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We are at war with the Trump administration, with his dictator policies, with his attempt to occupy democratic cities and states, his raids of political opponents through the FBI, his going after the independence of the Federal Reserve Bank. He's trying to destabilize everything around him in order for him to be the strongman dictator. He said it out loud during his own pressers where he mused to try to groom America into accepting a dictatorship by saying, I don't think all Americans think dictatorship is bad. We are at war. We're not just at war because Donald Trump is thinking about renaming the the Department of Defense. The Department of War. I don't like defense. It sounds weak. We should go back to Department of War. We are at war. Well, you're on the intersection with Michael Popak on the Midas Dutch network. But on today's episode, we're at war. And I think the sooner we reorient our our approach and reorganize our brain to that position of offense, not defense, and recognize that we are at war to save our democracy, the better off we're going to be and things will fall into place a lot better for us. Let's start with what I've said on my substack Live for Legal AF just the other day, which I'm now developing more as my working theory that Donald Trump is obviously grooming America for a number of things. Predators groom, and he is grooming America and trying to socialize things like dictatorship is okay. It's okay to use the D word. The D word for us is not dictatorship, it's democracy. And to have a president of the United States that occupies the Oval Office who so casually throws around the term, I'm not a dictator, but I'd like to be, or I'd be one on day one. Or this is, you know, there's some polling out there that shows not everybody's upset about dictatorships. While he hosts in the Oval Office the president of South Korea, at the same time, in front of the guy, compliments the strongman dictator of North Korea. And at the same time, here's my working theory, he's grooming America for a possible coup or takeover. So you have to take over that which you do not currently occupy. So a president, we don't normally talk about a president having to occupy anything because that person is by definition the most powerful person in the world and the leader of our democracy and the leader of the free world generally. So he doesn't have to worry about taking over states. The states all pledge allegiance to our constitutional republic. And the leader of that being the president of the United States. That's not the world that we find ourselves in with Donald Trump. He has split the country right down the middle, not quite down the middle, 23 blue states or so, 27 red. I'm not talking population now, I'm just talking headcount. And because the Democrats and the independents and the fair minded people occupy one sphere that he's not in, he sees it as a threat. And so his number one goal is to destabilize the not only democracy, but the Democrats brand trying to move to a one party system, which is a playbook page out of a playbook of dictatorship. And my working theory is that's the reason he needs to occupy with armed forces and our US Military states and cities. And I don't mean just any, I mean blue states and blue cities. It's occupation forces and threats of occupation forces, plain and simple. And he's being supported by what I refer to as the Red Army. The Red army is the National Guard from red states being sent in to reinforce Donald Trump's assault on liberty, assault on states rights, assault on sovereignty of the states and the 10th amendment. That's what we're watching. D.C. and LA. Dress rehearsal. Dress rehearsal for a potential coup in the future. We are at war. We, and I don't say that either cavalierly or as if that's a bad thing, because this war, this dispute has been brought to our shores by Donald Trump and not the other way around. We didn't ask for it, but now that we're here, we need to fight our way through it. I mean, one of the things I teach or had taught lawyers that worked for me about how to practice law, I would tell them we are not going to be the first litigation team or the first side to drag a case into the gutter or the sewer. But by God, if we are dragged into the sewer or to the gutter, we are going to brass knuckle our way out. We're at the brass knuckle our way out moment, everybody. You've got occupation forces in D.C. reinforced in LA, a threat against Chicago, a threat against Philadelphia. Four major cities are run by black Americans. They are under assault. It's a war. He's. Donald Trump is not only going after the Democratic brand, but he's going after the Democratic leadership, its icons, its idols, and a fair amount of black leadership and black female leadership. Is it, does anybody think it's a shock that he's opened up federal probes as the chief law enforcement officer against Letitia James, the black New York attorney general who took him down a number of times, including for civil fraud? Or that he's going after Lisa Cook now? I'll talk about that in the next segment. The Federal Reserve governor who has her chair until 2038, also black, or Mayor Bowser in D.C. also black, the Atlanta mayor, black, Chicago black, Los Angeles black. And as I just outlined, many of them women, which is, is it hopefully is a wake up call for that particular community who doubled their turnout for Donald Trump. I mean, I'm not blaming anybody. There's many reasons that Kabula Harris did not win that election. We got to do a whole show on it. We could do a whole seminar on it. But it didn't help that the Black vote went 8% to 16% in favor of Donald Trump. I hope now seeing the attacks on these, on these communities of color by Donald Trump, by his occupying forces and otherwise will be that wake up call which will help us at the midterms. So you have the working theory that we are at war, that Donald Trump is trying, through occupation forces reinforced by the Red army of the National Guard of Red states, doing a test run in Democratic strongholds, that he's aimed at Chicago, next on the list as a test case, as a dress rehearsal, it's a dry run to see how much in terms of authoritarian abuse and how much of America he can put under his heel before he is stopped. We are at war. And again, I don't say that to be, to make you feel bad, to make you feel like we're the victims. This is a war we can win, but this is a war we have to win. And I don't mean by taking up arms. I'm not, I'm not talking about a Second Amendment solution. I'm talking about at the ballot box, in the streets, in the marketplace of ideas, in the public square, in our resistance, in every way, shape or form, we shall overcome this administration. But we have to do it working together. The socializing of dictatorship and normalizing of it has to stop as well. Mainstream media plays right into Donald Trump's hands because they, you know, in the middle of this long news feed, you just see, you know, that CNN or MSNBC or any of our competitors, I guess they're called, they'll, they'll, you know, they'll be like, well, this happened and this happened and this happened. And Donald Trump said a lot of Americans are okay with dictatorship and this happened and this happened. Like, stop, can we go back a few? That's how you report it. So they leave it to us on legal aid that I might as touch to say our hair is on fire, say that we are at war. And these were declarations of war by Donald Trump. I'm not saying he's a dictator, although I am, but I am saying that other dictators thinks he's a dictator. That's why Donald Trump's closest relationships are not with Europe, not with our allies, not with the president of Europe, as Donald Trump likes to call the head of the eu. It's with dictatorships, it's the Orbans of the world, it's the North Koreans of the world, it's the China of the world and the Russia of the world. I mean, could he have boot licked Putin any harder during his last stop here in the United States? From the military being forced, the US Military being forced to bend the knee in front of Putin as Donald trump, like a 4 year old, applauded, apologies to 4 year olds, applauded for his enemy, his adversary, before a big meeting. Okay, you know what did Trump think he was going to PowerPoint Putin to death? Is that how that was going to work? He was going to kiss his ass enough that Putin would say, okay, I'll stop bombing. I mean, a couple of days after the meeting, Putin bombed an American interest in Ukraine, also on the way into Alaska, killed 11 Ukrainians in a bombing in Kiev, including a child. That's who we're dealing with. We're now two weeks out from the big meeting with Zelensky in the White House. Everybody, kumbaya. We're going to, where is it? Where, where's the ceasefire? There's no cease fire. Where's the peace deal? So, peace deal, as Donald Trump muses about being put on Mount Rushmore. Not kidding, by the way. That's never happening. Don't I know we're at war. But that's not, that's not one of it. That's not happening. Chisel his features, his fat, jolly face into Mount Rushmore. Not happening. Not happening. But he muses about it, you know, among other weird, weird ticks that Donald Trump has developed over the years that he says out loud. So we then watch. My other working theory as I, as I move down the chain here is that Donald Trump has on his shelf a whole bunch of things that he wants to release, but only at the right moment. If he loses something big during the day, by the afternoon, he will take that thing off the shelf and he will announce it. So when he loses Abrego Garcia's hearing, we'll talk about that. And is forced to keep Abrego Garcia in America so that the judge in the case, Judge Zinnis, can conduct a petition for writ of habeas corpus hearing. And that's seen as a big loser. And he gets bad press about saying that Americans, some Americans are okay with Dictatorship and, and complimenting dictators in front of the South Korean president all on the same day while he's hugging and almost French kissing the World cup, the solid gold World cup. Again, you know, this is a weird stew of a brain, and that's putting it mildly. What does he do in the, in the late afternoon? He drops the bomb. I'm firing. Lisa Cook, Federal Reserve even though he can't do it the way he can, certainly can't do it the way he's trying to do it. And that, and that, that sucks the air out of the room on all the bad media reporting. And the rest of it is a full frontal assault on the independence of the Federal Reserve. But he times these things. You watch it. If a bad news cycle hurts him, you know, he'll try to change the news cycle with something on his shelf. His, his bag of dirty tricks. It's just a bag filled with monkey wrenches. He just pulls another monkey wrench out and throws it. That's all. It's all he's got. The Ghislaine Maxwell release of the recordings of her interview is another prime example of my other working theory that Donald Trump times the release of new information or new executive orders or new lawsuits or new federal probes to step on stories that are bad for him. Ghislaine Maxwell gave that interview more than three weeks ago to Todd Blanche. You know, about the Epstein child, child sex trafficking crimes. I won't go over the details. We did it on Legal AF this past Saturday and I've done it in Substack Live. I encourage you to come over to Legal AF Substack Live as well. Great way to support what we're doing on legal af. We have about 80,000 people there now in less than a couple of months. And, and we're, and I'm doing these lives sort of like this, but I can do it at the minute, at the moment, at the market, pull everybody together, do a huddle, get two, 3,000, 5,000 people together and we talk about an issue. And then I put the video up for everybody to see during the day. I'm doing that two to three times a day. A day. And, and bringing on guests as well. And we did a good, I think, analysis of having read the 300 pages of what it showed. So I won't bore you the details here other than to say what's 300 pages long and filled with crap. And that would be the, the Ghislaine Maxwell lies upon lies upon lies and denials upon denials. Not only does she not take responsibility for what she did? She said there was nothing to take responsibility for. Nothing happened. So how do you explain the thousands of victims, including that were girls that were raped at the time by you and Epstein? How do you explain their existence? You can't. It's a, it's a inconvenient fact that she can't, she can't explain away. And. But that transcript was available the night of. I do this for a living. The court reporter will turn that over to you. The night of. That was three weeks ago. They just dropped it two days ago. Yeah, they dropped it two days ago because they didn't like what was coming out of the Oversight Committee in Congress and bad news reports there against the Trump administration with them going after the Epstein files in the Department of Justice and the hearings and all of that. And they needed to step on that story. Hence Ghislaine Maxwell's transcript gets announced. So we're at war. And the way that we're going to win this war is to be together in community, in fellowship, because only together will we be able to defeat the Trump administration and overcome the Trump administration. It's the only way. And Trump knows that. And that's why he tries to tear us apart and put each of us at each other's throats in America because he needs a seething cauldron of people upset with their neighbors in order to succeed as president. He's not the great unifier, he's the great divider. His entire power grab and power network is based on division and the Frisian that's created by that and the energy that is created by that. Right. The heat that no light but heat that is created by that. He needs it to fuel his dictatorial, dictator like conduct. Plain and simple. We are at war. We're going to talk about his, his striking out against the Federal Reserve in a way that even shocked Wall Street. They thought he got off the kick of trying to get rid of Jay Powell. They didn't realize he was going to go after Lisa Cook and try to get rid of her and try to fire her and cause another constitutional crisis. And, and the markets responded. I'm going to cover that. The Abrego Garcia developments, which are all bad for Donald Trump. A couple of other orders that we just got out, including kind of concerning Abrego Garcia, two more losses for the Trump administration, this time by a Trump appointed judge and a Republican appointed judge. I'll do all that when we come back from our first break. But let me just say this, before we take the break, just an honor to be here with you on Tuesday nights at 8pm on the Midas Touch Network on the show called the Intersection. I can't think of a finer group of people for me to spend my time with, to do my work for. I was out today for lunch, got a lunch break, went to a restaurant, local restaurant, and one of the managers there kept kind of looking over at me. I kept looking over at him smiling. I thought he was just welcoming, like a guest. Came over, he said, are you that guy that does that commentary on YouTube? I said, I am. And then he just had this warm embrace, warm handshake. He said, keep it up, man. Keep up what you do. And that fuels in our audience, fuels what we do. I mean, from the time that the brothers get up and I get up, Katie Feng, we all get up in the morning, say goodbye to our families, brush our teeth, start our day. All we're thinking about is the war and defending our democracy and being the first responders with you into the burning building of our democracy and to save it from Donald Trump. That's all literally, I think about all day. And this gentleman was a Canadian of Jamaican descent, living in this country for years and is and is scared. 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I want to cover a number of losses for the Trump administration in the last 48 hours and let me see if I can do it in reverse order. Let's start with the case about Donald. Did you hear the one about Donald Trump suing all 12 federal judges in Maryland to disqualify them because he didn't like the chief judge's rule that he had to keep human beings in America for 48 hours and not send them to the torture prisons abroad while a federal judge provided oversight over whether due process was being properly preserved? Did you hear that one? Well, we've got the ruling. Donald Trump had a number of ways to challenge the Chief judge of Maryland's decision. I call it the Abrego Garcia rule to require that if a writ of habeas corpus petition is filed to get somebody sprung from jail or incarceration and bring them before a federal judge to make sure due process and habeas corpus rights were being preserved. There's a reason that the judge entered a local rule for all judges in Maryland. First of all, Judge Zinnis sits in Maryland. She was already handling the Abrego Garcia case where he got sent illegally to El Salvador where upon arrival he was tortured and then took months to bring him back and even then brought back in a manufactured indictment in Tennessee for human trafficking and thrown back into another hole. So a, pardon me if the chief judge looked at that and said, well, I don't want that to happen again with this Trump administration. So he already had Abrego Garcia. He also obviously had eyes and ears and could read and saw that in the case involving Judge Boasberg in D.C. 200 people not named Abrego Garcia were sent to El Salvador without any due process rights at all. So he said, taking a page from the appeals court, how about this? How about nobody goes anywhere for the first 48 hours while a federal judge determines whether the writ of habeas corpus petition is properly filed and has merit, makes a decision about due process. How about that? And Donald Trump didn't want that. No, no, no. Donald Trump doesn't want that. On a hot take. I did about this a couple earlier today. I used my Willy Wonka Veruca Salt voice. No, Daddy wants it now. They must be removed immediately. No due process. How's that? So, see, I'm a frustrated actor. So Donald Trump, if he didn't like that local rule in federal court issued by a federal judge, Chief judge, there's a way around it. In the 4th Circuit, which sits over Maryland, you file an objection with the Council of the Judicial Counsel for the Fourth Circuit, and they can strike it under a statute, they can strike a local rule if it somehow violates, like, immigration law or some other law. He doesn't do that. He files a motion, a complaint, and a petition to disqualify the entirety of the 12 members of the federal bench in Maryland. Okay. Once you do that, those 12 members can't hear your case because you're challenging them, including Judge zinnis. So the 4th Circuit Chief Judge sends the case to Virginia, and it ends up in the lap of Judge Cullen. You could say he drew the short straw, but he is a Trump appointee for, from, from the first term. But I knew this was not going to go well for the Trump administration because at the oral argument, Colin was like, this sounds like lawlessness. This sounds like a constitutional catch me if you can. How can you possibly, if you don't like the rule, how can you possibly sue to disqualify all 12 members of the bench? It's just not the right way to do it. And now we got the ruling, and Judge Cullen said point blank, a. Because he could have just said, petition dismissed. You know, two lines, be done with it. No, no. He spent 39 pages excoriating the Trump administration in a scorching opinion. But, but very diplomatic. I mean, you know, he's a good writer. He's more of a country club Republican than a maga, the way I'm reading it. But he dropped the footnote early on and he said this is an administration that has unfortunately and wrongfully gone after and attacked members of the federal judiciary, creating an inter branch, you know, the three branches, inter branch conflict in crisis. That's unnecessary. He's called and then he listed it. He's called federal judges, leftists, liberals, criminals, Marxists and the he said, and worse. He also quoted Harvey Wilkerson, the judge from the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, who's very well respected in Republican circles, as saying we can't have, while some friction and tension between the branches is one thing, but we can't have out and out war. Here we go. There's that theme for me today. Out and out warfare waged by the executive branch against the judicial branch. And so the judge dismissed the petition and in doing so, he also said, and you don't, you want me to, you want me to dismiss this petition, Trump, effectively. Cuz if you don't, it's going to open the door to depositions being taken against your Department of Justice, Pam Bondi, against Kristi Noem, Homeland Security, and all the emails and all the information and letter writing correspondence between everybody and your, and your executive branch is going to come flying out and we're going to have a fight over privilege. But is that what you want? If you don't like the rule, the judge reminded him, then take it up with the Fourth Circuit Judicial Council. That's your path. And if you don't like this ruling, the judge says you can appeal it, but I am dismissing your case. And again now, by the way, in the meantime, the judges have been ruling and presiding over Trump cases in the, in Maryland. It hasn't affected that. But if this judge had ruled, oh, you're all disqualified, then we'd have to bring in judges from, from Virginia and other places in the Fourth Circuit to handle these, to handle these matters. And that would be a disastrous. But that's not going to happen because this judge sitting by designation in, in Maryland has just made that ruling. Now Trump's made the appeal already. Who cares? He, I said he's gonna take an appeal. It'll go up to the fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, no friend of Donald Trump. They'll make their ruling and if he doesn't like it, he can try to take it to the US Supreme Court about whether over a rule which I am sure that the majority on Even this Supreme Court is gonna find it's completely appropriate to keep people here in America and not deported and removed away from federal jurisdiction and oversight. And it's very similar what we just watched with this judge from Virginia's presiding over a Maryland case. Very similar to what just happened with Alina Haba. So we'll pick up on that. Right. Alina Haba gets a bad ruling, as does the Trump administration, by a judge, Judge Brann from the Middle District of Pennsylvania, sitting by designation in New Jersey because a criminal defendant brought a motion to disqualify Alina Haba because she wasn't constitutionally and she was unlawfully appointed to the job of U.S. attorney through a backdoor process that violates the Federal Vacancy act and violates the Constitution and the separation of powers and the role of the Senate to confirm a U.S. attorney. And so Judge Brand said, yeah, it's unlegal, it's unlawful. Now he's sitting by designation because 21 judges in New Jersey, one of the biggest districts, how to disqualify themselves because they all voted in unison against Alina harbor getting an extension of time to be the U.S. attorney there. And now she's on her media tour. Has anybody caught that? You know, on Hannity, on this right wing podcast on this one, oh, Donald Trump won and everybody else lost. And I, I've got his full support. And it's a liberal activist judge and Cory Booker and Senator Booker and Kim never even met me. And yet they're blocking my nomination. And all this other, you know, whining. It's just, when did, when did MAGA and Trump become such. And Republicans become such whiners? They're intolerable, insufferable to listen to. Really, they are. But we are at war. But we are. These are the battles that we're winning, which is why I wanted to bring it to your attention. So that's Judge Cullen and about the Maryland case, Judge Brann about the Alina Haba case. And then we also got a great ruling out of Judge Zinnis in the Abrego Garcia case. I just, just, just popped out, really literally just popped out off of Friday and into and into today and off of, actually off of Monday, Monday afternoon. So Abrego Garcia swept off the streets illegally without due process, sent to El Salvador where he's tortured. These are all indisputable facts. He is ordered to return by Judge Zinnis, the Trump administration to bring him back since he had an order of non removal related to El Salvador. Trump administration ignores it lies to federal judges like Zenis, keeps him in the jails of El Salvador where he's tortured. And the Supreme Court rules for Judge Zenis 9:0, as does the 2 4th Circuit Court of Appeals panels. They finally bring him back, but not because of those orders. They're defiant. They bring him back a few months later to Tennessee because they've manufactured charges there on a criminal indictment. The criminal indictment is so weak that a federal magistrate judge, Judge Holmes, on Friday releases him from. From pretrial detention. There's a separate motion to disqualify, motion to dismiss permanently, the indictment for prosecutorial misconduct, including vindictive prosecution. And they added as grounds for vindictive prosecution that the Trump administration is trying to extort Abrego Garcia and his lawyers. They said, don't. You got a release order from Judge Holmes. But stay in. Hear me out. Here's our deal. I'm sure the lawyers, and I know one of them, Sean Hecker, was like, okay, we're all ears. What's the, what's the, what's the proposal? The plea deal. All right, he'll plead guilty to the two counts that are in the indictment. You mean the. I'll just do my own narrative. You mean the indictment that we have a motion to dismiss for vindictive prosecution that's pending with Judge Crenshaw? Yeah, that one. Okay, so we plead guilty to that and then what? We send you to Costa Rica? We send your client to Costa Rica. They're like, no, how about we go through a process? We fight the charges in Tennessee, we fight the removal process, and we see where we end up then. And they said, fine, then you're going to Uganda. I'm not making this up. This is the perverse, depraved nation that we're. That with Donald Trump is leading, that we're at war with. We're at war with the Trump led United States. I guess that's the way to say it. So it ends up in front of Judge Zinnis because no shock when he went to. They called him in for an interview on Monday at ICE in Baltimore, and they took him and they whisked him away into custody. But they, but the lawyers were ready for it. They knew it was a ruse, and so they filed a new petition for writ of habeas corpus. See, we are at war. We're using writs of habeas corpus in front of Judge Zinnis, who held an emergency hearing. And she issued the following order, and I'm barely paraphrasing you, the Department of Justice, you, the United States of America, you are absolutely forbidden to remove him, Abrego Garcia from the United States while I'm working out the petition for writ of habeas corpus and the briefing and the hearing and the evidentiary hearing around that. Do you understand that? And Drew Ensign, who's notorious for lying to ends to Judge Zenith, said yes, it takes a while to send somebody to Uganda, your honor, or some version like that. It was eye poppingly bad comment. She said, well, I don't know about all that, but I'm troubled by the what appears to be the evidence that the, that the United States is trying to get him to forfeit his constitutional rights in exchange for pleading guilty. Or you'll send him to Uganda. That's not a trade that you're allowed to make that abuses our constitutional system. So she's already kind of laid it out where she's going to end up on this particular thing. In the meantime, he's in a rod. Garcia is in a Virginia detention center. Well crafted by his lawyers. He got to have a few minutes to address his supporters, which is now most of America came off as a very honorable and well spoken person for what it's worth, and then was whisked away into custody. So we're going to continue to follow in the briefing schedule that is going to be laid out over the next week or two. And what is the final result related to all of that in the Abrego Garcia case? And then finally another loss for the Trump administration. Brought to you by. Sounds like an ad campaign brought to you by Democracy Forward. I love Democracy Forward. Come over to Legal A F substack. You'll find them on a playlist. That's the public interest group law firm that brings lawsuits against Donald Trump. She has Sky Perryman founded it. Her Group has 80 lawsuits against the Trump administration. Eight zero. And they're all doing great. And we just got a ruling from Judge Ross Lamperth who's also a Republican appointed judge in D.C. where he's about this close to finding the Trump administration and Carrie Lake in contempt and holding a contempt trial over the Voice of America. Remember Voice of America? Yeah. They try to mothball it, take it in the back and shoot it. That's the way that we promoted our brand of democracy around the world. There were many ways we did that. All eliminated by Donald Trump. USAID. USAID. $50 billion. Give it to people say, hey, this isn't democracy. Great. Here, use this for your water treatment plant. Use this for your sewer system. Use this, you know, for your roads and bridges. Think of America. We got rid of that. Now it's China built, Russia built, because we've left a power vacuum and they've stepped into it. So that was usaid, that was an extension of the State Department and humanitarian aid. And then we used media, you know, no crap newspapers and old school media and online media to promote American values so that people understood and would turn themselves towards our democracy and understood our brand of democracy and not the propaganda being promoted by our adversaries. It was a counterweight to the propaganda machine of the North Koreans, the Iranians, the, the Russians and the Chinese. And Donald Trump got rid of it. But Ross Lampert argued and issued an order in April that Voice of America be reinstituted, along with a bunch of other voices of America in different places, including refunded, give the funding back, get the people back, have a plan to get it up and running again. But it hasn't been running again. We're in August. So after getting a report from the plaintiffs, Lamperth called Carrie Lake and her lawyers on the carpet and said, here's a long list of things I want answered on an order to show cause right now. What have you done to comply with the preliminary injunction? How have you restarted Voice of America? How have you refunded it? How have you made it a viable news source again? Tell me all of that. And they did. And the judge took a look at it and said, this is crap. This is not answering my question. So we're going to try one more time. This is the judge in his order. We're going to try one more time. You, Carrie Lake and two others sit for deposition by the 17th of or the 15th of September. These are seven hour long questions and answers under oath. And when you're done, I'll take a look at the transcript and we'll see if you're in compliance or not. But this is the last stop before a contempt trial. See, Donald Trump loses 90% of the time in these kind of courts. And these appeals that he take, like the one I just talked about, the, the one about disqualifying all of the federal judges, are ridiculous. But he's got to act tough. So this is what he does. But remember, we are at war. And so your whole aspect and your whole approach to defending this democracy in this constitutional republic with us has to change, has to change now. And we'll continue to do it right here on the intersection every Tuesday night at 8pm Join me on all things legal aforementioned. I co founded the podcast Legal A F the podcast that's on the Midas Touch Network. 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