Last Podcast On The Left: "Unbelievably Friendly Organisms: Jenna Haze" (September 22, 2025)

Guest: Jenna Haze
Hosts: The Last Podcast Network

Episode Overview

This lively episode delves into the strange intersections of UFO lore, spiritual experiences, and the realities of living in the public eye, all anchored by a dynamic conversation with Jenna Haze—a former adult entertainment icon turned psychotherapist. The hosts and Jenna discuss the upcoming sci-fi comedy film Unbelievably Friendly Organisms, alien abductions, spiritual anomalies, personal transformation, mental health, and ethical debates about cloning and AI. Jenna weaves together her journey from adult film star to therapist, providing nuanced, first-hand insights into both cultures.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Introducing Unbelievably Friendly Organisms and Jenna Haze

• Plot of the Movie: A satirical take on UFO abduction stories, where the abductee frames his traumatic experience as a "blessing," only for the dark truth to surface—a baby is stolen in a "very bad way."
  • [01:13–02:47]
• Why Jenna: The hosts picked Jenna for her blend of "icon" status in adult films and real-world mental health expertise.
• Jenna’s Credentials:
  • Now a psychotherapist and crisis counselor with a master’s degree, working toward a doctorate.
    • Jenna: “I’m technically a psychotherapist now and a crisis counselor.” [02:47]

2. Jenna’s Views on UFOs and Anomalous Experiences

• UFO Disclosure: Jenna’s a lifelong believer, finding recent government disclosures more of a “duh” moment and a political distraction than a revelation.
  • Jenna: "For us to think that we are the only intelligent species ... is incredibly arrogant. Right?" [04:43]
• Spiritual Encounters (Not Aliens):
  • Story of grandfather’s death and unexplained jingling keys
  • Vivid dream of her mother after she passed
  • Both events reinforced her openness to “paranormal stuff”
  • [05:59–08:03]
• On Folklore & Continuity of Anomalous Events: Hosts reference Jacques Vallée’s theory equating fairy and alien tales as repeating motifs in human consciousness.
  • [08:03–08:51]

3. Fantasy, Subculture, and Identity

• Jenna’s Gothic and Fantasy Interests:
  • Collects fairy art, loves alien/horror genres
  • Partial to books like Anne Rice and Laurel K. Hamilton over popular viral fantasy (“A Court of Thorns and Roses”)
    • Jenna: “I'm a kind of honorary goth, I guess ... wear black predominantly.” [10:08]

4. Modern Ufology and Video Evidence

• Discussion of Recent UFO Footage: Hosts show Jenna government-released video of a UFO over Yemen that shrugs off a missile strike; skepticism due to prevalence of AI fakery.
  • [14:02–15:01]
  • Jenna: “This is the days of AI so it's hard to know what is real and what is not real anymore.” [12:15]

5. Therapy, Mental Health, and Boundaries

• Jenna’s Approach as a Therapist:
  • Maintains “non-judgmental stance,” believes in diversity of beliefs and experiences.
  • Therapists need therapists; her specializations: meditation, mindfulness, severe emotional disorders.
    • Jenna: “Therapists usually have their own therapist ... I do a lot of meditation.” [28:14–28:59]
• Finding Fit in Therapy:
  • Jenna: “It took me like five tries before I found the perfect therapist for me.” [31:38]
  • Advice: Therapy is confidential, safe, and not meant to be scary.
• Serving the Entertainment Industry:
  • Focus on women, especially performers, actors, musicians—believes her experience lets her offer uniquely relevant support.
    • Jenna: “I think that it's hard for a therapist and a client to have as fruitful of a relationship when the therapist doesn't understand the perspective of what it's like to be an entertainer …” [34:38]
• Dangerous Attention and Celebrity:
  • Open conversation about death threats and how public figures experience uniquely dangerous forms of attention.
  • Host: “When I got my first significant death threat ... a much more famous person said: congratulations.” [36:36]

6. Ethics of Cloning and AI

• Cloning Debate:
  • Hosts discuss hypothetical mass cloning for labor, referencing Black Mirror; Jenna is entirely against it, even for pets.
  • Jenna: “I don't think cloning is morally acceptable at all, period." [23:30]
• AI and Mental Health:
  • Jenna voices concern about AI-generated psychosis, environmental impact, and warns against using AI for therapy.
    • Jenna: "It's just telling you what you want to hear ... there's nothing in the box." [48:21]

7. Philosophical and Spiritual Tangents

• Religion and Spirituality:
  • Jenna oscillates between atheism, agnosticism, and spirituality, largely influenced by unexplainable personal events.
    • Jenna: “On a bad day I'm an atheist, on an average day I'm agnostic, on a good day I'm spiritual.” [38:47]
  • Hosts and Jenna clarify atheism vs. agnosticism:
    • Jenna: “…agnostic means you just don't have the knowledge… until that information, concrete evidence is provided.” [38:55]
• Simulation Theory and Past Life Hypnosis:
  • Jenna shares experience with past-life regression, finding the ambiguity both freeing and motivating.
    • Jenna: “Sometimes believe in reincarnation ... I was a love and sex goddess that was worshiped in Italy.” [41:43]

8. Societal Change, Empathy, and Human Evolution

• Need for Empathy and Collectivism:
  • Jenna argues that to evolve, society must shift away from "individualistic" patterns and prioritize empathy, intellectualism, and compassion.
    • Jenna: “I think that love, compassion, as cheesy as that fucking sounds, is like the way to go, you know …” [45:54]
  • Warns of anti-intellectual currents and declining empathy in US culture.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jenna Haze on Being a Hybrid:
  "I've had people online tell me that I look like an alien." [19:45]

• On Being a Therapist:
  "Therapists usually have their own therapist. I meditate every single day... I've just kind of had such a crazy life and, like, I'm used to chaos in a way, so it doesn't affect us." [28:14–29:58]

• On Moderation and Adult Content:
  "I think most things are okay for people in moderation ... How is it impacting your health? How is it impacting your relationships, your work, your productivity, your hygiene?" [51:06]

• On Evolving as a Species:
  "I think we need to become more of a collectivistic culture where we actually care about each other ... I think that's absolutely the wrong direction ... if we would just be good fucking people." [45:54–47:03]

• On Professional Multiplicity:
  "Whether I was an adult film star or ... a therapist or now ... mainstream acting ... all of these things are going to impact people in some way." [50:19]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Film Premise & Jenna Intro: [01:03–02:47]
• Jenna on UFOs/Spiritual Experiences: [04:43–08:03]
• Folklore, Fairies & Aliens: [08:03–08:51]
• Recent UFO Footage Discussion: [14:02–15:01]
• Therapy, Fit, and Self-Care: [31:20–34:38]
• Cloning/Ethics Debate: [22:21–24:07]
• Empathy, Society, and Evolution: [45:54–47:03]
• Jenna on Religion/Spirituality: [38:47–39:49]
• Past-Life & Sim Theory: [41:43–42:20]
• Porn, Comedy, and Helping People: [49:18–50:40]
• How to Judge Porn Addiction: [51:06]
• Outro—Atlanta, Projects & Weed: [53:28–56:14]

Episode Tone

The conversation bounces between irreverent, deeply personal, and intellectually curious—a signature mix of Last Podcast on the Left’s dark humor and the earnest, lived experience Jenna Haze brings as a public figure remaking herself as a mental health expert.

Closing Highlights

• Jenna on Her Multiple Careers:
  "I'm a very diverse individual. I've got my fingers into almost everything." [54:37]
• On Enjoying Life & Weed:
  "My last name is Hayes for a reason." [56:14]

Useful For

• Anyone interested in how media, sexuality, mental health, and weirdness collide.
• Listeners looking for nuanced discussion on celebrity, vulnerability, and growth—laced with self-deprecating humor and UFO lore.
• Those seeking practical insights on therapy and societal empathy, delivered by someone who knows the cauldron of fame firsthand.

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