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Episode: The Lingering Damage: Long Covid, Unanswered Lab Questions, and Accountability Delayed

Host: Tenderfoot Labs
Date: January 13, 2026
Guests: Charles Rixey (DRASTIC), Andrew Huff (EcoHealth Alliance, “The Truth About Wuhan”)

Episode Overview

This episode investigates the persistent mysteries and unanswered questions around the COVID-19 pandemic, with a sharp focus on Long Covid, vaccine injuries, cancer risks, and the tangled politics of viral origins. Drawing on exclusive access to Jenner Furst’s documentary Thank You, Dr. Fauci, investigator Payne Lindsey moderates a deep-dive with two experts on the inside: Charles Rixey, part of the global DRASTIC research collective, and Andrew Huff, former EcoHealth Alliance scientist and whistleblower. Together, they discuss emerging scientific evidence, the failures of global accountability, and the ongoing search for truth—and justice—amid accusations of cover-ups and delayed investigations. The discussion carries a tone of skepticism, urgency, and a call for deeper scientific transparency.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Reality and Complexity of Long Covid

• Personal Experiences and Diagnostics (01:45–04:36)

  • Charles Rixey describes his journey as both a patient and a scientist in Japan, validating Long Covid symptoms and vaccine injury via advanced blood testing for microclots.
  • “Here we have the same capability. It’s called fluorescent microscopy... we were able to test my blood, show that it was full of microclots.” (Charles Rixey, 01:57)
  • Both Dr. Jordan Vaughn (US) and Dr. Robert Redfield are pursuing similar diagnostic and treatment approaches, hinting at a growing consensus on the role of microclotting and immune dysfunction.

• Experimental Treatments in Japan (04:36–05:37)

  • Rixey’s lab has commenced an expensive, experimental stem cell growth factor treatment targeting Long Covid. Early cases have "immediate, within hours effects" on severe symptoms, underlining both the potential and uncertainty of this nascent science.

2. Vaccine Injuries, Turbo Cancers and Spike Protein Debate

• Evidence, Data Quality, and Controversy (05:57–09:57)

  • Huff argues for better “gold standard” data; current findings on vaccine-linked rapid-onset (“turbo”) cancers may be masked or biased.
  • “If you start with biased data, it doesn’t matter what your modeling technique is... you’re going to have a biased result.” (Andrew Huff, 06:16)
  • Both note a spike in early and rapid onset cancers post-2021, which could be linked to repeated exposure—either from infection or vaccination.
  • Rixey details findings of highly contaminated vaccine vials (notably from Japan) and the multi-faceted, poorly understood pathways (spike protein, microclotting, immune suppression) possibly contributing to both Long Covid and cancer upsurge.

• Causal Pathways and Scientific Hurdles (09:57–12:08)

  • Huff: Large epidemiological studies required to establish direct links between exposures (virus, vaccine) and cancer. Multifactorial risks—including dose, combined exposures, and immune suppression—need parsing out.

• Is the Spike Protein Carcinogenic? (12:08–17:40)

  • Revisiting the “Moderna patent” controversy and spike protein role:
    • Huff: “If I were a betting man... I think the spike protein is probably negligible in causing turbo cancer. That’s just a gut feeling. I have no data to support that.” (Andrew Huff, 14:32)
    • Rixey: Agrees, adding immune suppression is worse with the vaccine than virus; spike’s main damage is degrading immune surveillance, thus elevating cancer risk indirectly.

3. Government, Intelligence Agencies and the Lab Leak

• Ralph Baric, Intelligence Ties, and Timeline Revelations (18:15–24:13)
  • Recent evidence (from Senator Rand Paul, et al.) reveals Dr. Ralph Baric’s covert collaborations with the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) as early as 2015, and possibly as far back as 2004 around SARS.
  • “Who is the absolute expert in the field of coronaviruses... outside of China? Well, that was Ralph Baric.” (Charles Rixey, 21:14)
  • Rixey notes years of ODNI obstruction and cover-up (especially declassification under Avril Haynes), directly tying official denial to withheld evidence—many of which he claims to have had in-hand prior to public release.

4. Blueprint for a Real Investigation

• Huff’s Three-Track Proposal (25:31–32:54)

  • Legal and procedural transparency: Immediate record release and declassification, using AI for triage and privacy measures.
  • Personnel accountability: Forensic chain-of-command review to determine who knew what, when—and who potentially covered it up.
  • Scientific investigation: A large-scale, forensically rigorous epidemiological study to pinpoint viral emergence, including testing historic samples and even exhuming bodies, remarkably never done for SARS-CoV-2 (unlike all previous major pandemics).
  • “Why hasn’t this study already been conducted? Because I’m not the only one who knows this technique or the method. Is this investigation being suppressed?” (Andrew Huff, 32:25)

• Rixey: Fauci’s Breached Duty and Cover-Up (32:54–38:05)

  • Details Fauci’s early knowledge of critical viral features and concealment from both the public and his peers, violating duty-to-warn protocols.
  • “On January 13th, Fauci knew unequivocally... And Fauci swore an oath... He had a duty to tell the world... and he suppressed that.” (Charles Rixey, 35:05)

• Slack Messages, Conflict of Interest, and CIA Influence (38:05–39:07)

  • Huff references internal communications indicating major pandemic scientists were potentially aware of the man-made origins and conscious of intelligence community involvement, echoing the documentary’s primary allegations.

5. Alternate Origin Theories: Could Covid Have Started in the US?

• Early US Lab Leak Possibilities and the Cover-Up (39:07–46:09)

  • Discussion of credible-but-unproven claims that COVID-19 cases appeared in North Carolina and Virginia months before Wuhan; multiple US labs (UNC, Rocky Mountain Labs) had a history of biosecurity breaches.
  • Nursing home outbreaks in Virginia (post-Fort Detrick shutdown) remain suspicious and suspiciously opaque.
  • “There’s been a massive lack of transparency and that tells me there’s more to that story than a simple outbreak.” (Charles Rixey, 45:30)

• Obstacles to Proper Forensic Epidemiology (46:09–49:29)

  • Legal, bureaucratic, and biosecurity barriers stymie unfettered sample collection—and thus, real answers—without state or federal authority.

6. Accountability: Prosecuting Fauci and Institutional Failures

• Legal Pathways, Pardons, and Jurisdictional Hurdles (51:00–55:29)
  • Analysis of federal pardons (possibly questionably issued by autopen), Trump executive orders, and the unlikely prospects of military or state (Texas grand jury) prosecution.
  • “You can see that the prosecution side of this becomes a hot mess very quickly.” (Andrew Huff, 51:31)
  • Urges full declassification and analysis to uncover the full institutional chain of responsibility, stressing that blame may lie beyond Fauci alone.

7. Reflections on the Need for Sequel and Ongoing Investigation

• Case for Continued Investigation and Public Pressure (55:29–59:47)
  • Both guests agree the scandal’s magnitude demands further exposure ("biggest scandal in the history of scandals"), liken the documentary's impact to a potential landmark in public accountability.
  • “Long Covid is the ongoing and massively underreported and massively misunderstood fallout from this biological explosion. And we need... to solve that problem because it's going to impact us for generations.” (Charles Rixey, 55:53)
  • Huff notes a sequel’s potential to “nudge history in the right direction” by creating a transparent, inspectable record—a “permanent, accountable framework for biosecurity governance.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Data and Causation:

  • “If you start with biased data, it doesn’t matter what your modeling technique is... your result’s going to be biased.”
    — Andrew Huff (06:16)

• On Possible Mechanisms:

  • “All we know is that we see the problem, and we’re in the process of nailing out the pathways by which that problem is occurring.”
    — Charles Rixey (09:46)

• On Official Obstruction:

  • “The ODNI under Avril Haynes spent four years blocking all origin intelligence... We know for a fact that the ODNI has not always been trustworthy on this issue.”
    — Charles Rixey (22:54)

• On the Scale of Scandal:

  • “If this is a cover-up of biological weapons research or just even an accident of some kind, then this is the biggest scandal in the history of modern humanity.”
    — Charles Rixey (55:42)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Long Covid diagnosis, microclots: 01:45–04:36
• Vaccine injuries, turbo cancer controversy: 05:57–12:08
• Spike protein, Moderna patent, and cancer risk: 12:08–17:40
• Ralph Baric’s CIA ties and government cover-up: 18:15–24:13
• Blueprint for credible investigation: 25:31–32:54
• Fauci’s duty, emails, and origin cover-up: 32:54–39:07
• US lab leak theories, lack of epidemiology: 39:07–49:29
• Legal challenges to holding Fauci to account: 51:00–55:29
• Call for a sequel and future transparency: 55:29–59:47

Tone and Language Notes

The conversation is personal, analytical, sometimes conspiratorial but consistently insistent on transparency and accountability. It’s heavy with expert language—sequencing, epidemiology, immune pathways—but also emotionally charged, especially when discussing lived experience of illness, governmental denial, and the far-reaching impact of bureaucratic stonewalling.

Conclusion

This episode offers a sweeping, urgent review of what we do and don’t know about Covid's aftermath, origin, and those responsible for transparency. It features intimate perspectives from two whistleblowers, backs up documentary findings and new evidence, and repeatedly underscores the societal need for rigorous, independent science and relentless accountability for those in power. The call to action: more investigation, more disclosure, and sustained public pressure until the full, complicated truth emerges.