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Episode: Trump DOJ Makes Shock Confession About ‘Missing’ Files

Date: January 7, 2026
Hosts: Michael Popok, Ben Meiselas, Karen Friedman Agnifilo (not present in this transcript)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Michael Popok and Ben Meiselas dissect a bombshell development regarding the Department of Justice's (DOJ) handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files under the Trump administration. The DOJ surprised observers by reducing the claimed number of Epstein-related documents pending review from 5.2 million to 2 million without explanation, raising concerns about transparency and possible attempts at concealment. The hosts critique the DOJ's shifting narrative, underscore the bipartisan congressional frustration, and advocate for legal and legislative accountability.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. DOJ's Unexplained Reduction of Document Count

[00:00–03:00]

• Breaking News: DOJ recently filed a letter with federal Judge Engelmeier stating that, three weeks past the congressional deadline, it reduced the number of Epstein documents under review from 5.2 million to 2 million—over 3 million documents essentially vanished from consideration with no rationale given.
• Scope of Review: The "2 million documents" may actually equate to 20–50 million pages, illustrating the immense scale of the review.
• Critical Perspective: Popok calls out the DOJ's opacity:

  “Where did the 3 million go? What was the protocol used to determine that 3 million or 3.2 million documents no longer have to be reviewed?... This is opaqueness.”
  — Michael Popok [02:05]

2. Confusing and Contradictory Numbers

[02:05–04:35]

• Timeline of Numbers:
  • Initial release: Only 12,000 documents shared—“0.06% of the total pile.”
  • Reference found to 1 million pages at the Southern District of New York not yet reviewed; soon after, DOJ claims 5.2 million documents are pending.
  • DOJ then reverts to 2 million without explanation.
• Demand for Clarity:

  “Why don't you explain, at least in a footnote, so the American people understand the math?”
  — Michael Popok [03:35]

3. Questionable DOJ Work Claims

[04:35–05:53]

• Staffing Narrative: DOJ says 400 lawyers are working “most of a day” on the review. Popok counters this, citing reports of only “three to four hours a day” being encouraged with bonuses, not full workdays.

  “Who works three to four hours a day? So that's already a lie. On top of where is the missing 3.2 million?”
  — Michael Popok [05:38]

4. Congressional Pressure and Oversight

[05:53–09:45]

• Call to Action: Popok emphasizes the need for Congressional inquiry, mentioning Rep. Tom Massie (R) and Rep. Ro Khanna (D) as key figures pressing for answers.
• Questions for Oversight:

  “Where did the 3.2 million documents go? How do you know it’s just this 2 million? What have you done? Where have you searched?”
  — Michael Popok [06:32]

• Broader Scope: Reviews should include IRS, Postal Services, Donald Trump’s personal documents and communications—areas possibly untouched so far.
• Freedom of Information Act: Federal Judge Chutkin is presiding over efforts to make communications between Epstein and Trump public.

5. Bipartisan Congressional Frustration: Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

[07:47–09:45]

• Rep. Ro Khanna (D) with Rep. Tom Massie (R):

  “The quickest and I think most expeditious way to get justice for these victims is to bring inherent contempt against Pam Bondi.”
  — Ro Khanna [08:07]

• Checking DOJ Authority: Khanna and Massie advocate using inherent contempt powers in the House, bypassing slower, court-based options.
• Victims’ Perspective:

  “One of the survivors said they released her name accidentally, but they still have not released the FBI file about the people who abused her at her request.”
  — Ro Khanna [09:07]

• Systemic Issues Identified:

  “There are 1200 victims. There are rich and powerful people who either engaged in this abuse, covered it up, or were on this island. And what the American people want to know is: who are these people?”
  — Ro Khanna [09:18] “Instead of holding them accountable, Pam Bondi is breaking the law. And, and this is the corrupt system, the Epstein class, that people are sick of.”
  — Ro Khanna [09:33]

6. Legal Action and FOIA Advocacy

[09:45–10:47]

• Michael Popok’s Push: Legal AF is pushing for lawsuits—congressional, public interest, FOIA—against DOJ for answers about missing Epstein documents.
• Activism Connection: Announces upcoming appearance by Sky Perryman of Democracy Forward, urging an update to FOIA lawsuits based on DOJ’s changing numbers.

Important Timestamps

• [00:00–02:30] – Introduction to the DOJ’s unexplained document count change
• [02:30–05:00] – Scrutiny of DOJ’s transparency and production math
• [05:00–06:45] – Staffing representation disputes; DOJ’s review process questioned
• [06:45–09:45] – Congressional scrutiny with Ro Khanna and Tom Massie’s comments
• [09:45–10:47] – Push for lawsuits and upcoming FOIA advocacy

Notable Quotes (with Speaker Attribution and Timestamps)

• Michael Popok:

  "This is opaqueness... Why don't you explain, at least in a footnote, so the American people understand the math?" [02:05–03:35]

  "Who works three to four hours a day? So that's already a lie. On top of where is the missing 3.2 million?" [05:38]

• Ro Khanna (via audio clip):

  "The quickest and I think most expeditious way to get justice for these victims is to bring inherent contempt against Pam Bondi." [08:07]

  "There are rich and powerful people who either engaged in this abuse, covered it up, or were on this island. And what the American people want to know is: who are these people?" [09:18]

  "And this is the corrupt system, the Epstein class, that people are sick of." [09:33]

Tone, Language, and Style

The hosts blend sharp legal critique, investigative journalism, and advocacy, using pointed language that reflects both frustration and urgency. They challenge the DOJ’s narrative, emphasize the need for sunlight, and underscore the bipartisan anger and demand for transparency.

Conclusion

This episode of Legal AF exemplifies the show’s commitment to dissecting the blurred boundary between law and politics. With over 3 million Epstein-related files "missing" from DOJ review and a candid roundtable of legal and governmental voices, the episode both lays bare government obfuscation and rallies listeners to demand greater transparency and accountability—especially when the powerful are implicated.

Recommended for:
Anyone interested in government accountability, legal process, and the high-stakes world of political law enforcement. This summary delivers the critical details and emotional intensity that make Legal AF a must-listen in the legal podcast sphere.