Lavetti is NOT joining the National Guard

Summary

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Laugh with Me – Episode 99

“Lavetti is NOT joining the National Guard”
Host: Jeremy Odem
Guest: Lavetti Vegas
Date: July 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

Episode 99 finds host and comedian Jeremy Odem reconnecting with frequent guest, comedian Lavetti Vegas, for a freewheeling, hilarious, and candid conversation. As they approach the 100th episode milestone, Jeremy dives into Lavetti’s comedy career, recent controversy in the stand-up scene, questions about his rumored National Guard involvement, wrestling nostalgia, social media beefs, and the art of making your own lane in comedy. Expect plenty of laughs, a few spicy takes, and a deep look inside the realities and relationships in local comedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Elusive Guest: Connecting with Lavetti (03:00–06:00)

• Jeremy sets the tone by joking about Lavetti's habit of changing phone numbers and being hard to reach.
• Quote:
  • Jeremy: “I think he changed his number on us, first of all, which would be. That would be such a Levetti thing…” (04:25)
• Lavetti finally answers, explaining the missed call with his signature wit.

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2. Name Games and the Importance of Change (06:08–07:24)

• Discussion on Lavetti’s evolving stage names and why he sticks with “Vetti” as a nickname.
• Lavetti compares changing his name to moving apartments: “It's like moving out of a apartment. ...but it was nothing wrong with the old apartment.” (06:50)
• Jeremy pushes back: “Most people don't move back to the old apartment.” (07:11)
• Lavetti in self-deprecating mode: “That’s a terrible analogy.” (07:16)

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3. Comedy Industry Talk: Clout, Stars, and Social Media Drama (07:24–14:42)

• Lavetti explains a minor social media clash concerning comedian D. Ray Davis and actor/comedian Lil Rel.
• On star power vs. importance:
  Lavetti: “There’s a difference between being a star and being important.” (09:01)
• Lavetti emphasizes not taking social media too seriously and discusses how clips bait reactions and controversy.
• Talks about online disputes with other comics:
  • The tendency for comics to seek social validation for their criticism online.
  • Lavetti always tries to give “enough perspective” and not burn bridges needlessly: “If you’re a comic and you say you never bomb—shut up.” (17:18)

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4. Comedy Scene Ethics: Calling Out and Supporting Others (13:49–20:41)

• Lavetti highlights a recent incident of a comic calling another out for bombing, accusing him of being a “creep,” and then acting contradictory.
• Importance of context and professionalism—don’t call people out without details.
• Talks about how “bookers” look at actor’s public profiles; stresses authenticity and setting boundaries for who can comment on his posts.
  • Quote: “If your page is private, then you’re not really trying to make it [in entertainment].” (19:22)

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5. Wrestling Icons, Race, and Pop Culture Reckonings (20:41–34:09)

The Hulk Hogan Discussion (20:41–30:29)

• Jeremy prompts Lavetti about a Facebook post asking Black community members how they feel about Hulk Hogan’s recent passing, sparking a deep dive.
• Lavetti wrestles (pun intended) with childhood admiration of Hogan and the struggles separating nostalgia from his racist comments.
  • Lavetti: “Hulk Hogan: legendary, but also racist.” (23:31)
  • “If he said ‘black guy’…this would be a totally different story. But he described us as the N word. That’s the disturbing part.” (24:17)
• On icon status vs. morality:
  • “That’s like—if we found out Michael Jordan was racist, does that mean he’s not the best in the world? No, he’s still the greatest.” (27:57)
  • Compares to O.J. Simpson: greatness vs. personal failings.
• Both agree you can’t rewrite wrestling history to erase Hogan’s legacy, regardless of personal opinion.

Vince McMahon & #MeToo (33:35–34:22)

• Lavetti: “Vince vs. gonna go down as that guy who carried Wrestling…but all those allegations… Reason B, man, because some of those allegations are true.” (33:46)

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6. Project Updates: Elevation Card, National Guard, and Improv Adventures (36:06–41:38)

Elevation Card

• Lavetti updates on his stalled digital business card venture due to lack of help:
  “I need three people—one person with the camera…everybody’s busy…that’s the problem.” (36:19)

National Guard – Myth Busting

• Jeremy presses Lavetti on rumors that he’s joining the National Guard.
  • Lavetti:
    • “No, I have not signed up for the National Guard, and I’m not trying to join the National Guard. Yes, I'm doing training promo work for the National Guard and I'm an actor for these training videos.” (38:58–39:05)
  • He’s acting/filming promos/videos, not enlisting.

Improv Comedy

• Lavetti reflects on his experience in improv competitions:
  • “The last time we went was the most improv we did, and we lost. ...But it was a great experience.” (40:09)
  • Sees improv as a tool to hone crowd work and considers more of it to further sharpen his comedy.

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7. Upcoming Stand-Up and Shows (41:45–44:53)

• Jeremy lists Lavetti's upcoming gigs:

  • August 9th: Backline in Omaha
  • August 18th: “Beyond the Laughter” YouTube show
  • August 22nd: Babs Comedy Club in Chicago (headliner event)
  • August 30th: The Backline again (just booked)
  • August 31st: South Omaha Tequila Garage

• Lavetti details the hustle of booking shows, the necessity sometimes of performing for exposure rather than pay, and how working free gigs can still build a following and open doors.

  • “No doesn’t mean no, just not right now…” (42:45)
  • “You gotta do what you gotta do: free stuff, take ills, get fans.” (44:50–45:00)

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8. Being on the Local Comedy Scene vs. Being “Outside” (47:40–52:08)

• Jeremy and Lavetti discuss feeling “inside” or “outside” of the comedy scene.
  • Lavetti doesn’t go to open mics or local shows for bookings: “I’m doing it simply to support comedy, period.” (48:24)
• Lavetti’s social media presence means people “know me, but they don’t know me.”
• Attending in-person brings connections and visibility—like Lex Luger’s surprising WCW debut.
  • “That’s the image that they have. And that’s sad, because I want to scare somebody. That’s wild.” (52:08)

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9. Professionalism, Boundaries, and Comedy “Beef” (53:09–54:26)

• Lavetti explains dropping out of shows if he can’t respect how someone operates, keeping boundaries:
  • “I’m not a comedy hoe. I don’t need to stay friends with you just to get a comedy show. My respect is bigger than me.” (54:17)

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10. Friendship Banter & Looking Ahead to Episode 100 (54:26–65:01)

• Ongoing bit: Jeremy as a “ginger” who’s permitted to use the “hard R” for “ginger” only by Lavetti; flipping the script on insider/outsider social joking.
  • “You tiptoe on that line... You’re gonna get your podcast canceled…” (54:45)
• Planning for episode 100: live audience, big celebration
  • Lavetti: “Don’t sit up here and play games with me, man. We need a date!” (56:43)

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11. Wrestling Deep Dive: Bret Hart, WCW, and the Montreal Screwjob (59:03–64:18)

• In-depth discussion of classic wrestling moments—how personal betrayals and backstage business decisions shaped talent careers.
  • “Bret Hart is trustworthy, he’s loyal, he’s not about to take the belt and go do that.” (62:23)
• Sidebar on women’s wrestling, nostalgia, and hall of fame credentials.

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12. Final Comedy & Podcast Ideas (65:01–End)

• Lavetti shares future creative ambitions: a possible new podcast, shows for both men and women, ideas called “Red Flag” for dating talk, and trying to build a home studio. Recognizes execution is key:
  • “You know, it’s all talk, no execution…” (66:45)
• Ends with trademark camaraderie and laughs about the upcoming 100th episode party.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being a star vs. being important:
  “There’s a difference between being a star and being important.” – Lavetti Vegas (09:01)
• On Hulk Hogan's complicated legacy:
  “Hulk Hogan: legendary, but also racist.” – Lavetti Vegas (23:31) “If he said black guy…this would be a totally different story. But he described us as the N word. That’s the disturbing part.” – Lavetti Vegas (24:17)
• On comedy hustle:
  “You gotta do what you gotta do: free stuff, take ills, get fans.” – Lavetti Vegas (44:50) “No doesn’t mean no, just not right now…” – Lavetti Vegas (42:45)
• On local scene visibility:
  “People know me, but they don’t know me…So let me go outside, let me be on the scene.” – Lavetti Vegas (49:09)
• On respecting himself:
  “I don’t need to stay friends with you just to get a comedy show. My respect is bigger than me.” – Lavetti Vegas (54:17)

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Useful Timestamps

• Opening & missed call nonsense: 03:00–06:00
• Name changes + analogy: 06:08–07:24
• Star vs. important rant: 09:01–09:15
• Online comedy beef story: 13:49–19:57
• Hulk Hogan discussion: 20:41–30:29
• Promo acting vs. National Guard rumors: 38:49–39:05
• Booking philosophy/free gigs: 44:50–45:50
• Comedy scene outsider talk: 47:40–52:08
• Ginger/“hard R” banter: 54:26–54:45
• Episode 100 live celebration plans: 55:26–57:49
• Wrestling memories (Bret Hart/Montreal Screwjob): 59:03–64:18
• Podcast/Red Flag concept: 65:01–66:45

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Tone and Atmosphere

Playful, irreverent, and blunt—Jeremy and Lavetti riff easily, moving from jokes to social critique to heartfelt truths about the entertainment grind. Sarcasm, inside jokes, wrestling references, and pop-culture analogies keep things lively while giving listeners real insight into the mind of a working comic.

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For Listeners

This episode is a must if you want to understand the behind-the-scenes of local stand-up, how comics navigate social media, the hustle of making a name, and why self-respect might trump short-term gigs. There’s equal parts tea, therapy, and wrestling nostalgia as Jeremy and Lavetti keep it all-the-way-real.

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Upcoming Lavetti Vegas Shows:

• Aug 8 & 30: The Backline (Omaha)
• Aug 18: Beyond the Laughter (YouTube)
• Aug 22: Babs Comedy Club, Chicago
• Aug 31: South Omaha Finest Tequila Garage

Stay tuned for episode 100—a live audience spectacle!

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

As your friend, I'm gonna allow you friend to use the hard R on me. Yeah, you, my friend. Now I'm gonna put. I'm gonna let you use the hard R because you're. You're basically ginger with us.

[D]

If. If you're trying to get that same usage for me. It's not happening. That is a one way street, buddy. I'm just let you let you know this interview will be cut abruptly if you try.

[C]

Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh With Me, a podcast with Jeremy Odom.

[D]

I'm your host. Foreign.

[C]

This is episode 99 for those of you keeping track. We are one away from triple digits. 1 00, Johnny. And as we ramp up to 100, we had to bring back one of our favorite guests that we've ever had on the podcast. He's one of our most frequented guests. In fact, he is the 2024 laugh with me podcast guest of the year. I don't know what we're gonna call him. He's changed his name a few times, but we're gonna give it a go. It is Lovetti Vegas, everybody. We're gonna give him a call right now and welcome him back. Finally. It's been a long time welcoming back to Laugh With Me. See what's up, Johnny. Maybe won't answer. Possible maybe change his number.

[D]

Your call has been for.

[C]

I think he changed his number on us, first of all, which would be. That would be such a Levetti thing to have changed his number. He knows I'm calling. I was like, hey, come on, laugh with me. And this is like now I feel like I'm getting pranked. Like episode 99. Who did. I'll tell you what, who was more responsible of a guest? The freaking Tiger King. He's in prison. He was basically right on time. That's something. This is what freedom will do to a guy. You know, that's what freedom will do to a guy. There's all kinds of stuff I want to talk about. He's got a big show actually. August 22nd in Chicago at the Babs Comedy Club. We're excited for this one. Want to see what he thought? But man, Fetty didn't answer the phone. Maybe he. It's on silent. That's. He's a busy guy. It's possible he had it on silent. He probably doesn't even know that I'm calling here. Let's. Let's try it again. Maybe it's one of those things where it's like, oh, oh, he's calling us. He's got the Betty Vegas, everybody. He's calling us. He's calling us. Hello, sir.

[D]

What's going on, man?

[C]

Hey, I thought you. I thought you changed your number when no one answered the first time.

[D]

Oh, sorry. Sorry about that.

[C]

I Was like, he changed his number on me. It's been so long since he's been on the show and he refused to talk to us.

[D]

I thought. I thought you was. I thought you was one of these hoes would be calling all the time.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, what. What do the hosts call you? Do they call you Lavetti? Do they call you Vetti? Do they call you. What other name you're gonna change in a couple weeks? Like, what do they call you?

[D]

Hey, man, you know what it is, man? You know, people call. You know what's crazy. People call me very. Anyway, that's what's even more crazy. I didn't. Why change it when it's already a nickname? It's short. You know what I mean? So, you know, I was going through a little thing. I'm still in. Believing in confidence and everything like that. But the whole change and everything, it was. I think change is fun sometimes. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And when you go. When you think about it and everything like that, it's like, oh, that's. That's nice. And especially when you've been going by something for so long, it's like moving out of a apartment. You've been there for like four years. You know what I mean? Like, oh, man, I'm going to a new apartment. And it's not that the new apartment is bad. It looks good and everything like that, but it was nothing wrong with the old apartment. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah, but most people don't move back to the old apartment. They usually just deal with the new one.

[D]

And that's why I said that's a terrible analogy. That's why I just said, I love it. That's stupid.

[C]

That's funny. Well, hey, I. You were getting some. You were getting some hate today by Lil Ray Little.

[D]

Real little.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. What's up with that?

[D]

You talking about? Let's. Let's put it out there. He's talking about Little Rail from Get Out.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He has his own stand up. He was in the Carmichael Show. It wasn't. It wasn't the. No hate. It wasn't okay, actually. And I'm a fan of D Ray Davis was another comic. And D Ray Davis I've been watching since I was 20, probably younger. Him and Mike Epps is always like somebody who wants to be. Because they like. As a comic, they're both hood. You know what I mean? They're hood and they funny, but they're not like super. If I. It's gonna. They're not super hood. They're hood enough to where like everybody, you know, you know them from everywhere. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yep.

[D]

And I've seen a clip of another podcast and this came up on my algorithm. That's what's going to be more crazy. I think it came up because I'm a fan of Dear Davis. I follow him and I follow the world. And the guy was talking about he, he is actually a known guy. I think, I think my fact remain true. He's not a star, but he is important. And I think that's what people need to separate. Like if I'm famous, but you had $3 million and let's say I was famous and only had $500,000. People, but people know me. Let's say I was in movies and everything like that. Who's the star? Well, I would be the star, but you will be important.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You see what I'm saying? There's, there's a difference between being a star and being important. You know, there's people in the White House that probably got more money and let's say, you know, just any, you know, might have more money than let's say like Triple H and WWE or something.

[C]

Right.

[D]

You know what I mean? Yeah, but, you know, but you don't know that guy. But that guy probably has more money than Triple H. It's a difference between me and star. It'd be an important and. And the two can be combined. But, you know, this was that comparison. So the guy was totally talking about D Ray Davis. Not even sort of. He was talking about the Ray Davis and how he think he's coming in being a star. But in the beginning of the clip, it was like he was comparing him to Jamie Fox. Like the dude said, when you see Jamie Fox, he knew Jamie Fox was going to be a star. When D Ray Davis said it, he didn't really believe him. He didn't really think that there was a, a connection or, or he was going to be a star. So the. In there, at the end of the clip, he did say he was wrong. And, but maybe I should have watched the, the whole interview on the people that are actually podcasting the whole page. Well, this is the thing about clips. When you post clips, you're trying to get what viewers.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You're baiting people. Let's be honest.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

You know, it didn't say he was wrong about D Ray being the star. You know, he, it. It had a, had a title that swung a certain way. So I went on there and was like, who is this guy? That. Who are these. Who are these people to say that D. Ray Davis isn't the star? Like, I know who D. Ray Davis is. I don't know any of these people. That's on here. He's a bigger starter in me and easy. And that's when Little Real came and said that. He said what he said. He said, hey, man, instead of such a. What do you say? I thought I forgot what he even said. I would have to look at it again. But. Oh, instead of such a harsh take.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Why don't you watch it and learn who they are?

[C]

Right.

[D]

Which was not a. It's not paid. It's not. This. That's a. That's a. Actually a great response.

[C]

Yeah, it was a great response.

[D]

Oh, it wasn't. He didn't attack me. I didn't attack him. And for him to even respond like that, because he responded earlier. I don't. I think he did watch it. And he already had responded earlier with a big paragraph defending D Ray Davis, too. And, But. And then the guy who was talking about him responded to D. Ray Davis, like, yeah, and I apologize for something. So. And I just left my. My take, which I'm. I'm a local comic. Know what I mean? All right. I'm. I'm with nobody. You know what I'm saying? So. And to respond to that was actually pretty. It was dope. I got a response from a comic I watched, you know, one of the comics I actually like watching. Yeah, it just. It sort of sucked that it wasn't, you know, related to how I wanted to be related. But I got a response and I wasn't trying to bait anybody. It was just. That was my take. But it also showed me, like, you don't know who's watching. You don't know who's going to.

[C]

Exactly. Especially when you're. You're posting on stuff and those clips are for everybody. So you. Yeah, you never know.

[D]

You never know. So it's like, you know, sometimes it's better to be kind or not really have a heart attack. I learned that from a comic this past weekend. Oh, not gonna say his name because he's not important enough. But he, he had. He admitted. I just think people are weird, accomplished to be weird. And I'm not friends with him. He unfollowed me. He unfriended me. I think he's blocked me on everything because I didn't roll with his opinion. I think a lot of people on social media want you to roll with what they Say so if you say, yeah, man. Man, f that guy and it's cool. But if you go against the opposite of what they say, it's. It's confidental or you're the bad guy, Right?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

In the social media world, all I didn't really learn until it was a comic in the morning shout out. She's like one of the first people that like, added me. And I didn't know her, but, like, that's what comments do. Comics just add people. They add other comics. I didn't even know I. I DM'd. You could sell it. Like, I wasn't hitting on her, nothing. It was like, who are you? Like, do I remember you? Blah, blah, blah. Oh, you. A couple times.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But this is what comics do. We have each other. I'm like, what? I didn't know this. She was like, like the first person I had to ask, like, who is this girl? And, and no, and no disrespect to David Tucker or Beyonce or nothing, but I'm looking like, damn, like the girl trying to add me. You know what I'm saying? I'm always curious, like, is this a bot? You know what I mean? Woman asked me, but I asked her. Oh, that's how this, like. Yeah. And then we met in person a couple times. I posted her for a show all one time. And she, she's, she's cool as man. She's actually pretty cool. But back to my story. If this guy.

[C]

Was it possible that the. It was about Hulk Hogan?

[D]

No. No. Okay, we go, we definitely go get to that.

[C]

Oh, we're gonna talk about Hulking.

[D]

Yeah, we're gonna get to that. Because, you know, I got some people, I had some people in the inbox. I'm like, don't, don't go to my inbox. You got something to say? Yeah, you can leave it in those comments. It's funny. It is that super quick. It's funny that I post about that and that guy's like more reactions than any comedic thing. I honestly post. Yeah. You know, I think. You know what it is though. I think it's because me being a local comedian, they're expected comedy to be posted or they're used to comedy being posted.

[C]

Right.

[D]

So when you post something that's out of the norm and, you know, being an up and coming comic, you're supposed to. What are you supposed to do? You're supposed to go by the line, man. You're not supposed to go against the grain.

[C]

You're not supposed to challenge it.

[D]

Nope. You're supposed to go with the slogan. You know, my brother was trying something. Oh, you up and come to come. And I. And I got told this years ago by another guy. He don't even talk to me. We're friends too. But I felt like I took his advice and I was like, ah, I'm gonna say what I want to say. Because when you're up and coming, you're supposed to just go with what everybody says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Don't go left field even though people agree with you. I got people that might agree and stuff like that on stuff I say all the time. And they will inbox me, but they won't comment on it, you know what I mean? Because they don't want or react on it because they don't want that heat. And shout out to the real ones that actually do that. But, you know, there's a guy, there's a lot of people that add on social media. That's what I was getting to. And he was dissing another comedian that I know on social media. I never met neither one of these guys, but he called the dude. He said he, he got mad at the guy because he said, oh, he bombed. He said he was creepy to an audience member. He walked off stage abruptly and he unbucked him, right? So I'm reading the comments and I'm like, well, damn, man, what's. You know, and really, if you creep audience, if you do crowd work, sometimes it don't go your way. It might not creep somebody out. But if you do crowd work, which that's the only way I could see him creeping the audience member off. So if you said audience member, then obviously he was on stage, whatever he was doing, right? So, you know, so you gotta, you gotta get to say who that person is, but not give context. I feel like that's so don't, don't, don't put somebody's name through the dirt if you ain't got context. Yeah, right. Like you just can't do that. So I went against the grain. I said, I'm gonna give you enough perspective, man. Because he said he got unhooked. But then in another comment, he said he was angry. And he said it to me too, like he was just upset. I said, well, you were still going to work with him. What's crazy is you were still going to work with him though, even though he creeped the audience member out. But now you got everybody calling him a creep, but you were still willing to work with him. You know what I Mean, even though he's a creep, quote unquote. Yeah, right. But since you got unbooked, now he's a creep. And now you. Now you're trying to do the right. That doesn't even make any sense. No, that doesn't. Like, you can't put somebody on blast for being a creep, quote unquote, but you're still gonna do their show, right? It doesn't even make any sense. So, so, so since. Since he's. You only calling him a creep, and the only reason he put us on blast is because he unbooked you and all. All these people talking about all. Any bombs, man. If you're a comic and you saying that you never bomb. Shut up. Yeah, shut up.

[C]

Everybody bombs.

[D]

Shut up. Shut up. You o. He. Oh, like. Like, you don't bomb, then you should be booked every weekend. If you don't bomb, you should be in Hollywood right now. If you ain't bomb, you should be in New York right now. If you don't bomb. Shut up. Stop, like, clown somebody for bombing. Then he admitted, I didn't have such a good set either. Yeah, why do you even say this guy didn't have a good set? Like, why? But the. The difference between me and him was I didn't take it out on the crowd. Who cares, right? And it was just like, this dude was such a salty man. And again, I'm not even gonna say his name because he has a good following. But I was just like, who is this guy? You know what I mean? Like, to say this. And then he got mad and was like, oh, you're somebody that I don't. I really don't want to talk to. You seem confrontational. And I was like, ah, you're probably right. And. And then he proceeds to talk about how he is. He does. He is emotional, and he does have feelings, and it just hurt him. And. Oh, man. And what I said, it's not fair. Yeah, I was gonna work with him. I don't care if he was a creep. You sound stupid. He said he's gonna get a funnier comics. That's not what he said. He told me that's not what he said. Yeah, I told me was wrong. I told other comic he was wrong. I said, hey, man, college work hard to get these dates. So if you give me a date and you cancel on me in a week, I'm gonna need some money.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Period. Because I blacked out this day, it's hard to get this date filled back up. I blacked out this day, buddy. So I'm gonna need some money, you know what I mean? And he was like, yeah, you're right, I was wrong on that aspect. But that is what happened. It's. I'm just moving on, you know. But other comment as professional, he might think that sounds. Put another comic on blast and doing what he did. That's not professional, man. You, you, you lookers. Look at that. Bookers, look at your page. Well, when you get booked, you know what book is do when you get booked, whether people think, believe it or not, they go to your social media page and it should be public because you're somebody who's trying to make it entertainment. Your page should be private. Your page is private. Then you're not really trying to make it.

[C]

That's right.

[D]

People. People got it private. It's not, you know, only thing that's private on mine, quote unquote. Actually, you know, I say that and then I just thought about it. The only thing that's private on mine is leaving a cop. You don't leave a comment for friends. You can't leave a comment on my video if we're not friends or if you're not following me. I think too think if you're following me, you can leave a comment or for. If you follow me, you can leave a comment. For friends you can leave a comment, but if you're not doing either one, you can't. Right on my videos. So.

[C]

I've got like a. I've got a separate, like the Laugh with me comedy, like has a public, you know, has a public page. I have my own personal one. My personal one is private except for everybody who's a friend or follower, whatever. But that's. I post pictures of my kids and whatnot. But the. But everything goes through both of them. Basically that's comedy related. So anybody could see anything. But. Yeah, anything on the laugh with me one. I mean, as, as public as it gets.

[D]

Yeah. And mine is. I just thought about that. I just think I got annoyed with a certain group of people leaving comments on my stuff. I might turn it off because I'm like, I might get more years if I can let people comment that I'm not parentally. But.

[C]

Oh yeah, you. Yeah, you posted the other day. You were like, hey, to the black community. What do you think about Hulk Hogan and his passing? So I had to comment. As a member of the black community, I had to comment and I did.

[D]

I was like, what is this dude doing? It's funny because you commented. I think one other non black person Commented. And then the people who reacted to it were all white. That's what's even more weird. I was like, black people, how we feel about Hogan, White people leaving a reaction. I'm like, huh? Like, it was, it just didn't, it didn't. It didn't sound right to me. But whatever. I don't know, man.

[C]

You know, as a ginger, I'm a member of the black community. You know this.

[D]

According to Tick Tock. Tick Tock is a new Wikipedia.

[C]

Tick Tock knows. Tick Tock knows. It gave me the. Okay, I'm here to say to you because I know you've come at me with the hard R on the ginger. You come at me with the hard R. I just want to say, as your friend, I'm going to allow you to use the hard R on me. Yeah, you my friend. Now I'm going to, I'm going to let you use the hard R because you're, you're basically ginger with us.

[D]

If you're trying to get that same usage for me, it's not happening. That is a one way street, buddy. You know, this interview will be cut abruptly if you try to get the same type of thing for me.

[C]

That's awesome.

[D]

Thank you. But just let you know.

[C]

That's great. So, I mean, how did Hulk Hogan. I mean, I'm sure you grew up a fan of his, right? Like most of us did. I mean, he was. He's a legend, right? The character's a legend.

[D]

Oh, man, this is a tough thing, man. And it's so crazy because somebody even said, oh, we're not trying to justify his racism in these comments. Right. And I don't think that's what was really. Maybe that was what's cool. Okay, this is the thing. It's two. It's two times when I dislike Coco, it was when he turned his back on WCW and it was the nwo. Yep. And when I heard him say the stuff he said about bloody. Right now, this is the thing. And even the nwo, did I start to like him because I was a Scott hall fan when Scott hall made less. It's weird. I'm a vegan scout. Based on. He even tweeted me when he had Twitter at the time, way before he passed, we used to tweet each other. Being Scott Hall. No, it was only like three or four tweets. And maybe somebody else was running it, but who cares? This is the thing, though. So Hulk over legendary, but also racist. I mean, that's, that's, that's what it is. Yeah. And the thing about it is in the 80s and everybody loves homie. Only reason I like it that's good was because of Scott. I like Hollywood, you know what I mean? So it's just like you love to hate them. Right. But I. I think it gets disturbing of when he said what he said. And. Yeah, that was in private. Right. And even when he. It's, you know what? You know what it is? Honestly, I'll keep it straight. I'll with you. If he said black guy, man, oh, man, like, she's cool, you know, but they hold hands. Now, if he was saying like he said black guy, this would be a totally different story.

[C]

Yeah, it would.

[D]

Right. But he described us as the N word. That's the disturbing part. Right. Like, and it could be still racist, quote unquote, if he had said black guys. But that's him describing this, right? Right. That's describing my race. If you say this black guy, you know, if somebody was like, man, who's the guy? Who was that guy who just made 20 points last night at the ball court? But he was the only black guy there. And then, you know, it's the only way to describe the guy who scored 20 points, the Black guy, you know? Right. That's not racist. That's describing somebody.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

But if you said, man, who was that n work that was wearing the basketball court last? You know what I'm saying, it's a little different. Yeah.

[C]

But you know what I'm saying? But you know what I'm saying, like.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Such a difference there.

[D]

Yeah, there's a way. There's a way to. And I watch all the political part talk about little a lot, but there's a little difference. You know what I mean? So how he said it, you know, it was just. It was so wild how he said it. And then. And Hogan. Hogan's always been about the murder. So here I'm saying, man, she can at least be doing word. He's going to be a rich in word, you know what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So it was just like, man, hearing that, it is disturbing because that's somebody that made me want to rip my shirt off that maybe do the Hulkovania, you know, I mean, get hooked up and, you know, wave your hand into the. To the ring or whatever. But let's. Racism aside, even when I watch holding those, you know, he was playing. You ever seen. Oh, yes. Yeah, he was playing. Yeah. In the car.

[C]

Yeah, that was funny.

[D]

Yeah. And he played it like four, five, six times. You know, but I used to watch. I used to watch over those best because I was like, that's one of my favorite wrestlers. So the thing about it is, even last year, I'd be super honest with you. Last year, or was it a year before? I want to say it was last year. I even forgot. If I'm being honest with you, man, I even. I saw he was coming to Hyvee and I'm like, oh, man, I gotta go see both over here. But that memory was like, oh, wait a minute. No, you know what I mean? But it was just like forgetting. But like, that's better than the childhood legend. Who was the best, the biggest wrestler of all time? Who. Who was more over than anybody in this world? Hulk Hogan. Who had the biggest heel turn in life? There's never been a bigger hill turn than Hulk Hogan. They drop in. You can't name a big old bigger hill turn. There's nobody who turned a bad guy bigger than. That was the peak. Nobody believed that happened. And how he was talking to audience afterwards. Everybody. I was in Atlanta when I had. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So.

[C]

Well, it's still being talked about. That's the thing. That's how great.

[D]

Till this. Till this day, even. Who made. Who had the biggest. Who was part of the biggest faction? In my opinion, a lot of people say anything. Everything else. Some people might say the Yanks. No, NWO was the biggest. You didn't see people with DX shirts walking around school. Walking around. You seen people with NWO shirts. I was doing the. The whole Wolf Pack sign and everything. Big. Stop it. NWO is the biggest wrestler ever, period. Hulk Hogan is the biggest wrestler in the world. Racism aside. Or not. Period. You can't. That's like, if Michael. If we found out Michael Jordan was racist right now, does that mean he's not the best in the world?

[C]

No, he's still the greatest.

[D]

Oh, he's still the greatest in the world. Michael Jordan will still be there. If you knew. This is gonna. Man, it's gonna take it to. Ah, it. We. We doing it. If we found out Michael Jordan was a pedophile. Right? He's still the greatest in the world. I hate to say it. I'm just saying if you found out, like, damn, man. It's. Dudes has kids, but he got six rings. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's hard to. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard. You know, it's not hard to just separate the two but facts are facts. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

So that's where I'm at. I'm. I'm. I'm exactly in that camp with it. Like as a, as a human he from the sounds of it. And there's some private conversations out there that it proves it. He was a bad dude. Right? But as like a character, as a professional, as who? That name, Hulk Hogan is iconic. No one will ever know anybody better. Right. In that business, it's kind of the same. And, and bear with, like, follow me here. It's kind of the same as my, as my guy. O.J. simpson. He was a hall of famer, Heisman Trophy winner. He's charismatic. He's in the movies. Everybody loves him. Ah, he got accused of some stuff. Like people. People will hold that against him. But the guy's a. Guy was a pros. Pro.

[D]

That's. And that's a. That's because that's what I made. Right. But it's the thing though. We got proof Olga was racist, right or wrong?

[C]

True. That's true.

[D]

We got proof. We got proof that O.J. simpson killed Nicole. Nicole Simpson.

[C]

No, no, no, we don't.

[D]

We.

[C]

We have proof that he stole some memorabilia of his own from deal that's about.

[D]

And that's about it.

[C]

Yeah, we don't have any proof that he's a murderer. We.

[D]

We got. We gotta. We got assumptions. So we got people that hate this dude. Off of assumptions, he got found out guilty. How you gonna still say somebody's guilty when they got found out like this? So that's my whole thing. Hogan icon, legendary racist. But we can't take NWO biggest faction, biggest Hilter, biggest baby face. Hogan carried wrestling for years. But as a person who's racist, the character, man, we're not gonna sit here and act like it wasn't the best.

[C]

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[D]

Whatever. I don't care. I'll say that Hulk Hogan, best wrestler ever. But he was racist, so it doesn't. Yeah, he died. Yeah. That is like, man, maybe I should have met him. Maybe he was. He already asked for forgiveness, you know, But a lot of times when people get caught in the fire, all suddenly they want to ask for forgiveness, but it was never. Yeah.

[C]

So now, I mean, there's always going to be that. That tension, I think, between. But Vince McMahon's got the same thing.

[D]

Vince McMahon is gonna. Vince McMahon is gonna. When he dies, yeah, it's gonna suck. But all those allegations of assaulting women and doing it and that. And that's a tough one, too. And the reason that's a tough one, too. And that's why he had to step down. Well, that's a tough one, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Reason B, man, like, because some of those allegations and some of those are true, so. And some of those are like, yeah, man. How he get away with all this?

[C]

Right.

[D]

You know what I mean? It's. It's still the. Till this day, you can't even find her. You can't Google her. You don't know what she looks like. I forgotten the name of the first woman referee. She said she got, you know, assaulted.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And I. And I remember I saw a video on it and everything about this event. You can't even find the video. Like, you can't. You. You can Google her right now, and you still can't find an image of her. You don't. You have. No. Nobody has no idea what this woman looks like till this day. All you got is the old pictures from the 80s. It's sort of like the same with the guy. I forgot his name. That did the whole thing with the Cubs when he caught the ball. You know what I mean?

[C]

Oh, yes. Yep.

[D]

You can't. You can't. You. Oh, is it Steve Berman or Steve something.

[C]

Steve Bartman.

[D]

And you still can't find a picture of him to this day. Well over 20 years later, you still can't Google and find a picture of what he looks like to this day.

[C]

Yeah. Where is that?

[D]

That is. Okay. You don't know. People don't know. That's. That's because he ain't got so much hate. Stinky guts because of that. It didn't come in the wedding, you know, years later. And it was. I heard it was kind of, you know, they couldn't find them. You know, when you get that much hate in the public eye. That was before social media, man. Just think about that happened with social media. You know, even in their referee name was like something. I forgot her name. But it's. Stuff like that happen with social media. How bigger and more impactful that type of stuff is, man. So it's. It's sad, man. Yeah. Vince versus gonna go down as that guy who carried Wrestling. Wrestling a bit. I would have never. I would have never put that. Yeah, it sounded good for doing it.

[C]

You're so.

[D]

Let's.

[C]

Let's switch gears to your. To your. You got a ton of work going on here. What. What is the status of the elevation card? Like, we've talked about it before, but what's like the status.

[D]

Man? We. We had me paying a monthly fee, hosting fee for nothing. That's that's moving, man. It is. Is. It's at a standstill, man. But it's. I just. People are busy, man. What's crazy. The only thing I need, man, is somebody I. And I. And I watched it. I always go off the roads. My brother, he always says so. And I watched this Kevin on stage. Kevin stage. I don't know if you know him or not. Wikipedia. He's playing pretty much crazy. And, you know, he was talking about posting stuff and it don't got to be perfect. It just needs to be posted. Like people are not caring about the lighting and just post it. Post what you're trying to post. Yeah, it don't have to be perfect. And I think that's my problem with elevation car a little bit. Not even mainly a little bit. My problem is I don't have nobody to. I need three people. I mean, person with the camera. I mean, somebody else with their own phone or whatever that I could tap it so I could show how it works. But what's crazy in this crazy working world is I can't find nobody to do that. That's. That's the problem. Everybody's busy. I work 50 hours a week. But I do try to find time with somebody else. Nobody really wants to do it. I think that's. Not even. Think that is the problem. So I can't show how it works. But right now, I'm at a standstill. I am trying to get some promo on the card is only $10 if you want me to ship it to you at about 250, but set a standstill. And I'm hoping this week. All right.

[C]

This week we're gonna get the elevation card out.

[D]

This week started, but I'm telling. I'm deaf. I'm dead. I just need somebody.

[C]

What about the. You're. You're working with the National Guard now?

[D]

No. Oh, no. Yes, no.

[C]

Yes, no, and yes.

[D]

It's no, I'm not signed up for the National Guard. Yes, I'm doing training promos this week.

[C]

Coming up, you're doing training promos with the National Guard. So you're. You're open to joining the National Guard, but you're not joining the National Guard. You're doing training promos.

[D]

Don't. Don't. Don't with me, man. Don't you dare with me. Let's try this one.

[C]

Let's try. Yeah, let's clear this up.

[D]

Let's try this one. Let's clear this up. No, I have not signed up for the National Guard, and I'm not trying to join the National Guard.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yes. I'm doing training promo work for the National Guard and I'm an actor for these training videos.

[C]

Perfect. I'm. I'm clear on it now. I just know a lot of people weren't. So you. What? Do you know what kind of like what your role is like? I know you're doing the training videos, but do you know what your role is like? Have you been prepping?

[D]

Oh, how about prepping? I do not know what my role is yet. No, I do not. I'm even bringing my contacts just in case. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be some real training. So I'm gonna bring my contacts with me because I've been down with the glasses now, but bring my contest with me. And I'm everything else, but I do not know what my role is. But I'm excited to do it, man. And it should be fun, man. It's something different, man. I'm always trying to do something. Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

So you got the. I'm. I'm just trying to run through my head all the stuff you got going. You got the elevation card that maybe will be out this week, but if not soon, it's a business card that's digital. Then you got the National Guard training promos. You're a former two time champ in improv now in Kansas City, you guys did lose in your third attempt to try to win it. What do you think of improv?

[D]

Their improv was cool. Improv was cool, man. But that's not what we did. If I'm being honest. That's not what we were.

[C]

You guys are preparing jokes or. Which is doing crowd work.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. That, that, that. That's not improv. We won off that. But that's not improv. And I don't want to disrespect the improv group. I want to actually improv. And we, and we actually, we did prepare jokes, but we actually did some stuff. Now what's crazy is the last time we went was the most improv we did if we lost. And I'm like, damn, man. This was actually the best we've done. But we lost. Yeah. And. And it was, it was. I felt like it was still cool, but I. It was a great experience. I watched the arena down at the back and maybe like, man, maybe I should try it. Improv, like actually try it. Like when I see these guys doing it, I was like, oh, okay, okay. This is, this is. But this is something I wanted to do. Give me a subject. Paper towels. Okay, let me talk about paper towels for the next 10 minutes. If improv it out, I think that'll sharpen my, my crowd work. I think I'll really get. My crowd worker is going to get sharper if I can do some improv and actually get into it, man. So I'm excited, man. I'm. I'm definitely going to try it. I know Dylan had a class he was doing for free on Mondays. I wish I would have took advantage of that. I don't know if you still got it. I might hit him up. But I'm definitely interested in improv.

[C]

Nice. That'll be fun. It'll just another tool in your toolbox, you know?

[D]

Yeah, man, definitely.

[C]

So you've got, you've got this growing love for improv here in the National Guard training promise. You got the elevation card, but then you got a whole list of comedy, like stand up comedy. You got shows coming up here in August. August 9th at Backline in Omaha. August 18th, your show, your YouTube show, Beyond the Laughter.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

And then the big one, August 22nd in Chicago at Babs Comedy Club. August 22nd. That'll be fun.

[D]

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. Chicago. I might. Might spend a week in there. I might just spend a day there. I haven't really. I haven't really decided. Oh, man, I. We'll see what happens, man. I was actually. Because I have my son some. Some weekends. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I know when I went to Chicago. I mean, not Chicago, when I went to Michigan, I was over there that night, spent the night and then turned back around. I was 10 hours. Chicago's a six and a half hour drive. It's not that bad. Yeah, Chicago's real. And really once you cross the Chicago line, I think it takes an hour back. So it might be five and a half hours if I'm correct. Because when I went to Michigan, the time went back. But I think it was once I was in Michigan. I don't know if it was when I was in Illinois. Yeah, but that's besides the toy Man Bass comedy club, man. This is why I tell people, man, I'm no professional by anything, but this is the same thing that pretty much happened to Michigan I acquired about Babs back in March. I said, I said. I said, damn. They never hit me. I see, like smart. But I've seen advertising a couple times. I just thought they wasn't interested. So I hit him up like, hey, guys, I was wondering, you know what I mean? Like, that's how you do it. Like, hey, I was wondering, you know, I got an updated video, you know, just case, you know, if I could get some interest. And they said, yeah, because your last videos, we just couldn't understand it. And we just. We just didn't hit you. We didn't hit you back. It was too muffled, like we couldn't understand it or whatever. And I was like, oh, okay. So I sent the new video. Got booked. That's that. Hey, so nice. Want to come here? Either the 22nd or the 8th. And I like looking my stuff out a little bit, at least the phone. So I was like, I'll give you the 22nd. You know what I mean? So I. That's. But that just shows you no doesn't mean. No just means not right now. It hit them again and get some new video. It hit him again. If they hit him again. You know what I mean? I don't necessarily have to bug people, but maybe it's something you did. So prepare something great or prepare something better. Hit them again. It happened with Michigan. I didn't get booked for Michigan for a year, year and a half. Right when I first hit up Michigan, it's like, ah, we'll see if we got a fit for you, but we don't really care that much. Blah, blah, blah. Think about this game, man. You gotta do free stuff. You gotta take ills. This is. You gotta do stuff with, not act. This is part of the game. So if you don't know what the game is, is. Is. Is. Is needed, then don't do it.

[C]

I heard people.

[D]

I ain't doing that. It's free, all right? You're gonna be local for the rest of your life. You gotta do this free. So. So if you got to do that, man, we give you 25 of some wings and you just drove five hours. But that's part of the game, man. You. You gotta know what to do or what not to do. You gotta know what's. What's best for you, what's not best for you. And sometimes that's just what it is. I gave new fans when we did. Well, we did the improv. We didn't get paid for that. Oh, we didn't get paid for that. You know what I mean? That was a show, right? Yeah, they was putting on and we volunteered to go down there. But I got. I gave some fans off of that. I had like. I had six, seven people follow. Seven people follow me. Two of Those girls that was on that stage, hey, what's your. What's your content follow? They still like myself to this day. Again, you can either choose the money or you can choose the hard work in the work ethic that's going to come with it. Some people be 150, 200. For some local. You're like, what For a local show? It's some common sense that do circles around you and they don't even want that much money. You know what I mean? So you gotta, you gotta find out which ones you want, man. So for Chicago said they do that for me. Do I got a lot of minutes? Oh, but it's. I, I guarantee you it's enough to make it no pressure. So if I could come back, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, I'm hoping to knock it out in Chicago, man. I'm hoping to have a good time, man. I've been in Kansas City plenty of time. That's all I'm in. Chicago was like a decade ago. So I feel like it's going to be a nice time. I'm gonna have fun and I'm gonna have fun in the city, man. And Chicago. That's all I can pretty much keep saying.

[C]

It's gonna be awesome. Chicago, August 22nd.

[D]

August 22nd, man. And it'd be nice, you know, get a show, another show that Saturday or get a show coming back in Venice. I don't know, maybe I'll just take a better. Chicago, August 22nd. Babs Coffee Club. I'm big. Soccer.

[C]

Very nice. And then on the 31st, you'll end the month at the South Omaha Tequila Garage. So you drink Tequila?

[D]

Yep. I, I don't drink at all. But what just got added today back one day prior. August 30th. I'm at the back line at the back on the eight. I'm at the back by 8pm I don't know the name of the show. I just got booked today for the backlight. Oh, at 8:00pm on August? Yeah, that's August 30th. Yeah, August 30th at the backlot. And I'll be at. And I'm doing that for Jared Dorsey. Shout out to my homie Jared on August 31st. Yeah, I'm at the South Omaha Finest Tequila Garage. George Zilla is hosting that show. I'll be opening it. And Cameron Ambers will be closing.

[C]

Very nice. That's gonna be a good one.

[D]

This should be a good show, man. Definitely a good show.

[C]

I gotta ask you a question. So you've Told me this before, and this is, you know, kind of. I don't know if we've. I know we've probably talked about it on the podcast, but I know you and I have talked about it off as well, where it's kind of like sometimes you felt this. That maybe you feel like you're outside of the comedy scene a little bit. Like you don't feel like you're in it. I. I disagree to. To an extent, but to an extent.

[D]

This just to an extent, I don't want to cut you off my back.

[C]

No, you're good. That's my point, I guess, is that, like, there's limits to it, but, like, why do you feel that way? And, like, what do you gain. Do you think you gain from there? Do you think it hurts you? Like, what's your. I guess your thought process about that? Because I think it's interesting.

[D]

I think. I think anything you're in as far as entertainment wise, and I'm not doing this. I want to make this perfectly clear. I'm not going to comedy shows or supporting comedy events to get booked. I'm not doing that. I'm doing it simply to support comedy, period. Like, we. It was at the Just Johnson around podcast. You know what I mean? Yeah, at that event. I heard it. We were just there. It's supportive, right? You know, I went to. I went to. I went to a tiny house show ran by, you know, made my own. Zach Peterson is supported. I've been to a couple shows in the past, like, month, and it's. And I always told myself, if I have time, I'm gonna be outside and I'm gonna support other comics. And that's not necessarily. You got to come support me. It's just. This is. It's the comedy game I'm coming to support, and I definitely think that's what needs to be had. And even when it comes to mics, you don't got to be at Mike's. Yeah, all the mics. Every week I'm gonna hit a mic Micro two at least once a week. Because the thing about me is, And I. I heard it a good amount of times is people know me, but they don't know me. They see me on there. They see me on social media. They see what I post to see. I got a lot of shows, but they never see me in person. They never talk to me really in person. They never interact with me in person. So I'm like, you know, let me. Let me go outside, man. Let me go outside. Let me be on the seat. I need to hit Mike. I definitely practice. Everybody practice, you know what I mean? And let's hit the mic. Let's hit some shows, support. Support other commerce, what they're doing and actually be a part of the scene, man, because it's beautiful, man. It's got a lot of great comics in the scene. And that's some okay topics in the sea. But so not everybody's gonna be. Not everybody's gonna make it for whatever making it is. And people's opinions, different definitions of making it. Right. So it's. It's best people see me on social media, but I hear it all the time. Hey, man, it's good to see you out there, man. It's great to see you all more, man. It's cool to see you here, man. Damn, man. Hey, man, what you doing here? Oh, man, you know, it's like a. So it's like, I wouldn't compare it to, like, Scott hall going to wcw. Yeah. When people see me. But I compare it to, like, Lex Luger going to wc.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't put it to that extent, but Lex Luger is probably the better comparison than Scott Hall. Like, damn. What. What is he doing?

[C]

He walks in on Monday night. Monday nitro. And it's like, what?

[D]

Yeah, in the mall. You know what I mean? He has the white shirt on with the. You know, with the blonde hair down, you know, I remember I hit a mic like I was at a show. No, I hit a mic, you know, I'm not gonna say which one. And some people were scared, like, what is he doing here, man? What are you about to say?

[C]

What's he doing?

[D]

Oh, man, is he mad at me still? I'm like, man, I got. I gotta be. And honestly, regardless of what you see in the past couple weeks, I don't gotta be for nobody. I don't got no problems with nobody. I just move on. Like, I. I don't got no beef for anything.

[C]

You got no beef with anybody right now?

[D]

No beef? No beef.

[C]

Interesting.

[D]

No. And the guy was like, hey, man, these comments are worried that you're here. I said, what? He's like, I don't know. But you got them scared, man. I was like, what? I'm like, bro, I'm just here to do jokes, man. Like, for real. They was really shook. It was really shook from what he told me. And I'm like, you playing around here like, oh, man, like, they scared. But it was just like, man, that's the image that they have. And that's sad, because I want to scare somebody. That's wild.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But, yeah, no. No beef. No beef. Nobody.

[C]

Like, we went to. Like you were saying, we went to Zach and Jocelyn's live podcast at her dad. I. I just thought it was cool. Like, I wanted to go support it and. And see the show. Like, I've. You know, I've watched their show or I've listened to their shows before, but I. It was cool that they were doing it in the bar, and I was like, yeah, 100 want to go support this? And it was convenient for me. The time of day was so. It was like, all right, it makes sense. Like, let's go.

[D]

Yeah, very convenient. Very convenient. I was like, man, I. I get off a few minutes early just because that's literally an exit down from where I'm working. Said 15 minutes of my. On my GPS, as soon as I started driving, it said seven minutes. I'm like, what the hell is this? And really, I felt like it took me the long way. I said, I could have just went to. I could have just went two angles down there, and I would have been down. They took me all the way around. It didn't even take me the highway when it took me around. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, yeah, man. It's just a support, man, and it's support people, man. And if people don't like you, just keep it moving.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I can have a discussion, and I've had a couple discussions past month with a couple comments that I felt, you know, had a problem or a situation, and I discussed it. You can either talk about it. We could be friends, or we could talk about it. We can still be cool and cordial, But I. I just can't mess with you. That's why I dropped out of two shows, you know, recently. That's just, you know, friends are going to be friends, but friends don't. Friends talk. Talk about situations, talk about problems. Friends don't tell other people about it. They don't resolve it and stay talking to you in your face. I don't. I didn't support that. So I dropped out of two shows, and that was just out of mere respect. You're not just gonna do that. And I still respect that person. I just don't respect what they did.

[C]

Yeah. Use the wrist for, like, the person.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The messenger's cool, but the message you were sitting was false. Advertisement let's. Let's stop, because I'm not gonna tell all the business you was telling Me. Because you were. You thought it was great to tell my business, which is a little weird to me, so. You know, I'm not a comedy hoe. I don't need to.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Stay friends with you to get a comedy show. Oh, no, let me stay friends with you because I need these shows. Yeah. I never need a show. My respect is bigger than me.

[C]

Yeah. Your work will get you the shows.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What. What a good friend would do. And this is. Remember I told you this is what I do for you as a fellow Ginger. You can use the hard R for me, for Ginger anytime. I just. I want to put that back out there again. That. I appreciate you. You can use that anytime with me.

[D]

You. You tiptoe on that line, man. You keep going, man. You gonna get your podcast cancel, right? Don't laugh with me. You know what I mean? That's. That's. That's gonna be the new name of it, man.

[C]

This is episode 99. I'm gonna get canceled right before 100. I can just feel it, man.

[D]

I thought we was. I thought we was doing 100. I thought this was 100.

[C]

No, this is 99. This is 99. Yeah.

[D]

I should have skipped it. I should have.

[C]

You should have skipped this one again. And then we could have had you on for a hundred. Yeah, like. Like you won't be invited onto 100. Come on.

[D]

Yeah, but, man, I thought she was, man. What? What? Since we talking about stuff, man. You asked me questions, man. Hold on, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

What's going on with the hundred, man? I thought we was gonna do it big. I thought she was gonna do, like, we're gonna do it Peterson thing, man. What's up, man? What's going on?

[C]

Well, that's the thing. I'd be lying if I said I also wasn't excited to go see Zach and. And Jocelyn's podcast so that I could watch how they did it, because we got to do Laugh with Me live. And the plan was always episode 100. Here's what I'm thinking. It's going to be in 100 episode celebration live show. So we're going to do 100, and it's going to be different than, like this. It's going to be a special episode, but we're still going to have the live show. It's going to be a celebration of 100 episodes. Does that make sense?

[D]

So. So it's going to be a celebration. So we're doing it live, but it.

[C]

Ain'T going to be so. Yeah, well, there's gonna be an Audience? No, no, there's gonna be an audience. We're doing a live show. It's gonna be. It's gonna be different than just the regular podcast.

[D]

So. So when? Where?

[C]

Why?

[D]

Got an invite or, you know.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I got you. We're gonna get the date that works.

[D]

No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about me. Hold on.

[C]

Why? I couldn't. We need.

[D]

Y. We need to send invites. We need about 30, 40 people there.

[C]

Oh, 100.

[D]

Like, we need. We need all. Man, don't. Don't sit up here and play games with me, man. We need to. We need a date.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

We had 99 today.

[C]

This is 99.

[D]

July, and it's July 27th.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

You ain't about to sit here and hold off, you know? What are we doing, man?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean? We need to.

[C]

Yeah, this is definitely a live show that, you know, I just. I don't want to spoil the surprise. Coming on episode 100. I just want to put that out there. But.

[D]

So you're gonna do. You're gonna do 100, but you're gonna celebrate it later, Correct. Oh, come on, come on, come on.

[C]

No, it's gonna be. It's gonna be different. It's not gonna do. Just be a live podcast. It will be a live podcast, but it's going to be more than that. It's going to be a show. It's going to be. It's going to be different. It's going to be big. It's going to be big. Okay. Have you ever heard somebody be like, is. It's going to be big. Have you ever heard somebody say that?

[D]

Everybody.

[C]

Well, the president.

[D]

What?

[C]

The. The president. Oh, we have more presidents.

[D]

Oh, the current president.

[C]

The current president.

[D]

If I seen Obama right now, I'd.

[C]

Call him the president. Yeah, I would call him the president as well. Yeah. I still call him president as well, but no, that's. Is it weird that I don't call Biden president? I call him Uncle Joe.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I don't really call him that.

[D]

I know you don't.

[C]

I love how you let me say all those things about Hulk Hogan, O.J. simpson, but don't. With Joe Biden. Like, he's the president. Yeah, that's true. Hey, I've got respect for the office.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So on episode 100, we're gonna have some news. You're gonna be a part of this thing. I don't know why you're getting so upset.

[D]

I didn't say I wasn't gonna be a part of it but it's not about what you, what you got planned. It's about the execution. Another point.

[C]

Oh, I'm not scared of execution. I and the excellence of execution.

[D]

I'm not.

[C]

Bret Hart.

[D]

Who was Bret Hart. I know he said that. I knew, I knew I was about to say Bre was funny. He was one, he was one of my favorite wrestlers too. Best to ever will be.

[C]

Never thought that I should have said that line. You would have.

[D]

Yeah, I, I, I know that execution. But look, the shadows, man, made me look at Vince McMahon and all them a lot different, man. I was so pissed off when I watched that.

[C]

I love that stuff though. Like the behind the scenes stuff. Like I was mad too because it's like they're dissing on and they're really like taking advantage of a guy's like life and his professional career. Like that was some.

[D]

But he just, he just wasn't the same man either. Yeah, yeah. I hated Triple H as a fan. I hated Shop Michael fan. I hated this.

[C]

So people say his career ended when Goldberg kicked him. Right? Kicked him and got the concussion. Right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's what they say. But let's be honest, it wasn't right. He walked when he walked into wcw. Yes, correct.

[C]

Well, even before then when he had the, the entire Montreal screw job, I think that messed with him mentally and then mentally.

[D]

But that, that didn't. He should have did what's best for business, right?

[C]

Yeah, he should.

[D]

And they couldn't. And they couldn't afford Bret Hart anymore according to them. They just couldn't. What they what WCW was paying guys and you only had to work two days a week as the, the WWE schedule, which was wwf, you had to work like four or five days a week. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So it's like, it's like this. The schedule was better and the pain was better, but even the Montreal school job. I love Burnhardt. I love what he was talking about. But do we see Vince McMahon literally saying no for him to drop the belt the next night on Raw?

[B]

Right.

[D]

I don't really see men saying, nah, you can't do that, you need to drop it tonight. And he was afraid that he was gonna do like a Medusa type thing and throw them in trash Burn Hart wasn't that type of guy though. Why would he throw it in the trash when he still had weeks in his contract left after the Monster School job so they like you could take it with him, you know what I mean? To do what Medusa did. Medusa's contract expired and they didn't know she went to wcw. She'd be that thing in the tracks. You see what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I would still be afraid of my champion doing that. Okay, not because.

[D]

Okay, but. But I gotta cut you off.

[C]

No, you're good. You're good. I just. It's just.

[D]

Medusa. Is she a Hall of Famer?

[C]

Is she.

[D]

What is she? Hall of Famer? It's Medusa hall of Fame.

[C]

I think she is.

[D]

Okay, we'll look that up. Even here, nor there.

[C]

Yeah. Will you look at that, please?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that. I don't. I don't know if she's the hall of Famer. Has she had the iconic match? I mean, has she wrestled there? Has she wrestled? Right. WrestleMania. Does anybody really even know? What if Medusa walked down the street right now? Do you know what she looks like?

[C]

I think I would. No. Well, I guess how she looks back then, I wouldn't know.

[D]

Stop, stop, stop. I don't even remember how she looked back then. She wasn't even a top 10 woman champion or whatever back then. Stop it. Bret Hart is trustworthy. He's loyal. He's not my detective. Belt and go do that. He wouldn't do that. WWE was letting him go to wcw. He wouldn't do that. So why would you not trust this man? You trust someone else to give him the belt, to give it back. I don't know. He got. But again, you gotta do what's best for business, man. It was best for business was dropping that belt, man. Believe it or not, as much as I hate to even say that, that was best of business. Drop that belt and keep it moving, man. That was best for business. But he didn't do that. And we got the Monster Screwdriver, which till this day, people say they don't know if it's real. Well, they don't know if it's fake. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah. So Medusa is in the WWE hall of Fame Class of 2015 under the Alundra Blaze name.

[D]

I don't even know if she went by.

[C]

And. And this one, this one's close to home. She is being inducted into the George Luthi's hall of Fame in Waterloo, Iowa, this weekend. Or last weekend, whenever that was last weekend looks like.

[D]

No, no, no disrespect to Medusa. There's. I don't know how. She's.

[C]

Probably Ford doing the very thing that we're talking about.

[D]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, I I don't know, because you got Jacqueline, you got Sable, Mickey James. I mean, I can go through. Oh, yeah, women right now, tons. That, that just. That just. That just kills. That should be in the hall of fame right now. Yeah, but, you know, it is what it is. I mean, every dog has his day, so it is what it is.

[C]

That's right. All right, well, Chicago, August 22nd, Babs Comedy Club. Lavetti Vegas or Vetti Vegas or whatever you're going to be called by then. August 22nd.

[D]

August 22nd. Yeah, but before the locals, man. For the locals, man. For the locals. August 8th, that line. August 30th, back line, right. 31st South Omaha finest Tequila Garage. So if you want to catch me, got three times to catch me. Which, you know, last year around this time when we spoke, man, I did a lot of out of town shows and I really do local shows, but now people can catch me locally, man. I think that's actually fantastic also.

[C]

Yeah, you've been doing a lot of local shows.

[D]

Actually, I think it's imperative. Yeah, it's very impressive. I'm excited.

[C]

My show, My show is actually taking full credit for that. So that's. Honestly, you're welcome, Omaha. So that's cool.

[D]

Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, you gotta. You got great, great promos, man. I love doing your thing. I. I might have, you know, I don't think. I wouldn't even call it a podcast. I got an idea. Hopefully I can stay consistent with it. Oh, I want. The podcast might be something like daily talking about relevant topics and everything like that. I got two ideas. I really hope one of them, because, I mean, come on, I'm trying to get like a home. Be honest with you, man. Not necessarily what you're doing, but like a home type studio to really get it going, man. You know, to get people, people revved up. And I want to have women and men be related to it because I wanted to do a sports thing, but that just will relate to men. And I was like, man, I really like to have both type of audiences, man. So I want to have a show that's like as relevant topics. I do every other day. Oh, I want to talk about relationship stuff, which I'm single, so it's sort of hard to really do that. I'm a mid easy and it's called Red Flag. I want to have a podcast called Red Flag. You know, people tell me about what they do with the red flag and the person they're talking to when I give advice, but I'm a dog Man, I'm a hoe, so I don't know if that's a great.

[C]

We could talk about like Love island for like, you know, tough stuff that would attract to the female audience. We could talk about Love Island.

[D]

You do what you want with your talk about my. Yeah, that's just my bro. I got some. I got some ideas. I didn't really want to talk about it too much because we could talk in there too. Don't happen.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

You know, it's all talk, no execution, man. So that's definitely where I'm at, man. But I appreciate you, man, as always. Been last me podcast. The. The. The. The best podcast in Nebraska. Shout out to everybody else, but, you know, I gotta roll with who I roll with, man. You know what I'm saying? So let's do the Damn thing, man. 100th episode, episode celebration with two people there.

[C]

Oh, it's gonna be great. Oh, it's gonna be great.

[D]

You ain't got a Facebook invite to invite people so we can get an audience.

[C]

So I'll do all these things.

[D]

You.

[C]

You act like I've never planned a thing in my life.

[D]

It's gonna be me, you with some blow up dogs.

[C]

Oh, that's gonna be a hell of a party. You're gonna need to do some tequila shots if we're gonna have that kind of party. Just heads up.

[D]

Shots. Okay. Baby oil. Keep it at home, man. Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm not trying to. I don't know how party you think this is about to be, but I'm.

[C]

Gonna bring my own. No, I got an uncle coming to town. My uncle Diddy's coming. It's gonna be a heck of a party.

[D]

Yeah, you probably. He probably lets you use the hard R too.

[C]

Yeah, he would. All right, thanks, man.

[D]

Ain't no foreign.

[B]

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