Podcast Summary: La Zanzara – November 26, 2025

Podcast: La Zanzara
Hosts: Giuseppe Cruciani & David Parenzo
Guests: Matteo Salvini, Jacopo Coghe, Caterina Collovati, Erika Gentile, Ivan Taddei, Marrazzo, others
Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Overview

This episode exemplifies La Zanzara’s style: hard-hitting, politically incorrect, and unfiltered debate on current social and political issues. Central topics include the controversial “consent law,” the case of the “family in the woods,” the debate on same-sex marriage and parental rights, generational clashes over education and sexuality, sex work and OnlyFans, and the polemical opening of a hyper-realistic sex doll shop. The episode features a heated and often provocative confrontation between hosts, guests, and listeners, laced with satire, insults, digressions, but also deep social critique.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Law on Sexual Consent (“La Legge del Consenso”)

• Context: Recently debated law aiming to require explicit and ongoing (minuto per minuto) consent during sexual activities. Its progression in the Senate has stalled, sparking heated debate.
• Cruciani’s stance: Vehemently opposed, warning of "tribunals clogged by false reports" and reversal of the burden of proof onto men.

  "Io non so se è per colpa o per merito mio, se c'è lo zampino mio e di Porro... In ogni caso avanti tutta, avanti tutta. [...] Il consenso minuto per minuto è l'onere della prova sugli uomini." (Giuseppe Cruciani, [02:53])

• Salvini: Shares Cruciani’s opposition, stressing the risk of witch hunts and a climate of mutual suspicion between genders.

  "L’importante è farla bene, che non diventi un’arma per chi si vuole vendicare dopo un litigio..." (Matteo Salvini, [36:40])

• Guest perspectives: Some, like Jacopo Coghe and a caller from Alessandria, agree with the criticism, while others (Collovati, Marrazzo, Parenzo) stress the need for stronger legal tools to protect women.
• Listeners: The law is polarizing; some blame Cruciani and right-wing media for its blockage.

Notable Quotes:

• “Ma io la vorrei abbracciare fortissimo, questo qua, che si è attraversato come la madre.” (Cruciani, in satirical tone about a different legal case, [07:14])
• “Questa legge alimenta un clima di odio tra uomo e donna.” (Salvini, [42:22])

2. The "Family in the Woods" Case (La Famiglia del Bosco)

• Context: Ongoing case about a foreign family living off-grid in Abruzzo, whose children were removed by social services due to concerns over hygiene, socialization, and non-vaccination.
• Cruciani’s line: Champions the family's right to alternative lifestyles as long as there’s no direct, proven danger to their children.

  “Una famiglia che vive in modo alternativo, ha tutto il diritto, se non mette in pericolo la vita… di vivere come cazzo vuole.” ([02:53])

• Parenzo and Collovati: More in favor of social services intervention, arguing state has a duty to protect children’s rights and health.
• Salvini (interview): Frames the intervention as “sconvolgente” and "pericoloso come precedente." Emphasizes parental autonomy and denounces state overreach.

  “Dal genitore sono inorridito... ho faticato a dormire sapendo che… adesso da 7-8 notti sono in una casa famiglia…” ([23:10])

• Collovati: Strongly supports intervention:

  "Questi figli secondo me andavano tolti da molto prima..." ([60:29])

• Coghe: Claims removal is "spropositata," unless real and severe risk exists ([45:52], [46:05]).

Notable Quotes:

• “Per chi non si vaccina vanno tolti i figli e vanno tolti a chi non si vaccina.” (Collovati, [60:56])
• “Ma quanta gente è cresciuta senza il riscaldamento?” (Cruciani, [62:48])
• “Tu vuoi relegare ai carcerati le bambole...” (Cruciani, on another topic, satirical, [91:29])

3. Same-Sex Marriage & EU Court Decision

• Context: European Court ruling: same-sex marriages performed abroad must be recognized by all EU countries.
• Cruciani: In favor of marriage equality, but rejects “impositions from above.”

  “Io sono a favore del matrimonio gay, però non per un’imposizione dall’alto…” ([56:54])

• Coghe: Asserts the ruling only requires recognition for free movement; Italian civil unions suffice—opposed to full marriage equality ([56:56]).
• Marrazzo: Argues civil rights must be harmonized in the EU, supports full recognition for same-sex families ([58:46]).

Notable Quotes:

• “Perché secondo te due uomini e due donne non fanno famiglia, questo è il punto.” (Cruciani, [58:34])
• “No, due uomini e due donne fanno famiglia e infatti adesso, grazie a questa sentenza della Corte Europea...” (Marrazzo, [58:46])

4. Sexuality, Education, and Parental Rights

• Controversy: Debate over introducing sexual and affective education at very early ages (as proposed by the mayor of Genova), and who decides (schools, associations, or parents).
• Coghe: Wants parental rights held above external “ideology”, against early LGBT education.

  “I genitori insegnano i loro figli sui temi di affettività e sessualità...” ([50:02])

• Marrazzo and Collovati: Argue that tolerance and respect must be taught in schools to fight discrimination.

  “Il 75% degli italiani sono contrari all’educazione, all’affettività e al sessuale. Vogliono consenso informale.” (Coghe, [53:44])

• Parenzo & Cruciani: Satirize extremes of both positions, question how and when these issues should be addressed.

5. OnlyFans, Porn, and Sex Work: Erika Gentile [68:09–78:33]

• Guest: Erika Gentile, 41, former tourist worker, now successful on OnlyFans (“SOS Mami”). Brings adult son to the studio.
• Format: She makes content often with 18-19-year-olds, says she selects carefully; claims it's about experience, not "prostitution".
• Cruciani: Intrigued, slightly skeptical about motivations (“l’ho fatto perché mi piaceva”, [69:08]).
• Collovati: Outraged — calls the behavior “malata”, “una malata che provoca dei ragazzini...” ([74:13]).
• Gentile: Defends choices as free, adult, and consensual; says she is unconcerned by social condemnation.

Notable Quotes:

• “Io mi sono preoccupata della sua istruzione, della sua educazione fino a 18 anni…” (Gentile, [77:05])
• “Libertà, libertà, libertà!” (Gentile, [79:19])

6. Sex Dolls & the Business of Solitude: Ivan Taddei [79:49–93:06]

• Guest: Ivan Taddei, entrepreneur, describes his hyper-realistic sex dolls showroom in Modena, facing protests from feminist associations and the PD.
• Taddei: Explains the dolls include AI features, aim to combat loneliness, and have applications for people with disabilities or social phobias.

  “Hanno uno scheletro, le articolazioni sono identiche a quelle dell’essere umano, sono aggregate da intelligenza artificiale di natura sessuale e non.” ([84:19])

• Collovati: Considers the business offensive, degrading to women—“Umiliazione della donna”, “manichini per maniaci.”
• Cruciani: Ambivalent, jokes that at least use of the dolls might reduce catcalling or other anti-social behavior.
• Parenzo: Critiques the idea that it's a real business—calls Taddei a "furbetto".
• Debate: Is this social innovation, exploitation, or just a symptom of a hyper-sexualized society?

Notable Quotes:

• "Cioè è un invito allo stupro una cosa del genere?" (Cruciani, [85:32])
• “Secondo te è un ragionamento intelligente... prendo 4.000 euro per tenermi una siliconata in casa finta?” (Collovati, [89:51])

Memorable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---------------|---------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:53 | Cruciani | “Una famiglia che vive in modo alternativo, ha tutto il diritto… di vivere come cazzo vuole.” | | 23:10 | Salvini | “Da genitore sono inorridito... ho faticato a dormire sapendo che… adesso da 7-8 notti sono in una casa famiglia…” | | 36:40 | Salvini | "L’importante è che non diventi un’arma per chi si vuole vendicare dopo un litigio..." | | 42:22 | Salvini | “Questa legge alimenta un clima di odio” | | 53:44 | Jacopo Coghe | “Il 75% degli italiani sono contrari all’educazione, all’affettività e al sessuale. Vogliono consenso informale.” | | 58:46 | Marrazzo | “No, due uomini e due donne fanno famiglia e infatti… grazie a questa sentenza della Corte Europea…” | | 60:29 | Caterina Collovati | “Questi figli secondo me andavano tolti da molto prima…” | | 74:13 | Caterina Collovati | “Mi fa orrore perché vuol dire che è una malata, è una donna che... provoca dei ragazzini che avrebbero bisogno…” | | 84:19 | Ivan Taddei | “Hanno uno scheletro, le articolazioni sono identiche a quelle dell’essere umano, sono aggregate da intelligenza artificiale…” | | 89:51 | Caterina Collovati | “Secondo te è un ragionamento intelligente... prendo 4.000 euro... per tenermi una siliconata in casa finta?” | | 93:06 | Cruciani | “Chi sente la zanzara vuole sbellicarsi… Quando sono al castello di Carisio voglio ridere, ridere.” |

Segment Timeline

• [00:15–02:53] – Opening shock: splash on sexuality, language, first mentions of the law on consent, and social interventions.
• [02:53–11:21] – Heated debate: Law on consent, family rights, Europe and gay marriage, same-sex issues.
• [11:21–22:55] – Listener interactions, lead-up to Salvini’s exclusive interview.
• [22:55–39:08] – Salvini interview: “famiglia del bosco”, Rom, interventions, “consent law”, criminal law, welfare.
• [39:08–56:54] – Sexual education in school, LGBT rights, socialization, more on “famiglia del bosco”, parental authority.
• [56:54–68:09] – Marriage equality: Court decisions, EU, what counts as family.
• [68:09–79:38] – OnlyFans: Erika Gentile with her son, sex work, generational shifts, moral panics.
• [79:38–93:06] – Sex dolls and business: Ivan Taddei, feminist backlash, loneliness, AI.

Closing Notes

As always, “La Zanzara” manages to blend irreverence, controversy, and dark comedy with serious reflections on Italian society. The conversations are raw, chaotic, sometimes vulgar, but tap into the heart of Italy’s ongoing culture wars, pitting tradition against progress, authority against individual freedom, and highlighting the anxieties and absurdities of contemporary life.

Listeners who appreciate open debate, uncensored language, and a lens into Italy’s tempestuous political culture will find this episode especially emblematic.