Podcast Summary: La Zanzara del 18 dicembre 2025
Podcast: La Zanzara — Radio 24
Hosts: Giuseppe Cruciani, David Parenzo
Date: December 18, 2025
Overview
This episode of La Zanzara stays faithful to its reputation as an unfiltered, unruly arena for current affairs. Cruciani and Parenzo, along with recurring contributors, listeners' calls, and provocative guests, dive into heated debates on illegal occupations, self-defense laws, socials clashing over ideologies, the "patriarchy" in Italian cooking, the right to housing, immigration, showy wealth, and even the legitimacy of sex work. The entire broadcast is punctuated by sharp exchanges, political incorrectness, hilarious moments, and a relentless challenge to mainstream and moral taboos.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Nutria Affair: Eating, Hunting, and Legality
- Segment: [01:10–03:00]
- Parenzo interrogates Giuseppe Ghidelli about the legal hunting and culinary use of nutria, leading to humorous confusion on whether nutria are rats.
- Quote:
- Joe Urso: "E' un topo, Davide." [01:50]
- Giuseppe Ghidelli: "Assolutamente legalmente con una trappola... deve essere vivo." [01:17]
- Satirical barbs about eating "rat cuisine" spark general hilarity and trigger classic La Zanzara banter.
2. Sgombero dei Centri Sociali e Legalità
Focus on the Askatasuna Eviction in Turin
- Segment: [03:12–12:54]
- Parenzo rejoices over the police's intervention at Askatasuna, criticizing the political left for defending illegal occupations while distinguishing between right (Casa Pound) and left squats.
- Cruciani reinforces a hardline: "Tutti gli edifici pubblici occupati vanno sgomberati immediatamente." [05:48]
- The panel debates the necessity and handling of police evictions, confronting "double standards" and the narrative around 'centri sociali' as hives of criminality.
- Notable Quotes:
- David Parenzo: "Lo Stato che piace a me... quando fa il suo dovere, beh, io ho un senso di godimento." [03:34]
- Alessandra Briganti: "Io sono di sinistra ma non posso difendere l’illegalità, mi dispiace." [12:27]
3. Patriarchy in Italian Cuisine
- Segment: [06:39–07:29]
- Parenzo takes aim at web-famous feminists for labeling Italian food "patriarchal."
- Parenzo: "La cucina italiana patriarcale. Andate a fare in culo." [07:15]
- Mockery of progressive critiques on food, calling some arguments "supercazzole incomprensibili."
4. Parental Rights, Social Services, and “Dignity”
- Segment: [07:40–09:31]
- The team discusses cases where children are removed from families for hygiene issues, questioning what constitutes dignitous living, and what is really required by law.
- Briganti: “I bambini hanno diritto a vivere in un contesto civile... è nelle leggi di un paese civile.” [08:55]
5. Right to Housing & Social Welfare
- Segment: [18:19–20:13]
- A sharp row between Barbara and Collovati about whether "diritto all'abitare" (right to housing) exists.
- Collovati: “Il diritto ad abitare se lo deve procurare da solo, non è che glielo dà lo Stato.” [19:00]
- Parenzo and Cruciani argue for and against state protection versus individual self-reliance.
6. Magistratura, Salvini, and Anti-Establishment Rhetoric
- Segment: [29:01–33:11]
- Stitching criticism of Italy’s judiciary with references to Salvini, Trump, and Orbán — accusations that Cruciani is a "megafono" for anti-democratic populism.
- Quote:
- Barbara: “Anche Barbara farebbe un giorno di carcere” (for a vigilante jeweler). [33:28]
- Giuseppe Cruciani: “Ti attacco e ti dico che sei antidemocratico e lo confermo.” [30:02]
- A raucous round of the cast calling each other "eversivo!" (subversive) for alleged anti-system attitudes. [21:01–21:17+]
7. Legittima Difesa: The Mario Roggero Case
- Segment: [33:16–55:24]
- A focal, emotionally charged debate over the jeweler Mario Roggero, imprisoned for killing two burglars after repeated robberies.
- Listeners and hosts split: some call for his statue, others denounce vigilantism.
- Quotable moments:
- Parenzo: “Maglietta ‘Io sto con Mario Roggero’... Lo voglio libero quest’uomo!” [35:27, 35:47]
- Briganti: “Il caso di Rogero non rientra nella legittima difesa, rientra nell'esecuzione.” [34:50]
- Ghidelli: “Questo dovrebbe avere una statua. Io sono convinto che il 97%...bisogna far votare chi produce, non i fancazzisti.” [49:09]
- Barbara: “La pena di morte non esiste in Italia, se ne faccia una ragione.” [50:04]
- Repeated references to legality, the spirit versus the letter of the law, and deep polarization between retribution and rehabilitation.
8. "Pena di morte" e Leggi Speciali
- Segment: [59:38–61:17]
- Ghidelli provocatively calls for reintroducing the death penalty and martial law.
- Ghidelli: “Pena di morte subito... almeno 5 anni di leggi marziali.” [59:58, 61:09]
- Condemned as unconstitutional and dangerous by other guests.
9. Gender Roles in Work and Social Stereotypes
- Segments: [24:30–25:51], [38:17–39:01]
- Listeners and panelists spar over gendered labor, from cleaning jobs to construction or plumbing, emphasizing physical capability and cultural expectations.
- Ghidelli: “Imbianchino donna, muratore donna... non ce la possono far fare certi lavori.” [38:17]
10. Ostentazione della Ricchezza & Tasse
- Segment: [77:29–87:52]
- Joe Urso struts as the almost-parodic anti-tax, anti-“fannulloni”, pro-ostentation figure; he and Sumayla Tiwara (Mali-born activist) clash over redistribution, luxury, and responsibility.
- Urso: “Se voglio girare con un orologio da 30mila euro non vedo il problema.” [80:46]
- Tiwara: “Hai delle responsabilità verso questo Stato... chi ha di più dovrebbe pagare di più.” [80:19]
11. Immigrazione e Criminalità
- Segment: [84:21–87:43]
- Urso: classic anti-immigrant arguments (“la maggior parte delle carceri... impestate da stranieri clandestini”), countered by facts and sarcastic rebuttals from the rest.
- Language and accent also become targets for xenophobic jabs, with Tiwara responding assertively.
- Tiwara (in bambarà): “Urso è un coglione.” [84:00]
12. Sex Work, Visibility, and Dignity
- Segment: [89:33–102:01]
- The panel hosts Taylor Bee (escort, criminology student) and Caterina Collovati, diving into what constitutes dignity, empowerment, and societal judgment regarding prostitution.
- Taylor Bee: “Io sono molto orgogliosa perché la femmina è troia. Dentro e fuori... Nessun uomo può fare gara con me.” [90:30, 96:26]
- Collovati: “Lei resta una troia, mi scusi. Lei resta una troia a pagamento.” [98:42]
- Conversation touches on self-image, body modification, agency, and the personal meaning of sex, power, and career.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- David Parenzo: “Quando lo Stato… fa il suo dovere… io ho un senso di godimento.” [03:34]
- Giuseppe Cruciani: “Tutti gli edifici pubblici vanno sgomberati immediatamente, dopo un secondo dalla loro occupazione.” [05:48]
- Ghidelli: "Bisogna introdurre le leggi marziali per almeno cinque anni." [61:09]
- Taylor Bee: “Quando sto sopra l'uomo, io sento tremare le sue gambe… mi sento completamente padrona… come fossi il diavolo.” [97:42]
- Joe Urso: “Io non è che sono un padre Pio che devo aiutarti, io lavoro, mi sbatto e se voglio girare con un orologio da 30 mila euro non vedo qual è il problema.” [80:46]
- The “eversivo!” chorus — the cast accusing each other of being subversive in rapid succession [21:01–21:17+].
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Nutria Discussion: 01:10–03:00
- Askatasuna Sgombero & Left/Right Occupations: 03:12–12:54
- Italian Cuisine & Patriarchy: 06:39–07:29
- Parental Rights & Child Welfare: 07:40–09:31
- Right to Housing: 18:19–20:13
- Magistratura, Salvini, Political Rhetoric: 29:01–33:11
- Roggero Case (Legittima Difesa): 33:16–55:24
- Death Penalty & Martial Law: 59:38–61:17
- Gender & Work: 24:30–25:51, 38:17–39:01
- Wealth Ostentation & Taxes: 77:29–87:52
- Immigration & Crime: 84:21–87:43
- Sex Work Debate: 89:33–102:01
Style and Tone
La Zanzara delivers exactly what listeners expect: sarcasm, provocations, and explicit, rowdy exchanges freed from political correctness and taboos. The language is raw, direct, and sometimes explicit—debates oscillate between righteous slogans, caustic humor, and personal insults, echoing the chaotic, vivid Italian radio talk tradition.
For anyone who missed this explosive episode, the above summary covers the rich, unpredictable tapestry of arguments, jests, and social commentary that unfolded. From the legality of shooting rodents to the ethics of criminal justice and the worth of a paid orgasm, no sacred cow is left unprodded in the "arena where clarity is king".