How Desi Perkins Manifested Designing Sunglasses for Beyonce

Summary

LA PLATICA Episode 215: How Desi Perkins Manifested Designing Sunglasses for Beyonce

Date: October 6, 2025 | Hosts: Josh Leyva & Sebastian Robles (“Sebas”), with guest co-host Stephen | Guest: Desi Perkins

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Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, OG influencer and entrepreneur Desi Perkins sits down with her longtime friends and fellow internet pioneers, hosts Sebas and Josh, for an unfiltered conversation about origin stories, influencer culture, family, business, overcoming adversity, and how manifestation led to designing custom eyewear for Beyonce. The episode is filled with nostalgia, laughter, and real talk about the highs and lows of the social media industry—plus insights into motherhood, relationship longevity, and Desi’s business evolution. Longtime partner Stephen also joins, bringing extra warmth and behind-the-scenes takes.

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Episode Structure & Key Segments

1. The Social Media OGs: Reflecting on a Changing Industry

[03:37 – 06:24]

• The hosts and Desi reminisce about meeting in the early days of YouTube and Instagram—before influencers were mainstream.
• Only a handful of creators populated the brand trip circuit, creating deep bonds:
  Desi: “At the time, it was just us... now there’s so many influencers, you can have 20 million followers and I've never heard of them."
• They contrast the early days (search-based, purposeful content) with today’s endless scroll and algorithm-driven discovery.
• Memorable quote:
  Desi, [06:09]: “At the time, people were searching for specific things. It wasn’t a time of scrolling.”

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2. OG Bond: Friendship, Scheduling, and Mom Brain

[07:03 – 09:40]

• Desi discusses juggling being a mother, entrepreneur, and friend, joking about needing her assistant to keep her schedule straight ("mom brain").
• The hosts gush about Desi’s life accomplishments, and Desi jokes she’ll come on the show whenever she needs a self-esteem boost.
• Notable exchange:
  Stephen, [10:02]: “You’ve, like, built a legacy around yourself and these brands... you’re achieving it.”
  Desi, [10:20]: “I’m gonna come on this podcast all the time. Anytime I’m feeling some type of way...”

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3. The Myth of “Balance” & Defining Priorities

[10:32 – 11:51]

• Desi candidly admits that "balance" is a myth; instead, she sets priorities that ebb and flow week to week—sometimes work, sometimes family.
• Desi, [10:32]: “I’ve learned to accept there’s no such thing as balance. There are things that will take priority.”
• The group discusses boundaries versus balance, and the pressure moms especially feel about expectations.

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4. Centered & Grounded: Family & Roots

[13:19 – 18:22]

• Desi shares how motherhood and knowing her values have brought her contentment.
• Puerto Vallarta is a recurring theme—a source of grounding and multi-generational joy for her family:
  Desi, [14:17]: “That’s where we’re from. Every year we go... longer and longer. Pretty soon, I’m just going to stay there.”
• Heartwarming anecdotes of trips, her kids’ love for Mexico, and passing on cross-border traditions.

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5. Standing Up For What’s Right

[19:26 – 23:03]

• Desi shares a story of confronting a rude partner at a L’Oreal event—standing up for a stranger, only to discover it was part of a social experiment/skit.
• Desi, [21:30]: “That girl is way too cute for you to be treating her like that. Don’t be a fucking asshole.”
• This and other stories illustrate her willingness to defend those who can’t defend themselves—and the signature “finger” gesture her daughter has picked up.

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6. Love, Longevity & Relationship ‘Secrets’

[24:00 – 27:20]

• Desi and Stephen have been together 16 years, weathering all of life’s phases and growth together.
• Practical relationship advice: date night every Friday — no exceptions: Desi, [26:02]: “Stephen and I have date nights every Friday. No exceptions.”
• She reflects on loving Stephen more after having kids, because of what a great father he is.

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7. Origin Story: From Cocktail Server to Makeup Mogul

[31:12 – 33:43]

• Desi’s journey into the beauty world began almost accidentally—doing SFX makeup on Stephen for a Halloween gig, then taking $50 makeup gigs, then lying her way onto a TV set.
• Breakthrough: Viral repost from makeup influencer Vegas Nay led to thousands of new followers overnight.
• Desi, [33:14]: “I still talk to her to this day, and I always bring her up because I’ll never forget that moment.”

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8. OG Influencer Brand Trips: A Bygone Era

[37:41 – 44:53]

• The group reminisces about the golden age of influencer brand trips—tight-knit groups, DSLR cameras, wild vlogs, drone wars, candid moments with no fear of “cancellation.”
• Josh, [41:32]: “I remember one time we came back to our room… everybody got drones… 40 minutes after, all you hear is [drone noises] and the hotel came to our door like, ‘You guys can’t do that.’”
• “There will never, ever, ever, ever be a group like us.” — Josh, [37:54]

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9. Building Desi Eyewear (& the Villain Origin Story)

[46:28 – 55:05]

• After a smash-hit collab with an eyewear company (that she helped scale and sell—with no ownership), Desi was dismissed in a boardroom by a new exec:
  • Exec: “That’s a lot of money for a little girl.”
  • Desi, [50:13]: “I was truly shocked… like, I really poured my whole life into this thinking that, like— as if it was my own, you know. And it wasn’t. It never was."
• The experience energized her to build her own brands: Desi Eyewear and Desi Skin.
• Manifesting for Beyonce:
  Desi consciously designs sunglasses for Beyonce’s “Cowboy Carter” album before any approach, journaling it months before her team is contacted.
  • Desi, [53:54]: “…We hopped on and we talked about it, and I sent them off. Obviously, there’s no guarantee… Every night she performed, I was, like, my eyes were waiting. Finally, I saw the pair and I was screaming. My whole team was screaming.”
  • Beyonce wore them for four tour performances.

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10. Breaking Into Skincare: Vulnerability Goes Viral

[58:05 – 60:34]

• Desi discusses launching Desi Skin after openly sharing her struggles with acne on YouTube—breaking the “perfection” mold and resonating with viewers: Desi, [58:44]: "I think a lot of my best and most popular things come from vulnerable moments and vulnerability.”

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11. Rapid-Fire & Fun Closing

[61:20 – End (~79:35)]

• A playful Q&A covers guilty pleasures (none!), best movie (Devil Wears Prada), Hot Cheeto consumption methodology (chopsticks, limón, no finger stains), and her fast-food order (In-N-Out #2, grilled onions, extra lettuce).
• Motherhood joys: “When you see their personalities and they’re funny… when they outsmart you.”
• Best advice she ever got: “Everything will go wrong. Your job is to learn to pivot and work with everything going wrong.”
• The episode wraps with mutual appreciation, love for the community, and an open invitation for future collaborations and family adventures.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "At the time, it was just us... now there’s so many influencers, you can have 20 million followers and I've never heard of them." — Desi, [04:47]
• "I’ve learned to accept there’s no such thing as balance. There are things that will take priority." — Desi, [10:32]
• "My soul is the happiest [in Puerto Vallarta]... Pretty soon, I’m just going to stay there." — Desi, [14:11]
• "That girl is way too cute for you to be treating her like that. Don’t be a fucking asshole." — Desi, [21:30]
• "Stephen and I have date nights every Friday. No exceptions." — Desi, [26:02]
• "[On the start] I was a cocktail server forever...suddenly I'm on an ABC show with Tim Gunn, doing makeup on set—I had no idea what I was doing!" — Desi, [32:16]
• "That’s a lot of money for a little girl." — Exec, [50:07]
• "I just now designed custom sunglasses for Beyonce for her Cowboy Carter tour. She wore four pairs!" — Desi, [52:41]
• "Everything will go wrong. Your job is to learn to pivot..." — Desi, [74:32]

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Episode Highlights

• Nostalgia: OG YouTube/Instagram bonds, brand trip wildness, before “influencer” had a name.
• Manifestation: Journaling and vision-boarding directly led to Beyonce connection.
• Vulnerability: Desi’s openness about acne, motherhood, and setbacks forged a path for authenticity in influencer culture.
• Business Grit: Surviving backroom sexism, Desi turned exclusion into two thriving brands—Desi Eyewear & Desi Skin.
• Friendship-Centric: Decades-long partnership with Stephen, close connections with fellow West Coast creators.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a celebratory and deeply honest exploration of community, resilience, and reinvention. Desi Perkins’ journey offers inspiration for aspiring creators, entrepreneurs, and anyone seeking to reclaim setbacks as stepping stones. Rooted in both the joy and messiness of real life, the conversation underscores the power of self-belief, prioritization, and keeping it real—both online and off.

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This summary skips intro/outro and ad sections to focus on the rich and dynamic core conversation.

Transcript

[Josh]

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[Desi Perkins]

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[Josh]

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[Stephen]

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[Josh]

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[Stephen]

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[Josh]

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[Stephen]

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[Josh]

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[Stephen]

Let's go.

[Josh]

You ready, guys?

[Stephen]

Hope you guys enjoy this episode. We'll see you guys in 12.4 segundos. I'm gonna use it.

[Josh]

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[Stephen]

Do we want to go there?

[Josh]

Yeah, Jolly. Cause I'm on a podcast with Josh Labor. Hell yeah. You have too.

[Stephen]

Ladies and gentlemen, See the fly. Let me just tell you.

[Desi Perkins]

This is La Platica episode 215 with Desi Perkins.

[Stephen]

Wow. I love a good slate, man.

[Josh]

Wow. I said it before. And this is La Platica history. Yeah. With not just the one and only, but. Oh, somebody I grew up with.

[Desi Perkins]

We grew up together.

[Josh]

We grew up together. Yeah. And you guys aren't saying right now, but Stephen Perkins is also.

[Stephen]

Oh, he in the building.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Daddy.

[Josh]

Daddy. He literally. Daddy. I. This. This video is sponsored by SE Number one rated ticketing app on the App Store. Yes, sir. And that's only according to. To the whole world. So shout out to the homies back at se. Today on the show, we have a longtime friend, someone I grew up with, someone I've traveled the world with, actually. We sure have a multi brand power. Latina businesswoman, amazing mother, amazing friend, amazing daughter. Desi Perkins in the flash. There she is.

[Stephen]

By the way, Desi. He's never done that before. Put together. You have not, not. Not that elaborate.

[Josh]

Okay. For a. For a long time, friend. I had you. Yeah. It's. It's almost like I respect you. You know what I mean? It's not that I don't respect others. Whoa, dude. Yeah, I buried. Yeah, that's gonna get close, that one. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I know. I had to. Yeah, I had to. We're very excited to have you. Like I said, longtime friend, somebody. We were just talking about it right before we hit record. It's like, did we kind of grow up with each other? We kind of did. Right. In a sort of era, I mean, and we still obviously love each other and we know, we. We know each other, and I think we did.

[Stephen]

What's the. What's the year that you guys met? What's the.

[Josh]

What's the origin story, man, from the beginning.

[Desi Perkins]

The beginning of social media, where dinosaurs.

[Josh]

Was that like 15, 16, 2016. Yeah.

[Stephen]

Is that when you had started?

[Desi Perkins]

I started in 2012. My first YouTube upload.

[Stephen]

Wow. What was the video?

[Desi Perkins]

It was a get ready with me. It was very formal, no person, just very, like straight to.

[Stephen]

Straight to the point.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. And it had like that and like, really bad lighting.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. But that's how we started. And we kind of navigated growing on social media together and what that meant and working with brands and, you know, it was the wild, wild west back then.

[Josh]

And it was like a. A group of. Of females and also a group of males that there was always just us. Right. For. For a while.

[Desi Perkins]

It'll never be that again. It was such a special thing that we could all. No matter like, how much time goes by, you know, all of us have, like, gone into our own paths in life, but, like, we'll always have those moments where it was just us and nobody else. Like, now there's so many influencers.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

I mean, there could be somebody with 20 million followers and you've never heard of them because there's so many people that are so popular.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And at the time, it was just us. So every single brand trip was the same people. So we just kind of traveled the world together, grew up together, created that bond. Yeah.

[Stephen]

So I started Making comedy videos in 2010. Like YouTube.

[Josh]

So.

[Stephen]

But I had a different group of friends. I didn't know you guys, like, this group of people existed until I met Sevas in 2015. 2016.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stephen]

And I met Karen and then I was like, oh, she's a beauty. Like, creator. What does that mean?

[Desi Perkins]

Like, you didn't know?

[Josh]

He was on the other side.

[Stephen]

I was on the other side of YouTube. Like the dark side.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

But that's how I got introduced to you, like through his wife. And then I started realizing that there's this other world of creators.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Which was really cool. And that's how I got introduced to Mac Daddy and Desi and Karen and all these, like, other iconic, you know. Oh, geez.

[Josh]

Cuz, Josh was. He's. He was, he's still popping. But I mean, he was like, he was like uploading videos and like he, like, he knew he was going to get a million views each video. Like that. Right?

[Stephen]

It was different. Yeah, it was different.

[Josh]

It was different. You, you.

[Stephen]

You know this, right? Like, the algorithm, everything was just so different. It was, it was brand new.

[Josh]

Right.

[Stephen]

So it was almost like Tik Tok is now. Like the discoverability was a little easier.

[Josh]

You know what I mean?

[Stephen]

Like, yeah, the algorithm was just curated for people who are trying to make videos.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

But also it was a time where people were searching corre specific things. Whereas, like, it wasn't a time of scrolling. So it's like if you wanted super facts, a makeup look, you type in. It was like our Google and now people are just scrolling. So. Yeah, it was so different.

[Stephen]

I kind of use Tick Tock in that way, though. Cool restaurants in Chicago.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Because I would like visuals.

[Stephen]

Me too.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't use Google as much anymore.

[Stephen]

No. At all. At all. I do chat, GBT and TikTok. Those are my two sources.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Desi, I mean, honestly, thank you so much for being on the pod. We wanted to actually have her during the month of September for Latino Heritage. Hispanic Heritage Month. But obviously I.

[Desi Perkins]

But you guys were touring the world.

[Josh]

We. We were on some live shows and you know, obviously not only are you a businesswoman, but you're. You're a mother.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So, like, you're busy, we're busy. But I'm super blessed to just have you on. I know since the beginning of time of La Plastica, everybody's been always asking, bring Desi on. Bring Desi on here.

[Desi Perkins]

So how come you just now ask me?

[Josh]

You know what? It's because I. I feel like, you're.

[Stephen]

Such a. I'm kind of curious, too. I'm like, yeah. Why?

[Desi Perkins]

We're like, wait a minute.

[Josh]

Hold on. I feel like you're such a woman of a high stature. Does that make. Is stature a word?

[Stephen]

Stature is a word, dude.

[Josh]

Did I use it correctly?

[Stephen]

Yes.

[Josh]

Okay. I feel like she's all, yeah, I am.

[Desi Perkins]

No, I said, yeah.

[Stephen]

Yes. She said yes, and yes.

[Josh]

She's such a woman of stature.

[Stephen]

Huh.

[Josh]

That I felt like finally it was.

[Stephen]

Time, you know, you're waiting for the perfect.

[Josh]

It was a perfect moment. Yeah. Imagine if I would have took her to the Shoebox studio.

[Stephen]

No, she's above the Shoebox.

[Josh]

Yeah. I didn't want to take her to my house either, where I used to record either. You know what I mean? So, like, it just needed to be perfect. It was more out of respect for you.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, that's nice. For your atmosphere, I would have gone to the Shoebox.

[Stephen]

Yeah. I mean, the Shoe Box was also a vibe, you know?

[Josh]

Yes. It was cool. It was cool. It was cool. But she probably would have said, no, no, no. Yeah. So now finally, like, that's why I asked. And I was like, you know what? Like, I'll just shoot my shot. I was like, you know, she doesn't really DM me anymore. So what? So hopefully she asks about that.

[Stephen]

I think.

[Josh]

I don't even think she remembers who we are anymore.

[Stephen]

So.

[Josh]

No, I'm joking. I. I hit her up, and she was like, yeah, of course. So it was really cool.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then she just sent me her assistant.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh. Because I can't schedule anything.

[Stephen]

Right.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm the worst. Like, I'm so spotty with responding and scheduling and, like, I have mom brain now. So when somebody writes me, I'll look at it and then I'll say, oh, shoot. I'm really. I'm going to respond later. I'll completely forget.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And it's just because my brain is in 5 million places. So that's why I always, like, she. She schedules everything.

[Josh]

Of course.

[Stephen]

You got to delegate.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

With somebody as a schedule, as yourself. I had to be able to, like.

[Josh]

Yeah. I was like, perfect. Because she's like, oh, my God.

[Desi Perkins]

Wait, wait. But then you sent your person.

[Stephen]

Yeah. Then you were like, oh, you're down, Jess.

[Desi Perkins]

Then he goes, you know what? Jess is better at this than me.

[Stephen]

This is damn true.

[Desi Perkins]

So.

[Josh]

This is very true.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stephen]

I was so excited to get you on. My girlfriend's a massive fan. And, like, I was like, oh, we're having desi. Perkins on Tomorrow. I was in bed. We had just gotten back from Dodgy Game. And she was like, are you kidding me?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

And she started throwing all your products that she owns to me in bed.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

And I'm like, this is all her. She's like, yeah, this is all her.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

And I was, this is incredible. You have a moisturizer. It's a Jamaica moisturize. Yes. So I have a brand called Tast, and we have a Haika floral.

[Desi Perkins]

I know. I love.

[Stephen]

She was like, you guys are. You're. You guys are going to connect. It's going to be amazing. And I was, this is incredible. I was. And I tasted it. I was like, does this actually tastes like he tasted? I wouldn't advise to do that, by the way. I was a little tipsy. I was like, let me see. But the. I loved it. It's amazing. Congratulations on all your success, by the way. You're absolutely crushing it. Not only are you an OG in. In this space, but you've continued to build a legacy around yourself and these brands that you've built. And being a mother and a wife, like, you've done an incredible job. Like, that's why I was so excited to get you on. Like, you are. You've, like, the epitome of a human being. Like, you've, like, you're achieving it. You're just constantly going. It's just so exciting.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm going to come on this podcast all the time. Anytime I'm feeling some type of way, I'm just going to be like, you know what they're doing over here?

[Stephen]

I know it's hard, right?

[Josh]

Like, how do you guys balance that?

[Desi Perkins]

I honestly just tell. I used to be like, oh, yeah, I b. No, there's no such thing as balance. There's always something that is not getting your full attention. So I've learned to accept that there's no such thing as balance. And I've. I've accepted that there are things that will take priority, and I'll make a list of priorities from top to bottom.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

And start there and whatever. I don't get to, like, there's another day, right? So it's just. It's just having to set priority lists, but it's never balanced. It's always just something or I'm feeling like I'm. Oh, this week's really busy. I feel like a terrible mom because I just. The kids miss me. I can tell because they're, you know, mommy, mommy, and it makes me feel terrible. So then I'll Ned, the next week, say no to everything. Every event and just spent. Pour myself into the kids. And then I'll feel bad because you're not pouring. Then my team is like, hey, like, you should probably go to this. This will be good. And I'm just. It's a cycle of that.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stephen]

So I think that's incredible because I think everybody uses this, like, oh, it's all about, like, a balance and stuff, and that's not. That's not reality. You know what I mean? Like, that's just not the way it works. There's going to be seasons where you pour into other things.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

And then you got to just learn how to prioritize and make and, you.

[Desi Perkins]

Know, I think people might confuse balance with boundaries. Like, there needs to be boundaries.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Always boundaries, but never balance for me.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. And then something always crosses your way. There's always something going on.

[Desi Perkins]

And then you'll say, like, I'm not going to events. I need to focus on this. But then it's like, oh, your friends having an event, and you definitely want to go to support. So then it's like, you just, you.

[Stephen]

Know, you make it work.

[Desi Perkins]

You make it work.

[Josh]

Yeah. Speaking about, like, podcasts and stuff, I. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't. I haven't seen you on a podcast before.

[Desi Perkins]

It's because you don't watch my stuff anymore.

[Josh]

No, I do.

[Stephen]

You have. I was like, yeah, you don't watch your.

[Desi Perkins]

You know what? I, I, I'm not. No, you're right. I don't do a lot of podcasts a lot.

[Josh]

But you have.

[Desi Perkins]

No, I have. Yeah. I just don't do a lot.

[Josh]

So what's the vibe right now? Am I with it?

[Desi Perkins]

I like it so far. So far it's good. The minute I walked in, you guys.

[Stephen]

But we kind of said it like, beer, water.

[Desi Perkins]

No, they were like a drink, like a. You know. And then. Yeah, beer. To Stephen, by the way. Not to me.

[Josh]

Well, out of respect. Out of respect?

[Stephen]

Honestly. Yeah, bro. Sexist.

[Josh]

Not sexist.

[Desi Perkins]

And then I said, I'll take.

[Josh]

Yeah, you said it faster than Stephen. Yeah. I just didn't think that you were gonna drink in the morning or. It's technically not the morning.

[Stephen]

It's Monday, baby. Well, not. I mean, like, for the viewers.

[Josh]

For the viewers, it's Monday. Yeah. What else is new?

[Stephen]

Like, how are you?

[Josh]

Yeah, how are you?

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, my gosh.

[Stephen]

Like, outside of the business.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, we got questions. Genuinely, how are you?

[Desi Perkins]

I am incredible.

[Josh]

Good.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm probably the happiest I've ever been in my entire life. I feel centered. I feel like I know who I am. I know what I. What makes me happy. I know what I value. I think, like, as you're growing up, you're kind of learning where your values lie.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

I know all of that now, so I feel so sure of myself. I think being a mother, at the end of the day, like, if everything were to disappear, as long as I just had my. My family and what I have at home, that's all that, like, I care about. Obviously, I care about driving force, my business and stuff, and that's not really what I mean, but just I know the value of my happiness lies there.

[Josh]

Yeah. My favorite stories when you post is when you're in Puerto Vallarta. Pv.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

My soul is the happiest.

[Josh]

I love that you guys. I love that you guys go there constantly.

[Stephen]

Is that your guys's spot?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, that's where we're from. My family's from there. So every year we go, and every year we're going longer and longer, and pretty soon, I'm just gonna stay there.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Wow. Would you ever get a house out there? Yeah, I want to, like, a summer house.

[Josh]

That'd be sick.

[Stephen]

That would be so.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

No, but they love people. They go and, like, Stephen and then caballo and everything. Yes.

[Desi Perkins]

It's Mexicano.

[Josh]

Yeah. He's like, bro. He's going like this, by the way, Stephen, like, he. That was Mexican.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, he always says it. I mean, he loves. He makes the best carne asada.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

He's in charge every time, even in Mexico, with the family.

[Josh]

Really? That's a big deal.

[Stephen]

That's a huge.

[Josh]

That's a huge deal. Yeah. No, I love the rite of passage. I love that you guys go constantly. For me, it hits a little different because, like, I'm also from Jalisco, so the beach that we would go to is Vallarta.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, so I grew up going to Vallarta. There's another little town there, too, and we'd always go there. So whenever you guys go, I'm like. It's like. It hits something different for me because I'm like, oh, that's so cool. Like, I was technically raised going there, and Puerto Vallarta is the.

[Desi Perkins]

It is.

[Stephen]

It's beautiful.

[Desi Perkins]

So fun.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

There's so much community. When we came back home last time, my son looked at me and he goes, mommy, I think we belong in Mexico.

[Stephen]

What?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. He was like, this is where we should be. And they want to be there always.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

And so we love going. And every year we go for a little bit longer. A little bit longer.

[Josh]

Yeah. And the fact that you take your kids there and, you know, that's so.

[Stephen]

That's so adorable.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, they love it.

[Stephen]

I. Sorry. I. I just. Because I had a funny story and my mom's gonna love this. So my, I raised my single mom. She did everything to provide the best life for me. And I was so, like, infatuated with like, hip hop culture that I wanted to be from the hood. So I would, like, tell my mom, like, like, almost what your kids will say about Mexico. But I'm like, why don't we live in Compton? Like, what are we doing? Like, she was like, so pissed. She was like, what are you talking about?

[Josh]

Wow.

[Stephen]

Anyways, this reminded me. It's similar, but different.

[Josh]

You still want to live in Compton?

[Stephen]

I wanted to be raised in Compton, bro.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's cool, man.

[Stephen]

According to nwa, I guess.

[Josh]

No, it's. It's so amazing how I see your kids and they're just like on the beach. They're with your primos.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, they're with a pig. Yeah, they're with a pig.

[Desi Perkins]

Walks a pig and his dogs on the beach every day.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's though. It's those moments that really kind of shape your son and your daughter. You know what I mean? Like, because I remember, like my. My mom would take me there was obviously just how all of us were raised. There wasn't too much money, you know, with our family. So I had an uncle who would. His job. He was a chauffeur. He was like a chauffeur, like a driver that would drive from Tijuana to Sinaloa and then from. I would get picked up and like, it was like a long ass, like, tour bus. And like, we would just go there. And I was just sitting there for like 20 hours, bro. Me and all my. And me and all my brothers and sisters, and we would just go because my mom couldn't afford plane tickets for all of us. So I would just be on a bus from Tijuana all the way to. It was called Tepic in over there in Nayarita. I'm sorry. And it's those moments that I remember that just. They always stick with you.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So when I see your kids over there, I'm like, damn, this is gonna.

[Stephen]

Have a big impact, this.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's like, huge.

[Desi Perkins]

You don't forget all the birthday parties. Yes, but they'll always remember these trips. Yeah, it's a fact, because same like, my mom sent me. Like, I would be as early as 4 years old. I was going to Mexico alone on the flight, and my mom would send me for the summers to stay with my family. So I was just going for as long as I could remember growing up. And it's what I remember. And my memories are there. You know how when you watch a movie, that's your comfort movie?

[Stephen]

Oh, yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

I feel like that's what that is for me. It's like anytime I'm feeling like I need comfort being there, it's like I'm healed again. Like, I love going. And it's because of those memories I made as a kid. I just like to go back to that, revisit it.

[Stephen]

And you having that feeling is something you want to create for your kids as well. That's cool.

[Desi Perkins]

They love it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

That's so cool. How old is your. Your son?

[Desi Perkins]

My son is a B5 this month.

[Josh]

Ain't that crazy? He's fire now.

[Desi Perkins]

5.

[Stephen]

Dude. Having a kid, does it trip you out? Like, I don't have any kids, but I could just imagine what it's like, like, I made you and you're just.

[Desi Perkins]

Here now when they start to act exactly like you and you see something that's you.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Trips you out.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, the way my son is so 50, Steven. 50 me.

[Josh]

Really?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. He's like, split down the middle. And then my daughter is, I'm gonna say 100 you. Maybe like 90 me and 10 somebody else, but she's very me. I don't know. She's. She's.

[Stephen]

Yeah, she's younger.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, she's two. She. Oh, she just turned three. Sorry. See what I mean?

[Stephen]

She's busy, guys.

[Desi Perkins]

Mom brain. No, she just turned three last month. And my son is gonna be five, so that's cool.

[Stephen]

So, yeah, so he's. She like having an older brother and having him, like, be around and protect in that age gap, I think is beautiful. That's gonna be so cool because he'll be in high school at the same.

[Desi Perkins]

Time and all that, and he'll have to protect. I'm always. Yeah, you gotta protect your sister.

[Josh]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Desi Perkins]

And she protects him right back. We were at the park, and this. This older boy was calling my son a baby. And he's like, you're a baby. And Harley goes, he's not a baby. He's my big brother with the finger like this.

[Josh]

No way.

[Desi Perkins]

And I said, where'd she get that from this, like, the finger thing. And then we were at a l' Oreal brand event recently, and this guy was, like, being a dick to his girlfriend. And I was so upset that I approached him and I was like, don't be a fucking. I went off.

[Josh]

Wait, wait, you did that at a l' Oreal event?

[Desi Perkins]

I did. It was so.

[Stephen]

Okay, were they, like, creators? Like, what was there?

[Josh]

Steven, Were you there?

[Desi Perkins]

He was there.

[Josh]

No way.

[Stephen]

And were you like, this is the.

[Josh]

First time you ever done this at a brand event?

[Desi Perkins]

Okay, so listen, this is an amazing.

[Stephen]

Story, by the way.

[Desi Perkins]

This girl comes up to Stephen and I. We're having a drink, and she goes, oh, do you mind taking a photo of me and my boyfriend? And of course, Stephen. If you know one thing about Stephen, he'll do. Bend over backwards to get you a good photo.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Desi Perkins]

And so he was like, yeah, of course.

[Josh]

I bent over backwards many times for Stephen, for Steven. I love that. I love that. For. Continue.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm glad. Okay. I was.

[Josh]

Why you shy all of a sudden?

[Desi Perkins]

You're looking at.

[Josh]

You're shy. Another shot.

[Desi Perkins]

Anyways, so this. She asked for a picture. We get the. Like, her. Her phone to take the photo, and the minute we put the camera up, her man gets so rude, and he pretends to take a phone call.

[Josh]

What?

[Desi Perkins]

And the phone. I saw the phone, and there was nobody. There was. It was the home. And he, like, walked away, and he kind of just brushed her off, and her face looked so sad. I'm talking, like, just embarrassed. Yeah, she. It upset me because she looked like. I don't know how to explain it. But her friend then had said, oh, well, you know, we've been trying to get a photo with him all night, and he's been doing that. He's been just, like, finding reasons to walk away. So then I got really upset, and I was like, okay. So when I saw him again, I went up to him and I was like, what was that about? And he goes, oh, I had a phone call. I was like, no, you didn't.

[Josh]

Dang. Straight up.

[Desi Perkins]

And he was like, I did. And I said, actually, no, I saw your phone. You weren't on the phone with anyone. And everyone else saw your phone, too, so you're lying. And I was like, that girl is way too cute for you to be treating her like that. And I said, don't be a fucking asshole. And he's like, you did the little pointing, and I did the pointing. And Steven was filming it. I didn't know from a distance. Somebody went up to Steven and was like, aren't you kind of nervous that she's going up to this guy and talking to him like that? And he goes, yeah, I'm nervous for him.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

Anyways, come to find out this guy was an actor and so was the girl, and they were purposely trying to make the crowd believe that he was an asshole because it was part of a skit that they did on the stage later.

[Stephen]

Wait, wait, what?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, it was a. It was like a show. It was, like, part of.

[Stephen]

So it was all bit.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, so it was all a bit. But I. Obviously, none of us had any idea. So they had been doing that to people all night and to get a reaction. To get. No, I guess it wasn't even, like, being recorded.

[Stephen]

It was just more for, like.

[Desi Perkins]

No. In the moment. So that when he became an. For the heckling part of the show, people would be like, oh, yeah, that guy's been an asshole all night.

[Stephen]

So she also was in on it as well.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Yeah. She 100 convinced me with the face.

[Josh]

That's not cool, dude.

[Desi Perkins]

Honestly, it was. It was a little, like, I was shocked. I was a little shocked and then also embarrassed later because when I found out it was a bit social experiment. Wait.

[Josh]

Yeah, you're part of a social experiment.

[Desi Perkins]

So. But the finger.

[Stephen]

But. But you know what? Nonetheless, it kind of, like, shows your character. Yeah. Like, you defended this girl, like, in that moment of, like, you stood up for her, like, so I think, like, you did the right thing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Even though it's like, they are. That's weird.

[Desi Perkins]

I said, you know that. What would you do? I was like, well, at least we all know that I'd be doing.

[Josh]

Yeah. Which is great. Which is great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. At a brand event.

[Desi Perkins]

I had never. I had never experienced anything like that at a brand event.

[Stephen]

And have you ever. So you've never, like, approached. Have you ever approached somebody like that? Like, and then I guess, like, I.

[Desi Perkins]

Feel like if I ever see someone treating somebody bad and the person is defenseless, I can't help it. Yeah, but, like, she would have stuck up for herself. I wouldn't have said, of course.

[Stephen]

Of course not. Your place, right?

[Josh]

Yeah. Has Desi Perkins ever got into a fight? Like a fist fight? Damn.

[Desi Perkins]

Or Desiree Desi Perkins? Absolutely not.

[Stephen]

Not.

[Desi Perkins]

There was a time they used to call me the Snatcher.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Damn.

[Stephen]

A snatcher.

[Desi Perkins]

I was wild. Back in the days, you can't get in fights anymore.

[Josh]

Did you see that, too?

[Desi Perkins]

See, he's seen It.

[Stephen]

How long have you guys been together?

[Josh]

Forever.

[Desi Perkins]

16 year.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

I think I said it, like.

[Josh]

And I think that's something that, like, me and Karen, we always, like, love them because they've been with each other, like, for such a long time that me and Karen related to, like, you.

[Stephen]

Guys are 12 years, 13 years.

[Josh]

Nah, 10. Almost 50. Oh, I don't know. I'm stupid. So I got with her in 2010.

[Stephen]

Yeah. 15 years, bro.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Wait, so we've been together longer then. I can't do math either.

[Josh]

So when did you guys get together? What year? Because I know you guys used to celebrate your. When we got together.

[Desi Perkins]

No, we didn't.

[Josh]

Never.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't think so. We can barely celebrate our anniversary.

[Josh]

Dating. The dating anniversary.

[Stephen]

Yeah, the dating animation.

[Desi Perkins]

We met in 2006, and we started dating summer of 2000.

[Josh]

2006.

[Stephen]

High school. Is this high school?

[Josh]

What the. I was like, Bro, 2006.

[Desi Perkins]

I know.

[Josh]

I was like, 15. Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

So he's seen me and I've seen him through all our phases.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Stephen]

That's a lot of change. Like, that's a lot of.

[Josh]

Yeah. Growth. That's all the change.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

It's not crazy.

[Josh]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Stephen]

She's been more in your life than her not being in your life.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Stephen]

As a human.

[Josh]

Yeah. And it just keeps getting longer. Now pause. That's actually really beautiful.

[Stephen]

That is crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's different when you hear from somebody else, because I obviously grew up with Karen, too, but when somebody else says it, it's like, I really think about, like, damn.

[Desi Perkins]

Then you think about your own relationship.

[Josh]

Like, oh, wait, you guys went through it all. Overdrafts, not paying bills.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, yeah.

[Stephen]

Yeah. What's the. What's the secret?

[Desi Perkins]

Stamps.

[Josh]

Yeah. What's the secret? How do you guys still spark it up?

[Desi Perkins]

What's the secret?

[Josh]

Food stamps.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

There was a time.

[Stephen]

I love that.

[Josh]

I love that. What's the spark?

[Desi Perkins]

The secret. I mean, there's so many things. There's. Okay, so Stephen and I have date nights every Friday. No exceptions.

[Josh]

Yeah, no exceptions. Wow. I love that.

[Desi Perkins]

There's, like, very rarely will there be something that's like, okay, this is. It has to be, like, once in a lifetime something. But other than that, every Friday night, we make plans to do something together. No kids, just him and I. So that.

[Josh]

I love how you guys pick Fridays, too, too.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Friday is always intentional cracking. There's always something on a Friday night.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Like, we go Out. We'll do, like, pottery making. Just fun things. We have hobbies together and, like, separate, which is nice. We talk. We make sure we communicate all the stuff that you should be doing. But I think Friday nights is really keeping it for us. But I also think that I've loved him more since having kids with him.

[Josh]

So you look at him level unlocked.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

But it's because he's a really great father and he's a great husband. So when I see him doing these things with the kids, I'm like, damn, I love that man. Like, I love him more after kids. I'm just like, I feel like you.

[Josh]

Guys want to make out right now.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

I'm like, I feel like they want.

[Josh]

To make out right now.

[Desi Perkins]

No. That's the one thing. I'm like, I'm so blessed because I truly feel like, damn, there's no other person.

[Josh]

Yeah. Wow. That's incredible. What a feeling.

[Stephen]

And how lucky are you? Like, how. That's insane. Yeah. Because not everybody has this feeling.

[Desi Perkins]

I think. I'm not luck. I. That's the one thing I'm like. I feel so lucky to have. To have that relationship, you know? Of course. It gets on my nerves sometimes. I get on his nerves.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

But it's healthy.

[Josh]

Yeah. You have.

[Stephen]

It's kind of needed.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, sometimes you just have a little bicker moment, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. All the time. All the time. Duh. You. This is the guy that you. You grew up with. Of course you're gonna bicker.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What was your guys's first date? Do you remember that?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. We snuck into a movie, and you guys.

[Josh]

Hold on.

[Desi Perkins]

We went to Islands Island Burgers. Yes.

[Josh]

Fire. Fire.

[Stephen]

And a great first date.

[Josh]

The best island burger is the one.

[Stephen]

In Long beach with the pineapple.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Is that the one you got?

[Stephen]

It's so good.

[Josh]

They have really good ranch.

[Desi Perkins]

Listen, their cheese fries go off, too.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

As well. But we went to Islands. We split a burger. This is how young we were. We like burger. And then we went to a movie, and we snuck into the movie theater, and we stole the Superman poster from the movie.

[Stephen]

No way.

[Josh]

What?

[Stephen]

That you guys still have.

[Desi Perkins]

And then.

[Josh]

That's incredible, by the way.

[Stephen]

Do you guys do this? Is this, like, a thing you guys do?

[Desi Perkins]

No, we don't see all under normal. This was like. We were so. I don't even know why we did it, because I think the poster looked like him. I really don't know why we did that. And then we, like, held it on top of the car. All the way home. Because it's that big.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And then it was like the.

[Stephen]

The cardboard one.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, Steven's mom still has it in her garage.

[Stephen]

No way. I shouldn't admit this, but I like, like to take, like, cups from restaurants. That's why I was asking, like, do you guys do this because I was like, me. I do.

[Desi Perkins]

Is there a room full of thieves?

[Josh]

Wow, that's good.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. And then we, like, parked in front of my house and made out for like, a few hours.

[Stephen]

Wow.

[Josh]

That was my question. You guys met on the first date.

[Stephen]

Yeah, but this is. This is high school, right?

[Desi Perkins]

So this is. I was. No, no, this is the year after high school. So, like, this is the summer that I graduated.

[Josh]

Oh, okay.

[Stephen]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Desi Perkins]

But don't do the math too hard.

[Josh]

I was doing it right now.

[Stephen]

For me, it was more like timeline. Like, like where you're at in your life. Like, you know what I mean?

[Josh]

No, I was like, comparing your timeline to mine because you guys. But if you said you graduated already. Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

I think you're a little younger than me probably.

[Josh]

I look older, though.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't know.

[Stephen]

Do you need to take a break or anything?

[Desi Perkins]

No.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

Another beer?

[Josh]

Yeah. Get her another beer. No, actually, no.

[Desi Perkins]

We're gonna do a shot.

[Josh]

You want to do a shot?

[Stephen]

And you're all taste. I do that, bro. Thank you for rapping, man.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Do we have a chaser? That's the thing.

[Stephen]

Yes.

[Josh]

Can we also invite you? What are you guys doing November Eigth?

[Desi Perkins]

I have no idea.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's a stupid question.

[Stephen]

At 5pm what are you doing then?

[Josh]

Yeah, we're doing a live show in Riverside.

[Stephen]

Oh, yes.

[Josh]

So I'd like you. I'll send you a link so you can buy the tickets.

[Desi Perkins]

Okay, I'll buy them.

[Josh]

No, of course.

[Stephen]

Do you know what you're talking to, bro? She'll buy the whole venue, bro.

[Desi Perkins]

I grew up in the South Bay, like Hawthorne. Oh, nice area.

[Josh]

You know, it's crazy. You never meet people that grow up.

[Stephen]

By the South Bay and then, like, do the influencer, like, you know, go into that space.

[Josh]

And when you meet people that grow up in, like, the South Bay area, they always kind of present to you and they, they, they. They let you realize how cool the South Bay is.

[Desi Perkins]

The South Bay is amazing.

[Josh]

It's amazing.

[Desi Perkins]

I started in Hawthorne, then most of my. Then I. Rest of my life was in Lawndale, which I don't know if you know that. Yeah. So I love it. I love it there. I actually miss It. I miss living in a predominantly, like, Hispanic neighborhood.

[Stephen]

For sure.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't get the elote carts anymore.

[Stephen]

I know.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't hear the. Like. I miss that.

[Josh]

We got the fruit. The fruit ladies on material.

[Stephen]

We do. We do.

[Desi Perkins]

I go to them all the time.

[Stephen]

So Desi. For myself, I'm very. I'm very intrigued on, like, how you kind of got your start. Can I. Can I just kind of hear the story? I'm sorry if you've said it multiple times, but I'm very intrigued.

[Desi Perkins]

No, it was all. It's a. It was a fun accident, basically. I've always been into art and painting and things like that, and I wasn't a creative makeup person. I did love to do my own makeup, but nothing, you know, like YouTube or anything. And one day, Steven got a job doing photography at a bar, and it was Halloween time, and they said he needed to have a costume of something of some sort. So he was like, I don't have a costume. And I said, oh, I saw this YouTube video. I think I could probably replicate whatever they did on your face. Like some special effects makeup.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And because I was always painting, I felt like it can't be much different. And I did it that night, and it ended up turning out really good. I mean, now looking back, it could have been. Could have been better, but at the time, it was good. And everyone was like, oh, did you get this professionally done? I'd been a cocktail server forever. I was. I hated my job. So.

[Josh]

Yeah. Really? I didn't know that.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Six years. And when they asked who did it, he was like, oh, my girlfriend did it. And they said, do you do this professionally? And I was like, yes, of course I do. So I started doing people's faces out of my house for 50 bucks a face. It was like, special effects, whatever they wanted. I was like, I didn't have a kit or anything. I was just, like, making it work. And then somebody was like, do you do makeup for television? And I said, yeah, as a matter.

[Josh]

Of fact, I do always say yes.

[Desi Perkins]

Next thing you know, I'm on an ABC show with Tim Gunn and I'm doing makeup on set. I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. Now. Looking back, I'm. Wow. That was actually kind of crazy of me to say yes, because television makeup is much different.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And no, but I. I made it work. And I just kind of kept saying yes. Moving forward, I. I started posting on Instagram. Stephen forced me to. He was like, you need to. It's so Cool. Started posting my makeup looks. And Vegas Nay, who was one of the top makeup influencers. First one to, like, really be a. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

I remember.

[Desi Perkins]

Curator of, like, artists. She reposted me. And I'll never forget the day that my phone. I had notifications on, honey, because I was. I wasn't, like, an influencer. My phone started going, like, it wouldn't stop liking commenting. It was phenomenal. Like, nothing like that will ever happen now. A repost just doesn't have that much power. But it was insane. I grew thousands of followers overnight, and then people asked me to start YouTube and I just said yes, and I ended up here.

[Stephen]

Have you ever connected with that person?

[Desi Perkins]

Yes. I still talk to her to this day, and I always bring her up because I'll never forget that moment.

[Stephen]

Like, that's so crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. There was always. Wasn't there always, like. Well, till this day. But back then, they were more impactful. There were always, like, Instagram accounts that would just repost, but it would have so much following.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That if you get reposted.

[Stephen]

Shoot you up.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

That was the way to grow.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, let's take a shot.

[Desi Perkins]

You.

[Josh]

You know something?

[Stephen]

You call that an accidental. What did you say? You just said something.

[Josh]

I thought it was so, like, poetic.

[Desi Perkins]

Like a happy accident. I don't know.

[Stephen]

Happy accident.

[Josh]

No, it wasn't. That's what I wanted to.

[Stephen]

Cheers to.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

Cheers to that.

[Josh]

Cheers to that. But no, cheers to you being a cocktail server for six years.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Cheers.

[Josh]

Let's go. Cheers. Cheers to that.

[Desi Perkins]

All right.

[Stephen]

Are we all okay?

[Josh]

I think so. All right.

[Stephen]

Are we here?

[Desi Perkins]

I feel great.

[Stephen]

Yeah, we're live.

[Josh]

Hey, headphones. More immersed, right?

[Stephen]

Yeah, I definitely.

[Josh]

I can turn it down or turn it up, too. I have my. All the way up.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, it's nice. I like it.

[Josh]

Okay, this is good. Imagine if you always, like, you heard everything like.

[Stephen]

Like this. That would be kind of badass. I feel like they're trying to do that now with, like, the AirPods. Like, they're even having them be able to translate for you if you're talking with somebody with a different name.

[Desi Perkins]

I can't wait to try that.

[Stephen]

That's so cool.

[Josh]

Does Desi Perkins use chat? G. Don't lie.

[Desi Perkins]

She may have dabbled. She may have dabbled.

[Stephen]

I feel like that you have to.

[Josh]

Right.

[Stephen]

Adapt or die.

[Josh]

It's, like, sucks, but yeah, it's a great app.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It does everything. And the way it talks to you and the way.

[Desi Perkins]

What would happen if your. Your chat GPT Responses got leaked or your problem.

[Stephen]

Oh, my God. I'll be.

[Josh]

I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be too. But I would be judged. I wouldn't be like, too. But yeah, I'd be judged for sure.

[Desi Perkins]

I think everyone would, though.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

That's the thing is that chat knows a little too much about everyone.

[Stephen]

It's because I'm very vulnerable with my. With my chat.

[Josh]

Are you?

[Stephen]

Yes, dude.

[Josh]

Everything I talk, you know, he talks to the. His chat GPT, like, just for fun.

[Desi Perkins]

A lot of people do that.

[Stephen]

Yeah, dude. I do even, like, rehearsing stuff. If I have a presentation or something, I will go through it with chat and he'll, like, give me feedback and notes and. And talks to me.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

It's kind of scary to think that, like, our children will be growing up with virtual, like. Yeah, like AI.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stephen]

Like, it's not.

[Desi Perkins]

There's like, AI artists being signed AI actresses.

[Josh]

Yeah, there's.

[Desi Perkins]

I might just be AI from now. I'm tired.

[Josh]

Yeah. No, I would, like, I would just.

[Desi Perkins]

Make myself an AI avatar. And you can be an AI influencer.

[Josh]

Yeah, there's.

[Stephen]

That's kind of crazy.

[Josh]

It'd be easier.

[Stephen]

Like, you start off as a.

[Josh]

Like you.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. And I'll just stay.

[Stephen]

Me transition into an.

[Josh]

That.

[Desi Perkins]

No.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

That way, like, I can stop going to my Botox appointments and like.

[Stephen]

Yeah, the AI handles.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. I don't. I don't even need to, like, get glam. I could just.

[Stephen]

How far are we away from that? Like, two weeks.

[Josh]

Not. Not. Not far at all.

[Stephen]

Not far at all.

[Josh]

Not far at all. Desi. You know, I've known Desi Perkins for such a long time. Me and my wife, we've traveled the world. Like I said. I want to know what has been your favorite brand trip? There's been some pretty epic ones.

[Stephen]

Are those still a thing, by the way?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, they are. Yeah. It's just so different now, though, because.

[Josh]

Different, Right.

[Desi Perkins]

Again, like, they cycle out different types of influencers, you know, so it's always different groups. But, like, back then, it was just.

[Josh]

Just us. And can I say something real quick before you say that there will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be a group like us, first of all. And second, any lead plus one group.

[Desi Perkins]

An elite plus one group.

[Josh]

You guys were the carry two DSLR cameras on us.

[Desi Perkins]

Everyone just does iPhone now and, like, mad editing.

[Josh]

Like drones on some laptops. Crazy.

[Desi Perkins]

All kinds of cameras.

[Josh]

We would make like Transformers the movie.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes.

[Stephen]

On these trips.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. There was trailers to our vlogs. That were like.

[Josh]

Yes, yes. It was epic. I know you guys can't hear me right now. No, we can hear you. This guy ziplined across a jungle with all of his backpack.

[Stephen]

To get the shot.

[Josh]

It was a Louis Vuitton backpack, too.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

But you're also looking at one of probably the best. If the Emmys had a plus one award. That's you, bro. Honestly. Damn.

[Stephen]

That's. You know what?

[Desi Perkins]

This is true.

[Stephen]

I've never heard you say anything like that.

[Josh]

But, yeah, Stephen is one of the guys that would probably show the other + ones how to do shit.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, he's always.

[Josh]

Honestly, he's always been like.

[Desi Perkins]

He always likes to help people.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, he, like, look at. In another emotion. In another. In another world. In another world. Yeah. He would work at Geek Squad or Apple. The store, I think with me.

[Desi Perkins]

Actually, he's actually worked there.

[Josh]

Yeah. One of my dreams is to work at the Apple Store when I retire. Or like. Or like a Geek Squad at Best Buy. That makes sense.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

No, but Steven always had the cool gadget.

[Stephen]

No way. He put you on game.

[Josh]

He flew the drone better than anybody.

[Stephen]

Wow.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Him and John actually used to. Him and John, after that moment, that era, like Stephen and John would set up studios for big brands, like all the makeup brands.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

To have the lane.

[Josh]

Isn't that crazy?

[Stephen]

That's so cool. Ahead of the curve.

[Josh]

Ahead of the curve.

[Desi Perkins]

It was a time.

[Josh]

But yes.

[Desi Perkins]

My favorite brand trip, I have to say, was Bora Bora Tart.

[Josh]

Tart.

[Desi Perkins]

The early day trips.

[Josh]

Yeah, that was a great trip, especially because we.

[Stephen]

What was the brand, if you don't mind?

[Josh]

Tart. Oh, cosmetics.

[Desi Perkins]

It was so fun. It was so fun. Like, sometimes old Snapchats that I used to post pop up and I'm like.

[Josh]

Oh, oh, I said that.

[Desi Perkins]

I did that. I said that because, like, I think over time, being online, you really start to, like, like censor yourself more, but more and more. Polish is like, a really nice way to put it, but I would say, like, retract. And it's because, you know, people like to pick apart little things more and more and more. And there's this. I don't know what the name of it is, but it's like where you expect someone online to be better than you even are in person. Like, in your own life.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And so it starts to get, like. You start to kind of, like, pull back. And I think I feel like that happened over the years, but those early years, we were just. Yeah, we're just living Posting in real time.

[Josh]

Like, we would be drunk.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, snapping whatever we're doing and sending that. And no. No worries. No, like, oh, is this. Do you. Is this okay to post Brand approved. There was no censorship at all.

[Stephen]

We were just living also kind of amazing.

[Josh]

Yeah. Not thinking about, like, what. What a time, right? How blessed were we? So are we, bro. You would wake up. There's like, an itinerary. You go to the lunch or the little event that they had. I remember one time we came back to our room after, like, a dinner or something. Everybody got drones. Like, the new top of the line drone. 40 minutes after. All you hear is.

[Desi Perkins]

And the hotel came to our door and was like, you guys can't do that.

[Josh]

All of our bros.

[Stephen]

Just playing, like, drone wars.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's it.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, some of us didn't even know how to fly drones. So it's just, like, drunk drones everywhere. Epic.

[Josh]

Yeah. What a group.

[Desi Perkins]

And we just, like, got to live it together. And then you got your drone stuck on a roof in Paris, and we.

[Josh]

Had to go, oh, my God, you guys.

[Desi Perkins]

Do you remember that?

[Josh]

And you had to, like, remember we had to pay that lady 300 something. She. Me, bro.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

She knew that I wanted it. And she was like, like, all right, I' ma. This guy real quick. It was in the middle of Paris, bro.

[Desi Perkins]

I remember.

[Josh]

Not open at all.

[Desi Perkins]

She was like, yeah.

[Josh]

She's like, what the. I was like, I'm trying to. I'm trying here. I'm trying here. I should have had Stephen fly it. I knew it. I knew it.

[Desi Perkins]

That was such a fun day, though, because we really went on an adventure to find your.

[Josh]

Wasn't that one of the trips? We were in Paris for, like, 15 days.

[Desi Perkins]

We were there with Kerastas.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. I. I always. Yes. Carousels. I always tell this story. And you probably remember people always ask me, is it true that French people are rude? And I said, you know what? My first trip, I thought that. Because when we were there for that many days. I've been to Paris so many times after that already, and I love Paris. People are great. But that first time. Do you remember when that. And you went off. Now the finger came back. The finger came back. Remember when we all were at that restaurant?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then you went off on the gu. Because, bro, we're all. I mean, we're still young and beautiful.

[Stephen]

Facts.

[Josh]

But we were younger. And we go to this restaurant, just go have some appetizers and some. And some beers, bro. Some drinks.

[Desi Perkins]

We ordered so many appetizers.

[Josh]

So many drinks just to kill time, I think. Right.

[Desi Perkins]

We had a show, the Moulin Rouge, that we were going to.

[Josh]

So we're just trying, like, almost like a little pregame. Yeah. And it was like, I don't know, like, 10 of us, eight of us. I don't. I forgot.

[Desi Perkins]

It was a big.

[Josh]

I know. It. It cemented in my head that you were there because you had the finger.

[Desi Perkins]

The finger. He was. He basically went off on us, and there was the waiter. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

He was so irritated that we weren't ordering entrees. And I think culturally, there was, like, a. A disconnect.

[Stephen]

I get you.

[Desi Perkins]

Because we here go out for, like. But there. I guess it's considered rude.

[Stephen]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Well. Which is. You know. But he could have just said, hey, like. Like, yeah, he could have told us, but instead, he was so rude and started talking crazy to us.

[Josh]

And, like, he said. He. I remember, Remember. I remember he said. He said, next time you come tell me, tell me what you're gonna do so I don't have to set up the table, basically.

[Stephen]

He said that for him?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

No, I mean, I don't know, but.

[Desi Perkins]

It'S hard to say.

[Josh]

Yeah, he was very rude, and he basically said, like, why did I set up the table for you guys then?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, he was really upset.

[Josh]

I'm like, like, bitch, we're still drinking and eating. Like, what's the big deal? You know, we're not used to that. I don't know what his deal was.

[Desi Perkins]

And then I remember I just told him, I said, look, if there's a cultural difference, like, you could have just said that. Like, this is not. Like, this is. We would have been okay with that. Like.

[Josh]

But, yeah.

[Stephen]

Interesting. Interesting. So it's like, it's custom to, like, order apps and then immediately entrees, and that's how you.

[Josh]

I guess.

[Desi Perkins]

I think the point is that if there's cultural differences everywhere, so, like, if you don't know what they are.

[Josh]

Exactly.

[Desi Perkins]

Honestly, I'm sure Americans, we are probably pretty annoying. So, like, we. You know, I'm not going to say he was.

[Josh]

He was in a mood, though.

[Desi Perkins]

He was.

[Josh]

That guy.

[Desi Perkins]

No, that was. That was. Honestly, the way he talked to us was crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah. Don't ever talk to anybody.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, it's also. It's like, you're working in such a. The most touristy place ever.

[Josh]

I have a core memory that Desi went off on that phone.

[Desi Perkins]

I.

[Stephen]

And what did he say?

[Desi Perkins]

I will stand up for myself.

[Josh]

He kind of got, like, a little like, oh, shit.

[Desi Perkins]

No, he apologized.

[Josh]

Yeah, you did. You went off on him. You're being rated, rated E for everyone right now. But you went off on them like PG13 style.

[Desi Perkins]

It was PG13.

[Josh]

Yeah, I went off on the guy.

[Desi Perkins]

At the L' Oreal Rated R, but this guy was PG13.

[Josh]

Oh, really?

[Desi Perkins]

Because I was a server too, so, like, I get it. But also it's like, yeah, you know.

[Josh]

Yeah, he was, he basically said, like, I just did this table for you guys because, you know, they got the napkins. And I'm like, they're just napkins, but.

[Desi Perkins]

We also need napkins for appetizers. It's not a lot of food.

[Josh]

Yeah, we ordered drinks and food. Like, chill out, bro. He's lucky me and Steven didn't jump his ass for 13 seconds.

[Desi Perkins]

No, y' all let me go in the fire.

[Josh]

Yeah, you guys were gone.

[Stephen]

You got that fingers.

[Josh]

That's crazy, bro. That was a trip that we were in Paris for like 14 days.

[Stephen]

I, I, so you have two businesses that you run. Can. What's the, what's the whole origin story of that? Like, how did you get into these businesses? Like, you do a phenomenal job of being a businesswoman, and you, the transition is kind of like, impressive. So what, what was that like?

[Desi Perkins]

So I started out signing with ipsy, if you guys know. That's. It was like, at the time, they hired influencers to create videos for them. And so that's kind of where I started, really getting like a steady paycheck, which was awesome. And then from there, they actually had beauty completely carved out of my contracts. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't take any jobs out in beauty. So then I was approached by an eyewear company that was like, hey, we'd love to do a collaboration with you. Like maybe four designs. It'll be a three month collab. And then, you know, since it was eyewear, I was able to do it. So I was super excited. And I remember asking them, okay, do you mind if I design them personally? Because at first they had just put, like, innovation that they already had in the pipeline.

[Stephen]

Just kind of pick, you could pick.

[Desi Perkins]

And choose and, like change colors, which is really normal. That's pretty standard. And then I said, you know, I just, I have this idea in my mind. I would love to just design it. And they said, oh, yeah, absolutely. So I ended up designing this aviator and I kind of sketched it out. And what Steven and I do really well together is I'm very creative and he's very logistics so that's why I think it works so well. And so I had told him what I wanted, and he went into Photoshop and was like, mocking it up for me. And so then we presented this to them. It took a long time to get it exactly perfect. But once it did, we launched. And at this point, I had sold nothing in my life. I had no idea that I even had selling power. And on launch day, the site completely crashed. It was like everything sold out. Everything crashed. They were completely shocked. I was completely shocked because I had no idea. I was like, what if nobody buys? You know? And then this collaboration.

[Josh]

Humble, Humble.

[Desi Perkins]

This collaboration turned into from three months to almost three years. I was designing with them. I remember I got them on Maluma. I got them like.

[Josh]

I remember those Aviator ones.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. I remember I was like, I reached out to Stylist. I created PR lists for them. And, like, they didn't have PR at.

[Stephen]

The time running the business.

[Desi Perkins]

I was just. I'm so, like, I love to be so involved.

[Stephen]

Super. Hands on.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. Running creative and all of this. And basically saw them through acquisition.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

And they got acquired. And then when they got acquired, you weren't owner. I was not an owner at all. So I had tried to negotiate that in the room. I basically sold them $65 million worth of that one. Sunglass.

[Josh]

Josh, I know you're not in that side of the world at that. At that time in your life. Everybody wore those glasses. It was everybody I'm talking about. You go to the mall, people around December, and you want to take a picture with Santa Claus at the mall that had them on.

[Desi Perkins]

Santa Claus.

[Josh]

No, Josh, I kid you not. Everybody had those glasses. Wow. Everybody.

[Stephen]

And they were. They were. So they were a collab with you. Okay.

[Desi Perkins]

So basically I was just collabing with them and getting a percentage and like this. The contract, I remember, was like this big when we first signed, because I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't have, like, an attorney or anything, so. And the story which I did tell on another podcast was essentially, I went to go renegotiate the terms of our contract. They just got acquired. This is like, like crazy.

[Stephen]

This is post.

[Desi Perkins]

This is post, them being acquired. And the. It's a new guy that comes in, and we're kind of presenting this to him and telling him, you know, what we think we should be doing and what we've done for the brand. And he looked at me in this boardroom in front of all these people and said, that's a lot of Money for a little girl.

[Stephen]

You are lying.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Did the finger come out? Please tell me the finger came out.

[Desi Perkins]

You know what? The finger didn't come out because I was truly shocked. Like, that was one.

[Stephen]

That's what he said, right?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Verbatim.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes, verbatim.

[Stephen]

Word for word or forbatum.

[Desi Perkins]

And forbade. Luckily, at the time, I had my agents there with me who had my back. I had signed at that point with CAA and my agent, Iman, and, you know, they had. They stood up and had my back, and I was actually completely.

[Josh]

Why would you even say that?

[Stephen]

That's insane.

[Desi Perkins]

I was completely in shock. Like, I didn't know. And mind you, this isn't the team I had been working with up until then. This is like. Like. And so I left that room again. I wish I could. Sometimes I wish I could go back and say what I wanted to say, but I was so thrown off that I just was silenced. And I remember, like, kind of looking back like this and being like, are you talking to me again?

[Stephen]

Did you just say that? Like, what the.

[Desi Perkins]

And so in that moment, it was like my. I always like to call it my villain origin story, where, like, I. But I'm so grateful for that.

[Stephen]

I can't imagine her in the room, like, fucking.

[Desi Perkins]

I was. No, I walked out and I remember I was crying, and I told Stephen, like. Like, I really thought. Like, I really poured my whole life into this thinking that, like, as if it was my own, you know, and it wasn't. It never was. And I remember looking at him and saying, like, I. I want to just. Let's. I can't work. I can't do that. I can't go back. Like, let's. Let's do our own thing. And he. He looked at me and said, let's do it. And that's when Desi was started. Yeah.

[Josh]

That's crazy. And they're way sicker.

[Desi Perkins]

And I. I love that you love them.

[Josh]

I love them. And you know what's crazy is I went to Nordstrom's recently, and that brand was around there. And then Desi Eyewear was somewhat next to it.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And those other ones look dusty as. And your. Was gleaming. Like your. Was shiny. Like, sick.

[Desi Perkins]

You know, it's like. It's so interesting because, like, in that moment, I was so upset, and I was like, oh, my God. But now looking back in retrospect, I'm like, I'm so grateful for that.

[Josh]

For sure.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm so grateful for one. The opportunity, because. Cause there was people on that Team that rode with me. And to be honest, I hired them after for my own brand.

[Stephen]

Oh, wow.

[Josh]

That's awesome.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. And I would have never found my love for designing eyewear. I always knew I wanted to be a designer, but I didn't realize it was gonna be eyewear until that moment. So I'm grateful for that, and I'm grateful for that, man. I'm so thankful, because I love when people tell me I can't do something. Cause I'm like, just watch. And. And I just now designed custom sunglasses for Beyonce for her cowboy car draw.

[Stephen]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Custom. Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

She wore four pairs. Yeah. On the tour.

[Stephen]

How did that happen? Like, did she hit you up? Is she sliding your DMs?

[Desi Perkins]

I'm still, like, just in shock about it. So when she announced Cowboy Carter, I'm such a huge believer in manifestation and making sure that you're writing things down, not just, like, speaking them into existence, but have a notebook and write everything down. Like, I remember I wrote down the brands and everything, and I wrote down Cowboy Carter on the top of this sketch pad. And I sketched sunglasses for Beyonce. For Cowboy Carter.

[Stephen]

This is before you even had a conversation with her?

[Desi Perkins]

No, no conversation. Like, never in my mind did I think she. No one was gonna reach out to me. Like, I just said, in the case that anyone reaches out to me, I will have a pair ready to go. I designed it. I'm like. And I sat there. I remember Ocean was sitting next to me when I designed it, and he was watching me do it. And then months later, we get the. The message saying, like, hey, we'd love to get on a zoom and talk about designing for Beyonce for Cowboy Carter. And I was in Mexico when I took the Zoom. Yeah. I was in Mexico and pv, and I was playing. What is it called? Pickleball or something. We were playing pickleball with my cousin, and I said, I gotta get this Zoom real quick.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And we hopped on and we talked about it, and I sent them off. Obviously, there's no guarantee.

[Stephen]

Of course not. Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, you can do whatever, and there's no guarantee if anyone's gonna wear it. And so every single night she performed, I was like.

[Stephen]

Oh, interesting.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. You just don't know. Because as you know, like, even when you have a styling session, they'll put a bunch.

[Stephen]

Of course, it's not personal.

[Desi Perkins]

And it's just, like, if it doesn't go with the outfit, it doesn't go. And I had actually handmade sunglasses that nobody's ever seen still to this day, because. Because the time crunch was so small that I had to do it by hand. Some of them, like, I took preexisting ones, drilled holes, wrapped them in suede, pierced them, like, did all kinds of stuff, like laser etched bandana print into one pair with, like, rhinestones. It was sick. And so every day that she performed, I just was like, my eyes were sitting there waiting, waiting, and then finally I saw the pair and I was screaming. My whole team was screaming. And I just like, where do I go from here? Like, this was incredible. And it's such a strong manifestation moment that I'm like, little. The little Desi in me was like, I'm still emotional about it.

[Stephen]

Have you ever. Did you get a chance to, like, actually talk with her?

[Desi Perkins]

So one night I met her, and the night I met her and got to, like, talk to her because I was doing a deal with Sacred. She had been wearing my sunglasses. This was before Cowboy Carter, but when I met her, she wasn't wearing them, so I didn't know. And then when I got into my Uber, my best friend Katie sent me a picture and was like, bitch. And I said, what is this? And I zoomed and I'm like, oh, my God, she's wearing my sunglasses. And that was like, the start of that relationship where, you know, she had started wearing Desi. And she's worn it a handful of.

[Stephen]

Times now, so it's like, is there a potential collaboration?

[Desi Perkins]

I mean, it's Beyonce. I don't, like, I don't know. I mean, I'm grateful for that moment. And her stylist, who's been so amazing and just, like, constantly, like, being that person that's, like, writing for our brand and putting her in them, and it's huge. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been amazing. Like, I mean, I can't. Usher wore them in his music video. There's been so many moments where I'm like, this is insane. And I'm so glad that that moment happened.

[Stephen]

Are you, like, aware when something like this is going to happen? Like the Beyonce situation, Like, with Usher, did you know that he was going to wear them?

[Desi Perkins]

But potentially.

[Stephen]

So that was just more.

[Desi Perkins]

So the Usher thing was like, I think I'm such a big advocate about, like, writing for, like, just being your number one spokesperson. And. And I'm actually. I had. Remember, I was going to set to work with Sacred, and I know that a stylist was going to be there that, you know, styles, celebrities. So I remember bringing her sunglasses. I, like, saw that she did A lot of male styling. So I brought her this pair of drippy that, like. Like, a lot of guys like to wear. And. And I was just like, here you go. Whatever. I'm giving these to you. Go ahead. Like, she could have kept them for herself, like, whatever she wanted to do with them. And then she ended up putting them on Usher.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

For a music video. And so it was like, that's incredible. Insane. And he was, like, doing interviews in them, and I was just. It was amazing.

[Stephen]

That's so crazy.

[Desi Perkins]

And I think now, too, like, even designing for myself, it's fun because I. I can do whatever I want. Like, I design things, and I don't have anyone being like, that's not commercial enough. Because the ones that aren't commercial, like, I found my audience. They love. Love to be bold. They love to wear, like, fun stuff.

[Josh]

So which. The ones that I really like.

[Desi Perkins]

Pusha.

[Josh]

Yeah, Those are sick.

[Stephen]

Are they like, the bigger ones?

[Josh]

You see me, right?

[Stephen]

Yeah, those are sick.

[Josh]

Yeah, they're sick. I was like, AKA oh, these right here, right?

[Stephen]

Those are fires.

[Josh]

Yeah, he told me.

[Desi Perkins]

Let me get you some. I'm gonna get you.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, can I. I don't have the red ones, though.

[Desi Perkins]

You don't? I'm gonna have to put you on. I'm gonna have to put you on your own pr. I have Karen on the pr, But I feel like you guys are fighting. The girls are fighting.

[Josh]

If you ever need any, like, male models to be on Billboard words, we'll do it for free.

[Desi Perkins]

Okay.

[Stephen]

That would actually be cool.

[Josh]

Wouldn't that be cool? But we don't. We don't ever, like, promote it. It's just. People just know.

[Desi Perkins]

They just know.

[Josh]

They just know. Yeah. No, honestly, congratulations.

[Desi Perkins]

Thank you.

[Josh]

It's huge.

[Stephen]

Thank you. Insane.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

So cool.

[Josh]

And then she still has skincare.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then.

[Stephen]

So what's. What's the story there? What's the villain origin story there?

[Desi Perkins]

So there's no villain origin story with skincare. It's more so that, like, I had a personal experience with, like. Like, really bad skin. And. And then a journey of, like, clearing my skin through social media and having this vulnerable moment where when I just had really, like, my skin was breaking out so bad, I couldn't get rid of this acne. And then it was a time of perfectionism on YouTube where nobody showed their flaws. We were all, like, perfect voiceovers. You look perfect. It was just different. And one day I was. I was reading comments, and everyone was talking about how nice my skin was. They're like, your skin, your skin, your skin. But, like, I had been covering my skin before filming to make sure, like, my. My breakouts weren't so red or.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Desi Perkins]

And I had, like, perfected this technique to do that. And so one day I was like, you know what? I kind of feel like I'm just gonna show them what my skin really looks like and how I make it look like I have perfect skin, but I don't. And that video was, like, the first video that really did so well for me. And I realized that there's so many people that aren't looking for perfectionism and they're having similar struggles. And so I took that, and I was like, let me just. Just continue to fill my journey through skincare. And I started trying different products. And I remember trying this Ula Henriksen toner. And it, again, a happy accident. Steven bought it for me. I was like. I sent him to Sephora. We were on a brand trip, and I was like, my skin was so bad. And I sent him to Sephora to get me a spot treatment. And he came back with this toner, and I was like, a toner. But I started using it, and it, like, really helped my skin. And so it was, like, a big moment where people were calling it the Desi toner. And I just was like, like, you know, I'm really into, like, skin care and doing this and helping people feel better about themselves. So then I started working and developing, Working with chemists and stuff to develop Desi skin. So I was like. As I was launching eyewear, I was simultaneously working on Desi skin. And then we launched it shortly after Eyewear, and it's been doing amazing. And we actually just launched with Sephora, which is.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

Such a dream.

[Josh]

Congratulations.

[Stephen]

With somebody who's, like, struggled with bad skin. I had, like, terrible skin in high school and stuff. And I know that I always would look at people on YouTube with perfect skin, what I thought was perfect skin, and then I would realize that a lot of these people are using, like, makeup and filters and stuff like that. So you having that vulnerability, I. I know how much that meant to people, because I know how much that would have meant to me as, like, a viewer. You know what I mean?

[Desi Perkins]

Right. And I think now people understand that. It's like, we're all going through something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

It's nice to know that you're not alone in Mom. I think a lot of. A lot of my best and most like, like, popular things come from vulnerable moments and vulnerability. Yeah. So, yeah.

[Josh]

Damn. Well, I think we should go on a short break. This is it. And then we'll be right back.

[Stephen]

Cool.

[Josh]

Don't get a buno.

[Desi Perkins]

Me too. What's that? Beer.

[Josh]

What an incredible story. We're having so much fun. It's going by so fast.

[Stephen]

It is, right? It's been an hour.

[Josh]

It's crazy, dude. To go from thinking about skincare stuff with chemists to then designing sunglasses and eyewear. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Stephen]

And seeing how your mind has to, like, jump because.

[Josh]

And then being a mother of two and then still taking this fool out on Friday nights. Holy. Thank you for having time to be on. I appreciate you. Straight up. For real. We'll be right back. All right, let me put my headphones on, because I'm not immersed right now.

[Stephen]

Hurry up and get immersed yourself.

[Josh]

All right, I'm good now.

[Stephen]

Rapid fire. Rapid fire means you have to.

[Josh]

Yes. Want me to start rapid fire? I got him.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

Were you about to mansplain rapid fire to me?

[Stephen]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Josh]

Mansplain.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. That's when, like, a man explains something to you. Like, you don't know. No, it's called mansplain.

[Josh]

Oh, are you sexist?

[Stephen]

No. First of all, I. I was.

[Josh]

Tell him. Tell them.

[Stephen]

You guys can't use that card on me. I was raised by a single mom.

[Josh]

That.

[Stephen]

That's the. I did not say.

[Josh]

Whatever, bro.

[Stephen]

I was gonna do a bit. It wasn't going to be a man's land.

[Josh]

You ran out of gas, bro. You know, his car stopped because he's ran out of gas.

[Stephen]

It's a Jeep.

[Josh]

Twice.

[Stephen]

It's a terrible.

[Desi Perkins]

Honestly, Jeeps are. I had a Jeep before.

[Stephen]

They're, like, notorious for that, bro.

[Josh]

When you're a cocktail server.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. In high school, Jeeps are Jeeps.

[Josh]

You had a Jeep in high school?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I got my.

[Josh]

You're a cool girl.

[Desi Perkins]

Well, it wasn't the cool. No. At the time, the cool girl car was, like, a Nissan Altima, like a Honda Civic. The Civic days where people would get the lights on the back.

[Josh]

It was the cat eyes in the bag. Remember those?

[Desi Perkins]

If you were really rich, you would have, like, the really cool. Like, what was it called? The out. Was it an Audi? No.

[Josh]

Audi.

[Desi Perkins]

Jetta.

[Stephen]

Oh, a Jetta.

[Desi Perkins]

All the girls had a Jetta.

[Josh]

Yeah. Dang. Jetta had us by. By the chokehold.

[Desi Perkins]

So when I pulled up with my Jeep Cherokee, I was like, right?

[Josh]

Oh, it was a Cherokee.

[Desi Perkins]

It was a Cherokee.

[Josh]

Oh, that's cute. Yeah. What was your high school car?

[Stephen]

Mine, bro. My Mom's car.

[Josh]

What was it she had?

[Stephen]

Alexis.

[Josh]

Yeah. Rich boy.

[Stephen]

Anyways, okay, you're on a road trip and you stop at a gas station. What snacks are you getting?

[Desi Perkins]

Reese's Peanut Butter cups, Hot Cheetos and a Cherry Cook.

[Stephen]

You know, there's no right answer to this, but that's the right answer. Just FYI, guy.

[Josh]

You said it, pal. If you were. If you were a bag of chips, what chips would you be?

[Desi Perkins]

I'd be hot Cheetos. I know. It's so cliche.

[Josh]

Regular hot Cheetos.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. And then I. I don't. I. I like regular. And then I put the.

[Stephen]

You season them up?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, yeah. To like, real Mexican with chopsticks so my fingers don't get all red. Yeah, it's real bougie.

[Josh]

Whoa, whoa. I never heard about it.

[Stephen]

I've done forks. I've seen the forks.

[Desi Perkins]

No, I got a little chop.

[Josh]

Mind blowing.

[Desi Perkins]

And I, like, fill the bag with lemon. And then I just.

[Stephen]

Wow. I'm gonna do that. What is your all time favorite movie? This is a very.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I want to say Devil Wears Prada, but like, I love that.

[Stephen]

That's all.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I really love that.

[Josh]

That's all.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, that's all.

[Stephen]

I love that movie.

[Desi Perkins]

So many movies.

[Stephen]

That's a great movie. They're making a second one, which I can't wait for.

[Josh]

I know.

[Stephen]

Is that what you're going for? I think that's good. I think that's good. I think that's a solid answer, sister.

[Josh]

It's a great movie. Yeah. Mine is Nine of the Roxbury. What's one of your guilty pleasures?

[Desi Perkins]

Guilty pleasures? I don't feel guilty doing anything.

[Josh]

Oh, come on, man. Guilty pleasure.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, why feel guilt? Just do it.

[Stephen]

Oh, that's the answer. What is the last song you've had on repeat?

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, my God. You guys are gonna laugh at me. You won't even know what it is. Golden. But if you're a parent, you know, K Pop Demon Hunters, it's like.

[Stephen]

Oh, no, no. I'm thinking about a different song.

[Josh]

K Pop Demon Hunters. That's where you're at in life right now.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes, that's where I'm at in life.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm hearing it in my head the whole time, you guys.

[Josh]

I respect it. Okay. Okay. Amazing answer.

[Desi Perkins]

It's a good soundtrack.

[Josh]

What's your purse? What's your personal version of hell?

[Stephen]

That's such a good question.

[Desi Perkins]

Personal version of hell? Oh, well, I. I mean, I don't know about hell, but I really don't like to be hungover. As a parent.

[Stephen]

That's a good one.

[Josh]

That's actually a great answer. That's what I would say.

[Stephen]

Yeah. It's hungover.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, imagine them hungover.

[Stephen]

You're hungover, but you still have to.

[Desi Perkins]

Be a mom when you're like, I. I choose wisely. That's why I like a day drink. Because by the time, you know, like, I can. Yeah, I can recover.

[Josh]

That's smart, dude. That.

[Stephen]

That was a perfect answer. What is your idea of a perfect day?

[Josh]

Day.

[Desi Perkins]

A perfect day. This is easy. Okay. Waking up, coffee in bed. My son brings it to me. My husband brings it to me. Me and my daughter be chilling in bed, watching Peppa pig for, like, 15 minutes. And then I go down and I go to my garden. We spend the day in the garden. We have music blasting outside. The kids are running around. We swim a little bit, and we just chill and maybe, like, order some pizza.

[Stephen]

I love that.

[Josh]

Sounds like my perfect.

[Desi Perkins]

I just had that day, like, last week. That's why I was like, that is my perfect day.

[Josh]

Okay. I love that the girly pops are known to have three drinks with them at any given time. What is Desi Perkins sipping on?

[Desi Perkins]

O.

[Josh]

Like, what's your three go to drinks?

[Desi Perkins]

I guess tequila.

[Josh]

Okay. Straight.

[Desi Perkins]

Straight.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm not really a mixed drink.

[Stephen]

No. Maybe tequila soda, maybe.

[Desi Perkins]

Maybe. But typically, I'm like, shot.

[Josh]

Like, just give it to me. Just give me a shot.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes. And then I don't like any mixed drinks, really. So tequila. I love a beer.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And champagne right now is kind of my thing when I'm just trying to feel, like a little. A little sexy. A little.

[Josh]

Got it.

[Desi Perkins]

You know, when I walk into an event, like, nothing too serious.

[Josh]

Nobody ever judges you when you drink champagne. Oh, I'm gonna go get a beer. I'm gonna get a. A shot. Oh, you're going to get faded tonight. But when you drink champagne, it's like, oh, okay.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, cool.

[Stephen]

It's almost like, why is that? I don't know.

[Desi Perkins]

It's a little classy. Yeah.

[Stephen]

It's like, oh, they're. They're not doing too much.

[Josh]

They're just like, next time I'm going be like, yo, I'm going to just go get some champagne real quick, but really take a shot.

[Desi Perkins]

It's basically soda water, so.

[Josh]

Yeah, I love that.

[Stephen]

What is your favorite? Fast food. Plus, I need your full order from that fast food spot.

[Desi Perkins]

I mean, I'm going to have to say in and out. I do love. I love Me some in and out. I get a number two with grilled onions. I used to get a little.

[Josh]

Wait, number two. It's a regular cheeseburger.

[Desi Perkins]

Regular cheeseburger. I don't like to do too much.

[Josh]

No, no, I don't need. You know what? I respect that. People always do. Number one. And it's actually number two is the. The one. Have you ever had a regular cheeseburger? You know, not a double double.

[Stephen]

No. I go double double, bro. I'm a man.

[Josh]

Okay. All right.

[Stephen]

Do you need me a man? Explain that to you?

[Josh]

Hey, Desi, tell him you're sexy.

[Stephen]

Are you doing. Are you doing a number two?

[Josh]

Are you doing realizing?

[Stephen]

No. You're trying to act up. See, one thing I'm not going to do is pretend. One thing I'm not going to do is pretend.

[Josh]

I realize right now, being with an. Somebody who I grew up with. Huh? That you're sexist.

[Stephen]

Listen, you have your foot on the glass. That's sexist. Okay. Get your foot off the glass.

[Josh]

I paid for this glass. You're sexist.

[Stephen]

No, no, no. We. And I'm realizing that we paid for this glass.

[Desi Perkins]

I fighting.

[Josh]

I'm realizing that.

[Desi Perkins]

You know what? I'm going to say one thing. The toilet seat was down, so I feel like everyone here is good.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I know one thing about me. Toys is always going to be down.

[Desi Perkins]

You appreciate that?

[Josh]

Okay, can I say something that might be tmi and I always think about this.

[Desi Perkins]

Okay, tell us.

[Josh]

Because we've been back to back Dodger games recently. And what I realized is when I go to the toilet and be real with me, both.

[Desi Perkins]

I'm gonna be so real with you.

[Josh]

Well, actually, it doesn't really. It doesn't. Because girls, like, down go through this. But I don't know, maybe mainly for you, Josh. But just hear me out. And hear me out, too, Stephen.

[Stephen]

We're listening.

[Josh]

When you go to a toilet, whether it be at a guest house or at an event or at a stadium or whatever, you're at a random toilet and you see piss on the seat. Yeah. Are you wiping that? If. If real talk.

[Stephen]

If I'm just gonna pee.

[Josh]

No, if you're gonna. You. You have to put your pants down.

[Stephen]

What do you think? Like, what do you. What do you think? Do you think? I'm not wiping that.

[Josh]

I'm sorry, let me rephrase my question.

[Stephen]

What do you. What do you think?

[Desi Perkins]

That was a really good answer. What do you think? Yes. For as a woman, I am taking a large wad of toilet paper. So that I don't get any contact and I'm wiping it down. Then I'm putting a seat cover and another seat cover.

[Stephen]

Is that not doubling up?

[Josh]

So you do see covers.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, Unless I'm really drunk and then I just kind of. And then I'll just hover.

[Josh]

Can I say something right now? I cheek it all the time.

[Stephen]

Yeah. He's known in our friend group for cheeking it. So anytime Sebas goes into it, I'm talking to Karen. Anytime goes into a restroom, our friend group, where we're all like hanging out, whatever he's like, we just say, Sebas is cheeking it right now. That's the thing that we say when he's. He's in the bathroom.

[Desi Perkins]

So it's known. Like, you talk about it.

[Josh]

It's almost now. Like, I'm proud of it.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I was gonna say that. I was like, you sound proud to take it.

[Stephen]

So you're. But you're not wiping.

[Josh]

Sorry, let me rephrase that question.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

When you go to a toilet and you see piss around it, right? Because be pissing on that.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. We've established the piss on the.

[Josh]

Right, Right. And the lids there. So there's piss around it. Okay. If it's somebody else's piss and you just took a piss, are you wiping it for the next person? Are you leaving it?

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, if you're standing.

[Josh]

If you're standing. Because like the next person, you don't. If it's my piss. And I asked because it happens.

[Stephen]

Okay. That's a different question.

[Desi Perkins]

How did we get here?

[Stephen]

Great question.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Desi Perkins]

How did we get here?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Desi Perkins]

Not sitting.

[Josh]

I'm just saying, like out of a. Out of like respect. Cuz like, say you pee neck, you pee after me and I'm going leave all the residue. If it's my piss, I'mma wipe that. If it's somebody else's piss, I'm leaving it.

[Stephen]

Like, if it already came with piss.

[Josh]

Yeah, if it already came with piss, I'm leaving it, bro. And I'll let you know that's not my piss. And I'm not touching that.

[Desi Perkins]

Like, when you walk out and you make eye contact with the person coming.

[Stephen]

In, you're like, not my piss.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's not me. What do you do? You wiping the rat? No. Right.

[Stephen]

It just depends on the mood, bro. If I'm at a sporting event, probably not. I'm in and out. You know what I mean? I'm not thinking about it that deep. But if it's like at a airport or something. Maybe I'm a little more considerate. Okay, that's just mine.

[Josh]

I just realized. Why are we talking about this?

[Desi Perkins]

I. I tried to. To make you realize she never finished.

[Josh]

All I can see is a sexist in front of you.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I was talking about my order, and next thing you know, we're talking about piss and toilets. Eat.

[Josh]

So I'm like, okay, next question.

[Stephen]

Desi Perkins, you're in and out.

[Josh]

Order.

[Stephen]

What if I would?

[Desi Perkins]

Okay, number two, grilled onions. Sometimes I'll get extra lettuce, because sometimes they'd be stingy. Sometimes they're stingy with the lettuce. And I like a good proportion. That way I can, like, take some out. That's a rare chopped chilies.

[Stephen]

People don't do extra.

[Josh]

She likes the crunch.

[Desi Perkins]

I love the crunch. I like.

[Josh]

And it has great lettuce. You know how to say lettuce in Spanish? Good. Good girl.

[Desi Perkins]

And then.

[Josh]

Good girl.

[Stephen]

I like this version of Sebastian. I don't like this version of seven, by the way.

[Josh]

Good girl.

[Stephen]

No, don't.

[Desi Perkins]

But why'd you have to say it like that?

[Josh]

Like, girl, me and Josh, you know, we. We've done. We. We've done it. We've. We've done our thing. Don't worry about it, sweetheart.

[Stephen]

But, girl, extra lettuce.

[Desi Perkins]

Okay?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

And then French fries, and I don't really like their drinks. I always say, like, when I say Sprite and they say I only have seven Up, I'm like, that's criminal.

[Stephen]

That is.

[Desi Perkins]

So I get a lemonade sometimes just to get it. But is it my favorite?

[Stephen]

No, no, the lemonade is not your favorite.

[Desi Perkins]

It's a little much sometimes.

[Josh]

Diet Coke.

[Desi Perkins]

I can't do Diet Coke. It gives me a headache.

[Josh]

Really?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. A migraine. Massive.

[Stephen]

That's why you did the.

[Josh]

The.

[Desi Perkins]

I can't.

[Stephen]

All right, what are your go to, Desi? Eyewear frames.

[Josh]

You have a go to do you just skip me?

[Stephen]

You over here talking about toilet seats and piss, and I'm gonna have to.

[Desi Perkins]

Say, like, the aviator blueprint, because it's like. Like the original design that I did. That's like my go to. And it never goes out of style and probably booked. It's like a simple go to style that I like.

[Stephen]

Can I be on your PR list? Rapid fire.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes, of course. And I got to put you on our list, cuz. See, I thought you guys. I thought you and Karen were sharing, but apparently I'm hearing that she don't share. Yeah, that you guys aren't sharing, so.

[Josh]

And I, I want my own.

[Desi Perkins]

I'll, I'll send you your own.

[Josh]

And I'm ask Josh. I'm a huge sunglass.

[Desi Perkins]

No, I know you are.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, we huge sunglass.

[Desi Perkins]

No, I'll put you on pr.

[Josh]

Yeah, like, one thing about me is I'll spend whatever flex on any sunglasses as long as, like, I like them. I'm a huge sunglass guy.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, so you're going to buy them?

[Josh]

I'll buy them.

[Desi Perkins]

Did you hear? I got money to spend on eyewear.

[Stephen]

I will spend.

[Josh]

Don't put me on your PR list.

[Stephen]

I'll buy them.

[Josh]

It doesn't matter what you saying, cuz you know why you're sexist.

[Stephen]

That's the next question.

[Josh]

Dude, what's the most fun part about being a mom?

[Desi Perkins]

When you see their personalities and they're funny or they like, they're quick with you.

[Stephen]

That's cool.

[Josh]

Oh, really?

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, like they get you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

You know when they outsmart you, I'm like, okay, I like that. Yeah.

[Stephen]

Best advice you've ever got, personal and or business related.

[Desi Perkins]

Best advice I ever got was business. And it was everything will go wrong. You have, your job is to learn to pivot and work with everything going wrong. And like, once you realize that, you live in acceptance of things going wrong and you just become a better boss because you're like, okay, here's a problem. How do we pivot? And that's the best advice because now I don't anticipate everything going right. I'm always ready to, like, problem solve.

[Stephen]

That's beautiful.

[Josh]

It's beautiful. That was, that was the fast fire rapid questions for Desi Perkins. Yeah. Yeah. Desi, I truly want to thank you from the bottom of our hearts, cuz our hearts are connected.

[Desi Perkins]

I, I, I can see that. No, I noticed. I noticed there's something here.

[Josh]

That's my little boy. We want to thank you for being on the podcast. I know all the girly paws back at home. I don't know if you know this, but 90% of our audience is beautiful women.

[Stephen]

It's true.

[Desi Perkins]

You know, that doesn't surprise me.

[Josh]

It doesn't.

[Desi Perkins]

It does not surprise me.

[Josh]

So we want to thank you for being on La Platica. I hope it's not the last time.

[Stephen]

That you ever got a running back.

[Josh]

Thank you for being on. Thank you, Stephen, for being on. For me personally, it's, it's almost like an accomplishment for myself because I've known you guys for so long. It feels really Good.

[Desi Perkins]

It feels good seeing you doing, like, crazy big things. And thank you accomplishing all. Both of you guys doing the damn thing.

[Josh]

I. I have to thank this man right here and. And the team behind it as well.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah. You guys are killing it.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, likewise.

[Josh]

So I would love to see you guys in Riverside.

[Stephen]

You got to come to a live show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

It's a. It's a different. It's a different animal energy.

[Desi Perkins]

I love a good energy.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. And when you go back to Puerto Vallarta, we would love also to come with you guys.

[Desi Perkins]

Oh, yeah. You guys would have fun. My family would love.

[Stephen]

Let's pull up.

[Desi Perkins]

Up.

[Josh]

Yeah. Are you down?

[Stephen]

Super down, bro.

[Josh]

I'm so down.

[Desi Perkins]

I don't care about anything other than bring your girlfriend.

[Stephen]

Yes.

[Desi Perkins]

Bring Karen.

[Josh]

Yes. Wouldn't that be epic? But listen, should we do, like, a whole brand trip around it?

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, Desi, I wear skin.

[Desi Perkins]

Yes.

[Josh]

Like, we can do libre salute, Whatever.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, we should do a brand trip like that.

[Stephen]

Dude, that would be epic.

[Josh]

Yeah, but just us.

[Stephen]

No invites. Just us.

[Josh]

And we'll. And we'll gift each other drones. Remember, we would have the DJI Osmo, but it was the one that you had to put your phone on. Oh, yes. How old are we?

[Desi Perkins]

The long stick.

[Josh]

Yeah. Right?

[Desi Perkins]

And now it's like the little tiny.

[Josh]

And now it's a pocket. I love that thing. Yeah. Desi, I wish you nothing but success in your future. Obviously, that's already a given. You're a beautiful wife, beautiful daughter.

[Desi Perkins]

Thank you.

[Josh]

Beautiful business owner. Thank you so much for being on ladies. Me and Josh really appreciate it. Steven, I appreciate you for coming as well. It's so good seeing you guys.

[Stephen]

Yes.

[Josh]

I hope everybody back at home enjoy La Platica. We have Scottsdale tomorrow.

[Stephen]

It already happened.

[Josh]

It already happened. Yeah. We have San Jose October 17th. Get your tickets now. You're gonna miss out if you're in the bay. Central California, whatever. Make the trip. Just drive. I'll pay you for the gas money. Kylie. We have Riverside November 8th.

[Desi Perkins]

8Th. Invoice him for the gas.

[Josh]

November 8th. We got Riverside. We're closing out the tour in Riverside. I lived in Riverside for. For many years. It's very special to me. I. E. Baby, it's gonna be cracking.

[Stephen]

It's gonna be cracking.

[Josh]

Ladies and gentlemen, Desi Perkins. In the building.

[Stephen]

In the building. Wait, hold on. Can I get my exit? Because you're just taking over.

[Josh]

You're sexist.

[Stephen]

Listen.

[Desi Perkins]

Yeah, I want to hear from Josh.

[Stephen]

I. I was really excited. Excited about this podcast. I'm very inspired by your story and your upbringing and. And just hearing how you are as a. As an individual, as a mother, and the whole finger thing and just seeing your daughter, like, emulate that. But what's beautiful about that is she's going to emulate so much more of you.

[Josh]

I love it.

[Stephen]

You have the whole package, and you're. You're. It's. It's. It's shown. And I'm very proud of you, and I'm excited for you, and I'm inspired by you, and I'm just really glad that I got the opportunity to sit with you and meet Stephen, really, for the first time. And this is the first time. Thank you for your presence. Thank you for your heart, your vulnerability, your story, your inspiration, and thank you for coming on. Means a lot.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

So nice. That was really sweet. Like, that was very, very nice. Thank you guys. I appreciate that. You guys are amazing. I loved being on the show. It was so fun. Thank you for the shots.

[Stephen]

Yes.

[Desi Perkins]

The good times. I don't want to leave, actually, but.

[Josh]

Yeah, I mean, you can kick it after, so whatever you guys want. Yeah, we appreciate you, Desi. For real, though, this was amazing, and I'm really excited to show the girly paws.

[Stephen]

Oh, they're Gonna love this. 115. 215. 215 in the books. Wow. Desi Perkins, everybody, Forever.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Stephen]

There it is.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Desi Perkins]

You guys are amazing.

[Josh]

I already finished my dream.

[Stephen]

Happy Monday. Enjoy the rest of your week. Love you guys. Tune in next Monday.

[Desi Perkins]

Bye.

[Josh]

And then say, say go.

[Desi Perkins]

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