Episode 650: Alex Murdaugh Part III - Under The Capri Sun

Summary

Last Podcast on the Left

Episode 650: Alex Murdaugh Part III – Under the Capri Sun

Release Date: January 30, 2026
Hosts: Marcus Parks, Henry Zebrowski, Edwin Arroyave

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Episode Overview

The conclusion of the Last Podcast on the Left’s deep dive into the spectacular downfall of South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh, focusing on the events leading up to the infamous double murder of his wife Maggie and son Paul, the subsequent investigation and trial, and the broader collapse of the Murdaugh dynasty. The hosts blend detailed research, dark humor, and Southern-fried irreverence, exposing the intersection of wealth, power, addiction, and violence.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

I. Recap of the Murdaugh Family Catastrophe

• Series finale overview: The unraveling of the Murdaugh legacy and Alex’s descent into murder and disgrace.
• Paul Murdaugh’s involvement in Mallory Beach’s death; Alex’s immediate interference to protect him.
• Widespread corruption and the Murdaughs' habitual use of their connections and intimidation to skirt justice.

II. The Boat Crash Fallout & Arrival of Mark Tinsley

• Attorney Mark Tinsley takes on the Beach family's wrongful death suit against the Murdaughs (08:11).
  • “...the moment that Tinsley truly said, ‘fuck this guy’... was when Alec boxed Tinsley out of a million dollar fee. On a big case, you don't fuck with a lawyer's money.” — Edwin Arroyave (08:11)
• Tinsley’s relentless pursuit: pressing for full financial disclosure from Alec despite stonewalling and obfuscation by the Murdaughs (18:00).
• The use and abuse of solicitor’s badges: Alec impersonating law enforcement to influence crash investigations and avoid DUIs (06:42).

III. Legal Maneuvers, Delays, and The COVID Effect

• The Murdochs exploit their power to ensure Paul receives special treatment after the crash (16:14).
  • “Paul’s mugshot was taken at his hearing in the hallway outside of the courtroom in his street clothes. Never went through processing, never spent a day, never spent an hour uncomfortable.” — Edwin Arroyave (16:14)
• Senator Dick Harpootlian brought in for Paul’s defense—with a $500k retainer, demonstrating Murdaugh’s resources (15:23).
• COVID-19 conveniently delays proceedings, aiding the family’s evasion of accountability (16:58).

IV. Crumbling Foundations: Murdoch Finances and Family Fallout

• Mounting pressure: Tinsley's motions, PMPED (Murdaugh’s law firm) scrutiny, Maggie’s plans for divorce, rumors of Alec’s infidelity and drug abuse (28:22; 31:03).
• Alex’s oxycontin addiction and elaborate financial crimes—stealing millions from clients, laundering money with the help of banker Russell Lafitte and cousin “Fast Eddie” (19:11; 20:18).
• Maggie moves out and quietly consults a divorce lawyer—a Rubicon in the Murdoch family, as “Murdochs don’t divorce, they murder.” — Edwin Arroyave (29:56)

V. Motivation and Lead-up to the Murders

• Family pressure and impending financial exposure catalyze Alec’s decision (30:42).
• Theory: The murders aimed to avoid financial disclosure in the divorce/wrongful death suit, eliminate a liability (Paul), and generate sympathy (31:01–33:24).
  • “A divorce would trigger a full audit of his finances, an audit that he could never get away from.” — Edwin Arroyave (31:03)
• The murder plan: Call Maggie and Paul home under the pretext of seeing Alec’s dying father; arrange for Buster (the older son) to be elsewhere (44:21).

VI. The Night of the Murders (June 7, 2021)

• Detailed rundown of the evening:
  • Capri Sun as a murder-day comfort food (38:26).
  • Paul and Alec ride ATVs, shoot videos (47:17).
  • Gathering at dog kennels; Paul’s last text at 8:48pm (49:57).
  • Alec’s double kill using a shotgun and AR15—staged to mimic a two-assailant scenario (53:08; 54:11).
    • “He had two guns. What single person uses two guns at the same crime scene?” — Edwin Arroyave (54:11)
  • Bizarre details: Paul’s “Wham, Bam, Thank You Ma’am” shirt at his death (53:07).
• Alec swiftly enacts his alibi—visiting his mother, calling multiple associates (55:50–56:44).
• Posts murder: Cleaning himself, disposing evidence (notably, the murder weapons are never found) (57:36; 57:39).

VII. The Immediate Aftermath and Incriminating Behavior

• Alec’s 911 call: Oscar-worthy (and suspicious) performance (59:23).
  • “That’s really all you need to hear. Child, badly... It is so hard, my wife. My child.” — Henry Zebrowski & Marcus Parks parody (59:23–59:44)
• At the scene: Alec pushes alternate suspects, claims Paul had many enemies and received threats (60:48).
• Investigators’ eye for detail: note Alec’s clean appearance, conflicting stories about handling evidence, lack of physical evidence for an ambush (63:17–64:48).
• “He was so clean, they went on to notice that he smelled like fresh laundry.” — Marcus Parks (64:05)

VIII. The Investigation: Evidence Mounts

• The “Capri Sun” left behind becomes an accidental but incriminating detail (72:20).
• Breakthrough: Paul’s phone unlocked (using his birthday as the passcode), revealing a video at the kennels minutes before the murders—Alec’s voice captured, shattering his alibi (99:39; 101:10).
  • “This proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alec Murdoch was indeed at the scene after he said over and over again that he wasn't.” — Edwin Arroyave (101:10)
• Blood spatter found on Alec’s shirt confirms proximity during murders (101:43).
• Investigators focus only on Alec; community instantly suspects him; the wrongful death suit is delayed due to “sympathy” from the court (77:53).

IX. Collapse of the Murdaugh Empire

• PMPED uncovers and exposes Alec’s massive financial crimes; the firm ultimately dissolves and reforms without the Murdaugh name (94:37).
• Alec arrested for financial crimes, then for the murders; he adapts bizarrely well to jail life, even bragging about mastering barter trades (97:26).
• Investigators connect more dots: money laundering through “Fast Eddie”; embezzlement; settlement theft from the family of their dead housekeeper, Gloria Satterfield (20:18; 94:24).

X. The Murder Trial and Alec’s Downfall

• Prosecution (led by Creighton Waters) meticulously builds its case: cell data, kennel video, blood evidence, and financial motive all laid bare (105:41).
• Alec’s fatal mistake: testifying in his own defense, invoking the infamous phrase, “Oh, what a tangled web we weave.” (107:27)
• Harpootlian’s defense crumbles—resorting to emotional appeals. The defense’s “kooky” expert witness claims the shooter must have been “no taller than 5’2”” (109:18).
• Jury quickly returns a guilty verdict; even one skeptical juror is convinced after learning how common familial murder is (111:02).
• Alec sentenced to life in prison; legacy destroyed.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You don't fuck with a lawyer's money.” — Edwin Arroyave (08:11)
• “Paul’s mugshot was taken in the hallway outside the courtroom, never spent a day uncomfortable.” — Edwin Arroyave (16:14)
• “A divorce would trigger a full audit of his finances, an audit that he could never get away from.” — Edwin Arroyave (31:03)
• “He smelled like fresh laundry.” — Marcus Parks (64:05)
• “This proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alec Murdoch was indeed at the scene...” — Edwin Arroyave (101:10)
• “Oh, what a tangled web we weave.” — Alec (quoting himself on the stand) (107:24)
• “He tried throwing too many ingredients into the soup... he just, he threw too much out there.” — Marcus Parks (55:44)
• “How dumb’s my son?” — Marcus Parks, regarding the phone passcode (99:39)
• “People say I got the eyes of a cockatiel... lifeless, lifeless eyes of a plush doll covered in blood.” — Marcus Parks (104:36)
• “Folksiness has no place in a murder trial.” — Edwin Arroyave (108:02)
• “Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma’am is as tasteless and bloody as the shirt that Paul Murdoch was wearing the night Alec killed him.” — Edwin Arroyave (121:43)
• “In America, men who believe they are kings always get what's coming sooner or later.” — Edwin Arroyave (121:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mallory Beach Crash Recap: 04:06
• Tinsley Takes the Civil Suit: 07:55–08:31
• Solicitor’s Badge Shenanigans: 06:21–06:42
• Paul’s Mugshot/Legal Favors: 16:14
• The COVID Delay: 16:58
• Mark Tinsley's Pursuit of Financial Disclosure: 18:00
• Maggie’s Divorce Preparations: 29:56–31:03
• Murder Motivation Theories: 30:42–33:24
• Bizarre Murder Day Details: 38:26–39:02
• The Murders Recounted: 49:57–55:05
• Alec’s Alibi Moves: 55:50–56:44
• The Incriminating Capri Sun: 72:20
• Paul's Phone Passcode Breakthrough: 99:39–101:10
• Trial & “Tangled Web” Moment: 107:24–108:02
• Verdict and Sentencing: 111:46
• Final Thoughts on the Murdoch Legacy: 121:44

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Tone and Style

The hosts maintain their signature irreverent, darkly comedic tone throughout, slipping seamlessly between in-depth legal analysis and biting social commentary. They frequently parody Southern affectations and the Murdaughs’ country-club attempts at “folksiness,” making pointed remarks about wealth, privilege, and the uniquely corrupt culture that enabled such a monstrous crime spree.

Henry, Marcus, and Edwin’s banter underscores how absurd the entire saga was—recurring in-jokes about Capri Suns, nicknames (“PowPow” “Roro” “Grandma Snappy”), and the universally ridiculed “Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma’am” shirt all serve as comedic counters to the grimness of double homicide and systemic corruption.

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Conclusion

Alex Murdaugh Part III – Under the Capri Sun offers a cutting, thorough examination of the Murdaugh murders, exposing not only the evidence that destroyed Alex’s alibi and doomed his fate but also the rotten systems that shielded his family’s misdeeds for generations. With the trial over, the family’s legacy lies in ruins, the dynasty finished, and the podcast hosts can finally close the book on one of America’s most jaw-dropping true crime sagas.

For further context:

• See previous episodes for the full case background, including the deaths of Mallory Beach, Gloria Satterfield, and Stephen Smith.
• The podcast’s entire Murdaugh series takes you from the first whiff of scandal to the echoing gavel against Alex’s future.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Marcus Parks]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

Oh, you know what I love? We right here. We gotta know right now. Podcasts are not on trial here today. All right, Today we're covering a capital crime of morgue.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Welcome to last podcast on the left, ladies and gentlemen. I didn't get the sweater vest memo. I'm sitting here with two pastel wearing sweater vest morons.

[Marcus Parks]

Do you know who I am? Do you know who my daddy is?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I was listening to strawberry wine all morning, getting in the mood for today. Listen, all right, I don't care. I love Wagon Wheel.

[Marcus Parks]

Wagon Wheel makes me cry.

[Henry Zebrowski]

17.

[Marcus Parks]

They did my circumcision to Wagon Wheel.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They use a wagon wheel. I wish I could have gotten my face more red.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I feel like that's what I'm really missing.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Hey, we can always stop and just put you under a lamp for a couple hours.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, there it is. There it is. There's that wind burn from illegally driving a boat.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm gonna meet you by the dogs.

[Edwin Arroyave]

My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with the pink and gray Henry Zabrowski.

[Marcus Parks]

Thank you. Now, Eddie, we have to remember today, we have to distinct separate ourselves today in our South Carolina representation. Yeah, because we're headed into the trial, we're gonna head into the whole thing with Alec Murdoch, and this is really where we're gonna head towards. Full on podunk yip.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yay.

[Marcus Parks]

Big old knees in the sky. South Carolina Loyal.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, man, I love fireworks. I like butterfly knives, you know, and I like fighting my family.

[Marcus Parks]

We gotta remember so if you're gonna be Dick Harpoon, you're down there.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, okay.

[Marcus Parks]

If you're also in the prosecution. Right, the prosecution. He coming down here. He's a famous. Alec Murdoch. He's famous for trial. He's a trial lawyer. He was on the head of the trial lawyers because he's a trial.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll tell you one man, he done kill his whole damn family.

[Marcus Parks]

You see that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it.

[Marcus Parks]

Because we have to separate from Alec because remember, Alec is up here being like, oh, the tales of what we weave. Oh, the tales we weave. Remember? That's the crying timber of a guilty man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

How about.

[Henry Zebrowski]

God damn it, Danny. Why'd you let me take that boat?

[Marcus Parks]

He's dead.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Not yet.

[Marcus Parks]

Not yet.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Not yet. We've also got with us today the pastel. What? The color of pastel green that Ed Larson is wearing today. I don't think I've ever seen that in nature.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, man, it's my Feaster green.

[Marcus Parks]

I call that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what that is, man?

[Marcus Parks]

Republican foot green.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And here. Here we are at the conclusion to our series on Alec Murdoch.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So when we last left the Murdoch family, Paul had just been responsible for the death of his friend Mallory beach, who'd been killed in a drunk boating accident in which Paul had been driving recklessly, to say the very least. Alec Murdoch, of course, had come to the defense of his horrible shit stain of a son immediately upon hearing of the crash and had arrived with his father, Randolph Murdoch iii, at the hospital where the survivors were being treated that very night. Now, instead of inquiring after the safety of the young adults who'd been injured as a result of his son's actions, or asking what the progress was on the still missing girl, Alec Murdoch had gone from room to room to tell the kids that if investigators asked them who was driving, they were supposed to say they did not know.

[Marcus Parks]

I did none of that. That is absolutely slander. No, I was just a skittering. I just was a skittering and I was just a tinkering. That's a big thing that's going to come up today. A lot of skittering and tinkering.

[Edwin Arroyave]

A lot of skittering and tinkering. Well, the purpose of this was to muddy the waters of the investigation. And that's if a proper investigation were to ever even happen.

[Marcus Parks]

And that's a tragedy in and of itself, Marcus.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes, see, because of the Murdoch's connections, the authorities were doing their best to make Paul's Many crimes go away. But after years of the Murdochs expecting people in the low country to either fall in line at their word or remain too terrified to speak up at all, an attorney named Mark Tinsley had finally dec decided that the Murdochs were, to put it simply, a bunch of pieces of. And someone needed to finally stand up and take him down.

[Henry Zebrowski]

When you openly kill a cute little blonde girl, that's it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's really it in America. Yeah, you're done.

[Marcus Parks]

No matter what. Yeah. I found it interesting because for those of you that obviously you guys know, I watch a lot of body cam footage and a lot of trial footage, but my interrogation footage, a lot of interrogation footage. But part of what I really like is this is what I would call justice porn, which is what I like. Go watch the two hour put together cross examination of Alec Murdoch because they talk about this night a lot in the cross examination because they really wanted to talk about his reputation. And what I found interesting, which I did not know until I rewatched this was all of the stuff with the solicitor's badge.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

So he would use the badge of his father and he would use this fake deputy badge. He got to.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, it wasn't his badge, it wasn't his father.

[Marcus Parks]

Both.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It was a volunteer solicitor's badge.

[Marcus Parks]

But then if you look at the paperwork of the badge, it's not volunteer at all. He is a full official deputy of the.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He's a cop assistant solicitor. I think that's what it was.

[Marcus Parks]

If you listen to the way Murdoch talks about it, it's all. He plays it down and then you look at the paperwork. All that is being said, he would leave the, the, the badge on the dash of his car when he was driving number one to get picked up when he was drunk driving. So the guys would leave him alone.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And the second was in the footage of the hospital. He's waving that badge around and he talks about how he didn't bring the badge to the hospital, but he's. And that's how he got behind everything. He's waving there. And that's also the reason why everybody was automatically listening to him because he was acting like a police officer. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He probably wasn't even saying, I'm Alec Murdoch.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, no. Now, Mark Tinsley took the Beaches case after most of the other attorneys in the low country had turned them down. But not because Tinsley was an outsider. To the contrary, Mark Tinsley had dealt with the Murdochs plenty and had even once considered Alec Murdoch to be a friend. But Tins Tinsley was a man of at least some principle. And he had finally soured on Alec Murdoch cynicism after practicing law with him for years. Tinsley was particularly disturbed by how easily Murdoch could summon tears during closing arguments. A couple of times after fake crying, Murdoch would sit down next to Tinsley and ask him, quote, now you don't.

[Marcus Parks]

Think that was too much now, do you?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Like a fucking asshole.

[Marcus Parks]

You should see him in the trial because he does it. It's him. Cause he also stops the sniffle and Anna snorting because seems to be he laid off the oxy for the trial.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Just a little bit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We had to.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, Tinsley said that he also took the case because he had a daughter around Mallory Veach's age. But it seems like the moment that Tinsley truly said, fuck this guy concerning Alec Murdoch was when Alec boxed Tinsley out of a million dollar fee. On a big case, you don't fuck with a lawyer's money.

[Marcus Parks]

Nope.

[Edwin Arroyave]

After that, Alec Murdoch was open season as far as Mark Tinsley was concerned. So Tinsley jumped at the chance to take Murdoch down when the beaches gave him the opportunity, you know, and it's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like it was such an clear that he was going to win.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, everyone knew it. And he's like, I'm going to get this motherfucker. He's. I got him dead to rights. And he was happy to do it.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, by the end of March, Mark Tinsley had filed a wrongful death suit against multiple members of the Murdoch family for the death of Mallory Beach. He limited it to people above the age of 21 because Paul was still a minor when the crash occurred. Specifically, Tinsley filed against Alec Randy III and Buster. Randy III got involved because he had allowed minors to consume alcohol at his home and leave drunk. Buster was in it because he'd given Paul his old ID to buy alcohol underage, the alcohol that Paul was drinking that very night. And Alec was named because he had allowed his minor son to purchase and drink alcohol on a regular basis. This was proved by the copious number of pictures on the Murdoch family social media in which Paul was very, very drunk.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, but remember that about your social media, it doesn't get deleted. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Even the stories, I think it's gone. It ain't gone.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, no. Yeah, because whenever these social media companies get subpoenaed, they flip. They are just.

[Marcus Parks]

They get it and they magically have it all.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Apple's cool, though. Remember when they wouldn't give the money.

[Marcus Parks]

Of those people who Wouldn't hack the phone. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So hey, you know.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, filing the suit had been necessary because Alec and Randolph's tactics and pressuring witnesses and influencing investigators had worked to a certain degree. But even with their meddling, Paul still faced three felonies, including causing bodily injury, boating under the influence, and manslaughter. He was facing, I think 25 years if he got the maximum sentence on all three.

[Marcus Parks]

And the guilty, that's really what the guilty plea like, get in there. Is really what will superpower the civil suit.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Mm. Well, none of that would matter, of course, if nobody could prove that Paul was driving the boat and the Murdochs were pulling out all the stops to get Paul out of serving a single day in jail. For Paul's lawyer, the Murdaughs called up an old friend of Alex grandfather, old Buster's friend was State Senator Dick Harpootlea.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, there ain't no reason to be mad with old Harpoot because he was just doing his job. That's all he was. He's so simple. State senator, that's all. He's a simple senator, he's just his friend. Alec is his friend.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bring the fucking firing squad back. Dick Carpenter.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's more humane than the electric chairs. What I'm telling you, we gotta bring back this firing squad and shooting his.

[Marcus Parks]

Men in the head also, guess what? It's a lot of fun too. It's nice to see the head explode on contact with an iron jacket bullet in it and have a smelling like.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Bus and you know, why not? Let's just go and put on a lottery around here to see who all South Carolinas want to get in on that.

[Marcus Parks]

Fine, I'm going to go ahead and put my name in the back so I can try myself.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's expensive electrocuting these people.

[Marcus Parks]

I defended that man and I still want to kill his guilty ass.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Ed, you interviewed Dick Harp. Like not to like. What was your vibe on Dick?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, my vibe on Dick was he wanted to sell his book and.

[Marcus Parks]

And he does.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He friends with the Murdoch family, There's no question about it. He's known him pretty much his entire life. He was down. That was the one thing that I felt like I never saw anyone talk about. That's why I brought it up. I was like, you were also a county solicitor. You were hanging out with Big Randy all the time. He's like, yes, we were very close. I was like, yeah, it's a definite conflict of interest. But that don't matter apparently.

[Marcus Parks]

No, and I also think that Dick knows, which is what he sat here and you can see why he was so sad, which is that he knows that this, this story is the end of a very simple time in South Carolina.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

And a very. And he was really sad to lose that simple time when truly innocent times when a white man could kill anybody.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Who like he likes, hey, even even another white person.

[Marcus Parks]

Even another white person if he felt it was properly justified because his son was involved.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was just a late term abortion.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's all. She's only 20. She was 20 years. That's fine when it comes down to it. Democrats.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, they were Democrats. Don't forget Dick Harpuri was a Democrat.

[Marcus Parks]

Democrats, they love, we love abortion. I love abortions. I think they should be fucking mandatory. I don't think kids should live. So I say fuck them. Yeah, I get it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But he is still fighting very hard to get Alec his retrial.

[Marcus Parks]

It's not going to happen.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now Dick Harpoutlian was a household name in South Carolina. He was possibly the most well known solicitor in the state. Famously, Harpoutlian had been the one who had sent serial killer Pee Wee Gaskins to death row.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a part of truth.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And Harputlan had gained further fame after Gaskins had tried to have Harpoutlian's three year old daughter kidnapped.

[Marcus Parks]

But again, what do we know about Pee Wee Gaskins? He was a liar and a moron.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He did actually try to get the girl kidnapped.

[Marcus Parks]

But anybody can. I could call anybody to try to get somebody kidnapped. I could try to get, I could try to kidnap all day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who do you want to kidnap?

[Marcus Parks]

Secret secrets.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, by the time of Paul's boat crash in 2019, Harpoutlian was one year into being a state senator. And although he only served from 2018 to 2024, he had enough influence nationally where Joe Biden appointed Harpoutlian's wife as ambassador to Slovenia of all places in 2021. You don't.

[Marcus Parks]

It's a low pressure one.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's a low pressure one. But you do not get an ambassadorship unless you do someone a favor. Which means that Dick Harpoutlian was had done someone a favor and added a power to do a favor.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm gonna have to get rid of all my merch. I'm gon get rid of my Joe Biden dick sucking sleeve. I'm going to have to get rid of my Joe Biden toe dick sucking sleeves.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You got a lot of dick sucking sleeves.

[Marcus Parks]

This is because honestly, my arms get cold. Really?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Nope. That's all to say that even though the Standing of the Murdochs in the low country community had lowered over the years. Their name still had enough power to call down a senator to defend their dipshit son after said dipshit son had killed a young woman in a drunk boating accident.

[Marcus Parks]

Cuz that would be a waste of. Of Paul's life, Marcus.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, of course, yes. Why would we ruin this young boy's life over one simple misunderstanding? One. One tiny, tiny mistake.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's got so much future behind him.

[Marcus Parks]

He's dead.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And the Murdaughs still had enough money at their disposal to make it worth Harpootlian's while. He didn't do this shit for free. Reportedly his retainer was half a million dollars.

[Marcus Parks]

That's why motherfucker ran and did it is because he knew they were liquid enough to fucking get it. And guess how they were liquid enough. Because Al Murdoch was stealing from old people and children.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's probably why Harpuri is trying to get him out again. Yes, another half a million dollars.

[Marcus Parks]

But also again, it's because these guys all know if you could erase the sins that you're connected to, you are. You go back to innocent too. That means Dick Harpoon's always been right. The whole system's always been right. And no one's ever abused it. No one's ever done this wonderful, simple place. No one would ever turn Hampton county into a place of mur.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now with Harpoutlian's help, Paul Murdoch never spent a day in jail. While it was standard for accused criminals in South Carolina to take their mug shots in prison orange, Paul's mugshot was taken at his hearing in the hallway outside of the courtroom in his street clothes. Never went through processing, never spent a day, never spent an hour uncomfortable, just.

[Marcus Parks]

Trying to make sure it was never a crime.

[Edwin Arroyave]

This of course greatly angered attorney Mark Tinsley, who saw exactly what the Murdaughs were doing. The Murdochs used every trick at their disposal to push Paul's trial back again and again. And circumstances only worked more in the Murdoch's favor when the court shut down in 2020 due to what? Covid. What? Remember?

[Marcus Parks]

Do you think that they had something to do with COVID coming here? Yeah. Do you think that Alec Murdoch went to China? Do you think that he went and he was just like, he. First thing, he was like, where's the lab?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to see where their lab is. Where's the most cuff?

[Marcus Parks]

And he goes right in there and.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He'S just like, I read a cuff.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm a cuff in my mouth cuff. My Dark. Dark eyes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Eyes. Is there anywhere around here I can eat a bat?

[Marcus Parks]

Can I eat a bat somewhere around here?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come meet my Pangolin. Listen, Chinese lady, I can't help but see, but your eyes are pink and juicy and kind of just.

[Marcus Parks]

I just want to lick them big old, crusty, pink filled eyes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Much of the beach family's hopes for justice, therefore rested on the wrongful death suit. But the constant delays had hardened their resolve. So when it came to making the Murdochs pay, the Beaches decided that they wouldn't settle for anything less than 10 million. Doll. Yeah. The case did go to mediation in September of 2020, but Alec opened negotiations. He's always got a fucking bit. He theatrically turned out his pants pockets like a hobo and then said, you.

[Marcus Parks]

Can'T get any money from me because I don't have any. I'm broke.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

It's because he was moving his money into his wife's name.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Mark Tinsley believed that this statement was bullshit one way or another. So he filed a motion that would force Alec Murdoch to disclose his net worth, provide a detailed breakdown of his finances.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, we don't want to go all trouble, all that. We don't want to be getting into all that and wasting the court's time and wasting my time. Wasting your time when a lot of.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It'S buried in the field.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's why I'm saying we don't want.

[Marcus Parks]

To waste everybody's time having to find these documents, having to source these documents, having to read these documents. No one wants to do that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All right, let's all go down.

[Marcus Parks]

Let's go down to tippies, all right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Pickle shots on me.

[Marcus Parks]

Pickle shots.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Tinsley, however, had no idea that even though Alec Murdoch had spent years embezzling millions from the Murdoch firm, pmped Alex, finances were about as big of a mess as what you'd expect from a guy with an oxy habit of dozens of pills a day. See, by 2020, Alec was drowning in debt. He'd also lost a ton of money in 2008 during the financial crash, and he'd fucked up a lot of real estate deals.

[Marcus Parks]

That's what I didn't understand, too, is that that's a part of where all the money went is too. Is that he. I don't even know how. What it means by going wrong. I don't know what that means.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I think you buy the land and you expect to sell the land or flip the land, and then no one buys the land. And so you just have to Keep paying for the last.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because it's in this shitty county that your family made so awful.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, it's because Hampton County's garbage.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Alex banker accomplice Russell Lafitte was moving massive amounts of money stolen from Alex clients from account to account to keep this whole thing going from boat to boat.

[Marcus Parks]

We move the loot. Yeah, don't you worry, Alec. I've got it covered. Me and my five French slaves.

[Edwin Arroyave]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

How about if we bury the money?

[Marcus Parks]

Take the gold from the port to.

[Edwin Arroyave]

The starboard, then back to the port.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bury the money?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, even a quick glance at Alec's records would show that Alec Murdoch was a crook. And besides the financial shell game, Alec was also writing hundreds of checks to his cousin, Fast Eddie. Remember he wrote, wrote I think 437 checks.

[Marcus Parks]

And it's definitely an ironic nickname.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, Fast Eddie. Yeah. And Fast Eddie was allegedly using that money to fund not only Alex Oxy habit, but also finance operations for a potentially massive drug ring with tentacles throughout South Carolina. In other words, disclosing his finances was the absolute last thing that Alec Murdoch would want to do. And the pressure to fix everything, somehow, some way, began to to slowly build over the next year of Alex's life.

[Marcus Parks]

Cuz you know, these crimes and these trials, Eddie, you don't know it yet, but they're. They're so embarrassing for the family. And it's so hard for the family to go through.

[Henry Zebrowski]

My parents never found out about my trials. See, that's how stressful they're dead.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I didn't kill them. That's how stressful they were.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I didn't kill them. It was diabete. Well, you could make an argument that I killed my mother. I gave her diabetes. Then she died of diabetes.

[Marcus Parks]

She chose to have you. You could have been an abortion.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's right.

[Marcus Parks]

Which you should have. If I was President of the United States of America. Absolutely would have been. And so would have I.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If I was an abortion. They would have taxidermied me and put.

[Marcus Parks]

Me on a wall.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You'd be in the motor museum right.

[Marcus Parks]

Now for using a new like edge. Cozy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Even though Tinsley had filed this motion making it likely that others were going to look under the Murdoch financial hood. Alec was in too deep to stop the game now. He continued embezzling and defrauding his clients.

[Marcus Parks]

He never paused once.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Did not. Not even after the murders. He kept doing it. And underneath all this mounting stress, Alex life began falling apart in all the ways that mattered most to ALEC. By mid July 2020, Maggie amidst rumors of Alec engaging in affairs both paid and unpaid.

[Marcus Parks]

I just, like, see him. You remember Chris Farley from that. That. The movie in Tommy Boy, when it cuts to him, is all red faced and he's all, like, high. And she, like, comes in the living room and he's like, with a, like, prostitute who's, like, stuck on his penis. And he's just like, honey, I need help.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honey, this has all just been a big old mistake.

[Marcus Parks]

How many times she's done that? How many afternoons were spent like that?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Fair amount. Fair amount.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like Lloyd Bridges and airplanes. Oh, I picked the wrong week. Stop. Prostitutes. Got nervous. I'm stuck inside of her. Kind of like a rottweiler who's having.

[Marcus Parks]

Sex with the B. Joan. Freeze. I need you to knock her out so that she relaxes. Because obviously right now she's very agitated. Super agitated. Looking to get off. Right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

So what you're gonna have to do is. Maggie, go get my claw hammer. Come on, Maggie. If I don't finish, she can't leave. If I don't finish, I can't pay her.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Maggie moved out of Moselle and their beach house on nearby Edisto Island. Reportedly, she told a friend that she just couldn't stand to live with Alec anymore. At the same time, Paul Murdock's trail of destruction over the years was starting to be spoken more openly when boat crash survivor Connor Cook. Oh, Cotton Top, the one they originally tried to blame the whole thing on.

[Marcus Parks]

They kept trying to blame it on him.

[Edwin Arroyave]

When he gave his deposition in the boat case, he alluded to the other mysterious deaths that have been linked to the Murdoch family in recent years. Connor alluded to the death of housekeeper Gloria Satterfield, specifically that Paul maybe had pushed her down the stairs in a fit of rage. But he also alluded to Paul's role in the murder of Steven Smith. According to what Connor alluded to. To Paul helped Buster dispose of the body.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of course he did. If. If that was in fact what happened. They're tight brothers. You can make crimes together.

[Marcus Parks]

See, I still feel like Buster's too much of a waterhead to do anything.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If you look at. Does it mean that he wasn't there when something happened by accident?

[Marcus Parks]

I totally understand. But Buster's head shaped like a portobello mushroom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You just wanted to make fun of his head. I understand. He's so ugly.

[Marcus Parks]

He's such a light. He looks like a light bulb. He looks like the character from spongebob. Right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

He'.

[Marcus Parks]

Patrick.

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[Marcus Parks]

He's got that head. And there's something about. I don't think his brain works right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't know if he's even capable, but, you know, we'll talk.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like his toupee is a jellyfish.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Marcus Parks]

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[Edwin Arroyave]

Problems with Maggie and Paul, Alex father Randy III was also dying from lung cancer right around this time, and Ale was quickly declining due to Alzheimer's. Perhaps worst of all when it came to family legacy, though, was when Buster Murdoch was thrown out of law school for bad grades, but especially plagiarism.

[Marcus Parks]

Ooh, somebody's not good at school.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Turns out if you just push through your entire life, you can't magically know it all when you get to college.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Exactly. Now, Alec figured that he could Murdoch this whole thing by paying a lawyer 60 grand to get Buster back back in, likely using money stolen from the Gloria Satterfield settlement. But in the end, the University of South Carolina told the Murdochs that it'd probably be best if Buster just stayed away for a little while. Why don't we revisit this in a year and then maybe the year after that, and maybe the year after that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then we'll see how Much money you donate to us. Yeah, dude.

[Marcus Parks]

And then you see that picture of him, Buster, sitting there with this gross ass half beard, with this. He's got a jacket on and he's got jeans on with no socks and no shoes. His feet in the sand. That disgusting ass animal. That disgusting rodent bastard.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I hate you dressed like this.

[Marcus Parks]

I hate him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It does make you angrier.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It really does. It makes you so much angry. I don't like it.

[Marcus Parks]

Driving around South Carolina dressed like this every day, being like, we're gonna need to talk about the length of your crash.

[Henry Zebrowski]

God dammit. Come here. You kind of understand them better.

[Marcus Parks]

Sort of, yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Why they're so uncomfortable and miserable all the time.

[Marcus Parks]

Sort of a suck.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Ultimately though, it seems what probably pushed Alec over the edge completely was when Maggie met with a divorce lawyer in Charleston in April of 2021. And this lawyer advised Maggie to start, quote, gathering numbers. Now, one of the themes that we brought up over and over again in this series is that Murdochs don't divorce. Murdochs do, however. Murder. Which brings us to the motivation behind not just the murder of Maggie Murdoch on June 7, 2021, but the murder of Paul Murdoch as well. Now this year. This is just my personal theory on this. I ain't saying this is the be all end all, because Alex still to this day has not said what his motivation was, nor is there any concrete proof for anything. This is just what I think may have happened.

[Marcus Parks]

We do have an extremely detailed walkthrough of what they believe, how the shootings went down, that tells to me this story very clearly.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, Alec might have found a way to somehow avoid disclosing his finances in the Mallory beach wrongful death suit. Maybe he would able. He. He might even be able to put it off indefinitely.

[Marcus Parks]

I think it was pushing. He was pushing and pushing and pushing it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But a divorce would trigger a full audit of his finances, an audit that he could never get away from. And Maggie was almost certainly about to file for divorce. Plus, with so many other humiliations piling up, including Paul and Buster's respective fuckups, some of them fatal ups, I don't think that being the first Murdoch to divorce course was going to sit well with Alex ego.

[Marcus Parks]

They were also the first Murdoch family to really flex the money angle of stuff. So Maggie very much so knew that a lot more money was accessible than what he was getting paid.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Maggie therefore had to go. But remember that Alec Murdoch was a lawyer. His family have prosecuted dozens of murder cases over the decades. And Alec Murdoch knew how murder cases Worked. He knew, for example, that he would be the main and only suspect if Maggie Murdoch was the only, only murder victim. Because nobody else had the motive to kill Maggie Murdoch. Paul Murdoch, however, was a different story altogether. See, the Murdoch name had not shielded Paul Murdoch from criticism in the death of Mallory beach like it had so many Murdochs before. But more importantly, no other generation of Murdoch had also had to contend with the scourge of social media. The death of Mallory beach had become a story in the true crime world.

[Marcus Parks]

You're welcome. I was one of these guys.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. And plenty of people inside and outside the low country were weighing in all over the Internet quite aggressively on this rich boy who was getting away with killing a pretty young girl.

[Marcus Parks]

Paul did it. And I'm glad he's dead.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I wish you could have died in jail.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, threats were being made by strangers. Low key threats, but threats nonetheless. There was also, of course, the beach family themselves, who were getting more and more frustrated with how slow the process was going in bringing Paul to justice. Finally, there was Anthony Cook, Mallory Beach's boyfriend, who was also on the boat that night and had since cut ties with Paul completely. In other words, while there was only one person with motive to murder Maggie Murdoch, many, many, many people had the motive to murder Paul Murdoch. And so while Maggie was ultimately the target, Paul provided a revenge narrative that Alec hoped would throw cops off his personal scent.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, if they hadn't killed the nanny, she would have been a suspect.

[Marcus Parks]

Exactly. That's why it's important to keep. Keep your nannies close.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Keep your nannies close.

[Marcus Parks]

According to Paul's friends, the whole people were coming after Paul thing was horseshit.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, total. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

This town.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Right.

[Marcus Parks]

Because I. I want to remind people of where this is and who these people are. Like Alec, the first thing he said was, like, Paw. Paul had many enemies. You know, like, it was like the first thing. And we'll get into it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

They called him Pawpaw, which is weird.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What call you?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Real weird. That's what we called my Pawpaw. My. My grandfather, my pa. Now, as far as why Alec was so willing to use his son as a pawn in the murder of his wife.

[Henry Zebrowski]

A pawn. Pawn.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Paul had proved since the death of Mallory beach that he was not only expendable, but a true liability.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's always a pro.

[Marcus Parks]

Bad combo, Paul.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Being expendable and a liability.

[Marcus Parks]

Holy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Paul had proved to Alec that he could not be trusted. Because Paul had not only continued to drink heavily on a near constant basis, Paul had also continued drinking on boats with friends. And if you ask why people still hung around Paul in this environment after a girl had been killed, you might as well ask yourself why young blonde women continued hanging out with O.J. simpson until the end of his days. Some people just aren't that bright.

[Marcus Parks]

People also just love money, access to a free boat. They love when someone else is paying for shit. So they will just go take it and decide to just deal with whatever company is there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And near the end of May, right around the time of Alex 53rd birthday, authorities had stopped Paul with a boat full of drunk kids from going out onto the water. Instead of arresting Paul, the cops just took his booze and called Alec to come take care of it. He wasn't a minor at this point, he was 22. But even so, he's driving a boat drunk.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You never get to do it again.

[Marcus Parks]

No. And you called your daddy again and he like the whole daddy thing comes back into play.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, he didn't call daddy, the cops called dad.

[Marcus Parks]

That's what I mean. They all called his father. And then you just being like you're just kidding, giving your never give your father too many reasons to kill you. Cuz you never know.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, this had been at least the second time that Paul had been caught by the police operating a motor vehicle while drunk since the death of Mallory Beach. That's just the second time he'd been caught by the cops. Because Paul was a Murdoch, the cops kept letting him go. So Alec knew that it was only a matter of time before Paul killed again. Not coincidentally, this incident on the boat occurred just about a week or two before the murder of Paul and Maggie. So it seems to me that this was the thing that made Alec decide that his son was too much of a liability to continue the Murdoch name and was therefore expendable. And that's my personal theory for motivation as to why both Maggie and Paul were murdered that night.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Heck of a theory.

[Marcus Parks]

Next makes total sense. And then also it's why he had the two separate guns and it's why he set it up. Because then we're also going to see the other narrative. Right. So revenge is one. Revenge, the biggest narrative. Revenge fueled by drug like you know, drug network. That's another thing that you have assassins, sure. You know, assassins came out to Hampton County.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He really does like. And we'll get into it later but you know, he really does it, try to introduce as many possible motives as he can.

[Marcus Parks]

He's like, well you know, there's crooked John, but I would never blame Crooked John for something like this. But you know, there's Murder and Matthew.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But that's just a nickname. It's because of how many sliders from.

[Marcus Parks]

White Castle he can eat. But that's all better.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I can say.

[Marcus Parks]

But we don't know where he was in time to cry.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, that's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is interesting that Paul killed Mallory in the same place that her last name is.

[Edwin Arroyave]

The beach.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. And then he got killed in the same place that his last name. The dogs.

[Marcus Parks]

Mur.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Dogs.

[Marcus Parks]

That's an interesting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Stay away from parks.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I love Park.

[Marcus Parks]

That's a view into Ed's mind. Like Ed sees the world. Like it was just sort of like words floating around and he just g.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You gotta connect them.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Beach. Beach.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She was there.

[Marcus Parks]

Dog, Dog, dog. I like dogs. I said that on the show. Good to see on the show.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're just lucky there's nowhere Zabrowskis live.

[Marcus Parks]

No, no. We don't know now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec woke up late and alone on the day of the murders. According to author Valerie Bowerline, Maggie was not living at Moselle by this point Inst. Maggie was out at the beach house in a d sto about an hour away. The only person at Moselle who was tending to Alec on June 7 was the housekeeper they'd hired after Gloria died. This woman, a former prison guard, was Blanca Simpson, person they completely underestimated. Blanca was coming over that afternoon to stock up on Capri Suns for Alec, specifically Orange Pineapple Tango and Mountain Cooler because Alec got grumpy if the fridge wasn't always stocked with his favorite flavors.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Mountain Cooler's good than a. So it's no Pacific sun, but it's awesome.

[Marcus Parks]

I just like. What's the last time you had a Capri Sun?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I actually, I took a sip not too long ago. Cuz I keep them in the bottom drawer in the fridge for whenever the kids come by.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. So. Cuz I like, you know.

[Marcus Parks]

So they're like, they hurt me now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Dude, I.

[Marcus Parks]

My mouth.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That shit's like crack for the kids.

[Marcus Parks]

You give it to them, they all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Start like ripping at the trees and.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Like clawing at each other.

[Marcus Parks]

It's hilarious.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

That's why I don't think it was even the hot seat that put Alec over the edge.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It could have been the Capri Sun.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now we're getting into the Twinkie defense.

[Marcus Parks]

Tell the jury they're wrong.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Blanca showed up a little afternoon with the Capri Suns to find Alec getting ready for work, but she noticed that he looked extremely tired and Disheveled, like he was still wearing his clothes from the night before. Blanca therefore fixed his collar and sent him out the door to his job at PMPED at about 12:30 in the afternoon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, I was gonna hope you say that Blanco fixed his collar and then jumped on him and started biting at his neck.

[Edwin Arroyave]

She started screaming and then electricity.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Fun. He very often he did the thing thing. These Ubers are crazy. He's very often the guy kept. Every time they call him right for work, he's always the, I'm there, I'm on my way, I'm in the car, you know. In his underwear.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Covered in fast food wrappers, shoving oxy in his mouth.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No. We don't know for sure if Alec woke up that day planning to murder Maggie and Alec. I actually don't think he did. I actually don't think he was planning it that day. I think think he was waiting for the day.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I think that he was prepared for the day and knew that the day would come and that was. He knew it was coming soon and it would happen any day and that it just happened to be that day.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yep. What we do know is that one more pressure point, perhaps the biggest one of all, was put on Alec just after he arrived late to work that afternoon. Because Alec had up at pmped the same way that he'd up with attorney Mark ten. You don't fuck with a lawyer's money. See, after pmped had won a big settlement worth nearly a million dollars a few months prior, Alec had neglected to pay out the other attorneys who'd worked on the case. He'd gotten sloppy and had either forgotten or he just decided to not pay them. Instead, he had kept the entire settlement check, about $700,000, all for himself. PMPED therefore started looking into Alex books. And the chief financial officer had been asking a lot of. Much to Alex annoyance, he didn't think anyone was ever going to question him. By June 7, the CFO was planning to fully confront Alec about the missing check. But just as she was in his office about to get into it with him, Alex phone rang. Almost like if it was in a movie, you'd say it was too convenient. You'd say this is fucking deus ex machina. The call was from Alex brother, who was delivering the bad news that their father, Randy the iii, was back in the hospital with pneumonia and was sure to die soon. The CFO therefore dropped their line of questioning and pivoted to consoling Alec Murdoch about his father's impending death. Alec, however, had just been handed a reason to call both Maggie and Paul back to Moselle. That night, he got a hold of both of them and said that they all needed to go see Big Randy before he died. You got to with come up on home.

[Marcus Parks]

You got to go see Pippy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We go see Pippy. We got to go make sure we get that money. You got to get pit paw. Go, go.

[Marcus Parks]

Kiss his lip.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, Pao.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come see Pippy. Pow, pow. There's Pippy now.

[Marcus Parks]

Go get. Get Pippy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Kiss.

[Marcus Parks]

Give us kisses.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Give us kisses.

[Marcus Parks]

Show me the child.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All bastards.

[Marcus Parks]

And then this is the same thing where he's like all beat up about his dad and stuff, but I feel like it all comes down to the fact that he knows that it's over.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, yeah. I mean, when they're start when the CFO's asking questions, he ain't getting out of it.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, yeah, because he also thought. He just thought it would never happen.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Also, the other reason to get him out of it, I'm sure he's in his mind and gets all these people out of so many things, is when you pretend to be the fucking victim.

[Marcus Parks]

Of course.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah, dude. This was a godsend to him. He loved that his father was dying. It gave him the exact re. I feel like he. He. He doesn't feel emotions. Alec Murdoch is one of those people that every single thing is a way to capital capitalize on other people.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Sure.

[Marcus Parks]

So when that happened, he was like, yeah, yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

When I got a hold of Paul, Paul said it, sure, yeah, I'll be there later. And Maggie reluctantly agreed. But she texted a friend to say that Alex request was fishy and that she thought that Alec was up to something, but she didn't know what.

[Marcus Parks]

And part of it to remember of why he's such a big liar is because throughout all of this, he's like, man, Maggie were the happiest we have ever been. Yeah, we were nothing. But every night we sat, I sang to her to sleep. I thought. I thought of a song, and I made up a song each night a different song about how we could have met. No, she was not living with you.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, they were also keeping it far under wraps from just about everybody because even Blanca, their housekeeper, seemed to not know that, like, anything was going on.

[Marcus Parks]

It's because Maggie, I think, was starting to understand that she. Something bad might happen.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, they were keeping everything on the down low.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She was smart. She got her divorce lawyer in Charleston in different county.

[Marcus Parks]

She did it all on the side. That's how you got to do it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But she didn't get out. Sadly, very, very sadly, she did not get out fast enough.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Well, Maggie was nevertheless on her way to Moselle by that afternoon. And with both Maggie and Paul guaranteed to be Moselle that night, Alec Murdock presumably began psyching himself up to murder his wife and youngest son. However, it does beg the question, and this is a question that I. It just dawned on me today. Did Paul and Maggie ask why Buster wasn't there that that night? What did Alec tell them? And how did he make sure that Paul and Maggie did not text Buster about the visit? Did Alec tell Buster to stay away that night? And if he did, did Alec give a reason perhaps? Did Alec give Buster the real reason?

[Marcus Parks]

Buster? No.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, it's not in the text messages, right?

[Edwin Arroyave]

No.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So I, he probably just didn't want him there because he knew what he was going to do and he didn't want to kill him.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I know he was going to be about it. He's going to be like no daddy, no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh daddy I wizards why we can figure this out.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But what I'm saying is that how did he keep Buster away? Because you know of course if Paul and Maggie are going to be like hey Buster, you coming on out And Buster like well I don't know what for. How did they keep, how did Alec keep him away? Because remember he wants to keep Buster alive. He doesn't want to kill Buster.

[Marcus Parks]

He told them all different reasons. Buster I believe had an alibi. I believe Buster, the reason why he wasn't brought in fully was because he was, I want to say he was, was with friends. He was specifically not there. That wasn't the night that they were going to necessarily go to visit Pee Pee and Moomui wherever their grandparents name is. Who gives a right they were going to go visit them. That was like one of the reasons I think that's what he told Maggie. Paul was there because ostensibly Paul was working on the, that the land that night, right? He was doing this dumb tinkering and skittering. Whatever they do, right? Whatever they go. He said they go around there in the wind, mess around. I'm going with Paul.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, you're on the atv. You got to check the land. You got, you got check. Gota go check the property.

[Marcus Parks]

Sneaky Biggin. We're going over here, going, going a log over here, turn to a frog, going over here, talk talking to a bird, you know, I mean like, like you dude. And so I, I, I, that is why I think Buster literally just couldn't be there. Paul was there for another reason. Maggie was told to be there for another reason. I think Paul was just as surprised to see Maggie. And by the time all of that was.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Was happening, Paul was not surprised to see Maggie. Paul and Maggie had texted that day because, well, because, well, Paul had asked like, what are we eating? And she's. And she said, albranca made us keep steaks.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Country fried steak.

[Marcus Parks]

But then.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So they knew.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, but, but yeah, Buster was in there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Their last meal was fried steak.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, Fried, yeah. Chicken fried steak.

[Marcus Parks]

Incredible meal.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Called steak burgers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't like it.

[Marcus Parks]

I like chicken bread steak. Yeah, that's a real southern thing. I like. I like a nice soul food deal.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Mm.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, Alec arrived back at Moselle around 6:40pm on June 7, while Paul got there. About 20 minutes later, the two of them got into their ATV and took a ride around the property specifically to look at some trees that their new groundskeeper had damaged. Paul, giggling like an idiot, took videos of his dad fucking around with one of the trees for Snapchat because Paul was constantly on his phone because he.

[Marcus Parks]

Had canceled his Facebook account because of the crimes. But he still loved his Snapchat.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Yeah. Then Paul and Alec went back to the house at Moselle where they were soon joined by Maggie. The three of them ate dinner together, then went down to the dog kennels where they kept their hunting dogs locked up day and night like a bunch of shitheads so Paul could check on a dog that he was watching for his friend Rogan Gibson.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, you mean Ro Ro. I hate these people. I hate these. Waste of space.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do they call him Ro?

[Marcus Parks]

Ro? This is a part of when he gets on the stand. Alec Murray.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Why do they all talk like they're babies?

[Marcus Parks]

Because they are. It's just they infantilize, make it sound not as serious. They do everything like this. It's over. Familiarity, it's this thing. Meanwhile, they're all getting paid. Every one of them's on the payroll, but he's calling him Roro and Bing Bong and Grandma Snappy and all these dumbass southern nicknames. And each one of them, it's like. And they have to correct him on the stand. Cuz they're like, who's Roro? He's like, well, that's Rogan, blah blah, blah. And they're like, you've never referred to him as Roro before. And he's like, we all call him Roro. And there's Paul. Paul and, you know, Grandma Dippy and all this kind of like you.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, it's this. It's this sort of like. It's this false folksiness that is supposed to like wealthy.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, I would not cost wealthy. I would say, you know, we will blast. You know, and I'll never consider us a wealthy or important family. I'm not. We don't think in terms of that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, well, you want to make a jury like you seem simple.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, that's it. And then he crouches like this. He's so small.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He's so delicate, even though he's 6 foot 4. Yeah. Now, Alex plan was simple, although it was hastily put together. He was going to kill his wife and son down at the kennels, go visit his mother in town to establish an alibi, then quickly head back to Moselle where he would, quote, unquote, discover the bodies.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, no.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, God. And so Alec, Maggie and Paul went out to the dog kennels a little before 8:45 that night. Maggie played with her dog, Bubba, and Paul went to go check on his friend's adorable little chocolate lab Cash, who had his an injured tail. Poor puppy. Now, we don't know exactly when Alec began his short murder spree, but we do know that Paul was still alive at 8:48pm because that is when he sent his last ever text. You up? Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

It's 8:45.

[Edwin Arroyave]

A friend, a friend of Paul's asked him for a movie recommendation. So Paul told his friend that he should watch the remake of A Star Is Born, the one with Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. It is fucking awesome.

[Marcus Parks]

Do you think that pushed him over the edge? Because it's the worst. A Star Is Born. Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Of course, within minutes of sending that text, Paul Murdoch would be dead.

[Marcus Parks]

Real recommendation is that Kris Kristofferson, A Star Is Born.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, that's incredible.

[Marcus Parks]

That's an incredible. And technically, the Judy Garland, A Stor Is Born is also a classic of cinema that you should watch ahead of time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't with that one.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Isn't that the. Chris. Christopher. Isn't Barbara Streisand in that?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah. No, she's incredible.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I love Baba.

[Marcus Parks]

Star Is Born. Whatever Paul's saying is horseshit. Yeah. Another reason I'm glad he's dead.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I am happy that that was his last movie.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, Alec had two guns with him that night out at the kennels, a shotgun and an AR15 rifle. While Paul was in the small feed room at the kennels, Investigators believe that ALEC laid the AR15 against the room's outside side wall without his family seeing him approach with the guns. Or hell, they may have seen Alec walking around with two massive guns because there were so many fucking guns on this property at all times that any one of them carrying one or two guns wouldn't have even merited a comment like, hey, what are you doing with those guns?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, because they loved it.

[Marcus Parks]

That's fine. I'll just sneak up on my family first I got to remove my slide on sketchers, put on my compression socks so that my veins don't make any noises, and I'm just going to sneak a sneaky sneak out there. Dink, dink, dink, dink, dink.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Real quiet like, hey dad, you want to shoot some dogs? Oh wow, son. What an amazing idea.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Whether or not Alec was being sneaky, once he laid the AR15 in position, he picked up the shotgun and approached Paul in the feet speed room where he fired a single blast into his son's chest.

[Marcus Parks]

I literally think it was like a spin move. I could see him doing like a, like around the corner and just blah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now Alec probably thought that this would be enough to kill Paul. But even though Paul was a bastard, he was also a tough bastard and the initial blast was not enough to take him down. After being shot, Paul began walking toward Alec, who was standing just outside the doorway to the feed room. Neither out of fear or panic, Alec crouched down next to the door and when his son walked through the door doorway, Alec fired upward at close range. This of course, was the fatal shot. It completely separated Paul's brains from his head and turned his face into a loose mask of skin that barely settled upon the skull. The blasted bits of bone flying into the feed room ceiling and Paul's red hair mixed with his blood splattered against the door frame. As undignified in death as he was in life, Paul had been killed wearing a T shirt that said in big red lettering, wham, bam, thank you ma'.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Am.

[Marcus Parks]

See, but this is why these shooting patterns are also the reason why we know it was not done by a professional. A professional would have done it correctly. I mean, like, seriously, are there professionals there? Yeah, but no, if there were, no, if this was a, an assassin.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, so he was saying it was an assassin, not like a murder out.

[Marcus Parks]

Of, you know, that they had prepared that many people had come to do this. This is not a one man operation. This is a several person operation that came here and systematically murdered his incredibly canny family.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now it's thought that Maggie was a Fair distance away when Paul was killed. And she probably came to see what had happened after hearing the two shots. But by the time she saw her son's dead body, it's likely that Alec had already picked up the AR15 that he had set aside. This, however, wasn't due to Alec planning on shooting his wife from a distance. Instead, it's speculated that Alec believed that if he killed Paul and Maggie with two different guns, then investigators would think there were two shooters. Because what single person uses two guns at the same crime scene?

[Marcus Parks]

Only the smartest criminal in all South Carolina.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But it's likely that once Maggie saw her youngest son lying on the ground with his brains splattered all over the place, Alec had already fired, shooting her in the stomach and upper thigh. Another bullet went through her wrist, shattering her tennis bracelet, which scattered the ground down with tiny diamonds. It's thought that Maggie then fell to her hands and knees where Alex shot her again with the fatal bullet. One that was powerful enough to go into her chest and travel all the way up her body into her brain. Alec then walked up and fired one more shot into her head, execution style, to make sure the job was done. And by splitting his wife's skull open with that last bullet bullet, Alec Murdoch had removed both the possibility of divorce and his inconvenient son. Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

I get it now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

What?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wham, bam, thank you, man.

[Marcus Parks]

No, just the, this whole scenario.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Indeed.

[Marcus Parks]

And this is what points to the fact that somebody who's never killed somebody before, they really are.

[Edwin Arroyave]

This is a, it's very sloppy.

[Marcus Parks]

It's extremely sloppy for a hit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also, he knows how to get away with this.

[Marcus Parks]

He thought he did.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, well, obviously, I, yeah, I, I, I think that what he did is that there was just. He tried throwing too much, too many ingredients into the soup. Like, I, I think he should have stuck with one story and gone with that, but he just, he threw too much out there.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, there was one thing he tried to pull back and it be the thing that sunk him, and there was nothing he could do about it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, after committing the murders, Alec also committed to his alibi. After changing clothes, he called Maggie's phone, then sent her a text saying he was going to go check on Mama and that he'd be right back. Interestingly, in quick succession, Alec then called his son Buster, a fellow attorney named Chris Wilson, and his youngest brother, John Marvin. John Marvin also was quite adept at cleaning up crime scenes. In the past, he'd been the one who had gone down and removed the boat that had Killed Mallory beach from that crime scene. Well, this was all before Alec arrived at his mother's house at 9:22pm about 30 minutes after the murder. Alec then went up to check on his mom, then spent a small amount of time watching TV with his mother's caregiver, who said Alec looked fidgety. Alec was only at his mother's house for 20 minutes before leaving to head back to Moselle.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm just skittering. I'm a skitter in a tank. That's how I'm doing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You want to skitter a dicker with me?

[Marcus Parks]

Have this pill right here. Going to help you skitter. Ever done that? You're a skitter before. I said, now you're skittering.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I ain't got time to skitter.

[Marcus Parks]

I got to go. I'm.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I got. I ain't got time to skitter. I got a scoot.

[Marcus Parks]

There's difference between scooting a skitter. Now let me explain.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yep. And after that, I got about two hours of skedaddling.

[Marcus Parks]

Go.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec then called Paul's phone a couple of times.

[Marcus Parks]

People ever Irish skedaddle? Continue. I'm sorry, I just never heard that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec then called Paul's phone a couple of times and texted Maggie a couple of times as well. Texting things like, bye, call me back. Just to make it all look good. Alec also sometime between the murders and the visit, either disposed of the murder weapons or hid them where someone else could get rid of them later. To this day, neither gun has been.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Found or is close.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I believe that was a John Marvin job.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It could it. Well, I mean, according to one, I believe, YouTuber who sent a drone onto the Murdoch property, he did capture video of John Marvin and Buster removing guns from the property. Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

In plain day, literally in the sunshine of the day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Finally though, Alec Murdoch returned to Moselle at 10:00pm and arrived back at the kennels at 10:05 with everything in place. Alec then placed his infamous call to 911 to give the performance of his life.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't remember. Alec, before we make this call, K. Assassins have entered in Hampton County. How are you thinking about. That's your motivation. Assassins have entered in Manhattan, Manhampton County. All right, what do I. Oh, okay.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now Alec, actually, you don't know if there are assassins. We don't know. We are.

[Marcus Parks]

We blame no one. We are just open to facts. We're open to facts. We're helping the investigation. We're open to facts.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And after you make this call, you can Have a little reward of a couple oxy. Okay.

[Marcus Parks]

If. One, two. Couple oxies. You have a Capri sun. Wash them down.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And if I don't get arrested by the end of the night, then I can have a bowl of fruity peppers with the sugar on top.

[Marcus Parks]

Now be nice.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then I can watch my favorite videos. You can watch all my favorite videos.

[Marcus Parks]

I love Theo von. I think I.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know what? My video. I like that one where that hippo be. Oh, hippo be.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, Robbie my Diddy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is that in the colorblind glasses? I like the colorblind glass.

[Marcus Parks]

I also like the ones where the women are getting shot in the head.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh my God. I killed my wife.

[Edwin Arroyave]

All right, let's hear the call.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I need the police to pass this immediately.

[Edwin Arroyave]

My wife and child. Yeah, right. That's really all you need to hear.

[Marcus Parks]

Child of the shot. Badly. He's just doing. I've been trying to figure out how to get my voice to do it. It's so hard. My wife. A child of a child.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Badly. There is like probably like a hint of like actual pain in there. Cuz he realizes what he's just done.

[Marcus Parks]

You know, each just. It was Eddie. It was really hard on him.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, that's.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't think you understand. It was super difficult for him to do it and it really bummed him out.

[Edwin Arroyave]

We never think about the annihilators in the family. Annihil. Like, what does it do to the annihilator?

[Marcus Parks]

I think, guess what? He is alone.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

He has to go through it all alone.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's got Blanca.

[Marcus Parks]

That's right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's got Buster.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, he's got e Honda.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's going to be there. He's got his dad for another couple hours.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, the first authority figure to arrive at Moselle parked near the dog kennels. About 20 minutes after Alec Murdoch made his call, the deputy saw Paul's body first, lying face down with his brains at his feet. He then spotted Maggie, who was 30ft away lying face down on the grass. Now, before the cops had even taped off the scene, Alec immediately began deflecting the blame elsewhere. He said that his son had been in a boat. Boat wreck a few months back, which was weird because the boat wreck had been over two years earlier.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, he's making it all up.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec also said that Paul had been getting threats and quote, he's been getting locked like punched. Yeah, he said he. He goes, yeah, he's getting like. And this is like when there's one cop on the scene and you know, the dead bodies are still in the background, and he's. And Paul throwing out. Alex immediately throwing out.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, that guy. Oh, who's that guy? Oh.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, my God. There's a big owl.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It certainly helps you not get cuffed.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, that's what he. Whoa. He was. He wasn't cuffed.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

They went to his house. They did the little platinum. Take him to the station.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Took a year.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Damn.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Before cuffs would go on him for these murders. But despite Alex best efforts, investigators immediately noticed a few things about the scene that didn't add up.

[Marcus Parks]

These are great cops, tech. This is one of those few stories. Stories where it's like the cops actually did their jobs in this.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Best as they. Well, best as they could with all these people around.

[Marcus Parks]

I can't believe it. Honestly. You could like the fact that they even. Because he. For all intents and purposes, O.J. simpson was right. Alec Murdoch should have walked. The fact that these guys actually put this all together is huge.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Hey, I mean. And that's. And I think it also tells you sled is huge, but it also tells you the. It tells you why a prosecution must have all of their fucking ducks in a row before they charge someone with the crime. They have to have the case.

[Marcus Parks]

It's why it takes so long.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Even though if you know. Even though you can know that someone has committed the murder, when you're dealing with somebody like Alec Murdoch, who is ensconced in the criminal justice system, whose family is the criminal justice system, you got to win.

[Marcus Parks]

See him on that one witness stand. He is evasion. Yeah. He cannot answer a simple question at all. He won't. Because he's always assuming you're trying to catch him in something which makes you look extremely guilty. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, as opposed to other investigations in which the Murdochs took control immediately, the lead officer in this investigation had grown up two counties away. They had no clue who Alec Murdoch was.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The right guy showed up.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, yeah. Under the supervision of an unbiased investigator, the other deputies noticed that there were no signs of. Of an ambush. No footprints leading to or from the woods, no obvious defense wounds, and no signs of a struggle. All this, of course, pointed towards the likelihood that Paul and Maggie were killed by someone they knew. All these little things matter.

[Marcus Parks]

Also remember, though, at the time, too, Alec is throwing his badge around. So when they also first showed up, the first thing is they go into his car and you see the badge right on the dash.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, by the time the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division showed up, that sled a group of a dozen civilians made up of family, friends and acquaintances of the Murdochs had already arrived. But even though these people crowded up the scene in mid it difficult to collect evidence, authorities still quickly surmised that Alec Murdoch had indeed killed his wife and son out there. They just had to prove it. Now, Alex interview with investigators on the scene conducted in Alex SUV was rife with lies, half truths and wild stories. The most obvious lie was that Alec claimed that he'd rushed to the bodies and taken both of their pulses to see if they were alive. But if he'd done that, he would have been both bloody and muddy. Alec was squeaky clean.

[Marcus Parks]

That he was so clean. They went on to notice that he smelled like fresh laundry.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, because he went and changed.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he went and showered.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Detectives also noted that Alec had freely admitted to handling Paul's phone without them asking if he had done so.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, he was just. I was looking out, looking at it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He'd also given two explanations to two officers as to the reason why Alec, a former prosecutor, had handled evidence at a murder scene.

[Marcus Parks]

He was like, I was just trying to.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I was just trying to.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I was trying. Well, he told him, he told one investigator that he'd reached an apart Paul's pocket to get the phone so he could check something. Exactly. I wanted to check something.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But he told the other officer that the phone had fallen out of Paul's pocket on its own accord, and Alec had gently placed it back on the body. This inconsistency was of course, noted by investigators.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, because he knew he was all over his son's phone.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. He was trying to get to something. He's trying to see if he had recorded anything, but that was locked up.

[Marcus Parks]

Tight because that was the thing. Is that what they say? You could see it. He pulled it out of his phone. Guess what it was linked to. To open his. His face.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Guess what? He blew off of his body. I'm not even joking. Guess what? He blew off of his body.

[Edwin Arroyave]

His face.

[Marcus Parks]

So he went to go. He literally went to go, try to do it quickly, and was looking at his faceless son that he just murdered and realizes he couldn't open the phone. And then I could see he had a little mini attack, you know, and then went like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Marcus Parks]

Realizing what he's done.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Dropped it. Yep. Finally, though, in an attempt to throw as many suspects at investigators as possible, Alec brought up their new groundskeeper, a guy named CB Rowe. Alex said that Roe wasn't working out, but then tacked on an insane story that the groundskeeper has supposedly told Paul.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, my thing is, I. I don't want to throw anybody under the bus here. I don't know who would do something like this, obviously, but my. I did hire a professional murderer to work on the. On the field. Yeah, I knew he professional.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I mean, he murdered for the government, so I don't know if that makes him a professional.

[Marcus Parks]

How do you call him? Temp to perm.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, supposedly this groundskeeper, CB Row, had told Paul that when Rose in high school, he got into a fight with a bunch of black guys and an undercover FBI team undercover at Rose High School had seen him fight, and he was impressed by how he handled himself against black guys.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow.

[Marcus Parks]

He fought black guys.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Black guys. The FBI was like, oh, my God, nobody can fight black guys.

[Marcus Parks]

They're fighting black guys. We need to hire them because I'm afraid of black guys.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Nobody fights black guys like the FBI fights black guys. That's Martin Luther King Jr. Yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It stands for fight black guys individually.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, so impressed. And this is according to Alec. Was Alec.

[Marcus Parks]

Alec.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And Alec is telling this story in his SUV an hour after the cops showed up to find his wife and son's dead bodies in the outside of their fucking dog kennels.

[Marcus Parks]

But I don't think he did it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Alex saying, so impressed was the FBI that they put Roe on an undercover team with three Navy SEALs whose sole job was to murder Black Panthers from Myrtle beach to Savannah. And that's supposedly what Roe did before. Before coming to work as the Murdoch's groundkeeper.

[Marcus Parks]

Isn't a groundskeeper. Like you don't hire one unless he has some kind of, like, shady fake story.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Right.

[Marcus Parks]

Like you need. They know that's it's not a groundskeeper unless he has a story like that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, well, I mean, it helps, right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Think about the guy that helps your dad.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

How many horrific things has he told you?

[Edwin Arroyave]

None. He doesn't tell me anything horrific because.

[Marcus Parks]

He knows to keep. Because he's actually told. Done horrific things like. Because he hasn't done those things, he'd be confessing to crimes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, it's good to hire a groundskeeper that kills Panthers, you know, in case any show up.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, you want the dog cat Panthers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. That's what I'm talking about.

[Marcus Parks]

Sure.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But also, you would. You should re home them. You shouldn't be killing them.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He did say specifically radical Black Panthers. Although it might. He might have been like, they were radical Black Panthers. Tubular. Black Panthers.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, they Were awesome.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[Marcus Parks]

He made the ruin and then he.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Used a half pipe to smoke oxy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The whole. When they're investigating him or. Or grilling him, he's in the front seat, which I found very weird.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, he's in. He's in the front seat and there are people in the back seat that are reaching up and like, you know, he's crying and boohooing about.

[Marcus Parks]

I found it. I saw his brains.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And they're, you know, they're grabbing onto his shoulder. But they're also very suspicious. So let me actually. Help me understand. Anytime a cop says help me understand, you're in trouble.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, like also just like putting their hand on his shoulder and stuff like that. It's, I feel like, is a good tactic. Just like treat him. They make him think he's winning and just let him keep talking.

[Marcus Parks]

Dude, you know what's funny is that I actually have completely even reversed it. Just sitting here thinking about that. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It makes him really comfortable. Yeah, it really makes him think that, oh, I've gotten away with this already, haven't I? And he can really start lying and then. Because the lying is what gets you later. It's all of the peak and putting it all back together.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, they know that they all have to play good cop all at the same time with it like that. With Alec Murdoch, you have to play good cop all the time because he's telling so many lies and he's just. He just keeps talking because he wants to talk. He thinks he's so fucking clever. So you just keep this guy talking and he's eventually going to tell enough lies where you can just start tripping him up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

What he should have done. It should have just been fucking sad and puking and unresponsive. Responsive as like anyone would who just lost their entire family.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, that was one of the big tells for the investigators on the scene immediately. Because they said that, you know, when you. When they showed up to murder scenes, usually relatives are inconsolable. And they're like, why are you. They say things like, why are you here? Why aren't you out trying to find these people? Why aren't you trying to find.

[Marcus Parks]

Talking to me? Why you should be out there.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Yeah. And Alex, like, well, why don't we go sit down in my SUV for a little while? You know, maybe we can get chat and I can tell you what's going on. On, you know, it's. It's been hard.

[Marcus Parks]

No, you know, talked about it. Like, it was a. He had the same feeling, like it was something like. Like a building collapse on the farm or if, like something bad like that wasn't involving the death of your family. He was just acting like it was just this big old. Like.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, he'd acted like someone had come on to his. And shot a couple of his dogs. Yes, that. That's how that. Is this. The same level of emotion he was showing was the level of emotion I would show if. If someone had broken a movie house and killed my dog.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, I'd show an extreme amount of emotion.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Actually, honestly, I'd be way more upset if something happened to Carmi than Paul. Yeah. I mean, I'd be way. I'll kill you. Do something to Carmi, I'll kill you.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. But I would say I'm going to show more emotion if my wife was murdered than if my dog was murdered.

[Marcus Parks]

And.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And he's more showing. And he's showing more dog murder. Level of emotion.

[Marcus Parks]

Guys at home, ask your wife what she thinks. If you're with your girlfriend or if you're watching Wife, just be like, who do you love more? This is a good. Stop the show right now and ask them right now, who would you be more sad about if they died? The dog, the pet or me? Yeah, do it right now. Ruin your afternoon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All I know is I don't think. I don't see Julie spoon feeding Pumpkin into my mouth. And she does tootsies.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, back to Alec in the SUV after he told them about the groundskeeper and the Black Panthers and all that bullshit. He added he didn't really think that their groundskeeper would kill Paul and Maggie. But you know Roe, his history. It's worth pointing out. You might want to look into him. It's worth pointing out. Now, there was a fair amount of evidence at the scene, but it would be an incredibly long time before investigators could access it. Most important, of course, was Paul's phone. But investigators couldn't unlock it. None of the Murdoch family knew the password, and Paul had never synced to the Cloud. And they also didn't want to keep trying passwords and get locked up. Walked out permanently. The other big piece of evidence was quite possibly the dumbest piece of evidence I've ever heard of in a murder case. Found next to the gun rack in the Murdoch gun room was. What else but an empty bag of Capri Sun.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, got him.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I don't know if it was Mountain Breeze or Pineapple Cooler. Doesn't say. Didn't say. In the court documents, it's mountain cooler and pineapple breeze.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, thank you. Please, I don't want to get these letters.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So all this fucking sun heads out there. Well, according to the testimony of the Murdoch's housekeeper, Blanca, there weren't any Capri Suns in the house on the morning of June 7th. Not until she stocked back up. And Alec did not take one with him to work that day. That meant that Alec had to have had that Capri sun that afternoon. So investigators suspected that Alec downed one more sweet, sweet Caprice on and absentmindedly dropped the empty bag like a fucking assassin, flicking away a cigarette just before he grabbed the shotgun. And the AR15 that he used to kill his wife and son.

[Marcus Parks]

She's like chewing on it there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Also, Gary Oldman in the Professional eats the pills.

[Marcus Parks]

I honestly, I could totally see Capri Suns could make me want to kill my family.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, investigators also spoke with Rogan Gibson, Paul's friend, the one who owned the dog that Paul was looking after. Rogan said that he had spoken with Paul at the dog kennels that evening and he had heard Alec and Maggie talking in the background. Now, that's hearsay. That's not proof. He didn't record the conversation, but it did put Alec at the scene. And it directly contradicted the claim that Alec had made over and over that he hadn't been out to the dog kennels at all on the night of the murders prior to finding his wife and son's dead bodies. That's a very important thing, he said. He did not go out there until 10 o' clock that night and he wasn't there.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Roro ruining everything.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Roro. Somebody call Bing Bong. Somebody. I call Grandma Snappies and tell her what's going on and dig her out of a grave. Tell, tell. Grow Grow or whatever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

These idiots. I hate Southern people.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I. I love.

[Marcus Parks]

I love the Southern.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come on.

[Edwin Arroyave]

All right. Come on, man. Come on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're getting too passionate. Yeah, it's the best.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You're just. You're just too sweaty, I think.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's the Ro Ro and the pow Pow.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's fine. It's fine. Just a different way of referring to people.

[Marcus Parks]

I hate Pow Pow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We can have a good time down there.

[Marcus Parks]

No, of course. No, I'll show you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll show you a good time.

[Marcus Parks]

I hate the little nicknames.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, like nobody in Queens has nicknames for each other.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, they're fun, like Face and Robbie. Two times. You know, Jimmy Dick a lot.

[Edwin Arroyave]

From your grave.

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[Edwin Arroyave]

And so investigators had no other suspects besides Alec Murdoch. They were in fact so Confident from the beginning that when they announced the double homicide, they made sure to say, without naming their suspect, that there was no danger to. To the public here whatsoever. They were so sure of it. The murders, at the very least, had the effect of taking the heat off Alec Murdoch in the wrongful death suit that the Beaches had filed against him. Because the morning after the murders, the judge in the Mallory beach suit canceled the upcoming hearings set for June 10, three days later.

[Marcus Parks]

So he's just like, I did it, did it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Of course, the judge did this out of sympathy. And this was extremely fortuitous for Alec because this was the hearing in which Mark Tinsley had compelled Alec to produce his financial record records. This may have actually been a third motive for the murders. He might have wanted to produce sympathy to buy time. Figure out some other way of getting out of this.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, because now he's so down the oxy hole, he has no. He is just a full monster at this point.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. But investigators were not the only people who were looking at Alec a bit sideways after the murder of his wife and son. Seems like people in the Murdoch circle figured that it might be a good idea to let Randy the III know just before he died, just how big of a piece of his son Alec really was. As Randy III lay on his actual deathbed, a visitor who knew about Alex money juggling told Randy III that Alec had asked him for two loans in the weeks before the murders for no less than $600,000.

[Marcus Parks]

Jesus Christ.

[Edwin Arroyave]

After Randy III was told about this and was told about the murder of his daughter in law and grandson, he supposedly grabbed the lapel of his visit jacket, pulled him close, and in full Southern drama form said, quote, what has.

[Marcus Parks]

Become of this family?

[Edwin Arroyave]

You are my number one guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come, please bring me to the brothel.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Let this be God. Unfortunately for Andy III was one of the last things he ever said. Because on Thursday, June 10, three days after Maggie and Paul's murder, and coincidentally, on the same day that his son's financial crimes were supposed to be exposed to the entire world, Randolph Murdoch III died at the age of 81 with his family's bull legacy fully and deservedly in tatters.

[Henry Zebrowski]

See, now you failed. That's it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Everything now. Die now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bye, bye, bye, bye now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

The Murdoch double homicide quickly became national news. And before long, the deaths of Steven Smith, Gloria Satterfield and Mallory beach were also being bandied about on Facebook posts, Reddit threads, and of course, podcast galore. Yeah, it was a podcasters feast in these days.

[Marcus Parks]

It really was. It was One of my. It's still one of my favorite stories in the world. And it just kept giving.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. For Alex part, he was continuing to insist that the murders were connected to the outrage over the boat wreck, subtly pointing investigators towards Mallory's boyfriend, Anthony Cook. Maybe you ought to look that Anthony Cook boy. But since there was no evidence to support the outsider theory and there was only evidence that Alec had done it, investigators continued searching for solid proof that Alec was the perpetrator. Because they knew that only a sure fire kill shot was going to put him in prison for good. Ironclad case.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, and if Cook did it, it would have been in the kitchen.

[Marcus Parks]

Funny enough. Funny.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Funny.com sticking to the thing.

[Marcus Parks]

Let's shoot him in the head. Let's drop them. The swamp.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As long as you kill me by dogs, I'm fine with it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

By dogs? You mean like next to dogs or with dogs?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want them to lick me.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, that's cute.

[Marcus Parks]

I would never do that to you.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I never make dogs kill.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, to put even more pressure on Alec Murdoch, investigators announced on June 22 that they had reopened the Steven Smith murder, citing new evidence gathered while investigating the double murder at Moselle. They made sure state in public the Stephen Smith murder and the double murders at Moselle are linked. However, we still don't know what that evidence is or if any evidence ever even existed. It may have just been a tactic, just a ploy to put some pressure on Alec Murdoch.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, the Stephen Smith murder is still open as well.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It is still open and it did, you know, it triggered. I mean they exhumed his body.

[Marcus Parks]

At the very least we found out that he definitely didn't die by being hit by a car.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, that. Well, I mean there's a. Well there is a. There's arguments about like they say, some say that, you know, the autopsy shows that he may have been hit with a side mirror.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, sure, that my very.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then.

[Marcus Parks]

But again that still points to accidental death and then the kids trying to just cover up an accidental death, which I do think while they were doing something nasty, an accidental death happened and then they were doing. And then they just childlike try to cover up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's so rare that someone just sticks only their head into the road.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, once things settled down a bit after Paul and Maggie's funerals, PMPED continued their investigation into Alex finances. Sympathy notwithstanding, By September of 2021, two paralegals at PMPED had found hundreds of checks made out to Alex fake forge account at bank of America. And these paralegals had compiled a damning case accusing Alec of stealing machine millions. They had him dead to rights. And after the case was presented to the partners, all of the partners, even Alex own brother had no choice but to fire Alec. They couched it, however, in Alex Oxy addiction. Because the oxy addiction had only gotten worse and more obvious after Maggie and Paul's death.

[Marcus Parks]

They all use this oxyed addiction as like a cover.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh yeah. No, it was the only thing they had like sweep it away.

[Marcus Parks]

And there's also seem like it almost is.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's like it's an insanity defense almost.

[Marcus Parks]

Because then it's like he wouldn't in his right mind. Yeah. He would have never have done this.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, yeah. So therefore don't send him to jail because he was on oxy. Come on.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Also you're on that much oxy. I mean it's pretty, I guess like the wrong word is impressive that you're able to kill a double murder, you.

[Marcus Parks]

Know, to move that fast.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Hey, we're going to get into it like the whole oxy thing, I mean because while he was an addict, he was what you would call a very functional addict.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

He was also what we said before, he's one of those guys that takes oxy and makes him filled with energy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well the other thing though is that I think like you keep saying that he was gacked out. I think one things the of, of the things that remember he also was diagnosed with adhd. So a lot of his move like constant movements and fidgetiness that's due to the adhd.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm talking about the snorting and the huffing and the lip sucking and that is what he does.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Now that's different in the.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But he's, but he's constant. Like. No, no, look at, look at me. I can't stand still for two seconds.

[Marcus Parks]

No.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And look at the size of my ass.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Here we talked about this. No, it was the snorting. It's the snorting. It's the back drip. You can hear he has a backdrop going on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There's happening when you're crying, you're snorting.

[Marcus Parks]

He's can't. He has no wetness.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. When the, when the cops showed up, man, he was clean.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oxiclean. That was good.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Alex brother was chosen to break the news that Alec was no longer welcome at pmped. Telling Alec that he could resign or be fired. Alec Murdoch though, like he was the David Berkowitz of financial fraud.

[Marcus Parks]

Just said, quote, I always knew I was going to get called eventually. I'm surprised it took y' all that long.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Prick.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, like. But also what he does, it's a humility. It's this thing again, being like, well, that's a little old mistake I made. And I can't believe you guys run up on that one, you know, I.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Mean, it's like there is egg on my face.

[Marcus Parks]

He does this thing.

[Edwin Arroyave]

What is a boy to do?

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, the tangled webs.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Scrambled eggs all over my face. Now, I think that Alec thought that he was just going to walk away from pmped having been fired, and that was it. But the day after Alec was told.

[Marcus Parks]

That's bad enough.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, it's bad enough. But the day after Alec was told to leave, his now former firm called up sled, the South Carolina Law Enforcement division. PMPED laid out everything with Sled to cover their own asses. And that of course, triggered a full criminal investigation into Alec Murdoch.

[Marcus Parks]

Don't forget too. They didn't do anything until the lawyers lost money.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes. This was 9-4-20. They didn't even look into it for a second.

[Marcus Parks]

Couldn't give a what happened to the little children that were. Were paralyzed and the old people that he literally just took all the money from. It was when they finally took money from the inside. And then they had to cover their own asses so it didn't look like they were stealing money too.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, this was September 4, 2021, which ended up being a very eventful day in Alec Murdoch's life for multiple reasons. On this day, Alec Murdoch also made his infamous call to his cousin Fast Eddie to engage in activities involving firearms that are still still somewhat of a mystery. So according to Fast Eddie himself, Alec called him up and met him on the road. After making a bit of small talk, Alex straight up asked Fast Eddie to shoot him in his big dumb potato head because investigators were gonna prove that he was responsible for Maggie and Paul that out at Moselle that night.

[Marcus Parks]

Quote, things just got all up.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Things just got all up. Now Fast Eddie, of course, said, hell no, I ain't gonna shoot you. So Alec said that he was just going to do it himself and he took off. I'm just going to.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I'm just do myself.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't need you to do anything.

[Marcus Parks]

I do it, I'm out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't need anybody else.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, he did that thing. He's like, you know, fast Eddie, we. We're close, right? Like, you know, Eddie, we're. We're like brothers, ain't we? Okay, I'm Going to need you to shoot me in the head. Right? Right now I'm going to need you.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Pardon? Pardon.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right.

[Marcus Parks]

Hey, listen, you see this? What is it missing a bullet hole? I need you to do something about that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Fast Eddie drove after him. But when Fast Eddie caught up to Alec again, Alec had stopped his car on an isolated stretch of road. Alec got out, but was supposedly holding a gun when he did so, acting very erratically.

[Marcus Parks]

Those noodle guys in front of the car sales place.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, Fast Eddie was of course, also armed. So to scare Alec out of shooting himself, Fast Eddie claimed that he. He fired a shot above Alex Head. Because that's. Because that's really. Like when someone is holding a gun, the best thing to do to make them not use the gun is to shoot your gun in the air.

[Marcus Parks]

Hey, listen, kids. Blam, blam, blam. I'm gonna need everybody to calm down. All right, everybody. Blam, blam, blam.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I mean, it does work in every western. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

But it's because that's all Fast Eddie has seen. Fast Eddie's never dealt with this before.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was fast on the draw.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, he had to be. I don't think he was. It sound like all this was a slow rollout.

[Edwin Arroyave]

When he fired the shot above Alex Head, Fast Daddy said that Alec fell like a fainting goat and he hit his head on some rocks on the side of the road.

[Marcus Parks]

He absolutely did, too.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And after that, Fast Eddie pretty much said this and he just left.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, he was just sitting like, well, this is stupid.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, for three seconds, he was so up that he thought he was dead.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah, of course. He was just like, oh, my God. Heaven is just like Hampton County.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It sucks.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, that story is just dumb enough to be true. But if that is indeed what happened, then the knock on Alex Head must have restored his will to live, because Alec Murdoch immediately found a way to spin this to his advantage.

[Marcus Parks]

Every single thing in his life, he spins, spins to his advantage.

[Edwin Arroyave]

See, after Fast Eddie left, Alec called 911 and told the dispatcher that he'd been on the side of the road with a flat tire when a young man with really, really short hair, really, really short hair had driven up and shot him in the head. Now, absolutely nobody believed Alex's story for a multitude of reasons.

[Marcus Parks]

When this news. When this hit the news, I'll always remember the day inside stories when this hit the news and I was like, this is incredible. This is one of the. This is such an amazing turn of events.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I remember, remember, you did like, you Ran into my office and you were.

[Marcus Parks]

Like, he faked, committed suicide. If your job is shoot him, fake and shoot himself with that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

There were no bullet holes in his car. And the wound on his head was so superficial that it just needed to be cleaned and bandaged.

[Marcus Parks]

Have you seen it?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't look like a bowl of grace. It looks like he fell on some rocks.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it looks like. Yeah, he's got gravel marks.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. But even though everyone gave him just a huh, sure. Whenever he told the story, Alec still gave a description of the so called shooter to a sketch artist. And it just so happened that the person that Alec described looked a hell of a lot like Anthony Cook, Mallory Beach's boyfriend. And he came up with that shit like in fucking ten minutes. Like that he's gonna. Fuck it. That he's gonna. He fell on the side of the road. He asked his cousin to shoot him in the head. But you know, he missed. His cousin left and he's like, I'm bleeding. Wait a minute.

[Marcus Parks]

God damn it, I'm bleeding. What would Pat Noswalt say?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Improv, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is when you just. The first thing to describe someone who just tried to kill you is short hair. Really really short hair. Really really short hair. Not the height, not their skin color.

[Marcus Parks]

But you know what?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I.

[Marcus Parks]

You know what I think he did.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Say he's a white fella.

[Marcus Parks]

You know what?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'll give you.

[Marcus Parks]

I'll give him one. The only piece of credit it'll give Alec. He didn't just put it on some random black guy. He had every. He definitely could have, didn't.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He didn't. Yeah, he didn't.

[Marcus Parks]

He really could have. You could have ruined a whole. But you remember when they sent that? The sherry papini?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

The whole thing, like, you know, making them go interrogate every single Mexican lady within 150 miles. Like what she did.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

So, you know, in a way that's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Way it's kind of fine.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, I guess there is that.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good to know he's not racist.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, he is, but I think way now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Once Alec was at the hospital, he pressured an employee to borrow their phone and he very stupidly used that phone to call Fast Eddie. This suspicious call after Alex suspicious behavior led sled to search Fast Eddie's house where they found a ledger of alleged drug deals that had Alec all over it.

[Marcus Parks]

Why is he writing these down? Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec.

[Henry Zebrowski]

5000 Oxy.

[Marcus Parks]

Many many pills for illegal oxy. For Alex.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Alex. 10,000 pills. Getting more. Need to order more hoxie. For Alex.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's so funny to listen to like Fast Eddie talk now because he. Because he's got. He's such a idiot. Because he's. I mean, his trial.

[Marcus Parks]

He's a groundskeeper, you know, like, no.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Fast Eddie was just like. He's like a mechanic, but he's. But the thing is that at the very least you should know that if you have a trial coming up in the future, do not do a documentary talking about the crimes that you were accused of.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Tell it to Karen Reed.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, I know, but Fast Eddie's like on the Netflix documentary. Yeah. You know what they say? I was a drug dealer. I wasn't no drug dealer. Like, you know, every once in a while I get an envelope and I'd shake it and it sound like, you know, like a rattlesnake. You know it sound like a rattlesnake.

[Marcus Parks]

Cause you got that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's just like I thought maybe the pills in there, but I didn't think it was pilled in there. And then I just threw it all in the back. But I just. Every once in a while I go to an airstrip and I pick up a big box from this little plane. And I didn't know there was anything in it. I didn't, I didn't check. I didn't check on nut. I didn't ask no questions.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I was selling maracas.

[Marcus Parks]

One of my favorite things too. That's also the one where he was just like. Now I asked Alec, is this money laundering? And he said no. Yeah, yeah, he said no. And I said, I believe it would ever work.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Valid.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, I believed him. Well, Sled also subpoenaed Fast Eddie's bank records and added the hundreds of checks written to Fast Eddie from Alec for the extremely suspicious amounts, just under $10,000 to the ever growing investigation into Alex financial crimes. And so with Fast Eddie's checks in the mix and Alex supposed attempted murder, bringing the Murdoch name into the news once more, Sled finally announced that there was a full criminal investigation into Alex funds. Specifically, they were investigating the death of housekeeper Gloria Satterfield and the handling of her estate. And with the confirmation that Alec Murdoch had not only stolen from needy clients, but had also profited off the death of his housekeeper, the news media turned against Alec Murdoch completely. Not even Fox News is coming to his aid. This time the final humiliation came and Alec was sued by pmped, who had no choice but to pay back all of the money that Alec had stolen from their clients. Eventually, the firm dissolved and reformed without the Murdoch name, which effectively erased the nearly century long legacy that Alec Murdoch's crooked family had worked so hard and so sleazily to build.

[Marcus Parks]

So that prison call, when he gets the word that they're changing the name of pmped, he's like, oh, I don't know why they had to go all the trouble of that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And you're like, again, you just don't understand that you're a multiple murderer, you psychopath.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And Randy four.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Gotta be so fucking mad.

[Marcus Parks]

Ruined everything.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Because I mean, I remember Alec has three brothers, you know, like, there's Randy iv, there's John Marvin, there's another one floating around out there.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, you gotta. John Marvin suck my dick.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, that's actually very. A personal thing for someone to do.

[Marcus Parks]

It really is it quite intimate. I should think about that. Trust him to do that for me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I don't know. Actually, you should think about that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think it'd be an enjoyable experience for you, actually.

[Marcus Parks]

You know what, you're right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Personally, I'm. I'm married. The only person who can do that for me is my wife.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Legally, John Marvin should suck Randy for's dick.

[Marcus Parks]

I see that. Okay. That's where my money should go.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Okay.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, with all this hanging over Alex.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Head, why do you think they call him Buster?

[Marcus Parks]

Exactly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We got. I'm sorry, Marcus.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's fine. With all this hanging over Alex Head, he brought attorney Dick Harpootlian back into the fold, along with, with attorney Jim Griffin to defend him. Harputlian and Griffin managed to get Alec into rehab by blaming all of his crimes on his oxy addiction. But as soon as Alec got out of rehab, he was arrested for his financial crimes.

[Marcus Parks]

Finally.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, well, you know, at least they let him go through rehab.

[Edwin Arroyave]

They did. Yeah. Well, I mean, and that was very controversial in itself because they let him go to rehab out of state. He's still getting these, like, small favors being done for him here and there. But the favors that they have all have to call in. They are dwindling very quickly.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, it's all, it's all running out now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec was indicted on 48 counts pertaining to his financial crimes. In November of 2021, with the Murdoch name in tatters, his bond was set too high for him to pay. I think it was 7 million. So Alec was sent to the Richland County Jail. Incredibly, though, after Alec got his bearings, he actually seemed to enjoy jail. As author John Glatt put it, Alec was a lifelong hustler who adapted easily to life. Life behind Bars where Alec was dealing with million dollar settlements on the outside just a year prior. He was now haggling with criminals using honey buns and pop tarts. But the principles were basically the same. Alec even bragged in jailhouse phone calls to his surviving son, Buster, how he had mastered the jail's barter economy. Buster listened honestly, sounding both bored and embarrassed as his father boasted about winning St six soups, four beef sticks, and a bunch of crackers for betting on NFL games with other prisoners.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's great, Diddy.

[Marcus Parks]

Now tell me, can you kill me next?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to die, Diddy.

[Marcus Parks]

Can you please shoot me?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I will be. I am saying, when I was in jail, I was very surprised at how little they all wanted to watch football.

[Marcus Parks]

We talked about this. And they watch cops.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, they watch cops and they want to. And they love Smallville. And there's something we talk about almost.

[Marcus Parks]

As a sleepover vibe sometimes if you're in jail. No. Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But not where Alex. Alec was. Because he was with the violent guys.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. I also.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, actually, at this point, he's not quite with the violent guys, is he? Because he's in the jail for financial crimes right now. Yeah. So he's. He isn't. But he is in gen pop because when he first got in, he got into a. He got a black eye because he got into a fight with the guy over a weight machine. And then he was put into the medical wing as like kind of to keep him away from the other prisoners. And he like told Dick Harpoon. He's like, you know, I kind of got a little soft, but I bet I could take some of these guys in this medical wing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

You're like, these guys are all just. They're all completely delusional. He's also does a call with John Marvin where he's just like talking about how hard it is for him to get his ibuprofen and he needs to get more ibuprofen because he's hit his ibuprofen limit. And he's got shoulder issues because he's working out all the time. You see him now, he's lost all that weight. Looks great, right? And he. That's the problem is that he needs his brother to put money in another guy's commissary so that he could get him to buy him ibuprofen for him, which is also a crime. He's. So he's already breaking. He's breaking all the jail rules over the phone, willy nilly.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. But as the months ticked by with Alec, in jail awaiting trial for his financial crimes sled, was still doing everything they could to find evidence that would form a strong enough case to finally indict Alec in the murders of Paul and Maggie Murdoch. See, they still had Paul's phone, but they were afraid they'd be locked out permanently if they tried too many codes. Eventually, one of the detectives reached out to the the Secret Service for help, but the agent on the other side said, just try the little idiot's birthday. It's always a birthday with these guys. And sure enough, when they finally said, fuck it, and just punched 0414 into Paul's phone, voila. Phone unlocked. And the evidence they needed was found almost immediately.

[Marcus Parks]

And that's all. Like, Alec is just sitting there being like, is my. How dumb's my son? Yeah, he's sitting there wondering, gauging, how stupid is my son? What is he going to do? What is he going to do to fuck this up? You know, I mean, like, that stuff style, like, you're like. And then I bet you there was a hot second where he's like, I might actually get away with this.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. At the very least, you know, like, just going to have to deal with the financial crimes, not going to have to deal with the murders, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know, Alec was pissed off as hell when he found out that code was. Was his birthday. He's like, I should have tried it. I should have told. I should have told that idiot.

[Marcus Parks]

Or he's sitting there, he's like, can't remember his birthday. Or he's sitting there just like.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, unbeknownst to Alec, Paul had recorded a video at the dog kennel minutes before the murder. Paul had tried to facetime with his friend Rogan to show Rogan his dog's tail injury just a couple of minutes before Alec killed everyone. But since the reception was bad, Rogan had only gotten audio, which is when Rogan heard Alec in the background. But after the FaceTime failed, Paul took a video to send later. And while investigators watched the video of Paul trying to get a good shot of the dog, dog's tail wound, they heard, much to their great relief, Maggie shouting in the background about her dog Bubba catching a bird. Then finally, they heard big old pus face himself, Alec Murdoch calling after Bubba.

[Marcus Parks]

As well, with his extremely distinctive voice.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Come here, Bubba.

[Marcus Parks]

Come here, Bubba.

[Edwin Arroyave]

This proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alec Murdoch was indeed at the scene after he said over and over again that he wasn't. Finally, though, investigators got one more piece of strong evidence. Months after Sending away Alex shirt to a crime lab for blood testing. The results finally came back positive. Microscopic blood spray, invisible to the naked eye, was indeed found on Alex shirt. Which meant that even if he had not been the one to pull the trigger, he had been there when they were killed.

[Marcus Parks]

He was wearing some kind of covering.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And so on July 14, 2022, over a year after the murders were committed, Alec Murdoch was finally charged with the double homicide of his wife and son.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Get him now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Dick Harpoutlian had gamely decided to stay by Alex side until the end. After Alec was charged with murder along with the dozens of other crimes, Harpootlian agreed to defend him in this case as well, for, of course, another sizable retainer he's getting. His murder is a. That's a bigger charge than financial crimes. And so it was Harputlian and attorney Jim Griffin at Alex side when his trial began in January of 2023. Appropriately, a portrait of Alex grandfather had to be removed from the courtroom during the trial. And that portrait of old Buster was never hung again.

[Marcus Parks]

Burn it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hopefully one day they'll hang Alec.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Though now Harpoulian's original defense rested on Alex claim that he had not gone out to the kennels that night prior to finding the bodies. And Dick had reportedly believed Alec when he said, I didn't kill nobody. I was never out there. I don't nothing out and I don't know what happened.

[Marcus Parks]

And that was Dick's whole thing. I actually kind of. Again, I don't feel bad for him, but I do think that he was missed. He also was taken in.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He was. And so was Jim Griffin. Like that, like the way that Jim Griffin talks about in the first.

[Marcus Parks]

You're like fans of Alec in the.

[Edwin Arroyave]

First season of the Netflix, Netflix documentary before he was charged with the murders. Like the way Jim Griffin, like, he had to have felt like such a. With how much, how much confidence he had talking about Alec Murdoch's innocence.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's his job.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, of course. But the way it went down was wonderful.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Honestly, it makes me want to hire him.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. I don't think Dick or Bootle is a bad person to call if you need help.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Lawyer.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

If you got a viewer. No, we are not against defense attorneys here.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

You have to be properly defended in court. We know that more people, like people are innocent and go to jail. It happens. And it's because they have bad lawyers. So you need to have a good lawyer no matter what side you're on.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But reportedly, old Dick was stunned into silence when he was Shown Paul's video, the one where Alec can clearly be heard calling for Bubba in the background. And so Harputlian was reduced to just saying over and over again that Alec, he just didn't do it. And he was hoping that the jury would just kind of say, all right. And during his opening arguments, Harpoutlian told the jury, quote, as you sit right.

[Marcus Parks]

There and right now, when you look at him, you have to believe he's innocent. He didn't do it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So basically, Dick's defense was just, look, look at that face, that sweet, sweet face.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So pretty.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I ask you, is that the face of a murderer?

[Marcus Parks]

People say I got the eyes of a cockatiel. They say that I've got the lifeless, lifeless eyes of a plush doll covered in blood.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I would say that's true. No, but if you do give him the death penalty, I want to make sure we do shoot him.

[Marcus Parks]

We gotta shoot him. You know, it's a bit of a.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Pet issue of mine that we must shoot him in the head if he does get the death penalty.

[Marcus Parks]

But listen, Alec, I gotta just say, honestly, it's way more humane this way. It's much better than the electric chair.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Think of the money the state will save.

[Marcus Parks]

Think about shooting you in the head.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It costs $40 in electricity to kill someone with the electric chair. That is $40. The bullets $15.

[Marcus Parks]

Easy to do. And we're using the bullets anyway.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Lethal injection will not work on you. You could take too much oxy.

[Marcus Parks]

It's gon got two. He's got thin veins.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, the solicitor in charge of prosecuting this case, Creighton Waters, didn't just have an amazing southern lawyer name. This is Clayton water, solicitor, the 14th district.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Good. He wasn't on the boat.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, that's right.

[Marcus Parks]

Dude, that guy's a murderer.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes. Also godamn good at his job.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And he absolutely wiped the floor with Dick Harputlan and Jim Griffin. He worked 12 hours a day, every day to make sure, sure that Alec Murdoch went down.

[Marcus Parks]

He does this thing too in his cross examination where he's like, well, I'm gonna try to save you some time here. And he's just like, we're not saving any time here. We're gonna do this as long as we want to do this. We're gonna sit here, you're not gonna cut the time down. No one's gonna. And it's like awesome. It's watching him squirm.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

That should never put himself on the stand. He really thought that his Lex Luthor looking Face was going to win in that room. That's hilarious.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But it has so many times in the past. I know, but that's what he's good at. Convincing a jury to fucking let someone off.

[Marcus Parks]

But it's also the first time he's killed his family. So when he makes his next family and he kills them, he'll know way better.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's true. Well, besides the kennel video and the bloody shirt, Waters had also managed to get a hold of Murdoch's GPS data from his suv, which tracked Alex every movement on the night of the murder. But what really sunk Alec was a total unforced error. A mistake made by megalomania acts the world over in criminal trials. Against the strong advice of his attorneys, Alec Murdoch took the stand in his own murder trial, where he was ripped to shreds by Creighton Waters. When asked about why he lied so much specifically about the kennel video, Alec claimed that it was the oxy that made him all fuzzy. That one lie simply led to another. And about his trail of lies, Alec famously said on the stand, quote, oh.

[Marcus Parks]

What a tangle web we weave.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And he's. Yeah, well, he just said it so casually, you know, you know, I'll go just, oh, what a tangle web we weave. It's just, you know, I lied, whatever.

[Marcus Parks]

Because he's trying to act like again, it's this minimizing of his involvement.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, always minimizing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Whenever someone says that in a trial, they should just get beat by the bailiff, he's gonna get it in jail.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I mean, the judge, when he sentenced him, he brought it up and he's like, you said, oh, what I tangled web we weave. Oh, he just, he hated it so much, the judge actually broug in the sentencing.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, it's because this idea again, it's this cutesy folklore thing. You killed your family.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. No, no, folksiness does not. Folksiness has no place in a murder trial. But when Alec Murdoch said, oh, what a tangled web we weave, Creighton Waters made Alec detail that tangled web. He made him talk about his financial crimes. He made him talk about all the bad that happened to his clients as a result of his financial crimes. He even made him talk about his habit of using his volunteer solicitors badge to get out of drunk driving tickets. But most of all, was able to prove that Alex claimed that he was fuzzy because of the OxyContin that didn't hold water. See, while Alec was an addict, he was a fully functional addict who was regarded as an extremely competent lawyer throughout his decades. Of addiction. By the end, Alex's attempt at going up to charm a courtroom one last time backfired completely and served only to shatter any remaining credibility that that Alec may have had.

[Marcus Parks]

Good.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Now, Alice, defense was frail at best. Their strongest witness, for example, was a forensic engineer who claimed that the angle of the shotgun blast that killed Paul would have made it impossible for the 6 foot 4 Alec Murdoch to be the killer. Which discounted the fact that man is capable of crouching.

[Marcus Parks]

Not both.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, instead this expert insisted that the shooter could have been no time taller than 5 foot 2. Which to put it into perspective, Ariana Grande's height.

[Marcus Parks]

What'd she do?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Where she.

[Marcus Parks]

Where was she?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Also the Olsen twins.

[Marcus Parks]

Where were they? Yeah, where were those little girls?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Los Angeles probably.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh wow. New York.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Also New York.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I heard they're in the Village. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow. Good old. Nice.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Now, by the closing arguments, Dick Harpootlian was said to be a shell of his former self. As Valerie Bow Power Line put it so well. Harpoutlian sat at the defense table, quote, as motionless as a sphinx while the case failed around him. Jim Griffin was therefore left to close, but couldn't do any better than saying that the jury should vote not guilty because the state didn't have enough evidence to 100% prove Alec Murdoch's guilt.

[Marcus Parks]

We're having. Apparently there's a big issue currently with jury educations about the idea of what a shadow of a doubt means.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, it's why Casey Anthony went for yes.

[Marcus Parks]

And there's. Yeah, they're having a problem telling him. It's being like, no, it doesn't. We're now going on to the other side just because there isn't a picture of him and video of him actively shooting them and then their dead bodies, them standing up saying, Alec Murdoch murdered me. That's not how it always is going to be.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. But since the case was so weak, the jury was incredibly quick to deliver a verdict. Only one juror had to be swayed. But not because Harpootlean and Griffin had made their case. Instead, this juror flat out could not believe that a person could kill their own family. She thought that it was literally impossible.

[Marcus Parks]

This is why it's like, these are our peers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a good pick for our bootleg.

[Marcus Parks]

It is. It's very good pick for our pool.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That one's mine. I told you we wouldn't pick her.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh yeah, I knew that would be good. I could tell by the way she held that tea cozy coast to her body.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But after the rest of the Jurors assured this sweet moron that it was indeed very possible and that it in fact happened every single day somewhere on this earth.

[Marcus Parks]

God, you think the idea of teaching her single handedly every single incident of familiacide. Yeah, that's got to be amazing. Andrea Yates. Yeah, there's just, you can be like.

[Edwin Arroyave]

This one, this one Ronald Gene Simmons and it's just like Chris Watts. Yeah, Chris Watts and Chris Benoit and Chris.

[Marcus Parks]

Chris Bad name.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Alec Murdoch was finally found guilty for the murders of his wife and son and was subsequently sentenced to life in prison.

[Marcus Parks]

Three hour jury deliberation.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Three hours. I mean that's incredible. And an hour of that was them convincing some moron that yes, family members do kill each other.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I wonder why they didn't give him the death penalty.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I am actually wondering that myself.

[Marcus Parks]

I do believe it is. There are aggravating circumstances that have to be hit. There are things that they do with like, they flesh it out. And I bet you was a part of the sentencing where they, they kind of talk about like, like aggravating circumstances. Like, you know how when, like one of our favorite things when someone murders somebody and then they like pull out their uterus and chews with it and then like plays with, make their, their face a puppet and stuff like that. Yeah, I know. The body, they rape the body a bunch. They'll be like, yeah, I'm aggravated now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, yeah. And then that's aggravating circumstance.

[Marcus Parks]

But if you just murder your family, I might be right. Side stories, potl gmail Com. But I'm pretty sure he just didn't hit. And he didn't hit certain factors that activate the death penalty.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think it's the last break that he ever got.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Probably might be. Now, as far as the peanut gallery in Alec Murdoch's life went, his banker Russell Lafitte negotiated a plea deal for his role in the embezzlement of funds and could be released from prison as early as 2027.

[Marcus Parks]

You're free to sail the seas again.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And I find the treasure under the X.

[Edwin Arroyave]

His other partner in embezzlement, however, Corey Fleming, decided to fight. That was the wrong move. And Corey Fleming was sentenced just last year to pay $3.75 million in restitution, in addition to a term of 13 years in prison.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Unlucky number.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That it is.

[Marcus Parks]

It is.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Those, of course, were Alex partners in his financial crimes. Again and again the question arises as to whether or not Alec Murdoch had any partners in the murders, specifically in the cleaning up of the murders. And while they cannot prove it, the prosecution did believe that someone helped Alec by at the very least, disposing of the guns.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Somebody had to. They didn't find him.

[Edwin Arroyave]

They found him nowhere. Now, you'd think the likeliest suspect here would be Fast Eddie. But I don't think Alec would have trusted him with something this important.

[Marcus Parks]

No idea.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hiding on me Slow.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I think that Fast Eddie, it literally is just like the most I can do is pills. The most you really want to fucking depend on me on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I want to do this for you. But you do not want me to do this for you.

[Marcus Parks]

You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to help you by not helping you.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Instead. I personally think, and again, this is just my opinion, that Buster was the other person involved here. And possibly John Marvin.

[Marcus Parks]

See, I still feel like John Marvin was top position. Buster. I think Buster.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know if Buster's the sharpest crayon in the box. I don't think he's able to do it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, listen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Listen to this.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I think Buster, I've known.

[Marcus Parks]

He's an Eric Trump.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I've known you. Yeah. I've known many Busters over the years. He's not an idiot. He's not stupid. I think Paul was probably dumber than Buster was.

[Marcus Parks]

Fucking little rat.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, I think Buster's just kind of lazy. And he. Like you said, he was handed everything his whole life. So when it came time to actually do work, he didn't know how to fucking do it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know, he just coasted. Ben, listen to this. Let's just. Let's get into this for a second. If you'll remember, Buster's life was pretty much over after he got kicked out of law school. And the only thing he had left in this life was what his father could offer him by being a Murdoch in the low country.

[Marcus Parks]

That could have been quite a bit.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Could have been Buster therefore had motive to do whatever his father asked him to do.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

As for proof, I got none. Nothing. Bupkis. But there was. There is a very suspicious jailhouse phone call in which Alex seems to be asking Buster to go out to Moselle to do something. We just don't know what. This call, by the way, was made after Alex was arrested for his financial crimes, but before he was charged with murder. So if there was any evidence out at Moselle, like, say, the murder weapons sled. Hadn't found anything just yet. Let's listen to this call.

[E]

What you doing? Nothing at Greenfield.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I got you.

[E]

Is Brooklyn with you? She is. Well, good. Y' all hunting? We're going to this afternoon. Let me tell you what you ought to do, Buster. I think the damn theaters were full over there, Moselle, if you felt like going back there. I bet with nothing going on, I bet there's deer all over them things. What's that gonna do for me? What's that gonna do for me? Kill a deer. I'm not going hunting out there. I don't blame you. I'm just letting you know. Buster, also, I wanted to tell you this. I just remembered this. You know they replanted those sunflowers. Do you have any interest in hunting that field?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No.

[E]

Do you care if I let Jim do it? No.

[Marcus Parks]

You sure?

[E]

Yes. You'll be coming to call you if we hunt. Well, I should be out by then. Jim who? Jim Griffin. Let him hunt deer out there or. What are you talking about? No, I'm talking about. I didn't know if you wanted to hunt, go. If you do, then I want you to do it. If not, then I'm gonna let him do it. He knows how to facilitate a dove hunt. What? I said, he knows how to facilitate a dove hunt. Well, I mean, you know, I don't think it would be. I hadn't really. I don't know. Did he just. Do you want a dove hunt out there? No, not at all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh.

[E]

Good boy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

All right. Now, that call could be interpreted in multiple ways. You know, it could be Alex speaking in code. What's dove hunting? What's deer hunting? It also could be Buster being simply reluctant to return to the place where his mother and brother were murdered. Just so he could bag a deer.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, at his father's insistence.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But there are some very interesting sentences, some very interesting things that Buster says.

[Marcus Parks]

For example, how to facilitate a dove hunt.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's a big one. Let me get to that here in a second. First one. What's that gonna do for me? How. That's a very interesting. Like when he asked, like, you know, what do you get? Like, you want to go out and hunt deer? Because he's telling them that the deer feeders have been full out in Moselle. No one's been out there. There's probably a ton of deer everywhere. You can go out there. And he says, what's that gonna do for me? Which is a weird thing to say. That's a very strange thing to say. Sure shit. Sounds to me like Alec wanted to do something that Buster didn't want to do. And when Buster said he didn't want to do It. It sounded like Alec asked if Buster cared if Alex other attorney Jim Griffin, did it instead. And also what gets me is the question, does Jim know how to facilitate a dove hunt? I don't know what the fuck that means. I grew up going on dove hunts. I've been on dozens of dove hunts. I've been fucking shot on a dove hunt.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You just shoot the doves. Right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

But the only thing you need to facilitate a dove hunt is a ship, shotgun and a box of shells. You don't need any. You don't have to facilitate a dove hunt. You walk into a field. Drunk teenagers do it every day. You walk into a field with a gun and you shoot dove. That's it.

[Marcus Parks]

Also, a prison calls an audio medium just like this, which you don't hear in an audio medium, is something like this, which is you not hearing it because you're listening to a podcast.

[Edwin Arroyave]

What are you talking. No one has any idea what you're doing right now.

[Marcus Parks]

It's exactly why it's because it's a prison call. So if it's on a prison call, you can hold a piece of paper up against the window with the thing written on it and no one's going to know what it is that you're saying.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He calling him from home.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, but they all. Or there are also calls where he.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Goes in and this is, this is a phone call.

[Marcus Parks]

But there are con. But I'm saying before this, you can communicate visually on the prison call that can allow them then set up other things later on so you can start. This is the code. Yeah, you can go and talk about the code.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Code for dove hunt.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, they did a Corey we're seeing right now in the Corey Richards trial. She just got nailed for that because she was going into the prison calls hold doing witness tampering by holding it up against the fucking plate glass.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So what, you think the. The guns are in the fucking Sunflower field?

[Marcus Parks]

I think they're in the river.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, I mean, the Sunflower Field does come up on the day of the murder. They were out. Was it Paul and Alec? The Snapchat video that Paul took, it was in the Sunflower field. So they were in the Sunflower Field on the day of the murder. The Sunflower. I mean, who knows what's out in the Sunflower field? But he was out there. Alec was out there on the day of the murder.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You like to believe they searched it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You'd like to believe they did, and they probably did. But who knows? I mean, there might be something out there. Maybe deer feeders, like code for something, you know, maybe there's something there in the deer feed. Who knows? But it does sound extraordinarily suspicious. There's just a lot of suspicious here.

[Marcus Parks]

Too many family members have been murdered. Yes. And this to be an innocuous phone call.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And too many family members have been connected to and or convicted of murder in this family for you not to listen to their phone calls with a little bit of suspicion. Like they earned it.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I'm not gonna give him credit now.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, they earned that suspicion. Now, while it is unlikely that Buster is ever going to be investigated or even questioned in the murders of his mother, his brother, or Stephen Smith for that matter, his life is still, for all intents and purposes, over the murderous Murdoch legacy that Buster was counting on. The one that Buster's father and his father's father had used to coast through life. It's just ruined. Tasteless and bloody is the Wham bam, thank you, ma' am T shirt that Paul Murdoch was wearing on the night that Alec Murdoch killed him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I gotta get one of those.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And all of this happened because one family decided that they were the kings of their own little slice of America. But in America, as it's been since 1776, men who believe they are kings always, and I mean always, get one what's coming sooner or later. Just like Alec Murdoch did.

[Marcus Parks]

Suck my dick. Suck my d.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I see what you did there.

[Edwin Arroyave]

See what you did there.

[Marcus Parks]

Great. Oh, you can go right over to the te public and get yourself a Wham bam thank you bam shirt.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, Go to spread shirt and get the wham bam, don't get that shirt.

[Marcus Parks]

That's spread shirt.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Awful spread. Don't get the wham bam, thank you, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If you want, the only place to get that shirt is from a merch booth at a Nugent concert.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Or Spencer's Gifts. If you don't have a Spencer's Gifts local, you can't buy that shirt. You might be able to buy, I don't know if Gad Zooks is still open. You can maybe buy it there.

[Marcus Parks]

All Paul ever did was finger somebody. Yeah, well, you know. What a great fucking series, buddy.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, you, everyone.

[Marcus Parks]

Really good work.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Thank you. You as well.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Proud of you. I'm glad. We could probably never talk about these motherfuckers again. Until he gets killed in prison.

[Marcus Parks]

We'll see what Buster does.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Or until the appeal. Yeah, but we. We never know. I mean, as far the last I checked, Buster still like, he lives, I think, in Beaufort Buford County.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He just got married.

[Edwin Arroyave]

He got married to Brooklyn third.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. And his friends. We actually got many messages saying that they played golf around Buster. They know where G. Buster goes shopping. They know where he goes to gym. They know all the kind of stuff. So Buster's being very much so watched.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's not returned to law school either?

[Edwin Arroyave]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

I wonder why.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, he's got to live somewhere. Somewhere, you know.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Well, hopefully he gets into politics.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, let's. Let's hope so. Buster Murdoch, our next Attorney General.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We need some good Democrats in there.

[Marcus Parks]

We get Buster Murdoch. Kyle Rittenhouse. You can finally get me to the voting polls, guys.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Come on.

[Marcus Parks]

Don't you want me at the booth? Don't you want me there? My favorite guys. Nothing I love better than a bunch of tubby little that's ruining life. For other good tubby, come to patreon.com podcast and you could pay money to join us live for Last stream on the left 6pm PST. Some things have changed in our Patreon. One thing it has not changed is that you could still absolutely get Last Podcast on the Left and side stories ad free podcast form on Patreon. Yeah, you're also going to get the new video of our brand new movie podcast that Ed and I are doing. Last letter box on the left. That will be the audio. Video will be on SiriusXM. The video will be on Patreon. You're gonna get that. You're getting a new watch along series with Ed Larson. And then the new top tier 25 givers to our Patreon can submit videos that we will show. And then we are going to shoot a an old, wholly separate last podcast Last Stream on the Left After Dark scenario in which we will be doing it just for the Patreon. So you'll be able to watch those videos on your own. And they don't go to YouTube. Nobody else gets it. It's for you.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No, I'm just gonna start putting the last blank on the left. Last prolapse on the last.

[Marcus Parks]

Wait till I get my last colonoscopy on Last hemorrhoid. Nothing changes with the stream. The stream is exactly the same. It's going to YouTube. People were asking about that. It's going to the same this video you're going to see on Netflix. Yeah, you know, check that out. All right. Check that out. It's right there. Side stories still coming out. Everything exactly the same. Go check out our YouTube pages for LPN TV. Someplace underneath LPN Roman to see no dogs in space and the foreign report. You can still go over there. Go check it out.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Check it out. And don't forget to come see us on tour. We're going to be going all sorts of cities over this year. This year of our Lord. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Tomorrow you can see us in Philadelphia at the Met. Get your freaking heinies out there. That's a big ass cedar. We sold a ton of tickets, but we still got a couple left. Come and see us there. I. I can't wait. You know that's where they filmed 12 Monkeys.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Really?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, in the shitty theater place. Yeah, that's the Met.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

How cool is that? And then they fixed it all up and now we get to perform there.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, yeah, no, we played. We played in a bunch of shooting galleries over the years. Gentrification. It's real.

[Marcus Parks]

It's kind of.

[Henry Zebrowski]

February 28th, Austin, Texas. March 13th, Indianapolis. April 25th, Cincinnati. May 29th, Pittsburgh. June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan. July 17th, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And July 18th, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. That's where that place is. Also there's a whole bunch of shows that side stories added a bunch of shows. Just go to last podcast on the left.com to find out what shows we're doing by you. And if you want to see me do stand up, go to anytoons.com to look for all dates there. We love you so much. I can't wait, wait to meet you and shake your hand. Because I just want to shake your hand.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I want to shake your hand.

[Marcus Parks]

All right, guys. Well, hell's eaten.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Hail your hand.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. And hail Bird Luger. Kevin Barnett.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Our boy. Seven years today, man. Christ, I love you, man. I miss you so much.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, we do, man. Every day he's up in my room. It's good to see him looking down upon me.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's right. I like. I slapped Julie's ass for him today.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Really Great. That's nice. That's nice. I'm gonna go home and play some Dark Souls.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hell yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

For him. It's a great idea.

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