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Michael Popak
Welcome to the Intersection. I'm Michael Popach and I sit at that intersection to defend democracy. But I do it with you and for you. So glad you're here on the Midas Touch network. As many people know, I'm traveling. I'm in Chicago today as part of my the POPOC firm. I'm meeting with all of the lawyers who work with me on these plaintiffs cases around the country. It was time for us to come together in one place and we chose Chicago. But I couldn't miss the intersection. Let's get to it. We have so much to talk about. Ghislaine Maxwell. Brand new reporting, new receipts. Trump folds against the Wall Street Journal. The economy is in free fall and is stalling out. And then I want to talk about voting and why it matters and what courts are doing about election integrity and voter protection. Let's start right right away, get into it with Ghislaine Maxwell. Got some number of things that are data points but I'm going to tie them all together right here. I think that's why you join me. We're watching the slow motion pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. We're watching somebody, Donald Trump, who is so depraved and is so immoral that he needs to get an absolution and he needs to get character vouching and and a character reference from a convicted child sex offender. Let that sink in for A minute. How low have you sunk when you need a sex offender who's serving 20 years in prison for not just watching but arranging sex abuse, participating in sexual abuse and assaults of girls and women, how low have you sunk that you need her to vouch for you? Because that's what we're watching. Here's the new data point. Couple of them. One, remember that nine hour interview that Todd Blanch, Donald Trump's favorite criminal defense lawyer, who sometimes is our Department of Justice number two. Nine hours he spent with a convicted child sex offender. Never in the history of the Department of Justice. And I say that a lot about this Department of Justice, never have we ever had leadership go to a prison in order to interview a convicted sex offender. Apparently that was recorded audio and video, as I expected. And now, because they like the results, which is going to be some version of her saying, let me. Spoiler alert. Donald Trump wasn't on the plane to the island. Donald Trump didn't go to the island. Donald Trump didn't like little girls. Donald Trump didn't have sex or rape girls. Um, you know, he wasn't that close of a friend. And the rest. And then the rest of it, her exonerating herself and dumping on 100 other people not named Donald Trump. That's what's on the tape. I suspected it was on the tape because before Todd Blanche even goes to Tallahassee, Florida, where she was at the time, but is no longer and meets with David Oscar Marcus, his buddy, his friend, her lawyer, brought in by Alan Dershowitz, Harvard law professor, accused himself in the sex trafficking at one time and represented Epstein. So you can't trust him or anything he says on television. He obviously brings in David Oscar Marcus, who he knew from Harvard. They're close friends. David Oscar Marcus is friends with Todd Blanche. There's a phone call. I've made them before. You make a proffer as the lawyer. This is what my client's going to say. If you agree to meet with her and you give her immunity and you give the proffer as the lawyer. No Fifth Amendment. She's going to say, Todd, that your guy was innocent, your guy wasn't involved, your guy didn't like this, and whatever Todd said, that sounds good to me, I will give your client immunity. The big client, the big boss told me I could give immunity. Stop right there. Donald Trump and a judge sex offender just gave immunity. Queen for the day. Immunity. That's what it's called to a convicted child sex trafficker. Okay, now fast forward. So there was a Long call, I'm sure, between David, I'd like the tape of that. Forget the audio of the interview. I'd like the audio of the David, Oscar, Marcus, Todd, Blanche call. That's what we want to get our hands on. And then he goes up there, nine hours and he says, like Cheshire Cat smile like the Mona Lisa. I don't know. I don't. They'll be released in due time. The notes or the results. And now I see they're considering releasing the video and the audio. If they're, if they're considering doing that. Let me, let me fast forward, cut to the chase. As they say, it's because she did a character vouch for Donald Trump. Otherwise they wouldn't possibly. Because you know what would happen if she said, well, you know, there were times when there were closed doors and I don't know what was going on back there. There were a lot of girls floating around. You know, she said something like that. It would be like, well, to protect the victims, to protect the innocent. You know, she's got a case up on appeal. We can't release it. But the fact that they're even considering releasing it, let's call it for what it is. Slow motion pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell, who's not a victim. So we got that. That announced as the GOP MAGA are lobbying Donald Trump to not pardon Ghislaine Maxwell. Think about that. As decrepit and depraved and valueless as the MAGA Republicans are under Donald Trump, they are lobbying him not to do it because they don't, not because they care about him or the victims, thousands of them. They're worried about their own political hides. It would be terrible because every Democratic candidate in every district for Congress is going to pin that on the Republicans. What kind of party are you? How low have you sunk that your sex abuser president needs a child sex trafficker to admonish to, to absolve him? They'll never work. Donald Trump likes to surround himself with sexual, with sex traffickers and convicted child sex felons and people who are indicted for that. Why is Lawrence Taylor for the New York Giants up on the stage last week with Donald Trump about fitness for youth? You want Lawrence Taylor convicted, I think twice, not once, of sexually assaulting a girl. You want him up on a stage with, with, with children, talking about children or talking to children? He even said it one. But I don't even know why I'm here. I'll serve you. Donald Trump is also considering pardoning. Diddy why? Another buddy. I know there's photos another buddy of his. You know, he's got a thing for child sex traffickers. That just did. Just is. So while that's going on, right on cue. And it's a setup. Maga, Congress and the Oversight Committee, James Comer, he's now subpoenaing the Epstein files, not the grand jury records, which we'll go over in a minute because that's the third piece of data that came out today. Not that he wants the entirety of the Epstein files, which we know is about 35 to 40 gigabytes. Picture a couple of tractor trailers filled with information that the FBI poured over at Pam Bondi's behest that contains the name of Donald Trump. And many of it was redacted. That's what they've requested or demanded by subpoena. But at the same time, because they got to keep the distraction pressure up, they also want Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and James Comey and Robert Mueller and this federal prosecutor and the Attorney General, Merrick Garland. It's ridiculous. Hoping all they're doing is trying to invite a negotiation and a bargain and a compromise with the Democrats over. Well, if you don't want Bill and Hillary, you know, then give up on the Epstein files. That that's what they're trying to set up. This false equivalency, you know, it's like they're holding it hostage. We're going to shoot Bill and Hillary unless you give us the Epstein files. You give up on the Epstein files. That's all that's going on here. And of course, they gave Ghislaine Maxwell a break right on cue. Within days of her being relocated to posh new luxury prison accommodations, the James Comer suddenly backed off and said, well, we don't need to take her deposition before Congress right now. We can wait till the Supreme Court rules on her case. Rules on her case about what? Her case is not about the victims evidence that she was wrongly convicted. Her case at the Supreme Court, her appeal is about whether she gets the benefit of an immunity agreement that was signed by Jeffrey Epstein, negotiated by Alan Dershowitz 15 years ago, which she's not named in, she wasn't a party to and she didn't sign. That's the case. It's not that she's not a convict. She doesn't think that she's innocent. She just thinks she has immunity. So why do we have to hold back on all of this testimony stuff? But that was at the behest of the White House. The White House is trying to figure out a way to take oxygen out of this story. Although they keep blowing oxygen through bellows into the fire and it blows up on them. Then you have this reporting and Donald Trump, or he talks, of course, the deeper holy digs about right after. Within days of her giving the testimony that's now gonna be released to the public. Get it? Ghislaine Maxwell receives part of her payment. I mean, the big payment is the pardon, but she got a partial down payment on her pardon. She got moved from a minimum security prison to a low security camp. She gets to go to camp for the summer in Texas, along with a bunch of other C and D and E and G and Z rated and Z listed minor celebrities who are over there. Like some, you know, the Shahs of Salt Lake City, Real Wives is in there for fraud, and Elizabeth Holmes is in there for fraud. And now they're moving her in. It's a camp. There's like no cells. You live in a dormitory. You live in a bunk. You know, there's like a low wall. You could easily hop over and leave. That was a reward. They asked Donald Trump today, did you know she was transferred? Of course he approved the transfer and he said no. But it's not unusual. It is. That's a lie. It's very. It's not only unusual, it's against Bureau of Prisons policies. I defy anyone from the Bureau of Prisons. Come on my show and tell me another circumstance where a convicted sex offender was given a reward and upgraded to posh new prison assignment, new prison relocation, and that. Then that won't take long for you to come on the show because the answer is zero. The answer is that's never happened. That's how uncommon it is. Why would you be rewarded? And let's again stamp out once and for all in your conversation with people in your life and social media that Ghislaine Maxwell is a predator. We just got a new filing from David Oscar Marcus, the appeal lawyer, because Judge Engelmeier in New York, one of two judges handling the remaining. Are we going to release the. The grand jury transcripts are not issue, and I don't think they are. He wanted to hear from the victims and he wanted to hear from Ghislaine Maxwell. Victims were like, release the files. You know, I know some lawyers that represent some of the victims. Release the files. But he wanted to hear what Ghislaine Maxwell had to say. Ghislaine Maxwell said, oh, no, don't release the files. Oh, no. The first line in the brief filed by David Oscar Marcus is my favorite line. Jeffrey Epstein's dead. Ghislaine Maxwell isn't. And. And she's a scapegoat. And she's the fall guy because she's the only living participant in the conspiracy. That's why she's a fall guy. No, she got convicted, David. Sorry. Because she committed crimes. Crimes against humanity, crimes against girls. That's why she was convicted. So I don't want to hear any other attempt. If the neck. Next thing out of anybody's mouth on the MAGA side that comes out of their pie hole, out of their face. If I hear them try to make her to be some sort of victim to soften up the public for the pardon, I'm going to vomit. Maybe not on air, maybe on the. Live on substack. Come over to Legal. A F. Sub stack. Who knows? Maybe I will do that. So his new filing is. Don't release it. Of course they. Epstein's. Sorry. Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers and Ghislaine don't want that released. She's trying to curry favor with the. With the. With the public. She's trying her case in the public. She wants people to think, oh, Ghislaine Maxwell, poor little rich girl, fell in with Epstein for 15 years while he abused girls, that she participated in that she hunted for him.
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Yeah. She. She doesn't want anything. As David Moss, Oscar Marcus is so delicately crafting a counter story in the public's mind that she's the victim and that she should be released. Which is what he said. Exactly. In. And she's been the scapegoat, the fall guy or fall woman. He doesn't want real evidence to come out that would puncture a hole in that. He needs that mythology to survive long enough for Donald Trump to grace them with a pardon. If the evidence came out of the. There was only. By the way, there was only two witnesses in the. In the Ghislaine Maxwell grand jury. Two. An FBI agent and a member and a New York City detective member of the sex Crimes Task Force that they did a summary. It's called a summary witness. They did a summary of the evidence and, you know, put on a lot of bad evidence, about a thousand victims. And she doesn't want that out right now. Right. She's trying to tiptoe through, you know, what's the phrase? She's trying to run through the raindrops and not get wet. She's trying to run through a minefield, not blow off her legs and the victims are livid that she's being given this type of accommodation. This type of celebrity is being, is being, she's being bast in the glow of celebrity. Courtesy of Donald Trump, who won't reject giving her a pardon because he's going to give her a pardon. Have I said that before? And that's why the GOP MAGA are like, don't give her the pardon. That's radioactive. That makes you politically radioactive. Radioactive in us too. So that's where we are with all things Epstein. Right. I want to talk about for just a second a few things that are important in my life and on the intersection and things around Legal af. Hopefully. You know, I hope there's new audience members that don't know me from the legal I have world. But of course I'm the co founder of Legal af, the podcast that I do with Ben Mysalas and Karen Freeman. Nicknifolo Top 20 on all YouTube podcasts. That's all because of you. We appreciate that. Audio downloads do that too. We need that help as well. Legally, off the substack. We need more, more support there. I'm only asking for it because it's not, it's just necessary to kind of keep us on the line, in the air, on the air, put a ring fence around us, protect us. I won't go over the attacks that we get, but it would be helpful if we could get some more subscribers there. I have a new firm, it's a year old now, eight months old, that I formed called the POPOC firm, sort of standing on the shoulders of Legal AF and Midas Touch and the work that we've done there to support our audience, Legal AF and Midas Touch and Intersection audience. So if you have somebody in your life that has been the victim of a catastrophe, a truck accident case, a car accident case, a serious ride share Uber Lyft accident case, something that's been catastrophic with the major personal injury or God forbid, death, medical malpractice cases, civil rights cases of course, as well, if you have something like that. I've put together an amazing team around the country. I just met with them today in Chicago and they're called Big Auto. But don't be fooled by Big Auto. They're not just a personal injury firm. They are the top plaintiffs lawyers in America. To get into the club, they've got to have, they have to have collected at least $1 billion with a B on behalf of their clients and service them right and turn their cases around and try their cases and they have to be fully vetted and tested. And that's why I joined with them. Because you need the top lawyer who's in every jurisdiction who knows the judges, who knows those juries, who drinks that water. And more importantly, has the firepower and the expertise and the track record to beat big insurance companies that are trying to victimize the victims all over again. So go to The Popoc Firm. It's easy to find. It's at www.the popoc firm.com free case consultation form pops right up. You can read about our different practice areas or call our 1-800-number-1-877, Popak AF. And now, in addition to that, let's have a word from our sponsors that keep us on the air. Here we go.
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Michael Popak
Welcome back to the Intersection. The podcast with Michael Popak finally convinced the brothers give me my own show and it's here Tuesday nights at 8pm we have over 300,000 people. I'm so glad you're here. The way to support us of course is audio downloads. YouTube review us five star rate me. Come on over to legal AF the substack and legal AF the YouTube channel. I have 10 new videos a day up on legal YouTube channel with about a dozen contributors adding new ones every day. Got a great announcement. Adam Klassfield of All Rise News is coming to Legal AF starting this week. Adam Klassfeld, All Rise News can't find a finer mind when it comes to legal reporting. He was on Morning Joe at one point, but now we got him looking for daily videos with a new playlist called All Rise News. All right, let's get back to it. Speaking of all rise, something happened in the court today for Donald Trump and it was another example of him folding under pressure. It's Taco Tuesday for Donald Trump in the Wall Street Journal Rupert Murdoch case. What happened? Well, let me do a little wind up and then I'll do the pitch. The wind up is Wall Street Journal a couple of weeks ago runs that front page story. They got it dumped in their lap, I'm sure from some collaborator, some cooperating, some, some leaker gave them a copy of the leather bound scrapbook containing a birthday card pasted in it for Jeffrey Epstein by one Donald Trump. Who is the person that put together the scrapbook thing? Ghislaine Maxwell, of course. Donald Trump's BFF, one of his BFFs. Lots of. I mean, I'd have to do a show that went on for hours to show all the photos and videos of Ghislaine Maxwell, Donald Trump, Melania Epstein, Donald Trump, fill in the blank. So I'm not saying that Donald Trump sat down at an arts and crafts table and actually made it with like glitter, glitter, glitter and a glue gun. I'm not saying that he's got plenty of people in his office that can draw dirty pictures. And all he has to do after he gives the outline is come in and put that little Sharpie, you know, in the, you know, naughty parts of the woman that he drew. That's how that got made. And then I got glued a little glued into a book, a birthday present, along with lots of other people's birthday wishes for Jeffrey Epstein. The problem for Donald Trump is it was a terrible lousy look for Donald Trump to have said on one hand in an interview a year before the card making that Jeffrey Epstein likes those women young. And then when you have a convict, when, when you have a sex trafficker and a pedophile to be caught in your birthday card talking about him being an enigma and having secrets, that's a bad look, don't you think? Not for Donald Trump. I mean, I said in the first segment, he's got a convicted child sex trafficker who he needs to vouch for him. That shows you how low where he is. So you've got the book, you got the Wall Street Journal article. Donald Trump's livid about it. Calls up Rupert Murdoch before the publication, cuz he gets, he gets wind of it from the reporter and he says, Rupert, I didn't draw it, I don't write it, I don't doodle. And Rupert said, I'll look into it or, and, or I'll take care of it. Well, he took care of it. He took care of it. He went and talked to the reporters. I'm sure he talked to his First Amendment lawyers. They vetted the article three ways to Sunday, knowing I'm sure there were other newspapers that were ready to report on it. And they ran the story once they were comfortable that they were immune and insulated from defamation because they got the story right. And Donald Trump, he painted himself into a corner with the American public and maga. I got a sue now, gotta file that lawsuit. So he files a lawsuit in Miami Federal District Court. Why was it at West Palm Beach? For two reasons. Because when you file in the Southern District of Florida, where I practice, you can check the box for West Palm near Mar a Lago, where he lives, or you can check the box for Fort Lauderdale or Miami or something else. They picked Miami, I think for two reasons. One, they wanted to avoid Eileen Cannon because they didn't want the case assigned to her in case they got to elevate her to an appellate court judge or Supreme Court justice. I know we all just threw up on our mouth, but let's be honest with each other, right? That's why we're here at the intersection, to be honest. Then we'll, then we'll go over what to do next. And I think they wanted to avoid Judge Middlebrooks, the senior status judge, a Clinton appointee that already threw the book at Donald Trump and Alina Haba for over a million dollar fine when he found that their meritless lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, John Podesta and the rest, you know, was in bad faith. So they didn't want to get him. There's only, there's only three judges up there, Rosenberg, Middlebrooks and Cannon. They didn't want to do that one. So they went to Miami. But they happened to pull on the random will wheel of 20 judges. Darren gales. I love Darren Gales. He was a great state court judge. I supported his campaign. He got elevated by Obama to the federal bench, as many of the Miami judges do, and he's great. He was also the judge that presided over Michael Cohen's defamation case where Donald Trump sued him for $500 million. And that case did not go well for Donald Trump. Gales runs a tight ship. He's unflappable. He's got a great judicial demeanor. He reminds me, if you remember Judge Merchan in New York, his temperament. In fact, I've compared his temperament to the two of them together. And I've had people that have been before both agree with me. I've been before Gales, I haven't been before Merchant. So he told the judge, that's not going to allow any nonsense to happen in his courtroom. So Donald Trump, taking the lesson out of, we finished with Michael Cohen. So Michael Cohen right away demands a deposition of Donald Trump. In the very beginning. Donald Trump folds, dismisses the case. Donald Trump, I thought, well, it was good for Michael Cohen. I'll try it. So right away, within the first week of filing the lawsuit, before discovery, the exchange of documents, the meeting, the report you have to file with the judge, the order from the judge about discovery, before any of that is done, in the first month or two, they, he decides, oh, we'll catch him flat footed. I'll demand a deposition, an emergency deposition of Rupert Murdoch because he's old, I'm not kidding. It's a bene essay motion. It's a Latin term to preserve the evidence because you fear that the witness is going to die or be out of the jurisdiction, and you want to preserve it. So they wrote all sorts of terrible things about the, about the, you Know, The Murdoch being 94 years old and having Covid and broke his back and passed out and whatever. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 80, whatever he is, Donald Trump in his corpulent self, is in better shape than Rupert Murdoch. But be that as it may, that was pending. And now I said early on, if I were the lawyers for Murdoch, and he's got great lawyers. He's got a firm up in New York that represents all media outlets in first amendment cases. They're phenomenal. And local counsel, who I knew as well from my practice down here, I said if they were smart, they would say, you want his depot? We want your depot. Like the next day. Or, you know, and then horse straight. That's exactly what happened. They. I'm sure the meet and confer, which is the required phone call between the two. Two councils, went something like this. Hey, Alejandro. That's the lawyer for Donald Trump. I see you have this motion that you want to have a deposition of Rupert Murdoch under oath in 14 days. That's fine. But on the 15th day, have your client ready. Well, what do you mean? Well, we're taking your client. Well, don't you want discovery? Well, you don't seem to want it, so why don't we do it now? I said when that motion was filed that Donald Trump revealed himself that his case did not have merit because he said on the second page of his motion that all the knowledge about the case was in the mind of Rupert Murdoch. Well, how do you sue, then, if you don't have the proper grounds to sue? Okay, I think that was one part of the conversation. We want your debt. You want our deposition in two weeks. We want your deposition in two weeks, in one day. And everybody knows, unless you lived under a rock, that Donald Trump does terribly in depositions. Terribly. When he's not taking the Fifth amendment, making himself out to be a criminal. Have you seen him get beat mercilessly by Robbie Kaplan in the E. Jean Carroll case? He got so confused. He didn't know what photos were. He didn't recognize E. Jean Carroll. He thought it was his first wife or second wife, Marla Maples. He just said crazy things. Then he started attacking Robbie Kaplan, the lawyer, and her looks. I mean, it went nuts all on videotape, which was played in front of the jury. And that's one of the reasons they awarded her e. Jean Carroll, $83.5 million in one case. So he doesn't want to be deposed. And if anybody worth their salt, which there aren't any with integrity were around him, they would say to Donald Trump, with all due respect, boss, you suck in a deposition. I've prepared top Apex corporate executives for depositions. I have, and I've been candid with them. If they suck, you suck. We need to settle this case. That is some version of that has come out of my mouth sometimes. But Donald Trump doesn't have anybody around him that'll do that. So they said, I'm sure you want our guy, you want Murdoch, we want Trump. And then Trump said, that's okay, that's all right. Why don't we wait until you file your motion to dismiss, Washington Post, and we'll see what happens after that. So they filed a motion which, but I'm telling you that horse trading happened behind the scenes with Judge Gales. It said, yeah, we're good here. We're going to vacate the motion for the early Depot. Nobody's going to take any early depositions. Right, right. Like really nervous. And instead we're going to let the Washington Post file their motion to dismiss. They think so little of their own case, the Trump side, that they're going to let the Washington Post go first with the motion to dismiss. And only if that survives, only if they survive, will they then go into discovery mode. Yeah, that's a fold. That's the first step towards this case being dismissed. I talked about the first steps in the first segments as we move and march and lurch towards a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. Now I want to talk about something I've been doing every morning. First video on Legal AF is the Trumponomics analysis based on whatever data came in in that last 24 hours. I use my Wall street powers on that. It's something that I see the audience based on the viewership the audience is very into and I'm very into it. So let's, let's, let's dive into it. Every major economic barometer right now is down and trending down for Donald Trump's economy. Don't take your eye off the ball with the stock market. The stock market is going to go up and down and up and down and down and down and down from now through the September. That momentary thing yesterday where the market went up like one and a half points, one and a half percent. That was what we call dip buying because the tech stocks and other stocks had done a momentary dip for a dollar, $2, $3. So traders and professionals and computer driven trading bought to buy these stocks, which led to this unnatural rise. But every other major analyst Morgan Stanley, Chase, Evercore have all said the same thing in the last day. They don't like the numbers. They, they don't like the job numbers. They don't like how little we're making on the service side of our economy, how little we're making on the good side of our economy. Prices going up and tariffs haven't even hit yet. Jobs have bottoms dropped out. And so don't be surprised. I mean, this is not a stock show. But don't be surprised if the stock market drops 2 to 5% between now and September. That's why don't use the stock market as your barometer for the health of an economy or whether the, the economic policies of a president are working or not. We know they're not working. We know they're not working because if you go with your basket of goods at the supermarket, you're already 3% short. If you bring the same dollars from last year. I had somebody write in one of my chats to bring it home with a finer point, that the same exact items that she purchases at the supermarket are now $17 higher than they were last year, and she doesn't have the $17. That's where we are in this economy. So the numbers are down. There's an index that measures, for instance, the service economy. That means things that are sold by companies, by firms that aren't a hard, tangible good, you know, like something you can hold in your hand. So service is like law firms and accounting firms and healthcare firms and, you know, healthcare insurance companies, you know, and consultancies. That's what the technology services, not the hardware, not the thing you can hold, the consulting, the advisory, the management, that service economy. We have a huge service economy so big that America can't absorb it at all. Our consultants are firms in this country which are innovative in technology and law and accounting and health care and the rest. They want to go into open markets. So Donald Trump has shut the door to them. So the Service Economy Index, forget the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which was the gold standard until Donald Trump dropped his pants, took a crap on it, and fired the commissioner because he didn't like the numbers. I don't like to know I have an eraser or we'd expect. This is the guy who didn't like his own financial statement and he thought the numbers were too low. So he instructed Michael Cohen, as he testified, and Allen Weisselberg, as we know in his organization, to change the numbers and cook the books. Why wouldn't we think he'd want to cook the books on the job numbers. So he fought 258,000 less jobs in the last two months. You're fired. How about fire yourself? The problem is not the numbers and the reporting. The problem is the failed economic policy. So. But we don't only get numbers from government run statisticians. We also get numbers from industry independent bodies like a group that's dedicated to the service economy. And that index is in retrograde. It's fallen to the lowest ebb that it's been in about five years and shows that the service economy is rolling back at the same time the GDP is stagnant. Those are two bad things. Job numbers down, service economy down, consumer price up, consumer confidence down. Discretionary spending by people. That's stuff where you, you it. Once you get past your hard nut of your expenses that you gotta pay for to live, to eat, to pay the phone bill, to keep the lights on. Once you get paid, maybe your healthcare. Once you get past that. Discretionary spending is everything else. Amazon spending, street spending, restaurants, movies, travel, gym membership, streaming services, all of that. And that's down. And that's one of the drivers of the economy. So once you destabilize all that and you take away the government spending that was going on before Donald Trump got here to the tune of trillions of dollars to states, to programs and the rest, once you cut that, cut that, cut that and raise. Pardon me because got so excited I was knocked my lamp over and raised tariffs. What'd you think the economy was gonna do? Stall out. And that's what we're watching. And let me be clear about this. I'm not the grim reaper. I am not wishing on a star that the economy that the bottom drop out in order to punish Donald Trump. Cause it'll punish the rest of us. I'm in the economy, but I gotta call it the way I see it, right. I gotta be the umpire here. Especially at the intersection at this hot corner. So don't be surprised when the stock market, which Donald Trump is the only measure that's there's only two things he runs around celebrating taking victory laps on. Oh, hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs came in. Talk about that in a minute. And the stock market, stock market. And it's magical thinking. Take it off the board. It's going to drop 2 to 5% before September is over. Put that over here. Tariffs. I was not a math major. However I do know how less than greater than sign works. And I have a, I have a reasonable belief that 150 or 160 billion is less than a 1 billion trillion with a T. Donald Trump cut the tax rate for corporate America and the richest in America by over $1 trillion. He's brought in 158 billion in tariffs. I don't understand how 158 plugs a $1 trillion hole. Even if you take $1 trillion out of spending, which Donald Trump has done by getting rid of Medicare, Medicare, you know, cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, disability, the math still doesn't work. You're still short. So these are the aspects, the elements of the economy that we need to focus on and have these as our major talking points when we're trying to convince people to vote against Donald Trump, not against their interests, but against Donald Trump and MAGA at the midterms. Lastly, I want to talk on the intersection about voting and election integrity. I just did an amazing interview. Come on, come on over to Legal AF YouTube. You'll find it with yes, today, actually earlier this day's been so long. Earlier this morning with Paul Blumenthal. Paul Blumenthal, name might sound familiar. Sidney Blumenthal, who is in the Clinton White House, intrepid reporter and journalist, writes for HuffPo, has wrote the definitive biography of Abraham Lincoln. He's with me on Legal AF with Court of History where he and Sean Wilentz, who are both scholars and historians, put what we're watching with the Trump administration in historical perspective. And it's called Court of History because it's the highest court in the land. Right. History will judge harshly Trump and the Trump administration and the federal courts, particularly the U.S. supreme Court. Paul is Sidney's son who's a senior writer, investigative reporter for HuffPo and he just wrote a great piece about the Brennan center having come out with a new investigative article about how Donald Trump and people around him are trying to and have successfully so far torn down the guardrails that are surround voter integrity and election integrity and how they're getting away with it in plain sight to try to steal the midterm election and beyond. And it started almost from day one, if not before he brought in with him. And he's surrounded by not the reasonably competent technocrats that were in his first administration that I may have disagreed with on policy, but at least they were adults. He got rid of all of them. Now membership in the club of Trump only requires that you be, I guess, a right wing podcaster, a Fox, a Fox celebrity, a election denier, a birther denier that gets you into the highest levels around Donald Trump because he doesn't want anybody pushing back. He doesn't want anybody telling him no, that happened in 2016. He wants all gas, no brakes, green lights, no red. And he put people in charge that shouldn't be allowed to take a White House tour, let alone run our government and pull the levers of power. So that's why you get the right wing podcasters like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, and you get the Fox celebrities, minor celebrities like Pete Hegseth to run the Department of Defense and other Fox commentators like Tulsi Gabbard and Tom Holman. That's why you get the political hacks that are all that are, that have converted the Department of Justice into the political campaign arm of the Trump administration, like Pam Bondi, like Harmeet Dillon, head of the Civil Rights Division, look her up like Ed Martin. So once you put that group in, there's nothing to stop Donald Trump. That's why the Department of Justice has lost any shred of integrity or dignity and can't and will not be seriously taken by anybody in America as the, as the good faith law enforcement unit. They're just not, they say they represent the United States of America when they go to court, but they, the federal judges don't trust them. Appellate court judges don't trust them. And we here on the Midas Touch networking at the intersection, don't trust them. So Donald Trump first brings that group in, then he starts pardoning the Gen 6, the Gen 6 insurrectionists, because he needs to rewrite history and change history. Now he's going after all the law firms that would have, with their pro bono programs, would have tried to stop him in the courts about his attacks on voters and voter registration and voter data and election interference. He got rid of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency sisa, which had said that the last election was the most secure election they've ever covered. He mothballed and shuttered them, hollowed out all money for elections and votings, and then started to issue in March executive orders directed at states who are the.
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Podcast Summary: Legal AF by MeidasTouch
Episode: The Intersection with Michael Popok - 8/5/2025
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Host: Michael Popok
Executive Producer: Meidas Media Network
In this episode of Legal AF, host Michael Popok delves deep into the latest developments at the crossroads of law and politics. Skipping the usual advertisements and introductory segments, Popok offers a comprehensive analysis of high-profile legal cases, economic trends, and the ongoing battle over election integrity.
Timestamp: 00:59 - 13:55
Michael Popok opens the discussion by addressing the controversial potential pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell by former President Donald Trump. He criticizes the notion of Maxwell, a convicted individual involved in heinous crimes, vouching for Trump’s character.
He highlights the unprecedented nature of Maxwell receiving favorable treatment, including an upgrade to her prison accommodations, which Popok deems highly irregular and against Bureau of Prisons policies.
The host further explores the legal maneuvers surrounding Maxwell's appeal, emphasizing her attempt to shift public perception from perpetrator to victim. Popok critiques the involvement of high-profile lawyers like Alan Dershowitz, questioning their credibility and intentions.
Popok also discusses the GOP’s stance, revealing that MAGA Republicans are lobbying against the pardon to avoid political fallout, fearing that Democratic candidates will exploit Maxwell’s connection to Trump in upcoming elections.
Timestamp: 13:57 - 20:51
Transitioning to ongoing lawsuits, Popok examines Donald Trump's defamation case against the Wall Street Journal following the publication of a controversial article. He details Trump's strategic legal filings aimed at dismissing the case preemptively by attacking the credibility of Rupert Murdoch.
He critiques Trump's approach to depositions, recalling his previous courtroom demeanor and failures during testimonies, such as the E. Jean Carroll case.
Popok praises Judge Darren Gales for his composed handling of Trump's lawsuit, contrasting him with other judges who have previously ruled against Trump unfavorably.
Timestamp: 20:51 - 43:39
Shifting focus to economic analysis, Popok critiques Donald Trump's economic policies, highlighting indicators that suggest a downturn.
He discusses the volatility of the stock market, attributing recent fluctuations to "dip buying" rather than genuine economic recovery. Popok emphasizes the decline in the Service Economy Index and stagnant GDP growth, painting a bleak picture of the current economic landscape.
Popok criticizes Trump's fiscal decisions, including significant tax cuts and tariffs, arguing that they fail to address the underlying economic issues and contribute to the nation's financial instability.
Timestamp: 43:39 - 48:35
In the final segment, Popok addresses the ongoing struggles surrounding voting and election integrity amidst the Trump administration. He references a recent interview with Paul Blumenthal, shedding light on the Brennan Center's findings that illustrate how Trump and his allies are undermining electoral safeguards.
He details the administration's attempts to access voter data unlawfully and the resultant pushback from state officials and civil rights organizations aiming to protect the integrity of elections.
Popok underscores the importance of maintaining robust election defenses and criticizes the Trump administration's reliance on populist figures and delegitimizes their claims of defending voter integrity.
Throughout the episode, Michael Popok intersperses his analysis with promotions for his law firm, The Popoc Firm, and encourages listeners to support the podcast through subscriptions and reviews. He highlights upcoming content, including the addition of Adam Klassfield from All Rise News, promising deeper legal insights in future episodes.
This episode of Legal AF offers a critical lens on significant legal and political developments, emphasizing the need for vigilance in safeguarding democracy and ensuring accountability among those in power. Michael Popok’s fervent analysis provides listeners with a grounded understanding of complex issues that shape the nation's legal and political landscape.