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Episode: Jane Austen en son temps : Gentry et petites fortunes, Jane Austen raconte le pouvoir de l’argent

Host: Xavier Mauduit (France Culture)
Guest: Marie-Laure Massey-Chamayou, maîtresse de conférences en études anglophones, Université Paris 1
Original Air Date: 25 November 2025

Overview

This episode uncovers the intricate relationship between money, social status, and gender in Jane Austen’s life and novels. Through a lively dialogue with expert Marie-Laure Massey-Chamayou, the discussion explores how money shapes the world of the English gentry at the turn of the 19th century and how these dynamics are woven into Austen's literary works, delving into legacy, the symbolism of the £10 banknote adorned with Austen’s portrait, and the ongoing societal impact of her social critiques.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pronunciation and Identity: Jane Austen, icon française ou anglaise ?

• The episode opens with a playful debate on whether to say "Jane Austen" à la française or “Austen” as in “ten”; equating her French adoption to that of British monarchs referred to by their French names. (00:09)

2. Jane Austen’s Financial Insecurity — Letters as Windows

• Letter excerpt to Cassandra Austen, 24 August 1805, reflects Austen’s acute awareness of her precarious financial situation:

  “Il vaut donc mieux te préparer à la vue d'une sœur tombée dans la pauvreté, afin que cela ne te démoralise pas.” (00:47, letter read aloud)

• Her lifelong worries about money are not avaricious but pragmatic and ever-present. (25:59)

3. The £10 Note: Money, Feminism, and Irony

[08:20–15:55]

Symbolic Layers of the Banknote

• The new £10 note features Jane Austen, replacing notable figures such as Florence Nightingale and Elizabeth Fry, following feminist protests over women's erasure from banknotes.
  • “Cet effacement d'une figure féminine faisait suite à un effacement précédent... Cela a beaucoup ému les féministes.” (04:55, Massey-Chamayou)
• The Modernity and Irony: Austen, who struggled with money, is now a global financial icon, ironically representing wealth on money itself:

  “La romancière, qui du fait de son impécuniosité...se retrouve désormais intrinsèquement associée à un billet de dix livres.” (08:49, Massey-Chamayou)

• The note’s visual choices—her portrait retouched, a submissive pose, contrasts with dynamic male imagery—perpetuate the very gender stereotypes Austen critiqued.

The Chosen Quote on the Banknote

• The note reads: “I declare, after all, there is no enjoyment like reading.” However, this is said by Miss Bingley in Pride and Prejudice—a character who does not truly value reading, signifying a public misunderstanding of Austen’s intent:

  “Ça n'est pas Elizabeth Bennet...mais Miss Bingley, sa rivale arrogante...qui...jette son livre.” (13:55, Massey-Chamayou)

4. Gentry and Money: Britain's Unique Social Hierarchy

[16:23–25:59]

• Social standing in Austen’s era is determined by lineage and land ownership rather than title alone, with the ‘gentry’ nestled between nobility and new industrial wealth.
  • “La gentry, c’est le groupe de référence...entre l'aristocratie et les middle ranks…ancrée dans un comté…la terre c’est le cercle magique.” (18:41, Massey-Chamayou)
• Being a gentleman’s daughter gives Austen social standing but not financial security due to her family’s debts.
  • “Décalage entre statut social, culture, éducation et revenus qui explique toute la préoccupation...Elle n’est pas vénale...mais c’est vraiment pour elle le problème majeur.” (25:59, Massey-Chamayou)

5. Marriage, Inheritance & the Place of Women

[25:29–39:06]

• For women of the gentry, marriage is the only possible “career”, since laws and customs (entail, primogeniture) largely exclude them from inheritance.
  • “Pour les femmes...elles sont piégées...procédures patriarcales...pour faire carrière, c’est de se marier.” (24:45, Massey-Chamayou)
• Multiple dramatic readings from Persuasion and Sense and Sensibility illustrate the destabilizing effects of inheritance laws.
• Austen’s novels open by anchoring characters' fortunes and social expectations in specific monetary terms.
  • “L’argent est omniprésent dans les romans de Jane Austen...cela permettait aux lecteurs de comprendre à qui ils avaient affaire.” (16:46, Massey-Chamayou)

6. Changing Economics: Rise of Industry, New Money, and Social Tensions

[33:19–37:30]

• Discussion on the permeability between land-based wealth and new industrial or commercial money; “old money” seeks to integrate “new money” via land purchase.
  • “Les propriétaires terriens étaient parfois les premiers entrepreneurs...tout n’est pas aussi étanche que ça peut l’être en France.” (34:00, Massey-Chamayou)
• Satirical treatment of marriage market and “rentes” in Pride and Prejudice and other novels.

7. Women’s Precarity & Literary Destiny

[39:12–53:19]

• Social and legal apparatuses (entail, primogeniture) keep most women dispossessed; when the “insurance” of men fails, women’s fate is dire—unless class solidarity saves them, as Jane Austen’s brothers did.

  • “Si les fils Austin n’avaient pas fait preuve de solidarité...leur avenir aurait été complètement compromis.” (53:19, Massey-Chamayou)

• Literary production is shown as one of the few escapes, but with its own limitations—Austen’s endings are often fairytale-like because no realistic solutions exist for such women.

  • “Si elle recourt à la grammaire du conte de fées…c’est peut-être un signe absolument tragique.” (53:19, Massey-Chamayou)

• Parallels drawn between Austen’s struggles and later feminist writers (Virginia Woolf’s A Room of One’s Own, Annie Ernaux’s La Place) stress the critical theme of “having a room of one’s own”—a home, property, and economic security as prerequisites for creativity.

8. Legacies and Social Critique

[45:54–52:41]

• Austen’s work subtly but fiercely denounces the arbitrary, patriarchal nature of inheritance and the lack of female solidarity in some families:

  “Il n'y a jamais de critique manichéenne chez Jane Austen...elle nuance sa pensée...” (49:25, Massey-Chamayou)

• Some exceptions—10% of land managed by women—yet the overwhelming norm remains “la confiscation par l’homme”.

Notable Quotes and Moments

• On the irony of Austen on the banknote:

  “Elle se retrouve désormais intrinsèquement associée à un billet de dix livres...Alors que son œuvre ne cesse de générer des profits absolument colossaux...”
  [08:49, Massey-Chamayou]

• On the misunderstood quote on the £10 note:

  “Ce n’est pas Elizabeth Bennet...mais Miss Bingley...qui immédiatement après avoir fait l’éloge de la lecture… jette son livre.”
  [13:55, Massey-Chamayou]

• On women’s inheritance:

  “Ces injustices institutionnalisées sont encore aggravées par les comportements individuels.”
  [40:46, Massey-Chamayou]

• On Austen’s own experience:

  “Elle n’a jamais eu de maison à elle. Et cette question du rapport des femmes...à leur maison...elle est fondamentale.”
  [41:25, Massey-Chamayou]

• On the reality behind fairytale endings:

  “Il n’y a pas de solution réaliste...l’ironie mine complètement le propos.”
  [53:19, Massey-Chamayou]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:09: Introduction, pronunciation, Austen’s double identity
• 00:47: Austen’s letter on poverty; the personal as historical
• 02:19: The £10 banknote: its value, symbolism, and controversy
• 08:49: Visual critique of the banknote; retouched portrait and gendered symbolism
• 13:55: Analysis of the misattributed banknote quotation
• 18:41: Definition and history of the gentry
• 25:29: Gentry women’s social traps and lack of career prospects
• 34:00: Industrial wealth vs. landed gentry
• 39:12: Inheritance law, family solidarity, and women’s fate
• 41:25: Parallels to Woolf’s “A Room of One’s Own”
• 45:54: Customary vs. written law, nuances in Austen’s critique
• 49:25: Family relations, female inheritance, and exceptions
• 53:19: Austen’s writing as lifeline; the limits of the fairytale resolution

Conclusion

Through insightful historical, economic, and literary analysis, the episode demonstrates that for Jane Austen—and her female contemporaries—money was not ‘just’ a romantic plot device, but rather a central, looming force: determining marriage, survival, artistic production, and social worth. Austen’s sharp irony and realism continue to inspire debate about gender, wealth, and class.

Suggested Reading & Final Recommendations

• Persuasion is highlighted as the guest’s preferred Austen novel for its advanced social commentary and emotional depth.
• Listeners are encouraged to delve into Austen’s six major novels—and posthumous works—for a deeper understanding of the relationship between money, gender, and narrative irony in her world.