Scientology, Reincarnation, and Other Deep Stuff (Pause)

Summary

LA PLATICA – Scientology, Reincarnation, and Other Deep Stuff (Pause)

Hosts: Sebastian Robles & Josh Leyva
Date: March 16, 2026
Notable Guest/Contributor: Jessica (Producer/Co-host in this episode)
Episode #: 238

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Podcast Overview

This episode laces LA warmth and humor with truly deep, existential questioning. Sebastian and Josh set out to riff on wild topics—Scientology, reincarnation, the origins of life, the meaning of humanity, and how we relate to the universe. The conversation shifts seamlessly between playful banter and genuinely profound reflection, inviting the listener along for a wild, mind-expanding ride. They reflect on recent standout guests, celebrate their community, and share their appreciation for curiosity and seeking, all while maintaining their characteristic comedic, uplifting tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter, Community Shout-Outs, and Sponsor Messages

• [00:00–01:53]
  • Quick SeatGeek promo interrupted by Josh’s joke: “Two words. Two sexy words.” [00:46]
  • Lighthearted transition to audience appreciation—shout-outs to gym-goers, dog-walkers, nurses, moms, and even the “guys ‘pretending’ not to listen.”
  • Notable quote, Sebastian: “Shout out to y’ all guys. Mondays don't suck. Feliz Lunes. That's right, Feliz. Hope you guys had a great weekend.” [03:23]
  • Tone: Playful, inclusive, LA-centric.

2. Recap and Reflections on Recent Guests

• [09:52–13:34]
  • Warm reminiscence about Mariana van Zeller’s guest episode—her impact, storytelling prowess, and unique perspective as an investigative journalist.
  • Josh: “That's one thing I love about being a podcaster is that we get to have these incredible conversations, and they're very intentional.” [12:07]
  • Sebastian: “It was my top three favorite episodes, if not my absolute favorite.” [16:32]
  • Praise for more “non-traditional” guests, shifting the show’s direction into educational, eye-opening territory.

3. Listener Feedback Spotlight

• [14:14–20:24]
  • Jessica reads and discusses community comments, focusing on how Mariana’s episode inspired new perspectives.
  • Listener quote: “Thank you for choosing to have a guest who is not an entertainer or an influencer. It's so important to feature guests who can educate and inform your audience.” [14:14]
  • Sebastian: “If you guys have any other recommendations who are sort of like Mariana, please let us know...” [14:02]

4. Breaking Down P-Rod’s Guest Episode

• [21:03–26:13]
  • Celebration of the vibe and relatability when skater Paul Rodriguez (“P-Rod”) came on.
  • Discussion of how his story inspired listeners—especially Latinas who didn’t follow skating, but connected with his grit.
  • “His determination and grit is admirable, and he motivated me so much,” a listener shared. [25:02]
  • Hosts reflect on encouraging men to be open/emotionally mature, and the power of representing Latino role models from various fields.

5. Existential Deep Dive: Interconnectedness, Nature, Dinosaurs, and Scientology

• [27:12–39:47]
  • Are Humans Connected?
    • Josh: “You know how they say we're all connected? Like everything is just like one. We're all just, you know, in tuned one thing. Yeah, I believe that.” [27:44]
    • Contrast between individual perception and collective experience; musings on energy, the butterfly effect, and consciousness.
  • Dinosaurs to Reincarnation
    • Sebas on watching a dinosaur documentary: “I sometimes do believe that our souls just kind of bounce around, especially like, when we're not alive anymore.” [30:06]
    • Discussion shifts to evolutionary history, random facts about birds descending from dinosaurs, and how little humanity knows about Earth’s past.
  • Scientology Sidebar
    • Josh: “The guy who created Scientology, he has the most fiction books ever written... He was an author, right?” [32:26, 32:58]
    • Jessica chimes in with the classic definition of Scientology and the concept of past lives—drawing a wry link to the episode’s existential questioning. [32:43]

6. Philosophy, Science, and Faith: Humanity’s Place in the Universe

• [39:51–52:44]
  • Spirited and comedic debate about fossil fuels (are they from dinosaurs?)
  • Extended riff on our limited human perspective and awe at the expanse of time—dinosaurs’ reign for 165 million years vs. only 300,000 years for Homo sapiens.
    • “We are literally a cancer to this earth and it's just crazy…if you look at the world now from high above…all these freeways and rivers…and you compare that to cancer cells, it's almost identical.” —Sebastian [41:47]
  • The “cosmic perspective” and the humility that comes from realizing how short our existence really is.

7. Religion, God, and the Universe

• [42:39–54:50]
  • Spirited, open conversation about God’s domain—Does God only govern Earth? Was there a God during the Jurassic era?
  • “So God doesn't just control Earth, it controls other planets. It controls everything that is anything, anything.” —Josh [49:25]
  • Brainstorming about the Trinity, Jesus’ origin, and ponderings about whether God could have tried different “experiments” (e.g., dinosaurs, then humans).
  • Discussion of the Bible, the timeline of humanity, and the limits of historical/religious records.
  • Josh: “She [Mariana] also said, fuck what people think.” [18:25]
  • Philosophical musings on how “religion is people forming teams,” and the importance of seeing a bigger picture. [52:08]

8. Reincarnation, Parallel Universes, and Time

• [63:27–65:22]
  • Joking and theorizing: What if past/future lives aren’t linear? What about parallel universes? Interstellar timelines get a shoutout.
  • Jessica: “Who's to say you follow a linear timeline?” [64:15]
  • Josh: “We're scraping the surface of, like, how deep and big it is. Pause.” [65:05]
  • Episode closes with both awe and humor: “Shout out to all dinosaurs. See you.” —Sebastian [65:52]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Perspective:
  “If you just have that perspective of, like, life…it's supposed to scare you. Like, man, is massive.” —Josh [52:33]

• On the Value of Conversation:
  “I think these types of conversations are very podcasty. They're very, like, sit down, watch while you do your makeup, while you get ready for work, while you do this. It's just, like, very interesting. And they're random, therefore you probably have never heard them.” —Sebastian [65:05]

• On God’s Scale:
  “God is so much bigger, and humans here on Earth talk about the littlest things about him…in reality, he's probably like, man, that's all you guys think about? I'm so much more than that.” —Sebastian [51:13]

• On Reincarnation Possibilities:
  “Like maybe we were past humans that only know so much about life and then we…jump into another, you know, vessel and then we get to learn all this new things…” —Josh [63:41]

• Signature Humor:
  “You want balls in your throat? Hell, no. You stay gurgling.” —Sebastian (on Neil deGrasse Tyson’s ‘creator error’ observation) [44:33]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:00–01:53] – Banter, SeatGeek promo, appreciation for listeners
• [09:52–13:34] – Reflections on Mariana van Zeller and guest curation
• [14:14–20:24] – Listener/Community feedback (comments reading)
• [21:03–26:13] – P-Rod episode reactions and the podcast’s positive representation
• [27:12–39:47] – Existential discussion: Are humans connected? Dinosaurs, energy, and Scientology
• [42:39–52:44] – Science and philosophy: Fossil fuels debate, humanity’s place in the universe
• [54:12–59:12] – Human origins, Bible timeline, and time on earth
• [63:27–65:22] – Reincarnation and parallel universe musings

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Closing Themes

• Ultimate Takeaways:
  • Life is fleeting—so be good, love unconditionally, and soak it in.
  • Our problems are minuscule in the context of time, Earth, and the universe.
  • Stay curious, ask “ridiculous” questions, and enjoy connecting with others.

Final Note:
Sebas, Josh, and Jessica urge listeners to submit their own existential questions for a future episode, doubling down on their commitment to going beyond surface-level conversation and embracing “deep stuff”—with a healthy dose of humor and humanity.

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End of Episode 238 Summary
(See you next Monday! 🦕)

Transcript

[Josh Ley]

The Scientologist?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, yeah. What goes on in there?

[Josh Ley]

Scary shit, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

Are you sure?

[Josh Ley]

The guy who created Scientology, he has the most, bro. There was a point in human history where people thought that we were the center of the universe, you know, so even as humans, we have evolved and learned so much, even, like reincarnation, like, you think about, like, maybe we were past humans that only know so much about life, and then we, you know, we jump into another, you know, vessel, and then we get to learn all this new things about where, like, life is, you know, just continues to grow like that.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay, so God doesn't just control Earth. It controls other planets.

[Josh Ley]

It controls everything that is anything, anything.

[Sebastian Roble]

So do you think he sent Jesus Christ to somewhere else too?

[Josh Ley]

Potentially? He might be somewhere else right now. Guys, I got two words for you. Two sexy words.

[Sebastian Roble]

Shoot.

[Josh Ley]

Josh Layer. I like to speak like this.

[Sebastian Roble]

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[Josh Ley]

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[Sebastian Roble]

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[Josh Ley]

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[Sebastian Roble]

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[Josh Ley]

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[Sebastian Roble]

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[Josh Ley]

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[Sebastian Roble]

All right.

[Josh Ley]

I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Yeah, I'll see you guys in 12.4 segundos.

[Sebastian Roble]

And now, ciao.

[Josh Ley]

I'm gonna use it.

[Jessica]

Let me be honest.

[Sebastian Roble]

Every guest is a privilege.

[Josh Ley]

Do we want to go there, get jolly?

[Sebastian Roble]

Cause I'm on a podcast with Josh Ley. Yeah, you have two.

[Josh Ley]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me just tell

[Jessica]

you, this is la Platica Episode 238.

[Josh Ley]

238.

[Sebastian Roble]

238. Come on, baby, we ate.

[Josh Ley]

Come on, baby. We ate. We. We ate to today.

[Sebastian Roble]

Hey, welcome to La Platica, ladies and gentlemen. Mainly ladies, Shout out to y'.

[Josh Ley]

All ladies, what's up with it?

[Sebastian Roble]

Hey, yo, we see you at the gym. Where else? Come on, man.

[Josh Ley]

We see you. You walking your dog. It's a cute dog. Give it a little for me on

[Sebastian Roble]

the way to work. Drive safe. Yes, thank you for asking.

[Josh Ley]

The nurses too. Shout out to them because we got them. Nurses be listening to us.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, shout out to y'. All. And the nurses who be drinking salud during the day. Shout out to them during the night.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, the moms out there.

[Sebastian Roble]

Child. Mom.

[Josh Ley]

You know, I mean, moms.

[Sebastian Roble]

What's up? And those little going and those little bit of guys that just. They can just hear us in the background, but they act like they not listening. But you listening.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, shout out to y'.

[Jessica]

All.

[Josh Ley]

Hey, what up, Big Dog? Yo, what's your pants looking like? Yeah, bro, I see those arms. Looking good, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

Big Dog.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, what's up? I see you with it.

[Sebastian Roble]

We over here benching 225, brother.

[Josh Ley]

Bro, I like that. Your whip is looking good too, boy. Looking clean.

[Sebastian Roble]

Shout out to y' all guys. Mondays don't suck. Feliz Lunes. That's right, Feliz. Hope you guys had a great weekend.

[Josh Ley]

You know what I've realized too? We always say, like, happy Monday. But if you're listening to this on a Tuesday or a Thursday, happy day to you. You know what I mean? Go out there and make it a good one.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know what? Sometimes you write, sometimes you write, you know, shout out to our sponsors over at Seat Geek. Number one rated ticketing app on the App Store. I want to know what you want. We've been doing this for so long already and we always talk about SeatGeek. Who has really bought tickets. I'm assuming everybody Comment down below. Yeah, comment down below. If you use Laa 10 once already, I just want to know. Cuz I'mma look.

[Josh Ley]

I feel like people do use our codes. Cuz I get like family members that'll hit me up, be like, oh, my God, I just use your code. And it makes me so happy because I feel like, okay, people are using the code.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, man.

[Josh Ley]

You know, it's cool. Obviously not to go on a tangent here. We, we're very blessed to be able to work with a lot of sponsors. But when you get a sponsor that you just truly like, love and use as like us, right? It just makes me happy that people Use it, and they love it, and we can stand by it, like, proudly. Like, Sea Geek is awesome, and it is what it is, you know?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Right. It's definitely a good feeling, because, I mean, I ain't gonna lie. Yeah. There's been some sponsored people who we've talked about. I'll be real with you. And we did it because it helps out the podcast. It does.

[Josh Ley]

Of course.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, all the quality, we got bills to pay, and the audio that you hear just got to get paid.

[Josh Ley]

Just as expensive. People.

[Sebastian Roble]

There's people that got to get paid, like, they helped out, but there's some, you know, that were like, you know, it's.

[Josh Ley]

It's cool.

[Sebastian Roble]

It was cool, but it's not. Se, man, se. Got you covered.

[Josh Ley]

See? Got you covered.

[Sebastian Roble]

Damn. You know. You know what I just noticed right now? You're giving us a sneak peek. Just the way that you look. Soft, flexing looks. The way that you look right now, it's like it's. It's creeping up to Coachella. Yeah. Like, I'm starting to see it. You know, it's. Sorry. You know, I feel like once Coachella hits, like, especially if you're from California or obviously if you travel from anywhere in the United States, you participate in Coachella. Ness. It's like Coachella is the first Energy, first. Yeah. The first thing that us humans, we really. If you go. If you experience. But even if you don't go, you just see it everywhere. That's when you know that summer is. Is approaching and the good vibes start rolling.

[Josh Ley]

Summer is upon us.

[Sebastian Roble]

Summer is upon us.

[Josh Ley]

You know, it's funny that you brought up my fit, because this fit is. Would you say this somewhat of a coachella fit?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. 100, right?

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Right. Like, sunglasses, cut off shirt, kind of like, you know, cool pants and stuff. I. We, obviously, Salud is going to be representing at Coachella.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

And we have, like, a really cool. I shouldn't. Maybe I shouldn't even be saying this, but we have a. We have something cool planned. I'll just say that for Coachella.

[Sebastian Roble]

You can say that for Chella. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

And I shot some content, actually, at Coachella, and this was one of the outfits that I wore. And then I put it on, I was like, I'm gonna wear this shit to La Platica. You know, I mean, you gotta make the most out of it.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's funny you say that, because.

[Josh Ley]

Do you do that, too?

[Sebastian Roble]

There'll be sometimes where I'll wear a fit on La Platica, and then Nobody knows. But, like, I'll wear the same fit the next day. But it's okay because, like, even if you see that fit when I put it on Instagram stories or whatever, it doesn't matter because you never knew. You never knew that I wore it on the platica because the episode is later in the future, for all you

[Josh Ley]

knew, you recorded that same day that you're wearing the outfit that somebody saw you.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

For all you knew.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Like this hoodie. You're seeing it obviously in the future, which is today.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

But you've probably already seen me in this hoodie because I've already been living. Yeah. Hey. L I V I n living, baby.

[Josh Ley]

I n. How you doing, bro? How's everything?

[Sebastian Roble]

It's good, man. Just got back from Cabo. How was it? Number one place in the world to be.

[Josh Ley]

Does it. Does it ever fail?

[Sebastian Roble]

It has not. That's always great.

[Josh Ley]

Did it hit?

[Sebastian Roble]

What do you think? Son of a. Was it.

[Josh Ley]

Was it. Was it. Was it lit?

[Sebastian Roble]

It was lit, yeah. Restaurants are lit. The thing is, and I've talked about. I feel like I'm just a broken record now. Cabo hits all the check marks, baby.

[Josh Ley]

I do.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's a two hour flight. Flight's not that expensive. Could be all inclusive resorts, they're not that expensive. Some of them could be. So you get both. You can. It can be luxury and then it can just be chill.

[Josh Ley]

Chill.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, you can party, Party. Or you can just keep it relaxed at the resort.

[Josh Ley]

Chill.

[Sebastian Roble]

You can eat. Well, you can eat street food or you can go to the finest dining that Baja, maybe even the world has to offer.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. I'm a big Cabo guy myself. I love Cabo.

[Sebastian Roble]

Always get a nice little boat. No, just hang out. Cabo is one of those.

[Josh Ley]

It doesn't get old either. Like when you're never going through the Channel and you go into the ocean and stuff and you see the. The Eladico. It's all beautiful.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's a huge Disneyland for us. Yeah, man. You know, it's. It's wonderful. The people that I was there celebrating with, it was their first time in Cabo.

[Josh Ley]

No way.

[Sebastian Roble]

I was there for. For my friend Aaron's 40th birthday, and it was just a bunch of rooks. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Bunch of rugs.

[Sebastian Roble]

Sorry, Aaron. He called you a rook.

[Josh Ley]

Get your Cabo up.

[Sebastian Roble]

Get your. Hey, for real, though. Get your Cabo. Hey. But he did. He did his thing at Mango Deck. He did his thing at Mango Deck. I'll show you videos later. Yeah. He got points. Like, he did Cabo. Like, he did it right, bro.

[Josh Ley]

My passport is just a Cabo. Passport. Cabo.

[Sebastian Roble]

Cabo. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Literally.

[Sebastian Roble]

I feel like. I feel like it. No, it was a great time, man. If you've ever been visiting Kabul, it's. It's amazing.

[Josh Ley]

It is fun.

[Sebastian Roble]

And so it's a good time. And you know me, since I'm, like, a veteran there, I. I definitely wanted to show them a good time. Not that I planned anything, but, like, I got the energy. I had to. I had to be there with my energy, you know?

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. You know the ropes.

[Sebastian Roble]

I know the ropes. So it's like there was a big responsibility.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, a big weight on my shoulders.

[Josh Ley]

That's amazing, man. You look nice and toasty, but, like, a good toasty. You know what I mean?

[Sebastian Roble]

And I have my hoodie on. We worked out this morning. I did look tan.

[Josh Ley]

You did look tan. You look good, man. You look really good.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

To shift gears real quick, we had some incredible guests come on La Platica as of recent P. Rod.

[Sebastian Roble]

Mariana.

[Josh Ley]

That's all right. So Mariana.

[Sebastian Roble]

No, it's okay, because she does have a. I feel like Mariana is a popular name, but it's a name that you have to think about. But, yeah, it's like, is it Maria or Mariana or Mariana or something? You know what I mean? So I get it, because even though, like, I know her name, Mariana Van Zeller, I'm not rude like you.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

I still have to, like, think about it.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, no, that's fair. And whatever. And even Jess had it up for me here, and I. I'm sorry, Mariana, we adore you, and you were, honestly, a really incredible guest to have on, and very insightful and just badass.

[Sebastian Roble]

More guests like that in 2026 and forever, please.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Yeah. But Jess took it upon herself to pull some comments up about some of these episodes.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay, I like this.

[Josh Ley]

And we're gonna react because I like to hear what the people are saying.

[Sebastian Roble]

Let's do it.

[Josh Ley]

You know what I'm saying? People of the La Platiga nation, I

[Sebastian Roble]

think that we should come up with a name for this, like, section that we sometimes talk about. Maybe not now, but we'll come up with a like, oh, it's time for.

[Josh Ley]

So if you want to be featured in this.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's time for Fill the blank.

[Josh Ley]

Make sure to leave a comment below, and maybe you'll be featured in one of these. It's time for Fill in the Blank. Maybe that's what it's called.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's time for. It's time for fill in the blank.

[Jessica]

All right, Jess, hit us on that note about the quality of guests that we had, starting with Mariana.

[Josh Ley]

Come on, girl.

[Jessica]

Literally what somebody. Yo, Stacy said. One of, if not the most impressive guests on La Platica, Reina Martinez said, I was in complete disbelief when I saw her name. Top tier episode. Thanks, La Platica. And again, this first slide is just people kind of sharing the same sentiment. Right. This episode went by so, so fast. Like, that's how good it was. And I think I told you guys, like, the conversation was just so captivating and so different than, like, any other guests that we've had on the show has been able to offer. Right. Because how many journalists and with her background have we had?

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And as fans of her show, I feel like we were all kind of just like, whoa, like this.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

I mean, to your point, Jess, like, even somebody like her, how often do you get to really sit down and chat with somebody like that in your life? Like, it's very unique. Even, like, that's one thing I love about being a podcaster, is that we get to have these incredible conversations, and they're very intentional. Like, we get to sit, okay, we're going to talk. Even when we had on Mark Cuban, dude, how often do you get it? I haven't talked to another billionaire since, and hopefully I. I will again one day. But it's so unique. And she was one of those, like, the lens, the perspective that she has for life is just. It's one of a kind. Literally, one of a kind.

[Sebastian Roble]

I left that episode thinking, like, damn, imagine just being her friend and going out to lunch with her. Yeah, I think it's crazy. It's just these amazing humans roam around the streets and nobody even knows. You know what I mean? But, yeah, she has an amazing show called Traffic. I believe it's five seasons on Hulu. And I know we talked about it before, but if you haven't seen it, like, it's such an upscale, like, show. Show. Yeah, I was gonna say like, documentary, but, like, kind of. But, like, it's just a show. It's a really good show. You guys should definitely watch it. And you guys can actually see Mariana in a different lens than what you guys saw her here. It's just, like, completely different. It's like, it's her, but, like, in this creative, locked in, more powerful character, and it's just crazy. Like, I. I spoke to her, and I remember, I was like, how do you get away with this? Kind of stuff, you know, and it's just crazy. You see her, she's very good looking young lady and her work noise.

[Josh Ley]

Right?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Ryan, shut up. That'll get him.

[Sebastian Roble]

You shut him up real good. Yeah. She's just such an interesting human being. So. Yeah, you know, I. I think she just gets away with some stuff. Not saying that she always does, but it's very interesting the way that she speaks with these other powerful.

[Josh Ley]

No, and she was self aware of like the things that she gets away with, bro. Like, she's very unique. She's. Man, she's. She's special for sure. To say the least.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. So it was really good. It was amazing. And yeah, if you guys have any other recommendations who are sort of like Mariana, please let us know and we'll spam them. Spam those mother.

[Jessica]

I want to say idream of Diamonds said thank you for choosing to have a guest who is not an entertainer or an influencer. It's so important to feature guests who can educate and inform your audience about important issues happening in the world outside of pop culture and entertainment.

[Josh Ley]

Love that.

[Jessica]

Especially right now with everything happening politically here in the U.S. yeah. Great work, guys. And I hope this is a start of more guests like this.

[Josh Ley]

See these kind of comments right here, fire me up. Because sometimes I get in my head about like, what people want to see. I enjoy talking to people like Mariana.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right.

[Josh Ley]

But I don't know if our audience always does so to get this kind of feedback from people just. I think it's very telling. And this why I with LP Nation.

[Sebastian Roble]

What's that?

[Josh Ley]

Wait, what's up, Grassy on StairMaster?

[Jessica]

You're so ugly.

[Sebastian Roble]

Sometimes you're. Sometimes I'm so used to you. You say funny stuff, but it's average. But sometimes you say some funny.

[Josh Ley]

All right, what else? Jess?

[Jessica]

Sebastian Roble. Wow. You literally killed it this episode.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, is this the Mariana episode?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Josh Ley]

Yes.

[Jessica]

You did an amazing job with all of these questions that I'm sure many of us were asking.

[Josh Ley]

Thank you. He did do an amazing.

[Sebastian Roble]

I appreciate that.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, you led that very well, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

I just think sometimes it's like we have amazing guests and even when it's just me and you and people always get like one flavor of Sevas, which is more comedic, funny, like hopefully great conversations sometimes. But with Mariana, it's almost like I really. I respect her. So I. I wanted to get to her level in some way. Not that I don't get on other people's levels, but you know what I mean? Like, it just when you're around other people, it just, it might bring something else from you.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

So it's like, maybe that's why. But no, I really like.

[Josh Ley]

You're also on your A game.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, I was. Because Mariana is, she's massive, bro.

[Josh Ley]

And like, we were intimidated slightly in

[Sebastian Roble]

the sense of like, I told her. Remember I told her. Yeah. I was like, I. I hope that you, you like us. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Because we want to like maximize that conversation.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right.

[Josh Ley]

And we want to do our best and sometimes that could be intimidating. Like we want to make sure we ask these questions that. I'm just going to say, like we don't want to waste her time. You know what I mean? And we want her to feel like she, you know, gained from this experience as well and was really able to articulate and, and express, you know, what she does and her mission and everything. And I think we did a great job at doing that.

[Sebastian Roble]

It was my top three favorite episodes, if not my, my absolute favorite. And I told you, and I even called you after we. We're done with that interview. And I said these are the people and these are the episodes that I'm excited to post and, and let the world see. And it makes me proud of this platform because I was so eager to see what the people would say. Cuz I knew in my head that it was going to be money and gold.

[Josh Ley]

And I will say this, and I, I. She probably doesn't want me to admit this, but she did say that we're better looking than Joe Rogan off camera.

[Sebastian Roble]

She did?

[Josh Ley]

She said that? I'm just going to say it.

[Sebastian Roble]

She did. And it was the best compliment. Cuz we literally asked her how did we genuinely compare to Joe Rogan? Which is a crazy thing to ask somebody who's been on his show multiple times and was like, you know what? You guys are so much better good looking than him. And she kind of said that we. What was the other thing she said? She said that we allowed her to, to really speak.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, and not that I guess Joe didn't, but I guess Joe spoke more or whatever.

[Josh Ley]

They also had a three hour podcast and like we said, she's been on that show like numerous times. But yeah, that's his style. You know, everybody has different styles.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

You know, and you did also say, and I think this is cool, like behind the curtains Sevas after that said after the camera's cut and everything, he was like, I'm really glad that you said that. Sometimes I feel like I tend to talk a Lot. And don't let our guests shine as much as I would like to. And she paid you your compliments of saying, like, no, you talk. This is why people want to listen to la. They want to hear you guys. So don't be ashamed. And look at Rogan. Like, yes, he talked more than me, so to say. Right. Or talked a lot, but he's the number one podcaster in the world and it's his show. And it's his show.

[Sebastian Roble]

She also said, like, I get that a lot of mine.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And she might not want us to

[Josh Ley]

say this, but she said we're better looking than Joe Rogan.

[Sebastian Roble]

She did say that. But she also said, fuck what people think.

[Jessica]

Wow.

[Josh Ley]

Did you tell me, though. I did hear that.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. She said that. Right? Confirming she said that.

[Josh Ley]

She did say that.

[Sebastian Roble]

Good.

[Josh Ley]

If you're going to. If in order to be Mariana Von Zeller, you have to have that mindset. It's the only way it works. You know what I mean? Cuz she. She's going into some crazy situations, bro, and she's. She's doing what she's got to do.

[Sebastian Roble]

Imagine, like interrupting a cartel kingpin. Hey, you know what?

[Josh Ley]

To tell them that. That LA boys are better looking than Joe Rogan. Like that.

[Sebastian Roble]

She did say that, dude. She did say that. Big compliment. Imagine.

[Josh Ley]

Is it, though?

[Sebastian Roble]

Why not? She goes, yeah, you know, we have some good conversations, but you guys are better. Good looking, though. No, I. I believe she.

[Josh Ley]

No, it was all in good fun. It wasn't like, like, it was sick, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

It was sick. It was sick.

[Josh Ley]

Next, Jess.

[Jessica]

This is from Tanya Ortiz. As someone who works in journalism, in parentheses, support your local papers and reporters. They're out there doing the great work that often goes unnoticed. Yes, it's great, great to hear from someone like Mariana, who's such a badass in the industry that's been dominated by men for so long.

[Josh Ley]

Yes.

[Jessica]

Kudos to Sebas and Josh for bringing her on the show and. And diving into the world of journalism, especially during this era when we're constantly under attack.

[Josh Ley]

I love that. First of all, shout out to all the journalists out there in the world and. And just even hearing the background story of Mariana, like, she wasn't always this top dog, right? Like, she started like she was pursuing her dream and her career and like, life kind of fell into certain places and she stepped into those moments when it was her time, you know? So shout out to every journal. I have. So my respect for journalism increased tremendously. I. I haven't really dove deep into that world and what it entails. But just hearing that from her was her story and everything. I was so inspired. So shout out to all the journalisms out. Journalists. Journalists. Sorry.

[Sebastian Roble]

Journalists.

[Josh Ley]

Journalists out there for doing your thing. Small, big. Just spreading awareness and, you know, bringing these stories to the world.

[Sebastian Roble]

I think it's the coolest freaking job you can. You can do, even if it's not your job and you do it for a hobby. That's the coolest thing ever. That and people who, like, are up, like, at 3, 4 in the morning and they have the police scanner and then they go to, like, accident or crime scenes.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Like the movie Nightcrawler.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. I think that's such. Such a cool job, too.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. But, yeah, it was. It was amazing. It was amazing show P. Rod. Oh, parent.

[Josh Ley]

Mr. Handsome man himself.

[Sebastian Roble]

What? What?

[Josh Ley]

The Bachelor.

[Sebastian Roble]

What a guy. I can genuinely say that I think we're homies now.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, dude.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right? Imagine, like. Yeah, yeah, we. I. P. Rod was over. We're boys now, and. Yeah. We're gonna skate. Yeah.

[Jessica]

From my perspective, you guys are vibing.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I feel like both of you were kind of living your childhood. Holy.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, for sure. The thing is, like, Josh and myself, like, you might see us on camera, think what. What freaking honks. Right. Or like, what great personality these guys have. But let me. Let me remind you that, like, off camera, it's even 10 times more than that. We are what we. What you call a catch. And we are to other people, like, whoa, these guys are cool. And we're so easy going. Okay, now being serious, we're so, like,

[Josh Ley]

where are you going with this?

[Sebastian Roble]

We're so easy going. And especially now with women, with. With whatever. When there's a guy who's one of us, it's so easy going to speak with anybody. Right. Josh and myself, we're already super outgoing as it is, and I feel like people love us. I honestly genuinely think no one hates us in this world. I hope not. Yeah. But there's, you know, there's. There's a lot of people that we mean. It's like, it's really easy going. It's just maybe even for me, I'm speaking for myself, but it was just a nice breath of fresh air. Regardless of who Paul Rodriguez is. Just to have another guy.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, even when I was. When we were done with that, with that episode, I was like, we should invite, like, two other dudes in here and just, like, shoot it up dude style.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

But, like, talk about like things that like women would want to hear. Yeah. Right. So that in the books. But yeah, it was really cool. And you know, sometimes when it is do talk, me and Josh do worry about hopefully the audience back at home shout out to the girls that hopefully you guys enjoy it, you know, but I think you guys did. Hopefully.

[Josh Ley]

And we wanted to really lean into, you know, hearing about his like love life a little bit.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Which I thought made it really cool then just because obviously he's an incredible skater with a lot of accolades, as they say. But he's also single.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. And even. Yeah. And he even told us like, bro, like I love this. Like, because every time I go on a podcast they always ask me the

[Josh Ley]

same, how'd you let that kick flip, dude?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. And we're not like that. We don't ever like to be like that. We just like to kick it.

[Josh Ley]

But let's hear what the people have to say. Jess.

[Jessica]

Yeah. On that note, about making sure that you're not alienating the ladies. Yeah, like the ladies were definitely tapped in, you know. Holy hell. This is Jess, not me. Jess. XXIV Holy hell. P Rod was my first celebrity crush during middle school years when skater boys were it. This was such a great watch.

[Sebastian Roble]

I said, see you later, boy.

[Jessica]

Crystal Rose said P Rod was my crush in high school. I would watch his skating videos and the Nike commercial on repeat.

[Sebastian Roble]

Oh yeah, I do remember that Nike commercial.

[Josh Ley]

Boner alert.

[Jessica]

Daniel Largudo said, y' all really took me back with this episode. So, so much respect for P Rod. So the ladies, the ladies were definitely okay.

[Josh Ley]

That makes me happy. That makes me happy 100%.

[Sebastian Roble]

I saw some of the comments.

[Josh Ley]

I mean he was known. He, he's still known, but he was like a heartthrob for sure. Especially like in his younger days.

[Sebastian Roble]

He's good. He's a good looking guy.

[Josh Ley]

Charmer.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. And I get it. Like cuz when we were, when we were, you know, watching P Rod on TV or on the skate videos, it was this almost the same era as like Disney boy band like era. And you know, they all kind of look the same. It's just pure. I was just Mexican. So all the like Latinas were like, yeah.

[Jessica]

Jacqueline Cortez said, As a 31 year old Latina, I'm not interested in skating. Never have been.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay.

[Jessica]

But grew up. No, sorry. But grew up knowing who Paul Rodriguez was.

[Sebastian Roble]

Let's go.

[Jessica]

I very much appreciate learning about a story. Story. His perseverance and his accomplishments. Despite not having any interest in skateboarding I really appreciated this episode. His determination and grit is admirable, and he motivated me so much.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Yeah, he was definitely inspiring. I. I took. I could tell that he was also very inspired by Kobe, like, the mama mentality, and he really, like, harnessed a lot of that in his, like, in his profession.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

You know, the dude is, like, on a different level. And even hearing it from. From Rainbow about, like, how different he was when he was, like, a kid is. I don't know. It's truly inspiring, bro. Like, he's.

[Sebastian Roble]

He's.

[Josh Ley]

He's. He's been so determined at such a young age.

[Sebastian Roble]

All those people that we see that wreak greatness.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

In whatever they do, they always have somewhat of a similar story, much different to the average Joe. Siono. Yeah. Like your story. Thanks, dude.

[Jessica]

Nancy Avalo said, God is great, and I mean it. I hope to be at the ultimate showdown. P Rod. This P Rod right here reawakened a little part of my inner child that needed to be tapped into.

[Sebastian Roble]

I love that.

[Jessica]

Thank you guys for the great platicas.

[Josh Ley]

Did we pick the winner?

[Jessica]

No, not yet. But I mean, on. What is it the Dr. Strunge thing?

[Sebastian Roble]

Oh, yeah.

[Jessica]

By the time this goes up, it

[Josh Ley]

will have already selected. Okay.

[Jessica]

Winners selected Thursday at noon.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, perfect. So, okay, so they still have time, but back then.

[Jessica]

Yeah. If you're watching this, you don't have any. The event actually already passed.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay, down. Cool.

[Josh Ley]

Love that. I love that comment.

[Jessica]

Wow.

[Sebastian Roble]

I love that. I love that a lot.

[Josh Ley]

Was that everything, Jess?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Brilliant.

[Sebastian Roble]

Good.

[Josh Ley]

That was so good, man. Please, I love to hear from you guys, like, what you guys think of, like, our episodes and the guests that we have on the constructive criticism. We want it all. So don't be afraid. If you feel a type of way. If you've never commented on a video before, but you feel something when you watch ours, I'm asking you to, like, step out of your comfort zone and comment. I want to hear your voice. I want to hear what you. What you think about this, because it only helps us get better.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right.

[Josh Ley]

And. And continues to motivate and encourage us to. To do what we do.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. 100.

[Josh Ley]

Dude, there's. This is so random. I've had so many beels in my life. Just took a bite, and I literally, like, I could taste. I could. I. I know what she was experiencing. That's how many bear bells I've had in my life, bro. Like, I literally heard her bite down and I felt the softness and A little bit of the crunch of the nut. And I was like, I know what it's happening right now with Jess. You know how they say we're all connected? Like everything is just like one. We're all just, you know, in tuned one thing. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that.

[Sebastian Roble]

I. Like, like a butterfly effect?

[Josh Ley]

No, like, yeah, I mean, maybe like,

[Sebastian Roble]

or in tuned, like lifestyle wise.

[Josh Ley]

I think just with certainty, like, everything is connected, you know, like we all kind of experience the same thing in a way. We feel the same way, you know? You know how people say, like the, like we, we all view color in a different way, like potentially. I don't believe that. I think we all view color the same way. No, to, to, to an extent. Of course, if you're colorblind or like. But to an extent.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, to an ex.

[Josh Ley]

I think, I think maybe that was a dumb example, but.

[Sebastian Roble]

No, no, I, I, I think it's true. I think every single human is a little different.

[Josh Ley]

A little different.

[Sebastian Roble]

I think, I think we see like me and you and like Jess, we probably see red as red, but I don't know, Jess might see it a little bit more vibrant than me. Like, I, I believe that like, there's no way that our human body is exactly the same. Yeah. My eyes are not exactly the same. Like, as color wise.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

As Jess might be better, might be worse. I don't think we're like, incredibly like percentage wise equal. We're not. Fuck no, we're not.

[Josh Ley]

Actually, I meant like experience. I mean like more of a deeper sense, bro. Like you more like physical. Physiologically physical.

[Sebastian Roble]

I'm only talking, I'm only talking about that because you brought up the color stuff.

[Josh Ley]

Okay, that's, no, no, no. That's a good example of something different.

[Sebastian Roble]

But no, I believe in energy.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Like our hearts, our souls are like so like we're all like synced in a way.

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, I kind of sometimes believe that our souls have crossed paths. Do you know how old Earth is? Oh my God. If you guys haven't seen, there's a thing on Netflix right now. It's called the Dinosaurs. And I was just watching it right now and I just, it just grasped me so hard. Pause. Just how much like the dinosaurs. Certain dinosaur eras. Because dinosaurs have been around like.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, longer than us.

[Sebastian Roble]

65 million years ago, there was dinosaurs. Right. But even like 80 millions. 80 million millions of years ago, there was different types of dinosaurs.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And 40 million years ago, the 65 million years, dinosaurs changed into other dinosaurs.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. They evolve.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. So I don't know when our type of souls and spirits and energies came into place. I don't know if we were dinosaurs at once, but I sometimes do believe that our souls just kind of bounce around, especially, like, when we're not alive anymore. I don't know how exactly, but I do believe, obviously, in a higher power, and that higher power gives us these souls to power us up. But I do believe that we sometimes feel alike because we are alike. Yeah, right. I do feel like even sometimes, we might live a same life because we spend a lot of time together. So we are in sync. Right. You know, you're really in sync with your partner. So am I. We probably think the same in some certain things, but I do feel like humanity sometimes is in sync. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Ley]

And I even think deeper than that, bro. I meant, like, I'm talking about, like, the earth, animals, plants.

[Jessica]

Oh.

[Josh Ley]

Things that are around us.

[Sebastian Roble]

That's 100. That's 100.

[Josh Ley]

We are all, like, one.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. You know, it's the energy.

[Josh Ley]

And I don't mean to sound like, you know, all, like, hippie dibby and stuff, but I don't know, I think it. I think that there is something to that.

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, it is hippie dibby, but at the same time, you're absolutely right.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

The only reason why we even breathe is because of the trees outside and the oxygen that they produce.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Even on the Amazon river, it produces, what, 30% of Earth's oxygen? If it wasn't for all the trees and stuff. And. And for 40 million years ago, Earth or something like that. Earth used to be this. Like, Mars.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And so there was a huge storm that supposedly it rained for, like, a million years.

[Josh Ley]

Whoa.

[Sebastian Roble]

And it just flooded Earth and changed the atmosphere and gave birth to. What is it by, like, more type of biology, I guess. I don't know, like, trees and stuff like that. So it changed the. The. The Earth's atmosphere, as in, like, the air and the carbon dioxide that. That we breathe, so.

[Josh Ley]

Bro, chill out, Bill Nye.

[Sebastian Roble]

I love science, bro, but I'm not like, you know, those dudes that go to those science churches? What are they called?

[Josh Ley]

Scientologists.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

What goes on in there?

[Josh Ley]

Scary, bro, is.

[Sebastian Roble]

Are you. Are you sure?

[Josh Ley]

The guy who created Scientology, he has the most fiction books ever written. What's up, Jess? Why are you making that face?

[Jessica]

I didn't mean to interrupt. Sorry, but it's just funny.

[Sebastian Roble]

Come on, it's us three today is

[Jessica]

a belief system created by L. Ron Hubbard, centering on the belief that humans are immortal, spiritual beings who have lived past lives. So it's just funny.

[Sebastian Roble]

We're kind of talking about that though.

[Jessica]

And then it.

[Josh Ley]

But that's just one small part of it, correct?

[Jessica]

Yes, but it was just funny.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, but he's, he's an, he was an author, right? From my understanding. And he was a fiction author

[Sebastian Roble]

and

[Josh Ley]

he wrote the most like fiction books, like ever. And check this out, Check it out. Google it.

[Sebastian Roble]

Google it.

[Josh Ley]

Put it on your little Google machine.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, before she Googles that and finds that out, there's a. This is crazy thing because I'm so fascinated by dinosaurs as well. Is that before the dinosaurs, like the T. Rexes and the Tyrannosaurus. No, same thing. T. Rexes, the pterodactyls.

[Josh Ley]

Like Tyrannosaurus.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, like the dinosaurs that all the kids love. That we love, that we grew up with the Jurassic park times. The. Well it's called, it's called the Jurassic era. That, that time. But millions and millions and millions of years before that, the world was ruled by reptiles. Like they look like dinosaurs too, but it was more reptiles. But for some reason there was this little bird. I forgot what it was called. I think it was like the moss something. It was a bird this big. It was like the smallest bird that existed in that time and amongst all these predators because everybody was lowkey, a predator. And especially to that little bird. But that was the only bird that walked in two legs, that walked on two feet, like kind of like a lot of birds, right? So it's crazy because that bird had to survive those millions of years, okay. And adapt to the lifestyle and be somebody who survived because they eat those birds all the time, especially these big ass reptiles. But if that bird was ever extinct, a lot of dinosaurs in the Jurassic era, if not all of them would not exist because that bird is a descendant of all of those dinosaurs.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, okay.

[Sebastian Roble]

Because those other reptiles, they don't really exist anymore in that time. So that descendant of the bird that walks on two feet. What else walks on two feet? That's a dinosaur.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, the T. Rex. Yeah, T. Rex, yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

So that little bird evolved into the T. Rex. Yeah, yeah. And so many other. Because a lot of dinosaurs are descendants of birds, not really reptiles. Weird, right?

[Jessica]

It's crazy that we don't really know like surface, like skin level, what they look like. Right. Like we have to go off of their bones. Their bones. But they could have had feathers. They could like, you really don't know. And so with the way that we see them on television is just literally skin stretched over the bones. But like, ultimately we don't know if maybe the little things, maybe they actually had wings, you know, like the T. Rex.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Like, you really.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. You don't. You don't know. I think humanity now has gone to a point where I think they can picture them in a certain way, but obviously it might not be as accurate.

[Josh Ley]

You know, there's people that believe that dinosaurs never existed.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Like, they think it's like it was created. Like it was not real. Even though we have, like, evidence.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. I don't know why.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, it's kind of weird.

[Sebastian Roble]

I always wondered if even like, for

[Josh Ley]

cars there was fossil fuel. Like, it's fossils from dinosaurs.

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, I don't think it's that.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, it is.

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't think.

[Josh Ley]

Yes, it is.

[Sebastian Roble]

No, I think when they say fossil fuels, I think it's more like gases, bro. Look at Earth creates.

[Josh Ley]

No, you're wrong. It's. But it's dinosaur like poop or pee. Promise you look it up. I'm not joking.

[Sebastian Roble]

It might.

[Josh Ley]

Hold on, guys.

[Sebastian Roble]

I'm cooking fossil fuel. I'm cooking coal.

[Jessica]

Oil and natural gas are so named because they are formed from the buried, decomposed remains of prehistoric plants and animals.

[Sebastian Roble]

Don't ever fuck with me. No, I was going to tell you, bro. It's. It's kind of. Kind of like that. Because.

[Josh Ley]

Kind of like that. It is like that.

[Sebastian Roble]

Underneath earth there used to be other animals and shit, Right. But there was also mad plants and mad canyons and mad gases that existed beforehand. So that's when they dig up oils and whatever because just trapped gas and. Yeah, sure. Fossils.

[Josh Ley]

No, that's what it is, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

I know it's. But it's not a hundred percent of it.

[Josh Ley]

Yes, it is.

[Jessica]

Correct. Not actual fossils. While they come from ancient life, the fuels themselves are not typically preserved petrified remains like dinosaur bones. Like, you're not feeling chemical decomposed results of that organic matter.

[Sebastian Roble]

So. Yeah, like you're not fueling up your car with a dinosaur boner, but it's part of it.

[Josh Ley]

It's a lot. It's a lot of it.

[Jessica]

It's the chemical decomposed results of that organic.

[Sebastian Roble]

Exactly, yeah. Technically they wouldn't call it fossil fuel

[Josh Ley]

if it was only like a little smidget of it. Like that's the. That's what the name is.

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't think.

[Josh Ley]

Why are you trying to prove me wrong?

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't think the word fossil kind like it does, because that's where we always hear it from. But I don't think the word fossil or. Or, yeah, fossil is. Is considered more like dinosaur vibe, because it is any. A lot of things can be fossil.

[Josh Ley]

No, it's dinosaurs specific, bro. I swear to you.

[Sebastian Roble]

No, I. I get it. I. I agree, too, but I do believe that preserve remains impressions or trace of once living organized, once living organism. A past geological age, typically over 100 years old. Yes, I get it. But, like, we can be fossilized too.

[Josh Ley]

No.

[Sebastian Roble]

If we're over 100 years old at 10,000 years. 10,000 years old.

[Josh Ley]

No, I don't think. I don't think that's what it's referring

[Jessica]

to, though, bro, because it has to. I think there's very specific circumstances that lead to fossils. Right. That's why we can't find bones everywhere. Yeah, like animal bones. Like, it has to be very specific circumstances that you can create fossil fuels.

[Josh Ley]

What I'm saying is that fossil fuel is referring to dinosaurs. The. That. That's what I'm saying. You're saying it's not.

[Sebastian Roble]

I'm saying it is to a degree. Not 100% sure. Dinosaur.

[Josh Ley]

But that's where they got the name. That's where. That's where it stems from.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, maybe.

[Jessica]

Jess, fossil fuels are not made from dinosaurs. Most petroleum, oil and natural gas formed millions of years before the first dinosaurs, originating from ancient marine organisms like algae, bacteria and plankton that died and were compressed in shallow seas. Coal was formed from ancient plant life, not animals.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's just a. It's just a percentage. It's just fossil is just like, feel like just us humans. We did fossil. Because it sounds ancient, but I don't know. I don't. I'm also not a scientist. No.

[Josh Ley]

Because then it would just be petroleum, which it is. Isn't that different? Fossil fuel and petroleum is not the same.

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't think so. We're not the people to be talking about this.

[Josh Ley]

Put it in your Google machine.

[Sebastian Roble]

Your Google machine. Yeah, yeah. No, but this is good because I bet you anything like y' all back at home, this is new to you too, right? There's no way we're the only ones talking about this. Nobody ever talks about this.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, I remember the first time I heard, and I love talking about it was like, referring to dinosaurs. I was blown away. I was like, there's no.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, yeah, me too.

[Josh Ley]

I. I thought. What you thought like, it was just like fossil, like, I don't know, like, had, like, a whole different meaning. I had no idea that I had to do do with reference of dinosaurs.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, dude, but you, you guys have to watch the, the dinosaur thing. It's really interesting.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, we know, it's really interesting.

[Jessica]

Morgan Freeman.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, Yeah. I think they came out a bunch of seasons, but there's a new season and they really highlight on like, bro, it's just so crazy on. We are not even like 1% of what Earth used to be or was or nothing and we know nothing and

[Jessica]

we're so destructive of like.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yes. And it's just like we are literally a cancer to this earth and it's just crazy. I remember and I would always take this with me and I always remember hearing about this and Joe Rogan had somebody really like, you know, like a Neo, whatever he, he had like a scientist on and he goes, if you look at the United or the, the world now and you see it from a telescope or from high above in the air and you see all these freeways and you see all these like, you see the map and there's freeways and rivers and the way that it looks and you take a picture of that and you just kind of look at like the, the like a drawing of those patterns and you compare that to cancer cells. It's almost identical. So if like somebody who's bigger than Earth looks at earth in that way, they would think it's filled with cancer. And that's us. We built those freeways. We created those man made structures, you know, which are cool, obviously.

[Josh Ley]

Oh, so the man made structures, you're not talking about like the rivers and stuff like that?

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, technically the rivers are been there for millions of years, but there are some rivers that are man made.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And polluted.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And you know, blah, blah. But no, they were just talking about like society and what we've created. Right. Obviously it's good for us because it's just made life so much easier for us.

[Josh Ley]

Well, bro, that, that's like there's so many, I guess like mirroring images of the universe and humans. Right. Like they say like our lungs like correlate to like the roots of like trees and our eyes look like giant galaxies and gas balls. So it's like. That's what I was saying. That was my point earlier. It's like how we're all like. I believe it to, to, to an

[Sebastian Roble]

extent I believe it. And I think that's why life is so beautiful. No, and that's why I also believe that somebody, you know, created it and there is a higher power. God.

[Josh Ley]

Jesus Christ. Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

My question, it might be. Sorry, hold on.

[Josh Ley]

I saw. I saw Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Speaking of him, he was on. I want to say it was Theo Vaughn. And Theo Vaughn asked him about, like, why are our genitals so close to, like, our. Like, our butts? Because that's, like, where we, like, discard of waste, Right? And I've never heard anybody say this or even ask that. I've never thought about it, but he was saying that that's basically like, creator error. Like, it was, like, not done correctly. So that was his way of saying there is no God. Because if ever, you know, everybody has this idea that everything's done so perfectly and everything works so seamlessly, and he's like, no, that was a creator error. So that whole idea, like, we're perfect. It's, like, done perfectly. That. That was kind of his argument, like, we're not.

[Jessica]

So where would it be?

[Josh Ley]

That's what I thought of, too. That's what I thought of.

[Sebastian Roble]

Where would you have your testicles if you had to pick where I would have them, Dude. Where would you have your testicles if you had to pick where to locate them on your body?

[Josh Ley]

And it can't be where they're currently at because, I'm not gonna lie to you, where mine's at.

[Sebastian Roble]

Super happy, of course. But you can't. But you can't pick that, though, bro.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it had to be somewhere, like, discreet.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right? Okay. Yeah, of course. You think, okay, should my question be where would you like them? Or pick a spot for males to have them forever? Like, you're choosing where the testicles will be at from now on.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Actually, where would you want them at? You can't say down.

[Josh Ley]

Right? I couldn't even think. Like, I. Like, no one really nowhere really makes sense. You know what I mean?

[Sebastian Roble]

It has to be somewhere. They can't, like, kick you or punch you or do you accidentally hit them. That'll hurt.

[Josh Ley]

What if it was, like, inside of my throat? So then it would have claws in your throat, and then they would come out when I need to use them.

[Sebastian Roble]

You want balls in your throat? Hell, no. You stay gurgling.

[Josh Ley]

Where would you choose? I mean, what are. The balls are just kind of hanging right here a little bit.

[Sebastian Roble]

I was kind of thinking, like, on your chin.

[Josh Ley]

You know what I mean?

[Sebastian Roble]

Like, if they're on your chin, it's easy because, like, you never really hit your chin.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And, like, sure, it's weird at first, but for another hundred or a million years from now, it's just a normal thing. You got some big balls on your chin, then you get to. And it's cool because, like, you can cover them with all the pubic hairs.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And they'll just look like a beard. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

No, honestly, in my opinion, I think that the way the universe works and humans and like, when you dive deep into like, the laws of the universe.

[Sebastian Roble]

Right.

[Josh Ley]

Like the, the sound of speed, the sound of light, all these things and how everything just is so orchestrated in a certain way. I'm like, dude, this is perfection. You know what I mean? And for somebody to think that that's not. That's like creator error. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, what? Like where. Where are you at? I don't know. It kind of trips me out. Well, I mean, I feel like you're missing the bigger picture.

[Sebastian Roble]

Like how. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Things are.

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't think that's created error, bro. I mean, your P.E. is right there. Your pee pee is connected to your testes. Right. It's your developing. It's your developing parts to create other babies. So why wouldn't they be together?

[Josh Ley]

Exactly.

[Sebastian Roble]

If anything, maybe like, put them on top.

[Josh Ley]

What, your balls?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, but they should be there.

[Josh Ley]

I. I would agree. I would agree. It's not my point. This is Neil Degrasse Tyson.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, but, yeah, I think they should be there. I think they're. They're. They're one. The whole thing. Yeah. Right.

[Josh Ley]

I mean, he's somebody, bro, that. I would absolutely love to come on the podcast, cuz I'm so fascinated by him.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. It's just like.

[Josh Ley]

And even he's. He's not an atheist, by the way. He doesn't label himself an atheist because he doesn't like to be, like, labeled as anything but he doesn't believe in like, God.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. But he's also done his research on a lot. His own research. Yeah. Which is admirable.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

You know, I'm going to ask a really stupid question. Please don't judge me, but was there a God in the Jurassic era? Like, when all the dinosaurs were.

[Josh Ley]

Of course. Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Like, our God existed.

[Josh Ley]

Yes. According to the Bible.

[Sebastian Roble]

Like, and he was a human.

[Josh Ley]

No, that was Jesus who came down

[Sebastian Roble]

to Earth as human.

[Josh Ley]

Yes. As half human. Have God got it?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. So God is this.

[Josh Ley]

So they say, according to the Bible, it's like the. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and they're all one.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay.

[Josh Ley]

The Trinity.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay.

[Josh Ley]

But God was always, always.

[Sebastian Roble]

He's dust.

[Josh Ley]

And then he spirit, the energy. He sent his son, Jesus Christ to come on earth, which is human.

[Sebastian Roble]

The body.

[Josh Ley]

Which was the body. Correct.

[Sebastian Roble]

But he has to be a body too.

[Josh Ley]

No, I don't think so.

[Sebastian Roble]

So he just created a human.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Which was his son.

[Josh Ley]

Correct. Correct. These are deep questions, bro.

[Sebastian Roble]

I know.

[Josh Ley]

No, I don't know.

[Sebastian Roble]

No, I know, but it's crazy, right?

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, no, these are great questions, but.

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, they're stupid questions because I should

[Josh Ley]

know, but I don't think they're stupid at all. I think they're very deep, bro. Like. And honestly, and I say this like nobody really knows.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

This is like what we've read from the Bible, we've pulled from the Bible.

[Jessica]

But it's like that's where faith comes in.

[Josh Ley]

It's kind of a.

[Sebastian Roble]

Faith comes in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Ley]

But like they say like God was like always, like there was no beginning, there was. There's no end. Like so he's just always was.

[Sebastian Roble]

Do you do. Did you ever think that God tried something different before humans like this, this spirit, this, this, this power tried to create something like the dinosaurs and obviously that kind of. It didn't fail. It was dinosaurs roamed the earth longer than humans. And then he tried something else like humans.

[Josh Ley]

Damn. I mean, I don't know because there

[Sebastian Roble]

was a time that there was somewhat of.

[Josh Ley]

So you see somewhat looking down, intention wasn't just humans from the beginning.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Because if God, this all time power, he was always around. He created the dinosaurs or those prehistoric animals. Right. So it would just make sense to me that that's one of the. And that's just what we think. Because I don't know if there was something before that. Yeah, maybe that was the first creation that that power did God.

[Josh Ley]

But mind you, you're only talking about our solar system. Yeah, like the Milky Way galaxy, bro. There's thousands upon galaxies that have other. So like this one world is this miniscule. It's a grain of sand.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay.

[Josh Ley]

Compared to the universe. Okay.

[Sebastian Roble]

So God doesn't just control Earth, it controls other planets.

[Josh Ley]

It controls everything that is anything, anything.

[Sebastian Roble]

So do you think he sent Jesus Christ to somewhere else too?

[Josh Ley]

He potentially. He might be somewhere else right now.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Okay. Damn. Daffodil rules everything then the idea. That's tight.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Damn. He's a ruler of all rulers.

[Josh Ley]

And he lives, from what I understand, he lives outside of the scope of the universe. So he's not in the universe. But he is. He isn't. But he is. Right?

[Sebastian Roble]

So.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, on the outside of it.

[Sebastian Roble]

Of the universe.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Where time doesn't exist that.

[Sebastian Roble]

And hopefully one day we get to go up there, right? Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Damn, that's deep, bro.

[Josh Ley]

No, it's super deep.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Why doesn't humanity ever talk about that then? Like, oh, God just doesn't control over here. He's somewhere else. Or. Or Jesus Christ. Or who knows? Maybe Jesus Christ has a brother that nobody ever talks about that he went to somewhere else in another universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I might be getting too much, but these are all possibilities.

[Josh Ley]

I mean, I'm with you, bro. Like, it's crazy, but do you think that.

[Sebastian Roble]

That our God did the dinosaurs too? Because I always think that.

[Josh Ley]

Yes. Fold. Yes, there's one. There's one God did it all, and

[Sebastian Roble]

then it just didn't work out.

[Josh Ley]

But PC even goes, like, beyond that because he created the universe, right? So he created all these other galaxies. So whatever lives within the universe was created by him. So, yes, that includes the dinosaurs.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's crazy how I believe you, obviously, but it's crazy how it's. God is so much bigger, and humans here on Earth talk about the littlest things about him or like, how he, you know, has a story, or Jesus Christ is over here, when in reality he's probably like, man, that's all you guys think about. I'm so much more than that. You know what I mean? Which.

[Jessica]

With.

[Sebastian Roble]

Which goes to show just the little problems that we think about. Yeah. When in reality, there's so much more to think about.

[Josh Ley]

No, you're right, bro. And. And it's so much more to your point, like, cooler things to think about.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Like, we're tripping on some crazy stuff about, like, you know, because I do believe that a lot of people have these religions. It's almost like I'm this team and I'm that team, and we're gonna battle out and I'm the better team. Right. A lot of. That's a lot of religion. I believe that's what it really is. Yeah, But. And that might be getting a little deep, but I think that's what it really is. Right. So. But, like, they kind of fight with each other and who's right and who's wrong. But in reality, it's just, man, God is just so much more than just these little parties of people believing in certain things. So that's why I like these questions of, like, God is.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, man.

[Sebastian Roble]

The God of gods of the universe and things like that. Like, that's so much bigger.

[Josh Ley]

It's crazy.

[Sebastian Roble]

And what the fuck we're even talking about.

[Josh Ley]

And I Think it's supposed to scare you? I don't think it's supposed to be like. Yeah, it's like when you really sit and think about everything, right to that when you, like, pull yourself out, you're seeing that, like, people are like, they do this trend right now on TikTok. Like, if you have this, you're stuck on this one problem and then you remember, and then they start pulling out of, like, Earth. And then, like, you see all these planets and stuff, right? Like, if you just have that perspective of, like, life.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

You realize, like, it's. Yeah, it's supposed to scare you. Like, man, is massive.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. You think you think about shit like this. Like this to some people might be funny and not scare.

[Josh Ley]

Scare is not the right word, but it should just really, like, be eye opening.

[Sebastian Roble]

Well, yeah, it is eye opening. That's what I was about to say. The more you talk about things like this, the more you actually convince yourself and look at life so much differently. We are Nadian. We are nothing. Our problems mean nothing to nobody. Obviously they do, but there's so much more to worry about. And there's so much more that is bigger than us, bro. That's why I think if you think like that, I think you'll be a lot happier in your life because you just be content with what you have.

[Josh Ley]

I was laughing because I was just thinking about this, like, sketch where somebody's like, how Latinos are portrayed in movies, and you just reminded me of that. We are nothing. Like, you have to believe it in your corazon.

[Sebastian Roble]

We tripping on nothing. Phone. Yeah, but. Yeah, it just. It just trips me out how especially like, nowadays. Well, you know, dinosaurs have been around for so long. So long. And we don't really talk about them like, like, we don't give them the respect that they deserve. If dinosaurs were real, which I believe they're real, but I don't. People don't.

[Josh Ley]

You're. You're saying, like, we only really talk about, like, human life in the sense of, like, how far back it goes. Like, that's it. That's a time.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Because, like, human life has been X amount.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And dinosaur life has been. I can't even stretch my arms that long.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

That's how they ruled this. This Earth.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Maybe I just saw that. That documentary recently, so it, like, inspired me. Yeah. But it's crazy, bro. It's. It's crazy. Let me just Google. How long have humans been around?

[Josh Ley]

Can I guess? I want to say it's like, yeah, 30. No no.

[Sebastian Roble]

Oh my God.

[Josh Ley]

30, 000 years.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay. Humans, homo sapiens, have existed for approximately 300000 years.

[Josh Ley]

Oh my God, I was so 30, 000, 30,000. I mean, it's not a bad guess, 300,000.

[Sebastian Roble]

Because 30,000 years ago, you look back at humanity back in the day, like 30,000 years ago, and that shit's crazy. But no, they're speaking about like 300,000 when like the first Homo sapien, like we still looked much different than what we do now. We were much more. Not as intelligent.

[Josh Ley]

But isn't. Didn't Jesus come on Earth like 2500 years ago?

[Sebastian Roble]

I don't know.

[Josh Ley]

Look that up real quick.

[Sebastian Roble]

Jess is faster.

[Josh Ley]

I want to say it was like when Jesus came.

[Jessica]

Yeah, well he. It's 20, 26 years ago.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Cuz that's when refers to BC is what come.

[Josh Ley]

Like the before Christ.

[Jessica]

Exactly.

[Josh Ley]

So AC. After Christ, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Jessica]

And AD, after death. No, Anno Domini. It's the year of our Lord. It's Latin. I took Latin for many years.

[Sebastian Roble]

Okay, so 20, 26. 20, 26 years ago. Right. God sent Jesus Christ.

[Josh Ley]

That wasn't that long ago.

[Sebastian Roble]

It's not.

[Josh Ley]

That was two weeks.

[Sebastian Roble]

Doesn't that blow your mind?

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, like you definitely two weeks ago.

[Sebastian Roble]

We just missed them.

[Josh Ley]

You just missed them?

[Jessica]

Actually

[Josh Ley]

that's kind of crazy, man.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. And so 20, 20, 26 years ago, God sent Jesus Christ down from the heavens. But then you would ask yourself, like, why didn't he send them way before,

[Josh Ley]

Right, to the dinosaurs?

[Sebastian Roble]

No, like to. I don't know the.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, way before. That's a great question. Especially We've been around for 3,000 years.

[Sebastian Roble]

That's what I want. Like, it's not even that I'm like judging why he didn't do that. I just want to really know why not.

[Josh Ley]

Maybe he did. It just wasn't documented.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Do you also believe like BC, like BC, like, you know, 30,000 BC, 50,000 BC or whatever. Like those crazy, crazy times that nobody ever talks about. Do you believe sometimes that there was actually. Because there are also people. And you know, why wouldn't you believe this? Right? There's no documentation or nothing. There was actual intelligence far greater than what we have now. Yeah, but I don't know, something happened and got wiped out or something like that. It was too long ago to even know, Whatever. Or it were so intelligent that we wiped it out ourselves and we took all the evidence. Do you also believe in that too? Like how the Great Pyramids is just a tip. And like that.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, I do.

[Sebastian Roble]

Like that's crazy too.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, that's crazy. Especially when you look at some like for example, like the way the pyramids were built and you look at some of their, like these ancient artifacts that nobody can explain how they were developed or created and stuff.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Like, so what does that mean? What does that tell you? Yeah, that means that, you know, we were more advanced than we thought and

[Jessica]

it's like in alignment with the constellations

[Josh Ley]

and all of that. It's crazy.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. Check this out.

[Josh Ley]

I know the Bible has a different timeline of like how long humans existed. I think it's closer to what I said, right? 30,000.

[Jessica]

I don't know. Hold on.

[Sebastian Roble]

Look it. Modern humans, Homo sapiens, like the ones I think that started building fire. And 300000 years ago.

[Josh Ley]

Right.

[Sebastian Roble]

Dinosaurs have roamed this roamed Earth for about 165 million years. Damn. That's what I'm saying, bro. Does it not blow your mind? Wow. 300000 years.

[Josh Ley]

Us, which is crazy.

[Sebastian Roble]

Which, okay. Long time ago, first, the first dinosaurs that appeared on Earth 230 million years ago. 230 million years ago. That's crazy, bro. When they were extinct were 66 million years ago. So total time on Earth that they had here on Earth when it was actual Pangea and the continents were this huge. Just one continent. 165 million years. They, they, they run and went to Cabo and like, bro, how does that not blow your mind?

[Josh Ley]

300. So we're, we're at 300, 000 and

[Sebastian Roble]

we only talk about.

[Jessica]

Really?

[Josh Ley]

We haven't even hit 1 million.

[Jessica]

No, we haven't even hit half a million.

[Sebastian Roble]

Imagine hitting another hundred thousand. Where would, where would humanity be in the next hundred thousands of years?

[Josh Ley]

That's insane.

[Sebastian Roble]

165 million, son.

[Josh Ley]

That's crazy.

[Sebastian Roble]

That's what I'm saying. Like, bro, the way that they, they did that documentary, like it's really just, just really eye opening.

[Josh Ley]

Were you gonna. What were you looking up? Just about the Bible reference.

[Jessica]

According to the Bible. Yeah. Based on G genealogies and Genesis, humans have been on earth for approximately six to 8,000 years.

[Josh Ley]

That's nothing.

[Jessica]

The timeline calculates the span from Adam and Eve to, to the present by adding the ages of ancestors.

[Josh Ley]

Recording inspectors, I want to, man, I don't want to disagree with the bio, but that just seems off to me. Like, I feel like it's closer to like 300,000.

[Jessica]

It also kind of discounts like evolution. Right. And the humans, the prehistoric humans that like.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, yeah. And that's why there's a big problem with like that's in the Bible and then that's not. No, it's just interesting. And honestly, there's just always going to be a battle. Yeah, we don't know.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. In the grand scheme of things though, this is like my new. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean, that's what I think it does. Debating on like 6,000 to a hundred thousand, like, what do we. What's really.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it is what it is now. But like these questions, like, it's not that I'm. I'm like wondering why they didn't do it that way or you know, who a certain religion or why they believe in that or like me questioning that. It's just like, I would just like to know, like, why. You know what I mean? Even I would like to know why the dinosaurs. Was it really that big asteroid that came and just wiped everything out? Because that asteroid supposedly hit so fucking hard that it literally just fucking wiped everything out. And what it did was fuck up a mad majority of that content. And it was so fucking crazy that it created this huge gas cloud that covered Earth for. For so many years. So what happens when you cover the skies? Everything turns dark so there's no sun. Do you imagine it's crazy if there's no sun here on Earth for one, like more than a day, like the, like more than like, you know, we do 24 hours changes badly.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. And fast.

[Sebastian Roble]

And fast. So imagine not having it. I forgot how many years it was that there was just like this cloud.

[Josh Ley]

What was the Ice Age.

[Sebastian Roble]

So then the Ice Age started creating and just everything up and only some animals were or, or prehistoric animals were able to.

[Josh Ley]

Well, haven't you seen the movie Ice Age? That's a great documentary right there. That's. That's a good doc right there.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, it's true then. The Ice Age, bro, is crazy, bro.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I'd love to know from listeners, from viewers, like, what are the kinds of existential questions that keep you up at night?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yes, talk about those too, dude. And let's do a whole episode on that and we'll get like, like 10 questions that we believe that. Oh, this one's kind of crazy because there's no way I'm the only dummy

[Josh Ley]

that thinks like this.

[Sebastian Roble]

These are all valid questions, right? But sometimes they sound ridiculous because we don't really hear them.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, No, I don't think they sound ridiculous. I think we're just so consumed in our own lives that you kind of forget that there's, there's so much more outside of that and there's been, you know, so it kind of trips you out. But I think to, to end this episode, I think that's just like a perfect segue into like really just enjoy your life. Do whatever the you want to do. Be good to people.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah.

[Josh Ley]

Love unconditionally and just, and just soak it all in. Because it, it's so fleeting and it's

[Sebastian Roble]

so short for us.

[Josh Ley]

It's so short for us. Like our timeline is short and like just it, it's so much bigger. Like your problems are. It feel like they're your whole world, but life is so much bigger. You know, and if you can have that perspective, it was kind of like just kind of make things a bit easier to handle.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah. And that's why sometimes I feel like, you know, after we pass away, I think we'll be okay. I definitely think that we'll go somewhere.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Honestly, I kind of hope we talked about this on this episode. Like, I hope there was like a Spotify wrapped about our lives. Right. I hope that there's like a, a class we can take where we can just ask all these like hard hitting questions.

[Sebastian Roble]

There will be maybe. Maybe just this life doesn't give you answers. Maybe it's the next life.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

And it'll give you much more too, for sure. You know, maybe this life that we live right now shows us how to be and how to, I guess, prepare us for the next life.

[Jessica]

Bro.

[Josh Ley]

There was a point in human history where people thought that we were the center of the universe, you know, so even as humans we have evolved and learned so much. So like this is. I don't.

[Sebastian Roble]

They even took Pluto out.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah. Like, but even like reincarnation, like you, you think about like maybe we were past humans that only know so much about life and then we, you know, we jump into another, you know, vessel and then we get to learn all this new things about where like life is, you know, it just continues to grow like that. It's a possibility.

[Sebastian Roble]

100.

[Jessica]

You know, also when that happens and you like reincarnate, like, who's to say that it happens according to the timeline you're on. What if somebody from like you.

[Sebastian Roble]

Correct.

[Jessica]

Become someone from the future and then that one comes back and then actually you're tomorrow and then you're. You know what I mean?

[Josh Ley]

Like, yeah.

[Jessica]

Who's to say you follow a linear timeline.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah, I. I don't think so.

[Sebastian Roble]

I know. I don't think.

[Josh Ley]

I don't think you do. But, I mean, who knows?

[Sebastian Roble]

Following those kind of timelines, that's another conversation.

[Josh Ley]

What do you mean?

[Jessica]

Interstellar or what?

[Sebastian Roble]

Yeah, like those interstellar timelines or like, even how alcheasia sounds. Like those Marvel movies where they have par. Parallel universes.

[Josh Ley]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Roble]

Where it's like the same time but just another world. It's crazy, bro.

[Josh Ley]

Insane in the membrane. Insane. Got no brain.

[Sebastian Roble]

But yes, leave us some comments and some. Some questions that keep you up at night, like Jessica said we would about that. I love getting deep. I think it's. I think these types of conversations are very podcasty. They're very, like, sit down, watch while you do your makeup, while you get ready for work, while you do this. It's just, like, very interesting. And they're random, therefore you probably have never heard them.

[Josh Ley]

Well, I just think it just takes you out of your norm. You know what I mean? It just pulls you out where you're like, wow, this is. This is bigger than I ever even possibly imagined. And it is even what we're talking about, bro. We're scraping the surface of, like, how deep and big it is. Pause.

[Sebastian Roble]

I agree. Funny, man. I agree. Anyways, that was the episode. Thank you so much, Jessica.

[Josh Ley]

Come on, man.

[Sebastian Roble]

That's it, man. Enjoy you guys this week. See you next Monday.

[Josh Ley]

We'll see you next Monday. Yeah, we have some cool things planned. Another potential big special guest on the way.

[Sebastian Roble]

Yes.

[Josh Ley]

And, yeah, subscribe, like, comment below. And we love you guys.

[Sebastian Roble]

Love you. Bye.

[Josh Ley]

Love you. Bye.

[Sebastian Roble]

Love you. Bye.

[Josh Ley]

Love you.

[Sebastian Roble]

Bye. Shout out to all dinosaurs. See you.