
Our guest today, Jen Wang, holds a PhD from Stanford in behavior sciences, judgment, and decision-making. She built her product career at ThredUp, and now serves as Chief Product Officer and go-to-market lead at Framework. That combination — behavioral scientist plus operating CPO — gives her a rare lens into the most urgent question in product leadership right now: how do you lead and build when the ground is shifting faster than anyone can follow? In this episode, we talk about: * The decision-making behind why Framework scrapped their roadmap * Why iteration, not technical proficiency, has been the most important skill to drive AI adoption in teams * There’s actually a scientific reason why everyone’s so overwhelmed, and it’s called the “Zone of Absorption”