of stop and watch him crawl on it. Cause what's the other solution? Do you like. Do you, like, parachute him up in the air and get him off of it? I don't know. You just got to sit and wait for him to crawl.
Billy
You're right, Drew. 2012 NFL season opener for rookie quarterback Brandon Whedon gets caught underneath the flag.
Matt Jones
What a memory.
Drew Franklin
He was like, it wasn't kind of under it. It was like, well, we might have to go to the backup.
Matt Jones
That is an amazing memory to be able to recall which quarterback got stuck under the flag.
Drew Franklin
2012, Big Brandon Wheaton. Guy played for half the NFL.
Matt Jones
Chris Boswell, the kicker for the Steelers, kicks 60 yards like it's nothing. They used to break into the news when guys made 60 yarders and now dudes just boom. It's like it's nothing. What? Ha. What's the difference? It feels like of all the positions, kicking should be the one that the actual act has not changed that much.
Drew Franklin
Something's changed. We need explanation. I don't know. We got the 71 yarder in preseason, but that same night in preseason didn't get attention. A guy made like a 58 yarder, but it. It was still going up. Still.
Matt Jones
Is it torque?
Drew Franklin
I mean, but you're right. The ball hasn't changed.
Matt Jones
Yards of the yards. Feet are feet.
Drew Franklin
Feet are feet.
Matt Jones
These dudes are not big. Like, I mean, Boswell. It's not like Boswell's been working out. Why do they kick it so much farther? I don't get it. He hit 60. That could have been a good. From another six or seven yards, easy.
Drew Franklin
Should we launch our first Cover Zero investigation?
Matt Jones
I would like to know what, How. You cannot just say that it's. They've gotten better because the act of what it takes to kick, nothing has changed. I mean, once the one guy just kicks straight on right for a long time and then they go, oh, well, let's kick it like a soccer ball. And that's been the only revolution. Ray Dempsey had a club foot. It's the only thing I know about him for a long time. You could have said Dipsey and I would just go club foot. What is a club foot, by the way? Is it like.
Drew Franklin
It's a square shaped foot?
Matt Jones
Yeah. So he has no toes. Yeah. I don't know.
Drew Franklin
We'll have to look into that during our investigation.
Matt Jones
Yeah, we'll look into that.
Drew Franklin
Also, Chris Boswell has been in the league a long time. Like, it's not like some rookie that young kid made in the lab that grew up trying something new. It's like just suddenly flipped a switch and it's like, I'll kick from back there.
Matt Jones
Every week I'm going to try to wear some piece of clothing that gives a shout out to a team. Now, the Ravens would have been my team of the week, but we were already down here getting ready for the show, so I didn't have Ravens gear on, so I'm wearing a Packers shirt. Now, I'm a Bears fan, so this is in some ways like heresy. But you have to acknowledge for me, until the Ravens game, the packers were the team of the day. Just an absolute annihilation of the Lions. Game was really never close. Micah Parsons gets his first career sack. Didn't even have a tackle for most of the game, but then got a sack. Place goes crazy. Are they your favorites now in the nfc or do you still have the Eagles?
Drew Franklin
Well, I actually had the Lions, so today was pretty easy to change my pick.
Matt Jones
I think you probably need to do that.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Parsons a little limited. They didn't play him a full game, but he was so disruptive. Like, you can't just look at the box on him. There was another sack that he created. There was an interception he created by getting pressure. He finally got the sack with like a superhuman effort in the fourth quarter chasing down golf after just running through one of the better linemen in the nfc. It's not fair that they landed him because Jordan Love looked good. I mean, it's.
Matt Jones
Jordan Love looks really good. I mean, he was a dark horse for me for mvp. We talked about that on our first show. And I think if you had MVP today, after week one, Lamar would win, but Jordan Love would probably come in second. I mean, he looked great.
Drew Franklin
And just to add that, because the packers, they were already an NFC contender, there's a little question about Love's thumb. All that's good. He looked good today. But then when you add Parsons the way they did, it's almost. You just throw your hands up like this. Fair.
Matt Jones
He didn't play all that many plays. And they still.
Drew Franklin
You could still just see it. You could see what he's going to do.
Matt Jones
You know, Ted, Teddy Brusky. Who. A little backstory. You know, when I work at ESPN and I do the Sunday morning NFL show, and back before COVID they would fly us up there every week. So every week I would have to fly to Bristol, Connecticut for this show. And when the gate, when my show was over, everybody'd go into this big. The war room, and you'd watch games together. It was quite a scene, right? It was like Rex Ryan, Randy Moss. Back then, it was Jeff Saturday, Chris Berman, Tom Jackson. Like all these people.
Drew Franklin
Maybe little Rex Ryan.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I said Rex Ryan.
Drew Franklin
Oh, you said Rex.
Matt Jones
All those people were there. And then you'd also have, like, Dan Orlofsky was my co host at the time. Anyway, one of those guys was Teddy Bruski. Teddy Bruski was good friends with Dan, and he would always come up and I'd go, hey, Teddy. And he'd look at me and he'd go, hey. That was a big connection. I thought we had acknowledgement.
Drew Franklin
Hey, guys.
Matt Jones
We were hey, guys. Right? The conversation never went beyond that, but we were, hey, guys. So I've always rooted for Teddy Brusk.
Drew Franklin
Because of that bond.
Matt Jones
Yeah, because we shared. I used to share omelets with Mac Brown during breakfast, and I would share haze.
Drew Franklin
Mac Brown gets egg white omelette, right?
Matt Jones
No, no, he's. He's full omelette.
Drew Franklin
Load it up.
Matt Jones
Loaded up. And I shared haze with Teddy Bruski. So I always root for Teddy Bruski. But then today, Teddy Bruski said that he was worried that Micah Parsons might ruin Green Bay. Said, literally, he might bring Dallas into the Green Bay locker room and ruin the team. Is that going to go down as the worst prediction of 2025 by my man? Hey, Teddy.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I hate to ruin this. This lifelong friendship you have by going against your boy here, your. Hey, guy.
Matt Jones
Hey.
Drew Franklin
But, I mean, no, I don't. I don't think. I don't think it's going to ruin anything. They all seem so excited. I was watching the post game interview. He did it with love. They already look like their best friends. Crowds going crazy. Micah calls Lambeau one of one, and packers fans are the best. It's. It's already off to a great start. Now, maybe Bruce, he means Michael, start podcasting and say things he shouldn't or, you know, but I don't think that's going to be the case.
Matt Jones
I sort of hoped in my relationship with Teddy Bruski we would move on to a second step. Never really happened. Two years we were there together, never got past, hey. One time I was like, how are you? And he just, oh, whoa, man.
Drew Franklin
Whoa.
Matt Jones
Back up.
Billy
Keep on walking.
Drew Franklin
Whoa.
Matt Jones
Dude, our relationship is not like that. I need my personal space.
Drew Franklin
You know, it's small, but when you look at the TV and he's there with all those guys, one of them has said hey to you and the others.
Matt Jones
Yeah. I don't think Rex Ryan ever spoke to me. I don't think Randy Boss did. Chris Berman, Tom J. I mean, they didn't. Like, I didn't go up to them. You know, My only real riff was with Field Yates because he told me to get up out of his chair, and I'm like, of all the people in here, Field Yates, you are not get out of my chair worthy. He since apologized to me about that.
Drew Franklin
Did you name drop Brusky to him?
Matt Jones
My. Hey, friend over there.
Drew Franklin
Don't make me go get him. I'll say hey to him right now.
Billy
Field has got some nice hair now.
Matt Jones
Who?
Billy
Field Yates. Have you seen his hair?
Matt Jones
No. What does he have?
Billy
Looks pretty good.
Matt Jones
What does that mean?
Billy
A little slicked back hair, a little longer. He's letting it go.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Oh, speaking of that, one time I.
Matt Jones
Did confront him on air about it, and he was like, I didn't tell you to get up. I said, yes, you did. You literally looked at me and said, that is my chair. And I didn't see any picture that said Field Yates on it.
Drew Franklin
Speaking of good hair, if I may ask, you got to see Warren Sharp's mustache that we talked about earlier in the episode one.
Matt Jones
I mean, at espn. He was not there that day.
Drew Franklin
No, I'm saying. But you just. Last week, you all see Warren Sharp's mustache for the first time. Very bushy, great mustache. Huh.
Matt Jones
Very bushy. That's what I look for. Foreign. I'm Marcus Grant.
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Matt Jones
Dolphins, Colts. Danny Dobbs. Before we get to the Dolphins being bad, how about a resurrection of Daniel Jones? Let me give you a stat that was given to me by our producer, Billy. The Colts scored on every drive. Daniel Jones scored on every drive in the game. Do you know he's the first touch quarterback this century to score on every drive? As a matter of fact, Drew Franklin, he has scored on every drive this season.
Drew Franklin
Undefeated.
Matt Jones
Did you ever think that Daniel Jones would have that level of success? Could he have resurrected his career? Allah. Let's say Baker Mayfield. Second stop is Danny Jones.
Drew Franklin
I'm raising my hand. I know it's a podcast. No one can see me, my hands raised. I was very wrong about Daniel Jones. I've gotten off my Daniel Jones jokes. I've made fun of the Colts. I think it's hilarious that they even ended up with Daniel Jones as their starting quarterback. I got to shut up.
Matt Jones
They look pretty awesome.
Drew Franklin
I mean, yes, the Dolphins suck, but I mean, United. Manning. Jones.
Matt Jones
Unit's Manning. Luck. Dimes.
Drew Franklin
Luck. Yeah. Harbaugh.
Matt Jones
There he is.
Drew Franklin
I'm putting him above Luck and Harbaugh.
Matt Jones
I've always had a soft spot for Daniel Jones for two reasons. One, he went to Duke. I went to law school. Duke. I hate Duke, but I kind of like Duke football because it's pathetic. And the fact that he was pathetic and that was pathetic. Everybody was booing him. I liked him. Second, he had a bowl cut when he came to the NFL. I Used to have a bowl cut. People are not nice to people that have bowl cuts. So you have a bowl cut, you're a dork from Duke and your name is Daniel. Not even Danny. Daniel, I'm pulling for you. And now, maybe all these years later, it's finally coming to fruition.
Drew Franklin
Says a lot about the Giants, too. There really is something here. You mentioned his look. You know, a lot of guys picked where he is. They get the money, they have the glow up. Maybe they're not wearing chains, but they just look different. No, he looks like he's still just roaming the halls of Duke.
Matt Jones
By the way, the colts were, oh, 10 and one in open in opening games until this one, which is a crazy streak. Now, the bigger story, though, for most people is going to be the Dolphins, who were awful. Mike McDaniel looks like his mom didn't pick him up from school in time after must have forgot as she went to her second husband's house and left poor Mike standing on the curb. He did not seem to be happy. And then, I'll tell you, else didn't look happy. Tyreek Hill already complaining after. After he said, you know what? We're good in the off season. Tyreek's already. That's a disaster. Mike McDaniel, he's going to be the first. First guy fired, right?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I mean, I don't think they even scored till they're four minutes left in the game. They almost got completely shut out.
Matt Jones
And it was a half of a catch, though. The one. That was the game.
Drew Franklin
It was Tesla. Also, add just McDaniel was wearing these, like, really gaudy Miami gold rim sunglasses. I said on this show just last week that I kind of like him, but I'm watching him in Indy and his team's got zero points midway through the fourth quarter. And he's got these Miami sunglasses on. I thought, you know what? But it's not working.
Matt Jones
It's not working. You're not fa. You're not fooling anybody, man. It's okay. You can be a nerd. It's just. Now you're a nerd. That's not a good coach. I can't watch Tua play. Yes, I'm worried. It makes me not comfortable. I worry about him. And he took another hard hit today. I just. I don't like it. He needs to do what he needs to do. Who am I to tell somebody what to do? But, like, watching Tua play just pains me.
Drew Franklin
Me too. Big hit today. Threw some bad interceptions. Doesn't look like himself. You know, they got some. Some names on that offense. And to go to the Colts, who I thought, give me the worst team in the league. I mean, their defense is all right, but to not score any points till the final minutes, what an embarrassing effort by that group.
Matt Jones
Plus, they got Zach Wilson.
Drew Franklin
That's right.
Matt Jones
I mean, you know, the moms of Miami are out there. Like, they got. They. They got Zach Wilson ready to rock.
Drew Franklin
You got to play a little bit. And on Tyreek, I saw he was in. There was a video went viral. There was like a fan mocking him in the elevator after the game.
Matt Jones
It's just. It's not good.
Drew Franklin
It's just going to get worse.
Matt Jones
If anyone in Miami cared about their sports teams, it would be much worse. Lucky they're luckily they're in the city that doesn't care. West Coast 49ers Seahawks brought Purdy. You got brought Purdy. Looks like he loses the game with a terrible interception down the stretch and then ends up throwing an amazing pass to the backup tight end who scores his first touchdown after George Kittle goes out. We've talked a lot about the 49ers schedule and how it's so easy. I continue to believe they're going to go 14 and three and not even be good. You wait and see. This was the first step today, getting that victory in Seattle.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I was ready to celebrate the Sam Darnold era getting off.
Matt Jones
He wasn't great.
Drew Franklin
Even before that, Purdy looked bad. The intercept, he had a couple of them. But on that game winner, that play looked so dead. I mean, it looked like he had no chance. I even saw. We got to shout out NFL next gen stats. I don't know how you determine this, but.
Matt Jones
Wait a minute. This isn't just for the record, Billy. This is not this generation stats. This is the next generation stats.
Drew Franklin
Way, way beyond this one.
Matt Jones
Okay?
Drew Franklin
But it called it the least likely completion of the weekend. It did all kinds of math. That's way beyond me. And it said when the ball was released, he had a 14 chance of completing it. They determined Purdy was running. I'm not kidding. I saw this. Purdy was running. They know that purdy was running 15 miles an hour to his right. And then the. The. The tight end was like, had like half a foot of separation. And then they determined the velocity pressure. This is next gen, Matt. I'm current.
Matt Jones
I can't see. That's the problem.
Drew Franklin
I'm present gen.
Matt Jones
It's hard for me to fathom because it's like I'm in This generation.
Drew Franklin
But they did. There was all kinds of graphics and things that decided Purdy to ton just for the win was the toughest completion of the entire weekend, and it won the game.
Matt Jones
I'm very impressed that they. That they're able to. They're able to figure that out. Well, big win for the 49ers. Seahawks. Sam Darnold. The question was, is he more. What's the real Sam Darnold? Jet Sam Darnold, Kevin Stefanski. Sam Darnold. I think we're leaning more towards Jets Sam Darnold. Right.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. It would have been a nice wind. It's a good spot to get a win over the 49ers.
Matt Jones
I'm sorry.
Drew Franklin
But not. Not a great statistic day. I mean, he was fine.
Matt Jones
Yeah, well, not really.
Drew Franklin
It was a Sam Darnold day.
Matt Jones
It was Sam Donald lose it, but he didn't do anything. This is what Sam Darnold gets.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I don't think he had any turnovers. He was just there. He just showed up.
Matt Jones
Is there a fate worse for humanity than having to be a Cleveland Browns fan? I mean, seriously, I feel you look at all sports and you say, what team would it be the worst to be a fan of? Okay. I think in professional sports, it's the Cleveland Browns.
Billy
Who would be worse was the Lions for a while.
Matt Jones
Not anymore.
Drew Franklin
You're back.
Matt Jones
You have once. Once Dan Campbell put the abyss up in the. That was. That was when it was over. Yeah. It's the worst.
Drew Franklin
They care a lot, though. Like the dog pound.
Matt Jones
I know. Which makes it worse. The hope that kills you. It's the fact that they care. I mean, that's what makes today. Their kicker is named Andre Smith. S, Z, M, Y, T. Way too many consonants. The consonant to vowel ratio suggests failure. Misses an extra point, misses an easy field goal. They lose. 17 16. They had an interception in their hands that they dropped. Goes through his hands. Bingles guy catches it. And the Bengals win the first game. What was it? Zach Taylor was like one in seven in his last four years in the first two games of the year. And they get this one and start the game.
Drew Franklin
The Bengals went right down the field and scored. And I thought, my goodness, Burrow is about to just light this game up. And then we get this low scoring game. Burrow didn't do much after that. And the Browns have a chance to win it and hit the Bengals with another early season loss that's going to affect their playoff push. But then they still end up pulling it off. It's an Ugly game, but something about Joe Flacco out there. I just.
Matt Jones
I like Joe Flacco. I think Flacco. I think in general, I thought he played fine. He had guys drop passes. He had drops. Yes. Your guy.
Drew Franklin
Oh, yeah, that's. That's a big story in Cleveland right now.
Matt Jones
What?
Drew Franklin
In Joku. In Joku. I didn't get my touchdown. But even bigger, he's not even like the starting the tight end anymore. The Harold Fannin Jr. Is a rookie from Bowling Green and he got like all of the targets.
Matt Jones
I just want to. I want to go for the record in our game of pick who's going to score a touchdown. Drew could have picked any player in the NFL and you picked a player who didn't even start.
Drew Franklin
Well, he started, but this Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green got like eight targets. Even Browns fans are like, is in Joku. Is he. Is he done?
Matt Jones
I like how you call him. Harold Fanning Jr. From Bowling Green. Well, I mean, really, have you heard of that guy? That's what I want to call him for the rest of the year. Harold Fanning Jr. From Bowling Green. I have not. No, no.
Drew Franklin
But I think that's the story. Like, he was like money for the Browns and Flacco was going to him all day like that. That was one of the bigger things for the Browns is, who the hell is this guy? But he got most of the targets on offense.
Matt Jones
Well, Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green, they did not get the win, but hopefully he was able to be one of the groomsmen for what I think was the biggest event of the day, which was the pregame wedding in Cleveland. Two Cleveland fans who call themselves the Brown Spider and first lady, they got married in the parking lot of a of the Browns Bengals game. Very romantic. The women dressed as cheerleaders. The men dressed as, like football players, slash bowling league participants. If you looked at the shirts they were wearing, for some reason the preacher was dressed as Batman, which didn't really fit the theme, but he was dressed as Batman. Did you see. And there were a lot of people there. Did you see the wedding?
Drew Franklin
I did.
Matt Jones
I love it.
Drew Franklin
I love a good NFL wedding. I've attended one. I was actually a witness to a Bill's wedding one time outside a stadium. And it was incredible.
Matt Jones
Was it the wedding or the engagement?
Drew Franklin
The wedding, really. It was Monday night Football. Bills at Titans. Several hours before the game, I go on a little walk, get a little coffee. We see a wedding on the bridge.
Matt Jones
Like, wait a minute. So the Bills fans got Married in Nashville at a road game on the.
Drew Franklin
Bridge with Titan Stadium behind them. Monday Night Football, we're walking by and I'm getting video and then they. I'm wearing a Titan shirt. I step in, I get my pictures with them. I'm in like the official family photo. But it was incredible.
Matt Jones
More.
Drew Franklin
I love the crazy NFL fans that do this because, you know, some people. I want the flowers in the chapel and I want it to be perfect. No, give me the parking lot one Browns. Bingo.
Matt Jones
Not brown Spider.
Drew Franklin
Or in my case, I love the NFL weddings.
Matt Jones
Brown spider and first lady have their own. I mean, can you imagine what their wedding nights like? Although the problem is now it's sad.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I mean, they lost, you know, stupid Andre Smith misses the kick. And now Brown Spiders like, this just isn't working for.
Drew Franklin
They're going to remember that forever.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So where do you think they honeymoon?
Drew Franklin
The dog pound? That was it.
Matt Jones
Akron?
Drew Franklin
Toledo.
Matt Jones
Well, poor.
Drew Franklin
Good for them, though. Congratulations.
Matt Jones
You know, it's the kind of game the Bengals have not won over the years. Don't play particularly well. Everything, you know, it's not all clicking and they still get a win. Is that a good sign for Cincinnati? Normally this would have been a loss like in the last 20 years of Bengals fans.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I think the people that are saddest about this are Bengals fantasy owners with the chase. They already have like 20 yards. Higgins didn't do much. Burrow didn't light it up. This offense we think is one of the best in the NFL. I don't think this. This will determine what they are, but that was a quiet game for all those guys.
Matt Jones
Defense played pretty well. Protection still awful though, for the Bengals. Like, I mean, they supposedly upgraded their offensive line. They were awful the. The protection the entire game, but they got the win. How many games is Cleveland win this year?
Drew Franklin
I still have a little more belief in Cleveland. I mean, they're not going to make the playoffs or anything, but they looked all right. I mean, what they did to that Bengals offense. And Flacco, we mentioned the drops. We now have Harold Fannin Jr. For Bowling Green. I say the. I'll give the Browns four or five wins.
Matt Jones
All right. I'm giving you a job. Billy, you have a job going into this week. If you're able to do this, you will get a reward from me.
Drew Franklin
Oh, okay.
Matt Jones
And Mario, can you can help. Billy, your job is to see if you can get Brown Spider and first lady on our show. That'd be great.
Billy
All right. Right after Tate Ratledge.
Matt Jones
No no. Well, first of all, you're already supposed to. We were already going for Tate Rattled. Where is he?
Drew Franklin
Is he here?
Matt Jones
If we could get both. Well, Tate Ratledge lost. This probably isn't the week to ask him. Matter of fact, scratch Tate Ratledge. Okay, I want brown sweaters. I want browns. Well, we can't have them either. They lost. But Brown Spider and First lady, presumably, they're on their honeymoon, so they might have to, like, interrupt it. But when we do the show, net this Wednesday, if you can get me Brown Spider and First Lady, I'll get you a Tate Ratledge jersey.
Drew Franklin
Oh, wow.
Matt Jones
Wow. Okay.
Drew Franklin
Okay. This is a big.
Billy
I'm on it.
Matt Jones
Two things will happen. First of all, no one else is going to request them. Secondly, no one's bought a Tate Rattledge jersey. So these are going to be two huge mugs moments. Do you think you can do it?
Billy
Yeah, I'm going to reach out to the dog pound. I'm sure somebody's got their contact info.
Matt Jones
So, yeah, if you can help at Billy R. Sports on Twitter, we would like to. I'm not kidding. I would love to talk to them. I think it would be good.
Drew Franklin
I think they'd love to talk to us.
Matt Jones
I think they would, too. I'm Marcus Grant.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Not even first play before the first.
Drew Franklin
Play of the game.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
What a way to kick off the NFL season with one of these stars of the Eagles defense getting ejected. But. But we just. We can't be in a society where we accept spitting people's faces. He had to go, we can't do that.
Matt Jones
Why is it that we think spitting is worse than punching? Because we do. Like, people fight all the time, and it might be dumb, but, like, we don't. We don't get furious at them. But spitting, it's a level of disrespect. But I can't go, like, to the hospital with a spit. I could go to the hospital with a punch, but I'd. Most people myself include would rather be punched than spitted or spat punch.
Drew Franklin
Your.
Matt Jones
It's a.
Drew Franklin
It's not respectful, but, like, we're engaged. It's combat. Spinning.
Matt Jones
You are beneath combat.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. You're beneath me. You are scum. Is my DNA.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I mean, there's just a lot to it.
Matt Jones
DNA is part of it. Okay. It is just probably DNA on the punch, too, though.
Drew Franklin
I'm with. I'm aware. It's just. It's one of the lowest things you can do to someone, especially directly in the face.
Matt Jones
Yeah, in the face.
Drew Franklin
So he had to go.
Matt Jones
Had. Well, yeah, he did have to go. Would you suspend him for another game if you were in the NFL? Is his spit worth two games?
Drew Franklin
I don't know about that. Prime time, Thursday Night Football, week one. You're jacked up to play. Hit somebody your first game and you're sitting out and people are talking about you for the whole. I think that's enough. I think he learned his lesson. However, if he does it again, we're looking at a major suspension.
Matt Jones
All right. And then Friday night, they go to Brazil. Chiefs lose to the Chargers. Justin Herbert played great. Is he. Is this the year he rises to the next level? This was a game. Speaking of teams that usually lost, Chargers have lost a version of this game 30 times in the last decade. They win it this time. Impressive.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I actually. I had the Chargers money line. I'm confident in Them. It was the only bet I won all weekend. Got murdered today, but I wasn't that shocked that they pulled it off. I don't know the chance Chiefs aren't going to be bad, but there's gradually sliding as the Chargers are coming up, and I think they're knocking on the door.
Matt Jones
You lose that game start owing to, you know, historically, the super bowl loser has had a bad year the next year, and we think the Chiefs are immune from that.
Drew Franklin
Only winless team in the AFC West.
Matt Jones
Just worth noting, historically, the only one. Historically, that's been a tough spot. I think they'll be all right, but I think it's worth Xavier Worthy out. We don't know what his status will be outside the game. Biggest story, I think, was Makai Becton. He had to miss the game for the Chargers because he was in the emergency room with what? Bad beans and rice.
Billy
The Instagram caption that he posted said, don't eat the beans and rice in Brazil from a hospital bed.
Matt Jones
Huh.
Drew Franklin
Seems like those. They should be the two safest things to eat, though, beans and rice.
Matt Jones
First of all, if I go to Brazil, that's what I want, is beans and rice. I feel like that. I bet the spices are good.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I don't know what Makai may not want to bank. Maybe it's him. Maybe his stomach doesn't. It's just not a very tough stomach.
Drew Franklin
This is another example of what a lot of players bring up, though, with traveling these games is the food. And now we've got a guy at least claiming that beans and rice have put him in the hospital. That seems like the simplest thing that you couldn't mess up and get sick on, though. I don't know that I believe his beans and rice.
Matt Jones
I'm going on record as saying he, like, probably took tequila shots, might have found something, and he was like, oh, no, the beans and rice.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'll blame the beans and rice. Definitely not the worm and the tequila or anything else.
Billy
I have found Brown Spider's Twitter account that has 27,000 followers.
Matt Jones
No way. He does not have 27,000.
Billy
You can also RSVP for his wedding on his Twitter account.
Matt Jones
So he must be like a local celebrity.
Billy
Oh, yeah, yeah, he's.
Matt Jones
So when you RSVP on the Twitter account, does it give you an email address?
Billy
Let me see.
Matt Jones
You know what? Actually, hang on. The NFL has said to us, we can help you get guests. And I think that they've met, like, you know, big guess. George Seifert, Matt Prater. Matt Prater. I don't want Matt Prater. Actually, I do want Matt Prater. But. But Brown Spider. Maybe they can help us.
Billy
Hopefully you have to be verified to DM people that don't follow you. So hopefully he follows me back.
Drew Franklin
Oh.
Billy
Because I won't pay for Twitter.
Matt Jones
Okay. But usually celebrities already get it. You didn't get it.
Billy
No, I didn't.
Matt Jones
Well, they should have. Not the Billy. Well, you're going to be able to do this. Billy and I. Hopefully our listeners will help you. I want to see Wednesday brown Spider and hopefully with first lady. She may be harder to get, but I think we can get brown Spider.
Billy
We'll break into the honeymoon, see if they can join us.
Matt Jones
We definitely should call the NFL and say like what's the first guest you want? Found Spider in first place with the.
Drew Franklin
Best duo in the league.
Matt Jones
All right, so those are the big games. Let's go to some of the smaller games. I picked the upset of the week Raiders Patriots. I'm not going to say I called it on Wednesday show but I did call it on Wednesday show. But what was. What was interesting to me is it didn't look like an upset. Raiders dominated that game. Only won 20 to 10. But really they were in control the whole time.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I got your Ashton Genti first td.
Matt Jones
That was a good run too.
Drew Franklin
It was good hard. Boys, welcome to the league. What was about to say A lot got excited. Oh variable. Speaking of running the Pats not much identity there. On off they had like 60 yards rushing. Didn't look good at all. I thought they were going to take a little bit of a step forward this year.
Matt Jones
Drake may not quite the second coming that everybody acts like only you know, didn't, didn't. Didn't quite do it for I mean lose at home by 10 to the Raiders when you have sightset on a playoff bid. I think that's. It was a poor performance by Drake.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And Max Drake that's had a bad year, I might add.
Drew Franklin
Max Crosby was let him know about it too. There was a moment where he was like taunting the whole sideline. He hit him with the little crybaby. So yeah, Vegas showed up with some attitude and really rattled him.
Matt Jones
I like that. I like. I think a Vegas team that talks trash is what the league needs. Needs. Right. Brock Bowers got hurt during the game. He's a. He's a stud. Was playing well before he did it. He had a great day. So hopefully he'll be all right. Right. Cause he's a. He's. He's a freakish talent.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Unreal game for him. Didn't get in the end zone, but put up a bunch of yards with a lot of catches. Still getting dinged up.
Matt Jones
Always like Geno, too.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, Gino had a lot of yards.
Matt Jones
You mentioned rumbling, bumbling, stumbling. That comes from Chris Berman. Back to talking for a second about going to ESPN and watching the game. Chris Berman was there, and Chris Berman talks in private like he talks on television.
Drew Franklin
Oh, that's awesome.
Matt Jones
No, I'm not kidding. When he's watching the game, you know, there's like 60 people in his room. He comments as if he was on tv.
Drew Franklin
Like your teach sitting next to him.
Matt Jones
So, like, if Ashton Genti was doing that run, he would sit there going, rumbling, bumbling, stumbling. It's a touchdown with the Raiders. What? No. What? What? What? He does that. I'm not even kidding with you. He just does that in his regular conversation.
Drew Franklin
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. I would love to just sit and watch a game with him.
Matt Jones
Tick. And then, you know, he'll make some nickname during the whole thing, but he does that. And you're sitting there and it's almost freaky. But what's also interesting is the other people are so used to it, they don't even acknowledge it. Just Chris going dead.
Drew Franklin
He's got an opportunity. You know, a lot of people, they're on Twitch and all the streaming. He should just be on his couch just making noises. I'd watch Red Zone on one tv. Chris Berman on his couch, just tick, tick, tick, tick, burp.
Matt Jones
Be home. Bly Levin.
Drew Franklin
Bill Belichick, you would have been proud of the circle in the wagons tonight on Sunday Night Football, he would have.
Matt Jones
Bill Belichick announced after the Carolina game on Saturday that the. The Patriots are not invited to Carolina practices or games because he's not allowed in the Patriots facility, which I again, speaking of pettiness, love it.
Drew Franklin
I'm so tired of Bill. But also, give me more. Bill. This is. This is so stupid. It's not even the same thing. You're not allowed to building because you don't work there anymore and you got fired. They're coming to your building to recruit your college athletes.
Matt Jones
I love it.
Drew Franklin
Who would like to be seen by the Patriots? These are in no way the same situation.
Matt Jones
I love it. I think it's. I think it's the best form of pettiness you could possibly have. No. And I like the idea that he doesn't get invited. So they don't get invited. So even though it's not being fired. It would be like me going, yeah, you know what, Governor? The Kentucky governor. No, you can't come because I'm not allowed to come to your governor's mansion anytime I want.
Drew Franklin
I got fired from Sam Goody in high school. You know what? Y' all aren't allowed in my house. Don't come by.
Matt Jones
You got fired from Sam Goody?
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So, like, you can't get the CD from Sam Goody anymore?
Drew Franklin
No, no, no.
Matt Jones
That's unfortunate.
Drew Franklin
That was tough. Had a lot of tough.
Matt Jones
What'd you do?
Drew Franklin
Yeah, didn't you know?
Matt Jones
Did you steal?
Drew Franklin
Kinda. It was an organizational thing.
Matt Jones
What do you mean? You kind of stole. You either stole or you didn't.
Drew Franklin
It was part of. I was part of a bigger effort of stealing.
Matt Jones
Oh, it was a crime ring.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. It was unintentional.
Matt Jones
So we're actually now turning this into a rico.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Now I'm afraid of what I should say. No. I had a boss. Like, he'd be like, no, no. But he'd be like, great, Great job this week. You won the contest. Here's your PlayStation 2.
Matt Jones
That's awesome.
Drew Franklin
And we learned later that he was just taking it off the shelf and handing it to us. And there was no record of us winning this PlayStation 2. So they're like, Drew, do you have the PlayStation 2? I'm like, yeah, I sold the most DVD cleaners and like, yeah, well, you don't get a PlayStation 2 for that. So it was a lot of just.
Matt Jones
Wait a minute, Hang on.
Drew Franklin
This is.
Matt Jones
Now this is even crazy. So your boss was just taking things.
Drew Franklin
Off the shelves and rewarding us.
Matt Jones
There were content, like, who can sell.
Drew Franklin
The most of X? He was probably getting a perk on his end for all the selling stuff. So, like, Drew, you on April, get anything you want. I'm like, oh, and that, like, awesome. Congratulations.
Matt Jones
But why didn't they fire you for that?
Drew Franklin
Well, I said fired. It was more of just a mutual world. I wanted. Wherever this is going, I want nothing to do with it.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, he was just.
Matt Jones
So he was just taking things off the shelf and handing them to the employees.
Drew Franklin
Like, congrats, you had a great day today.
Matt Jones
I love it.
Drew Franklin
Here's.
Matt Jones
He sounds like the best boss I've ever heard.
Drew Franklin
And we thought this was like, a company policy. Like, you get rewarded because other people.
Matt Jones
Rationally, you would think that.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, like, sure, I want. Are we there yet too, on DVD tonight for working hard. Yeah, I'll take that home with me, boss. Thank you. I did put In a good four hour shift.
Matt Jones
You had the first one. You wanted to see how it ended.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, well, there were some organizational concerns.
Matt Jones
I didn't know that, but now I see why they ended up in bankruptcy. Saints and Cardinals. Kyler Murray, I like watching. He still runs around with the football in one hand. He's the only player I've ever seen do that. He holds the football like when I was a kid and I could show I could palm a basketball. And I was like, look at this.
Drew Franklin
He looks so tiny scrambling, doing that.
Matt Jones
When he runs around with this, with the ball. But. But I don't. Who cares? The only story about that game that matters is what were the Saints wearing?
Drew Franklin
I turned that game on and genuinely thought I had found like a random D2 college game with that Saints jersey. What it looked like looked like a. Like a high school generic jersey.
Matt Jones
That looked like. You're exactly right. That looked like a Southern HBCU uniform. That's exactly what it looked like.
Drew Franklin
I genuinely thought, what game did I just wait. I thought this was the Saints. And then I had to think, are these like color Rush? What is this? And then I wasn't even sure. Is there even a logo on it?
Matt Jones
What was the reason for it? Was it celebrated something?
Billy
Not sure.
Matt Jones
They did say. I did hear the announcers at one point go, this is their alternate jersey. I was like, alternate the what?
Drew Franklin
Where?
Matt Jones
Where anything? I mean, the. The monochrome pants to monochrome shirt look. It reminded me of what 70s baseball uniforms look like. You ever seen those? Like the old Pirates and White Sox uniforms.
Drew Franklin
It reminds me on Madden, the video game. If you create a team, they give you like a. A basic uniform that you can kind of add logos and stuff to. They just got the generic.
Matt Jones
I mean, the whole point of having alternate uniforms is to sell them. How many of those you think they're gonna sell after losing at home to the Cardinals? Can't be Min. I'm Marcus Grant.
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Lowest rated game of the day.
Drew Franklin
Oh, I tried to watch it. Not good.
Matt Jones
Not good.
Drew Franklin
Not good at all. Had a chance to win and it was a fitting drop there to not do anything.
Matt Jones
It's one of those games that when you're at a bar and there's like eight games off and there's one that they're like, why this isn't on any television. That was Cardinal. Saints today. Cardinals got the win Commanders Giants. Malik Neighbors already done with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson burns through receivers as quick as anybody on earth. Malik Neighbors was done.
Drew Franklin
They might be done with Russell Wilson. He didn't look too good either. But Neighbors looks like he wants on the first flight out of New York.
Matt Jones
To whatever team will take after the game, saying, do you commit to Russell Wilson for next week? No, it did not look good. You can't even get through week one. And he said, I mean, Jax, it's Jackson Dart time. Russell Wilson is. It's over for him already, right?
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Darts was one of the preseason darlings, one of the hot names right now. He's got a little bit of the swag. He can bring some life into your franchise that's been bad for so long. Give it to him. Nobody wants to see Russell Wilson.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I know, but. No, that's a good. Just theme for life.
Drew Franklin
Nobody wants Russell Wilson.
Matt Jones
Nobody wants to see Russell Wilson. Honestly, Marshall, anywhere. Do you. I mean, he's my.
Drew Franklin
He would be my third quarterback on that team. I go to Winston before him.
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah, and they won't let day. They're not letting Jackson Dart or James Winston speak to the media, which is. I mean, I guess in the NFL, everyone is always allowed to speak. The media. Except those two.
Drew Franklin
It's just open locker rooms, which.
Matt Jones
Which is interesting to me. You wouldn't let the backup speak, but it's clear Jackson Dart is starting next week. That's the shortest leash anyone's ever had. Didn't even get through a week.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, the cameras caught Neighbors yelling at pretty much anyone on the sideline that he could yell at. Couldn't tell what he was saying, but I can only assume he's yelling Give me Jackson Darter. I'm out of here.
Matt Jones
Well, it's understandable. Although even with all that, they had a pass right there to Wandell with a chance. I mean, Commanders didn't look great.
Drew Franklin
No, they have that. That rookie running back, Crosby.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
They call him Bill. That's what I was going to bring up. I just love that his name's Bill Jacori Crosky Merritt, I think is.
Matt Jones
Why do they call him Bill? I don't know.
Drew Franklin
But he. He had a big game today and I just. The fact that he's Bill, I think it's. There's a cartoon character that he looks.
Billy
Like he used to watch as a kid.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
So his name is Jacori Crosky Merritt. None of those names are close to.
Drew Franklin
Bill, which makes it awesome. He had a touchdown today. So Commanders fans are excited about that. That Bill got his touchdown.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Well, I can understand that you. Everybody likes a good Bill, but that's a weird. It's weird to have no names that are even close to it and take them. But the Commanders get the win. Panthers Jaguars was the game I oddly was kind of excited about to see Travis Hunter go both ways. He did. Had had a couple catches. I think there was a long weather delay.
Drew Franklin
That's what hurt this game. Yeah, I was into it till the delay that I kind of forgot to go back.
Matt Jones
I honestly forgot it happened until it was. Until it was over. I did look online, though, because I wanted to see. The good thing about the Jaguars is because they're boring on the field. They have always a weird cast of people off the field. Urban Meyer, of course, a couple years ago. Well, their owner, Khan, speaking of great mustaches, a little bit like Warren Sharp in the mustache. Did you see the speech he gave Liam Cohen after the game?
Drew Franklin
Oh, no, I did not.
Matt Jones
He gave Liam Cohen a speech and it said something like, today is the start of we win forever. Yeah, forever. Which I think is. That's confidence. Jaguars really have never won of any significance. And he's like, starting today, we win forever.
Drew Franklin
But if you're Liam Cohen, are you like, wait a minute, are you expecting that? Like undefeated forever? Hey, Cohen is undefeated one and O is a head coach. Big win for your boy, Liam.
Matt Jones
I said, I've said. I said all during the off season. I think they're going to be a surprise. I think they're going to make the playoffs. I think the combination of. Trevor Lawrence needs to do something. Liam is. Liam Cohen's a good coach. We saw it here at Kentucky Travis Hunter is going to be exciting. They got a good defense. Josh Hines Allen, you know, coming off the edge. I think the Jaguars are going to be good this year.
Drew Franklin
Yep. They're going to take that crappy division.
Matt Jones
And Bryce Young look like the Bryce Young. A little bit year before than this one. One game, but not a great performance.
Drew Franklin
Had a couple picks. I like seeing my guy Hunter Renfro get a couple catches. Did you see how he ended up on the Panthers? The story with his daughter?
Matt Jones
No. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
She was watching Bluey on his phone and the panthers called him 10 straight times to sign him and she kept declining it. So he almost did not become a Panther because his daughter kept hitting decline.
Matt Jones
I love it.
Drew Franklin
And then he gets to Carolina and I got a couple catches today.
Matt Jones
That's actually a really good story. I did not know that. Bucs, Falcons. So your guy, that's your team. Billy Amica Abuka. Is that right?
Billy
Yeah. Rookie from Ohio State.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Had a great game, including that catch at the end. That pass from Baker was amazing. The catch was terrific. The game was kind of back and forth. The Falcons had the ball I think 11 times inside the five yard line, 11 plays and then finally got in. But the Bucks won. You had to be happy.
Billy
Yeah, really dramatic. A lot of reviews late as well. Reviews took a while, but you know, Atlanta swept Tampa last year, so that was a big one.
Matt Jones
It was a nice win for Tampa. But I came away very impressed with Michael Pennix Jr. That's great.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
That stretch he did to score to the touchdown was one of the most athletic plays I've seen. I, that, that, that was a while to me.
Drew Franklin
He had a great game, had that stretch, had a couple other runs, 300 yards passing. It's a shame they couldn't get it done for him because he looks like he's going to be a second year now. It looks like it's going to be a good sophomore season for him.
Matt Jones
I still that division. Those teams all play each other seven times during the year.
Drew Franklin
They don't play anyone.
Matt Jones
They're all going to. I mean, I know the Bucks have won it four or five years in a row, but I think it's going to come down to the end. I don't, I don't make huge generalizations about one game in the NFC South. Titans and Broncos.
Drew Franklin
Oh, boy.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Talk to me about your Titans, how they looked. What do you think of Cam Ward's debut?
Drew Franklin
I did like some Cam. We couldn't catch the passes he was throwing. Ridley, who's supposed to be as his guy dropped two. I don't know if you saw, but they cut to Cam Ward's dad in the crowd and he leaves his seat and like walks over the aisle and puts his. He just lays on the rail. Like he's just so disappointed.
Matt Jones
Laid down the rail.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Even the Denver fans around him are like patting him on the back. Cam's dad was going through it. But my Titans, it's going to be a long year.
Matt Jones
They're bad.
Drew Franklin
They're so bad.
Matt Jones
Your coach is awful.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Why is he so.
Drew Franklin
Like last year, they were bad decisions.
Matt Jones
So poorly prepared. It seemed like for every game and it didn't look a whole lot better.
Drew Franklin
We had some clock mismanagement before the half. I love the Titans wearing Titans shirt right now. I couldn't wait for this game, guys. I got to admit, I fell asleep during my own team's game. I watched a lot of football today. I fell asleep.
Matt Jones
Fell asleep during your own team?
Drew Franklin
I fell asleep once today watching one game. It was my own team.
Matt Jones
Well, can I give you one thing that might make you feel better? Please. Denver was an 8 1/2 point favorite. Rookie quarterbacks starting in their first game were oh and 10 against the spread in the last 10 games. But Cam Ward covered by half of them. Here we go. Does that make you feel better? First player in 11 games as a rookie starting in his first game to cover. That's got to make you feel better.
Drew Franklin
I do have. It does make me feel better and I have faith in him. It's just the pieces around him. There's just. There's not much hope. Ridley, I thought was like the one thing we had going and he had two bad drops on some deep passes that could have been difference makers. But it's not lost on me. I ranked the Titans fifth in watchability and they put me to sleep today. In week one.
Matt Jones
People need to watch out for a Bo Nick slump. I know they won the game, but I mean, that was my Survivor League team. That should have been an easy game and it wasn't. And the Titans led for a significant part of the game. The Bo Knicks regression year is coming. The Drake May regression year is coming. I said both of those before the year. I stand by them now. Texans, Rams. Maybe the worst game of the day and I thought it was going to be good. Both those teams are interesting to me. The Rams won. It was 14 to 9. It was awful. I tried to watch it. I could not get it. I'd love to give you a review. All I can say is Sean McVeigh only wears under Armour shirts. But beyond that I have nothing to say about the game.
Drew Franklin
I'm all in on the Texans going backwards. C.J. shroud going backwards. So far so good on that. He threw a pick. Didn't have a great day. I'm with you. Wasn't a very entertaining game. At one point Puka Nakua was like bleeding from his eye. That was a little scary.
Matt Jones
That's what was. Did they say bleeding from his eye.
Drew Franklin
Made him look like a bad. To be honest but that was a big storyline.
Matt Jones
It looked like it was coming from inside his eye which is. I don't.
Drew Franklin
He seems fine.
Matt Jones
That's normal.
Drew Franklin
Walking it off. But to see someone like bleeding from.
Matt Jones
Their eye, it's a very football thing to do. You're bleeding from the eye walking off camera. It'll be all right.
Drew Franklin
That was honestly the big thing I remember is his eye bleeding and Matthew Stafford looking all right.
Matt Jones
What's your note from the game, Drew? I believe it was really crazy looking.
Drew Franklin
Like is it good? Do you need to go somewhere and get that checked out?
Matt Jones
Yes. Part of our pick. So we did the this week we did the Survivor League. I picked the Broncos one. You picked the commanders. You got it. And Billy took a little bit of a risk. Picked the Jaguars. Got it. All three of us moved to the second round and all none of us picking one of the best teams. So all three of us kind of, you know getting a. Getting a solid early start. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Good week. Was anyone even threatened at all? I know my commanders weren't so brought.
Matt Jones
Us were down a little bit early that you could have looked like it.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Trying to think what would have been the game where you were most likely to see people eliminated. Maybe. Maybe some people had the Dolphins against the Colts.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. It'd still be a weird thing to put your survival over Chargers maybe.
Matt Jones
Probably a lot of people had commanders and giants but they won pretty easily. I mean I'd say this would be a year where most people survived the first. First game. Would you agree there was no crazy. Probably the biggest upset I guess would be Colts, Dolphins. But how many people are going to pick the Dolphins in the first.
Drew Franklin
No, that was even like a one point spread. Even the upsets I think were all field goal spread. Chiefs, Chargers and Raiders. Patriots were probably the biggest upsets by point spread.
Matt Jones
Yeah. So we all moved to the second round and we'll on Wednesday pick our other ones. We also did our touchdown game. You pick Najoku who who didn't get a Lot of catches because of what? Harold Griffin from Bowling green.
Drew Franklin
Harold Griffin Jr. From bowling. Harold Griffin Jr. Fannin from bowling green.
Matt Jones
Harold Fannin Jr. From bowling green. So you got get zero points.
Drew Franklin
Zero.
Matt Jones
Did. Did Billy McCaffrey or not? Billy McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey.
Billy
He did not score.
Matt Jones
No, he did not. But you know who did score? Hurts. That would be Jalen Hurts twice, right? Yeah, but we just. You get only you get one a game. So I'm up now 100 after the I take an early league in the touchdown game.
Drew Franklin
I did my big anytime touchdown parlay at one o'. Clock. It didn't win. Otherwise I wouldn't be sitting here. But it's so fun. That's just. That's my favorite way to watch the game.
Matt Jones
Why is it so fun? You say that all the time.
Drew Franklin
I don't play fantasy. So like if another team's in the red zone, if I don't care about the team, I really stand up. Like is my guy in? Are we passing? Are we throwing it? Just in normal games I wouldn't care as much. I get dialed in when they're in a scoring position.
Matt Jones
So should I expect that next week you're picking Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green?
Drew Franklin
Actually I probably should. Probably should.
Matt Jones
Okay. Just keep picking Brown's Titans.
Drew Franklin
Well, here was my.
Matt Jones
That was one of the worst picks I've ever seen you had. You could have picked anyone in the league and you went with Harold Fanning Jr.
Drew Franklin
It's funny to say that they said Joku was the most bet prop bet of any players. So I think you're incorrect on that.
Matt Jones
Did he score?
Drew Franklin
Popular pick. He had four catches. But this fan and thing here was my logic though. I didn't think Flacco could see down the field being 50 years old. So I thought it was going to be tight ends all day, which it was. I just had the wrong tight end. So I was going with Flacco being an old man and just relying on my, my tight end there. But here comes Harold Fannin Jr. From Bowling Green.
Matt Jones
Well, all right. So Billy, remember your job. Brown spider.
Billy
Brown spider.
Matt Jones
And the first lady, if not second is Matt Prater. Okay, that's the order.
Billy
I'll get the NFL involved.
Drew Franklin
And if you can only get one of spider first lady, you can pair with Matt Prater. So if it's like first lady and Matt Prater, we'll figure it out.
Matt Jones
I think it would be good to interview Matt Prater and the first lady together. See what hijinks occur.
Drew Franklin
Just two of the three. Those three get two of the people.
Matt Jones
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Podcast: KSR’s NFL Cover Zero
Hosts: Matt Jones & Drew Franklin (with Billy and Mario)
Date: September 8, 2025
NFL Cover Zero kicks off its new season of Sunday night NFL recaps with an energetic look back at a wild Week 1. Matt Jones, Drew Franklin, and the crew break down every game, spotlighting upsets, big performances, unforgettable moments, and “peak NFL weirdness”—from dramatic comebacks to pregame weddings outside stadiums. Their signature blend of honest analysis, banter, and deep NFL fandom serves both die-hard fans and casual listeners.
Authentic, knowledgeable, and irreverently passionate. Hosts blend sharp football insight with self-deprecating humor, local color, and ongoing inside jokes (e.g., Drew’s obsession with obscure touchdown picks and Matt’s run-ins at ESPN). Player nicknames, "hey guy" stories, and playful NFL investigative “assignments” create a fun, conversational energy.
From last-second heroics and questionable fandom to deep dives on league trends and jersey critiques, NFL Cover Zero’s Week 1 episode sets the tone for an engaging season of NFL recaps. The blend of analysis, storytelling, and humor ensures fans get more than just box scores—they get the spirit, oddities, and subplots that make football “peak NFL.”