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Michael Popak
A gang of 20 is back. 20 states have joined together, led by Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, to sue Trump and the Department of Education to stop its dismantling the chloroforming of the Department of Education and to stop cutting off of all of the funding related to education to the states. This suit has been filed in Massachusetts. I'm going to cover it right here, what it means and the restraining order that it's looking for on the Midas touch network. The 20 states joined together. It's the same group that's been suing over and over again very successfully against the Trump administration. Arizona, California, Hawaii, New Jersey and others all joining together. And they pick their spots here, the District of Massachusetts, which will lead to a very favorable appellate court for them as well. Let's look at the Department of education that Linda McMahon, who's the new formerly from the World Wrestling Federation and now the head of, of the Department of Education. She said her job is to be put out of a job to close down the Department of education, formed in 1979 by Congress. And that's the problem. And that's what the lawsuit says. The lawsuit says Donald Trump can't, through a reduction in force, what we call in the law, a rif, can't undermine congressional authority in the establishment of a department or of a agency. You can't riff your way out of an agency just by cutting it in half. Closing offices all around the United States, including The the very important office of Civil Rights investigations for the Department of Justice, which stops discrimination and harassment in education. It has two major components, the Department of Education, one dedicated, dedicated to K through 12 and then 1 dedicated to higher education. Just to give you the raw numbers before I get to the lawsuit now been filed, you've got 98,000 schools and 32,000 private schools in America that get funding and regulation through the Department of education. You've got 18,000 school districts. You have 50 million 50 million children between the ages of 5 and 18 that are in secondary schools, 12 million additionally in college of some sort, all under the regulations the Department of Justice and more importantly, the billions of dollars of aid that go to each state. New York alone gets $6 billion in aid for K through 12 from the federal government. Linda McMahon likes to say in her interviews and Donald Trump too, we want to make the students and the states responsive to the families. Where's the funding coming from? Comes from the federal tax dollar and its commitment to public education. And the problem is Congress has already established the Department of Education. And the fundamentals of the lawsuit I'll read to you from certain aspects of it are what we've heard before, that Donald Trump has violated the separation of powers by usurping the legislative authority of Congress. That he's violated the separation of powers by violating the take care provision of the Constitution Article 2, which requires him as the president to faithfully execute the laws and agencies and departments as established by Congress. That his actions are ultra various, meaning they're outside the lane of his executive power. And lastly, he's violated the Administrative Procedures act because he and his group, his gang, have done things in an arbitrary and capricious fashion and have harmed and injured the states as a result. Letitia James is recently on the Midas Touch Network being interviewed by my colleague and partner Ben Meisellis. We applaud everything that she does in the leadership here. Throughout shot throughout the lawsuit filing are public comments, including interviews on Fox News of people like Donald Trump and Linda McMahon, the education secretary, where she said I'm going to put myself out of business. In fact, during an Interview Just on March 11, Linda McMahon with Laura Ingraham, who's now been bribed with a position by the Trump administration on the Kennedy Center Performing Arts center board. She did an interview puff piece and she asked point blank is this the first step in cutting the workforce in half, in shuttering civil rights offices in all the major cities? Is that the first step on the road to a total shutdown here's her response. Linda I hope you do a great.
Linda McMahon
Job and put yourself out of a job. I want her to put herself out of a job. Education Department all right. In a move that seems to portend the beginning of the end for the department that Republicans going back to Reagan pledged to abolish, the Department of Education today told staffers to vacate their offices by 6pm because the offices were closing nationwide. The doors are now locked. Workers aren't going to be allowed back into the buildings until at least Thursday.
Yes, actually it is, because that was the president's mandate. His directive to me clearly is to shut down the Department of Education, which we know we'll have to work with Congress, you know, to get that accomplished. But what we did today was to take the first step of eliminating what I think is bureaucratic bloat. And that's not to say that a lot of the folks, you know, it's a humanitarian thing too. A lot of the folks that are there, you know, they're out of a job. But we wanted to make sure that we kept all of the right people and the good people to make sure that the outward facing programs, the grants, the appropriations that come from Congress, all of that are being met and none of that's going to fall through the cracks.
Michael Popak
The answer is yes, obviously, and that is front and center on page 33 of this particular filing. They first go through all of the other comments starting on page one. Let me read to you from aspects of the complaint that's been filed in the request for temporary restraining order. I kept putting off addressing that little leak in the kitchen pantry ceiling until it nearly fell on my head when I was looking for a midnight snack. Clogged gutters are easy to forget, annoying to clean, and can grow into a big problem. There's an easier way to ensure your gutters stay clean and avoid costly damage. Upgrade to a permanent solution. You can on with leaf filter so you never have to clean out your gutters again. Right now you can get a free inspection, free estimate and save up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com legal AF look, living where I live surrounded by trees and leaves, I think about my gutters now and again. 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This massive reduction in force, the RIF I talked about earlier, is equivalent to incapacitating key statutorily mandated by Congress functions of the department, causing immense damage to the education system and to the members and to the plaintiff states. Although the department's March 11 press release says the Department, quote, will continue to deliver all statutory programs that fall under the agency's purview. That assertion is belied by the extent and effect of the RIF. So too is the assertion from Secretary McMahon that the terminations were the first step towards the total shutdown of the Department. You just saw that quote up on Fox News. Far from being the first step, it is effectively the dismantling of the department. Paragraph three alleges the RIF is so severe, Paragraph four alleges that it incapacitates components of the Department responsible for performing functions mandated by Congress by statute, effectively nullifying the mandates. For example, paragraph four, page three of the complaint seven regional offices of the Department's Office for Civil Rights, including those in New York, Boston, France, San Francisco, Philadelphia and Chicago, have been closed entirely. It's not supported by any actual reasoning or specific determination, and the states have been harmed as a result. We know that Donald Trump wants to Chloroform the Department of Education because it's in the Project 2025 handbook which he's implementing. We know that that's exactly what they're doing. They're taking the department out in the back and shooting it because that's what Linda McMahon said she was, she was empowered to do, to put herself out of business without, without regard to consequences to the American public school student. Not everybody can afford to send her kid to private school on the and we have to make sure that funding that comes from taxpayer dollars gets properly allocated to the states to pay for things like K and pre K and other programs. Letitia James is a hero here. We're going to be talking about her a lot on Legal AF and the Midas Touch Network over and over and over again. Why? Because there's about 18 to 20 states that are going to join together over and over and over again. I call them the Gang of 20, where their attorney general is a Democrat, where one or both of their aspects of government, the legislator and the executive branch, their governor is a Democrat. And when they line up, they're powerful and successful. Letitia James alone has four separate temporary restraining orders that she's obtained already against this administration. And this, I predict, will be the fifth. Donald Trump will continue like a spoiled, petulant child to continue to test constitutional boundaries until he is stopped in his tracks by attorney generals, by public interest groups, by non governmental organizations, by people banding together and taking their grievances to federal courts and the right federal courts. Once again, we're in Massachusetts. You'll see lots of filings. Just to give you a viewer's guide here in the cases that have been filed, we're up to about 100. The states you're going to see over and over again, about half are going to be the District of Columbia. If that's where the plaintiffs think that's their best shot, they'll go. District of Columbia, about half are there. That's where the agencies are based. It's usually easier to sue there. But they can sue where they're harmed or where they're injured. So you're going to, we've talked a lot about. And here we have another example of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, sometimes New Jersey, Maryland. See, are you getting the drift here? The original 13 colonies, okay, blue, California, Washington, places like that. That's where we're going to sue. MAGA sues in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, places like that. We sue in these other places and we've got the guns and we've got the attorneys general to pull it off. And the success rate now is even higher than the success rate of the lawsuits in the first Trump administration. There the attorney general's batted about 800 pretty, pretty amazing, pretty hall of fame numbers. Now it's well over 900%, 90% success rate. So we'll continue to follow it. Let me just tell you that the way this is going to work is once the judge is assigned, we have our judge, then he's going to hold or she's going to hold a hearing on the temporary restraining order that's been asked for. That briefing is going to go relatively quickly. They're going to decide whether the dismantling needs to stop. Right now, he's the judge is not going to be able to order the rehiring of people already fired at this stage. But, but to stop it right now, they'll have a debate over whether temporary restraining order is necessary and whether there's been irreparable harm, which I believe there has been. And then we'll get to the merits of the case. These are important cases to bring against this administration, which is rogue, out of control, ultra varies and drunk with power. And I'll continue to follow it all right here. So until my next reporting, I'm Michael Popak. In collaboration with the Midas Touch Network, we just launched the Legal AF YouTube channel. Help us build this pro democracy channel where I'll be curating the top stories, the intersection of law and politics. Go to YouTube now and free subscribe egalafmtn. That's egalafmtn.
Legal AF by MeidasTouch: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Dem AGs Team Up to Give Trump Legal Hell He Deserves
Release Date: March 15, 2025
Hosts: Ben Meiselas, Michael Popok, Karen Friedman Agnifilo
Executive Producer: Meidas Media Network
In this compelling episode of Legal AF, host Michael Popok delves into the recent legal maneuvers undertaken by a coalition of 20 states aiming to challenge former President Donald Trump's administration. The focus is on the concerted effort led by New York Attorney General Letitia James to halt Trump's efforts to dismantle the Department of Education (DoEd) and cut its funding. This episode provides an in-depth analysis of the legal strategies, the implications for federal education programs, and the broader battle between state and federal authorities.
Michael Popok begins by outlining the formation of the "Gang of 20," a coalition comprising 20 states united under the leadership of Attorney General Letitia James. These states, including Arizona, California, Hawaii, and New Jersey, have a history of successfully opposing Trump’s administration through various lawsuits. The coalition has recently filed a lawsuit in the District of Massachusetts, chosen for its favorable appellate court, aiming to secure a temporary restraining order against the Department of Education's reduction.
Notable Quote:
"Letitia James is recently on the Midas Touch Network being interviewed by my colleague and partner Ben Meisellis. We applaud everything that she does in the leadership here."
– Michael Popok (04:15)
The episode scrutinizes the actions of Linda McMahon, the head of the Department of Education, who has publicly stated her intent to effectively dismantle the department. Established in 1979 by Congress, the DoEd plays a critical role in funding and regulating over 98,000 public schools and 32,000 private institutions across the United States. McMahon's directive to vacate offices nationwide signals a significant reduction in force (RIF) by 50%, disrupting essential programs and services.
Notable Quotes:
Linda McMahon:
"I want her to put herself out of a job. Education Department all right."
(05:59)
Linda McMahon:
"His directive to me clearly is to shut down the Department of Education... we wanted to make sure that we kept all of the right people and the good people to make sure that the outward facing programs, the grants, the appropriations that come from Congress, all of that are being met and none of that's going to fall through the cracks."
(06:27)
Popok details the legal foundation of the lawsuit, which accuses Trump of overstepping his constitutional authority by attempting to reduce the Department of Education through executive action. The complaint argues that such actions violate:
Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump cannot, through a reduction in force, what we call in the law, a RIF, undermine congressional authority in the establishment of a department or of an agency."
– Michael Popok (02:45)
The episode highlights the profound impact of the DoEd's reduction on millions of students and numerous educational institutions. With 50 million children in secondary schools and 12 million in higher education relying on federal funding and regulatory oversight, the dismantling of the department threatens to disrupt essential services, including civil rights protections and federal student aid programs.
Key Statistics:
Popok commends Letitia James and the coalition for their strategic legal battles against the Trump administration, noting a remarkable success rate of over 90% in obtaining temporary restraining orders. He emphasizes the importance of these legal actions in safeguarding public education and maintaining federal oversight to ensure equitable funding and anti-discrimination measures.
Notable Quote:
"Letitia James alone has four separate temporary restraining orders that she's obtained already against this administration. I predict, this will be the fifth."
– Michael Popok (07:00)
Looking ahead, Popok anticipates continued legal challenges as more states join the coalition to protect the Department of Education. He underscores the critical role of state Attorneys General in upholding constitutional checks and balances against executive overreach. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to support pro-democracy initiatives and stay informed through the newly launched Legal AF YouTube channel.
Final Remarks:
"These are important cases to bring against this administration, which is rogue, out of control, ultra-vires and drunk with power."
– Michael Popok (07:50)
This episode of Legal AF offers a comprehensive examination of the legal strategies employed by state coalitions to defend federal institutions against executive attempts at reorganization or elimination. By highlighting the interplay between law and politics, Michael Popok provides listeners with a clear understanding of the stakes involved in safeguarding public education and maintaining constitutional governance.