Podcast Summary: La Zanzara del 10 dicembre 2025

Podcast: La Zanzara (Radio 24)
Hosts: Giuseppe Cruciani, David Parenzo
Date: 10 December 2025

Overview

This episode of La Zanzara delivers its usual mix of sharp-tongued debate, irreverence, and topical provocation. Cruciani and Parenzo spar over the themes of security, justice, populism, personal freedoms, historical revisionism, and sex, while a parade of guests and listeners bring more fuel to the fire. Heated exchanges about political and social current events are interwoven with lighter, comical moments and explicit talk—true to the nature of the show.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Security Debate, Populism, and the "Gioielliere" Case

• Cruciani launches into a furious critique of the government’s handling of security, insisting the center-right must take responsibility for ongoing problems. He champions the cause of a jeweler (Roggero) who received 14 years and 9 months for killing two would-be robbers.
  • “Se c'è insicurezza in Italia dopo tre anni, la responsabilità è del governo di centrodestra… Facciani in modo di toglierlo dalla galera. Costi quel che costi.” (03:20)
• He proposes a mass "civil disobedience" where thousands of volunteers serve a day in jail to protest Roggero's sentence (04:33).
• Parenzo accuses Cruciani of undermining democratic institutions and orchestrating populist campaigns to pressure governments using social media.
  • “Tu pensi di essere Elon Musk della radio?… quando sali su quel palco urlando libertà, libertà, ma di quale libertà?” (08:40)
• Legal vs. ethical debate: Listeners and co-hosts argue over the legitimacy and morality of Roggero's actions, self-defense, and payouts to the families of the deceased criminals.
• Notable quote:
  • “Un gioielliere deve andare in galera. Se la Cassazione conferma che non è legittima difesa, deve andare in galera.” —Briganti (51:00)

2. Immigration, Housing, and the Church’s Role

• The Vatican and Church officials are lambasted for criticizing private housing practices while sitting on vast real estate themselves.
• Cruciani:
  • “Il Vaticano! Ci fa la predica sulle case! Aprissero i loro palazzi!” (05:50)
  • “Libertà, libertà, libertà!” (06:51)
• Parenzo and Cruciani both argue for property owner rights but note the hypocrisy and moral complexity of the situation, referencing statistics on the Church's holdings and taxation.

3. Crime, Policing, and Perception of Justice

• The hosts and callers revisit episodes involving police chases and the public's expectation of “Far West” justice vs. legal due process.
• Cruciani:
  • “Oggi le forze dell’ordine non possono fare un cazzo.” (09:44)
• Listeners call in to detail personal experiences, debating whether tough police actions (e.g., “speronage”—forceful car stops) are justified.
• Anna Rita Briganti stands firm on rule of law and condemns vigilante attitudes, clashing with populist guests.

4. Populism, Media, and Ideological Accusations

• Parenzo accuses Cruciani of siding with national-populists and right-wing figures like Salvini and Trump, trying to create a rival “system.”
• The conversation features tongue-in-cheek jabs about media manipulation, Russian TV, and the echo chambers of current media debate.

5. Historical Revisionism: Interview with Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini

• Caio Mussolini (descendant of Benito Mussolini) appears to discuss his book "Mussolini e il fascismo, l'impero, gli ebrei e la guerra." The exchange is combative.
• Caio proposes a less damning historical take on Mussolini’s relations with Jews, his motivations for race laws, and the supposed "lesser evil" of Italian colonialism.
• Parenzo is openly antagonistic, objecting to revisionism and drawing Holocaust analogies.
• Contentious back-and-forth erupts over:
  • The racial laws being “all’acqua di rose” (63:31)
  • The degree of Italian complicity in Nazi crimes (64:03)
  • Whether being a "fascist" is a punishable or simply a chronologically outdated label in Italy (74:17)
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Le leggi razziali furono all’acqua di rose.” —Caio Mussolini (63:31)
  • “Il fascismo nasce come reazione alla violenza rossa, al biennio rosso...” —Caio Mussolini (61:01)
  • “Ma io mi vergognerei da morire.” —Parenzo on the Mussolini surname (62:14)

6. Explicit & Irreverent Listener Interventions

• Throughout the show, listeners call in with provocations:
  • Boasts about criminal records (“sono il pregiudicato… spaccio e rissa,” 30:30)
  • Vulgar insults exchanged with hosts, especially over self-defense and political issues.
  • Ad hominem attacks, comic swearing, and self-deprecation keep the tension high—a signature of the program.

7. Sex, Gender, and the Science of Pleasure (with Dr. Leni the Sexologist)

• Dr. Leni contributes a scientific (and playful) commentary on female sexuality, covering:
  • The notion of the “vagina insensibile”—an under-discussed condition affecting up to 20% of women (79:31).
  • The anatomy and physiology of female orgasm: importance of clitoral erection, the role of the “muscolo elevatore dell’ano,” and the irrelevance of penis length vs. girth (88:00).
  • The cultural differences in discussing these themes and the need for broader sexual education.
• Notable Moments:
  • Dr. Leni displays a golden clitoris pendant, sparking comic debate:
    “Un clitoride d’oro sul bavero?” —Parenzo (84:14)
  • Practical advice for men and women to better understand and communicate about pleasure (81:43).
  • “La penetrazione non basta… il canale vaginale non è un luogo irrorato di terminazioni nervose riconducibili al piacere sessuale.” —Dr. Leni (82:27)

8. Recurring Satirical and Comic Elements

• The episode features riffs on classic Italian radio show bits: exchanges about dirty underwear (20:35), office etiquette, song parodies, and lighthearted bickering about the hosts’ supposed sexual prowess (24:35).
• Running gags include the repeated “La persona nuova?” exchange (31:53–32:10), lampooning self-improvement clichés.
• Listener quote:
  • “Guarda, Lucio, non è una giustificazione perché il 90% degli italiani sono degli emeriti teste di cazzo.” —Caller (52:11)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Security and Populism:
  • “Sono pronto a fare un giorno di galera insieme ad altre 5.000 persone...” —Cruciani (04:33)
  • “Tu pensi di essere Elon Musk della radio?” —Parenzo (08:40)
• On Hypocrisy in Housing:
  • “Che il Vaticano ci faccia la predica sulle case! Aprissero i loro palazzi!” —Cruciani (05:50)
• Historical Revisionism:
  • “Le leggi razziali furono all’acqua di rose.” —Caio Mussolini (63:31)
• Sexual Education:
  • “La penetrazione non basta... il canale vaginale non è un luogo irrorato di terminazioni nervose riconducibili al piacere sessuale.” —Dr. Leni (82:27)
• Comic Element:
  • “La persona nuova? La persona nuova?” —Repeated by multiple callers and hosts (31:48–32:10)
  • “Sei uno sfregio alla gente che davvero lavora!” —Parenzo, to “Fatturage” (44:57)

Segment Timeline

• [00:13–03:14] Listener confrontations, irreverent banter, and dismissal of “Amarena” controversy.
• [03:20–04:46] Security debate, Roggero case, Cruciani advocates for protest action.
• [05:39–07:17] Populism, media campaigns, accusation of democracy “hacking.”
• [08:00–10:30] Debate over public safety, law enforcement powerlessness, and police chases.
• [13:54–16:49] Housing, Church hypocrisy, and immigration (Salvini drops in).
• [17:14–18:51] Rape, ethnicity in reporting crime, reactions to violence.
• [24:35–25:32] Parenzo and Cruciani trade barbs about prostitution and sexual confidence.
• [30:15–32:10] Listener with a criminal past; comic repetition of “la persona nuova.”
• [34:24–35:18] Cruciani’s alliance with Salvini; recurring self-defense debate.
• [58:18–62:00] Interview: Caio G.C. Mussolini on fascism, Jews, and revisionist history.
• [78:04–91:53] Sex and science with Dr. Leni; practical advice, anatomy lesson, comic crosstalk.

Conclusion

True to its reputation, this episode of La Zanzara is a carousel of hard-hitting political debate, unapologetic populism, crowd-baiting listener calls, and explicit humor. Whether dissecting the judicial system, Italian historical trauma, or the anatomy of pleasure, Cruciani and Parenzo guarantee a tone that’s both gleefully unfiltered and deeply entertaining—leaving no controversial stone unturned.