
Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPLATICA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount You know the brand, but do you know the story? This week Leonardo Sandoval, aka the man behind Dandy Hats, opens up on the poddy about his passion and his journey. Dandy tells Josh and Sebas all about how he felt destined for big things, how he put in the work and landed a major collab with the iconic Mexican boxer - Canelo Alvarez. This is how Dandy hats went from dreams to reality, and made a few million along the way. 😮💨 Stay up to date with everything Dandy! IG: https://www.instagram.com/dandyhats TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dandyhats? While you’re here, follow the Poddy on all socials 🫶🏼 IG: @laplatica TikTok: @LaPlaticaPod Sebastian Robles - @ayyysebas Josh Leyva - @TheJoshLeyva RESOURCES FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS IMMIGRATION INFORMATION Immigrant Legal Resource Center - https://www.ilrc.org/advanced-search?is...
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Josh
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Ramon
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Josh
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Ramon
We're coming to you, you, you and you.
Josh
We coming to you.
Ramon
We cannot wait to go to Texas. Special guests in Texas.
Josh
Maybe I think we should have some special guests in Texas.
Ramon
I know some people in Texas.
Josh
We, we, we know some people in Texas. We got five more dates for you guys for potentially the last time ever. Potentially, Potentially. We want to see you guys. This show that we have put together for you guys, I've talked about it before, is something we're both really proud of. And if you get the chance to come hang out with your boys, please do. Information is located below with the dates with the venues. If you heard your city being called out, check below because the boys are coming through.
Dandy
San Jo.
Ramon
We're coming to your city. Wear something cute.
Dandy
Come on, man.
Ramon
We having a night out.
Dandy
Woo.
Ramon
We gonna party with the Platica boys. We in your city. Let's go.
Josh
Oh, it's about to be a party.
Ramon
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Josh
Love you guys. We'll see you guys soon.
Ramon
Noos. You think I should just take it home and edit it myself?
Josh
I think so, yeah.
Ramon
Do you want to do it one more time or no?
Josh
That was perfect, bro.
Dandy
That felt good.
Josh
We can't replicate magic. Can't do it.
Ramon
I like that.
Josh
You know what I mean?
Ramon
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Josh
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Ramon
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Josh
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Ramon
28 million downloads, my boy.
Josh
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Leo
Good.
Josh
What does a red dot mean?
Ramon
Not so good.
Josh
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Ramon
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Dandy
Come on, man.
Ramon
What did you do?
Josh
You know what? Sometimes I feel bad. I hope people don't get annoyed of us because I get annoyed of us.
Leo
You know what I mean? I don't.
Dandy
Me neither.
Josh
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Ramon
Guys, you see Geek, I promise you. Now let's enjoy the show, man. Do a very special guest.
Josh
Very special.
Ramon
We hope that you enjoy it.
Josh
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Ramon
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Josh
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Ramon
So it takes more muscles to frown?
Josh
Yes.
Dandy
Yeah, that. Yeah, exactly.
Ramon
See you soon.
Josh
12.4 seconds. I'm gonna use it.
Leo
Let me be honest.
Ramon
Every guest is a privilege.
Josh
Do we want to go there, get jolly?
Leo
Cause I'm on a podcast with Josh Laver. Hell yeah.
Ramon
You have two.
Leo
Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell you.
Josh
Slate it up, Jess.
Ramon
This is La Platica with dandy hat. Guys, you heard Jessica.
Leo
Yeah, you did.
Ramon
She just slated. Come on, man. If you don't know what slated means, you're going to have to find Jessica and ask her. Welcome to La Platica. Hashtag Mondays don't suck. It's Monday, baby. Another week in the books, my boy.
Josh
Come on, man.
Ramon
Yo, you got D. Josh Lea. Josh. Say something to the crowd, my boy.
Josh
Hey, what's up, baby? How we doing? How we feeling Monday? I love getting started.
Ramon
Let's get it crack. I like the flirty voice. I love it. And this is La Platica. Today we have a special guest. Before I introduce him, this video is sponsored by SeatGeek. Se Geek.
Josh
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Ramon
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Leo
Yes, sir. Dang. I got that.
Ramon
Right. You might know him as the Incredible Dandy Hats, A hat brand that has blown everybody away, has blown the market away.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And if you're not wearing them, you know somebody who's wearing them. Guys, give it up for dandy hats, a.k.a. no, no, it's the other way around. Give it up for le. AKA Dandy Hat.
Josh
Danny in the building. What's up, my boy? How we doing, bro?
Dandy
Good.
Leo
Good, man. Thank you for having me on the call, bro. This is crazy.
Josh
Yeah, bro. So I. I came across you, I want to say, maybe, like, two years ago, and I feel like a lot of people might think of you as, like, an overnight success, and I don't think that's the case. Right. Like, can you kind of tell us, like, the backstory, kind of fill us in, let us know who Dandy is, you know, from the beginning.
Ramon
For real. For real.
Leo
For real, man. Bro. So I think Dandy, you know, before Dandy was Dandy, he was Leo, right? I'm still Leo, but, like, you know, back then, bro, I mean, my parents had businesses. A business, yeah, which was, you know, my dad started his entrepreneurship when I was, like. I. I want to say, like, seven years old. He made. He got a lunch truck in La Puente, California.
Ramon
Wow.
Leo
Yeah. You know, so, you know, I remember I've been working since. Since being, like, nine years old, bro, with my pops, you know, with the lunch truck and stuff. So I started very early, like, kind of like, you know, all this entrepreneurship with my dad and stuff like that. I saw. I saw. And I'm. I worked from 9 till I was, I want to say, like, 12 with my dad now, till I was, like. Till I just stopped, like, working with him, bro. Which was. I think, when I was 27, I stopped working with my dad.
Ramon
Wow.
Leo
So, I mean. Yeah, bro. I mean, we. I. You know, I grew up, you know. You know, parents love me. You know what I mean?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And, you know, they raised me right. You know, they raised a good. I feel like a good. A good son. And, yeah, man, we come. You know, my dad comes from the gutter, too, so he just kind of passed me the torch and be like, hey, son. Like, you know, I kind of went my own way in a. In a different way and doing restaurants. You know what I mean?
Dandy
Oh, yeah.
Leo
But, yeah, man, I'm just, you know, Leo. I'm a normal guy, you know, just like everyone else.
Ramon
You really are, bro. For real. And that's. That's what I love about you, too, you know? Does your dad still have the lunch? The. The launcher?
Leo
No, he does. He actually has a restaurant here in Glendale.
Ramon
No way.
Leo
Yeah.
Ramon
So what's it called?
Leo
Victoria's Tacos.
Ramon
Let's roll. Right after this, guys go to Glendale. Victoria's Tacos, my boy. It would be sick if that was, like, a speakeasy at Victoria's Tacos, and it was like, a speakeasy, and then it has all your hats that people can buy.
Leo
That would be sick, huh?
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And nobody knows.
Josh
That's actually pretty fire.
Ramon
And then your dad, like, sells them for, like, resale.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Double the price. No kickback.
Ramon
Just.
Leo
It's funny, you know, people go to the. Because, like, I'm telling you, like, I used to work at the restaurant, right? So a lot of people go and ask for me, like, hey, man, oh, no way. I seen your son killing it and stuff like that. And I was like, yeah. Like, can you give me a hat? I mean, I was like, oh, no. I don't really get involved with my son's business and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's pretty dope, man. I used to work. I mean, I used to drive from. I live in the West Covina.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I would drive from West Covina to Glendale. Like, right now, driving over here, bro, it's kind of like, damn, bro.
Josh
Missing.
Leo
Yes. It's just like, man, I'm driving in my Lambo, you know, all the way.
Ramon
Isn't that crazy?
Leo
And I'm thinking about, like, damn. I would drive over here when I was like, you know, working with my pops, and I'm just like, damn. I would think about the mo. Like, I would think about that moment that I just had right now driving over here like, damn, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be somebody one day. I'm gonna be driving my Lambo one day. And just every time I come on that freeway on the 210 or on the 5, I'm just like, damn. I always. I always. I never forget, bro. I'm like, I would drive through this for you to go work. My dad. I was heated to go to work.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
But I'm like, you know, I got tired of driving on that free and be like, man, bro, what the hell am I doing? My life and, you know, driving right now to the free, I'm just like, hell, yeah. Like, I did.
Dandy
I mean. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Josh
I want. I want to take it to, like, going into how you got started with the hats. Like, what made you go into that? Like, your. Your inspiration, all of that.
Leo
Yeah.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Okay. So Check this out. So back in 2015, one of my. One of my cousin, one of my family's friends, he would sell hats. You know, his name's J.C. hats. I don't know if you guys ever heard about him, but he's like, he. He is a big, like, big brand in Mexico. So I remember, you know, like, you know, immature mind this. Who pulls up in a brand new bands, white bands, gets off, he looks fresh. And I'm just like, damn. Like, you know, what does he do? You know, what does that guy do? I see people taking pictures with him and I'm like, damn, damn, I want that. Like, what does he do?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Oh, he sells hats. And I'm like, he sells hats. Like. And you get, like, you get famous off selling hats. I'm like, damn, I want to do that too.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
So that's how, like, that's how. That was the inspiration.
Josh
That was the click where you were like, I could do this.
Leo
Yeah. And I feel like it's kind of like with everything, right? Like, you know, that's kind of like what motivates you in the beginning. Like, damn. Like, you know, he's making money off that. Like, I want to try it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So, I mean, you know, so I started back in 2015. That's when Dandy had started. Wow, bro.
Josh
10 years.
Leo
In 10 years.
Ramon
10 years.
Josh
Definitely not an overnight success. You grind it.
Leo
Yeah, but I remember, like, it was. It was crazy, you know, I would. I remember I would drive from my house all the way to L. A to drop off one hat and make 25 bucks.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
You know, I mean, I was grinding, bro. Like, I grinded. I gr. Like I built this, like. And it has, like, it just didn't grow overnight. Like, it has a foundation.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Yeah, I did it. I did everything you can think of that you need to do for a business. Yeah, I did it.
Josh
So you learned, like, the hot water manufacturer designs of the hats, everything.
Leo
I would hype hats.
Ramon
A bunch of trial and error too, right?
Leo
I learned how to design. Like, I wanted this so bad, bro. Like, I wanted it bad that I was like, you know, I'm telling you, I would drive from my house to my dad's restaurant, and I would think, like, man, what the hell am I doing? Like, I. But the cool thing, that. What's crazy, right? That I would. I would drive and I'll be like, man, when is my time going to get here? Like, I'm like, right naive of me and, like, I'm special. Like, yeah, I'm going to Be somebody. But, like, I'm already 27, bro. What the hell am I going to do? I'm working on my past, making a thousand bucks, wasting a thousand bucks during.
Josh
The week, broke on some bullshit.
Leo
Some bullshit, you know, And I'm just like, damn, what the hell is going to happen, bro? Until I started, like, watching some. I started watching podcasts, bro. I started watching Gary Vee. Oh, yeah, for me, bro, Gary Vaynerchuk, he's fired. If I see that film, I'll shake his hand and be like, bro, you.
Dandy
Yeah, you.
Leo
You know, you made me who I am. You know what I mean? So I remember just little by little, just watching podcasts because I'm. Because, you know, back to 2015, I started 2015, but then I would, like, I would do dandy hats, but then I would stop. As soon as I would make some money, I would stop, waste the money. And when I needed some money, I would go back then and do it again. And then it was just like, on and off.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Until 2021 came, bro. And I was like, I was tired of where I was at, you know, I was. You know, I would work from 3pm to 10pm every day. I would wake up at, you know, I would go to sleep at 12, I would go see back at 2 in the morning, wake up at 10, eat, go back to sleep, and then go to work. So I was very, like. I was very, like, depressed, bro. Like, to the point I'm like, damn, bro, what the hell am I doing?
Josh
Like, there's like, it's got to be more to life.
Leo
I just eat, sleep, and work, and that's what I do. And I. And I. The funny thing I would tell myself, like, I want to rest before I go to work, but I just woke up and I just had eight. I want to rest to go to work, bro. And my life was like that. And I just got to the point where I'm like, damn. So I just started, like, you know, watching podcasts. And then I remember watching a podcast, and Gary was like, you know, do what you're good at. Do what you're good at. And I was like. I would sit back, and I remember he's like, try everything you wanted. Try everything that you want to do. So I remember I started, like. I started cleaning shoes because I thought, oh, I'm gonna start cleaning shoes. I started doing, like. I started helping my dad more in the restaurant. Like, be more involved. Like, hey, dad, we should, like, remodel this.
Ramon
Got it.
Leo
Put this over here. Let's Because I was learning from Gary Vee. You know what I mean?
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
You were doing things that you probably were already thinking about, but you never even wanted to mention them because that's like your pops thing. But like now you really wanted to put your spark into things.
Leo
Yeah, because I started learning about the business, bro, and learning about like, you know, how to bring customers in and stuff like that. So then I remember, like, I was just like, you know what? Let's. I put everything what he said to practice, bro. And I just started like, I was like, what do I. What am I good at and what do I love to do? I was like, well, I used to make. I would make cash before and I would make good money. Like, like, let me go in there 100%, you know? And yeah, bro, I freaking went in there and it was when all this like Corios tombow was happening.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
And like, you know, like people needed like a hat to wear that like that embodied that. Yes. Like, no one had, no one was doing that at the time. Everyone was more worried about like the flat brim hat. And I remember that that's when like kill the hype, you know?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
He was doing his thing. I'm like, damn. Like, how can I be a kill the hype?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
To the, to the killer.
Ramon
He's very nice guy.
Leo
I never, I never met him or anything like that, but shout out to him. So then I, I saw that he was doing like the LA logos and stuff like that upside down. And I was like, damn, bro. Like, what if I would do the Mexican team logos upside down?
Dandy
Oh.
Leo
And I was like, oh. So I started like, I did it like, I went with that, bro. And I started buying jerseys from Alisco and I would like put fits together with the, with the, with the jerseys and the hat and that's kind of like where it took off. It went from.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
And I was like one of the first, first hat brands on Tick Tock. Like I was one of the first.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
So I remember like, I would go on Instagram and I would post like, you know, I still had my followers.
Josh
Like just pushing the hat. Not Tick Tock shop. Right. Like promoting the hat.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Doing videos.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And I remember like, you know, cuz on Instagram it's kind of harder to go viral, you know, but then I would post my stuff on Tik Tok and it would get a thousand views and I would sell every day when I would post and I was just like, damn. So I just started posting consistently every day and it Just went from one thing to another, bro. And now we're. I was just like, I built that. That tik tok from zero followers. So I think right now we have like 600k. We just hit 600k.
Josh
What year is this? When it really started, like, taking off?
Leo
I think 2000 and 2023, I think is when it's kind of like, you know, we started like, you know, that's.
Josh
That's the part of the time I found out about you too.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Do you feel like Covid helped you out or do you feel like it? Like, what were the challenges during that time?
Leo
So check it out. I think. I think the whole thing, what happened with Kobe was. Was good because, you know, I never wanted to, like, I never thought about being like this, like, this hype brand.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I never thought. I just, like, you know, that for me, never thought, never occurred to me, like, oh, I should make limited hats until, you know, it was covet. You know, like, all the ports were closed. So what I would do, I would go to LA and I would go buy a white with blue hat, right? And I would buy a white and I would buy a black with red and so on and so forth. So then I would do, like, the Jalisco is blue, right? So I would do the Jalisco hat on. The blue hat.
Ramon
You mean like the Charlo baseball?
Leo
Yeah, the Chatro baseball.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I would try to do the same, mimic the same colors. So then I will sell those 12 hats out, and then I would go back to LA and be like, hey, I need some more blue hats. And they'll be like, but we don't have no more blue hats. So I was like, damn, bro. So I would have to pick another color.
Josh
So you got to do another design.
Leo
I had to do another. I mean, it's not the same design, but on a different hat.
Ramon
And you were just buying 12.
Leo
And I was just buying 12.
Ramon
That's so crazy.
Leo
Yeah.
Ramon
So to think, like, to me, when you say that you really love doing that.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Ramon
Like, to buy 12 hats and wanting to sell 12 hats, it's a lot of hats to sell, right? It is, but just 12 hats. Just say, Hey, I need 12.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
That's so cool.
Leo
So that's how this whole. That's how this whole, like, hype thing happened. Because I would go. And they didn't have that hat, that blue hat. So then I would sell those 12 out and I would go buy a white with blue. And once I would sell those out, I went back and they didn't have both of them, so I had to start switching the colors. So then that kind of like, you know, like a. Like a light bulb of my brain pop out, like, okay, like, people are coming to me and trying to buy the last hat I took out, but I don't have it no more, so they just buy the one I do have. So then I went into, like, the hype marketing.
Josh
It just creates demand.
Leo
Yeah. So I went straight into, like, how supreme works. Nike works.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And I took that by the bull, like the horns, bro. And I just roll with it, man. And, like, for me, at least, like, you know, I took this type of marketing to, like, a whole different space where people didn't know that existed. So that's what blew up my brand hard. Because, like, you know, there was like, you know, my customers are more like Mexican. Mexican Americans. So they've never seen that type of marketing. They would be like, bro, you're dumb. Like, why aren't you selling more ads?
Josh
Right?
Leo
Yeah, because I don't want to. Because, like, it's done. If it's done, it's done.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And you got it.
Ramon
You got it.
Leo
If you didn't.
Josh
That is what it is.
Ramon
It's the power of supply and demand.
Leo
And I. And I kept my brand like that, bro. Like, I was. I had a vision, and I'm like. And people be like, bro, make more hats. I'm like, nah, I don't want to make more hats. And to this day, bro, I'm like, I don't want to make a hundred thousand hats. Like, I'm chilling. Like, I'm cool. Making 20, 30. Like, that's enough. That's enough.
Josh
Which is still a ton of hats.
Ramon
That's still a lot of ass, bro.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
Wow, bro.
Ramon
Damn, Dandy.
Leo
So dandy came out because at the time back in 2015, there was a corrido called those muchachos by grupo Tresa Centa. And. And then that. It says dandy. So in one. In. In the verses, this is dandy. I don't really know the song to sing it, but it said dandy. And I looked up dandy.
Josh
It's like, everything's all good. Everything's dandy.
Leo
Everything's dandy. Dandy is a guy that knows how to dress, has money, has style.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And I'm like, well, dandy's dandy. It is.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
So dandy. At the time, even for me right now, everyone says, like, dandy's so cool. And at the time, I thought it was so, like, that's kind of whack. Like, but now it's like, now everyone's like, bro, that's just, like, created a movement.
Josh
Bro, you made it cool.
Ramon
Yeah, that's a cool name.
Josh
But, like, you really took it to another level.
Ramon
I always tell a lot of people, because sometimes we get so fixated on, like, what things are called. Like, hey, what should I, you know, name my podcast? What should I name my clothing brand? What should I name this product that I want to sell? Name it whatever you want, because at the end of the day, you're the one that's going to put that respect behind that name, you know? You're gonna make that name cool.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
You know, like, there's a. I went to Nordstrom's the other day, and there's a brand called Carrot. I don't know if you've seen it. And when I first looked at, I'm like, who the. Why the would you name a Carrot? Right? But it's popping. It doesn't matter. Yeah, you know, it's cool.
Leo
You make that brand.
Ramon
You make the brand. You make that crack. You can name it whatever you want. People don't care. It's.
Dandy
It.
Ramon
Eventually, it makes itself 100. It's cool.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
So, bro, like, where you're at now, you just did a collaboration with Canelo, which is insane.
Ramon
Congratulations.
Dandy
Thank you.
Leo
Thank you.
Josh
The hats are fire, bro. They're insanely sick. And then you. You did the drop. It was like, what, a week ago? Maybe less.
Leo
No, it was on two days ago. On Sunday.
Josh
Oh, Sunday. And then you sold out within an hour. Less than an hour.
Leo
40 minutes. You know, one hat sold out in four minutes. The other hat took eight minutes. The other hat took 15, and the other one took, like, 40 minutes, 35 minutes, bro.
Josh
Dude, that's insane. I want to talk about that collaboration, how that came about. How was it kicking it with Canelo? Like, that's insane.
Leo
Damn, bro. So it's crazy because, like, you know, like, the cool thing about, like, me and my brand, bro, that everything has become so organic. Like, I don't have to go out and look for anything. Like, like, you know, meeting you is, like, you had know them, and it just comes into, like, that's how my life is. Everything just comes, like, connected. Connected. It's crazy, man. Like, anything I've done, bro, it's been so organic. Meeting people, doing collabs with people. Like, it's been crazy. Like, you wouldn't believe me, like, when I tell you that it's just everything happens so organic. I don't try to.
Ramon
That's so cool.
Leo
I do not try to push anything, bro. Like, if it's going to happen, my hard work is going to speak for itself. And. And that's what's going to bring.
Ramon
I love that.
Leo
The. The. The attention to me. And once somebody wants to do it. When someone thinks I want to do a hat, well, dandy hat's killing it. What's up? Like, I know. I know somebody that knows him. And that's how I went, bro. Like, you know, Canelo was looking for someone to do a collab with, and I happened to do. Had happened to do a business had. Had done a collab with this one person, and this one person knew that person, and then this guy vouched for me, saying, hey, this is the guy that's straight. This is the guy that's gonna pay you. He's now awesome. No dumb stuff.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Like popping. He's it. And yeah, bro, that one person led me to him, and it was kind of like, in the beginning, it was kind of like I was kind of like. Like, I didn't really believe it was gonna happen, so I didn't want really put too much effort into it. But then they came to me like, hey, bro, you don't want to do this stuff or not? And I'm like, hell, yeah. Like, let's do it. Let's run it. And it was just like. It was. It was cool, bro. Like, my thing is that when I do collab, I. I don't like to bug the people I'm working with, because I want them. I want them to. This collab to go so smooth that when they think about doing something else again, they're like, I'd rather go dandy, you know, because, yeah, he does everything. He doesn't call me. He doesn't do nothing. Like, he handles his stuff. He paid me on time, and that's it. So I feel like, you know, it was very cool, bro when I met, you know, so I didn't bother him at all. And they called me, hey, bro, you know, come me Canelo in Lake Tahoe. And I was like, oh, bro, the.
Josh
Hats were already designed.
Leo
Did he.
Josh
How much creative process does he have?
Dandy
Yeah, with that.
Leo
Honestly, he just said, like, just make dope hats.
Josh
Okay.
Leo
I feel like he just created.
Ramon
Really?
Leo
Yeah, he just, like, he trusted you.
Josh
I mean, you're the expert, right?
Leo
Just do your thing, bro. You know, you know what sells, and, you know, you. You do your thing. And I was like, all right, bro, let Me do my thing. And.
Ramon
Yeah, so I love the fact that Canelo being a Mexican legend.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah.
Ramon
Collaborated with a Mexican brand, you know.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
He could have gone to. To New Era, to Nike or anybody.
Josh
Literally anybody.
Ramon
Or, or even, Or. Or even decided to do. Because he has no boxing, no life.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
He could have done his own by himself, but he decided to do it with you, and that is cool, man.
Leo
Yeah. Salute to him. He's like, I said when I met him, bro, he's like, us.
Ramon
Yeah, yeah.
Josh
Hella cool.
Leo
Hella cool. Messes around. But his aura is crazy, though, bro, like, when he walks into the. When he steps in there, it's just like that you feel the. The, like, the great. Yeah. You feel motivated. You feel like some, like, thing that goes into. You're like, like, if this fool can do it, I can do it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know what I mean? And that shit gets me fired up. And, you know, just. Even. Just talking to him, the way he talks, the way he. He sits up, like, everything's just kind of, like, grand.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Just has, like a whole, like, light over him, like.
Ramon
Oh, did you ever watch his video where he was in Guadalajara and he took somebody to his pad and he was trying to show him his Tesla.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And it just didn't want to dance for him, the Tesla. He goes, you know, we'll come back to this because he gave kind of like agriculture agra. What's it called?
Josh
Agriculture.
Ramon
Agricultural digest. You know how when they go to your pad. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Josh
Like a vogue.
Ramon
He did like a vogue type, and that was tight, bro. You should watch it. It's super cool. He's super cool, man. He would sell paletas and, bro, like, it's. Yeah, it's very inspiring.
Leo
And the thing. Even how he treats his team, bro, it's like very, like, I. I peep all that.
Ramon
Oh, really?
Leo
Like, I love that everybody loves each other, you know, like, he really loves his coach. His coach really loves him. His team really loves him. And, you know, even. Just learning from that, like, even though he didn't teach me, like, I can learn by just saying, absolutely.
Josh
Absolutely you can, bro.
Leo
And I came back and I'm just like, you know, I even talked to my team, like, look, man, like, you know, I love you guys and like that, like, you know, like, you know, I know we have some bad times sometimes, and sometimes I'm just upset, you know, sometimes I don't want to talk to nobody, but, like, you know, I feel like, you know, going over there really opened up my eyes and Seeing, like, what a true leader really is. You know what I mean? Like, this guy that is way bigger than me, like, I shouldn't be acting like this or I shouldn't be like this or.
Ramon
So not only did you collab, but you actually learned something from this collab. You were inspired. That's crazy. You probably. That. That's even probably more than what's going to come out of the collab.
Dandy
That.
Ramon
That's like, wow.
Josh
I mean, he'll. You'll take that for the rest of your life, bro.
Leo
You can't pay for that.
Josh
You can't exactly.
Ramon
Can't pay prices.
Leo
It's priceless, bro.
Josh
Was he. How did he feel? Did you talk to him after the collab and stuff?
Leo
Like, after the hat sold out? And so, yeah, he. We FaceTimed them, and he was like, hey, bro, you know, congratulations. You know, you do what you do, man, and this is not going to be the last one. Oh, and you know, he's being cool, bro. Just like, hey, like, how did it go? Like, oh, we could have done this better. Like, we could have done. Like, he's very smart, bro.
Josh
Yeah, he's tuned in.
Leo
Yeah, bro, he's smart. So to the point, like, oh, we could have done this better so it would have sold a little bit faster. I'm like, well, you know, it was a lot of hats. You know what I mean? Like, so. But, you know, he was cool.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
There, you know, I try. Like I said, he has this big thing coming up, and I try not to bug him.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And it's just kind of like, all right, man. Cool. He's like, I'll see you in Vegas so we can play cards. He likes to play cards.
Josh
Yeah.
Leo
So when I went over there to. To. We played cards for, like, 10 hours.
Ramon
No big way. Oh, and like, Tahoe. No.
Josh
Playing what? Like a blackjack hold them.
Leo
It's called Buda. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know how to explain the game too much because I just learned, but it's sick.
Josh
It's fun.
Leo
It's. I mean, bro, playing with Canelo is.
Josh
Just kind of like, you can play Goldfish.
Leo
Whatever, dude. Like, you know, he's. And then the cool thing, bro, he's teaching me, like, this guy is teaching me how to play. Yeah, yeah, I'm over here. He's like, oh, like, oh, no. I got like, Mejora says. And I was like, oh, yeah, look at thing. Oh, like, like, like, cool, dude, bro. Like, he teaching me how to play cards. And, like, I'm Just sitting there like, damn, I'm really here. I'm just looking like.
Ramon
I know I was about to ask you, like, what were you thinking about that moment?
Leo
We got you Toyota. I don't know how you don't think, bro. You're just like. Kind of like, like, what am. Like, what am I doing here? You know? Like, this is like, where have I gotten. You know? Like, this is. I'm just thinking about a bunch of stuff and I'm just crazy because you.
Ramon
Talk about, like, those times when you're just driving to. To work with your pops and you're like, when is my time? You know?
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
You know, at that moment, I think everything was piling up for you in the future. You know what I mean?
Leo
Yeah. And it's cool because, like, you know, at that time, it was kind of like, I'm. I'm stressed out all the time, bro. So, like, when I'm there with him, I'm just kind of like. It kind of. Everything disappears and I'm just kind of. Yeah, that's when I feel. Because at least me, like, I'm not the type of person to be like, oh, yeah, I made it. Or yeah, this, or. Yeah, like, I'm more like, nah, like, I gotta focus. And I never take time for myself to sit back and seen everything I've done. You know what I mean? I don't do that that much. Only when I wake up at two in the morning and go take a piss at my house and I'm like, taking. I'm taking a piss and I'm just like, yeah, this is my house. It's crazy. Like, honestly, like, that's. That happens to me all the time, bro. Until those little times where, like, I'm just kind of like, not. Not all there.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I'm just kind of like, damn, bro, I got all this. Like, this is crazy.
Ramon
That's cool, man. Yeah, that's.
Josh
I love the self awareness that you have and the humility that you carry, bro. And it makes sense. Just kind of hearing, like, your backstory and starting with your pops and seeing him at a young age, being entrepreneur, I. Now I get why you're so, like, humble and you have this. This mindset of, like, wanting more and knowing that you're destined for more. That's super fire.
Ramon
I.
Josh
When you posted that photo of you and Canelo, you posted two go emojis.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
And I love that you did that, bro, because I think that it's amazing that you have this status for yourself. You hold yourself to a high Standard. And I feel like people might look at you and you, you, with all due respect, like, you tend to be flashy, right? Like, you show your cars. And there's two ways people can look at this. They can look at it as, like, well, this fool is just being escreido. He's just showing off, right? Hate on you. Or they can look at it as inspiration and motivation. And if they were just to take the time to listen to you, like, just in this interview, they can see, like, bro, I'm just like, you and me showing you this is just showing you that you can do it as well.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
And I just love that, bro. And, like, and just seeing that and then hearing you, I was like, damn, this is fucking sick.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I feel like a lot of people get the wrong impression of me because of social media, but it's, of course, you know, it's all part of the, you know, it's all part of the brand. You know, I, I, I ripped the brand hard, bro. Like, that's my baby. That's my life. That's what gave me everything. So I rep that thing, like, if it's not like no other. So it's like everything is part of branding. I brand myself very good. I brand my brand very good. And it's like, you know, like, and it's cool, but, you know, it's actually cool. People, people think that you are show off the Yaro. So when they meet you, right, you, you switch it on them so hard and they like you even more. Yeah, it's like, like, damn, this was actually cool. You know what I mean? And I feel like that's even better because I met a lot of people that were like, bro, I thought you were like, of course everybody, right? Yeah. You get it. I bet you.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
And then when they meet you and, and then they know that you're not like that, they even like you even more, bro.
Dandy
Of course.
Leo
So for me, it's just kind of.
Ramon
Like, yeah, it's a good feeling.
Leo
It's. It helps, bro. Like, it helps. Like, you know, the cars help, the jewelry helps. But like, me, I have a lot of cars, but I don't drive my, all my nice cars every day. Like, it's just more for, like, marketing and branding.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know, I drive my Mercedes, you.
Ramon
Know, most of the time.
Leo
Most of the time, bro. Like, I don't like driving like the. Because it's kind of like, it's a lot of attention. It's kind of like, yeah, I don't know. It's Kind of like, oh, I don't want to. Want to hit it. So I'm just. Yeah, I'm a normal dude, bro. You know, like, stressful. I just chill and I just work. And when I need to pop out, you know, I need to pop out. I need to wear my stuff and I need to, you know, present myself good. You know, I throw my jewelry on. I throw everything on. Like, it's like, it's all. It's all. It's all branding and, you know, awareness for the brand.
Josh
How did you learn this, though? Like. Like, where did you figure this out? Is this something, like, just like, you just over time, Is there anybody that.
Ramon
Maybe inspired you or somebody try to replicate that you.
Leo
You know, Honestly, bro, no, I just feel like, you know, I feel like just learning, like, you know, when I watch those Gary Vee podcasts.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Like, you know, I consume so much that I started doing, like, my own little. And the thing is too, like, I would see the rappers, right? Like, rappers wearing chains, and everyone likes the rappers because they have nice stuff. And I'm just like, damn, well, I'm gonna do that too. You know, people are gonna like me because. Or people are gonna think I'm cool because I got nice jewelry on. I got nice shoes. It's just like, I like to put this. I like to put this example, bro. Like, who was the coolest person in elementary school?
Josh
The. The guy with the newest J's, right?
Ramon
J's, or the guy with the cool skateboard.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
The guy that the parents brought him in a nice car.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
So that's how I kind of play my brand, bro. Like, I want to be person.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I want to be the cool person. And the cool person normally always has nice things.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So that's how I look at it, bro. Like, you know, you know, I have a nice car, you know, you know, people are going to be like, oh, he's cool. You know, like I said, it was more of marketing and stuff like that that I feel like that I learned, I guess, just by going by watching peeping. People. Like, I met, you know, I met, you know, Alexis. I learned for him, you know, jp.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know, Gener. You know, a lot of people, I try to peep what they do, bro, and I try to do what they do good at, and what they do not good at. I try not to do that.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So that's why me, I haven't made too many mistakes in my career, you can say, because I peep what you do. Right. And what you do wrong. And I try not to do wrong with you. And I try to, like, let them make the mistakes so then I don't have to go through that mistake.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I'm a very big peeper, bro.
Josh
You're a visual learner.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
Remember how coach, our boxing coach was talking about how he finds it interesting how different people learn?
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Like, for me, I asked a lot of questions, bro. I want to know why. I want to know intention. I want to know purpose. But with you, I realize it's like you just watch and observe, and then you just pull and pull like that.
Leo
Yeah. Because I feel like I have that little gift, bro. Like, that I can look at something and be like, damn, that's cool. Like, what he does. That's cool. Like, okay. Like, he moves this way.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Because of this.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And I can put one and one together because I train. I feel like I trained my mind to be that way for sure. To be creative. Because back then, I wasn't creative at all, bro. But once I started consuming content and, you know, opening up my brain to a note, a new thing, it kind of like, I look at it as like a glass. You know, when you break a glass, it breaks and then it keeps. One spider web goes to another one.
Ramon
Yeah.
Leo
I feel like that's how my brain is. Like, right now, we could be talking and you give me an idea and.
Ramon
Then you go, and that opens up.
Leo
Like, a whole new thing.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So that's why I like talking about my brand and stuff like that, because I can leave right now and have a. Something will spark the next big idea.
Dandy
Hell, yeah.
Josh
How big is your team now?
Leo
So we have about 15 people.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
Yeah. 15 people that work, you know, every day.
Ramon
That's sick.
Josh
And then creatively, like, who's. Who's, like, in creative team, like, how many members do you have?
Leo
I have four. So I have one main designer. Shout out my boy Joe. So he's been designing for me for the last, I want to say, three years and shout out Joe, bro. He's been kidding it like, he does. I don't gotta, like, my thing too. I learned from Gary Vee, like, you know, let, like, hire somebody that knows what the hell they're doing so you don't have to worry about.
Josh
I learned that hire people smarter than you or not. I mean, like, you know what I mean?
Leo
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if he's good at that, like, hire him instead of you. Because, like, I said, I would design everything.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And it got to the point where I can't. I'm not a designer, bro. You know, I run out of ideas. I got the brand to this point. Now I had to hand it off to somebody else. And that was Joe. So Joe, right now, like, I'm. And again, I met him so organically, bro. I met him through a friend. We started playing soccer. I knew he designed and stuff like that. And one day we were just chilling. I'm like, hey, bro, like, you want to come design for me? It was. I like, yeah. And it just. That's what happened. That's how I found somebody. But the thing. The cool thing about me, bro, what I do, what I like to do, is, like, I like to get people before I need them. You know what I mean? So I knew that, you know, that I had my designs and they were selling, but I was like, I don't want to get to the point where I have to make a drastic decision that I need to hire somebody because I need them out of urgency. Out of urgency. Instead of just having them in the back. Like I told you with Andy, he's in the back right now, bro. But at one point, I'm going to need him, and he's going to come in and he's going to know what.
Ramon
The hell to do.
Leo
You know what I mean? So I like being prepared.
Ramon
I love that.
Leo
Because, you know, when you need to make a decision right then and there, you might make the wrong one.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And I'd rather just be for sure be like, this will have it in the back. I know I got to pay money, but it's like I'm red shirting him, you know, so when the time comes, he's there, you know, time will come.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
What's next for you, bro? Like, where do you see the brand going from here?
Leo
Damn. So I think right now the brand is like, I'm trying to make it more, you know, to come here to be more popular in, like, the. The streetwear culture of America.
Dandy
Okay.
Leo
So that's my next big thing. Like, I kind of want to, like, you know, and this cool thing is, like, I'm starting to get, you know, all this attention from all these brands that are doing great, bro. Like, these. I'm not gonna name any, but, like, these big brands that are, you know, killing it in the American. The American culture.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Really?
Leo
Yeah, bro. So, like, it's pretty cool. Like, I really want, you know, to get in this realm of, like, it's a whole different monster. Like, you know, I conquered Mexico. I feel like I conquered and I Can really say I did conquer it. So it's kind of like.
Ramon
Conquering.
Leo
Yeah, Conquering. Yeah. There you go. So, like, I know that I'm good over here. Like, in Mexico, like, there's only so much you can do before you kind of like, plateau.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know, I mean, there's so many collabs you can do with artists.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Before everyone knows who you already, and it's like, okay, bro, you're not really growing there no more.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So it's like, now I really want to come to this market where people are peeping me already. Like, damn, this guy Dandy's. You know, off hats. Like, that's crazy because everybody I meet that is in American culture, streetwear culture, they're like, damn, bro, like, how do you do it? Like, and they're these, like, these big brands. Like, these big brands that everyone knows, bro. Like. And I'm just like, damn. Well, I. I thought when I sat down with them that I was gonna ask them questions, but they're asking me questions. Wow. And I'm just like, damn, bro. Like. But the thing about me, bro, is that I've been. I work so hard that I really don't pop out anywhere.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I really don't know how big the brand is because I'm so deep into it, man. I'm so like, you know, I don't really go out. I don't do anything. I hang out with my girl, hang out with my team, and I don't really hang around with no one else. And it's kind of like.
Ramon
Like in your own little bubble.
Leo
That's it. You know, Because I'm focused. I feel like I've got here because I've been so focused without any, like, distractions, like, I don't be going out onto vacations. Nothing like that, bro. I'm locked in lock and loading, you know? I'd rather be at home chilling. And an idea pops.
Dandy
Me. Yeah.
Leo
Instead of, like, if I go out, you know, three days, my mind's not thinking about my brand. My mind's thinking about what I'm doing right then and there. But I'm sitting at home chilling where I'm at at my warehouse, that's where the ideas come, and that's when I can flow. You know what I mean?
Ramon
No distractions.
Leo
No distractions, you know? I mean, no distractions.
Ramon
That was just telling me that he just recently started flying not too long ago.
Dandy
What?
Josh
Pilot?
Ramon
No, no, no, no. Like, like going on vacation and, like, going places and stuff. Because he's Not a big, like, airplane guy.
Josh
You get, like, nervous flying.
Leo
Well, bro, I've always been, like, my thing since I was young, bro. I've always been scared, like, of everything, you know? Like. Like. No, like, I'll tell you guys, like, Until I was 14 years old, I would have my sister sleep with me because I was scared to sleep by myself.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
Yeah, I swear.
Ramon
That's funny.
Leo
Like, bro, I was always scared, like. Like, just the dark scared, bro. Just scared of.
Josh
Scared of anything.
Leo
Yeah, everything and anything. Like, you know, I've never done, you know, any type of drugs. No disrespect to anyone that did. Like, I've never done it because I've always been scared to do anything. You know what I mean? Like, even when I drove, I didn't get my license. I was 21, because I was scared to drive.
Dandy
Oh, my God.
Leo
Until I had to kind of be like, no, bro, you got to get, like, you got to learn how to drive, bro. You know what I mean? And it comes to the point where, like, flying. Nah, I'm not going to fly. Hell, never.
Ramon
For what?
Leo
Yeah, yeah, for what? Like, I'll just drive there, you know, and all my friends, everybody be like, bro, you need. You need to do this. You need. You need to travel, experience life. But the good thing is that I didn't, though, because it allowed me imagine when I started making money, I would go everywhere, you know I would. But I'm happy that I didn't because, like, now where I'm at, like, I could now do little things. Like, you know, I was like, you know, I can't be scared no more. Yeah, like, you know, the first time I got on my first flight last year was to Phoenix, and I was like, bro, I cannot be scared if I'm be scared like this for the rest of my life. I'm be scared for the rest of my. I can't be. Like, Even when I go. I was scared to go on roller coasters. When I go Disneyland, California, and get on the Mickey one on the Incredible supreme screen.
Ramon
Oh, yeah.
Leo
Yeah. I went and I. With my girl. And I'm like, bro, like, you got to stop being scared, Leo. Like, I'm talking to myself, you know? Like, you got to stop being scared, but you got to do it. You had.
Ramon
Your girl was down to go on.
Leo
It, and she was kind of scared, too. She was down, though. And I just. I was like, I'm gonna do it, bro. Like, it's like, I'm gonna do it. And I did it, and I'm like, okay, this is not that bad. So when that thing came to Phoenix, I went to go see the Mexico game for the, the Gold Cup. I'm gonna do it, bro. What's the worst that can happen, right? You just die and that's it. Like, you know what I mean? So I keep saying, like, it's the worst that can happen. All right, cool. I got buzzed. I was drinking Buzzball.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Freaking at.
Josh
It helps, though.
Leo
I was off walking and. Yeah, bro. So I just started, you know, and then we just, I just went Mexico City.
Ramon
And how was that flight?
Leo
It was cool, bro. Like, I was nervous, but I was awesome. But I was like, I'm going for a good reason. I'm not going to, like, have fun. I'm not going to get drunk. I'm, I'm going there for business.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I, I, I tricked myself into thinking, like, bro, you're going for a good thing, and it's gonna go good because you're going for the right things. You're not going for for nothing else, but you're going for business. And if something were to happen, well, you went out with a good heart.
Josh
Your heart was in the right spot.
Leo
You went out with, like, a great spot. So now I'm just like, I want to go now. We just went to Lake Tahoe. Like, it's crazy, right? Like, you know, get on the airplane, you feel famous. I feel famous. You know, I mean, like, kind of, you know, you have your little headphones on. You got your little swag. Air Force swag.
Ramon
It's like when the basketball players go in the tunnel.
Leo
You got your little luggage. LV Luggage. And you just walking.
Ramon
It's a vibe, right?
Leo
It's a vibe. I've always wanted to do that. And it was co. We went to Lake Tahoe. We flew in a, you know, a plane, too. I was like, for me, I was just like, damn, this is so cool. Like, no, no, it was the Southwest Airport.
Josh
Okay.
Dandy
Okay.
Leo
And my thing was just kind of like, this is cool that I could just get up and go.
Ramon
It's the beauty of traveling. I told you, like, yeah, same day.
Josh
Did you get or did you guys stay out there?
Leo
No, we stayed there for three days. So we're out there.
Josh
Beautiful, bro. Especially right now during, like, the summer and stuff.
Ramon
It's beautiful. I was saying l was like, one of the most beautiful things that you can do in life is travel.
Dandy
Travel. Yeah.
Ramon
And have babies.
Leo
Babies.
Josh
You don't have kids.
Leo
I don't have kids yet.
Josh
You want to I guess.
Leo
Of course, yes. I feel like it's time, but we haven't. Because I feel like I'm very busy with stuff.
Ramon
Yeah, no, you don't gotta explain yourself.
Leo
So, so my thing is, like, I really want to focus when I do have, when I do make that, when we do have that, I want to be 100 there. And I. Right now, if we were to like, I don't, I don't want to be kind of like, oh, I'm out. Like, like, you know, I'm not going to be here or I'm not gonna be here during the pregnancy. I'm not like, yeah, I want to be there, bro. And right now I just feel like I have to like do this first and then after this, like all this else can come, you know, because like I said, I'm, it's, it's very hard living with me, like being a spouse of mine. Because I'm busy, bro. Like, yeah, you know, I, I, you know, sometimes I don't even talk to my girl.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Because I'm just so in my zone, bro. Like, I just want to be myself. Sit down.
Ramon
It's beautiful how you found somebody that can understand that.
Leo
Yeah, true.
Josh
Okay. That's important.
Leo
And the thing is with her is, like, when I met her, I just kind of told her like, you know, like, hey, this is how it's going to be. Before any of this ever happened. I told her, look, this is what's going to happen, this is what's going to be, and this is how it's going to, it's going to go and. Are you down, Angie? I'm down, right? And then she's, she's there right now, bro. So like, it's crazy cuz she was with me, my girl was with me since I started again back in 2021 with nothing really. Basically started with zero.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
Until right now. So.
Dandy
Damn.
Leo
Like, it's cool that you know, and, and shout out to my, shout out to my, my girl because like, I feel like, and I said it a lot of times that when you have the right girl and she lets you do your dreams.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Like your dreams come true. Because there's a lot of spouses, you're with a lot of friends that I have that have girls and they don't let them do anything. Like, they don't let them do this, they don't do that, and their dream just kind of pummels. Yeah, but the girl doesn't know though, right? Like she's, she's, she's not letting her man do her dreams. But, like, you know, at least for my girl, she. I tell her, like, hey, like, let me do my stuff, and trust me, we're gonna be good for the rest of her life.
Josh
She creates that environment for you to succeed. What does she think about all this? Does she trip out, too?
Leo
She trips out, but she, like. I mean, you might say, like, oh, you're lying, everyone. But she doesn't really care about nothing, about all this money. She doesn't care about all these nice things. She just tells me, look, I just want you to love me, and I want your time, and that's all I want. You can buy me a purse, you can buy me a car, but at the end of the day, like, this is. This is worthless if you're. Hello, I'm not with you. You know what I mean?
Ramon
Shout out to her.
Leo
And it's crazy. And I'm just like, damn, bro.
Dandy
Like.
Leo
But I'm just like, wow. Like, this is my appreciation that I have for you. For, you know, not when I'm out. You're not texting me, calling me. What are you doing? What's this? If I'm meeting. If I don't text you all day, you're not like, what are you doing? Because, like, I feel like, you know, I'm in my zone. It's, like, right now, right? We're having podcasts, and my girl was talking you up. What's up? Oh, you're. Why are you. And then I come back and I'm in a different mood because my girls are tripping on me. You know what I mean? So she has allowed me to, like, not trip, like, not, like.
Ramon
And stay, like, really with good energy and happy and focus.
Leo
Yeah. Because my thing is, like, something right now. He can tell me. Ramon can tell me, like, hey, bro, this is happening. And it changed my mood like this.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So at least with her, like, that's a big thing. Right? Because then I. If. If she were like that, I had to go home. And it's fighting.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So guess what? Like, it's just time wasted. Just fighting and fighting and fighting when I could be doing my business, you.
Josh
Know, it's taking away energy on something else. You're gonna be putting in something that's gonna help you grow.
Leo
Yeah. So no shout out my girl.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
That's beautiful.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
It's very important. Even, like. Even if, like, say, Ramon tells you something that. That might upset you, like, even you going home and just having that comfort of your girl, like, her putting you at ease, making you feel relaxed, not causing more stress. Like, it seems like that, that men look for in. In women as well, you know what I mean? Something that, like, you as a business owner, you're out. You're out and about. And then, like, you know, like you said, like somebody being a toxic. I change your mood. Like, that's not what people look for. You know what I mean?
Leo
So it's really cool that she's like, especially high value. Men like us, you know, I mean, we're not trying to look for a girl that's gonna give you. You said us.
Ramon
He said guilty.
Leo
You know, that's why I made a good call with my girl and, you know, I'm gonna stick with her till.
Josh
Till the end.
Ramon
I love that, man. I love that. How has your, like, relationship with your parents? Has it changed ever since you became, like a business owner?
Leo
I feel like when I. When I left my dad's spot, bro, like, he was very upset, like, kind of saying, like, like, what are you doing? You know, like, again, not to disrespect my dad or anything, but they didn't understand what I was trying to do. They didn't understand the hats could be something, you know what I mean? So I don't blame him. I don't give him anything or anything like that.
Ramon
But, like, you might have acted the same way with your son.
Leo
Yeah, I would have. Yeah.
Ramon
Because maybe, I don't know.
Leo
No, I feel like you just want to protect them, protect your son.
Josh
If you want the best for them.
Leo
You want the best for him and, you know, oh, me, this guy comes in here and like, oh, I want to make hats. And I'm gonna leave the job that I've been working on that I. Because my dad wanted me to pass over the restaurant to me.
Dandy
Oh, wow.
Leo
So it's like, you know, this guy's leaving to go do hats when. When he has everything here. And, you know, and my thing was just kind of like, nah, this is your dream, dad. Like, I don't like doing this. I like doing this. And like, I remember learning from Gary Vee that he's like, once you start making what you make at your normal job, that's when you leave your job. So then I started making what I was making my dad, and I left my dad. I told my dad, I'm good, thank you very much. Like, but I need to go. Like, I really, really believe in this project that I'm trying to do right now. And I remember when I made my first. Because remember, I would do my hats in la?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So the first time I did my hats overseas, I remember I ordered like 3, 500 hats and I went into my parents room. I still remember like, like, like yesterday I went in there and I was writing down my numbers like, okay, I'm gonna make, you know, a thousand of these. A thousand of these, a thousand of these. And I go in there and they're all laying down. I'm like, look, dad, like all excited, like, hey, look, hey look, mom, my dad, I'll make these much. And they're looking at it like, like, damn, mijo, like, why don't you make less, huh? Yeah, why don't you make less? Like, you know, like, you know, it's.
Josh
Too much of a risk.
Leo
Yeah, it's like too much. Like, you know, it's a lot of money. Do you trust these people? You know you're gonna get, you know, I think it was like 35, 000, my first investment, which I had to sell my car. So I sold my car to make that investment.
Dandy
Wow, bro.
Ramon
And you knew in the back of your head that you're gonna sell those hats?
Leo
And I knew because I was like, I was like, I have to like, I, there's. I'm gonna figure out a way to do this, bro. Like, I'm gonna do this because I can. And I'm learning and I'm smart and everything, everything else is like falling into place. And I remember my parents saying like, oh, mijo, like, you know, like, I think that's too much. Like, I think you should like kind of relax, play it safe. I think you don't, you know. And I went out and I walked out, like, super, like upset. And I was like, man, they don't understand. And then from that time, it was like the last time I ever showed him anything. And it was just kind of. I wasn't like, oh, like, I hate my parents, I'm showing. But I was just kind of like at the time maybe I was a little upset, like, damn, they don't believe in me. But now, you know, now that I'm, you know, a little bit older, like, I understand that, you know, they just didn't want to see me fail.
Dandy
That's right. Right.
Leo
So I feel like right now with my parents, I don't really get to see them that much again because I'm very busy. But like, I'm pretty sure they feel. My dad tells me, my mom tells me, like, you know, it's cool. Like my mom tells me because I don't see her that much. She's like when I really want to see you. Me who? I go on YouTube and I watch YouTube videos.
Josh
Like the vlogs.
Leo
Yeah, the vlogs and shit. So, yeah, you know, my parents, I think they're very. You know, I help out my family a lot, you know.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Like, I do things for them that, you know, I put myself in. In the position if. If. What would I want for my son if he was that, you know?
Ramon
Yeah.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And, you know, like I said, maybe my time is not there right now because I'm very busy with everything that's going on, but I feel like the time will come where, you know, we can all sing kumbayage by the.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah.
Ramon
I mean, you're so busy right now, you barely have time for yourself. But when you find those times or those days that you have, like, couple hours or, like, you want to have a day off, if you want to give yourself that, what do you want to do? What do you like to do? I know that you're super into cars. I know I've seen you at a couple car meets, a couple rides and stuff like that, but is there anything else that we. That we or, you know, the whole world doesn't know that you do, like. Like a guilty pleasure that you have?
Leo
I mean, I like to eat, you know.
Ramon
Me too.
Leo
Food for me is crazy. I mean, I like. I don't really. The thing is, bro, I really don't do. If you think much, bro. Like, I just. I just like to be home because I'm telling you, I don't want to be nowhere because an idea might come, and if I'm not there ready for it, it's just gonna go under my legs and I'm not gonna catch it, so. But, you know, I do like to go to car meet sometimes. But the thing is, my thing, bro, what I like to do is I like to go outside and look at my cars and just be like, damn, bro. And then go back inside and sit down and just be like, damn, bro. Like, I have all this.
Ramon
Like this from all the whips that you have. Which one is your favorite?
Josh
But your car collection is insane.
Leo
Thank you. Thank you. I think my favorite car is my svj. Like that.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
That was my ultimate, like, you made it car.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Type stuff.
Ramon
And you recently got that one.
Leo
I recently got that one, like, about three weeks ago, four weeks ago.
Dandy
Oh, no way.
Ramon
What makes that one so different than any other car? What do you feel like? What is it?
Leo
I don't know, bro. I feel like just The. The rawness of the car and just the loud and the. The. The boom and just, you know, even though it's loud, you know, sometimes I don't want to drive it because it's too loud. But it's like, Like. But you get in there and you're just like, damn. I. I, like, I. I live. I live by, like, mountains and stuff like that, so sometimes I take the cars out up there and I just bring them back down and stuff like that. But I get to hear them. Yeah, I really don't really take them out that much. I'd rather drive, like, a comfortable car. But, like, when it time. When. When time comes to, like, do something with the cars, I have them there ready. You know what I mean? So I feel like the car for me is like. I don't know, I just kind of want to collect them all type.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ramon
Obviously.
Dandy
You.
Ramon
You just collabed with Canelo, right? Is there so, like, a dream collab that you have in mind?
Josh
And why la platica.
Ramon
Is there?
Leo
I feel like my dream, I would say it was Drake. I would want to do something, bro.
Ramon
I can see him wearing your. Your hats.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
For real?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I feel like, you know, we had a con. We had, like, kind of like their camp. We reached out to their camp over some from. From like, a connected source, and we're kind of like, we haven't. They haven't got back to us, but we already planted the seed there.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leo
So we have our collab next month with Lil Baby.
Josh
Oh, no way.
Leo
Yeah. So this is one of the hats right here. Oh, so can't be with. That's his kind of, like, slogan and stuff like that. So we have something coming out with him. Yeah.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
That's gonna be.
Ramon
That's insane, bro. Nothing but heavy hitters, man.
Leo
Yeah. Like, even meeting little baby was crazy, bro. Like, you know, little babies, bro.
Dandy
He's sick as well.
Ramon
Cool guy.
Leo
Cool guy, bro. I talked to him for, like, two hours.
Josh
No way.
Leo
Yeah, he was this cool guy.
Josh
Like, on the phone?
Leo
No, in person. Oh, yeah. So I went, you know, I went there. I went to the hotel we were staying at to talk to him. He's like, hey, bro, so what do you think? Like, he's like, damn, bro, I like the name Dandy. And I was gonna tell you, like, he even said the name Dandy was hard. He's like, that's just hard.
Ramon
Isn't that crazy?
Leo
Wow. He was just like, damn, bro, I'm trying to make money, You Know, Meek Mill made, you know, 4 million with Mark Cuban with hats. And I'm trying to really, like, that's what he said.
Dandy
Said.
Leo
So he kind of looked at me kind of like, like, okay, like, let's do business, you know? Like, let's just be like, let me. Let me hop on, you know? And I was like, oh, well, right now, bro, I'm cool. Like, let's get this done over, and then we can, like, talk. You know what I mean?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
But, yeah, he was super cool guy.
Josh
Like, he wants to start his own brand with you.
Leo
I guess he just wants to, like, be a part of Dandy.
Josh
Got it.
Leo
I gotcha. Gotcha. So. But I haven't really, you know, that we were supposed to do the collab in March, but we just. I just kind of keep pushing it, pushing and pushing it just so, you know, it could be a big drop.
Dandy
You know what I mean?
Leo
Because I'm. I'm growing, and then if I'm growing, I can make it more money. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, tell him, hey, bro, like, if you wait for me a little bit, yeah, I can make you some more money. And like I said, I don't. I don't bother him. I have his number. I can FaceTime, but I don't do it. Like, I hate to bug people. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, that's not me. So I, like, right now, you know, I just hit him up yesterday. I was, hey, bro, we ready? Or he's like, we're ready. So. So we're gonna start. That's the next drop coming up in September.
Josh
How many hats did you guys design?
Leo
We designed three.
Dandy
Three hands.
Josh
And then you just showed it to him and got the approval. And then it's.
Leo
Because the thing is that. That you got to think about it. They sing, bro. They sing. Like, that's their thing. Yeah, the artist hats is my thing. So they kind of. Everyone just kind of tells you, like, I want this, or you do your thing and just show me everything.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And nine times out of 10, we show them 10 designs, and they pick three or nice, or they don't like one that we like. I'm like, bro, look, this sells with my people. Because I also want my people to buy the hats. I don't just want his people to buy that.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Because I'm trying to look good in front of him, you know, I'm trying to look good in front of Canada. Like, bro, we did this many hats, and I sold them out, and it's like a Different respect they have for you, you know, 100. And my thing is just more like showing that I can do it. So the next time comes, like, Dandy's. Dandy is away, bro. Like, dandy. Like, Dandy's the one. Dandy. Dandy's the person I gotta go to. So that's. I kind of want to play with everyone.
Josh
You're gonna get that Drake collab, bro. I see it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
I see it happening, bro.
Leo
That's. That would probably be mine.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
What do you think was your, like, I made it moment?
Leo
I made it moment. I feel. I feel like I haven't had it yet, bro. Like, I feel like it just. I can't get comfortable right now. Like, you know, I made it. Yeah. You can say I made it right now. But it's like, I'm thinking about am I gonna be making in two, three years. You know what I mean? So I feel like once. Because this hat thing, you gotta think about it. Like, you never know when it can go bad, you know? You never know if the next drop, like, your brand will fall. Next drop. So that's the sucky part of having this. This business of brand and being hyped up.
Ramon
That's a good mentality to have that.
Leo
You don't know, bro. So I feel like, you know, you. I can't really look past, you know, next year and being like, oh, I'm still good. You know what I mean? I feel like I'll be good when, you know, I have other little different business ventures.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
That I do. You know what I mean? That, you know, can allow me to live my lifestyle and really not do anything, you know, I mean, I feel like I made it, you know, once I have 100 houses, you know, invested, getting rents.
Josh
Like, you can maintain the same lifestyle.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
Outside of just Dandy.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Leo
And I feel like that's when I'll be like, I made it. You know what I mean? Because right now you can be like, yeah, you made it. You have 14 cars. But it's like, damn, bro. Like, I gotta pay those 14 cars.
Josh
Yeah, bro.
Ramon
What does your insurance look like?
Leo
I pay like, eight bands a month for all my cars.
Dandy
Wow, bro. Bro. Yeah.
Ramon
You know, that's a lot of money, but I would. I thought it would be more.
Leo
I don't know why everyone says that it'll be more, but now it's about eight bands.
Ramon
Damn, bro.
Leo
Eight bands.
Josh
Mind you, that's just insurance.
Ramon
That's just insurance.
Leo
Yeah. I can have no insurance and have another car that's how I look.
Ramon
Yeah, well, you can have. With that insurance, you can have a penthouse in downtown.
Dandy
Right. Damn.
Leo
Are you still.
Josh
Are you always looking like at cars and like.
Leo
Yeah, right now. Right now I'm looking to buy. I just bought a RTO like three weeks ago, and right now I'm looking to buy sto.
Ramon
Got it.
Leo
And I'm just like, damn, Should I buy it or should I buy a house?
Ramon
What you think about the.
Dandy
What?
Ramon
The Lamborghini that's like a little off road.
Josh
Oh, that is sick, bro. With the big old wheels.
Leo
I don't know. What? I don't know.
Josh
I think it's sick.
Ramon
Yeah, it's just tight.
Leo
Yeah, that's just pretty sick. But like, right now I want to buy that. I just have. I have an R8.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I just twin turboed it.
Ramon
I saw you with the shippy race.
Leo
Yeah. It almost has 1500 horsepower. I have Performante that has also 1500 horsepower car.
Ramon
That's Twin Turbo. CP race.
Leo
Sheepy race.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Ty, they're in Temecula, huh?
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Ain't that crazy? I grew up in Temecula like half my life, and like I. When I left Temecula, like, she be. Race got big.
Josh
Oh, they were there. Since you live.
Ramon
They're from Temecula, bro. Yeah, that's tight. Like, they build like sick cars, bro.
Leo
Yeah, bro. So he just built both. Both. I bought my Performante already built. And I bought an R8 because. Nick. Yeah, Nick. Whose R8 is that?
Josh
That's mine.
Leo
Yeah, so I remember I went out with. With Nick one time and I'm like, damn, bro. She's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm gonna buy one. So I bought one like the next week and right away I drove for. For a day. And I want to go transfer boy. And I just got it back like a couple.
Ramon
When you go to the. To the dealership.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And obviously they like have to like run your. You know, like, how's the process? Is it pretty easy? Are you buying that in cash or.
Leo
Yeah, so some cars I buy in cash. You know what I mean? Some cars I try to pay off off all the way. But, like, just depends. Like the.
Ramon
Like, they never give you an issue. Like, not too many cars. They look at how much.
Leo
Like you just see the bank statements and like, take it. They just see it like, hey, take that. You know, I hope you lose it. You know what I mean?
Dandy
Because they.
Leo
They look at it like if you put a good down on it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And you can't pay it, like they get to keep the down payment and they get the car back.
Josh
Yeah, that's true.
Leo
So, like, that's how my. Because I use a broker to do my stuff. Like, Abra, I want this car. You do handle it and tell me whatever it is, and that's what it is. So, you know, normally it's. It's easy, bro. I. You know, I've. And I. And I don't have good credit. You know what I mean? Like, I. I messed up my career when I was in high school. I'm still trying to build it up, and right now I have. I have, like, five cars under my name that, you know, I don't know how, but, you know, bank statements. You know what I mean? So it's. It's pretty cool.
Ramon
Now, before we end this podcast, me and Josh, we're gonna give you some random ass questions, and we're gonna do this off the dome.
Dandy
All right? Bet.
Ramon
All right, Ready?
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Favorite movie?
Leo
Nacho Libre.
Josh
Is that your favorite?
Ramon
What a great answer. Thank you for saying that.
Leo
That's my favorite movie.
Ramon
That's one of our favorite.
Leo
That's the first. That's the. No one's ever asked me that. Right. But that's The Nacho Libre 100, bro.
Josh
That's such a good movie.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
I remember when I would work with my dad, I would always play it while making tacos. Yeah. I would play because my dad has a TV in the restaurant, and I would always play, and everybody would come in and be like, that's a sick ass movie. And everybody. Every time I play and people were eating inside, everyone will be watching that movie, bro.
Josh
Bro, that's actually. That movie, for me is like a comfort movie.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
If I don't know what to watch and I just want to watch something I know makes me feel good, I put on Nacho Library.
Ramon
Me too, bro. Like, every second, every line of that movie is a hit.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
It's such a funny ass part, bro.
Leo
Yes.
Josh
Favorite hat you've ever dropped.
Leo
I feel like it has to be the project 001. It's like one that has, like, little metal things, right?
Ramon
I've seen that.
Leo
It has the D. What's like spray painted D down and then has dandy right here.
Dandy
Oh, that's sick.
Leo
That one's probably my favorite hat.
Ramon
Proud of the hat hat.
Leo
Yeah. That hat's sick, bro. Damn, I love that hat.
Ramon
What's your Marisco order?
Leo
A chiles. A chile is fire.
Ramon
Yeah, it's a. Yeah, for sure. Green or red or. Or negras.
Leo
Oh, it depends, you know, I like the limey. Whatever's limey.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leo
I like the lime.
Ramon
Probably the. The ver.
Leo
Yellow.
Josh
Favorite fast food joint.
Leo
Damn, that was hard, bro. Cuz.
Ramon
Oh, I'll tell you mine.
Josh
Everybody knows it ain't about me.
Ramon
Favorite fast food joint. Bro, you gotta have one.
Leo
I feel like go to is. I like Wienerschnitzel, bro. I like winners.
Josh
I was not expecting that, bro.
Ramon
You're a savage.
Josh
Because he knows.
Leo
What do you get?
Josh
What's your order?
Ramon
Chili cheese fries, dog.
Leo
Two corn dogs, two chili cheese dogs. The premium. The premium hot dogsnitzel.
Josh
Wow, that's hilarious.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And the jalapeno poppers.
Dandy
Wow.
Ramon
I never tried their jalapeno pop.
Leo
It's good. I mean, everyone, my. When I tell my girl, hey, what are you gonna eat today? I'll meet Winter. So she's like, oh, yeah, never mind. And everyone. No one ever wants to eat winter with me.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
But I like Winterson.
Ramon
It's like. It's like foods. I like Arby's. Like, food. Who likes Arby's? You know what I mean?
Leo
With some hot Cheeto puffs on the side.
Dandy
Wow. That's.
Ramon
Now I know what to bring you when we go visit.
Leo
I know, bro.
Josh
And then run her up. Like, what's like a runner up?
Dandy
Stop.
Leo
I would say probably like wing stop.
Josh
Okay.
Leo
O week stop is good.
Ramon
Top tier.
Leo
Ranch.
Ramon
Top tier. Wings.
Leo
Top tier.
Ramon
What's a bad habit you have, Leo?
Leo
Bad habit. I like to buy my nails.
Josh
Oh, me too, bro. I would literally just bite them when.
Leo
You said, you know what?
Ramon
I don't like to bite my nails, but I like to pick the skin around it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
I don't know why.
Leo
I don't know. Maybe it's a nervous tick. Yeah, it is. And right now they have braces. I can't really, like, got it. But I do the load.
Ramon
That's a good bad habit to have.
Josh
Josh, what's up?
Ramon
Next question.
Josh
Oh, you're indicating that to me. What's the best advice you've ever received?
Leo
Do what you love. I feel like that's, for me, is, like, if you do your love, bro, you're gonna succeed, man. Because I feel like I really love this hat. Like, I really, really love it. And I'm very into it. And I enjoy. And that's why it, like, it goes so good. And I still enjoy it to this day. Like, the money's cool, but I. I love when, you know, it's drop week and I have all my boys with Me, my boys from Mexico. Come. Yeah, we all have fun. We're all worried about the drop. Like, it's just so many, like, different emotions you're going through that I feel like when. When we're doing that, that's kind of like the best time. Even when you see the amount of money, like, it's like, that doesn't. That has never got me, like, hyped up. I've never been like, I've sold $2 million. I'm like, like, yeah, like, nah, bro. Like, I've never.
Ramon
I keep it pushing.
Leo
I've never done it like that. Because I look at him, like, now, I made 2 million. How the hell am I gonna make 2 million again?
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know what I mean? Like, how am I gonna make a million again? So that's kind of how I look at it. I feel like my being on my team, like, for me, is just funny, man. Everyone's funny. Everyone's.
Ramon
Yeah, you're just having a great time, man. You're blessed.
Leo
Yeah. Like, you're having a great time while working, you know, but when it comes to, like, working and we need to get serious, like, I feel like everyone can get serious. Series.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh
Lock in.
Dandy
Yeah, bro.
Josh
Are you pretty open about how much you make on your drops?
Leo
Yeah, I'm pretty open about. I like to show numbers. Dope, bro. Because, you know, like, you know, a lot of people can cap and say, you make this much. So, like, I feel like that I was like, one of the first brands that would actually show their Shopify.
Josh
I. I would see that.
Leo
I see that I made. You know, you can see me making 250 to 350 to now. Making me. Now seeing me make two M's. Three M's, bro. Like, you can see, like, kind of the projection. The project.
Dandy
Yeah. Of.
Leo
Of the numbers.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
What's the most you've made on a drop?
Leo
The most I made probably a drop about. It's like. Probably like. Like 4.55m.
Josh
Jesus, bro, that has to trip you out, though, right? Like that.
Leo
I mean, it just. No, it actually brings more stress, bro. Like, it brings more stress. You know, you're like, I gotta do that again. You know what I mean? And it's like, you know, my lifestyle ain't cheap. You know what I mean? And. But it's cool, though, because that's what keeps me pushing, bro. Because, you know, I have my house. I have two houses I gotta pay for, and it's like, you know, I feel like I work good under a lot of Pressure, like, I have to go, like, my thing. I remember when I worked with my dad, I had a car payment and I had to go to work, bro, because I had to pay the car, of course. So I feel like if I didn't have so many responsibilities, I would just kind of be like, I'm chilling, you know? I mean.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So I try to put more responsibilities on me so I can keep on working. Because I know myself, bro. Like, I know how I am. I know I'm. When I get lazy, I get lazy. And when I think, like, I made it, then I'm just kind of. I let. I'm gonna let my. I'm Let the ball roll out of the court, bro. So, like, I know maybe it's bad, you know, maybe I have. You know who. The house has to have 14 cars. But, hey, that should get up. And I'm like, damn, man, I gotta pay for. I mean, some are paid off, but I'm just like, damn, I gotta pay for this. I wake up my. My, you know, my house, and I gotta pay for this, too. And I'm just like, all right, cool. Like, I. Like, there ain't no chill.
Ramon
It keeps you pushing, man.
Leo
It keeps you pushing.
Dandy
Damn. But, yeah.
Josh
That's insane, bro.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
How does it genuinely make you feel when you see somebody wearing your hat?
Leo
We got you Toyota. I mean, it's crazy, bro. Like, it's just kind of like, damn. Like, why is he wearing my hat? Hat, you know, like, damn. Like, it's some random ass dude wearing my hat. I'm just like, that's dope. It feels good. I feel like that's one of, like, the coolest feelings you have when you see someone in your hat and you're.
Dandy
Like.
Leo
Afar, you know, just like, hit him with the. Or. I. Sometimes I even try to get close to them, and I'm like, I like your hat, bro. And I just keep walking.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
And they just kind of all thinks. Or sometimes I'd be like, hey, bro, I like your hat. And I just keep walking, like, yeah. Oh, it's you. Oh, yeah. He's like, oh, let's take a picture. All right, let's take a picture. So my thing is, like, I like to, like, you know when I meet little kids and they come up to me and they're like, oh. And I'm like, yeah. So I take a picture with them, depending how, you know? Like, I feel like I can, like, depending on how the little kid is like, you know, if I see him that, you know, he's Very, like, if it reminds me of myself when I was small, I would take off my hand, I would give it to him. Here you go, bro. And like, normally, like, nine times out of 10, the people that I do give hats to, you, they normally end up crying.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
So, like, I'm just like, yeah, this dude really did this.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
You know what I mean? Like, this hat meant something.
Dandy
It hit.
Leo
Hit this guy a lot. So, like, you know, I like to do that. I like to do that when I meet little kids and stuff like that. And when you see them crying, I'm just like, damn, this will really, you know, messes with my brand. And really, like, you know, it's sick with my brother.
Ramon
Yeah, dude, I love that, man. That's cool. And then you gotta go to the bathroom and fix your hair, huh?
Leo
Yeah.
Dandy
Or.
Leo
Or normally, what I do, I take. I take. I mean, I got ten fools around me. I normally take a hat off. He gotta go to the bathroom, so. So it's funny though, bro, because when I do give hats out, my hat out, like. And I look back to try to get a hat from everyone, I don't see nobody. Everyone disappears.
Josh
Everyone knows.
Ramon
They already know.
Leo
Yeah, everybody knows, bro. Like, oh, yeah, Danny's about to give his hat away and he's gonna, like, you know, he's gonna take one of ours. So I look back and I'm like, damn, where is all these foods at? And everyone had left, so, yeah, it's pretty cool, bro.
Josh
So obviously you get. You do, like, the limited drops, right? It's like one and done, right?
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Do you. You have a hat from each drop that you've. That you've ones that you've.
Leo
Actually, I. Bro, the thing is, like, everything's like, we go so down to where we sell everything. I have. I don't have hats. Like, I don't have the hats that we just took out last month. I don't have them. You know, the canelo ones. I'm probably not going to have any either.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
Like, it just. Everything goes, bro. Like, everything literally just leaves. Like, leaves gone. And it's like, if I have a hat at home that I. That I. That I got, and I have it, like, you know, stored. Hey, bro, we're missing five hats. I gotta go home. I gotta get those and I gotta ship those out.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
How does it make you feel when you see your hat being resold?
Leo
I mean, it's cool because I feel like it really does help the brand. And it's kind of like, you know, everyone's making money. You know what I mean? So I feel like, I mean, kudos to, you know, shout out to the people that like it. Shout out to the people that don't like it. Yeah, but I'm. I try to make it fair for everybody. You know, I try to put limits on the website. You can't buy. Buy more than one. So I try to make it really, I try to make it very, very, like, you know, there's only so much you can do. There's only so much I can do before people, you know, they want to sell it. I mean, if the market's there, then the people buy me. If I want to buy a Jordan Travis Scott, I'm not gonna go on the page. I'd rather just buy resell because my time is.
Josh
That's how I am too.
Leo
So I feel like, you know, for everybody, there's. There's something for everybody. And the thing is everyone's making money right now. Off the hats or if you like the ads, like, like everybody's making money. So my thing is like, it's. It's like a sword both ways. Some people love it. Some people. Some people do my thing. All I care about is my brand. And I want people, you know, to like my brand. And if, you know, you really like my brand, you'll pay the resale for it.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Or if you don't, if you don't want to pay resale, you don't have to pay the resale. Yeah, for me is.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Just came on top of my head. Now that Andas Masanimado to travel. Is there a destination that you would like to go to?
Leo
You, bro, I've always wanted to go to Greece. Awesome. Random Mykonos. Random. Like, yeah, random. I just.
Ramon
Greece is amazing, bro. And they have amazing food. Yeah, that's the thing, bro. You want to go somewhere where the food is fire, bro.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And Greece fire food.
Leo
So you've been in Greece?
Ramon
Yeah, it's the Mediterranean Sea.
Leo
So you said. What was that? That famous where that mountain is? That's where.
Ramon
No, no, that's Santorini.
Josh
But Mykonos is where all the white buildings are and stuff like that, right?
Ramon
Santorini.
Josh
Oh, that's Santorini.
Ramon
But there's some white buildings over there too. Yeah, but Mykonos is my fiesta way. But it's still really beautiful. You can chill. But Santorini is done.
Josh
The more laid back.
Ramon
Will you marry me?
Leo
Oh, okay.
Ramon
Like, let's go have a baby. You know, it's more chill. There's bars and but okay, it's chill restaurants on the cliff, you know what I mean?
Leo
Even. Even Tulum, because you know, it comes out a lot of like songs.
Josh
Tulum is beautiful, bro.
Ramon
Tulum is sick.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
You know what? Hot. Take a lot of people, they like to go to Tulum when there's a big festival.
Leo
Okay.
Ramon
When you just go on some random. They. I always. They come back. We could have gone somewhere else because it's only one little ass strip.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
And it's far as to get there.
Josh
Yeah, it's far as to get there.
Ramon
Yeah. From the airport where I want to.
Leo
Go really like, I really enjoying. I like really going to Disneyland and theme parks.
Ramon
Oh, me too.
Leo
Yeah.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
So like Disney World.
Leo
I want to go to. I want to go to Florida. I want to go like to all the Disney's.
Josh
Japan.
Leo
Yeah. Everywhere I want to go. That's okay.
Ramon
I've been to Disney World.
Leo
Okay.
Ramon
Shits on anything. Yeah, bro, you have to go.
Josh
This is World Florida.
Ramon
Yeah, yeah. Like Epcot, Animal Kingdom. Animal Kingdom. Bro, that is sick, bro. Shits on any theme park. Shits on it. Shits on it, right? Japan is cool. Shitty food. I'm sorry, really? Yes. I'm sorry.
Josh
But Japan as a country doesn't have shitty food.
Ramon
No.
Josh
Yeah, it's just this. You would think that Disney.
Ramon
Disney just sucks.
Leo
Sucks for the food. Even Disneyland.
Ramon
But it's nice though, food too.
Leo
Like, even Disneyland here.
Ramon
Disneyland, a California Adventure. That's what. That's what they. They have food and drinks.
Leo
Yeah, full.
Ramon
Come with us at Disneyland, California Adventure. We'll take you on the Sick Bella 5000 tour.
Leo
Yeah, yeah, we know all those in Disneyland, California.
Ramon
You've never done that.
Josh
That's the only reason we.
Ramon
It's the only reason why you go.
Leo
No, I mean, I don't know.
Josh
You go for the rides.
Leo
I go ride Guardians and roller coasters. Closer.
Josh
Guardians I love.
Ramon
But you drink, right?
Leo
I don't drink that.
Ramon
Yeah, yeah, not a lot, but you'll have a couple.
Leo
No, no, not at all. Look, my thing is like if I'm gonna drink, I'm gonna get drunk.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
So if I like. I haven't drank. The last time I drank one when I went to Mexico City and I drank and I, you know, got lit. But for me to like go home right now and open up.
Ramon
No, me neither.
Leo
Bud Light. No, no. And just.
Ramon
I'm not like that either. You're not like that either, huh?
Josh
No, but we're the best of wine at home.
Ramon
But.
Dandy
Yeah, yeah.
Ramon
Would you.
Dandy
Yeah.
Leo
Don't lie.
Josh
Of course I would. You see the way I'm sitting like.
Leo
This with the big old glass and just like this.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Thank you. Like this with a cigar, Bro, every.
Ramon
Time I go to restaurant that I see somebody like. Like, you know, like, when you order a glass of wine and I like it. Trust me, it's cool. It's an experience. But they give you the glass of wine, and then they're like, would you like. This is the one that you chose, sir.
Dandy
Right.
Ramon
And then I'm like, yeah, sure, that's fine. And they go, that's it. Just a couple. Just so you can sip it. I'm like, I don't need that, mama. For, like, just pour the whole thing.
Josh
That's how I know you don't drink wine. There's a purpose for it.
Ramon
Because then I go like this, and then I gotta act like I know what I'm doing and I don't.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Oh, you're this guy.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Because what? You want to taste it? Make sure that it's not corn.
Leo
Shut up.
Josh
You know, you want to make sure that the oakiness and the richness is really coming out. Stupid, bro.
Ramon
Yeah, no, I'm not like that either, though. But I'm the same way. Like, if I'm a drink, I'm a drink.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
Because I don't drink for, like, taste.
Leo
No, I. I hate how beer tastes. I hate taking shots. I hate, like, I don't like. I'm telling you, I don't like. But I feel like, you know, if I'm a drink, like, all right, bro. Like, let's have a good time.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
You know what do you like to.
Leo
Drink when you do, like, buzz balls?
Josh
You like buzz balls?
Leo
I feel like. I feel like I just get a. One of those thermals and just put ice and just throw the buzzball in there and just sit.
Dandy
You're good.
Leo
Just sip. And that gets you faded fast.
Josh
Yeah, bro.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
But one time I had buzz balloon.
Josh
It's a lot of.
Ramon
And I never have it again because that made my head hurt and that got me spinning.
Leo
Yeah.
Ramon
Because when I drink, I never spin. I never throw up nothing like that. I'll get drunk, but I never. I don't spin. Yeah, but that made me spin. That's the worst feeling you ever got. The spins.
Leo
No, I'm being drunk.
Ramon
It's the worst feeling.
Josh
I've never had that either.
Ramon
No, it's the worst feeling, bro.
Leo
Yeah. I've only gotten drunk the first time I ever got, like, super drunk. Where you're just like what the hell happened is. But not to the point where I forget where I've blacked out. Yeah, no, not to that point. But to the point where the first time I ever got drunk and I was just like like what the heck is this? Yeah, I was like 24 years old.
Dandy
Wow, bro.
Leo
24 years old. When I, when I got drunk my first time. Like drunk, drunk. Like not. I would drink a little bit, but I would always be scared to get drunk cuz I didn't know the feeling of how it is to get drunk.
Dandy
Wow.
Leo
I remember I was just, I was at my. One of my homies house and they had like musi gos and they just take shot, shot, shot. And I was, I was literally like this, just sitting down and it just hit me like that and I'm just like what the. And I, I got, I got panicked, bro. I got up and I'm just like, what the heck? And I'm walking to the bathroom and I'm looking at my bathroom and I'm just like. I'm washing my face. I'm like, what is this? I'm like, I'm probably drunk. This feels cool. I kind of like it. That's so funny. No, I just hate getting drunk and then throwing up, bro. That's like the.
Josh
Oh, that's the worst, bro.
Ramon
Hey bro, you like scary movies?
Leo
Yeah, I mean, not. Okay. I don't like demonic scary movies.
Ramon
Oh yeah, like the conjuring.
Leo
I don't like that.
Ramon
Have you seen weapons?
Leo
No, I haven't.
Ramon
What you think about it, bro?
Josh
The fact that you said it wasn't demonic.
Ramon
I didn't think it was demonic.
Josh
It's. I feel like it's as demonic as it could be.
Ramon
But then witches are kind of demonic, right?
Josh
I would say so. Like witches, like, like.
Leo
Oh, I mean, no, I'm saying more like.
Ramon
Yeah, like the devil.
Leo
Yeah, like the like you know, conjuring.
Ramon
Or like the nun.
Leo
Yeah, yeah, that stuff. I don't watch that. I don't watch that stuff in my house. I like, you know the, the Mexico guys like coming to my house and watching those and I'm like, hey, I don't want that to be watching my house because that's all bad vibes, bro.
Josh
Bro, I'm telling you, I agree with that.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Because even with me, I watch a movie like that, it'll kind of shake my spirit, bro. Like I just don't. I feel, I feel uneasy.
Leo
Yeah, bro. So my thing is like, you know, all that stuff that, that they're doing in the movie? Like, it's real, you know? I mean, that comes into your house. You know what I mean?
Josh
Then don't watch weapons.
Leo
Okay?
Josh
Don't watch it.
Leo
Weapons. Which one? Which is that one you don't want the witches?
Ramon
No, yeah, it's one witch. It's about the kids that they. They disappear from the classroom.
Leo
Oh, okay.
Ramon
It's new. It's in theaters right now.
Leo
Which one? That Michael B. Jordan one.
Ramon
Oh, Sinners.
Josh
Sinners.
Leo
That one's cool.
Ramon
It's about vampires.
Leo
It's not. That's cool. Yeah.
Ramon
Is that demonic?
Josh
No.
Leo
Yeah, it is, kind of.
Ramon
But there was a part where they showed the horns, so Diablo way.
Dandy
No.
Leo
Yeah, but I feel like if. Like.
Ramon
But that was kind of like.
Leo
Yeah, if they're practicing, like. Like, yeah, it's. Because, bro, what happened, like, it's real. Like in the movies is something real, bro. Like, and it's just bad energy. Like, that's what it is for your home.
Josh
Yeah, it's bad energy.
Leo
Like, even, like, I remember my mom telling me, like. Like, oh.
Dandy
Oh, wow.
Leo
So, like, you know, you can bring a bad vibe from someone else's house to your house.
Ramon
Well, that explains a lot. Well, I remember going to my mom to the yardas every Saturday, Sunday. That was sick. I was like, what? What else do I need? I remember my mom, one time she bought me like, 30 R.L. stein Goosebump books. Okay, that was tight. Remember Goosebumps? Of course, was gonna say, I do like watching scary movies, but the movie Weapons, you didn't like it. You didn't like the storytelling of it.
Josh
The storytelling was cool.
Leo
Yeah.
Josh
I mean, it's a good watch. It wasn't my. It's not my kind of movie, though, bro. That's not my kind of movie.
Ramon
Nacho Libre is.
Leo
Thank you.
Ramon
You know, I mean, my favorite color is light tan.
Leo
I also like us step brothers.
Dandy
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh
So you like more comedies?
Leo
Will Ferrell for me, is goaded, bro.
Josh
Yeah, nights.
Ramon
You know what I'm watching right now? Every day. Yesterday I saw Austin Powers. Oh, and then today, no, two days ago, I saw the first Austin Powers. Yesterday I saw the Spy who Shagged Me. And today I'll watch Gold Member.
Leo
So I would watch, you know, Austin Powers when I was young and I didn't understand it, you know, when I was a little kid. But now I watch it.
Josh
I'm just like, this is hilarious.
Dandy
Funnies.
Josh
How old are you, bro?
Leo
I'm 31 years old. Oh, yeah. So I'm kind of. Bro, you Know. How old are you guys?
Josh
35.
Leo
35.
Ramon
31.
Leo
31.
Dandy
Yeah.
Ramon
35. Wait. Just kidding.
Leo
Still good. I'm still there.
Ramon
But, hey, your Jesus year is coming up. 33.
Leo
That's the Jesus year.
Ramon
That's going to be your year, bro.
Leo
So what does that mean?
Ramon
I tell him, Josh, in the Bible.
Josh
That'S kind of when he had, like, most of his, like, teachings was. He was 33, and that's when he died as well. So they call it, like, your Jesus year when you turn 33.
Leo
All right.
Ramon
And it was one of your best years, right?
Josh
Yeah, I'd say so.
Dandy
And so.
Ramon
So was I even. It might not have been our best, but it's something that, like, maybe sparked something, right? Yeah, sparked, like, something else in our career, our life.
Dandy
Life.
Ramon
Stuff like that.
Leo
I can't wait for 33, bro.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Bro, it was a pleasure having you on the podcast, man. Being able to hear you, hear your story. I. I took a lot from it. I learned a lot. I'm inspired by you.
Dandy
Yeah.
Josh
Thank you for coming on, man. Thank you for sharing your heart with us, bro. You're an incredible man, bro. I appreciate you.
Leo
Thank you guys for having me and stuff like, this is pretty cool. Salud. Shout out. Salute.
Josh
Yeah, bro, I'm gonna put you on. I'm gonna make sure I send you a whole thing for your.
Dandy
For the.
Josh
You have a. So it's like a warehouse.
Leo
Yeah. I mean, I know it's kind of far from you guys, but whenever you guys don't have anything to do and you guys just want to, like, kick the.
Ramon
Bro, we're from. I'm from the ie, bro. I go over there all the time, bro. I'm used to that drive. Yeah, I go there all the time, bro.
Josh
And stuff like that as well, bro.
Leo
I'll tell you guys to go. We can just.
Ramon
My phone number is still 951, my boy.
Leo
Oh, really?
Ramon
I don't change, bro.
Leo
No, but thank you guys for having me here. I appreciate it. You know, I. You know. You know, it's honored to be here with you guys.
Ramon
Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. It's honored to have you.
Leo
This is. This is probably one of the best podcasts I've been in.
Josh
Oh, bro, thank you.
Leo
Top out. You know, I appreciate that. So, man.
Josh
And you got to wear the shade.
Ramon
We all were rocking. Yeah. Hey, by the way, at the beginning of the show, we were like, let's all wear the shades because you look cool when you work.
Leo
Yeah, you look famous when you work.
Dandy
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Ramon
Appreciate you, man.
Leo
Thank you very much.
Josh
My boy said, bro, thank you so much. You're incredible, guys.
Ramon
You guys already follow Dandy hats? Follow them. If you're not, we'll put all the links in the description down below.
Josh
When's the next drop?
Leo
Bro, next drop is September 14th.
Josh
And, bro, these drops, like, if you're.
Ramon
Not on it, you're not.
Josh
You're not getting it.
Ramon
Get on it, get on it, guys. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, dudes.
Leo
Yo, can I buy Canelo tickets on Sea Geek?
Ramon
Yes, bro, of course you can.
Josh
And use code la plate for 10 off your ticket to purchase.
Ramon
Should we go?
Josh
Let's pull up. Oh, no, we can't. We're gonna be at a wedding. It's the day of the wedding.
Leo
September.
Ramon
It's the day of the wedding.
Josh
September 16th. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that fight. You going to that fight, right?
Leo
Yes, of course. They got me some tickets. Perks of doing a collab with Canelo, you know, Some free tickets.
Josh
Damn, bro. And that fight, too. Damn, that's gonna be sick.
Leo
That's. That's probably epic.
Josh
Do you have. Do you have a Canelo hat that you can rock, like from the collab?
Leo
Yeah, of course. Okay, I'll take it from somebody. Yeah, I'll cancel the order.
Ramon
All right, guys, there it is. Enjoy the rest of the week. Thank you again.
Dandy
See you, guys. Guys.
Leo
No one ever wants to eat winter sistle with me.
Date: August 25, 2025
Hosts: Sebastian “Sebas” Robles, Josh Leyva
Guest: Leonardo “Leo” Sandoval – Founder of Dandy Hats
This episode of LA PLATICA dives into the entrepreneurial journey of Leo Sandoval, the creative mind behind Dandy Hats, a brand that’s made waves in streetwear and Latino culture. The hosts and their guest explore the reality behind “overnight success,” the hustle of building a multimillion-dollar business, collaborations with icons like Canelo Alvarez, and the branding philosophy that defines Dandy’s rise. Listeners also get personal: Leo’s family roots, pivotal moments of doubt and breakthrough, and an inside look at his wild car collection and passions outside of fashion.
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Warm, candid, and motivational. Leo’s authenticity and the hosts’ chemistry make the episode equal parts funny, relatable, and truly inspiring. The focus is on humble origins, clever business strategy, Latino pride, and the reality of success beyond the Instagram highlights.
This episode is a must-listen if you’re interested in entrepreneurship, culture-driven branding, or just want to be inspired by a story of hustle, humility, and the quirky realities behind the “millionaire lifestyle.” Leo’s journey proves you can rewrite the rules—hat by hat.