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Zach Goldbaum (4:50)

It may sound strange, but the dolphin soldiers that appeared in the Black Sea in 2023 were actually not a totally new phenomenon. They signaled a return to an old program that many thought had died with the fall of the Soviet Union. For years, the USSR tried to use dolphins to advance their military goals, and so did America. In fact, using animal labor in combat goes way back. From carrier pigeons to horse mounted cavalry to Hannibal riding an elephant to attack Rome. Humans have a long history of deploying wild beasts in wartime, but more recently, technology has mostly put an end to the practice. Mostly, today's episode is about war's toll on wildlife, both as an accidental casualty of combat and through deliberate exploitation. In 1965, Blair Irvine was on the verge of graduating from a small liberal arts college in California, but he was feeling lost. Then, two days before accepting his diploma, he was introduced to a marine biologist who happened to be looking for someone to fill a unique summer job.

Blair Irvine (6:01)

I'm sitting next to his desk. He explained that they had this dolphin and he wanted to get that dolphin to Hawaii and needed somebody who would help the dolphin along the way.

Zach Goldbaum (6:11)

Blair didn't have a science background. He was a sociology major. But with no job prospects and no idea what he wanted to do with his life, he said yes.

Blair Irvine (6:22)

I don't think I'd ever even seen a video of dolphins. So I went out to see the dolphin before. I went a couple days beforehand and I standing down there with a Navy seaman, a young kid, and I'm watching this dolphin swim in this area and he said, that's the dolphin you're going to carry to Hawaii. This is very embarrassing. At this age. But I said well what's that thing on the top of this, on the top of his head where it seems like water or air is coming out?

Zach Goldbaum (6:55)

And that was the blowhole?

Blair Irvine (6:56)

That was the blowhole, yes. And I, you know subsequently I learned a lot more about blow holes and dolphins of course.

Zach Goldbaum (7:05)

Soon after, Blair boarded a cargo plane with a female bottlenose dolphin named Alice. When the summer came to a close, someone he'd met on his journey to Hawaii gave him a call with a new full time job offer for a secret project with the US Navy at a base called Point Magoo.

Blair Irvine (7:24)

Point Magoo is the naval air station about 25 miles north of Malibu along the coast of Southern California. There's a big lagoon and facing the ocean from that lagoon is a very thin peninsula and that's where the marine mammal facility was.

Zach Goldbaum (7:41)

Blair had been invited to become a dolphin trainer for a program he did not even know existed.

Blair Irvine (7:47)

In the early 60s the Navy started to become much more interested in marine mammals, especially whales and dolphins because their submarines are running around and their ships are running around and then they think about well this dolphin can swim up and down and so on and marine, maybe we've seen them in Oceanaria. Why don't we train one to see if it could help us somehow?

Zach Goldbaum (8:09)

It wasn't just the Navy that was interested in dolphins. In the 1960s dolphins were in the zeitgeist. The year before Blair started at Point Mugu, Flipper, a hugely popular TV series about a crime fighting dolphin had premiered on NBC.

Blair Irvine (8:24)

They call him Flipper.

Zach Goldbaum (8:25)

Flipper. This was all happening at the same time that the Cold war was intensifying. Both the US and our Soviet enemies were secretly experimenting with all sorts of strangers than fiction, weaponry, things like psychokinesis or the ability to move objects with your mind. There were attempts to geoengineer the weather and the CIA even conducted experiments with high doses of lsd. And I guess in that one way me and the CIA aren't so different after all. It was in the midst of that Cold War hysteria that Blair Irvine showed up for his first day of work.

Blair Irvine (9:01)

I'm walking in totally naive. And when I first came out, the first day I was there was the last day of the current trainer. He's an old circus trainer. So I went to see him do his last training stint with his dolphin named Tuffy, who I was going to inherit offshore.

Zach Goldbaum (9:21)

Tuffy, which was short for tough guy, was kept in a large ocean pen not far from the shore. So Blair and the outgoing trainer jump in an amphibious vehicle called a duck boat to visit him. When they get there, Blair finally meets Tuffy, a roughly 7 foot long, 250 pound dolphin with a scar from an old shark bite he'd survived before he was taken into captivity.

Blair Irvine (9:43)

The guy who is the trainer climbs in this little, what we call a pulpit so he's half emerged in the water. And he puts a harness in the water so Tuffy can go and swim into the harness so they can do the work they want to do. And Tuffy approaches it. Bang. Tuffy bites him, the old circus trainer. And here I am going, oh, my God, what the hell am I getting into here? And that's my introduction to the dolphin. I'm going to train.

Zach Goldbaum (10:12)

At first, training Tuffy seemed hopeless.

Blair Irvine (10:15)

Tuffy was a throwaway because he was untrainable. They'd lower the water to do something and he'd run around snapping and feet and ankles and things. That's why they called him Tuffy.

Zach Goldbaum (10:25)

But eventually, another young trainer figured out an unconventional way to get through to Tuffy.

Blair Irvine (10:31)

Early on, he would come by her with an erection and rub her leg. So she let him do that if he was doing what she wanted, but if he wasn't, then she would move her leg away. And so that's part of the way she got him to come around to become a dolphin who could be trained.

Zach Goldbaum (10:50)

I wish I could say that I never thought I'd be talking about dolphin erections on the podcast, but deep down, I think I always knew. Anyway, once Tuffy warmed up, Blair was able to break through to him too. They developed a bond. But through it all, Blair, like the dolphin he trained, remained a tough guy.

Blair Irvine (11:08)

I was always interested in them and curious about them and feeling compassion towards them, but not this. I mean, some people get pretty gaga over dolphins, and it's never been part of my shtick, if you will. I never fell in love with them.

Zach Goldbaum (11:26)

Blair's stoic approach to the work paid off. In one early experiment, Blair, Tuffy and four naval vessels sailed to an island off the coast of Los Angeles. They trained Tuffy to mark the location of an undetonated anti submarine rocket. In another, they traveled to a series of islands near Santa Barbara so Tuffy could track down sea mines.

Blair Irvine (11:48)

So this is the non warfare part of the way dolphins can help the Navy with efficiency in terms of solving some problems that save money, essentially was the deal. On one hand it was Buck Rogers, on the other hand it was Boy Scouts.

Zach Goldbaum (12:05)

The Navy learned a lot about what marine mammals could do. They could Locate and retrieve lost objects. They could guard boats and submarines and even perform underwater surveillance. Tuffy himself learned how to deliver mail and tools to an underwater research lab and could guide lost divers back to safety. Then, two years into Blair's tenure with the Navy, he's called into his superior's office.

Blair Irvine (12:31)

So about this time, Vietnam was starting to heat up. This is 1968, and so they, they brought me into the office and I remember everybody, the brass was there and even somebody wearing a tie and, and they're just looking at me and they say, can you teach a dolphin to find swimmers? And I went, I guess, how do you want to do it? And they said, we don't care, just figure it out.

Zach Goldbaum (12:57)

By this point, the program had seemed largely harmless. The dolphins were being used in a defensive capacity and as an efficiency tool. But this is the United States military, which likes to boast that it's the most lethal fighting force in the world. So it seemed like it was only a matter of time before the program transformed into something else. Was there ever an instance where you were asked to train the dolphin to kill?

Blair Irvine (13:22)

No, just the idea of training an animal to kill a human. The whole concept is wrong from my point of view. They never asked me to do that. And I also said that if that was to be my next project, I quit.

Zach Goldbaum (13:36)

Eventually, Blair did decide to leave the program. His departure had nothing to do with killer dolphins. He was simply ready to move on. The marine mammal program continued without him. And a couple years after he left, stories began to trickle out about how the Navy had begun using dolphins in combat. It's 1971 in Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam. It's a deep water inlet tucked off the coast of the South China Sea. Its high green hills hide one of the largest US Naval bases in the country. As the Vietnam war rages, six US Naval recruits patrol the waters. Their job protecting a fleet parked along the white sandy beaches from North Vietnamese military scuba divers. These recruits can spot a swimmer up to 1,200ft away. That's because they're, wait for it. Military dolphins. And their sonar allows them to notice high frequency pings that bounce underwater. Suddenly, a 300 pound bottlenose dolphin takes off through the water, sensing an unfamiliar object moving toward the ships it's trained to protect. His long snout is fitted with a muzzle carrying a heavy gauge hollow needle connected to a CO2 cartridge. When the dolphin nears the North Vietnamese swimmer, he plunges the needle through his wetsuit. Here's how one CIA dolphin researcher describes what allegedly happened after ripping the muscle planes of tissue apart, the continuing expansion of the gas brings about the prolapse of the colon through the rectal orifice, while the stomach in turn is caused to balloon through the mouth. To put it More simply, the CO2 makes the swimmer explode. The Navy vehemently denied the specific story I just told you, which was first reported in penthouse magazine in 1977. I swear I only read it for the article. The Navy also denied anyone was ever killed by dolphins in Vietnam or that killer dolphins even existed. Blair, too, thinks the story is bs.

Blair Irvine (15:48)

So much of this is developed by the media. You know, somebody's got a great idea and then they talk about it, and then it suddenly has become something that really happened. I'm certainly not the to know because every time I read any article like that, I went, oh, that's baloney.

Zach Goldbaum (16:03)

Baloney or not, six years after this incident supposedly took place, something happened in Hawaii that gave a bit more credence to the fantastical tale of the killer dolphins. One morning in 1977, Dolphin researchers headed into work at the Oceanarium at the University of Hawaii. They unlocked the doors, and as they peered into the school's massive tank, they expected to see two Atlantic bottlenose dolphins. Instead, they found two toy rubber dolphins bobbing in the pool. Each had a note. One said, slave no more, and the other, let my people go. Months later, Michael Greenwood, a scientist formerly hired by the Navy, would testify that the CIA was planning to sell those two dolphins to kill enemy swimmers in Latin America. So in the dead of night, two of his younger associates freed the dolphins into the wild. At the trial for one of the men who was being charged with theft, Greenwood told the jury that while he wasn't sure if divers were killed in Kamaran Bay, he knew that there were dolphin recruits being used as weapons in the war effort. I asked Blair Irvine about Greenwood's comments in the the Kamaran Bay incident, but he was still skeptical. He had seen the CIA's counterpart to the Naval Marine Mammal program, and to put it bluntly, it was a shit show.

Blair Irvine (17:31)

The dolphins were apparently fornicating under the pier and all sorts of stuff, and so that's why I got the job. We got the job is because the CIA had screwed it up so badly.

Zach Goldbaum (17:41)

Whatever the truth, the program and the tall tales that surfaced alongside it were part of a great power rivalry. We were dreaming up new ways to outwit and outmaneuver our adversaries, but they were never far behind.

Blair Irvine (17:55)

We sort of heard, but again, probably through the Media that the Russians had a comparable program to ours. I mean, it made sense. Why wouldn't they?

Zach Goldbaum (18:04)

And a declassified document from 1976 confirmed that the CIA was aware that a similar program existed. Within the next year, the report reads, the Soviets could train marine mammals to be used in military operational systems in the black Sea.

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Blair Irvine (19:22)

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Blair Irvine (19:50)

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Quick, quick, quick. It's the fastest way to have fun. In 1966, just a year after Blair Irvine arrived at Point Mugu, the Soviet navy started its own dolphin research program in the Black Sea port city of Sevastopol. The Russians were well aware of the American program and conducted similar research experiments to test the efficacy of dolphin surveillance and weapon retrieval. But they also allegedly thought a bit more outside the box, especially their chief trainer, a marine biologist named Dr. Boris Gharid. The Moscow Times reported that once in the mid-1980s, Dr. Jharid found himself in a helicopter hovering about 50ft above the sea of Japan. He's with a companion, someone you wouldn't expect to see inside of a helicopter. A slippery character that. Okay, who am I kidding? At this point in the story, you probably figured out that it's a dolphin. There's a dolphin in the helicopter. Dr. Girid releases the dolphin, who is wearing a parachute. Then he follows the creature into the water below. Dr. Girid is trying to see if they could be used as naval rescue animals. Unclear where he landed on that one other than inside the Sea of Japan. But a few years later, after the fall of the Soviet Union, Dr. Jharid was no longer doing high flying escapades.

Dr. Pavel Goldin (21:40)

Everyone knows there was Sevastopol.

Zach Goldbaum (21:46)

That's Ukrainian marine biologist and zoologist Dr. Pavel Goldin again. He grew up in Crimea and remembers seeing the Russians dolphin program in Sevastopol.

Dr. Pavel Goldin (21:55)

I visited it when I was a student and I talked to the researchers who worked there. That's how I've met Dr. Jharid.

Zach Goldbaum (22:06)

After the Soviet Union collapsed, Crimea became part of Ukraine, and the Sevastopol Naval Dolphinarium was open to the public for dolphin shows. Dr. Gharid stuck around the naval base at Sevastopol, and it was transformed into an oceanarium for tourists. The dolphin soldiers became entertainment for school children. By the early 2000s, the facility had fallen on hard times. And unable to afford food and medicine for his animals, Dr. Jharid sold all 27 of his dolphins, sea lions, beluga whales and seals to Iran. Dr. Boris Jharid refused to abandon his animals. So he and his wife picked up and relocated to Iran, saying, I'm prepared to go to Allah or even the devil, as long as my animals will be okay there. Dr. Gharid's departure seemed to mark the end of Russia's military marine mammal program. But in 2014, Russia would illegally annex Crimea, seizing the dolphinarium in the process. Then, a few years later, something strange would surface in the frigid waters of the Arctic that made it clear the program was very much alive. Norway's Ingoya island is home to a tiny fishing village and not much else. It sits on the edge of the Arctic Ocean, only accessible by boat. But it's where Norwegian commercial fisherman Joar Hesten and his family call home. On the afternoon of April 26, 2019, Yoar was at sea with his brother and father. He's changing nets when he suddenly sees a white object flash in the water. At first he thinks it's a halibut. They're known to do what's called sunbathing, where they bask at the surface of the water. But when the boat gets closer, he realizes it's something else, something he's never seen in the more than 20 years he's fished in these waters. A beluga whale. As the whale continues to swim alongside the boat, Yoar notices that there's something, maybe a rope wrapped around its body. The fishermen radio for help, worrying the whale is in distress. Soon, an officer from the Norwegian Directorate of Fisheries arrives. He has expertise in releasing whales from fishing equipment. But as the officer approaches the animal, he can see that he's not tangled in anything. He's strapped into a harness. Yoar steps onto the official's raft and they reach their hand out, trying to unstrap the harness. The whale continues to swim alongside the boat, but it's a struggle. They feed the whale fish. Then they start filming, putting the camera underwater to see how to get the obstruction off. The whale is playful, like he spent time around people before, but they still can't seem to get the harness off of him. Eventually, Yoar offers to go into the water. He puts on a wetsuit and jumps in. Finally, he reaches his hand down one last time and snap. He's able to get the harness off. Back on the boat, they notice that it's not just any harness. The strap has mounts for a GoPro camera, and printed on the buckle are the words Equipment st. Petersburg. It wouldn't take long for the story of the whale and its connection to Russia to go viral. And in Arctic Norway, a fishtail filled with intrigue after a beluga whale was spotted swimming around with a tight harness. The whale, seemingly used to human contact, had been fitted with a GoPro harness. The whale was wearing a harness marked Equipment St. Petersburg, prompting speculation it was a spy trained by the Russian navy. Norwegians dubbed the whale Valdemir Wal, meaning whale in Norwegian and dimir. Well, that's a plan. Vladimir. As in Vladimir Putin. While the world speculated about the meaning of the words on the buckle. Equipment, st. Petersburg. Russian journalist Sergey Dobrnin recognized it immediately.

Sergey Dobrynin (26:24)

One of the first Russian producers of touristic gear, it was called equipment. So I knew immediately when I saw the logo that it was just bought from this company. It meant nothing, but so it was just a brand.

Zach Goldbaum (26:38)

As an investigative reporter for Radio Free Europe, Sergei typically covers Russian military operations, spies and assassinations. So the story of a fugitive beluga whale, fun as it was, did not hold his interest.

Sergey Dobrynin (26:51)

Then I forgot about it. And then about a year later, we just stumbled upon it doing totally different investigation.

Zach Goldbaum (27:02)

After Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned in August of 2020. The suspected cause was a nerve agent developed during the Soviet Union called Novichok. Navalny miraculously survived, only to die in a Russian prison almost four years later. But Sergei wanted to know who was behind the revival of this lethal poison. He and his reporting partner, Mark Krutov decided to investigate. And they stumbled upon a suspicious group of Russian chemists.

Sergey Dobrynin (27:32)

We noticed that these guys represent organization called Signal, but nobody ever heard about it. It was really strange organizations on its face.

Zach Goldbaum (27:41)

SIGNAL did mundane research on stuff like nutritional supplements or sports drinks. But Sergey and other journalists from outlets like Bellingcat were able to learn that under the guise of civilian research, Signal continued to produce Novichok. That's like finding out that the people who make monster energy drinks are secretly in the poison business. Wait a minute, that. That actually sounds somewhat plausible. But Sergey's investigation did not stop there. He and his reporting partner learned that Signal is one of three organizations under the umbrella of a larger secretive entity called the Federal Service for Technical and Expert Control. And this is where it all connects back to marine mammals.

Sergey Dobrynin (28:24)

And in Russia, these names of institutes are pretty often quite deceiving. So it's very generic.

Zach Goldbaum (28:29)

These generic names camouflaged more sinister activities. In addition to SIGNAL and an organization building satellites that could shoot down other satellites, there was a third organization under this umbrella. It was based in the Arctic port town of Murmansk, just a few hundred kilometers from the small Norwegian island where Valdemir the beluga whale was spotted. To get a closer look at what this mysterious facility was up to, Sergey turns to a little tool those of us in the investigative journalism world like to call Google Maps.

Sergey Dobrynin (29:08)

Google Maps sometimes has very decent satellite images and quite up to date.

Zach Goldbaum (29:13)

As they zoom in on the map, they're struck by something in the water.

Sergey Dobrynin (29:19)

You see, it's small, like, I think they were in the shape of octagons or something like that.

Zach Goldbaum (29:26)

Inside these floating octagon shaped pens were a number of pale white dots. He thinks they're belugas. To confirm his suspicions, Sergei does the mundane work of scouring government procurement websites.

Sergey Dobrynin (29:41)

So in state procurements, just your guess, what do they have to buy if they keep belugas?

Zach Goldbaum (29:47)

Fish.

Sergey Dobrynin (29:48)

Frozen fish. Yes.

Zach Goldbaum (29:50)

This was the smoking gun they needed. The Russians were buying fish to feed two teams of marine mammals, one in the north and one in the south, in the Black Sea, at the Sevastopol Dolphinarium Valdmir was indeed an escaped military asset. Now, to this day, we don't know for sure what the Russians were up to with Valdemir. But the first theory that emerged is that Valdemir was a spy. The GoPro harness was used to secure a camera, and he was meant to film deep underwater. Not far from Valdemir's Arctic home are a series of deep sea cables, vital infrastructure that provides Internet and power for much of Europe. And if they are severed, it could upend daily life in Europe and crash global markets. But Sergei thinks this theory is far fetched. An underwater drone would be much more effective at severing those cables than an adorable whale. The second theory, and the one that seems the most plausible, is that the Belugas were placed in the port as guards. There's a fleet of nuclear powered submarines housed there. And like American trainer Blair Irvine's dolphins, the Belugas are effective at alerting their superiors to the presence of intruders. But whatever the real reason, Sergei thinks the re emergence of this program speaks to something deeper. A kind of Soviet era lost cause mythology that Russia can't quite shake.

Sergey Dobrynin (31:15)

I still do remember Soviet times and when it all collapsed in the beginning of 90s, all of a sudden they were published a lot of books about mystical Soviet genius. But of course most of these books were complete bullshit.

Zach Goldbaum (31:31)

After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia's mythic self image was shattered, replaced by leaders like Boris Yeltsin, who was often drunk and clownish.

Sergey Dobrynin (31:41)

People felt that Russia is also in the same way, like the bear that was mighty, but now that is used in circus.

Zach Goldbaum (31:51)

Putin with his shirtless tough guy swagger wanted to reclaim that image. So he flipped the script and quite literally took animals from the circus and turned them into soldiers. Then in February 2022, that Cold War nostalgia exploded into full scale war.

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War.

Zach Goldbaum (32:09)

And the fallout would reach far beyond the battlefield, into the seas themselves.

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Zach Goldbaum (33:22)

And we start this hour in Ukraine, where the interior Minister has quoted as saying 24 towns and villages have now been flooded after a major dam was destroyed in the south of the country. The Kremlin spokesperson has denied that Russia was responsible. Just before dawn on June 6, 2023, two explosions destroyed the Kakova Dam, a hydropower facility on the Dnipro river, which flows directly into the Black Sea. The dam is massive, roughly 3km long, and the sabotage opened up a gusher of water that ultimately flooded some 80 Ukrainian towns and settlements. Hundreds died, some swept away in their sleep, never to be seen again. The damage is estimated at $14 billion, and the habitat destruction is still being calculated.

Dr. Pavel Goldin (34:12)

We believe that some species, some local endemic species, could come to extinction because of this deluge.

Zach Goldbaum (34:22)

That's Dr. Pavel Goldin again. Trillions of gallons of polluted water went rushing from the river into the Black Sea, killing sturgeon and mussels, inundating the sea with heavy metals and pesticides, causing a huge toxic algae bloom. But that is just one event. Inside the Black Sea, a new theater of war has opened. Cruise missiles and underwater drones have disturbed fragile ecosystems. And Dr. Golding fears that noise pollution from sonar and munitions could be harming wildlife as well. All of that pollution and detritus points to a potential culprit in the mystery that has consumed Dr. Golden. What is killing the Black Sea? Dolphins and porpoises. But as evidence mounts, Dr. Golden is careful not to speculate until his report is complete.

Dr. Pavel Goldin (35:11)

I cannot explain in full details because the report is still under processing. But what can I say? During each dissection, we find found symptoms which have been new and unusual for us. Some of them, after all, appear to be more or less trivial. Others are still puzzling. We detected a lot of things we have never seen before.

Zach Goldbaum (35:40)

The human toll of the war in Ukraine is staggering. Since February 2022, a half a million people have been killed or wounded on both sides and millions more displaced. Others, like Russian journalist Sergei Dobrynin, are unable to return home.

Sergey Dobrynin (35:56)

There are a lot of places that I see in my dreams and that I really want to revisit again, but I try to push it out of my imagination and out of my thoughts, not to bother myself with this nostalgia.

Zach Goldbaum (36:09)

Against all that Suffering. It can feel a little silly to worry about the plight of a relatively small population of dolphins and porpoises. But today, with the help of Dr. Goldin's research, Ukrainian prosecutors are taking steps to bring a case against Russia to the International Criminal Court on charges of ecocide. That's the deliberate destruction of the natural environment. And if the ICC elects to take it on, this could be the first major case of its kind argued at the Hague. While the case may include the Black Sea marine mammals, it does not cover the dolphins and whales being used as tools in the conflict. But Dr. Goldin says it should.

Dr. Pavel Goldin (36:47)

Having dolphins in a military port during the war is a crime itself, and they cannot escape because they are in a cage. So it's like they putting them as hostages, you know, and torturing them in public.

Zach Goldbaum (37:06)

According to satellite data obtained by the UK Ministry of Defense, Russia has invested heavily in securing their Sevastopol naval port with the help of marine mammals. There are nets, booms and pens at the harbor entrance, all holding what Dr. Goldin describes as hostages or what the military may view as animal soldiers. In Russia, it's a program that is still shrouded in mystery. But in the US that is no longer the case.

Blair Irvine (37:37)

The Navy marine mammal program began in 1959 with a single dolphin. Over the decades, it's grown to become the world's third largest holder of marine mammals, about twice.

Zach Goldbaum (37:47)

That's a promotional video for the present day marine mammal program in the Navy. You can find it proudly displayed on their website.

Blair Irvine (37:55)

Partnering with the animals, the Navy created its marine mammal systems to do what others can't. Jobs too tough for men or machine alarms alone.

Zach Goldbaum (38:05)

In the video, seals dive into the water and dolphins, wearing harnesses, leave markers on the sea floor.

Blair Irvine (38:11)

In return for their service, the animals are given absolutely the best care available anywhere in the world.

Zach Goldbaum (38:17)

In some ways, the program is the same as it's always been, a defensive tool to monitor the seas and protect military assets. But in other ways, it's changed a lot. New technology, new trainers, and of course, new animals.

Blair Irvine (38:33)

Tuffy, when I started training for swimmer defense, he went to another trainer.

Zach Goldbaum (38:39)

Remember former US Navy trainer Blair Irvine, the guy who said he never fell in love with dolphins?

Blair Irvine (38:45)

Eventually, Tuffy had some kind of a disease where he lost weight, he couldn't eat. And Tuffy was out just right next to the deck, and two dolphins were supporting him because he could hardly breathe. And then all of a sudden, he took one final exhalation and he died. And the dolphins brought him over. Such is life funny even after all these years. Every time they tell this story, I act the same way. So you know the hard bitten caustic guy who doesn't care about dolphins actually sort of does.

Zach Goldbaum (39:30)

Dolphins may not be man's best friend, but as Blair Irvine learned, they're remarkable creatures. Smart, playful, fiercely loyal. Recruited as soldiers, they've protected us at our most vulnerable. But in war and in peace, we have not returned the favor. Follow Lawless Planet on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of Lawless Planet early and and ad free right now by joining Wondry plus in the Wonder App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey@wonder.com survey. On the next episode of Lawless Planet an explosion at a shipyard in Pakistan exposes an entire shadowy industry that wreaks havoc on the environment and has been killing and maiming workers for years. There's these giant ships that look like it's a complete shipwreck on the beach. It's like almost apocalyptic looking. If you want to hear more about the history of the US And Russian marine mammal programs, check out the BBC documentary Secrets of the Spy Whale. And be sure to check out Sergey Dobernin and Mark Krutov's reporting in Radio Free Europe. Lawless Planet is written, produced and hosted by me, Zach Goldbaum. Our senior producer and senior Story editor is Derek John. Senior producer for Wondry is Andy Herman. Our senior Managing producer is Nick Ryan. Our Managing producer is Sarah Kenny Corrigan. Our Associate producer is Lexi Peary. Sound design and music by Kenny Kusiak. Dialogue edit by George Drabing Hicks. Our music supervisor is Scott Velasquez for Frison Sync. Fact checking by Brian Punyant. Our legal counsel is Deb Droze. Executive producers are Marshall Louie and Jenny Lauer. Beckman for Wondry. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

Blair Irvine (41:57)

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