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Jim Kwik
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Amy Purdy
I wasn't high, wasn't wired, just clear.
Jim Kwik
I knew what I needed to do and how to do it. I know kung fu. Show me. Welcome back to the Kwik Brain Podcast. I am your brain coach and your host, Jim Kwik. And today we're going to talk about bouncing forward in your life. And I'm so excited to be here with a friend. She's a best selling author. She's a medalist also as well in the Paralympics. I got to watch you perform years and years ago on Dancing with the Stars. And if I was to read your whole resume, it would just be the whole 20 minutes. Amy Purdy. Thank you.
Amy Purdy
Thank you. Yeah, I'm so excited to be here. This is great.
Jim Kwik
Yeah. Our audience, our clients and our community, they were really. I was sitting in the audience. It was unfortunately the only one that I've sat in the past few days. But the range of emotions, I mean, people, in one breath they went from crying to laughing. And it's kind of that transformation. Right. In life we have these ebbs and these flows. But I'd love to start. For people who aren't familiar with your story, where did it begin?
Amy Purdy
Gosh, you know, really, it began 20 years ago. I lost both my legs below the knees when I was 19. And at the time, I was a competitive snowboarder. I grew up in Vegas, which isn't where people expect a snowboarder to come from, but we had ski resorts outside of Vegas. And my goal was to travel the world, snowboard and just live this full life. And all of a sudden, one day I started to feel sick. Within 24 hours, I was in the hospital on life support. I was given less than a 2% chance of living. I fought for my life. I went into septic shock, ended up losing my legs below the knees. I lost my kidney function. I lost the hearing in my left ear. And I lost the life that I knew. And so I had to really figure out how to find myself again, like find where I fit in the world again and also how to do the things that I loved again. And went on this crazy mission of just trying to do the things that I love, just trying to get back into snowboarding. I was a massage therapist. So I went back to work and then really just, you know, tried to figure out where I belonged and who I was now, and went on this journey that took me so much further than I ever could have imagined, including onto your stage here at your event. And, yeah, there's so much to talk about of how I got there, but it's been a journey that I never could have expected.
Jim Kwik
Now, when you go through adversity. Because I don't want to give the. Not the end, but where you currently are, because for me, my struggles turned into a strength. A brain injury, learning difficulties, losing loved ones to Alzheimer's. But with challenge comes the change, but also the change of how you see yourself. You're on this path, and then there's an incident. But it's interesting. In the movies, it's always like it kind of shapes who you are.
Amy Purdy
Oh, it completely does. I mean, exactly. I love that you said what you just said, which is. I mean, you went through what you went through and being told that you had learning disabilities, and now here you have an empire teaching people how to learn. Like, you used your challenge to get ahead, and that's exactly what bounce forward means to me. It's not bouncing back to who you think you're supposed to be or who you were. It's taking the challenge that you're given and figuring out how you can use it so that you can learn from it, so you can grow from it, and so you can actually, you know, be a better, stronger version of yourself. And that's what I had to do with my legs. I mean, my legs are a huge disability, and yet, at the same time, they've been my greatest asset. They've been my greatest strength. Like, they've. They've made me into the person that I am today. They're what's given me the fuel to figure out challenge to figure out how to snowboard again, to figure out how to do the stuff. I love to figure out how to dance on prosthetic legs. Like, it's the challenge that fuels us. And then you really figure out what you're made of, and you realize you're made of so much more than you ever could have imagined.
Jim Kwik
I just got goosebumps. I call them truth bumps.
Amy Purdy
Yeah, I love that. I love that. When I get goosebumps, I always say it's because I just felt the truth. Like someone said something or I thought something. Whatever it is, that just gave me a sense of truth. So I. I love that. Truth bumps.
Jim Kwik
Truth bumps. Maybe we could go into a little bit more detail about a specific story arc that really kind of define not Define, but maybe put you on the path. We have these throughout life. Right. I'm sure people watching or if they're listening, they've had something that sparked, know, different stage. Because it's never just this kind of easy path. I don't know. I don't know one strong person that had an easy life.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
You know, at all.
Amy Purdy
I agree. I mean that's, that's how you find your strength. You don't even know your strength that you have until you're forced to use it, until you're forced to find it. You know, I think a lot of people come up to me too, and they say, how have you done it? Like, not like, how did you get through losing your legs and everything that came with that? And I mean, and people say there's no way that I could do that. You know, I couldn't, I couldn't handle that. Well, you don't think that you can handle it, but you just don't know until you're, you're forced to deal with it and then you find strength and you, you know, resilience is pulled from different places. So we oftentimes think that people are just born resilient, like, oh, that's a resilient person, or wow, that person has a lot of grit. Like it's kind of just an internal thing that we innately have. But I feel like at least in my case, it's. I've pulled from different things that have helped me become resilient. So, you know, pulling from support from my family or, you know, different experiences, I've had that like, gratitude, like just one of my biggest things when I was in the hospital that helped me get through the initial shock of losing my legs was just being so grateful to be alive because I was so close to losing my life. I mean, I was, you know, I was in a coma and had a near death experience and given less than a 2% chance of living. And, and so to be alive, just to kind of pull from that of like, oh my gosh, I have a second chance at life. Like just to allow myself to feel the gratitude of that that helped give me resilience to just continue on another day. And I've leaned on that gratitude throughout my whole life.
Jim Kwik
And then your perception of it, because a lot of us, and I'm guilty of it also is. It's easy to go into a spiral of darkness, right. Despair, depression, losing a sense of hope and what keeps you going in terms of purpose because without reasons, you're not a strong enough Reason we're not going to get the kind of results, you know. And for. For me, when I was going through my challenges, I was called the kid with the broken brain. Right? The boy with a broken brain. That was my. That's my identity. But how do you. How do you change that identity? And also, you used a word during the presentation that really stood out. It was acceptance. Like, what. What is. What does acceptance mean to you?
Amy Purdy
It's, you know, there's things that we can change in our lives, and there's things that we can't. And for me, it's very distinct. It's like, I cannot change the fact that I lost my legs. Having a kidney transplant. My dad gave me a kidney the week of my 21st birthday. You know, that's something. When I was in kidney failure. It's like, I cannot change this no matter how hard I try. And the resistance, like, trying to change it, wishing you were something different, that's the hard part. It's not the. The challenge itself that's difficult. It's the resistance against it that makes it so hard. So acceptance really is a choice, and it's choosing to embrace what is and try to lean into it and use it. These are the cards I've been dealt. How can I use them? What can I do with them? And for me, I've realized, oh, my gosh, I can do so much. You don't need legs to snowboard. You don't need legs to dance. You don't need legs to travel the world or do the things that you want to do. But luckily, I allowed myself to explore that instead of just immediately putting limits on myself, like, oh, I lost my legs. I can't do those things. You know, for me, being limitless, it's. It's visualizing your greatest potential. Like, it's. It's. It's. Who would you be if you didn't stop yourself? And if you're. If you didn't get in your own way, like, what would you be? You know, what would you do? What do you see yourself doing? Visualization is huge for me. In fact, I have a second book coming out called Bounce Forward, and I realized, love the title. And it's. And it's tools. It's the tools that helped me survive my worst days, really. But then it's also the tools that helped me thrive to my greatest moments as well. I actually realized the same tools that were helping me survive were the same tools that were helping me reach my goals as well.
Jim Kwik
And so was visualization one of Those.
Amy Purdy
Tools, visualization is one of them. And also the name of that chapter is Limited to Limitless. I love that.
Jim Kwik
And I love it, because the truth bumps again.
Amy Purdy
Well, and, you know, and I was thinking, being here at your event, too, like, what makes you limitless? And I think for me, it's being able to visualize a grander version of yourself. Like, what you really, really want to be in your heart before you get in your own way, before you tell yourself you can't do it. And visualization was huge for me. When I was in the hospital and I lost my legs, I would visualize myself snowboarding. And I would visualize it so strong, not even knowing how I would do it, not even knowing if I'd ever be able to do it again. But I would visualize myself snowboarding, so real and so strong that I would feel the wind against my face. I would feel my heart beating. I'd feel my muscles twitching. It would be so real to me that I didn't know how I would do it. I just knew that I was going to do it again. And that, I think, made it real to my brain. Right. And I went on this path of belief that some way I'm going to figure it out. And I had to build my own feet to be able to do it, because there weren't any feet out there for snowboarding. I had to, like, you know, it didn't just happen. Like, I had to work really hard to figure it out, but just the fact that I felt it and I saw it, like, that was enough to believe that I could do it. And so I think, you know, visualization's key to being limitless. And it's one of the tools that I talk about in this book as well.
Jim Kwik
So you imagined it. You know, you stepped into it. You felt the movement, you felt the wind, the sun on your face. So you kind of see it. You imagine it, you see you believed in it, but then you also. You work daily for it.
Amy Purdy
Yeah, right.
Jim Kwik
Because that's. Often some people will stop at just visualizing something, but it wouldn't inspire necessarily action sometimes.
Amy Purdy
Absolutely. I mean, that's really the next step. Right. So you have this vision, which I think when we're young, we allow ourselves to daydream all the time. And I think we all daydream. Right. But we don't always believe our daydreams or we don't always chase our daydreams. We talked about chasing our dreams, but I think it's really chasing or allowing even our daydreams. To become reality. Because, you know, you sit back and you see yourself doing something, but then you immediately get in your own way and you say, well, I can't do that. I don't have legs. I can't snowboard, I can't do that. Or I'm too old, or, like, you know, my. I'm past my prime. I can't do. I can't chase the thing. I can't do the thing that I want to do. Like, we get in our own way. But if you just allow yourself to actually, like, get lost in that daydream and believe, like, what if I actually can do this? Like, what would it take to do this and start kind of coming up with that game plan? Like, well, first I gotta. I gotta take this first step. And for me, it was, I gotta take this first. I gotta take this first step, actually. And then it's like, okay, now I gotta figure out if there are feet so that I can do this and others not. So now I gotta figure out how to make my own feet so I can do this. And then I got to get on a board and figure out, is it going to work? And, you know, it's. You have to take the action, Right. But it's amazing because once you do, once you realize that you take action on this belief that you have in yourself, not even the belief in the outcome. So it's not the belief that you necessarily can do it. Like, I didn't know that I could do it. It's more the belief. It's believing in the possibilities of it.
Jim Kwik
Yeah.
Amy Purdy
So when you believe in the possibilities and then you go on this, like, curiosity mission of just figuring out if it's possible, and then you do it, right? And you go, oh, my gosh, like, we are capable of so much.
Jim Kwik
And then you think, what else can I do?
Amy Purdy
Totally. So once you do it once, then. Exactly. And so for me, you know, just when I think about speaking, like, being on stage speaking, I mean, I'm. I'm an introvert, and I love you so much because I think you're an introvert as well. Right. But yet, look what we do. And it's like, totally outside of our comfort zone. But the same with me. So I'm very much so, like a learner and a thinker and not really someone who likes to speak in front of people. And yet the first time I got invited to speak on stage, well, not the first time, but actually, the first few times were rough. The first probably a hundred times were rough. But then I got Invited to speak at TED and do just the eight minute TED Talk talk. And it was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But I visualized myself in the hospital. When I was in the hospital, I saw myself on stage telling people, everything's going to be okay.
Jim Kwik
Yeah.
Amy Purdy
Even before I knew that everything was going to be okay for myself, I just had this knowing everything's going to be okay. And I, I want other people to know this about themselves. And then here I found myself on the TED stage, you know, not necessarily sharing that exact message, but just like, oh my gosh, I made it here. Like I saw myself doing this. I took the steps to get here and now here I. Here I am. So once you do it once, it's, you know, then you, you realize the power of it. You can replicate it throughout your life and, and you just realized truly how limitless and powerful you are.
Jim Kwik
Yeah. It's one of those things where it saddens me because then the opportunities were where we shrunk. Right. Or we dimmed our light because we're so concerned about what other people think or because it's shining in somebody else's eyes. And the imagination is interesting being able to get out of that. Because if people truly understood how powerful their mind is, they wouldn't think, imagine, think, like say something they didn't want to be true.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
That's how powerful our mind is. I mean, so many, you know, the, the default is like in a situation to shrink what's possible to fit their minds as opposed to talking about what you're talking about. Using your imagination, your creativity to expand your mind to fit all that's really possible.
Amy Purdy
Yeah, right.
Jim Kwik
I mean, especially when it comes to your health. Because there's this phrase that says, you know, a healthy person has a thousand dreams.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
But a sick person or an unhealthy person has one just, just to get healthy. Yeah, healthy again.
Amy Purdy
Oh, yeah, right.
Jim Kwik
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And I imagine I was at this season's Dancing with the Stars premiere to live as a guest with Derek and Jules. And I remembered, actually, he popped in my head and maybe my heart, because that's such an extraordinary story. Right? Like, how did. How did that happen? And how do you. How do you train to. I mean, you're an athlete. Snowboarder.
Amy Purdy
Right, Right.
Jim Kwik
But how do you do that to dance? Because I'm very. Also, if you're an introvert, how do you even do that live with millions of people watching with a live studio audience?
Amy Purdy
Yeah. I mean, first, you know, I never could have imagined I'd get asked to do the show. I had never danced before. I didn't grow up dancing. I didn't even do ballet as a kid, so I had no idea that I could dance.
Jim Kwik
But why do you say yes? So why do you say yes to that, then?
Amy Purdy
Out of curiosity.
Jim Kwik
Wow.
Amy Purdy
Really? Out of the curiosity of what was possible. Just. And plenty of fear. At first, I said no. I was excited about the opportunity, but at first I said no because I was like, I can't even point my toes, and I don't want to make a fool out of myself. I don't want to go out there and actually show that you can. I can't do this now. I just told the world and everybody out there who has a disability, this isn't possible now. I just told the world, like, to believe what you already believe, which is that you can't do that much when you have a disability. And I didn't want that. I wanted to confirm the possibilities. And so I ended up then saying yes and just deciding, you know what? This is a journey and it's an adventure, and I'll figure it out. And we did. We figured it out. Every single week, you're given, you know, a different dance, a different dance every week with different movements that are required in your legs and your ankles. You actually have to use your ankles and stuff for some of these dances that I don't have ankles. And. And so Derek and I was. I mean, we were scrambling every week to, you know, order feet. We would be on the phone with different prosthetic companies.
Jim Kwik
And also the preface to that, you were competing right before the show even started.
Amy Purdy
Right?
Jim Kwik
You have to share that.
Amy Purdy
Yeah. So I was. So I was asked to do Dancing with the Stars two weeks before my first Paralympic race, which was in sochi, Russia, in 2014. And we didn't think it was possible for me to do the show because we were like, well, I'm going to be in Russia. And they said, well, we'll fly Derek out there. And they actually flew Derek to Russia. I would snowboard. I had four days to practice on the Olympic course, in the Paralympic course. I'd practice for four hours in the morning, and then I would wait.
Jim Kwik
Were you a dancer before this?
Amy Purdy
No.
Jim Kwik
Okay.
Amy Purdy
No, there was no dancing before this. Actually. Derek and I met in a studio in Colorado where I live, in Summit county, in this little town where I live. And we just met in a studio with cameras. I didn't even think there was. I didn't even think I was going on the show until I showed up to the studio one day after snowboarding and they had cameras on me. Derek was there and I was like, I was still in my beanie. It's so funny if you go back and watch the very first episode, I'm in my beanie fresh off the mountain. I had just told my parents, I think I'm going to be on Dancing with the Stars and walked into the studio, met Derek. There are all the, you know, the whole camera crew. And I was like, this is happening. Like, I'm on Dancing with the Stars. This is crazy. And then I flew from there to Russia. Derek flew there as well. And I would snowboard for four hours each morning on the course that we were competing on. And then I would meet Derek in this old Russian hotel in the basement of the hotel and dance with him for like three hours each night. We only did that for either three or four half days. And then he flew back to the States. I competed. And then 72 hours after I competed, I was live on Dancing with the Stars in la, dancing my first dance, and totally jet lagged, you know, couldn't feel my feet. Had only like three half days to learn my very first dance. The other celebrities on the show get about three weeks to prepare for your first dance. And so, I mean, I was flying by the seat of my pants and just didn't want to be the first one eliminated. And every single week was incredibly challenging at learning a new dance. Trying to figure out my feet, trying to figure for both of us, trying to figure out what I could do. He would create these amazing, gorgeous dances around the things that I could do. He's genius, you know that because, you know, he would look at my strengths and really lean into those instead of trying to force me kind of too far out of my comfort zone. He would actually like, just, you know, I'd be like, standing in a certain way and he'd like the way that I was standing. And he'd say, okay, let's add that into the dance. It's like, let's add the things.
Jim Kwik
And that's creative, right? You talk about creativity.
Amy Purdy
Yeah. Oh, so creative. You know, he'd piece. He'd literally create these dances around the things that I could do. And that, that, I mean, it pushed me big time out of my comfort zone. But at the same time, he was. He was genius with how he decided to create these dances. But every week was so hard. Every week was a different dance. Every week.
Jim Kwik
Does that require different feet?
Amy Purdy
Different feet, right. Yeah. So, I mean, for example, one of the hardest dances that I did, and you'd be surprised probably, because people will think that the fast dances are really hard. The hardest dance for me was the slowest dance of all, which was the waltz. And it's because you actually have this rise and fall of your ankles. And that's what, that's what allows you to get this, like, movement that you're trying to get with the waltz. Well, my ankles don't do that, so I had to lunge and kind of create this look of this rise and fall. And my quads were so sore. My legs were so sore by the end of the week because I was literally doing, you know, you practice like seven hours a day. So I would be lunging for like seven hours a day, but also balancing on my feet really slowly. And I only have one piece of carbon fiber, so, you know, the Average foot has 150 bones and muscles for balancing. I've got one piece of carbon fiber and that's it. So I'm trying to balance, you know, on this one thing that doesn't. It's like I'm balancing from my hips and from my core instead of balancing from my feet and going really, really slow and trying to look really graceful and not look like I'm kind of hanging on. And I mean, that dance was so hard, but every dance was, you know, once we get through that week, then the next week would be a whole different dance with a whole different requirement of ankle motions. So we would get creative. And there was a dance where I had to point my toes, the Argentine tango. And you actually get judged on how well you can point your toes. And I can't point my toes. But I saw these swimming feet in a magazine and I called the company, ordered them. At first, they didn't give them to me because they were like, these are made for swimming, they're not made for dancing. And so I called back and I said, well, can I get these feet for dancing or can I get these feet for swimming? And they sent them to me, and I was like, yes. And then realized I could balance on the very tips of the toes and get these really pretty pointed toes and straight lines that I needed. And I believe that was my first 10 on the show. And so, you know, going back to the beginning of this, when you were talking about, like, using our challenges like here, that was my greatest maybe disability on the show, is that I couldn't point my toes. And then we found out a way for me to point my toes, and then I. It ended up, you know, getting me tens and to where I almost won the show. It's like we used the thing that was the most challenging, and we figured it out.
Jim Kwik
It's kind of like a limit became. Helped you become more limitless.
Amy Purdy
Yes.
Jim Kwik
Because it forced you to look at. And be more creative and look at possibilities, use your imagination.
Amy Purdy
It really did. It really did. Yeah. Instead of just kind of accept. I mean, and then going back to accepting. Yes, there's accepting what is. There's accepting the things you can't change, and you just have to go, this is what it is. You know, I can only do what I can do. But then there's trying to find those limits. Like, but maybe we can figure this out. Like, maybe there's something out there and that's kind of the exciting part of life. Right? Like, we can look at every challenge like that, whatever it is, not just the challenges that hit us, but, like, the challenges that we go after. Those are hard and they challenge you. Like, if you want to be, Start a business or start speaking or write a book or whatever it may be. It's like you are going to be deeply challenged. But the fun part is, like, maybe there's a way. Like, may. Like, maybe we can figure something else out here. Like, maybe there is something we can do. You know, there's all these. I just think there's all this possibility in life that we get blind to when we're just a little bit too, you know, tunnel vision on what we believe we can do and be. We have to kind of break that down and go, wait a second. There's this whole world of possibility that. That we can be. And there's no real. You know, there's no real. Like, the only truth is, like, what you feel inside it. There's no truth of, like, oh, you lost your legs, you can't do this, or you have a learning disability. You can't do that. Like, that's just. Okay, let's just put. None of that is truth. You know, I think truth is what comes from the inside of what you feel you can do.
Jim Kwik
And then. And trusting that also, because it takes the acceptance and the trust. Right. Like I was doing. I was having a conversation with someone about intuition, and it came up where intuition speaks to you in statements. Fear and anxiety speak to you in questions. And it's almost like what you're explaining to me interpret is almost like the problem is not always a problem. The problem is how we're approaching the problem. Our attitudes about the problem, you know, our perception, our assumptions about the problem.
Amy Purdy
Exactly. Yeah. And I mean. And problems are hard. I mean, I want to get that across to you because it's not like. I mean, like, I have gone through a lot of challenges. And in fact, a recent injury that was major even for me, more major than losing my legs in the first place, which was. It happened six years ago. I injured my popliteal artery and my femoral artery, and it was all during COVID I ended up having 10 surgeries, fighting my way back to walking again. I'm still in that journey, actually, of trying to get back to where I was. And so challenges. That was an incredibly dark time in my life. But it also taught me the most. It's how I learned to get through grief. It's how I learned to get through anxiety. It's how I learned to believe again in the possibilities, not knowing what I'd be able to do. But I realized kind of in that journey, and I. The book is actually a lot about that journey, is that healing and recovery journey that I was going through with this injury. But I realized at that time that we actually need problems. Because when you do the act of problem solving, that's actually what fires you up. I realized in some of my darkest days, I would have moments of happiness, and I would think, why am I happy? What just happened? How am I happy today? And I'd look at it and I'd think, oh, it's because I was actively problem solving. I was actively trying to solve a problem, and I would get so lost in it. And it would be fulfilling just by the act of trying to solve the problem, not necessarily even solving it. So anyways, I actually think we need problems in order to kind of find happiness in different depths of ourselves, if that makes sense.
Jim Kwik
Problems is a pure evidence that we're alive. And I don't think the goal has ever been. Did not have problems. Yeah, you Know, but you're right. It's kind of like the emotional mental weights that, that make us stronger.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
You know, and that's. You're a living example that your struggles can become strengths. Right. Adversity could be almost an advantage.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
Like when you.
Amy Purdy
Oh, big time.
Jim Kwik
I mean, would you people hear a lot about post traumatic stress? We don't hear a lot about post traumatic growth coming on the other side. And, and I'm sure some of our listeners or viewers, they've been through a situation they wouldn't wish upon anybody, but yet there's a grace that they, they wouldn't change it for themselves. Like, I wouldn't change. I mean, I didn't want my brain injury when it happened. I didn't want to be bullied every day called slow, every day different and the challenge and not be, you know, I always shrink down because then we bullied or I wouldn't be called my class because I never knew. Like, but I wouldn't change it now.
Amy Purdy
Right.
Jim Kwik
There's a grace to that. Right? Like acceptance. There's a grace to that.
Amy Purdy
Absolutely. Yeah, there is. And that's. I mean, I wouldn't change my situation either. You know, losing my legs and it's been a lot. I mean, I lost my legs. I had a kidney transplant the week of my 21st birthday, then went through 20 years ago injury again. And as hard as it was during the time, for sure, going through all of that, at this point, I can look back and say that I wouldn't change it because all the things that I learned along the way and, and you can choose to learn those things. Like those are skills, you know, and that's kind of going back to what I said initially. Like, I think a lot of people think that they're just, you're either born resilient or you're not, or you're born strong or you're not. But no, you can learn the skills and kind of make the choices to help you see challenges as opportunities to see your problems in a little bit of a different way to reframe situations so that you can get through them easier. There's a whole kind of toolbox there and skill set there. And it's something that I've just learned through experience. But then I've found that is also backed by science, which is so cool. It's all the stuff that have helped me and that I'm excited to help others with too.
Jim Kwik
So what would you say as we wrap up, somebody's going through a dark time, they're going through a storm, you know, some. Some kind of difficulty or a demand, some kind of big, maybe an adversity, a struggle, you know, and they're maybe at the point where they're just losing a little hope. Well, what would you say to that person? And I know Your book has 21 tools, so I highly recommend that you get your copy.
Amy Purdy
Yeah, gosh, I. You know, and there's so many things that I could say, but I think first of all, just give yourself grace, because a. Problems like we were saying, they are the human experience. It's not like we're supposed to be on this perfect straight path and then you're knocked off your path. And that's a bad thing. It's like this is part of the human experience. Detours are. So first, give yourself grace to be where you are and actually be present in where you are and pull as much strength as you can from where you are. So whether that's your family that's helping you or this doctor that you really like, or whoever it may be who's around you that you can be grateful for, try to find some gratitude in just where you are. And then allow yourself to believe in the possibilities, even not knowing the outcome. Just allow yourself to get lost in daydream and for once, just allow yourself to believe. Maybe. Maybe that is possible. I don't know how, but if you feel it inside, you'll find a way. So it's just kind of having this belief that there's more out there for you, that this isn't the end of the road, and allowing yourself to get curious and. And kind of follow those passions and those beliefs and that whatever makes you kind of feel good, eventually you find your way through it. It took me six years after this injury to walk again. And I lost snowboarding. I lost dancing. Let me see. Emotional, but. But maybe not forever, right? But I've found so much through it.
Jim Kwik
Yeah.
Amy Purdy
I threw myself into speaking. I found that I can do that, you know, and. And there's just. There's so many other detours. So it's. It's knowing that when you're challenged, it's not the end of the road. And there's so much worth fighting for.
Jim Kwik
You know, if everything happened the way we wish it would happen, then you wouldn't be the person that you should be proud to be, helping millions of people. Because I think the life you live are the lessons that you teach, you know, so. And you never know who's. Who's watching or listening, you know, and needs to hear that exact message. I saw that with people. I talk to people viscerally. I get the truth once again last night when you gave your keynote that people's lives are going to be totally different because you're here. That there's a world that exists solely because Amy Purdy is in it. And I just want to thank you so much. I really encourage everybody to get their copy of the book. In fact, go out there and get three copies, one for yourself. And you have to give this gift to other people because these are the things that. I mean, what matters more than this? I mean we talk about acceptance, gratitude, belief in yourself, creativity, your imagination, your perception, persistence. Right. And a reminder that if you like anybody who's listening your story, they would been. They would fine. If you just wanted to not do any of this. Right? Because like. Because. And you'll be told you could with that story and nothing would be different. But if you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them.
Amy Purdy
Absolutely right.
Jim Kwik
And you know, and you embody what it means in my mind to be limitless. Where can people get their copy of the book?
Amy Purdy
So you can get the copy at my website. So it's amypurdy.com bouncingforward book and it also will be available at bookstores as well.
Jim Kwik
Fantastic.
Amy Purdy
Yeah.
Jim Kwik
Well, thank you so much for the gift of you. There are people struggling right now. We never even know the battles people are facing, especially on social media. And I'm speechless. I could talk like, but I'm done. I just want to say thank you so much. Well, thank you and thank you for the communities. Please everyone support this book because it's going to change the person you love and I think it's going to change the world also. And I believe it.
Air Date: February 2, 2026
Guest: Amy Purdy – Paralympic medalist, author, inspirational speaker
In this episode of Kwik Brain, Jim Kwik sits down with Amy Purdy, best-selling author, Paralympic snowboarder, and resilience advocate, to explore how adversity can be transformed into limitless strength. The conversation focuses on Amy’s journey from losing both legs at 19 to achieving extraordinary success, the mindset tools that fueled her recovery and achievements, and actionable advice for anyone striving to break through their own limitations.
Amy’s Life-Altering Illness
"I had to really figure out how to find myself again, like find where I fit in the world again and also how to do the things that I loved again." (Amy Purdy, 01:49)
The Journey to Rediscovery
Both Jim and Amy drew parallels between their struggles (Jim’s brain injury; Amy’s amputation) as catalysts for personal growth.
"With challenge comes the change, but also the change of how you see yourself." (Jim Kwik, 03:11)
Amy explains that her disability became her asset and driving force:
"My legs are a huge disability, and yet… they've been my greatest strength." (Amy, 04:24)
The Source of Resilience
Amy debunks the myth that resilience is innate, attributing her strength to learned tools, gratitude for survival, and support systems.
“You don’t even know the strength that you have until you’re forced to use it.” (Amy, 05:41)
Gratitude was key:
"I was so grateful to be alive because I was so close to losing my life." (Amy, 06:21)
Acceptance as a Superpower
"It's not the challenge itself that's difficult. It's the resistance against it that makes it so hard. So acceptance really is a choice." (Amy, 08:23)
Power of Visualization
Visualization was one of Amy’s primary tools for success, especially during recovery:
"When I was in the hospital...I would visualize myself snowboarding, so real and strong that I would feel the wind against my face...I just knew that I was going to do it again." (Amy, 11:01)
This intense visualization fostered belief and action, not just wishful thinking; action is an essential next step.
From Daydreams to Action
“We talk about chasing our dreams, but I think it’s really chasing or allowing even our daydreams. To become reality.” (Amy, 12:36)
On Possibility and Creativity
“It’s not the belief that you necessarily can do it. Like, I didn’t know that I could do it. It’s more the belief. It’s believing in the possibilities of it.” (Amy, 14:09)
Saying Yes Out of Curiosity
“I didn’t want to go out there and actually show that you can’t do this. I wanted to confirm the possibilities." (Amy, 18:44)
Behind-the-Scenes Adaptation
Amy and her partner Derek Hough constantly innovated, sourcing and creating new prosthetics for each dance:
“I would be lunging for like seven hours a day, but also balancing on my feet really slowly. And I only have one piece of carbon fiber...The average foot has 150 bones and muscles for balancing. I’ve got one piece of carbon fiber and that’s it.” (Amy, 23:13)
Turning limitations into strengths, Amy used “swimming feet” to achieve toe points and her first perfect score.
Learning from Weekly Challenges
Reframing Adversity
Both Jim and Amy discuss how the act of problem-solving itself is fulfilling, even if the solution isn’t yet found.
“I actually think we need problems in order to kind of find happiness and different depths of ourselves.” (Amy, 29:11)
Amy’s serious second injury forced her to confront grief and anxiety anew, ultimately yielding growth and deeper understanding.
Stress and Growth
“If you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them.” (Jim Kwik, 36:43)
Grace and Gratitude in Difficult Times
Belief in Possibilities and Curiosity
"Just allow yourself to believe in the possibilities, even not knowing the outcome." (Amy, 33:49)
Skill-building Through Challenges
“Truth bumps” – Jim and Amy’s term for getting goosebumps when hearing powerful truths.
(Jim: 04:52, Amy: 04:56)
“You don’t need legs to snowboard. You don’t need legs to dance. You don’t need legs to travel the world.”
(Amy, 09:02)
On Creativity:
“He would create these amazing, gorgeous dances around the things that I could do. He’s genius... he would look at my strengths and really lean into those.” (Amy on Derek Hough, 21:27)
On Acceptance:
“There’s accepting the things you can’t change...but maybe we can figure this out...Maybe there’s something out there and that’s kind of the exciting part of life.” (Amy, 26:13)
The episode closes with a powerful reminder that the lessons learned through adversity can become a gift to the world. Amy urges listeners to give themselves grace, lean into possibility, and recognize that the skills of resilience, acceptance, creativity, and belief are learnable by anyone.
For more from Amy Purdy and to get her new book “Bounce Forward”:
Quote to Remember:
“What matters more than this? Acceptance, gratitude, belief in yourself, creativity, your imagination, your perception, persistence.” (Jim Kwik, 35:31)
The conversation is warm, motivating, and practical, blending Amy’s vulnerable storytelling with Jim’s actionable mindset coaching. The episode is packed with hope, wisdom, and real-world tools for moving from limited to limitless—no matter your starting point.