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To Attorney General Pam Bondi In a new federal filing to completely undercut everything Donald Trump is telling the public, desperately telling the public to make them stop asking questions about the Epstein files. She just totally undercut his entire political rhetoric because, you know, they had to file it in court to try to get the quote unquote grand jury transcripts. And here's the new revelations based on the filings. I'll break down for you Michael Popo here on the Midas Touch network and legal AF1. She tells a federal judge, Judge Engelmeier in her filing that the public is demanding the release of the Epstein files because it's of great public importance. She also concedes that the great public importance was basically caused by her own two page attempt to close out the case with a closeout memo from July 6th to undated and unsigned. That drove MAGA crazy. And that's the reason there's so much public interest. The more Donald Trump doesn't want public interest, the more the public is interested. So that's the first thing that undercuts the argument of Donald Trump. Remember, he always says it's boring details. You know, child sex trafficking charges against two of his best friends are boring details. Nothing to see here. You must be from a failing paper. Isn't there better things to cover? You know, all those things he says as he's trying to golf with the Secret Service, dropping his ball into each hole as he's trying to golf in Scotland to get away from the Epstein scandal that continues to follow him because he says stupid confessions out loud. Like, I'm mad at Epstein because he stole my young girls from the spa. And now we've got the filing. I got it right here in my hand. And the second revelation that completely undercuts their argument that the grand jury transcripts represent all of the Epstein files. And. And we're trying to get them for you. Right? Like some sort of transparency is the fact that they have to admit in their filings to Judge Engelmeier in New York that there's nothing in the. In the grand jury filings he's handling. There's two judges in New York. One of them is Engelmeier. He deals with everything related to Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell, because he took over from another judge named Nathan. There's another judge, Judge Berman. He has been the Epstein grand jury and other judge since the beginning. They both issued orders saying, we're not ready to release the grand jury materials. Tell us why you need it. File a brief, give us a proposal. Talk to Maxwell, and let's talk to the victims, and we'll come together next week and figure it out. Okay. Another judge in Florida, Judge Rosenberg, has already rejected getting the grand jury materials out of Florida. There was an Epstein grand jury in Florida. That was Judge Rosenberg. Here's the other undercut by Pam Bondi. Why, why, why is she undercutting Donald Trump's entire argument? Because it's not true. Because when they finally have to put pen to paper and file it in federal court, they got to sort of tell the truth. I mean, this. I mean, they start with a lie. When you look at the. When you look at what they have filed on the front cover of what they have filed, here it is. We'll blow it up. But it's side by side. It says this brief is being filed by Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche and Jay Clayton. And under Jay Clayton, they say he's the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He's not. He's the interim U.S. attorney. Acting interim U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Because he hasn't been confirmed. And what's his claim to fame? Who are all these people? They're all best friends of Donald Trump. Jay Clayton was Donald Trump's securities and Exchange Commission chair back in the first term and is a golfing buddy of Donald Trump. Trust me, he's a golfing buddy of Donald Trump's. Pam Bundy and Todd Blanch, former impeachment and criminal Defense lawyers for Donald Trump. So that's who's filing these briefs. So, you know, they're close to Trump, they're buddies, and that's their client. So then why do they have to reveal that there's nothing in the grand jury materials? Did you hear me right? Remember when they said they want to redefine the Epstein files as the grand jury material? The witness statements, the testimony, whatever's in the box. That for them is the grandeur, is the Epstein files. Of course, we know better, and we're demanding more. The Epstein files are not just the grand jury. There's nothing in the grand jury, which they've now admitted. It's the truckload of documents, Pam Bondi's terms, that were searched and scoured for hours by FBI agents in March and April so she could report to Donald Trump that his names, as he knew, were all over the Epstein files. It's that. It's the gigabytes of information. It's the search warrant results for Epstein and Maxwell and others. It's the victim statements. It's the financial records of the. Of the payments from Epstein and Maxwell to the victims. It is all. It is the flight records. It is video, it is audio. It is photographs. It's the results of what was in Jeffrey Epstein's safe. I feel like I'm doing Al Capone safe with Geraldo Rivera. What was in the safe? It's that. That's the Epstein files. Okay. And they admit that there's nothing in the grand jury materials. In fact, they tell the court that there is effectively only two witnesses. You heard me right. Two total witnesses who testified before two separate grand juries. That's it. And they were both law enforcement. All they were were what we call in the business summary witnesses who were just summarizing the evidence. And so these witnesses were an FBI agent who testified in both Epstein and Maxwell grand juries, and a New York detective who worked on a joint task force with the feds who worked in human trafficking. That was it. Two witnesses in the Maxwell grand jury, the FBI and the cop. One witness in the Epstein grand jury, the FBI agent. That's it. In fact, when they went for the judge and asked the judges to release the files, they didn't even ask to release the exhibits. Those are the documents, the evidence that was used in front of the grand jury. They never even. They didn't even ask for. They don't want that out. They want to. So redefine in your mind what the Epstein file is that you'll forget about it. But you're not going to because you're on the Midas Touch Network and we do hourly reports. This episode of Legal AF is brought to you by Moink Box. Did you know four companies control over 80% of the US meat industry and that the largest share of US pork is now controlled by China? 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I'll read you. I'll read it to you. It says, effectively, I just read your filing today. This, this government's rationale for the grand jury, which I'm going to read to you in a moment. And it says, but you don't ask me squarely for the documents and the evidence. So if you want that, and I can't tell, tell me that by Monday. Now, here's what the. Here's how bam Bondi completely screws Donald Trump in a number of ways. It says on page four, top of page four, that why in section three, why disclosure is being sought in this case. Here's what they say. As described above, there is undoubtedly a clearly expressed interest from the public in Jeffrey Epstein's and Ghislaine Maxwell's crimes. Beyond that, there is an abundant public interest in the investigative work conducted by the Department of Justice and the FBI into those crimes. Okay, let's stop right there. First of all, the public interest is in the files more than the crimes. And secondly, I wouldn't call what Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are doing investigations into those crimes or investigative work. But I will admit, I will concede to Pam Bondi that she has created a lot of interest that Donald Trump is trying to ignore. She goes on to say, attention given on page five, attention given to the Epstein and Maxwell cases has recently intensified, intensified. And in the wake of the July 6, 2025 memorandum announcing the conclusions of the government's review into the investigation. So she admits that her two page memo, unsigned and undated, I'll put it up here, where she said that Epstein wasn't murdered and there is no witness list, cleaned up and closed out the investigation, ignoring the truckload of documents right behind her. Right. Your memo fueled the flames. And Donald Trump trying to put them out is only blowing up in his face, especially when he says confessional things out loud. Like the reason I broke up with my BFF Epstein, a sexual predator and pedophile, which I may not have known of the time, but I didn't like the fact he was poaching young girls from my spa at Mar? A Lago, like Virginia Giuffre, who committed suicide in April, by the way. Now, when you put all that together, this is the explanation as to why we want the full and complete Epstein files. The Senate is demanding it. They put together the rule of Five ancient law on the books for Congress that allows five people on a committee that's responsible for oversight of a particular issue to demand records. It's like their subpoena power. Even if the chairman of that oversight committee, who's a Republican, won't sign it, it's the Gang of Seven or the Rule of Seven in the House. And they're considering doing that too, led by Jamie Raskin. So you got Chuck Schumer and Jamie Raskin and the rest of the senators and congresspeople for the Democrats, all trying to hold Donald Trump accountable as Congress goes into recess. Now they got a problem because they want to be in, they want to be out of town. But then if they are out of town too long, they'll give Donald Trump recess power to appoint dozens and dozens of Cabinet members and U.S. attorneys and ambassadors and other federal officers. I'm not sure they want that. So there's that other tension that's going on. But I love the fact in her filing she undercuts that and just cuts the leg. Like the sawing sound Donald Trump is hearing is Pam Bondi as he's on a. He's on this long limb being sought out from behind him. One, she admits there's nothing to see in the files, that the civil cases brought by the victims have revealed all their testimony. The criminal case against Maxwell revealed all their testimony. There's nothing new to see. There's only two witnesses and they're not even seeking the documents anyway. So there's nothing in the quote, unquote, Epstein files that Donald Trump's trying to convince the public he's so diligently trying to release. And her other argument is the public demands the Epstein files. We agree. Pam Bondi, release all of the Epstein files, put them up on a website, the wall of receipts related to Epstein and let everybody take a look. Just like you wanted to do with the Jan6 closed circuit TV videotape of the attack on the Capitol for everybody to make a revelation, everybody to make their own conclusion. Here we go. People like their own facts will give them their own facts. They can render their own conclusions. So that's where we are right now. That's the filing. There's going to be more filings on Monday. You know where to follow it? Legal AF Here on the Midas Dutch Network, the podcast I co founded with Ben Mysalis five years ago, we sit at that intersection of law, politics. 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Legal AF by MeidasTouch: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Trump AG Accidentally Exposes Him in Epstein Filing
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Hosts: Ben Meiselas, Michael Popok, Karen Friedman Agnifilo
Executive Producer: Meidas Media Network
In this episode of Legal AF (Legal Analysis Friends), hosted by Michael Popok of the MeidasTouch Network, the discussion delves into a recent federal filing by Attorney General Pam Bondi concerning former President Donald Trump's involvement in the Jeffrey Epstein case. The episode critically analyzes how Bondi's actions inadvertently undermine Trump's public defenses against the Epstein scandal.
Timestamp: [01:10]
Michael Popok begins by addressing Bondi's new federal filing, which appears to contradict Trump's public statements aimed at deflecting scrutiny over his connections to Jeffrey Epstein. Popok states:
"She just totally undercut his entire political rhetoric because, you know, they had to file it in court to try to get the quote unquote grand jury transcripts."
This admission by Bondi reveals inconsistencies in the Trump administration's stance, particularly Trump's portrayal of the Epstein files as unimportant or irrelevant.
Timestamp: [03:45]
Bondi's filing emphasizes the significant public interest in the Epstein case files. Popok highlights:
"The public is demanding the release of the Epstein files because it's of great public importance" ([03:50]).
However, Bondi admits that this heightened interest stems from her own efforts to close the case prematurely with a brief, undated memo, which ironically fueled the very public curiosity she aimed to quell.
Timestamp: [06:20]
A critical point raised in the filing is the misconception that grand jury transcripts encompass all pertinent Epstein materials. Bondi clarifies to Judge Engelmeier:
"There's nothing in the grand jury filings he's handling."
Popok underscores this by explaining that Bondi and her colleagues are not seeking the actual grand jury documents but are instead limiting the scope to minimal witness testimonies, thereby restricting access to the comprehensive Epstein dossier.
Timestamp: [09:15]
Popok scrutinizes the legitimacy of the filing by pointing out discrepancies in the credentials of the United States Attorney referenced:
"Jay Clayton is listed as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He's not. He's the interim U.S. attorney... a golfing buddy of Donald Trump's."
This revelation suggests potential biases in the handling of the case, as key figures involved are closely connected to Trump, undermining the objectivity expected in legal proceedings.
Timestamp: [12:00]
Popok elaborates on what constitutes the "Epstein files," emphasizing that they extend far beyond grand jury testimonies:
"It's the gigabytes of information. It's the search warrant results for Epstein and Maxwell and others. It's the victim statements. It's the financial records... It's all the flight records, video, audio, photographs... It's the results of what was in Jeffrey Epstein's safe."
This comprehensive collection of evidence remains largely undisclosed, raising questions about transparency and accountability.
Timestamp: [13:30]
The episode concludes by discussing the broader political implications of Bondi's filing. Popok notes that while Democrats in Congress, led by figures like Jamie Raskin and Chuck Schumer, push for greater accountability and access to the Epstein materials, Bondi's actions inadvertently provide ammunition for Trump’s defense:
"There's nothing in the quote, unquote, Epstein files that Donald Trump's trying to convince the public he's so diligently trying to release."
This dynamic illustrates the ongoing tension between the Trump administration and congressional oversight committees, especially as Congress navigates the recess period and the potential for executive appointments.
Michael Popok effectively dissects the recent legal maneuvers by Attorney General Pam Bondi, demonstrating how they inadvertently bolster public skepticism towards the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein case. By revealing the limitations and potential biases in the filing, Popok underscores the need for comprehensive transparency to uphold democratic accountability.
Notable Quotes:
Michael Popok: "Pam Bondi's two-page memo fueled the flames, and Donald Trump trying to put them out is only blowing up in his face." ([07:15])
Michael Popok: "There is nothing in the quote, unquote, Epstein files that Donald Trump's trying to convince the public he's so diligently trying to release." ([13:50])
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