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See full terms@mintmobile.com got some extraordinary Chief Justice Roberts is in Dialogue with Donald Trump well, it's one sided. Chief Justice Roberts just issued a statement telling Donald Trump to knock it off and stop calling for impeachment of federal judges when he doesn't like or appreciate their rulings against him. Telling him in no uncertain terms in a statement not tied to a case. Just a direct statement from Chief Justice Roberts to Donald Trump and to the public telling him if you don't like a ruling by a federal judge, you, your process is appeal, not impeachment. Appeal, not impeachment. Donald Trump attacked the judge. This is the judge that issued the injunction to stop him from using the Alien Enemies act to continue to deport under a phony war power, a phony exercise of war power, claiming that the enemy combatants need to be expelled immediately from America. And in response to that, he went after the judge after the judge issued his broadcast temporary restraining order that's being litigated as we speak right now in front of this particular judge. I'm Michael Popo. You're on the Midas Touch Network in Legal af. Let's get into this extraordinary, extraordinary moment where the, where the, the, the Chief justice in his role as the chief administrator for all things federal court felt it was incumbent upon him to speak his mind even when there was no case in front of him. I can't think in the last 30 years or 40 years where a chief judge has done that. Look, this chief judge is not covering himself in any glory about he emboldened Donald Trump to become president.
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He gave him immunity for most of.
Michael Popok
His or all of his criminal, his criminal conduct or behavior. And now he's trying to put the genie back in the bottle. I mean, this is the same Chief justice that refused to preside over one of the impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump after Jan.6 because Donald Trump was no longer president. So he wasn't going to preside over the impeachment proceeding. So he's bent over backwards to Help Donald Trump when he can. So for this person to now come forward and just say what he said is extraordinary. This is what the. Let me read to you first what Donald Trump said. Donald Trump says, because they're all claiming that Judge Boasberg, the chief judge of the. Of the district court in D.C. has no jurisdiction, no power over Donald Trump because he's exercising his commander in chief powers, which he's not. This is what the Trump. Trump called Boasberg crooked, called them an agitator. He said, this judge, like many of the crooked judges I'm forced to appear before, should be impeached. All in capsule. This was on Truth Social on Tuesday morning. We don't want vicious, violent, and demented criminals, many of them deranged murderers in our country. Um, of course, Boseberg did not decline to respond to that, but he continued. This is what the judge said. This is what Trump said. The radical left lunatic of a judge. Here we go again. A troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected president. He didn't win the popular vote by a lot. He didn't win all seven swing states. He didn't win 2752 to 525 counties. He didn't win anything. I won for many reasons in an overwhelming mandate, but fighting illegal immigration may have been the number one reason for this historic victory. I'm just doing what the voters want me to do. And in response, John Roberts, again, this is not normal. Everybody but this. But let me just read you what he wrote. Robert said that, quote, for more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose. I can't express to you enough as a practicing lawyer, how unusual, I guess, is the right word this is to have a Supreme Court justice in open dialogue with the President of the United States telling that guy, the president, back off and don't go after my federal judges that I'm responsible for as the head of Article 3.
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You may be head of Article 2.
Michael Popok
But I'm head of Article 3. In other words, I don't want to hear about your popular vote. I don't want to hear about your mandate. And if you got a problem with one of my federal judges, the call is not for impeachment or his head or as a. As a. Another judge, Beryl Howell, once said, you know, like, you're the queen of hearts and you're displeased with somebody in front of you. So it's off with his head. That's not what you do in this country. And the fact that Roberts felt that he had to reach out and do that at this moment in time shows you the extraordinary pressure the Supreme Court is under. I have a secret weapon. I got a joke in my back pocket that I can pull out at a dinner party and it's never failed.
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O n.com promo code legal a f I've said before, the Supreme Court is fighting not only for its own soul, but for the soul of America at this very moment. And Roberts is declaring where he sides. I don't know about pinning back all of Donald Trump's presidential powers when those cases inevitably come up, like the substance and merits of this case come up. You know what they're going to try to do now? They're going to try to argue that Chief Justice Roberts should be disqualified from presiding over Donald Trump's cases, or this case in particular at the appellate level because they, you know, he's already show a predisposition against Donald Trump. But that would mean that there's, that would mean I don't know what's going to happen. I think we then potentially have a 4, 4 tie.
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And the Supreme Court would be incapable.
Michael Popok
Of issuing any rulings. If, if, if Roberts actually recused himself, which he won't, it wouldn't get Donald Trump what he wants anyway because the Supreme Court wouldn't have the five votes to approve what he's doing. So careful what you wish for. I don't think even in their wildest imagination, the Trump administration and its half baked legal gurus thought that they were going to catch the ire of Chief Justice Roberts before an actual case where he could write something like that. The fact that he made a statement as the administrator of the federal courts is beyond extraordinary. And what it signals to Donald Trump about what he's doing. The fact that Roberts woke up in the morning and said, I gotta step in and make a statement to show the battle, the friction, if you will, between Article 3 judges and Article 2 president. I mean, well, this is the checks and balance we've been waiting for. I just thought it was going to have to come in the form of a case or a decision, but not. Roberts woke up, brushed the teeth, brushed his teeth this morning and said, I got to protect Jeb Boseberg after. See, and it just happened. I mean, this is, this is sequential. One after another crazy attacks on the presidency. Now we, by the president on a federal judge. We've seen this before with Donald Trump. We've seen it in criminal defendant Trump, we've seen it in, in criminal convicted defendant Trump going after Judge Mershon, the state court judge, the Supreme Court judge in New York and his wife and his daughter. You know, and of course, he got convicted on 34 felony counts there, going against Judge Angoron, the Supreme Court justice in New York, who presided over his judge, his $450 million civil fraud case against his wife and his law clerk. All women going again, you know, going up against Chutkin, the federal judge in D.C. who presided over his criminal case there. It's always the same. They're depraved, they're lunatics, they're out of control, they're animals, they're liberals. They're just doing their job, just like you're allegedly doing your job. You know, this is what they get paid to do. This is why they got lifetime appointments. And who cares who at this moment in time, who cares who appointed them? You know, Chief Justice Roberts, who was appointed by a Republican, is up against you now and calling you out. So what's going to happen Next? Well, there's a number of parallel things all going on at the same time as Chief Justice Roberts just stuck his finger in it. You got Boseberg, who's still presiding. Donald Trump tried to get rid of him at the DC Appellate Court and they did not respond. He said, oh, he's making some crazy decisions on temporary restraining orders restraining the power of the presidency.
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He needs to be removed as the judge. That didn't work.
Michael Popok
He then tried to convince Judge Boasberg that he didn't have jurisdiction over anything over the president. That didn't work. Then they went into a hearing on fact finding to determine whether the Trump administration committed contempt. And there's going to be a filing today about that that will report on at the same time, the actual underlying injunction is being litigated at the same time with the Trump administration filing their paper to dissolve that order that in which Judge Boasberg certified a class of all those who who were subject to the Alien Enemies act and prevented them from being continued to be deported as he determines whether they were already deported in violation of his order. So all that's going on throughout this week, which will end up at the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit and then up at the United States Supreme Court. And then we have Roberts signaling to everybody, you want to talk appeal, talk appeal. But don't talk to me about impeachment or calling for one of my federal judges heads on a pike. Well, continue to follow it all right here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF until my next reporting. I'm Michael Popeck in collaboration with the Midas Touch Network. We just launched the Legal AF YouTube channel. Help us build this pro democracy channel where I'll be curating the top stories, the intersection of law and politics. Go to YouTube now and free subscribe @legalafmtn. That's egalafmtn.
Legal AF by MeidasTouch Network: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Chief Justice Issues Shock Statement on Trump
Release Date: March 18, 2025
In this episode of Legal AF, hosted by the MeidasTouch Network, civil rights lawyer Ben Meiselas, national trial lawyer strategist Michael Popok, and former Chief Assistant District Attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo delve into a monumental development at the intersection of law and politics. The focus of this episode is the unprecedented public statement issued by Chief Justice John Roberts addressing former President Donald Trump's actions concerning federal judges.
The episode opens with Michael Popok setting the stage for a critical analysis of recent interactions between Chief Justice Roberts and former President Trump. The discussion centers around Trump's attempts to challenge and undermine federal judges who have ruled against him in various legal matters, including the use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport individuals under questionable war powers.
Popok explains that Trump has been vocal in his disdain for judges like Judge Boasberg, who issued injunctions against his policies. Trump's rhetoric on platforms like Truth Social has included calling Judge Boasberg a "crooked judge" and advocating for the impeachment of judges he disagrees with.
A pivotal moment discussed in the episode is Chief Justice Roberts' direct intervention in this escalating conflict. At [02:07], Popok highlights that Roberts issued a statement unequivocally advising Trump to cease his calls for judicial impeachments. Roberts emphasized that "impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision" and urged Trump to utilize the established appellate review process instead.
Popok remarks on the rarity of such a statement from a Supreme Court justice, noting, "I can't think in the last 30 years or 40 years where a chief judge has done that." This underscores the gravity of the situation and the heightened tensions between the judiciary and the executive branch.
The episode delves into Trump's reactions following Roberts' statement. Trump labeled Chief Judge Boasberg as a "radical left lunatic" and continued his aggressive stance against the judiciary. He persisted in his efforts to delegitimize judges by questioning their jurisdiction and authority, despite clear judicial rulings against his actions.
Popok underscores the significance of Roberts stepping into this arena, stating at [04:52], "This is what they get paid to do. This is why they got lifetime appointments." He emphasizes the importance of judicial independence and the dangers posed when a sitting president attempts to undermine it.
A critical analysis is provided on the potential ramifications of Chief Justice Roberts' statement. Popok speculates on the possibility of Trump attempting to challenge Roberts' impartiality in future cases, which could lead to a deadlock within the Supreme Court. At [07:51], Popok warns, "If Roberts actually recused himself, which he won't, it wouldn't get Donald Trump what he wants anyway because the Supreme Court wouldn't have the five votes to approve what he's doing."
This scenario raises concerns about the ability of the Supreme Court to function effectively if accusations of bias become prevalent, potentially leading to a constitutional crisis.
The episode provides an update on the ongoing legal battles, highlighting Judge Boasberg's injunction against Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act. Popok details the legal maneuvers by the Trump administration, including attempts to dismiss Judge Boasberg and challenge his rulings. Despite these pressures, Judge Boasberg remains steadfast, continuing to enforce the injunctions that prevent unlawful deportations.
At [10:49], Popok outlines the timeline of events: "There’s a hearing on fact finding to determine whether the Trump administration committed contempt... the injunction is being litigated... it will end up at the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit and then up at the United States Supreme Court."
This ongoing litigation exemplifies the intense legal tug-of-war between Trump's administration and the federal judiciary, underscoring the high stakes involved.
Michael Popok concludes the episode by emphasizing the unprecedented nature of Chief Justice Roberts' intervention. He reflects on the broader implications for American democracy and the rule of law, stating, "The Supreme Court is fighting not only for its own soul, but for the soul of America at this very moment."
Popok calls on listeners to stay informed and engaged, urging them to follow the developments on the MeidasTouch Network and the Legal AF YouTube channel.
Michael Popok [02:07]:
"Chief Justice Roberts just issued a statement telling Donald Trump to knock it off and stop calling for impeachment of federal judges when he doesn't like or appreciate their rulings against him."
Donald Trump [03:00]:
"They’re all claiming that Judge Boasberg... has no jurisdiction, no power over Donald Trump because he's exercising his commander in chief powers, which he's not."
Chief Justice John Roberts [04:00]:
"For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."
Michael Popok [07:04]:
"I don't think even in their wildest imagination, the Trump administration and its half baked legal gurus thought that they were going to catch the ire of Chief Justice Roberts before an actual case where he could write something like that."
This episode of Legal AF offers a comprehensive and incisive examination of a critical moment in American jurisprudence and politics. By dissecting Chief Justice Roberts' groundbreaking statement and its repercussions, host Michael Popok provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the delicate balance between the branches of government and the enduring importance of judicial independence.
For those interested in the ongoing saga between the judiciary and the executive branch, and its implications for democracy, this episode is a must-listen.
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