JD Vance makes Stunning Confession on Live TV

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Episode: JD Vance makes Stunning Confession on Live TV

Date: October 16, 2025
Host: Michael Popok (with clips featuring Ben Meiselas, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, George Stephanopoulos, JD Vance, Pam Bondi, Tom Homan)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Michael Popok dissects a bombshell live TV exchange where JD Vance, while defending former Trump border czar Tom Homan, appears to confirm the existence of a surveillance video of Homan allegedly accepting a $50,000 bribe. The conversation dives deep into the legal, ethical, and political implications of the scandal, focusing on the GOP's efforts to deflect, the media's role, and the ongoing lawsuit seeking the release of the damning evidence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Alleged Bribery: What Happened?

• Incident Recap:

  • Tom Homan, poised to be Trump's “border czar,” was reportedly caught on FBI surveillance in September 2024 taking $50,000 in cash—stuffed in a Kava restaurant takeout bag—from undercover agents he believed to be federal contractors.
  • In exchange, Homan allegedly agreed to help direct contracts as part of his future government role.

• FBI Operation:

  • Surveillance included both audio and video.
  • Senate Democrats have demanded this evidence, resulting in a lawsuit for its release after repeated refusals by officials.

• GOP Response:

  • Consistent deflection, denial, and shifting of the narrative from whether Homan took the money to whether it was criminal or deserved.

The JD Vance “Confession” (03:45–06:12)

• On George Stephanopoulos’ Show:

  • JD Vance sidesteps direct questions about whether Homan accepted or kept the cash, morphing the issue into a partisan attack and painting Homan as a victim of harassment.
  • When pressed about the tape, Vance claims ignorance, saying, "I don't know what tape you're referring to, George... I don't even know the video that you're talking about." ([06:12])

• Analysis by Michael Popok:

  • Points out the key slip by Vance, confirming the existence of a video:

    “Stephanopoulos kept saying audio, audio surveillance, audio. And, and the J.D. vance said, I don't know what video you're talking about because we know there's a video, JD and we know you've seen it.” ([06:35])

Classic Deflection Techniques on Display

Pam Bondi's Senate Testimony (08:31–10:49)

• Repeated Dodging:

  • Bondi, asked by Senator Whitehouse about the whereabouts of the $50,000:

    "Senator, as recently stated, the investigation of Mr. Homan was subjected to a full review." ([08:46])

    • NEVER actually says what happened to the cash.
    • Tries to shift the focus to the ethics of questioning Homan rather than addressing the facts.

• Testy Exchange:

  • Bondi insists she doesn't know whether audio/video exists, bristles at any suggestion of lying, and ultimately redirects responsibility:

    "You'd have to talk to Director Patel about that." ([09:43])
    "I'm not going to sit here and slander Tom Homan, the FBI and Deputy Director Blanch said there was nothing." ([10:40])

Tom Homan’s Own Defense (11:09–12:14)

• Homan on Record:

  • Does not deny taking money; insists he did nothing criminal or illegal:

    “I did nothing criminal. I did nothing illegal. I did nothing wrong. And this is a series of hits against me... I met with ethics attorneys... I recused myself from all federal contracts. I won’t have any decision making in any federal contract.”
    ([11:09])

• Popok’s Take:

  • Highlights the shifting narrative—from evidence denial to justification:

    "Taking 50,000 isn't a bribe. It's just him accepting cash. He's allowed to have cash. I'm so. I'm sure he's taking another $50,000 in paper bags at a restaurant." ([12:14])

Media, Money, and Power

• ABC News’ Relationship with the Trump Administration:
  • Popok describes ABC's previous $15 million settlement with Trump after George Stephanopoulos' “rapist” gaffe in the E. Jean Carroll case, and Disney/ABC's deference to White House/FCC pressure over Jimmy Kimmel.
  • Critiques the media's attempts to appease the Trump administration:

    “Once you bend the knee, you better just stay down, just stay down on the knee because you're going to have to do it again.” ([12:14])

Follow the Money: Legal Implications

• Popok on Legal Concerns:
  • Speculates on money laundering and tax violations if the cash entered the banking system unreported:

    “If you deposit in a whole $50,000, then the bank has to fill out a suspicious transaction report, an STR... try to get below the $10,000 reporting requirement... you could be guilty of structuring.” ([06:35])

  • Calls for Homan’s tax returns and full accounting of the money.

Lawsuit for the Truth

• Current Status:
  • Advocacy group Democracy Forward is suing in federal court to force release of the surveillance tape, after a FOIA request was denied.
  • Popok notes Democracy Forward’s high success rate against the Trump administration and teases more updates to come.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• J.D. Vance’s Telling Dodge:

  Stephanopoulos: “Did he accept the $50,000 that was caught on the surveillance?”
  Vance: “I don't know what tape you're referring to, George. …I don't even know the video that you're talking about.”
  ([06:04]–[06:12])

• Michael Popok’s Analysis:

  “Did you catch it there?... JD and we know you've seen it.”
  ([06:35])

• Pam Bondi Stonewalls:

  “You'd have to talk to Director Patel about that…” ([09:43])
  “Senator Whitehouse, you're welcome to talk to the FBI.” ([09:00]) Interviewer: “You do know the answer to that.”
  Bondi: “Don't call me a liar.” ([09:49])

• Tom Homan’s Self-Defense:

  “I've never seen any evidence that he's engaged in criminal wrongdoing. Nobody has accused Tom of violating a crime, even the far left media like yourself.”
  ([05:35]) “I did nothing criminal. I did nothing illegal. I did nothing wrong…” ([11:09])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:28–03:45]: Michael Popok lays out the bribery case and context.
• [03:45–06:12]: JD Vance interviewed by George Stephanopoulos, with Vance’s evasive responses and claimed ignorance of the video at issue.
• [06:35–08:31]: Popok breaks down the deflection and introduces Pam Bondi testimony.
• [08:31–10:49]: Pam Bondi grilled at Senate confirmation, repeatedly dodges questions about the $50,000.
• [11:09–12:14]: Tom Homan responds publicly, denies criminality but not the transaction.
• [12:14–17:32]: Broader media context; discussion of ongoing lawsuits and final thoughts.

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Tone & Style

• Popok's Delivery:
  Sharp, direct, at times sarcastic—he pulls no punches in critiquing both Republican denials and media cowardice.
• Guests/Clips:
  Defensive, evasive, frequently trying to change the subject, especially Vance and Bondi.
• Overall:
  “Hard-hitting” and incredulous at the lack of straightforwardness from public officials.

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Summary: Why This Episode Matters

This episode lays bare the mechanics of political scandal management in real time: stonewalling, redefining the narrative, and attacking the questioners. JD Vance's slip on national TV brings new confirmation of damaging evidence, further pressuring an administration already under legal scrutiny. Through detailed breakdown, Popok illuminates not just what is known about the Homan bribery case, but how the cycle of media, law, and politics plays out when power is at stake.

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Transcript

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Her story well, JD Vance went on George Stephanopoulos show and effectively confessed that there is a Tom Homan bribery video. See George Stephanopoulos kept asking him about audio surveillance and in response he said, I don't know what video you're talking about. Thanks JD we can always count on you to make scandals get worse for the Trump administration, not better. Especially when you go on television. I'm Michael Popak. We're covering the Tom Homan bribery scandal because nobody on the right wing will dare to touch it with a 10 foot pole because they've been threatened, I'm sure, by the Trump administration. Tom Holman is the border czar. Here are the facts on Midas Touch and Legal af. Tom Oman was not the border czar in November of 2024, but he was already announced that he was going to be the border czar for Donald Trump. He met with two undercover FBI agents he thought were federal contractors. They met at a restaurant named Kava. There was a $50,000 cash shoved into a Cava takeout bag and it was pushed across the table to Tom Homan. According to the FBI agents And things that have leaked out about it. Tom Homan said, I'm going to keep the money. I'm going to keep the money in my escrow or trust account. I'm not going to take the money or use it until I deliver on my promises. The promises were in the exchange for the 50,000 that he would help, through his role as the border czar, direct certain federal contracts to certain vendors represented by what he thought were these two gentlemen who were undercover FBI agents. You know, there's surveillance video and audio. And ever since we learned about those surveillance videos, the Democrats and the Senate have tried to get it. And ultimately there's been a lawsuit filed to get the video and audio. And every time you ask somebody in an administration position, every time you ask somebody in an administration position about whether the audio or video will be released, they act like they don't know what you're talking about. Like you're not speaking English. We had Pam Bondi in her Senate confirmation here and go, I don't know what audio or video you're talking about. Now we've got JD Vance, who admits there's a video. Let's run the interview.

[George Stephanopoulos]

Tom Holman was recorded on an FBI surveillance tape in September 2024 accepting $50,000 in. Did he keep that money or give it back?

[Tom Homan Supporter/Defender]

George, you've covered the story ad nauseum. Tom Homan did not take a bribe. It's a ridiculous smear. And the reason you guys are going after Tom Homan so aggressively is because he's doing the job of enforcing the law. I think it's really preposterous. I know Tom. I think that he's a good man. He gets death threats, he gets attacked. He gets constantly threatened by people because he has the audacity to want to enforce the country's immigration laws. I think that it would be a much more interesting story about why is it that Tom Homan, who is simply enforcing Americans immigration laws, is getting constantly harassed and threatened to the point of death threats? That's a much more interesting question that I think journalists should focus on. We can agree to disagree on that question.

[George Stephanopoulos]

You said he didn't take a bribe, but I'm not sure you answered the question. Are you saying that he did not accept the $50,000?

[Tom Homan Supporter/Defender]

George, this story has been covered ad nauseam. He did not take a bribe. Did he accept $50,000? I'm sure that in the course of Tom Homan's life, he has been paid more than $50,000 for services. The question is, did he do something illegal. And there's absolutely no evidence that Tom Homan has never taken a bribe. I'm asking you, which is why he's working in the administration.

[George Stephanopoulos]

I'm asking you, did he accept the $50,000 that was caught on the surveillance? Did he accept that $50,000 or not?

[Tom Homan Supporter/Defender]

George, I don't know what you're talking about. Did he accept $50,000 for what?

[George Stephanopoulos]

He was recorded on an audio tape in September 2024, an FBI surveillance tape accepting $50,000 in cash. Did he keep that money.

[Tom Homan Supporter/Defender]

Accepting $50,000 for doing what? George, I'm not even sure I understand the question. Is it illegal to take a payment for doing services? The FBI has not prosecuted him. I've never seen any evidence that he's engaged in criminal wrongdoing. Nobody has accused Tom of violating a crime, even the far left media like yourself. So I'm actually not sure what the precise question is. Did he accept $50,000? Honestly, George, I don't know the answer to that question. What I do know is that he didn't violate a crime.

[George Stephanopoulos]

So you don't what was caught on the tape. You're saying right now you don't know whether or not he kept that money.

[Tom Homan Supporter/Defender]

I don't know what tape you're referring to, George. I saw media reports that Tom Homan accepted a bribe. There's no evidence of that. And here's George, why fewer and fewer people watch your program and why you're losing credibility because you're talking for now five minutes with the Vice President, United States about this story regarding Tom Homan, a story that I've read about, but I don't even know the video that you're talking about.

[Michael Popak]

Did you catch it there? Stephanopoulos kept saying audio, audio surveillance, audio. And, and the J.D. vance said, I don't know what video you're talking about because we know there's a video, JD and we know you've seen it. But look at the good. Look at the way they're conflating and alighting around in the new language that they're using around the Tom Holman scandal. It's not that he didn't take 50,000. It's that he deserved it. It's that he earned it and it's that he kept it. It's that he may have kept it, but it's for something. But it's not illegal. The thing he took it for. Right? The FBI undercover agents portraying federal contractors just gave a gift of taxpayer dollars to Tom Homan, who he's Never. Who's never returned it. I want to see Tom Holman's tax returns. I want to see how he's reported that 50,000. I want to see how he deposited it in the bank. Because if you deposit in a whole $50,000, then the bank has to fill out a suspicious transaction report, an STR. And if you bring it in below 50,000, let's say you do 9,000, 9,000, 9,000,. 9,000, whatever, to try to get below the $10,000 reporting requirement that banks have to make to report to the IRS and other things, then you could be guilty of structuring. And that's also a red flag behind a bank. Is it in his mattress that he give it to somebody else who deposited it where? It's not for me. Follow the money. But you hear. You hear the new version. Now, the old version was. Don't you attack the honesty of Tom Homan. He's been investigated by the. By corrupt Department of Justice, says Pam Bondi, and he's been completely cleared. In other words, he didn't make a promise to return for the 50,000. Let's play Pam Bondi back to back. A couple of her beauties, a couple of her testimonies at the Senate last week.

[Senator]

What became of the $50,000 in cash that the FBI delivered, evidently in a paper bag to Mr. Homan?

[Pam Bondi]

Senator, I'd look at your facts.

[Senator]

Are you saying that they did not deliver $50,000 in cash to Mr. Homan?

[Pam Bondi]

Senator, as recently stated, the investigation of Mr. Homan was subjected to a full review.

[Senator]

A different question.

[Pam Bondi]

They found no evidence of wrongdoing.

[Senator]

That's a different question. What became of the $50,000?

[Pam Bondi]

Senator Whitehouse, you're welcome to talk to the FBI.

[Senator]

The report to you. Can't you answer this question?

[Pam Bondi]

Senator Whitehouse, you're welcome to discuss this with Director Patel.

[Senator]

Did homan keep the $50,000?

[Pam Bondi]

As Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche recently stated, the investigation of Mr. Holman. Never mind.

[Senator]

I can see I'm not going to get a straight answer from you. To a very simple.

[Pam Bondi]

Five FBI agents and the doj. They found no credible evidence of wrongdoing.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

I do want to go back to Homan. You know there's a tape, right, with Mr. Homan. I mean, first of all, is there a tape that has audio and video of the transfer of the 50,000?

[Pam Bondi]

You would have to talk to Director Patel about that.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

No, I'm talking to you.

[Pam Bondi]

I don't know the answer.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

Senator, you do know the answer to that.

[Pam Bondi]

Don't call me A liar.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

I didn't call you a liar.

[Pam Bondi]

You just said, I know the answer. I said I don't know the answer.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

You have to talk to.

[Pam Bondi]

Okay, Director Patel, what I said is that investigative.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

If you don't know, why don't you know whether there was a tape and video.

[Pam Bondi]

Senator, I believe that was resolved prior to my confirmation as Attorney General.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

Do you think that it is of public interest for the people to know what happened to the 50 grand that the FBI turned over to Homan?

[Pam Bondi]

Did you hear what I just said? That was resolved prior to my confirmation as Attorney General. That's why I said I would not go.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

It is first it's not resolved. There's $50,000. Homan has it or somebody has it. Do you have no interest in knowing where it is?

[Pam Bondi]

You're not going to sit here and slander Tom Homan, the FBI and Deputy Director Blanch said there was nothing.

[Interviewer/Questioner]

I'm not slamming Tom Homan.

[Pam Bondi]

He got the 50 Tom Holman is doing. How do you know that? Tom Homan is doing a great job. Job as our borders are keeping your border state safe.

[Michael Popak]

Now, Tom Oman hasn't helped himself out either, as we know, because when he was hit with the question, he didn't deny taking the money. In fact, he doubled down that he was entitled to the money. Let's play that clip.

[Tom Homan]

I did nothing criminal. I did nothing illegal. I did nothing wrong. And this is a series of hits against me. Since the beginning of the year, there was. There's been hit pieces about every week. There was a hit piece on my security detail saying I had 30, 31 security detail. I'm wasting millions of dollars. I had about a fraction, a quarter of that. I think I had eight security detail at the time. I had a four car caravan. I had two. Another story about I'm helping certain companies with the contracts. Here's what people need to understand. Day one of the administration. When President Trump asked me to come back and we entered on duty, I met with ethics attorneys and by law you're supposed to recuse yourself from any company you had affiliations with before. But I took it a step further. I recused myself from all federal contracts. I won't have any decision making in any federal contract. But people, including this recent case, people are saying, I'm going to line the pockets of people. The hit pieces keep coming, but I know who's chumming the water. I know who keeps throwing this information out and the media jumps all over it and they're going to see some legal actions. Real soon. I'm working on a legal team. I'm done with it now.

[Michael Popak]

Once again, we got an ABC White House problem. It's really an ABC problem for the White House. ABC infamously paid $15 million several years ago when George Stephanopoulos, during an interview with Eugene Carroll, called Donald Trump a rapist when he should have called him, apparently a sex abuser. Eugene Carroll in her trial 9, 0 in front of a jury, federal jury in New York proved that Donald Trump had sexually abused her. The only reason it wasn't rape under New York law is because at the time, in order to prove rape as a crime, you needed to show that the, that the assailant put his penis inside of the woman. Any other type of penetration did not count as rape. It does now. It didn't then. So the highest crime that Donald Trump could have been charged with and that was the focus of a civil trial, was sex abuse. But I don't think jumping up and down like if you were at a party and somebody pointed their finger at you in the middle of the cocktail party and said you're a rapist. I don't think yelling back, no, I'm not. I'm a sex abuser. I, I don't think that helps you see my point. But to abc, who was worried about the incoming Trump administration, they quickly stroked a check for $15 million, the equivalent of George Stephanopoulos salary. And that's going for some sort of presidential library, you know what I mean, for Donald Trump. And then once you bend the knee, you better just stay down, just stay down on the knee because you're going to have to do it again. Fast forward to Jimmy Kimmel several weeks ago. ABC again. ABC has got a lot of complicated relationships with its TV affiliates because the affiliates are how you see television. The broadcaster is abc. The affiliates and many of them owned by right wing Christian right ownership blocks like Sinclair. They were, some of them were in negotiations with the White House and the Federal Communications Commission over a huge $6.2 billion transaction that needed the White House approval through Brendan Carr, the FCC chairperson. That, that is a major MAGA Trumper project, 2025 person. So of course Brendan Carr, right on cue, attacked ABC. I'm going to take your license away if you keep Jimmy Kimmel on because Jimmy Kimmel made a comment about Charlie Kirk apparently. Apparently dissent is the equivalent of disloyalty and you must be taken out in the back and shot. So ABC folds again, doesn't pay any dime, doesn't pay a stroke of check this time, but takes Jimmy off the air for a couple of days until the public responded. Hulu subscribers responded, Hollywood responded. And suddenly ABC said, okay, Jimmy, come on back. Now you got another George Stephanopoulos problem. We'll see what they're going to do. I mean, they're owned by Disney. It's hard to believe that Disney is the same company. Then the first term stood up against Donald Trump about the LGBTQ+ community. It's hard to believe this is the same company. But you know, a lot has changed the last five years post Covid and that's where we're at. But you know, I can always count on J.D. vance. He goes on to talk about the Epstein scandal. He makes it worse. He goes on and talks about, you know, the Tom Holman bribery scandal. He tries to tap dance his way around. Taking 50,000 isn't a bribe. It's just him accepting cash. He's allowed to have cash. I'm so. I'm sure he's taking another $50,000 in paper bags at a restaurant. Audio, audio, audio. I don't know about audio. There is a video of Tom Holman, but I'm but I don't think you're entitled to it. Just as A side note, PS Democracy Forward, which has about 90 different lawsuits against the Trump administration and is winning at about a 90% clip, has a new lawsuit to get the video slash audio surveillance tape. It's in federal court in D.C. i've had sky Perryman on to talk to me about it. We're going to see exactly the judge assigned and then this was off of a Freedom of Information act request that was rejected by the Trump administration. But now here we are with a lawsuit to get the tape. Thanks for telling us that one exists. J.D. vance, we can always count on you. I'm Michael Popak. We can count on you here on Midas Touch and Legal af. Take a minute, come over to Legal AF substack, hit the free subscribe button and help us with our Legal AF YouTube channel as well. So until my next report, this is Michael. Can't get your fill of Legal af. Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF sub stack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral argument, come over to the substack. You'll find the court filing in the oral argument there, including a daily roundup that I do called Wait for it Morning af. What else? All the other contributors from Legal AO are there as well. We got some new reporting. We got interviews, we got ad free versions of the podcast and hot takes where legal AF on substack. Come over now to free subscribe.

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