Side Stories: Movie Stories III

Summary

Last Podcast On The Left: Side Stories: Movie Stories III
Release Date: May 7, 2025
Hosts: Henry Zabrowski, Jackie Zabrowski, Marcus Parks
Sponsor: Amica Insurance, Quint, Fast Growing Trees, IXL, BetterHelp, Mint Mobile, Raycon

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Introduction to Alien Movies

In this episode of Side Stories: Movie Stories III, the hosts delve into the realm of alien-themed films, exploring their nuances, accuracy, and personal impacts. Henry Zabrowski opens the conversation by emphasizing the unique position alien movies hold within the sci-fi and horror genres.

Henry Zabrowski [01:05]:
"Welcome to side stories. Yes. My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Edward Larson. And I'm also working on it."

Defining Alien Movies vs. Superhero Films

The discussion begins with clarifications on what constitutes an alien movie, distinctly separating it from superhero films. The hosts agree that superhero movies, often intertwined with comic book lore, do not fit into their alien-centric narrative for this episode.

Jackie Zabrowski [02:17]:
"I like my superhero movies, but I understand that they have no place in this conversation."

Exploring Notable Alien Films

The trio examines a variety of alien movies, assessing their authenticity and contribution to the genre. They range from classics like "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" to contemporary releases such as "No One Will Save You".

Henry Zabrowski [04:35]:
"I think it's good to talk about Alien movies because I think even amongst sci fi films within the sci fi genre, you would call the Alien film its own part of the genre."

Notable Quotes:

• Marcus Parks [04:37]:
  "Sometimes they lean into discovery."

• Jackie Zabrowski [05:03]:
  "Yeah, that one scared the out of me when I was a kid."

Accuracy and Representation in Alien Films

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the accuracy of alien portrayals in films and how they reflect societal themes. "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is lauded for its realistic approach to alien communication protocols, drawing from actual government research.

Henry Zabrowski [16:17]:
"The idea of using tones like when he does the whole like the talking to the aliens. Right. From a government concept of if we are approached by another species or something from outer space, how do we communicate?"

Jackie Zabrowski [15:24]:
"I still very much, obviously, I like E.T."

Impact of Alien Movies on Personal Lives

The hosts share personal anecdotes about how alien movies influenced their childhood and worldview. Jackie Zabrowski reminisces about watching horror movies with friends during challenging times, finding solace and connection through these films.

Jackie Zabrowski [69:51]:
"And so, like, two friends and we watched horror movies and we. And that's how, like, I related to society from, like, exactly 8 to, like 14."

Genre Evolution and Filmmaking Insights

Henry Zabrowski highlights the importance of understanding film genres for filmmakers, emphasizing that knowing genre conventions allows for creative manipulation and storytelling depth.

Henry Zabrowski [28:26]:
"It really requires, I think, unfortunately, the real education of a filmmaker is watching movies and identifying what are the telltale signs of very specific genres."

Critique of Modern Superhero Films

The hosts express strong opinions against the superhero genre, criticizing its dominance in the film industry and its impact on the quality and diversity of cinematic storytelling.

Henry Zabrowski [52:30]:
"The problem with the movies with. My main issue, truly, is just that. I'm not going to watch 10 movies. To watch one movie."

Jackie Zabrowski [52:31]:
"The problem with the movies with. My main issue, truly, is just that. I'm not going to watch 10 movies. To watch one movie."

Upcoming Interviews and Future Discussions

Looking ahead, the hosts announce an upcoming interview with Whitley Schreiber at Contact in the Desert, hinting at deeper insights into alien abduction narratives.

Jackie Zabrowski [39:13]:
"We're going to interview Whitley Schreiber at Contact in the Desert. Very excited."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In wrapping up, the hosts reflect on the emotional and psychological impacts of alien movies, underscoring their significance beyond mere entertainment. They advocate for a deeper appreciation of genre films and their role in personal and societal contexts.

Henry Zabrowski [68:53]:
"What do the movies mean to you? I think that that's like what we sort of miss sometimes in the age of like."

Jackie Zabrowski [69:47]:
"A lot of people look at it as trash and all that stuff, but it's actually like, they teach you about society."

Highlighted Quotes with Timestamps

• Henry Zabrowski [04:35]:
  "I think even amongst sci fi films within the sci fi genre, you would call the Alien film its own part of the genre."

• Jackie Zabrowski [15:30]:
  "I think Close Encounters is like, if you're like Henry and you're a bigger fan of aliens in general, it's got the lore, all of it."

• Marcus Parks [20:21]:
  "It's a very good breakdown because it's true."

• Henry Zabrowski [28:26]:
  "It really requires... the real education of a filmmaker is watching movies and identifying what are the telltale signs of very specific genres."

• Jackie Zabrowski [29:32]:
  "You know, a lot of times they reflect society, which I think is really cool."

• Marcus Parks [52:38]:
  "Dumb God."

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Closing Remarks

This episode of Side Stories: Movie Stories III offers a comprehensive exploration of alien movies, dissecting their genres, accuracy, and deeper societal implications. The hosts provide insightful critiques and personal reflections, making it a valuable listen for enthusiasts seeking to understand the multifaceted nature of alien-themed cinema.

Transcript

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

There's no place to escape to. This is the last on the left side stories.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. I mean, I want Lois Lane getting her eaten out by the superdog. I want the.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, that's a lot.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I want Superman having sex with the Green Lantern, giving himself four butts. That's the only way I'm watching these movies is that I need multiple. I need the other guys from Wakanda arriving and they're having fun and they're.

[Marcus Parks]

Kissing and they're sucking in their.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Everybody's kissing. I think that also it's like if Spider man had a hole in the suit and he could shoot webs out of his.

[Marcus Parks]

He does have a hole in the suit.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He doesn't shoot webs.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, but they comes on magically. The suit comes on magically. And he's got a hat.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think if he could shoot webs out of the wrist of his suit.

[Marcus Parks]

You got a hole.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You could shoot webs out of the cock of his suit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But he doesn't ever. Because everybody's leaving money on the table. No, it's because they're weak and they're stupid and it's why superhero movies are never going to properly cut the mustard.

[Marcus Parks]

Somebody's upset.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm not upset.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sounds like you're upset.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, this is me having fun.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This is you having fun.

[Marcus Parks]

This is me scared of your fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You should be. Yeah, you should be. Because my fun doesn't leave any stone unturned. My fun does not leave any bridge unburned.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I like my superhero movies, but I understand that they have no place in this conversation.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Exactly.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Because we are talking about movies about aliens today.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Welcome to side stories.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Edward Larson.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, no. I'm so big.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Really good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Thank you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And I'm also working on it. Ed got us all sick. We're all dying here. And we're also sitting here with my fetid, strange little DNA runoff. Jackie Zabrowski.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's me.

[Marcus Parks]

It's me. I'm all gloopy and sloopy. Oh, no. Am I the alien? I'm not. I'm a girl.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But we still don't understand your part.

[Marcus Parks]

No, and you never will. And you have no idea where my tentacles are going to come out from. But don't worry, they always come out at the wrong time.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what I've heard, actually, uteruses do come from Venus.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We plop down in the water. The first woman crawled out of the Indian Ocean. This is true. Yeah. As just a uterus with fins.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Interesting.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then slowly but surely, those fins turned into tits. That turned into a head.

[Marcus Parks]

The most important parts.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. No, tits were first.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, the uterus was first. I mean, obviously.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then you got the boot, which is the butt.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then the head.

[Marcus Parks]

You in the boot.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then the tits.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tits are fourth and fifth all together at once. This is not what today's episode is about.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It could be today's episode.

[Marcus Parks]

I'll talk about utes and boots.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I love you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tell me about it. That's my new store. That's my new western gear story. If you're Newton, you better take a boot. Yes, I. We are actually going to. Uton is what women should call just living. Yeah. We are talking about Alien movies every day.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I. The reason why we're talking about Alien movies is because we are headed towards contact in the desert. And we love film here. We've talked about film several times as a triptych. And I think that you. Eddie, brought this up. I think it's good to talk about Alien movies because I think even amongst sci fi films within the sci fi genre, you would call the Alien film its own part of the genre.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. They lean in the horror sometimes.

[Marcus Parks]

Sometimes. Exactly.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sometimes they lean into discovery. Like. Because, like, for me, the gamut of Alien movies goes from, like, Closer Encounters of the Third Kind to Alien to things like Mac and Me. Yes, for sure. Like that. Like, what was the one with the. The other one with the guy. Gosset Jr. Lou. Oh, L. Gosset, Jr. Enemy. Enemy mind. Another good Alien movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, that one scared the out of me when I was a kid.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's weird. Stargazer or Starman?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Starman.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Which is great.

[Marcus Parks]

Man who fell. Fell to the world.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Fell to Earth.

[Marcus Parks]

Which is. But then that's. Again, this conversation really, it depends on what we're defining alien as here.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So here's what I want to. I want to say, first of all, no comic books, no Marvel, no dc. No, those aliens don't count.

[Marcus Parks]

You're saying that. And you said an up top. You said no superhero movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

But I do have one that I feel like could ebb the both genres about it and that. Yeah, I said ebb. Just go with it. Ebb like it's a web. Okay. Like it's being spread. Like its legs are being spread like a web.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Fuck.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm still thinking about the holes in the webs. Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Webs have legs.

[Marcus Parks]

Meteor Man. Meteor Man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Meteor Man.

[Marcus Parks]

Meteor Man.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's not a superhero movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But it is, though.

[Marcus Parks]

It is a superhero movie, but it is also an Alien movie. But I feel that that is a movie that encompasses both.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Meteor Man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Meteor Man's fun. But Pluto Nash can go fuck.

[Marcus Parks]

Couldn't definitely go fuck.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Pluto Nash can suck my dick.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. But Meteor man is great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That is the. So you decided of all of the films in the history of film, you went back and picked Meteor Man. I love Meteor Man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Is he an alien?

[Marcus Parks]

It is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because he's not an alien. No.

[Marcus Parks]

He touches a comet that comes down. But then here's the thing, okay? This is what my question to you guys is. Is it still an alien?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Marcus Parks]

It is a meteorite that comes down.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It has to be a lion, but it is from outer space. No, it needs to be its own alien. All right.

[Marcus Parks]

It has to be its own alien. I am. Hey, this is a conversation.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, we're talking.

[Marcus Parks]

You're coming in defensive. I'm asking the question because then. Alien, right?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Foreign things coming into your country. Austin Powers, is he an alien?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No. Time travel.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Now we're getting political traveling.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But also an alien.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Looper's not Alien movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's not. No, you're just saying the word. No, no, no.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Some aliens could be us from the future. Henry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Different. But I'm just saying, guys. No, no. We immediately went off. Off the rail here. I'm here. This is not just Alien. Because if it's going to be alien, if it's Star Wars.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No Star Trek.

[Marcus Parks]

Care about those?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, we will. We were doing Immigrant Film.

[Marcus Parks]

I wanted Immigrant Films here.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I would love to do.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We will, but that's not today.

[Marcus Parks]

But I only want to talk about Austin Powers when we do it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But he's also technically a federal employee.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, and he's not.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He doesn't.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He works for the Brits. He's not an American citizen.

[Marcus Parks]

No. He's a British spy.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, but he never swears in.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But most of the movies take place in London.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, Jolio, you have.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You went down the wrong path immediately. At the very top of this.

[Marcus Parks]

You know what it was? It was because last night I received the assignment late. And let's say I had had quite a few hogs legs at this point. I started laughing to myself.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And you are talking about pork and not weed.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, obviously.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm chomping, I'm grabbing and I'm gnashing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She could tell the fat content goes up in her blood when she gets the rosacea.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, baby. And I'm all flush, but not with the horn. I'm flushed with the space. But are we flush with the space balls? And how do you feel about Barf being considered an alien?

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is the thing again, we were trying to say no Star wars either.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think Spaceballs is out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think actually hear about. How about this? Movies that take place in outer space are out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, unless they specifically involve an alien.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They're not an alien in outer space. Mom and dad saved the world.

[Marcus Parks]

But mom and dad save the world. If you think about it, that is human beings then going, so then the humans are the aliens.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It still is a Alien centered film. I would say mom and dad Save the World is an Alien centered film. That is an Alien movie. They're on a. Neighborhood's in Earth and part of it's on Earth and they go up there. That has the. What was it? The child molester and the other guy who's a woman in that.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, Chester. Chester.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Chester. Chester.

[Marcus Parks]

Child molester.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, that's the guy. That's the father.

[Marcus Parks]

Patty Perry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Patty Perkins.

[Marcus Parks]

Patty Perkins.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep. So here's some other aliens.

[Marcus Parks]

These are actual Alien movies, Rip.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And so I typed in Alien film and this is what comes up. Contact Starman, E.T.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Galaxy Quest. Makes sense.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Galaxy Quest. I don't count.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I put. Why?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Because it's in space. They don't ever go to Earth.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, I do sort of. I see what he's saying.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Fantasy film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So you don't.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think it's more like Lord of the rings than E.T.

[Marcus Parks]

Still about aliens.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And what about Alien? Because Alien does take place on the Nostromo.

[Marcus Parks]

That's not an alien. But it is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think. You know what? It makes it an alien movie. It's all humans versus alien. Sure.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I can actually see that too. I feel the same way with the species. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, that's. That's. That's on earth.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Spicy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Good movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Good movie. Where's my good old fashioned movie? That's not Baby girl.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, Baby girl sucks.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Natalie and I try to watch it.

[Marcus Parks]

You're both had the opposite.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's not. We had the. It had the opposite effect.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, I think it was very demeaning to women. And we'll get into it on a different podcast.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, on the immigrant podcast where women are immigrants.

[Marcus Parks]

I would love to have a kink conversation. Conversation with both of you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's not demeaning.

[Marcus Parks]

It's all.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's completely.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She still needs a man.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She still needs a dude.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If she was completely independent, she could have sex with a vacuum.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She should have fired his ass.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, she'd been like, you. Don't you disrespect me. I'm the boss.

[Marcus Parks]

You guys know so much more about the female experience than I do, and I appreciate you both.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now you're not an expert here. I feel in this room.

[Marcus Parks]

So then. But then I'd love to talk about alien comedies because I didn't realize I. In thinking about all of these alien movies, I realize as a whole, I am way more scared of space in general than I am of individual aliens. Because I.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's why you grip on Jeff so hard.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. Because he's got a big space.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, you're scared of him leaving and leaving.

[Marcus Parks]

But also I'm scared of the gravity going away and me just being sucked up into the universe. But that's just, you know, you got to grip onto the ones that you love. Yes, I am.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You wear a space belt.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You wouldn't drift into space.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, no, that's to keep my space pants up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's in the space pants are the space. Your space shirt. It's all attached.

[Marcus Parks]

It's all attached, baby. I wanted to talk about coneheads. And I wanted to talk about. Both Girls are easy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I haven't seen somebody take a sandwich like that since my mom.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Conan is amazing.

[Marcus Parks]

Cone.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a wonderful movie.

[Marcus Parks]

Now, last night I was with some friends and we were going to watch Earth Girls are easy because of this prompt. But then we had the conversation of does it hold up? We didn't end up. We talked about it for so long. We didn't end up watching the Movie. But then in talking through it that I was like, I think it still holds up. When was the last time you watched Earth girls are easy?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

25 years.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

It's been a really long time. And I remember I loved it. Yeah, I loved those things.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, think about the fact that Jeff Goldblum, Jim Carrey, and I believe Damon Wayans are the three aliens in that movie.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's pretty cool. They do. That was stacked because I wonder about the time they did once bitten. But you know what, to be honest, I am not a fan of the 80s screwball sex comedy. I am kind of over it. Earth Girls Are Easy is very much a screwball sex comedy more than anything else. And I like. Because I like. I want my alien movies for the most part to have a touch of, like, you can go to fantasy, like Flight of the Navigator.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love Flight of the Navigator because it both is an adventure film.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I like all Florida movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All. And. But it's also this. It has a touch of why we're making a movie about an alien, which is we're introducing another way of thinking. We are. We're going on. We're expanding our experience in a way that we would never be able to get on our own. And so there's something about Flight of the Navigator that to me is one of those. That's a good example of the difference between that and Earth Girls are Easy, which is just to see Geena Davis with no bra on.

[Marcus Parks]

Of course.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Is there a trauma that happens in Flight of the Navigator? Because I don't. I don't. I haven't seen it since I was a kid, but I remember something about it that really made me very sad. It's just all I remember all 80s.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Child movies back in the day had a wonderful sense of what it actually was like to be a kid, which is sad, which is. And dangerous. Yeah. And scary.

[Marcus Parks]

And they would answer.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. They would allow things to be sad. They would allow things to be scary for kids. Unlike now, where they're not allowed to feel any emotion. So they are now, obviously everything's all saccharine and everything's all about every. Everything's fine around whatever. But it's like this stuff is like. It's nice. You just remember this because it felt like. Because the kid was genuinely on his own. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, that. And he was hanging out with the alien who became like real friends with.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And then what the. The trauma is they tried to take his friend from him. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And so maybe just as a Kid. In seeing that, it just really. I. And I haven't seen it since. And I was also thinking about watching last night, and I was like, I feel like I just remember a profound sadness in watching this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's called nostalgia.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's got E.T. it's got that E.T. vibe. It's got the Mac and Me VI where you become friends and someone wants to steal your friend.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And one of my hardest things about, like, truly about ET Which I'll always kind of like. I am thankful that they have gone ahead and I guess re. Put the guns back in. Yes, I believe that they did that.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You can watch either version.

[Henry Zabrowski]

When they took the guns out of the movie. What the. In the end, like, Spielberg went back, he wanted to make sure it was, like, good for kids and cgi DT.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

A little bit like him hopping over logs and shit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They did a sheen over. It's really funny. Bad. Yeah. He looks like Kermit.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, but I love Kermit's little legs.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I do, too. But it's different than when it's ET and so it's like. But that was like, one of those things where I watched that and I was like, when you take the guns out of their hands, I know why you're doing it. But you're also removing the stakes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're removing. What this is really about, man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

If you remove the stakes, I ain't coming. Why.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Why you? Why am I here?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. No, E.T. but yeah, it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They re released it. But now it. You can watch the older version if you. If you get your hands on it, I believe. But E.T.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is like, I still very much. Obviously, I like. E.T.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Is an unbelievable film. Now, how about this? E. T or Close Encounters?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Close Encounters.

[Marcus Parks]

Close Encounters, everything. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think I go E. T. Actually.

[Marcus Parks]

Really?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think Close Encounters is like. If you're like Henry and you're a bigger fan of aliens in general, it's got the lore, all of it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's got. It's got the research. So also the idea that maybe Spielberg, like, this is where I. Conspiracy edge, too. Because Spielberg at the time, he had government consultants working on that movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jacques Valle, who was one of my. Obviously, one of my favorite theoreticians. My. My favorite alien thinkers. He was also a consultant on the movie. He's portrayed as a character within the movie. The French guy.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

In Close Encounters of the Third Kind is based off of that guy. And so Spielberg technically was told many times that this was like. That's why there's a lot of conspiracy theories.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Was ship in the desert. Something that actually happened.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, but the idea of the US government coming up with a communication protocol to talk with something that doesn't speak is actually I guess like part of the government research. He got that. He slowed. He like slipped into the movie.

[Marcus Parks]

I'm sorry, you mean like arrival? Like, like what happens in Arrival? That. That's what.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Basically the idea of using tones like when he does the whole like the talking to the aliens. Right. From a government concept of if we are approached by another species or something from outer space, how do we. How do we communicate? Whoa. And so that is what's awesome. That's what's awesome. And then I feel like that's almost Steven Spielberg's crowning achievement as Close Encounters to the Third Kind.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And it's just. I. The end's beautiful.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's wonderful.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I love with. By the way, there's going to be spoilers in this Close Encounters of the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Third kind of thing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think we're gonna be loose lipped for the rest of the episode. Yeah, I think that you should know that there will be some spoilers ahead. But at the end with the, the aliens, when he got the who he got little girls to portray the aliens. He like all the little aliens at the end. You know how they're walking around. They're all like chilled girls. Because he liked the way they moved. He liked the way they like were gentle and like. And stuff like that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, they're all little kids.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He didn't want to be. He didn't want people to be scared of him. Him. He wanted people to like be enamored with him. And so they're all cast as. They're all little girls.

[Henry Zabrowski]

What is more enamorine than the movement of a little girl? Nothing is more. Nothing makes me more filled with ammo.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Nobody said they want to. The Close Encounter aliens.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I am deeply, deeply attracted to the movement of a little girl.

[Marcus Parks]

Is that the guy you see?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jacques Filet actually was the first person to sing that song.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. And also Spielberg, we got to mention War of the Worlds.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think that War of the Worlds, we talked about this right before we started recording. Is a sleeper. Fantastic movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I really like it. But I think that it lost its at the end of the movie. It did it, you know, when they. When they left the kid, when they didn't kill the son. They should have killed that motherfucker right off. He was an idiot. Show people that there is consequences for your idiot actions.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I agree. You know, there should be more. More kids need to die in films. Yeah. I've talked about this.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Kill the child.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Let the kids know that if you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Up, you die in the film. You die. You dead, dude. All right. Tom Cruise is not coming back. He's five foot two. He's not gonna protect you. All right? He doesn't care. He's out there looking for a dick to suck. But they're not here to protect you, little boy. No.

[Marcus Parks]

Or a fish to suck his dick. Depends on what he's looking for.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And he. Or maybe he was with the activities of a little girl.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah, Here it comes full circle. The fish is the woman.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Where are your gills?

[Marcus Parks]

They're underneath my flaps.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep. Remember ute tits, gills, head, then butt.

[Marcus Parks]

The gills come seventh in, you know, importance. It depends on how you look at the gills and how much you want to stick your dick inside of them.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're already talking. He already brought up. Give us more prompts, Eddie. You got some working out.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, Predator. I mean. Well, first of all, we talked about Arrival. Let's go to. Let's talk about Arrival.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's the first contact film.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, I'd almost say it's his own genre itself, even amongst.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So I have. Then let's go back even further. Alien abduction versus Alien invasion versus Alien contact. I guess there's three different things. Okay. There's three. There's three different things going on here, I think, and they have different shots. Are horror movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Alien invasion or action movies. And alien contacts are kind of like drawings. Drama.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's actually really. That's a very good breakdown.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a very, very good breakdown because it's true. All the alien abduction movies. Dark skies.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Fire in the sky.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's a communion. They all have an edge of the horror to it, which is the truth of being space raped and also in.

[Marcus Parks]

Me being brought to an unknown place. That's already very upsetting. And you never get taken to a second location. I know these things.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We know these things. And. But abductions are also. I'm trying to think of, like, my mind. I'm trying to think of a. You know, what's a positive alien abduction movie? Cocoon.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Cocoon. Well, do they get abducted?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, sort of.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

That's an invasion. They come and they put the eggs in the pool and the old.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Are they all aliens at the time? I don't remember. Cocoon.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Cocoon. They. They come. It's an old person's home, and they show up. They're all like 45 weird eggs in the Bottom of the pool, you know, and there's like these giant eggs in the pool and they're trying to figure out what it is. And then all of a sudden, like. Like, they all get powerful.

[Marcus Parks]

Am I wrong that I just remember this being very, very boring, But I haven't seen it sit for a very long time.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Theater. Yeah. I remember loving it as. As a kid. I like you, but I also. I mean, Damamichi. So much fun. Brian Dennehy. Wilford Grimley. I mean, like, this is great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Find this movie now, by the way, it's out of print and it's not streaming anywhere. Really? Why? Apparently it's like, selling very high on ebay. That's so funny.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I thought it was.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Why was a Ron Howard movie. That's un. It's like a forgotten. I could get. Let me look at the fucking past. Like. Yeah, I know that you guys don't know if you're younger than the age of 30.

[Marcus Parks]

The boot and the Goat. I mean, get there, dude.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If you're younger than the age of 35. There used to be a thing called character actors. What they used to do is they used to have people that look like people you'd meet on the street. But they'd be actors and they'd be in things. And one of those things now we.

[Marcus Parks]

Just don't get jobs.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They just don't. Well, they just don't. They're either. You're either have to be deformed.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Or you have to.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And they're only gonna make so many mask movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, there's only so many. You only get. You get one fat girl movie a year.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah. That's how you get. If you don't get that, well out of luck.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sorry about it. We already put a fat one in. And so this one had. You know who was huge is Don Amici. Donna Michi is an amazing character actor, I believe. Was also in Batteries Not Included. It.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think he was.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Battery's Not Included was an amazing but.

[Marcus Parks]

Not an alien movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, it is. Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, I was thinking of Short Circuit because I was looking at batteries not included. And I was looking up Short Circuit. Circuit's not an alien.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, that's. We will do a Come to Life.

[Marcus Parks]

That's Robot Come to Life movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We will do a robot like.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

That's Chappie is Short Circuit. And Batteries Not Included is more District 9.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's fascinating.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

100. You know what to. I love batteries.

[Marcus Parks]

I do love batteries. Unexpluted.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, man. It's May. I'm Excited. It's getting warm out again. I'm digging through my closet, pulling out some of those linen shirts I got from quints last year. I'm ready to put them back in rotation, baby. That's the thing, is, like, these linen shirts are great. You know, my linen pants, very nice. Great in the summer. Oh, my gosh. I can't even tell you how nice linen breathes in the summer. But I gotta go get some of these European linen beach shorts. I'm about to be in Florida and so I can't. I need this. This needs to happen. I have to look good on these beaches. Either that or I look like a coward in front of all my old friends. All right, so I'm gonna. When you come back, you want to look good, you want to dress. Dress like a prince. And you know how you do that with quince.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know I love quince. If you listen to this show before. But the thing is why I like quints so much. Not only is it nice, not only is the linen breathe well. And you know linen so expensive. The linen at quints is priced 50 to 80% less than what you'd find it from similar brands. All right, then also they work with the top artisans, cutting out the middlemen. That way they're able to get you luxury pieces without crazy markups. All right. You know, the best part is quince only works with factories that use safe, ethical and responsible manufacturing practices in premium fabrics and finishes. I gotta say, at this point, now I got a bunch of quince clothes and it all still has no holes. You know, that little part of the shorts where the leg meets, like, underneath, like all the. The parts that I can't mention in a commercial, and it just grinds and grinds and grinds and just becomes a hole before you even know it. Still doesn't happen. My Quint underwear. Summer's coming. Gotta stay dry. So elevate your closet with quint. Go to quint.com last for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q U I N C E.com last to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com last.

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about the movie if you know what the genre of the movie is as the maker. And so that perspective changes everything. And it really requires, I think, unfortunately, the real education of a filmmaker is watching movies and identifying what are the telltale signs of very specific genres. Because then what you can do is if you're a really good filmmaker, you could manipulate the traditional chapters of a genre film to tell stories. But it's important to know those very traditional chapters. Right. And that they are very distinct versions of movies. And it's funny until you start to really pick them all apart. Art to see. Like there really is entire veins of. You could see producers in the 80s saying the having kind of dumb ass conversations like this that are actually extremely important to the art.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Absolutely. I mean it's Alien movies are very deep. They're way deeper than you think they are.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know, a lot of times they reflect society, which I think is really cool.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, that's also the best part of horror and genre. I feel like horror as a genre is one of the best. Same thing with sci fi. Sci fi and horror are such a great, entertaining way to deliver ideas as well. Especially sci fi.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sci fi is like. That's why in the end I love sci fi. Because it. Delete. It delivers cool concepts.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

In an entertaining way.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I like District 9 is kind of about apartheid.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Very much so. Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And so it's very. I love that.

[Marcus Parks]

District 9 is so good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I love District 9. So I feel like that movie people. I hear a lot of people say they don't like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I know it's because he. He lost the pl. I think the director himself. I lost it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Got nominated for best picture.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But the rest of his movies were not for Elisian wisdom.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Chappy. I'm a Chappy sympathizer.

[Marcus Parks]

I hate District 9. Was very good. It's a very. And has great rewatchability.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I had multiple times Chappy ruin that from me. There's a sequel coming of Chappie. Chappie District. Been working on it for like 10 years. Yeah. District 69. Yeah, man. Flip it upside down. Pussy dude. Fucking eat your prawn ass.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'm gonna slap skin. Take your shell off. I'm not shitting your little legs.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So my pussy's my asshole.

[Marcus Parks]

I want to bring up a movie that I. It was one of the first movies I thought of when you said Alien movies and it was one of my favorites as a child. And that was Purple People Eater. One Eyed, One Horn Flying.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Purple People Eater.

[Henry Zabrowski]

One Eyed, One Hard Life.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Purple People.

[Marcus Parks]

Do you remember the movie?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yep.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I was obsessed with that movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We all were slapstick children.

[Marcus Parks]

So weird. And I feel like that's why in going back through. I have so many more memories. And I don't know if it was because I was born in the late 80s of zany alien movies. Like, when I think Alien movies first, also one of the first things I thought of, Little Shop of Horrors, that's more of where my brain goes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I guess that is a Alien movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And it's an alien. Very much an Alien movie.

[Marcus Parks]

It's from outer space. It's a triffid, I think.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Think of like, you know, a Rocky Horror Picture Show. I think of this Rocky movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. They're aliens from the planet Transylvania.

[Marcus Parks]

From the planet Transylvania.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Frankenstein movie.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, interesting.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Have you never seen Rocky Horror?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I have, but I'm always hammered.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, of course. Yeah, it is. It's. So I think that, like having. I would love to do a big, like, go and do like an experience. I've never actually gone.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's a lot of fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I have friends that do it in. They like. They do it regularly and it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, it sounds like a blast.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I just never. I've never.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I never really stumbled upon it in Phoenix when I was by myself at midnight and I had one seat left. It was amazing. I had such a great time.

[Marcus Parks]

The Little Shop of Horrors is very good and really did scare me that I think scared me more than the original Alien did when I saw it young. Just because I thought it could happen, like, in a way that I think when I was a kid I thought Alien could never happen, but Little Shop of Horrors could. And I know that's very stupid thing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Because you're in space and you can relate to New York. You can't relate to a spaceship. Because we're scared of Event Horizon.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. Because we grew up in Skid Row. Yo, Skid Row.

[Marcus Parks]

And I love Little Shop of Horrors.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, I think that. I wonder what it is. Maybe let's ask this question because I wonder if, again, if you're younger than 30, if you've experienced this where. When we were growing up, I remember being vaguely traumatized by certain films when I was a kid that now I look at and are not. They're not scary, right?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, you didn't have restrictions on you. Right. You can watch anything.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Semi sort of. We. I mean, like. But it was the stuff that was interesting. It was the stuff. Oh, my God.

[Marcus Parks]

You're showing us the. Look who's talking to the toilet. We were scared of the toilet. That was. Look, he was talking too, right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think so. You know what mine was? Give me your P. Give me your pee. Give me your P. Yes. You know what was mine was the opening sequence from Amazing Stories. Oh, the opening sequence from Amazing Stories. That was the Steven Spielberg basically Twilight Zone rip. Yes. That was truly pure play. This. This. For some reason it still brings chills to my fucking spine. For some reason this. The song of it does was.

[Marcus Parks]

Is that just.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, this is a sexy scene. There's a second. This is a clip because it's a. There is that. Remember that when he got the ring. He buys the ring from the pawn shop.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And it's Danny DeVito and real Pearlman. Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know why this.

[Marcus Parks]

I remember this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Freaks me out. It's like. It literally makes all the hair.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I love it. It shows you like. It's. This is like spaceship Earth.

[Marcus Parks]

It is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It shows. Shows you like the evolution of storytelling.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Something about the music and about the. The caveman being lost in the dark. And then the top hat.

[Marcus Parks]

The top hat and magic.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, those dirty magician liars.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't like their lying. Life isn't an illusion. Life is real magician, man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I gotta watch that. I haven't seen this legitimately since I was a child.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Amazing stories really hold holds up.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I've watched a ton.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Twilight Zone movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They're all.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Except for the murder he committed. It's actually. It's a perfect. Not a murder.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was an accidental death.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That is going to get.

[Marcus Parks]

They were being fast and loose.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They were being fast and loose. But at the same time, they didn't kill anyone on purpose, unfortunately.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's just the idea that movies are supposed to be just so important that it doesn't matter what happens to anybody involved. Like, that's like one of those things that I'll always sort of like. Like there's a bitter taste in my mouth because it led to the rust stuff and it led to the Allman Brothers stuff with Sarah Brown and Sarah Jones and it led to all that stuff where it's like that idea that, you know, we're all. We need to be so thankful to be in this industry that we can die for it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But accidents do happen on any job I. I agree.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I agree. It was mostly just everybody.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But saying it's not like a line cook's never been dead. You know, like, it's like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, most of the time a line cook is killed by an ex girlfriend or someone else. On that's different again. They just are. They chose the life line cook. Life chose them.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

What are some recent Alien films that you've seen? Alien. Not obviously, you know, we're not talking about the Alien series, but like a. Movies about aliens that you've seen. I'll go first. Last night I wanted to prepare a little bit, so I put two on. I didn't make it through the second one, but I saw no One Will save you. The Hulu original. New. New film.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was better than I thought it was going to be. I wish I would have known that. There's no dialogue in the mov. Oh, my God. That was. I remember 30 minutes in, I'm like, are they not talking?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, Well, I got technically alien. Romulus was fine.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I. I really liked it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I liked it better than Prometheus. That. I thought that was fine. I saw that one. And then. Is Dune an alien movie? No, no.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Dune's in the Star Trek genre of it. I mean, techn. It's the fan fantasy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Have you ever seen Sputnik?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sputnik is a very good alien horror film.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Very, very good. And there was another one about. Remember that the moon's dangerous. The one where they go up on the moon. I want to say it's Apollo. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

A couple. It was. They made it a couple years ago.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, Apollo like 19. They go to the moon. You go to the moon and it turns out the moon's got bugs on it. It's got evil bugs on it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, Apollo something. It's Apollo something.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's another one of the more recent ones, of course.

[Marcus Parks]

Like Apollo 13.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like. No, no, I know what that is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

Is Apollo 11 is a quiet place. An alien movie. Yes, they are aliens.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Alien invasion.

[Marcus Parks]

They are aliens.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's an alien invasion.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, Much.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So that Quiet Place prequel, whatever that other one, that was hot garbage.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You're telling me the cat isn't going to meow one time?

[Henry Zabrowski]

One time.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

One meow out of that cat drinks out.

[Marcus Parks]

The original one was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. Like, it's not. Yeah, it didn't break the bank.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But do you know how many movies came out in a row about being quiet? Yeah, there was like five movies in a row.

[Marcus Parks]

And honestly. And you know which one won? Don't breathe.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Breathe was obviously made for $2 million in Detroit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And that is our Be Quiet film movie episode.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

One thing I like about the quiet. A place no cokeheads.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sad.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, man. They're not tweaking out loud enough.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Cloverfield Lane.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

10. Cloverfield Lane is awesome. John Goodman's greatest roles. Tragedy. He didn't get nominated. He puts on a display of acting in that film. I love 10. It's one of the movies on my list. I think it's. It's one of my favorite Alien films.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love that movie. Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's terrifying. It's three different genres in one. You know, it's like. It's a. Like what? Like a capture. What would call that, like kidnapping film, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, I would put it as a. I. You know what's funny? It's in the be Quiet movie category.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes, it is.

[Marcus Parks]

And we're saving it for that episode.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And the Be Quiet movie category, unfortunately, that's its own whole other thing. Everybody's got to be quiet.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So how do you feel about now? Can I let out of the bag who we're going to interview a contact of the Desert?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Of course.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We're going to interview Whitley Schreiber at Contact in the Desert. Very excited. So I'm like. Once I found out last night that Communion Union is actually about him. Written by him, wrote the screenplay and the book.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I got halfway through it. I'm enjoying it. But it is a little silly. It's dated for sure.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The Christopher Walken thing. It is. It is quite dated. The aliens are definitely puppets. There is a weird thing with Chris.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I like walking.

[Marcus Parks]

Really. Given a very.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think these are behind the scenes. This is from the movie?

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, this is from the movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I didn't get to this part.

[Marcus Parks]

Dances like this in the movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You can't help it. You know, it's like Sam Rockwell. He's gonna dance if he's in a film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Marcus Parks]

You know, to be a dancer.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I. I like. How do you feel about Communion? Is it accurate? And then a follow up question, Henry, what is the most accurate movie about alien invasions that you. Or something like that that you would think of?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I personally think the most accurate is. I love Arrival.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love the idea of something truly alien that it is very difficult for us to understand.

[Marcus Parks]

Love the idea that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think that's a part of what the main issue is that we expect these things to show up and we'd even recognize them.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then Communion, you'd probably close to put the most directly, like, consulted by somebody that was abducted by aliens. So I guess technically you would say it would have to be the most accurate because he was the guy that wrote it was abducted by aliens.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Firing the sky.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Fire in the sky had a lot of liberties. I don't know if Travis Walton necessarily was even involved with the making of Fire in the sky because it's based.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Off of the book.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I believe that was more inspired. Oh, he's in it. He's in the movie. He's in the movie, but I don't know if he makes cameo, so I think he's.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I mean, he co. Signs it for sure. When we saw him speak in Contact in the desert, he showed scenes from.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The film, of course.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, he's got to be pro it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. But like, what do you. So you think Arrival would be the most accurate to what we're talking about here? Like. Like, you know, I go back and forth. I mean, because it's so over the top and like, they're making, like, a clear point that first of all, don't be scared of them.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, you know.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And it's just as much a time travel movie as it is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, I do. Yeah. You know, it's hard because in my mind, I still believe that there's way more of a psychic component to the whole thing. I think that that a. The idea of the. The entire scenario being kind of wrapped up in one movie is actually quite difficult.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. I think Close Encounters might be the most accurate.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sure.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Because it's got the orbs. It's got the. You know, it's got a lot of things that are taken straight from people's experience.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yes. And then the idea of being. Feeling like you're special, like you're being spoken to, like you're. You got chose. Richard Dreyfus was chosen in that film. A lot of times people talk about abduction scenarios going on by the time when the. When people that have been abducted that remember past a certain age, they then kind of go into either some form of regression therapy or something where then they begin to think that they're. Or maybe come to realize that they have been getting abducted since they were a kid.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So that would also reflect that. And then I do think it's Mack and me, and I think that's the final one.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It has to have a butthole. It has to have a butthole of her mouth.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. You know what other one I like a lot? Contact.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Contact is a very emotional Movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I enjoy Contact. I think it is. It's definitely has its silly parts to it and like it, it gets a little weird with the Matthew McConaughey and all that stuff. But I love the Jake Busey character. He's terrifying to me. And you know, it's just that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Do you think that, do you think Jake Busey like frightens his family and his friends?

[Marcus Parks]

Obviously.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Did you see that Gary Busey's grandson has a band? It's a one man band that he does fake rave music with.

[Marcus Parks]

So he's not like playing the accordion or anything.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Jake's kid or is it one of those. Another child?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's some other child because he, the guy's too old.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But yeah, I mean, that's nothing to do with what we're talking about.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No. Gary Busey could be an alien.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, he definitely could have.

[Marcus Parks]

I have a question for you guys because you said. All right. No movies that completely occur in space. But what about Sphere? Now that is in space, but that is an alien 2. Or it's like, it's at least, you know, something that is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I didn't even think about Sphere.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sphere's kind of waterish, isn't it?

[Marcus Parks]

Esque.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But it's also, I mean, sea snakes.

[Marcus Parks]

It can like read you and you go inside of it and like. No, it's so it is alien.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now we know about aliens more than ever. They are probably. If they are somehow based on the planet Earth, they probably are coming from the water.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. Okay, that makes sense.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wow. Sphere. I haven't thought about Sphere in a long time.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I saw this in the theater and I remember really not liking.

[Marcus Parks]

Really?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, I remember.

[Marcus Parks]

Watch it again. It's great.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's a Michael Crichton film.

[Marcus Parks]

I mean, it's very bad. It's not good. It's. I understand if you were young watching it. I like watching it now and I, I think it's maybe because I watched it so many times when I was young. Yeah. That I, I, I always enjoy it. It's not. You don't watch it for it to be good though.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I have two more esoteric choices that I absolutely love.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Annihilation.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I love Annihilation. But that's, you know, that's not another. Annihilation is great. Great. You know what else, know what can I say something about Annihilation? I feel like the plot from Annihilation was borrowed from. For Frozen two and I think that they ripped off Annihilation.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, you know what? They took it all okay. You're thinking.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay. I thought you meant that Frozen two or that Annihilation.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, the other way. A lot of fun. Oh yeah. This movie's a blast. Everyone knows about space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is very Spider stupid. It's actually not good at all. It's worth watching.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I would see that again.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, no, definitely, you know, biggest joint you can roll for sure. You know, way better than Paul.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I hate Paul. Paul sucks, right? Hate Paul.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Paul was garbage. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Seth McFarland's not good at movies.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He's not, is he?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Although I am very excited for the new Naked Gun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, it. I. I get it.

[Marcus Parks]

I'll watch it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, but with Annihilation, you know what Annihilation is? Annihilation is essentially a retrofitting of Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad and same thing as. Same thing as Apocalypse Now. Same thing. It's all about traveling into a thing, technically. Also, Annihilation borrows a lot from a sci fi author by the name of J.G. ballard, who wrote a book called the Crystal World. That is just like this. It's just this. Like a weird force has arrived. It's changing a part of this one part of the country. Scientists are arriving in there to try to figure it out. And it's a. There's something about that, that. That travel in.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No one saw Annihilation. I feel like it got, like, unjustly, like, I don't know, panned or. I don't know what happened to that movie and why it wasn't popular.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It was Scarland. Same guy you did. Is that Ex Machina or. No, that is Ex Machina.

[Marcus Parks]

Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And Civil War.

[Marcus Parks]

And War. Warfare. And Civil War. And Warfare. Wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay. So I like all of his movies. That's direct.

[Henry Zabrowski]

War.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

War, yeah. It's a new Iraq war movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's good. It's not. Is it funny or.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, it's hilarious.

[Marcus Parks]

It's hilarious. Yeah. It's a laugh a minute.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It takes place in real time.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's very good. Oh, that's.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, but it's also doing 28 years.

[Marcus Parks]

Later, which I am excited.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I thought that was Danny Boyle.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's Danny Boyle.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, is it? I thought it was Alex Garland.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, Danny.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They're putting Michael Gannon more things.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He was good. He was good.

[Marcus Parks]

He's good in Warfare. He's good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, did you see Warfare? Yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, both of us thought, oh, we didn't go together.

[Marcus Parks]

But no, we both saw it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. All right, let's move on to Alien films we don't like. Oh, I'll go first. Pitch Black and Signs don't like either one of them.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, Pitch Black is funny because that's a Vin Diesel effort outside of Triple X that I actually kind of like. Because nowadays, you know what's funny about those style of, like, this genre is that at this point, because of the superhero genre, it makes these movies look way better.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All without the super. If you got rid of this place in space.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

So I go, I'm going against my own.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But if you got Rid of the superhero genre, you. We would still be bagging on these movies. But because superhero movies are such a waste of everybody's time and such a waste of the economy and money and shit, these movies you just showed that, like, look at this. Like, this was made for like $25 million.

[Marcus Parks]

Dumb God.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You hate the superhero genre. We, you know, we do ads for them. Yeah, the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, I fucking can't stand them.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I think Thunderbolts is going to be great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The problem with the movies with. My main issue, truly, is just that. I'm not going to watch 10 movies. To watch one movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You don't have to.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, you do.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Idiot.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Proof. No, but then that's the problem is that now I'm watching them as an idiot. And I've done this. I've tried to watch them out of sequence, and then I watch one that I'm sort of vaguely interested in, and they have all these references to a bunch of shit that I couldn't possibly give a fuck about. And it's all this other stuff where it's like, just make this one. One movie and you. I would have bought a ticket to it. This was just one standalone film. Yeah, I could just watch the movie. That's why I watch movies. And I hate television series. I don't watch television series because guess what? They never end and they just fucking keep going.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You really don't watch it? I don't like TV that much, but I do watch some of it. You watch none?

[Henry Zabrowski]

None. I watched none.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I watched trash tv.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I watch trash reality TV documentaries. I watch my Drag Race. I watch my. I got project runways coming, coming back. And then I watch movies.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

See, I watch none of that. And I watch some. Some actual tv. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Every time I watch a tv, I don't like it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You're such a coward.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I still like. It's not for me. I hate the thing, too. You know what I really, really hate when. I really hate when somebody does. He opened this.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

When they like. It's just. There's too many story lines all at once, and everybody. It's just like, I. I just don't. I don't care.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You love twin. I. You know. You know what's proof that Henry doesn't like TV shows? You hate the Dune show.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm not allowed to. We have to cut that. We do a series of ads for. We'll have to cut it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

We do ads for Marvel movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Marvel movies. They don't even hear what we say. No idea what we say. We love them. We love them. No, I. You know what it is about them? They. I guess it's like. I don't mean to be that butt hurt about it. It's just like I feel like you could probably like. I'm watching our friend Ryan Kler.

[Marcus Parks]

Is this how you're referring to him now, my friend? All right, great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm watching him get run over. The coals in the trades all bagging him for his money. The how little quote unquote, how much money that show was supposed to movie was supposed to make Sinners. And it's killing it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's an R rated movie that's number one in the box office two weeks in the row.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, dude. But they're comparing. Comparing it to the. Everyone in China is seeing the new Marvel movie money that they have to make. These Marvel movies have to make hundreds of millions, almost a billion dollars just to break even. And it is killing us. It is killing the entire industry.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Well, it's bringing back into independent film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, it's not yet. Because they're all dogging on the independent films that sort of do well.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sinners is not an independent film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They are. That's how fucked. But that's how shit. That's how fucked shit is right now, Eddie. That's viewed as a scrappy movie that might just make it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And it's like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a fucking. A huge tent pole horror summer film, you morons.

[Marcus Parks]

There's two Michael B. Jordans in it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's just gets to a point where it's like, how much money are we all supposed to make?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. No, but that movie's gonna fucking. It's killing it. It already made back its money.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, I love. I'm just saying that that's kind of what we're up when. That's what the Marvel and superhero movies do is set up the. This like truly unmatchable amount of money.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Everybody has to make.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And it has to be palatable to any person with half an eyeball.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That can arrive to see it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And they're shitting on him like he didn't make two of the biggest movies ever made.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's just. He just made. He made superhero dude. He did one for you guys. Yeah, he made Black Panther guys.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

And everyone. And everyone's trashing the fact that he got this deal where he owns it after 25 years. Got the deal.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Everybody. Not that uncommon. Everybody's just trying to. Just trying to hurt this man. Yes, they're trying to hurt the man. Trying to hurt the work. And there's no reason for it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All right.

[Marcus Parks]

Well, I like the movie. The Faculty.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know, they gave it a good soundtrack.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, it's got a great soundtrack. It is. But in talking about Alien movies that are not very good, that is definitely one of them. But, yeah, man, I will say, if it is on, I'll watch it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Do you remember they had to push it because it was all about killing the teachers? Oh, Columbine.

[Marcus Parks]

Or are you thinking about teaching Mrs. Tingle that I am, because it was.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Supposed to be Tingle, and then they changed.

[Marcus Parks]

Teaching Mrs. Tingle was the one where they kill the cuz. This is. I mean, they're aliens, so you got to kill these.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what one I had? I had to get over my penis to enjoy what? Under the skin. I never saw it under the skin. When I first saw it, I was just like, it's good, Scarlet Joy. It just booies in it. And then now, as an adult, I watch it and I realize it's actually quite good. It's quite haunting.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's actually very, very, very good. It's like. And I want to say it's probably Scar Joe's best movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I didn't even know it was an Alien film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I started, like, researching this episode.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's Garjo's best movie outside of her, where she's not in it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. You know, it's a good future space movie, but not an Alien movie that kind of. I've always put in the same genre as this, and I'm probably incorrect. It's Melancholia.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, Melancholia is a cool movie. That's a very interesting.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's got Deer Hunter vibes. It does. You know, and it's sad. It's very sad. It's very sad. But I like that movie. And it's got, you know, Kate Winson's boobies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, no, not Katie Winslet. The other one. Oh, Kirsten Dunst.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Kirsten Dunst.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But they're sad.

[Marcus Parks]

But they're sad boobies. Yeah, that's the thing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's like, I always kind of felt like that skin.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Sad boobies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what's also funny, too, is that as a kid, too, like, I remember doing that, you ever just like, okay, Jackie, you're not here. You ever do the thing where you.

[Marcus Parks]

I am here. I need everyone to know I am still here.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Where you have to thumb through an extremely sad movie just to see Tits as a little boy.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, I mean, yes, that was a big part of.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I always remember flipping through the piano you don't want me.

[Marcus Parks]

You don't want me to be hearing this, but I need you to know. I need to bring up Astronaut's Wife, because that is definitely a movie that I would go right. I knew exactly how to get to the one sex scene in Astronaut's Wife, which was a great, fun Alien movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now we're just looking at Holly Hunter nude for the piano.

[Marcus Parks]

Sad nude in the piano.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I never saw the Piano. I didn't know Holly Hunter got nude.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, but the rest.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, man, she's so beautiful. Yeah, she is really just a classic beautiful woman.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She just cry, cry, cries.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I watched the Firm the other day.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Guess what, man? No piano in it either. I'm expecting.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

There's no piano in that movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is my thing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You go that movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Piano.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Are you really gonna tell me there isn't one piano in the piano?

[Marcus Parks]

Not.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Listen to me, Eddie. Not one Jerry Lee Lewis song, you know?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, my God.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, man.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

That's up. And you know what else?

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's how that movie should open.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

There's no game in the Crying Game.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's no game. It's just crying.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Man, that would be so cool. The piano. The p. Piano, too.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Rag Time.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think it's. She's a deaf woman.

[Marcus Parks]

It says there is a piano in the piano.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, there's like all piano in it. Yeah, she's mute.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

She's mute. Oh, she talked through a piano.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, she does a thing where she's like. She tries to marry the piano. I don't know.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, she becomes the piano, but she can't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because you ever play the piano game with a girl where you press her until she starts doing the chopsticks, but you do with your feet.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Like Tom Hanks.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, my heels.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Don't forget in Big. That woman. Don't forget. But we are talking about Alien movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's a whole genre of child trapped inside adult's body, having sex with the dog.

[Marcus Parks]

Different episodes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

There's many of those films, sleeper movies about aliens. Ones that you think maybe have flown on the radar. People haven't seen that much. I'll go first, as always. Slither.

[Marcus Parks]

Love slither. So good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Slither.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Cool, man. I. It's gross. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Michael Rooker is incredible in that movie. Great.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I really love Slither.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what's one that I forgot about that I was reminded by? I mean, and it is. It's a major one. It's just one of those that doesn't Come about. Because it's the type of movie you don't see as much anymore. The movie blob. Ooh, the 80s blob.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is one of. I. I love that movie. And the idea of. There used to be a lot more movies about just a big thing, you know, like, you know, there was like, ants. Remember them? You see them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With the ants. It's, like, very interesting. It's actually kind of an interesting movie. There was also the other movies.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Wasn't there one about killer B ones?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. And there's one about caterpillars, I think.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I don't know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Not ants. Not ants. The film with.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, ants. The film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a film which I think is.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Technically the last Sylvester Stallone, Woody Allen movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The last Sylvester Stone. Woody Allen film that we'll ever get.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes. That's the last one we'll ever get.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't think there'll be more.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Then there. There are two.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's an ants. 2.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, two Sylvester Stallone, Woody Allen movies. Because he's in Annie Halt. He's one of the guy that robs him on the train.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's so.

[Marcus Parks]

Whoa. The Italian Stallion.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Or is it Bananas? It's one of the other ones he's on. He's in. Stallone is in.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Those are the ones of his I seen the least.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. But regardless, we're not doing that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, no. We're not doing cancel directors.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, we're not doing that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're doing Aliens. We're gonna do another one where we do cancel directors.

[Marcus Parks]

Okay, good. I can't wait for that one. I'll get into that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I just.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Chinatown.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Great movie.

[Marcus Parks]

That's Chinatown.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Great movie, man. Guess who did like it. My wife. She was extremely upset by that film. I don't know. It was like.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

In the end. At the very end of the movie, she was just like, that's it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's Chinatown.

[Marcus Parks]

Chinatown.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, baby, It's Chinatown. She did not enjoy the. Yeah, she was not into it.

[Marcus Parks]

I really liked Attack the Block, I guess that's one that is like a. One that people don't.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

John boa, Star Wars. Does he do anything else?

[Marcus Parks]

I think. Doesn't he do Star Wars?

[Henry Zabrowski]

He did Star wars, but that's all done now. He then got upset about the. Then he got mad about his treatment during Star wars. And then he kind of became. Then he took Pacific Rim. He was in Pacific Rim. Oh, they're fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were okay. Those.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Man. That second Pacific Rim was so Bad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, I find them entertaining.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I like the first one we saw together was a lot of fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Truly. Anything that's not some form of ip, sign me up. I just, I'm looking. I'm desperate for new ip. Yeah, like give me another time. I don't care. Bring Triple X back. I know no one likes Triple X. Whoa.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

But I'll.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'll see more Triple X movies. I watched five Final Destination movies in a row at home because I was. I was sick. I watched all the movies in a row.

[Marcus Parks]

That's great. Didn't you love them even more as they went on?

[Henry Zabrowski]

They're terrible.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But what's nice about them is that they're. It's not. I'm not being spoon fed things that I need to purchase.

[Marcus Parks]

Honestly. You know what you need to do next? Watch all of the Fast and Furious movies back to back.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They are good. They are too long.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

No, there's a bunch of really, really bad.

[Marcus Parks]

There's Tokyo Drift is a couple ones you can cut out in the middle. But man, they, it just really. When they talk about. Are they aliens? When they come. If they take. When they ride in the car from space down back to Earth and still.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jump out of the car, they're anything but alien. They're family.

[Marcus Parks]

Their family. One that came up that I forget. Color out of Space. I brought this up. I said it under my breath earlier.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I view Color out of Space as an eldritch horror film.

[Marcus Parks]

Now what? Now a question though. What would be the difference? And because then it's not coming from space. Because it's coming then essentially like from the Earth.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I don't know anything about this movie.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh, it's great. I think that you would really enjoy Color out of Space.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a slow burn. It's.

[Marcus Parks]

It is Cage. Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's cool.

[Marcus Parks]

It's just a fun, psychedelic. Nick Cage sci fi movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. It's by Richard Stanley, the guy that did island of Dr. Moreau.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That was the failed. Was considered to be the failed island of Dr. Mar.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I still enjoy it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love that movie.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Also an undiscovered classic of his in the sci fi genre, Hardware, which is actually quite good. And the Dust Devil is. I've seen all of his films for Dust Devil's Really Strange. It's like an erotic horror thriller that he kind of. After the success of Hardware, he was kind of allowed again. This is one of those things that used to give great deals to filmmakers all the time. He just got this kind of like, all right, now you make your dreams desire. And then he made this kind of weird wizard desert sex movie. And everyone's like, oh, this is bad. But it's quite. I like it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Now, how about this? I know this is one that y'all love and we haven't brought it up yet. Maybe. I don't know if it's a sleeper or not, but Bad taste.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, bad taste is a part of the Peter Jackson. Oh, yeah. You know, Peter Jackson, those early movies, they mean a lot to me.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They're not good, they me, but they're important to watch.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. They're not his best work, but they.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Are like Dead Alive is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love Dead.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Dead Alive holds up. And like I. The. The X rated version of Dead Alive is required watching.

[Marcus Parks]

Oh yeah, Meet the Feebles holds up. But I also haven't seen it in a minute.

[Henry Zabrowski]

When's the last time you.

[Marcus Parks]

It's been a minute.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's pretty bad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It does not quite hold up.

[Marcus Parks]

But here's the thing though. Bad Taste and Meet the Feebles for me are important movies because I remember seeing them at a time that I didn't know you could make movies like this.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And we were like, we laughed in America.

[Marcus Parks]

You couldn't laughed and. And just like loved it so much. And it so affected me that while, yeah, they're not good movies, they were huge to like opening up my brain into like what you could make.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because to me, that's the big deal. Is that like, what does it mean to you? What do the movies mean to you? I think that that's like what we sort of miss sometimes in the age of like. I think that's also part of why I have to examine my anger. And when I get angry and you, like, you heard me earlier, I got angry. And then a lot of times what my therapist tells me to do is to stop and think about, like, where is it coming from? And the anger. A lot of times for me it comes from a deep sadness. And I think part of where the sadness comes from sometimes is that when you are making work on such a level where you're putting out 10 episodes of a series at once and the idea of binge viewing and binge content making and binge, like all of this concept, you begin to lose. Like. I guess that's one of my main issues is that with the, the new influx of all the content is that they all blend together. And then part of me then thinks like, these are people. Each one of these television shows is a year out of those people's lives that you consume in six hours. And then you're like, next. And then I feel like it does get to a point where you're like, the movies used to. For me, these movies meant. Meant something. Like, even the bad ones meant something.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

A lot of time the great actors say they prefer television because they really get a hold of the character. I understand it to really be a part of the character for a very long.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But that's if the writing is good.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And Killer Clowns from Outer Space is how we're ending this whole. Yeah, that's one of all.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, it is. It is a great movie. I really don't kill her.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean, I totally understand digging into it as an actor, but again, I'm the audience member, I'm not the actor.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, for sure.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm trying to watch it. And I get sad because I feel like a lot of people's work gets overlooked. And I think that people spend a lot of time and then their. Their work is harshly judged and quickly judged and it's flushed on the toilet.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, and it makes me angry because I feel like more people should understand what goes into the stuff that they watch.

[Marcus Parks]

Wow.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. And I, you know, and I have a similar feeling. I feel like horror movies and like, in sci fi, alien movies and all that stuff was really big for me because it, like, I don't know, it kind of like I was an only child who, like, I was like. I lived in Boca Raton, but my family was like, the family that went poor trying to live in Boca Raton. And so, like, I wasn't like, in with all the rich kids. And I was, like, super fat. And so, like, I went to Catholic school, so I was a nerd. I didn't have any friends.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know, and so I, like, two friends and we watched horror movies and we. And that's how, like, I related to society from, like, exactly 8 to, like 14, you know, until I got to high school and my fucking came out of my shell. They're very important. They. They really help people more than people think.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

You know, it's A lot of people look at it as trash and all that stuff, but it's actually like, they teach you about society. They like, they're. The first movies were for where women and people of color are the leads.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, Sci fi was a. Sci fi means the world to me.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because. Cause of that. Because I'll always remember when I first got into reading sci fi and watching these movies was when we Moved really from New York to Florida. Same thing.

[Marcus Parks]

So it was an escape.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I was alone and there was something about connecting to something else that felt alien.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah. Right.

[Marcus Parks]

And specifically with aliens, I think that opening up, especially from a kid's perspective of opening up what could be and showing you, even in like the zany alien comedies that a lot of us grew up on, I feel like it showed us that your current reality isn't the only thing that can exist.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Marcus Parks]

And that's a good thing. Like, I watch Alien movies from being a kid and thought, oh, that's freedom. That's a freedom that. That we can have. That who knows what could happen.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Think about how free the flying purple people People eater monster was.

[Marcus Parks]

So free.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The last bout of freedom that anyone's ever had.

[Marcus Parks]

Didn't have to wear any clothes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Unicorn free.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Stitch. Yes, Stitch. Not a.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

He's an alien.

[Marcus Parks]

Alien. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Stitches. An alien. He came from out of space. It's the first scene of the movie, I'm gonna admit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Never seen it.

[Marcus Parks]

I also haven't seen it.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Really.

[Marcus Parks]

But they're coming out with the. Because a lot of people in our chat on our Friday show were very excited because they're doing a live action Lilo and Stitch and I never see. I've never seen that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Makes me want to die.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

I'll check it out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It looks cute.

[Marcus Parks]

Just the idea of the live action Lilo and Stitch.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We already have a Lilo Low and Stitch. They can just watch the old one, but.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, but you didn't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, I. It's not for me, you know, I mean, the kids can watch the old one. Kids can watch the old one. They already made. They already made it and it wasn't even that long ago.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It was 20 something years ago.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Whoa. Is it?

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, No. I guess monsters under the bed and demons are very different than aliens because I just saw little monsters and I got excited.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But.

[Marcus Parks]

But that's Monsters.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Another episode that we will do that is.

[Marcus Parks]

Yes, yes, Monsters.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This has been wonderful.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This really has been. Can we write down all the potential episodes that we're going to do?

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Some will do it on Reddit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm sure we'll definitely do the be quiet films.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Cancel Directors films. I think cancel directors films is going to be important for us.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Oh, absolutely. People really want us to do that?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They really want us to examine, scream.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It and really give opportunity.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Definitive Woody Allen watch list.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. I tell you what. To watch his front door, make sure he stays. Make sure he don't come after you. Now Woody Allen, you know, he's done. He'll be dead soon.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This is great. Make sure you watch and listen to Good Pud. Please do that show on the network by far.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We are going to be doing. You'll see a revamp of Good Pud. We have a bit of a special coming up for you very, very soon. We certainly are going to. I hope you enjoy because we definitely enjoyed making it. And we going to. That's got. And then Hoopa Goo is going to be coming in. We're doing hoop soon.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yes, absolutely.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're going to be pausing live streams but then we're going to coming back out with a whole season of Hoopa Goo Goo.

[Marcus Parks]

It's going to be.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

It's going to be very well made and produced. Not that it wasn't before, but it's going to be organized.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We're doing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Very excited. And then of course this comes out on Wednesday, May 7th, if you happen to be in Fort Lauderdale. The three of us are performing tonight at the Fort Lauderdale Improv. So check it out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Our prepared. We have our material. Jackie's doing 25 minutes.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I've got it all set.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, she's doing. She's got a whole thing and it's all about abortion. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun making cry and talking about abortion.

[Marcus Parks]

But of course, you know, if you've got abortion problems or if you have any other kind of problems. But abortion ain't one but a might.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If you got abortion problems, I feel bad for you, son.

[Marcus Parks]

And you should take those problems to who's the bitch dot com. Let us know what those problems are. Who's the Bitch dot com.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Don't you have a phone number?

[Marcus Parks]

We do have a phone number, but all the information is on who's the bitch dot com.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, go do that. And then also tomorrow night we're going to be in Orlando, the three of us at the Orlando Funny Bone. The early show is sold out. There are still some tickets available for.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The late show and that's where Jackie will be doing.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Check that out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She'll be doing her full hour on her abortion.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And that's when she's going to come up mostly be talking. We're not going to be talking. Jackie's going to be up there. Eggs, Eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs. You use eggs. I'm doing a lot of my legs.

[Marcus Parks]

Yeah, I'm doing a lot of.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They're in my hole in here.

[Marcus Parks]

Poetry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Eggs are going out here.

[Marcus Parks]

And by beat poetry means I'm gonna do poetry. And Y'all gonna beat the out of me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Okay, okay.

[Marcus Parks]

Marina Brockovich hitting that woman. Oh, always funny.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Also, if you happen to be in Key west this weekend, come and see me in Key west at the Comedy, Comedy, Comedy Key West. I'm gonna be there from May 9th to 11th.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He may not be doing comedy, but he is going to be drinking hard.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So you just be right there with him.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Yeah, absolutely. Especially on Mother's Day.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Please go see his show on Mother's Day. Please just go see any show on Mother's Day. What else are you doing in Key.

[Marcus Parks]

West on Mother's Day?

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's all he's asking for. Bring your mother to a show on Mother's. Auntie Wet.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

They like me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come on.

[Marcus Parks]

They do.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come on. He's allowed to eat on the island.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

All right, y'all, this has been side stories.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Goodbye, everyone.

[Marcus Parks]

Bye.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

Hail, Peter Jackson.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie Zabrowski]

This is Comedy Bang Bang, the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie Zabrowski]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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