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Matt Jones
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Drew Franklin
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Drew Franklin
0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Foreign recap Matt Jones and Drew Franklin Here on a Sunday night the Chargers and Steelers are winding down on a Sunday night football game that hasn't been the most exciting game in the world, but nevertheless, you know what you can't have every every day can't be a Blast. There were some great ones today and Drew and I are to take care of it here. Drew, we had a big weekend. This is the seventh radio show I've done this weekend, if you count podcasts and radio and a lot of sports and, you know, some big wins for our teams. We like Kentucky and they got a big win over Florida, biggest win since 1950. So you and I come into this with a good mood.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, very excited about that. We had our basketball team win. I even thought earlier today, you know what? I haven't seen enough sports. I'm going to go watch UK volleyball. So I haven't even really seen my house in three days. But it's been a lot of fun watching our college team and then the good NFL slate.
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Drew Franklin
Today I watched some of that volleyball. I was with my friend Jason. We had a long conversation. I like to do this is what I think older people sometimes do. We have arguments about things that you could look up and just get the answer. So we were having a long argument about what was different about the libero, you know, the person that wears the different shirt. What were the rules that differed. And we were very like adamant about each other's position. And I said, well, if only there was a machine that you could put in the question and you could get the answer. And then when we did, I think the only thing it seems like the libero can. They can't spike it. That's it. Right.
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Matt Jones
They're considered the defender.
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Drew Franklin
So they're basically though wearing a shirt saying they're a second class citizen. This scarlet letter thing they have going on in volleyball, I'm officially, I'm against it, I have to tell you.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, they call them out, but they.
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Drew Franklin
Don'T get any special privileges. They have a special hindrance, but they don't have any special privilege. They have to wear a different shirt that just says they can't be like everybody else.
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Matt Jones
And a lot of times, you know, volleyball, you gotta be very tall. A lot of times it's the shortest person on the team. So it's almost like, how can we exclude you as much as possible?
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Drew Franklin
Why do they have to explain to me, why do they have to wear a different shirt?
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Matt Jones
You gotta acknowledge who they are on the, on the court. I think they are able to go to different areas. There's something with the rotation.
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Drew Franklin
Where are they able to go?
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Matt Jones
Well, there's something they can do in the rotation. That used to be.
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Drew Franklin
We looked up that they could. They didn't have to serve, but now they have to serve, too. So I think we're just. I want to say that unless someone can prove to me otherwise, we are scarlet lettering the Liberos. And I am leading off the NFL Cover Zero podcast, Drew asking for that to end.
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Matt Jones
Well, I went to the match today and I haven't been in a long time. And I have to admit, within two minutes of being there, I turned to my neighbor, I don't know, and I was like, now remind me. So I was there.
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Drew Franklin
They said that they were.
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Matt Jones
There was general confusion for my entire.
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Drew Franklin
Section because it used to be they didn't have to serve, which I get. But now that they have to serve, it just seems like to me you're looking at a player and going, you are not as equal as the rest of us. And I am against that.
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Matt Jones
They can set everybody else up. They're the passer.
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Drew Franklin
I understand they could do that without that shirt on, but it makes them.
- [05:45]
Matt Jones
Feel better about themselves.
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Drew Franklin
I think it should make them feel worse. They have less ability. All right, let's go to the games. Lot of. A lot of weather, a lot of rain out there today. There was a lot of conditions that, to me, looked miserable. My view about when you're. When it's raining during a game is there's. There's not a lot of joy in sitting in a penetrating cold rain. But a lot of fans did that today, especially in the north. Now we're going to do a couple of games in Florida where I guess it wasn't as cold, but. But how do you feel about sitting in the rain and watching games?
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Matt Jones
Well, I recently fixed my own fireplace. Saved myself a few hundred bucks. So I enjoyed being in the comfort of my home home this morning, watching people be miserable starting at 9:30am through that game and then onto the ones that got sloppy in the afternoon. But I enjoyed my usual couch time and watching everyone else sit through it.
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Drew Franklin
Where did you learn to fix a fireplace?
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Matt Jones
I've known you all the Internet. So you just can find anything on the Internet. I saw what it was gonna cost for this man to come to my house and I said, you know What? I got YouTube. I learned how to.
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Drew Franklin
Did you have the tools?
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Matt Jones
The thermal cooler. Didn't know what a therma. No. Thermicounter. Therma. Something. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter because the Internet knows that's what you're saying about. You could just. We have this thing. We can type in what we need to know. And I repaired my own fireplace.
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Drew Franklin
What tools did you. Did that require?
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Matt Jones
It actually didn't take a whole lot. I used a. Like a metal pad and brushed off my. My thermal counter cooler. That's the.
- [07:16]
Marcus Grant
That's.
- [07:16]
Matt Jones
That signals when the gas is coming out. So I cleaned that and then I got a little. And put in there and got some cobwebs out to make sure my gas was coming out.
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Drew Franklin
It sounds like you didn't fix anything. You just cleaned it.
- [07:24]
Matt Jones
Well, no, no. This thermicounter cooler thing, that. I'm not even sure if that's the right name. It needed a lot of tinkering, but it needed cleaning somewhat. It needed to move a little bit.
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Laquan Jones
Need a little tlc.
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Matt Jones
I mean, you're messing with gas if you mess up. I have a house full of gas. So this was a big project I took on by myself, and so far, I think my house is still there.
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Drew Franklin
You seem proud. So you sort of agree with the. I mean, not to call you a Marxist, but you agree with the Karl Marx theory that human beings need to produce things with their hands to feel good about themselves. You feel like you fixed your thermal cooler and now you feel better about yourself.
- [08:02]
Matt Jones
Right? Save myself three or four hundred bucks. And the whole point of this was because even in Lexington, we got a little weather today. Felt good to just be on the couch and watch football and be lazy and watch everyone else suffer.
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Drew Franklin
I've never fixed anything of any sort.
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Matt Jones
Not even a meal.
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Drew Franklin
Not a lot. I fixed some, so I don't ever feel that joy of, like, making something with my hands.
- [08:26]
Matt Jones
So this one in particular, because I literally made fire, I felt kind of cavemanish, like I cheered when the flame came on. It was pretty neat.
- [08:33]
Drew Franklin
I'm glad. That's kind of how the Patriots felt today.
- [08:36]
Matt Jones
They had some fire when they beat.
- [08:39]
Drew Franklin
Tampa Bay in Tampa. It was a cold November rain, to quote Guns N Roses. And Drake May was, I think, for Drake May skeptics or Drake May haters or people like me who just generally were hoping for his downfall. Today was a rough day because you could say, well, up until this point, the schedule hadn't been great, you know. You know, he got kind of lucky against the Bill. Whatever. There's no. You can't say anything today. He went. He was excellent. He had a little rough start, but after that, some passes that were just as good as you see in the league, and they get the win. And then Mike Vrabel, he. You know, a huge victory. I mean, they've completely turned this team around. I still don't buy him for the super bowl, but Just terms of being impressed. This was the one that kind of. I'm now a May believer thanks to today.
- [09:33]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Adding to it, it was another road win. They're five and oh on the road. I think it's seven straight wins overall and they keep winning their road games. May had a couple throws today that, you know, I'm not. I'm not going to say Pat's fans started seeing Tom, but they weren't not seeing Tom either.
- [09:47]
Drew Franklin
They're.
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Matt Jones
They were not seeing Tom.
- [09:49]
Drew Franklin
Let me tell you something. This is why I don't want to like him, because they're acting like they have Tom Brady again, and I think they need to slow down. For the Patriots fans watching this, he's nice. Stop with the Tom Brady stuff. But with that said, he's still excellent. I mean, he's. He has been excellent. He has clearly jumped to the top of the class. And right now, he's tied with another quarterback. We're going to talk about a little bit. Matthew Stevens Stafford for the MVP in the odds or the. Excuse me, the favorite in the odds for the mvp.
- [10:17]
Matt Jones
And one of his throws came right before the half. It was actually the catch Diggs made to save him was even better. That fourth down. You know, my boy Mike Vrabel, he likes to be a little bit of a riverboat gambler. He had a lot of people say.
- [10:29]
Drew Franklin
That, by the way, is the phrase. I don't know. That is. That has always been the phrase. You're a riverboat gambler, first of all. Now gambling's just legal.
- [10:37]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I do it right here. So I actually am losing right now on Sunday Night Football.
- [10:42]
Drew Franklin
Why is it riverboat? Why was it ever riverboat like they. There was? You could always go to Vegas. Why. Why did that become a thing? He's a riverboat gambler.
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Matt Jones
We've got a friend who gambles. I don't know that he's ever been on a riverboat, but we call him Riverboat Rob just because he's a big gambler. Probably never even been on any boat, not even a pontoon.
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Drew Franklin
I love that we do people just use sayings. Okay, so Vrabel's a riverboat gambler.
- [11:01]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Into the half, he kind of rolled the dice a little bit. It almost backfired. And I love variable gambling, but this one could have been real sloppy. He kind of just milked the clock on the go line so that the Bucks couldn't get the ball back. But then it came down to a four and goal a few yards.
- [11:17]
Drew Franklin
Talk about what he did right there. Cause that, that was a, that was a gutsy thing at the end of the game, right? They were, they were losing, weren't they?
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Laquan Jones
It was the end of the half.
- [11:26]
Drew Franklin
Into the half and they, they were, they waited and essentially just gave up a down. Just downed it on first down, then didn't get in on second and third and then went for it. So I mean they essentially threw away a down. I, if they had kicked it on fourth down, you'd have gone. Well, they knew they were going to get some points. But that was one of the more gutsy calls I've seen a coach do to just give up a down to waste 30 seconds of clock and they're down three.
- [11:55]
Matt Jones
I mean, yeah, everyone in the world would have kicked a field goal and got to the locker room tied on the road and been happy, but he.
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Drew Franklin
Didn'T want them to get the ball back.
- [12:01]
Matt Jones
That's true. And I just mean even not getting the ball back, just going for it on fourth down down three in the red zone. I mean, just take your points. You're playing on the road. Just go Todd at halftime. But no, he went for it. And that's the, the May throw kind of split the coverage and then. And then digs with a toe tapping catch.
- [12:17]
Drew Franklin
That was a great throw. That was a great catch. That was just excellent. But that is one of the more gutsy sequences. And if you kind of wonder why Mike, why Mike Vrabel is Riverboat Mike, that would be the, that would be the reason.
- [12:32]
Matt Jones
He went for it on a fourth of 15 with his like back against his own goal line earlier this season. He would do this stuff for the Tanks.
- [12:37]
Drew Franklin
A lot of what are we doing?
- [12:38]
Matt Jones
And then when it works, you're like Mike over here.
- [12:41]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Travion Henderson, who if you, if you play fantasy, which I sort of stopped doing, but I contemplated doing. Like I said, I got kicked out of my league and so for bad behavior.
- [12:53]
Laquan Jones
Well, you didn't set your lineup.
- [12:55]
Drew Franklin
I think I just got kicked out because people wanted someone new.
- [12:58]
Laquan Jones
It was a great just over you personality.
- [13:01]
Drew Franklin
It was. Well, it was just a group of people I didn't really know very well. I had, I had one friend in the league.
- [13:07]
Matt Jones
Okay. You do need it to be like.
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Drew Franklin
A group of your boys. These are not my boys. I only knew one person, so they.
- [13:13]
Matt Jones
Were probably meeting without you, going to get beers.
- [13:16]
Drew Franklin
I think there was a league group chat that I wasn't in. But this year I just didn't get the invite. But I was preparing for the Draft. And everybody was like, you got to get Trayvon Henderson. Get Trayvon Henderson. And he's been sort of non existent. But then today, 150 yards, two touchdowns, you kind of saw what the hype was about earlier this year.
- [13:33]
Matt Jones
And the two touchdowns were long runs, one of them 70 yarders. So, you know, Pat's fans are already excited to have a young Tom Brady at quarterback. And then with those two big runs that he had today, seeing rookie getting a little excited to put that with him, too.
- [13:46]
Drew Franklin
Mike Vrabel, after the game, stood outside the locker room, and as the Pats ran in, he went, NFC South, NFC south champs, NFC South. Which I sort of listened to and thought, is he saying they just won the NFC South, Mike, you don't get.
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Matt Jones
To take the trophy from him.
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Drew Franklin
I think that's what he thought. I think he thought it was like imperialism. You get to take what is theirs. But apparently he said later he meant you just beat the NFC south champs, which I guess on the one hand is impressive. But the NFC south has been kind of universally considered the worst division for a decade. That would be like going. And you know you're new New England Patriots. So it'd be like Alabama coming and going, Conference usa, Conference us. Like, I didn't think that was. I thought that was weird trash talk.
- [14:31]
Matt Jones
I saw some Bucks fans took offense to it. Were you mad, Billy, that he was yelling AFC south or NFC south champs?
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Laquan Jones
Not at all. Actually. A typical a cap to Vikrable. I mean, he's showed why he's a great coach today on all the stuff that he did, I was more interested.
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Drew Franklin
I'm glad you got that. It feels like you felt like you wanted to make sure you said something nice.
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Laquan Jones
I know he's. He's a great coach. I don't know how that.
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Matt Jones
But you should name your peloton after him.
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Laquan Jones
I needed to talk about what Baker said post game. He said he was fired up about his teammates. He said that they needed to have the fear of failure in them and they needed to be worried about letting down their teammates.
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Drew Franklin
That's. Baker said that.
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Laquan Jones
Baker said that today.
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Drew Franklin
That's odd. He doesn't always. He doesn't really strike me as a throw. His teammate under the bus guy, he's fired up.
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Laquan Jones
I guess they were doing the little things wrong today.
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Drew Franklin
Well, did he play well?
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Laquan Jones
It was okay. I mean, there's a lot of injuries right now for Tampa.
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Drew Franklin
Okay. So people should get injured less.
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Laquan Jones
No, no. I think it's just attention to detail.
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Drew Franklin
Okay.
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Laquan Jones
Messing things up. That they're working on.
- [15:27]
Drew Franklin
I thought you would be upset that there were a lot of Patriot fans in the crowd.
- [15:30]
Laquan Jones
That that hurt Dave Portnoy being on my tv. Five, six.
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Drew Franklin
So how did Dave Portnoy and Kraft become. First of all, I wonder what Dave Portnoy Kraft talk about. But what I really wonder is what Dave Portnoy's girlfriend and Kraft's wife's talking about. Because I just would like to see their conversation. Because just looking at him, it didn't seem like they had a lot in common.
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Matt Jones
No. Maybe they found some middle ground. I guess Bob Kraft and Dave Portnoy are just slobbering over Drake May like.
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Drew Franklin
Everyone else and they should. They should be very happy. But it was. Now do you have. Where do you put them in the afc? I mean they're good. They have a good shot at getting home field advantage. Do you think they could. You think they could win the AFC?
- [16:11]
Matt Jones
I think. I mean they're 8 and 2 and it's not. Their wins aren't the power power of the NFL.
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Drew Franklin
But last hard game they have really they played the Bills at home and that's really it.
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Matt Jones
I mentioned they're going on the road in these games. What's so impressing to me. Sure some of the opponents haven't been toughest in the league, but to be 5 and oh on the road, I believe they started 1 and 2 to the season and turn on and win the last seven games. I think you have to respect them. And that's why Variable was yelling NFC south to even get his team the confidence. You know, we even said they don't feel like a Super bowl contender. But he's trying to let them know you just beat a legit playoff team on their own field. And he's trying to get that through their head too.
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Drew Franklin
This is the rest of their schedule. Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins.
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Laquan Jones
That is really bad.
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Matt Jones
The road go through New England.
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Drew Franklin
Oh, without question. I mean they play the jets twice.
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Matt Jones
The jets are coming in on two.
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Drew Franklin
Game, two game win streak. So congrats. The Patriots. That was kind of. That was the game of the day. It's not sponsored so I'm just going to give a sponsor an indication of what they could get if they did this.
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Matt Jones
Okay, let's hear.
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Drew Franklin
Is the Cherry Dr. Pepper 0 game of the day.
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Matt Jones
Oh, that's big.
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Drew Franklin
Just start. I just got that. You know I'm a PIB0 guy, right. But I just had the Dr. Pepper Cherry Zero. I'm a fan. Just for the record sounds better than.
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Matt Jones
This 12 hour old Coke I have that don't even have ice anymore. I'm really struggling for this.
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Drew Franklin
They don't recommend you let Coke sit for 12 hours in the open. But you know what? I hope it.
- [17:41]
Matt Jones
I hope it works from lunch and we're recording at midnight.
- [17:44]
Drew Franklin
Wow.
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Matt Jones
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Laquan Jones
And I'm Laquan Jones.
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Matt Jones
I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season. In these three healthy games, he was the wide receiver. Two in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass.
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Drew Franklin
To Rice near side. Touchdown.
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Laquan Jones
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Drew Franklin
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Drew Franklin
All right, let's go through some other ones. Colts and the fou or Falcons that started this morning in Berlin. You know, Berlin's the nightclub capital as we talked about. So a lot of people came straight from the nightclubs and they saw Jonathan Taylor, who had one of the best runs I've seen in a long time. That that run where it looked like he got stopped at the line of scrimmage and then he went outside and went all the way down the field. To me, that's the run of the year. I don't think Jonathan Taylor is going to win the mvp, but if they were going to have a Heisman celebration and they show the highlight reel to me, that would be his highlight of the year. He was excellent and Colts win on the road. It looked a lot of games. Steal it for the Colts, who continue to be are they the story here?
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Matt Jones
As much as I hate the Colts, I enjoyed watching this game. You're right, that run was impressive. I actually thought, you know, Germany, it's their first game and John doesn't. They're gonna think that's normal. What he did absolutely was not. He bounced out of the pile. Stay in bounds people can have for that long. Another three touchdown day for him.
- [22:31]
Drew Franklin
Have you ever watched a football game with a European, by the way?
- [22:35]
Matt Jones
No, I don't think so.
- [22:36]
Drew Franklin
I mean, they have great questions. It's like when I watched with my mom as a kid, they have the exact same question. That's the big thing, is why do they stop? And with Jonathan Taylor, they didn't stop. Like, he just. He kept going on that play.
- [22:46]
Matt Jones
They gotta love him.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, they do. Daniel Jones bled from the mouth. Kind of became an iconic look. Nobody seemed to tell him no.
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Matt Jones
And it looked like lipstick. Like, if you just turned on the game, it was like perfectly on his lips, wasn't on the rest of his face, just right on his lips, so it looked like he was wearing lipstick. My wife was turned on. She was walking around, she's like, wait a minute. Why is he allowed to be in the game just bleeding from the mouth like this?
- [23:12]
Drew Franklin
Question.
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Matt Jones
Because in basketball, got to spray it, get him out of here. Don't let him touch anyone. But it looked like he was coughing it up there for a moment. Like, now, don't throw the football.
- [23:20]
Drew Franklin
It seems like it's almost encouraged. Bleed more, son. It's going to be all right.
- [23:25]
Matt Jones
Was it Matt Jones last week? Just bloody face.
- [23:28]
Drew Franklin
I think that's. I think it's just assumed, you know what, we want our quarterbacks bloody, and that's going to be. That's going to be part of how it went. Because he. You're right, he was bleeding. Even the announcers were like, are one of his teammates going to tell him, hey, man, you got a little blood? No, just let it rock.
- [23:45]
Matt Jones
If I were him, I'd rock a mouth guard, though, because I, you know, I'm not a doctor, but he got pushed into the sideline and hit his head. It looked like he might have bit his tongue or his lip, but that thing was not stopping. And they zoom in on him right there in the huddle. And got to just wonder, like, can we just take him out for a few minutes, let him get that figured out, or is he going to bleed everywhere?
- [24:01]
Drew Franklin
I loved game went to overtime, which means if the Europeans were not confused enough by the game, they had to learn the new overtime rules. Now, listen, both teams will get the ball.
- [24:13]
Matt Jones
If this one gets a field goal.
- [24:15]
Drew Franklin
They get a full field goal. But then they'll get to go back. But then, remember, the Time still matters. And they go back and forth. Everyone gets a chance. Like they had to learn all that.
- [24:22]
Matt Jones
They're probably excited. There could be a tie, though. They like ties.
- [24:25]
Laquan Jones
They love ties.
- [24:28]
Drew Franklin
They do love ties. The referee had some problems with the coin flip. I guess the. I guess what I understand the away team calls the. The coin flip, but because they were both in Berlin, I think he knew neither team was German and so he couldn't immediately figure out which team was away. He got the wrong one. So they flipped and then they had to reflip. Do you think they should have reflipped? Do you think calling it is so important that you reflip it?
- [24:59]
Matt Jones
I don't think you reflip. Also, I wondered, was it. Did they use a German coin? What do they have?
- [25:04]
Drew Franklin
Is that a euro? What do they use? Yeah, well, they use euro.
- [25:06]
Matt Jones
Maybe we're just thrown off by a.
- [25:08]
Drew Franklin
What did it used to be a deutsche mark, but now it's a euro.
- [25:11]
Matt Jones
So they didn't flip the deutsche mark?
- [25:12]
Drew Franklin
No.
- [25:13]
Matt Jones
Another tough look as we're debuting for Germany. But I don't think they. They should reflip. It happened. Move on.
- [25:19]
Drew Franklin
Well, it did. You did get a different result, but it didn't change the game. I did like though, he was trying to explain what was happening and he seemed a little confused. If you go watch the video, he's like, I flipped. But it was in. I thought we were in Vietnam, but we are in Germany and the home. Like, he did all this and it reminded me. Did you see the end of the Cal Louisville game Saturday?
- [25:40]
Matt Jones
No, I did not. I was watching our beloved Cats.
- [25:43]
Drew Franklin
If Billy was a good editor, I would have him insert the sound here. But they go to overtime and Cal or Louisville goes first. They kick a field goal. Then it's Cow's turn and they score a touchdown. So the game's over, but for some reason, the official just gets on the microphone and Cow is celebrating running. The running around the field goes, the game is not over. Excuse me? Game is not over. Stop celebrating. The game is not over. And then there's a pause and he goes, the game is over.
- [26:19]
Matt Jones
He needed a moment. He wasn't ready. Give him time, Matt. He wasn't ready to call it.
- [26:23]
Drew Franklin
You think he just wanted. Do you think he was so happy with the experience of this Cal Louisville game, he just didn't want it to end yet?
- [26:29]
Matt Jones
Or maybe he just wanted to really make sure that they had scored. Kind of like in horse racing, there's this awkward few before it goes final. You can't cash Your ticket.
- [26:37]
Drew Franklin
Okay.
- [26:37]
Matt Jones
He was waiting for the final results.
- [26:39]
Drew Franklin
If you watch the final play, it was fairly clearly scored. It was not.
- [26:42]
Matt Jones
It was not close, but maybe he's just not processing as quickly as everyone else. He needed a minute to get that through and call the game.
- [26:48]
Drew Franklin
I just thought he was having a great time. He was like, I don't want this party to end yet. We're never going to be in this moment together ever again.
- [26:57]
Matt Jones
Let's walk down here a little while. You get to go again.
- [27:00]
Drew Franklin
So the Bears, my Bears came back. They were down in the fourth quarter, down two scores with just eight minutes to go, and Caleb Williams led a comeback. That's a game I've watched for about 10 straight years. And instead they won it. Scored twice, downstretch. Great drive by Caleb to finish game. They get the comeback and they win 24 20, the Giants, unfortunately. Jackson dark. Russell Wilson, well, he was good at one time.
- [27:27]
Matt Jones
He is now graduating.
- [27:29]
Drew Franklin
Can you ever think of a quarterback in the history of the NFL who has fallen marks? So try to think of anyone this fall has more precipitous from being an MVP candidate for a Super bowl winning team to on one of the worst teams in the league. Benched. And then when he comes in, the other team thinks, no, now we have a shot.
- [27:50]
Matt Jones
Yeah, bench for a rookie that people weren't even sure about when the pick was in.
- [27:54]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [27:55]
Matt Jones
Fan base was divided. No, especially not without other circumstances. It's not like there was an injury or something else. No, he just went to a different team, wasn't good, went to another team, seemed to be worse to a different.
- [28:06]
Drew Franklin
Team, was bad, and then got significantly worse. And also I saw. Who was it? Scott Van Pelt tweeted out Mr. Limited.
- [28:16]
Matt Jones
Geez. Ouch.
- [28:18]
Drew Franklin
I thought that was one of the meaner things I've seen Scott Van Pelt say. Scott Van Pelt's a really nice guy. He just. I mean, people's. It's like people feel okay being so mean to Russell Wilson.
- [28:31]
Matt Jones
Everybody gets their jokes off about how he's corny, but he doesn't like, seem like a bad person. Like, he almost seems like too nice.
- [28:38]
Drew Franklin
Well, but I guess people think it's bad that he had his own office.
- [28:41]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Well, there's a little bit of maybe you think you're above people, that you're.
- [28:45]
Drew Franklin
People seem to genuinely really dislike him.
- [28:49]
Matt Jones
And on the, you know, getting the jokes off, it kind of seems like anyone that watches the NFL even casually knows what Russell Wilson's going through. We know that's A former super bowl champion that is now not doing well. And they're piling on a little bit, it seems. I wouldn't expect that of SVP but.
- [29:03]
Drew Franklin
A nice joke joke, Mr. Limited, the Giants, Billy gave me the stat earlier. Were our own four this year when they've led by 10 points or more on the road. They've given up a double digit lead on the road four times so far this year in nine games.
- [29:19]
Matt Jones
Well, you know the one today then the one comes to mind in Denver earlier or last month with the. The huge collapse. They gotta learn how to finish games. I don't think it's gonna matter though.
- [29:29]
Drew Franklin
Because they ball could be fired tomorrow.
- [29:31]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think it'll matter because they'll be making.
- [29:33]
Drew Franklin
They will. You think they can go? It's a shame.
- [29:36]
Matt Jones
Scatter Boo and Dart gave him a little swag for a few weeks. They had some fun. But I think they need to move.
- [29:41]
Drew Franklin
If you're a Giants fan and you were looking forward to hey, next week I get Russell Wilson in a game, would you want to buy those tickets?
- [29:50]
Matt Jones
No. And I think there's. It's real tough from.
- [29:52]
Drew Franklin
Let me read you. They're 2 and 8. They actually haven't had their bye week yet. So let's see. All right, they next week or. No, they have a buy next game.
- [30:00]
Matt Jones
But it gets nasty.
- [30:02]
Drew Franklin
Packers, Lions, Patriots, commanders, Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys.
- [30:08]
Matt Jones
On the back end. But that stretch of Packers, Lions, Patriots. Enjoy your own three.
- [30:12]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, good. Good luck with that. It was snowed a little bit in this game which though was not the best performance in a supporting role by snow today. Did you see the Canadian soccer game?
- [30:26]
Laquan Jones
No.
- [30:26]
Matt Jones
Tell me about.
- [30:27]
Drew Franklin
I love it. I put on the YouTube TV. I have like seven channels now because they took all the ESPN off and FS2 popped up and it said Canadian. It said Canadian Premier League Championship live. I was like, oh, it's live. Just take a second real quick to on your little Twitter machine, Google the scene at the Canadian. They were having a blizzard during the game.
- [30:57]
Matt Jones
Oh yeah. Can't even see field. Actually a picture of the goalies holding a snow shovel. In fact, that's the header on this website. On the field with his gloves on, he has snow shoveling.
- [31:07]
Drew Franklin
Well, the goalies shoveled the area in front of him.
- [31:10]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.
- [31:11]
Drew Franklin
And the other one didn't, which I thought was an interesting strategy. I think one of them thought I need a clear area. The other one thought, let's muck it up with snow. I don't know which strategy was better. It was. And it was riveting. I think it was Ottawa versus Calgary, but it was riveting because it was so snowy. And there's a play that I think went viral. A guy did a bicycle kick in the snow, which may be the most transformational athletic achievement I've ever seen.
- [31:39]
Matt Jones
I'm watching a clip right now. The snow coming down the broadcast. You kind of have to squint just to see them out on the field.
- [31:46]
Drew Franklin
It was great. And you would think, okay, that looks miserable. First of all, all of them still wearing shorts. Nobo thought, why don't I go with pants? They all still went with shorts.
- [31:55]
Matt Jones
They got tough it out.
- [31:56]
Drew Franklin
Ice was growing on people's hair.
- [31:59]
Matt Jones
See, that's right now.
- [32:00]
Drew Franklin
It was awesome. And I don't know, sometimes FS2 I think they only show horse racing from New York and like French soccer games. But they have to replay this game and you just need to watch it. It's no offense to the NFL. It was the most entertaining event on television today.
- [32:18]
Matt Jones
I'm enjoying the clips I'm seeing. The goalie is now shoveling out his path. Also, I noticed earlier, I think right before the bicycle kick, you know, soccer players are so fast running around. They can barely run in this. They're like high, high stepping just to get through the ceiling.
- [32:31]
Drew Franklin
Guys would kick the ball really hard and it would go 10ft and it would just stop on the ground. It was great. Also there was a good moment. I've never understood this. When they do, they had a penalty kick, they fight with the other team about where the ball goes. Place it one foot ahead of where it should be and then the defender will come and move it back. And on this one, the player pulled one of the great all time moves. The referee looked at him and gave him a you keep the ball right there. And he went and like pointed in the crowd. The ref turned around and he moved it up.
- [33:02]
Matt Jones
Probably hard to tell in the snow.
- [33:03]
Drew Franklin
There's no way to tell. So anyway, it was good entertainment. Bears won.
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Right now and well you're sweet and all but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it.
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Matt Jones
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And I'm Laquan Jones.
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- [35:42]
Matt Jones
I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season and.
- [35:46]
Drew Franklin
There'S three healthy games he was the.
- [35:47]
Matt Jones
Wide receiver two in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass.
- [35:52]
Drew Franklin
To Rice near side touchdown.
- [35:55]
Laquan Jones
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Drew Franklin
Drake takes the snap hands it Off Ray running it right and running into the end zone. Touchdown.
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- [36:34]
Matt Jones
We kick things off with Brian Baldinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday.
- [36:38]
Drew Franklin
It is as good a timing, rhythm offense as there is in the league right now.
- [36:42]
Daniel Jeremiah
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- [36:50]
Drew Franklin
DJ talked me into a Ronde Gadsden Jr.
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Matt Jones
He had a monster game.
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Drew Franklin
Monster.
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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- [37:24]
Drew Franklin
Jets beat the Browns 27:20. The jets had, for the first time in 37 years, a team got a kickoff touchdown. Excuse me, a kickoff return touchdown. And the next time they got the ball, a punt return touchdown. First time that's happened in 37 years.
- [37:40]
Matt Jones
Yeah, early in the game, I didn't think the jets would win another one this season after they had their magical moment, Cincinnati. But when you start the game with two touchdowns like that, I'd say you're in good hands. They were finished the job. Got those 14 points in the first quarter.
- [37:53]
Drew Franklin
I'm an Aaron Glenn fan. I'm not saying as a coach because I'm not sure he's a very good coach, but he still looks like he could play.
- [38:02]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah.
- [38:03]
Drew Franklin
He wears clothes like people play. Like he's kind of got the mid-40s. I still work out and you need to know about it. Energy.
- [38:11]
Matt Jones
It's kind of a little bit of unk in there too with the gray.
- [38:14]
Drew Franklin
Beard, but it's like unk that wants you to know if you step out of line, I can still smack that face.
- [38:20]
Matt Jones
Like if you run towards their sideline, he might hit you with a shoulder that you're going to feel unlike other coaches.
- [38:26]
Drew Franklin
I'm waiting for him to do a headbutt on somebody with a helmet. I think it very well might come. So I'm saying I'm an Aaron Glenn.
- [38:32]
Matt Jones
Fan and I was pretty happy for the Jets. They made those big trades and we talk about how they're preparing for the future and just going to tank. I'm just got the win right after that happened. But then I know we already addressed the Colts game, but Sauce Gardner did not look good in that game. He got torched in the end zone. And then Quinn Williams did, did nothing today for the Cowboys. They're on a buy.
- [38:51]
Drew Franklin
So the jets, to be fair to Sauce Gardner, he gets traded Wednesday and then has to go to Berlin. I don't think he thought, I mean, literally on Wednesday he's like, hey, I'm in New York. I'm chilling. And then all of a sudden they're like, we're going to need you to update. You got to get to Berlin.
- [39:06]
Matt Jones
I would have given him a break, but his knees buckled on one play. He got folded. And then the jets go and get their win. So I'm happy. The jets got the W after their fire sale at the deadline.
- [39:15]
Drew Franklin
The Browns had one of the more Cleveland Browns like moments that you could have. I mean, they, they, it was fourth and nine. They stop them, but then there's a penalty for offsides. So they do it again. It's 4th and 4 and they get a neutral zone infraction. The Browns would have had a chance to tie the game. That may be one of the more Browns way to lose.
- [39:39]
Matt Jones
Lose beating themselves up. You know, we know how bad they are, but Dylan Gabriel actually gave you a decent game turnover free and you can't.
- [39:45]
Drew Franklin
He looked pretty good.
- [39:47]
Matt Jones
Fine. You know, I don't know if anybody's going to be buying his jersey this offseason, getting excited. But they, this is a game they could have won and should have won it.
- [39:54]
Drew Franklin
This was the game that I thought people looked the most miserable because it was pouring in New York and they.
- [40:00]
Matt Jones
Voluntarily went to a Browns jets game.
- [40:02]
Drew Franklin
In the first place. So they went out to. If anybody's ever been to the Meadowlands, you got to want to get there. Like there's no easy way. You don't just go get an Uber. Yeah, you want to get. I mean, you can get an Uber, but you're going to still be taking a second mortgage to pay for it. It's far away. The train is crowded. And then to go and just sit in the Rain and watch the Browns and Jets. Those are pretty hardy fans, aren't they?
- [40:27]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I'm just wondering who would it be? Jets fans didn't really have a lot to excite about. Did Cleveland fans travel? They're trying to get into the Meadowlands for that one. So it's almost like what kind of.
- [40:37]
Drew Franklin
It looked to me like, though it was a pretty big crowd. First game I've ever watched, the jets where they didn't show that guy in the helmet. Ah, you think he wasn't there?
- [40:45]
Matt Jones
Hope he's all right. They show him usually. Coin toss straight to him. Quarterback run on the field.
- [40:52]
Drew Franklin
First time. I've never seen him at the gate.
- [40:54]
Laquan Jones
Yeah, I hope he's okay.
- [40:55]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [40:55]
Matt Jones
Even he was like, Chet's Browns. No, I'm gonna take this one off.
- [41:00]
Drew Franklin
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it. The Texans with one of the great comebacks in a long time against the Jaguars. Jaguars were up 29 to 10 to start. Start the fourth quarter and they will lose 3,000, 629 Davis Mills. I mean, go go Gadget. Davis Mills was excellent. If you had only seen the fourth quarter today, you would think Davis Mills is the best quarterback in football. He was unbelievable.
- [41:30]
Matt Jones
C.J. stroud, should you worry about his job when he gets back? So that good?
- [41:35]
Drew Franklin
I mean, no. But if you promise me fourth quarter, Davis Mills, I'm taking him over. Joe Mont. Unbelievable.
- [41:43]
Matt Jones
26.4-First quarters wild for anyone. I have a confession with this game. I was pretty dialed in. And when the fourth quarter started, I kind of thought, you know, I had red zone on. But then I locked into other games, did not even know anything about the comeback. I got a text from a friend that says, holy bleep. Jaguars. And I'm thinking, there's no way they blew that game and flipped over and had seen it happen. I couldn't believe they lost that. And then I don't know if you saw Liam Cohen after the game. Wasn't one big fan of how they. They collapsed and lost that one.
- [42:12]
Drew Franklin
Liam Cohen looked as angry as a dorky guy that went to Maine could possibly look. You know, I mean, he did go to. He did go. He will look like he'd spent some time on the mean streets of Duvall. He was. He was upset, but he should be. I mean, you're up 29 to 10 having a chance to steal that game. And I think I heard saw like, the Texans have won so many games in a row in that rivalry and you were finally able to break that streak and then collapse. That is. And that's a loss that could keep them out of the playoffs. Oh, yeah, that is a potential. I mean, now they're tied with the Chiefs for the final spot, but they had a one game lead on them until that.
- [42:52]
Matt Jones
And it was a road game. But when you're the Jags and you've been playing well, I guess they lost a couple before that one. But you think Davis Mills, Texans, if we're going to do anything this season, this is a game we have to win.
- [43:02]
Drew Franklin
We got. This is one.
- [43:03]
Matt Jones
We got Davis Mills. Respectfully, Davis Mills. This is one I'm sure the Jags are kicking themselves over because that's one you got to win. Even though it wasn't Houston.
- [43:10]
Drew Franklin
Is that what you call him? Respectfully David Smith.
- [43:12]
Matt Jones
I'm saying respectfully to you. You shouldn't be winning football games in the NFL.
- [43:16]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I would. I call him Respectfully David Smith.
- [43:19]
Matt Jones
I feel like he's been around forever too.
- [43:22]
Drew Franklin
He was a meme forever ago. Can you tell me where he went to college?
- [43:27]
Laquan Jones
No. I was thinking about this when you mentioned he was better than Joe Montana.
- [43:32]
Drew Franklin
Anybody know?
- [43:33]
Matt Jones
I don't have it. Don't have it. I'm going to say somewhere in California.
- [43:35]
Drew Franklin
Make sure I'm right about this. Good guess. I believe he went to Stanford. Did Davis Mills go to Stanford?
- [43:41]
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- [43:41]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [43:42]
Matt Jones
Felt like a California guy.
- [43:43]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, he was. He was. He was part of that Stanford legacy. From John Elway to Andrew Luck. Why'd you look at me like that?
- [43:52]
Laquan Jones
That was gonna. See who you're gonna say next to.
- [43:54]
Drew Franklin
Andrew Luck to Davis Mills. It's quite the lineage.
- [43:59]
Matt Jones
Yes.
- [44:00]
Drew Franklin
All right. How many schools have three better? What's the best?
- [44:05]
Matt Jones
I mean, there's more than Davis Mills.
- [44:09]
Drew Franklin
Well, those first two are really good.
- [44:12]
Matt Jones
Davis Mills is really benefiting from headstep just being in their company.
- [44:17]
Drew Franklin
I will grant you that. Davis Mills is. He's drafting what college? That's a good question. What college has produced the best quarterbacks? The lineage. What do you got? It's not Alabama. They actually have a surprisingly poor lineage.
- [44:32]
Matt Jones
There's a disappointment.
- [44:34]
Drew Franklin
What's. What. What's Notre Dame?
- [44:36]
Matt Jones
I was gonna say Notre Dame, Montana and who else?
- [44:40]
Laquan Jones
Brady Quinn.
- [44:41]
Matt Jones
Brady Quinn.
- [44:42]
Drew Franklin
Stop. Freddie Quinn. Who's the handsome guy with the beer Hun Palace?
- [44:46]
Laquan Jones
Oh, he's not doing anything though.
- [44:49]
Drew Franklin
Wait a minute. Where did Ken Stabler went to. Went to Alabama.
- [44:54]
Laquan Jones
Sounds right.
- [44:55]
Drew Franklin
There's got to be one. Until somebody tells me another one. I'm going with Stanford with John Elway. Andrew Luck and Davis Mill.
- [45:02]
Matt Jones
Is that better than Jimmy Claust and Brady Quinn? Joe Montana.
- [45:08]
Drew Franklin
Let's see. Troy, eight.
- [45:09]
Matt Jones
There's got to be more Notre Dame. Why are we thinking of.
- [45:12]
Drew Franklin
Brady went to Michigan. Who else went to Michigan? Drew Henson. There's not a lot of Michigan guys. Peyton Manning went to Tennessee, but I can't think of another Tennessee guy that's really good. Mahomes, Texas Tech. So no, let's just go through. We did Montana, Starbuck went to like what Pitt or not. Stop. Excuse me. Style with the Navy. Bradshaw? I think with the Pit.
- [45:42]
Laquan Jones
No, Oklahoma's got Baker.
- [45:45]
Drew Franklin
Okay, but who else?
- [45:46]
Laquan Jones
Tyler, Sam Bradford, Josh Hyple.
- [45:50]
Drew Franklin
I mean those are all. None of those guys is of the is of. Until someone gives me otherwise, I'm still going. Stanford with Elway Luck and Davis Mills.
- [46:00]
Matt Jones
What about Louisville?
- [46:02]
Drew Franklin
Well, it's got Lamar Bridgewater and Johnny unit. That's a good one. Johnny Unit, Lamar and Teddy Bridgewater.
- [46:12]
Laquan Jones
Alabama's got swivel with those top two.
- [46:15]
Drew Franklin
I mean, that is a. I don't know. I don't. Is Davis Mills better than Teddy Bridgewater?
- [46:25]
Matt Jones
It really comes down to Davis Mills versus any Bridgewater.
- [46:28]
Drew Franklin
They can probably take Danny Bridgewater. It's going to be close. There's got to be a school that's.
- [46:34]
Laquan Jones
Better than Jalen Hurts is from Oklahoma too, or. And Alabama.
- [46:38]
Drew Franklin
So Alabama, if you take their best, is Ken Stabler, Joe Namath. Did Bart Star go there?
- [46:46]
Marcus Grant
I think.
- [46:47]
Drew Franklin
Okay, now that's. That might be the winner even though because Ken Stabler, Joe Namath and Bart Starr is a pretty good three. That's going to be tough to take then Jalen Hurts.
- [46:55]
Laquan Jones
Bart was Alabama.
- [46:56]
Drew Franklin
Okay, so then I think I'm going to take Alabama. Davis Mills will be second.
- [47:01]
Matt Jones
Does Purdue have a third with Breeze and Greasy. Didn't Bob Greasy go there?
- [47:06]
Laquan Jones
Yes, he did.
- [47:07]
Drew Franklin
It's pretty good.
- [47:08]
Matt Jones
They have a third. I don't know a third.
- [47:12]
Laquan Jones
Len Dawson.
- [47:13]
Drew Franklin
Now that's. That's a really good threesome. So it's Alabama, Purdue and Stanford. I think we all agree. Wait a minute. I got one. Hang on. California.
- [47:24]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [47:25]
Drew Franklin
Rogers, Jerry Goff and that they have somebody else.
- [47:31]
Matt Jones
It's a good one.
- [47:31]
Laquan Jones
I can't think of.
- [47:32]
Matt Jones
I don't have a third.
- [47:34]
Drew Franklin
I didn't expect to get off on this. Just. I just want Davis Mills to get respect for how he played in the fourth quarter.
- [47:39]
Matt Jones
Well, I think this debate is different. If we had it yesterday in Davis Mills 26 point fourth quarter today.
- [47:45]
Marcus Grant
If you're.
- [47:45]
Matt Jones
If you're ever going to make the case for Stanford, right now is the.
- [47:48]
Drew Franklin
Moment to do it.
- [47:49]
Matt Jones
This is your best day to do it.
- [47:51]
Drew Franklin
Best day maybe in the history of mankind to make the make it.
- [47:55]
Matt Jones
That was fun on the fly though. Gotta get that brain moving.
- [47:58]
Drew Franklin
I'm sure there are ones we didn't. Yeah, we probably sound like idiots if we did. That's, you know, we did the, the best we could. Just wanted to make a note here at the halfway point, Paul Tagliabu passed away. He was the NFL commissioner between Pete Roselle and Roger Goodell. He's probably best known for he kind of of negotiated the first big leaps in NFL TV contracts. He negotiated I think the first deal with Fox, which was the one that really took NFL media rights to a new team. He added he was part of adding the Jacksonville Jaguars, Carolina Panthers to the league, which made it 32 teams and kind of was a transition between two commissioners that were a long time everyone considers a gentleman and also was the first one to push to have games in Europe as well. So he probably passed away on a day that they played a game in Berlin. So rest in peace to Paul Tagiboo. I think they say he was 88 years old.
- [48:59]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that was the, the commissioner of my childhood when I was just falling in love with the NFL and as you mentioned with the, the Europe connection that was big today with that first Berlin game and how they keep growing the International Series. And he was a big part of getting that started back when he was in charge.
- [49:14]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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Drew Franklin
H It's got to be when I'm really craving it and it's could you.
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Matt Jones
Be more specific when it's cravenient okay.
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Drew Franklin
Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter available right down the street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a.
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Matt Jones
Second at a.m. pM.
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Drew Franklin
I'm seeing a pattern here. Well yeah, we're talking about what I.
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Matt Jones
Crave, which is anything from am pm.
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Matt Jones
I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season. In these three healthy games, he was the 1 wide receiver 2 in fantasy I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass.
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Drew Franklin
To Rice near side. Touchdown.
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Laquan Jones
Ramandre Stevens is my sleeper this week. This is a matchup where I think I can slide in Stevenson in my flex position and he could deliver double digit points this week.
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Matt Jones
We kick things off with Brian Baldinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday.
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Drew Franklin
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Drew Franklin
DJ talked me into a Ronde Gadsden Jr.
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Matt Jones
He had a monster game.
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Drew Franklin
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- [53:30]
Drew Franklin
All right, Dolphins Bills craziest result of the day.
- [53:34]
Matt Jones
I mean, shocking.
- [53:36]
Drew Franklin
Not just the Dolphins shocking, but the fact that they dominate them. Up 60, 16 nothing in the first half. Josh Allen, you know, his MVP candidacy took a plummet, but it was a, it was an absolute beat down. And you know, today on my ESPN morning show, we always have a celebrity guest picker. And today we had Damon Heward, Brock Hewitt's brother, whose son executed the fake punt for Stanford Friday night, which is why we had Damon Heward. And he picked this game.
- [54:05]
Matt Jones
We called that. Wow.
- [54:07]
Drew Franklin
We picked all the game. He said Dolphins. He said, I've been talking to people in the Dolphins. They feel comfortable about winning today. And he picked. So shout out to Damon Hewitt. Were you surprised by this?
- [54:16]
Matt Jones
I was shocked. I mean, well, one, I was shocked just that the Dolphins could win, but the Bills zero points at halftime. That first half was just punt, punt, punt. They had a bad fumble on a drive when it looks like they were going to finally get some points. So it was the first time they haven't scored in the first half in over two years. So it's not just that the Dolphins are walking away the winners. I couldn't believe the Bills could could look that bad.
- [54:39]
Drew Franklin
I yeah, I mean the Bills watching Josh Allen, he threw a terrible interception in the end zone on a play. I think they were going they had a shot to cut it from, you know, what was the final score? I think it was 16 to 6 and they had a shot to cut it to 16, 13. He throws an interception. He had a bad fumble on the series after that. Really just a unbelievable. I mean especially the Dolphins had lost what, seven straight or something. And then to win this game and win it in the. Dominating. This will be one of those results that may be the most surprising of the year.
- [55:14]
Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean, how many times on the show are we wondering when the Dolphins would have a coaching opening now? I'd say after this.
- [55:20]
Drew Franklin
Well, they've already said he's going to finish the year. Maybe he just needed that vote of confidence.
- [55:24]
Matt Jones
He had a big game from HN with 174 yards, 2tds. I don't know if the Dolphins have found life or anything, but this says a lot about the Bills. And this could really hurt playoff seating on down the road. This is a loss that they could not take.
- [55:36]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, this. I mean, it's hard to win the division now if you're there. I mean, it's not. You're kind of at the mercy of the Pats now if you want to win the division. So a really, really surprising result. Mike McDaniel was really wet.
- [55:52]
Matt Jones
I didn't see that.
- [55:54]
Drew Franklin
What? It was just really rained.
- [55:57]
Matt Jones
But just from the weather, like, I.
- [56:00]
Drew Franklin
Mean, I don't think it was like he was just like, had taken a shower. It was just. He was really wet during the game. He looked. I don't know if it's because of his hair. He doesn't wear a hat. So because of that, he just looked extra wet to me. And he also seemed to be wearing a cotton T shirt, which is not. You don't. I mean, you don't want to wear a cotton T shirt in the rain. So it wasn't dressed appropriately. Well, I'm not. I mean, it's up to him. He just looked really wet to me. And I started thinking, man, are you okay?
- [56:28]
Laquan Jones
Dan Lanning wears cotton on purpose in the rain because he's in the fight as much as the players are.
- [56:34]
Drew Franklin
That's just stupid.
- [56:35]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I. I like Dan Lanning, but sometimes coaches, they go too far. It's like, that's really.
- [56:40]
Drew Franklin
Say that. That's dumb. I can see Mike McDaniel saying that. I think he did it because he needed to change quickly after he had a DJ set he had to do right after the game. But just sitting here, seeing him, he looked like a sappy, wet dog sitting. Standing in the rain, but a happy one because they got the victory.
- [56:58]
Matt Jones
Huge win, Biggest result of the. Of the. The entire weekend. And, you know, I don't want to get too far ahead, but does this have any implications otherwise?
- [57:05]
Laquan Jones
I guess the result of the Survivor pool league, that's for sure.
- [57:07]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. So I'm out. I had the Bills. So Billy now Wins the survivor pool again. We found the one thing Billy's really good at, which is survivor pool. You had the Seahawks, right?
- [57:19]
Laquan Jones
Seahawks.
- [57:20]
Drew Franklin
So you now win the survivor league pool. We're going to let you keep going during the year, see how far you can go.
- [57:25]
Matt Jones
Okay. Tough loss for you, Matt. I gotta be honest, again, this is unbelievable.
- [57:32]
Drew Franklin
You heard me. I didn't want to pick it.
- [57:34]
Laquan Jones
Yeah.
- [57:34]
Drew Franklin
Because I. You know, weird things happen in Miami. Back when Brady was with the Patriots, they would be awesome. And then they would just randomly lose a game in Miami. And, you know, if I'd known he was going to wear a cotton T shirt, I would have been even more. But, you know, you got to go down. It is why it's hard. I think now I saw there's only like 3 or 4% of the people in the big one left because so many people got knocked out by the book Bills. Oh, yeah.
- [58:02]
Matt Jones
That was a big point. There's a lot of big point spreads this week, but that was one of the biggest.
- [58:06]
Laquan Jones
Yeah. So what do I get for winning the Survivor pool? I would like to propose I get the Tate Ratledge jersey from the other thing that I won earlier as my award for.
- [58:17]
Drew Franklin
But the point was you were supposed to get that. You were going to get him if you got us on the show, you got him on the show, which you didn't.
- [58:23]
Laquan Jones
No, I didn't, but.
- [58:25]
Drew Franklin
So now you want me to actually go through with it.
- [58:27]
Laquan Jones
I think what I did, I came through for the Tate.
- [58:30]
Matt Jones
I think the Tate Routledge was a prize for something he pulled off that.
- [58:33]
Laquan Jones
Was something else that was forgetting for Brown spider.
- [58:36]
Drew Franklin
I'll get you the Tate.
- [58:37]
Matt Jones
South Africa wine. Don't forget the South African.
- [58:39]
Laquan Jones
Where's that wine?
- [58:41]
Drew Franklin
It's still on the way. Tariffs have you. Does he play Tate Railage?
- [58:49]
Laquan Jones
Yeah, he's on the Lions.
- [58:50]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah?
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Laquan Jones
He's one of their starters, I believe.
- [58:53]
Drew Franklin
Offensive line. And is he doing well?
- [58:56]
Laquan Jones
Yeah.
- [58:56]
Drew Franklin
How do you know?
- [58:58]
Laquan Jones
I'm a fan.
- [58:59]
Drew Franklin
Remember the preview? Okay.
- [59:01]
Laquan Jones
So you don't know how many.
- [59:02]
Drew Franklin
You know how many pancakes he has.
- [59:03]
Matt Jones
What was his pff. Score today?
- [59:06]
Laquan Jones
Not sure. Not sure. But big win for the Lions today.
- [59:08]
Drew Franklin
All right. Ravens. Vikings. Vikings started out up 14 or 13. Nothing looked like they were going to run away with the game and then collapse. Eight false starts at home, which.
- [59:20]
Matt Jones
How do you do that?
- [59:21]
Drew Franklin
I don't know if that's not a record. That has to be up there. And the Ravens come back when 2719. Lamar, who had a slow first half, really picked it up in the second half. This is the game. Ravens are now favored to win the AFC north after starting one in five. I thought this was a massive game for both teams, the Ravens, because I think they are now on pace. They paid this play the Steelers twice. They can win the division. And then the Vikings. This is the kind of game that keeps you out of the playoffs.
- [59:49]
Matt Jones
Yeah, tough loss for them. It's embarrassing to have the penalties and the mistakes they did at home. One of the crazier things I saw from this was Lamar. I had forgotten about his NFC, his record against the NFC. He's now 25 and 3 against NFC teams. That is outrageous for someone playing out.
- [60:06]
Drew Franklin
But you can see why because you don't get. You can't practice against that. There's no way to replicate what he does in the week leading up to it. So if you haven't seen it, it, you know, I mean the teams that play Lamar the best are the NFC north teams. Even when they're not good. Because they've seen it a lot. If you haven't seen it, what are you going to do?
- [60:24]
Matt Jones
Oh, I completely get it. But 25 and 3 in the NFL is impressive. So that blew me away when they put that stat up. But they have turned it on. They had that. Whether it was four out of five to start the year, we'd all thrown them away. Defense is still suspect, but with a healthy Lamar they're always going to be a record.
- [60:40]
Drew Franklin
Now they 4 and 5.
- [60:41]
Laquan Jones
4 and 5.
- [60:42]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I mean they're 13 in a.
- [60:43]
Laquan Jones
Row, same as Minnesota.
- [60:44]
Drew Franklin
You would not want to see them, you know, they're in the playoffs, you.
- [60:48]
Matt Jones
Know their next three games.
- [60:49]
Drew Franklin
Give them to me.
- [60:50]
Matt Jones
Browns, Jets, Bengals. Don't let the Ravens get hot.
- [60:56]
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean they're going to get hot.
- [60:57]
Matt Jones
I mean that's, that'll probably be a six game win streak. Wins. All said and done, we'll see about the Bengals. I think it's.
- [61:02]
Drew Franklin
Let's just go through their whole schedule. You may said Browns, Jets, Bingles, then you got the Steelers, Bingles again, Patriots. That could be now. Massive game. Packers, Steelers again. So you're right, they need to win these next three. But if they could just take care of business in Browns, Jets, Bengals they'll be. And you're now only one game back from the Steelers and they will play.
- [61:25]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's why they get a little six game winning streak going. Stay healthy. Defense sure up a little bit. They're going to be right in the mix. When we were here at the playoff.
- [61:33]
Drew Franklin
Time Saints beat the Panthers 17 to 7. I have to admit I wasn't locked in on this game. You told me that Tyler Schuck is the first Saints rookie quarterback to get a win since when?
- [61:48]
Laquan Jones
1981.
- [61:50]
Drew Franklin
Wow.
- [61:51]
Matt Jones
Impressive.
- [61:51]
Laquan Jones
Guess they don't have a lot of rookie quarterbacks starting.
- [61:53]
Matt Jones
You know, we were big believers in Tyler Shock. We all knew this was going to happen.
- [61:56]
Drew Franklin
Well, I mean I'll stack like he was great. He had 17.
- [61:59]
Matt Jones
Hold on.
- [61:59]
Drew Franklin
But he used to rating was insanely high, right?
- [62:03]
Laquan Jones
Yes. 128.9, 282 passing yards, two touchdowns. Looked pretty decent.
- [62:08]
Drew Franklin
That's pretty good.
- [62:09]
Matt Jones
Where do you go to school? I can't have that out there. We can't have that on podcast. Me complimenting Louisville, but it's another one.
- [62:17]
Drew Franklin
It sounds in our little ranking depending on how you view Davis Mills, it sounded like Louisville was like third.
- [62:24]
Matt Jones
I don't want to give them that credit. I can't believe we're doing this. On this podcast complimenting Alabama Purdue.
- [62:32]
Laquan Jones
For the Panthers, Rico Dowdell did the. The no, no gyrating of hips. Touchdown celebration. No pumps.
- [62:38]
Drew Franklin
So he did zero pumps. They lost the game. But I do have to give him credit for that. I think it's kind of a gutsy thing to do. You got fine for the two pumps. He put the hands behind the head like it was going to be another pump. He did the setup and then he did not pump.
- [62:56]
Matt Jones
He pre pumped and just didn't go through with it. Also in the Colts game, their mascot double pumped after the Phil goal.
- [63:02]
Drew Franklin
He always does that.
- [63:03]
Matt Jones
Yeah, but I, he. It was, it was two. I kind of feel like that was intentional that he did a 2 pump. He did a little check to see.
- [63:08]
Drew Franklin
How come they don't suspend. Why is the Colts mascot led? Because the Kyle, he's always pumping and I have to tell you, the Colts mascot, to me that's a lot dirtier of a pumping. There's so much moving there.
- [63:22]
Matt Jones
Where's his fine. His flag?
- [63:23]
Drew Franklin
And like mascots are in general like child. Like children are for mascots. I feel like there's a lot of pumping going on.
- [63:32]
Matt Jones
Should we.
- [63:32]
Laquan Jones
Should we hold our mascots to the.
- [63:34]
Matt Jones
Same standard we do the players Blue and Rico Dallas.
- [63:37]
Drew Franklin
I just think if Rico Dall has to. Has to get hit, he should get the pump as much as a guy in a fur costume.
- [63:45]
Matt Jones
Is there a limit on pumps? Obviously two.
- [63:49]
Drew Franklin
Now he's got to do one and see. See what happens. They lost. Disappointing result from the Panthers who had been Good. They're now, what, 5 and 5?
- [63:57]
Laquan Jones
Correct.
- [63:58]
Drew Franklin
But they had had a winning record. You got to think you're going to win this game. I was at home today. You got to think you're going to win that. And then again, that's a disappointing result.
- [64:07]
Matt Jones
I think if you're Meow Mix, you just plug in, you're like, look, we did as long as we could.
- [64:10]
Drew Franklin
They lost to the Saints.
- [64:13]
Matt Jones
I think, you know, I was big on Meow Mix. Stay away. You're the reason they're winning. I think this is so bad. Meow. The Meow Mix controversy is over.
- [64:21]
Drew Franklin
I wonder if it's some karma for how they treated the Meow Mix people.
- [64:26]
Matt Jones
Could be those former players.
- [64:28]
Drew Franklin
Jonathan Stewart may have some apologizing to do. Meow Mix was just trying to do something good. And you all turned them right. And that's karma.
- [64:36]
Matt Jones
And of all the teams, the same. I mean, you beat the packers and then lose to the Saints.
- [64:42]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it's the way it goes. All right. The late games collectively made me want to cry. They were all over quick. I mean, basically 45 minutes into it, all the games were over. The lines had taken control. And the commanders, Seahawks were up like 28 nothing. Early on the Cardinals and then the Rams were up, what, 21 nothing early on the 49ers. These games were over. So I think the big story of the afternoon was in Lions, commanders, Donald Trump, you know, and I know everybody, okay, you know, stick to football. But they. But to be fair, this came into my world today. This was football. This was football. And then they brought it. All right, let me give you the, in my opinion, the good and the bad of Trump part of a B level game. First of all, the flyover, is it just me or did they get a little close?
- [65:40]
Matt Jones
I thought that was way too close. I saw a picture before, before I saw the flyover. I genuinely thought it was photoshopped with how close it was to Mercedes.
- [65:49]
Drew Franklin
Why was it so close? Normally when you have a flyover, it's way up there. It looked like. It looked like they could just hang from the bottom of the plane. Like, can you imagine if you were sitting at the top right there?
- [66:05]
Laquan Jones
Oh, that's way too close.
- [66:06]
Drew Franklin
It's way too close.
- [66:08]
Matt Jones
Instead of parachuting in, they were just going to hand the ball off to the ref as they came through.
- [66:14]
Drew Franklin
Way too close. And he didn't come in until, like the second quarter, I think, because security and stuff, which I guess was probably a good thing for traffic, et cetera, but you agree? Too close.
- [66:27]
Matt Jones
Yeah. It also just seemed unnecessary. It could have been just a car ride, but whatever. I mean, where are we coming from?
- [66:34]
Drew Franklin
Where did he fly there?
- [66:35]
Matt Jones
Where are we coming from?
- [66:37]
Drew Franklin
Was he coming from dc? Could have been an Uber. I mean, you think he flew?
- [66:43]
Laquan Jones
Yeah.
- [66:43]
Drew Franklin
Come on. He had to have been somewhere else. He couldn't have flown from D.C. to Landover Merrill. I don't know. Why wouldn't he?
- [66:50]
Matt Jones
It's where he lives.
- [66:51]
Drew Franklin
They don't have an airport that can land that thing right next to the stadium, do they?
- [66:55]
Matt Jones
I think they took off. It's a little message like, hey, we'll be there in a minute. Look at our plane. Traffic was bad.
- [67:02]
Drew Franklin
All right, so a little close. Secondly, he did the. What was it when he was speaking in the microphone? Was he, like. What was he doing? Was he doing this? Was he swearing in Marines or something?
- [67:15]
Daniel Jeremiah
I didn't see that.
- [67:16]
Laquan Jones
I saw the Kenny Albert interview. But did he do something?
- [67:18]
Drew Franklin
So he spoke to the crowd, but he was reading something, and I assume it was like somebody was maybe swearing in to be a Marine or to be something. And it said. He said, I state your name. And he read, state your name. Which I don't know what he was doing. Do you know what he was doing?
- [67:38]
Laquan Jones
I don't.
- [67:38]
Drew Franklin
Well, he got booed a lot. The point is he got booed a lot. Which, you know, would you boo? Let's just forget about him. Would you boo someone in that scenario that you didn't like?
- [67:56]
Matt Jones
It depends. I probably wouldn't boo, like, a political figure.
- [67:59]
Drew Franklin
Who would you boo?
- [68:02]
Matt Jones
Someone related to the team we're playing. Okay, so if it's like a celebrity fan or something. Yeah.
- [68:10]
Drew Franklin
How would you boo Taylor Swift? What did she do?
- [68:12]
Laquan Jones
I mean, if she was playing, I would do it. If the Chiefs were playing my team and they showed Taylor Swift, you would boo her?
- [68:17]
Matt Jones
Oh, yeah.
- [68:18]
Drew Franklin
Just supporting her boyfriend. Yes.
- [68:21]
Laquan Jones
Is the enemy for 60 minutes. She's the enemy.
- [68:24]
Matt Jones
I'm booing anyone connected to the other team. I'm not just everyone, but if I feel like it, if they're, like, wearing the jersey of the game.
- [68:30]
Drew Franklin
We're currently watching the video of him getting booed. They had people that were, like, not that far from him because, you know, he's in, like, a suite and he's looking down and there are people that are. Doesn't feel like they're very far, and they're just looking directly at him, booing. And then other people are trying to clap, and then there are people booing the people Clapping.
- [68:54]
Matt Jones
They're just trying to outdo each other.
- [68:56]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And it felt like it was a very intense scene there.
- [69:00]
Matt Jones
And then I thought about the broadcast crew. Who's doing the game? It was Jonathan Vilmus.
- [69:04]
Drew Franklin
Okay, I want to get to that, but are you guys about the interview or.
- [69:07]
Matt Jones
Yes, it's six, seven.
- [69:08]
Drew Franklin
Okay, so just second about the interview. Now, it's interesting that Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilbert, the guy did with the interview. First of all, they're like Fox's D team, right? I mean, they're at least number three. I think they're like the fourth or fifth team, aren't they? Because it's like it's Brady's team, Greg Olson's team. Does Daryl Johnston still do it?
- [69:34]
Matt Jones
Well, there's.
- [69:35]
Laquan Jones
I don't know.
- [69:35]
Drew Franklin
I think I'm going to say. I, I'm used to hearing Kenny Albert call, like, Seahawks, Cardinals. So I'm going to say he's not one of the big teams. Apparently they just found out last night. They were interviewed. I want you to think about that for a minute. All of a sudden you get a call last night, hey, Jonathan, Kenny, get ready to interview the President in front of 25 million people. Don't screw up.
- [70:03]
Matt Jones
There could be booing, by the way, while you're doing it, could be distracted.
- [70:07]
Drew Franklin
That, that would be nerve wracking to me, wouldn't it? You. Because they're not political guys. It's not like, it's not like, you know, that would be a tough interview.
- [70:14]
Matt Jones
That's why I kind of thought it was. It kind of felt weird. Like Jonathan Vilma did like a 6, 7 joke. Then they.
- [70:21]
Drew Franklin
He did 2.
- [70:22]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Then they showed Trump's old football pictures. I'll give Trump credit. They showed when he played football and they asked him how many touchdowns he scored. And I thought, oh, God, here we go. He's going to say 50 years.
- [70:33]
Drew Franklin
He was like, zero.
- [70:34]
Matt Jones
I thought there was a moment. Yeah.
- [70:35]
Drew Franklin
That was maybe the most humble he's ever been.
- [70:40]
Matt Jones
I was waiting on average 5 a game or something. He's like, nope, didn't score.
- [70:43]
Drew Franklin
Why did Jonathan Vilma try two, six.
- [70:46]
Matt Jones
Seven jokes to break the ice of trouble?
- [70:50]
Drew Franklin
Doesn't know what that means.
- [70:51]
Matt Jones
No, but I mean, what you mentioned. Well, you mentioned he's. He's probably does not feel ready for that interview. So, like, I got. I gotta fun this up and break the ice a little bit.
- [71:01]
Drew Franklin
Can I do my impression now of Trump calling the action during because, you know, he had to call a few plays. You ready? Second down. It's a big play. It's a huge play. Watch how he's gonna run the ball. So you ran the ball right there. It was a big play. Big play. Second down. You just did that. Every play was a big play. He just kept going. Big play. They need this right here. Big play.
- [71:26]
Matt Jones
Did you see St. Brown point at him and hit his dance though, from the end zone?
- [71:30]
Drew Franklin
No, I did not.
- [71:30]
Matt Jones
He pointed up at where he was and hit the little multiple that scored.
- [71:34]
Laquan Jones
Did the dance.
- [71:35]
Matt Jones
Okay, so the players were getting into it.
- [71:37]
Drew Franklin
That's good.
- [71:38]
Laquan Jones
I guess it was a 20 point game at the time that big play was happening, that Donald Trump was saying big play.
- [71:46]
Drew Franklin
I don't really know if I'm sounding like him. I think I'm sounding like.
- [71:48]
Matt Jones
I thought you sounded like Howard Purcell when you started and then you went into a little Trump.
- [71:53]
Drew Franklin
It's a big play, mate. Now that. That's a little odd. That's a little like Donald Trump. Anyway, it was interesting that it happened. It's. I'm. I agree with you. It seemed odd. A regular season commander's lines game just to have him there and then of all people, I mean, what Betty nods could I have gotten three months ago that Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma would be interviewing Donald Trump? What odds do you think I could have gotten on that?
- [72:24]
Matt Jones
Oh, it would have been crazy.
- [72:25]
Drew Franklin
Off the chart.
- [72:26]
Matt Jones
What if Vilma just started pressing it on all the issues? Just got real serious enough Commander's lines.
- [72:32]
Drew Franklin
Let's. Let's talk about that would have been one of the more. Yeah, he was just like, we need to talk about. You have decided not to fund SNAP benefits. I'm going to need to know why. Six, seven.
- [72:45]
Matt Jones
Well, whenever the president wasn't in this game, it just seemed like everyone else was punching each other throughout the entire.
- [72:51]
Drew Franklin
Okay, so what about that punch?
- [72:52]
Matt Jones
Which one? There were several.
- [72:54]
Drew Franklin
Well, one player just knocked St. Brown like. Yeah, continuing the. I punch people in helmets.
- [72:59]
Matt Jones
I don't get it. His head moved a little, but it didn't look like it hurt too bad. Full swing. Got went for.
- [73:04]
Drew Franklin
It was a full swing. Dan Campbell announced after the game he had just. He just called the place, didn't tell anybody before the game. He's like, I decided to call the plays this game.
- [73:14]
Matt Jones
So surprised everyone with that one. We had a guy punch a ref. Usually that's pretty frowned upon. I wouldn't punch a ref.
- [73:20]
Drew Franklin
He pushed him. He didn't punch well.
- [73:21]
Matt Jones
He wouldn't have done that either. There were also multiple fights in the. In the crowd. I saw several commanders, Lions fist fights. I don't know what they were serving in Maryland today.
- [73:32]
Drew Franklin
Big game.
- [73:34]
Matt Jones
Everybody was turned up a little bit and fighting all over the place.
- [73:37]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I can understand. I mean, it was a lot going on. You had the President. You had people fighting. You had people dancing. You had a plane nearly hit the stadium that happened to be the President's.
- [73:47]
Matt Jones
That probably didn't even need to take.
- [73:48]
Drew Franklin
Off at all if he had stayed in the place.
- [73:51]
Matt Jones
This is why Dan announced it. He saw everything around him. He's like, now it's when I'm just going to let everyone know I've been calling the place.
- [73:57]
Drew Franklin
It was quite a. It took a game that was otherwise, like not really interesting and made itself something. I'm just going to combine these two NFC west games. I don't care. I just need to say something to you all. When the NFC west plays each other, it's hard for me.
- [74:15]
Matt Jones
Is it because you're worn out from witching hour and then it goes.
- [74:18]
Drew Franklin
It's. Yeah. And it's. It's so far away.
- [74:22]
Matt Jones
It's all other side of the country.
- [74:24]
Drew Franklin
From where I am. And I'm convinced these teams play just other seven times a year. Like when the Cardinals played the Seahawks. I believe this is game five of their series this season. I know I have watched that game at least three or four times.
- [74:41]
Matt Jones
I was actually a little excited. For 49ers Rams, it was just an absolute blowout. That might have been the Rams best win all year. They went up 21. Oh, quickly. Matthew Stafford still looks like he's having his best season.
- [74:54]
Drew Franklin
He's now.
- [74:54]
Matt Jones
I was surprised by that.
- [74:56]
Drew Franklin
You're mvp. If it's between him and Drake May I think they'll pick him because he's been around longer.
- [75:01]
Matt Jones
Maybe I would still lean Drake May if they continue to like win like they are. Seven in a row, five on the road, as we said earlier. But the Stafford when At the start of the year. People question if he gave him play because his back issues. He's having an incredible year.
- [75:15]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Seahawks won by ton. Rams won by a ton. What was your Stafford stat? You gave me a stat earlier that you.
- [75:23]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [75:23]
Laquan Jones
First quarterback since the merger to have three straight games of four plus passing touchdowns and zero interceptions.
- [75:30]
Drew Franklin
Three straight games, four passing touchdowns.
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- [75:32]
Drew Franklin
That's good. Since the merger. I like the stats of the merger.
- [75:35]
Laquan Jones
Same. Just saying. Since the merger.
- [75:37]
Drew Franklin
So just assume, you know, everybody remembers the merger. I guess that was what, 67.
- [75:43]
Laquan Jones
Yeah.
- [75:44]
Matt Jones
Six.
- [75:44]
Drew Franklin
Seven. Where's Jonathan Vilma? Where is he?
- [75:48]
Matt Jones
My favorite stat from this game was jsn had another big game. Guy has a thousand receiving yards. He has as many receiving yards as the entire Tennessee Titans. And two more touchdowns on the season. Yeah, the receivers, the receivers. Not like running backs, but the receivers, wow.
- [76:04]
Drew Franklin
Now that is a great stat.
- [76:06]
Matt Jones
So we got that going for us.
- [76:07]
Drew Franklin
Which is nice though. Sunday Night Football, we just finished a few minutes ago. Steelers beat or Steelers lose to the Chargers 25 to 10. This was the game where I felt like Aaron Rodgers. We talked to karma. This is where the karma hit him. He looked awful and he got angry. It was like bad air and showed up. You know, sometimes I'll be doing a radio show and my mom will text me in the show if she thinks I'm getting worked up. And you know what it says? It's just one word. She'll just say, breathe. She did that last night when Jerry called the football post game show. I got a text from my mom. Breathe. Okay.
- [76:44]
Matt Jones
Very sweet.
- [76:45]
Drew Franklin
Aaron Rodgers needed to breathe today.
- [76:47]
Matt Jones
Needed a text.
- [76:48]
Drew Franklin
He started getting angry. He started yelling at people. He started making bad throws and then looking and going, what. What are you. What's wrong with you? And I felt like Aaron Rodgers needed someone, if he had any friends, to look at him and say, breathe. Because he, he. This was Aaron Rodgers, his worst today.
- [77:03]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Now three out of four, he had some bad throws that Aaron Rodgers does not miss. Wide open, guys. It makes me wonder, you know, he's old and he had that great game. The Flacco game.
- [77:13]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [77:14]
Matt Jones
Was that like my last step? Like I'm picturing an old man watching his kids play in the backyard. And he goes out and he gives him one last. But then his back hurts for the next month. And that was his, his last go at it. I feel like that, that Flacco game was Rogers last good moment. And he's. It's now the decline. He's feeling it well.
- [77:31]
Drew Franklin
And it's. It's a road game. But they had more fans than the Chargers did there. I mean, that, that fate, that stadium was all Pittsburgh fans. It was a bad. It was a bad performance. They're still five and four still. Mike Tomlin, he always has a winning record. You know, the Chargers, Jim. Jim Harbaugh went, went nuts. It seems like he and Justin Herbert, it seems like they're really. They're really buddies. Like, they just seem. They. They seem to really like have a connection.
- [78:02]
Matt Jones
Big Jim's gonna be hitting LA with him going out and getting some milks.
- [78:05]
Drew Franklin
With well, that's another. I don't know where Jim Harbaugh's wife and Madison be or what they talk about either, if they hang out. But do you think the Chargers are a contender?
- [78:16]
Matt Jones
I still worry about their offensive line. It was a little better today, but. But it has been so bad in the past few weeks. I don't think they can reach their long any serious goals in the middle.
- [78:27]
Drew Franklin
For a lot of the game the score was 5 to 3.
- [78:30]
Matt Jones
32 there for a little bit too.
- [78:32]
Drew Franklin
That's. I like a good 3 to 2 game. I like a good random score. They had a score of gummy today, by the way.
- [78:37]
Matt Jones
What was that one?
- [78:38]
Drew Franklin
Seahawks Cardinals was 44 22. That had never happened.
- [78:42]
Matt Jones
Really?
- [78:42]
Drew Franklin
That's surprising. That's one you would have felt like might have happened sometime.
- [78:46]
Laquan Jones
There's two then. Because I think 36, 29 Texans jags was score gummy too. I may be wrong, but you're making that up.
- [78:52]
Drew Franklin
Why do you think that?
- [78:53]
Laquan Jones
I think I saw the scoregami Twitter account tweet that out.
- [78:57]
Drew Franklin
Okay, well, that one again. Both those feel like they might have happened at some point, but at least 4,422 didn't. And then if you want to believe Billy, who may or may not have.
- [79:07]
Laquan Jones
Inserted that sound, 4422 was not a score of me. They got Twitter notes on their score gummy. Tweet that it was a score gummy. That was incorrect.
- [79:17]
Matt Jones
Oh, it was a fake score gummy.
- [79:18]
Drew Franklin
Oh, because they did say that Twitter account got hacked. Right.
- [79:20]
Laquan Jones
The Twitter account is getting all of these wrong. It keeps saying that these are all score gummies. The Jacksonville Houston one was a score gummy.
- [79:28]
Drew Franklin
So you're saying yours was and yours was not.
- [79:31]
Laquan Jones
Yes.
- [79:32]
Drew Franklin
It's been a tough weekend for me. Well, 4422 seemed like to me a score that would have happened.
- [79:38]
Laquan Jones
Yeah, I agree.
- [79:39]
Drew Franklin
But 3629 seems like a score that would have had.
- [79:42]
Laquan Jones
4422 has happened two previous times before today.
- [79:45]
Drew Franklin
So the Twitter account. So now we just can't trust score.
- [79:48]
Laquan Jones
I agree. Yeah, you can't trust it.
- [79:50]
Matt Jones
Did you do your own research on that? Billy can't be trusting all these random accounts.
- [79:53]
Drew Franklin
He was listening to somebody on Rogan who said, by the way, there have been 4422 games before. Never a 3629.
- [80:00]
Laquan Jones
It's the next gen stats before the trial takes away my access.
- [80:04]
Matt Jones
We trust next gen stats still on the trial period.
- [80:08]
Drew Franklin
That's nice.
- [80:08]
Matt Jones
You could probably run that up the ladder and get a log in. Do you think we could get a log in?
- [80:13]
Drew Franklin
You just got to ask.
- [80:14]
Matt Jones
They probably would like for us to have stats, actually. Hey, you guys ever considered using some stats?
- [80:18]
Drew Franklin
By the way, next week, the Week 11 wrap up will be. We will be in Buffalo.
- [80:23]
Matt Jones
Yeah, can't wait.
- [80:25]
Drew Franklin
So we are driving from Lexington to Buffalo like people do. Yep. Going through Cleveland. Erie, Pennsylvania, A place I've never fathomed going through. Never any reason to be there. There that was where Salman Rushdie, when he got stabbed in the eye, they did emergency surgery and saved him in Erie, Pennsylvania.
- [80:46]
Matt Jones
That's exactly what I thought about when you said it. I don't even know what you're talking about.
- [80:51]
Drew Franklin
You know, Salmon Rush is.
- [80:52]
Matt Jones
No, teach me about it.
- [80:53]
Drew Franklin
He wrote that book where they had. They put a. Like a jihad on his. On his life. Maybe that's not the word I wanted, but he wrote the Satanic verses and then he went in hiding for like 20 years. And then he came back and was like, I'm not gonna go in hiding anymore. I'm gonna live a public life. He did for a while. Then he got stabbed. There's a great book about it called Knife, which I highly recommend. Came out last year. It's not very long. Really, really good book about it. And they saved him in Erie, Pennsylvania at the Erie Hospital.
- [81:24]
Matt Jones
See, this is.
- [81:25]
Drew Franklin
So we're not gonna go by and talk to him about it.
- [81:27]
Matt Jones
These are things I can learn when we go to Erie in Cleveland.
- [81:30]
Drew Franklin
What do you think would happen if we just shut up, said we just wanted to pay our respects for how well you all handled that.
- [81:38]
Matt Jones
And can we plug in and do a podcast here? We're on a podcast trip. It will be fun doing. We'll have to find a good place to do the podcast. That'll be fun.
- [81:46]
Drew Franklin
So we're gonna start doing our own research. Billy, that's one of the things you have to do is figure out where we do these shows. Okay. We need to start working on that. But we will be in Buffalo next week, so looking forward. If you have suggestions, send us a message. And Drew, fun stuff, my man.
- [82:02]
Matt Jones
Yeah, another fun one. I'm glad I didn't have to watch my Titans today. So I'm smiling tonight after another fun.
- [82:07]
Drew Franklin
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