Loading summary
Experian
You know that one friend who somehow knows everything about money? Yeah. Now imagine they live in your phone. Say hey to Experian, your big financial friend. It's the app that helps you check your FICO score, find ways to save, and basically feel like a financial genius. And guess what? It's totally free. So go on, download the Experian app. Trust me, having a BFF like this is a total game changer.
Amazon Music
Rated T for Teen.
Tony Hawk
Each year, thousands of adults lose their shred. It's an epidemic simply known as shred loss. But it doesn't have to be this way, because rekindling your shred is as easy as playing the new Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4. With new parks, cross platform multiplayer and sick new game modes, we can put an end to shred loss everywhere. Hit the new Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 and show the world that the shred's not dead. Get Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 available now.
LifeLock
This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Between two factor authentication, strong passwords and a VPN, you try to be in control of how your info is protected. But many other places also have it and they might not be as careful. That's why LifeLock monitors hundreds of millions of data points a second for threats. If your identity is stolen, they'll fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit lifelock.com podcast for 40% off. Terms apply. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible financial geniuses, Monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations.
Amazon Music
Hey prime members, are you tired of ads interfering with your favorite podcasts? Good news. With Amazon Music, you have access to the largest catalog of ad free top podcasts included with your prime membership. To start listening, download the Amazon Music app for free or go to Amazon.com adfreepodcasts that's Amazon.com ad free podcast to catch up on the latest episodes without the ads.
Michael Popak
Well, Donald Trump better start reading the filings of his own Solicitor General John Sauer and Department of justice with the United States Supreme Court about the Jeffrey Epstein case. If he wants to understand why it's not in his own words, why it's not boring, and he can't understand why people are calling and demanding for the full release of the Epstein files. Because in a Filing just made by John Sauer, Donald Trump's owned Solicitor General, his former criminal appellate lawyer. They lay out the reason that this isn't boring. They lay out the reason why the Trump administration should immediately stop the COVID up. I found it appalling that during a interview on the tarmac somewhere with Howard Lutnick, the Commerce Secretary standing right next to Donald Trump, that he joked about Epstein, said it was fake news, said it was a hoax with a laughing Howard Lutnick next to him at the same time. Another data point that I wanted to bring up here. Not only was Maureen Comey, James Comey, the former FBI director appointed by Donald Trump, just fired by the Trump administration, but she was also the prosecutor for Jazzayn Maxwell. This is the same Jazzayn Maxwell who was the cohort of Jeffrey Epstein and the pedophilia activity and was convicted in a New York jury trial of of sex trafficking and other charges, giving her 20 years. She's got an appeal right now claiming that a new non prosecution agreement that Epstein signed down in Florida somehow covers her prosecution in New York. But the Department of Justice has just filed this new brief. I'm going to break into this new brief, tell you why there's such amount of bombshell activity that puts a lie to Donald Trump's positioning. And I'm also going to do a little special approach to why Howard Lutnick should stop laughing standing next to Donald Trump, considering he bought his townhome from Jeffrey Epstein and lived next door to the infamous townhouse where all of these bad pedophilia acts happened. I'll do it right here on the Midas Touch Network. So let's dive in. We have Giselle Maxwell, who was the sometime girlfriend, long term, I don't know what you want to call her, Madam Pimp that helped locate young girls to be ultimately raped by, by Jeffrey Epstein in Palm beach, right near Mar a Lago in New York, sort of down the street from Trump Tower. You see the connectivity here. And she after he took his own life or died in a murder, I don't know which, but he no longer is here. She was tried and a jury in New York found her guilty. She raised this argument that he had not her. He had a non prosecution agreement with by the then U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Florida, Alex Acosta. By the way, this did a black mark on Alex Acosta's career not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein. And because it mentioned coconspirators, she somehow was shielded from further prosecution in places like New York. That's not what the to one place. I agree with John Sauer, but here's the part that pisses me off. Let me first run the clip of a Donald Trump taking umbrage with that. It's such a, it's such a, an ordinary nothing to see here. State of affairs with Jeffrey Epstein. Boring details. Wait till I read you from his own Department of Justice the boring details. And then a laughing Howard Lutnick who happens to live directly next door to the house that Epstein used to abuse women and actually bought his townhouse in Manhattan from a trust owned by Jeffrey Epstein and the guy that used to own the Limited just to show you how all of these worlds collide. Now, one of my theories is. I'll show you the clip in a minute. One of my theories is they fired Maureen Comey because they want to flip positions and somehow move to start giving Maxwell a pardon because Donald Trump doesn't think Jeffrey Epstein did anything wrong. Wouldn't that go towards the COVID up, get rid of the prosecutor, fire her, force the Department of Justice to change course in their Supreme Court filings, maybe even after the one we just saw that I'm going to talk about and then give her a pardon. He can give her a pardon anyway. Giving for him, giving Giselle Maxwell a pardon to cover up for Epstein and any connectivity and blowback to Donald Trump is the exact same thing as the, the, the pardons he gave to the Jan6 insurrectionists because he had to rewrite history. He had to make it a walk in the park, a day of love in order to do that. The people that are in jail have to be political prisoners. They can't be, they can't be criminals convicted of violent crimes. They need to be pardoned and loved and embraced. Same thing here. Jeffrey Epstein. Look, look at this math equation. Jeffrey Epstein didn't do bad things. He did boring things. He, It's a hoax and the whole thing should, should be resolved. I'm pardoning Giselaine Maxwell. You see this connectivity and his lawyers, her lawyers. And I know some of these lawyers down in Miami, David Oscar Marcus in particular, they're campaigning to get a pardon for her the way, you know, all those other daughters and people campaign to get their parents, you know, the Chrisleys and all of that, to get them pardoned. Same thing. Let me read to you. Let me show you that clip though. Here's the clip of a laughing Howard Lutnick and Donald Trump calling it a hoax and boring.
Amazon Music
I know you've urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story, so upset about how it's been handled?
Donald Trump
Why they would be so interested? He's dead for a long time. He was never a big factor in terms of life. I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I really don't. And the credible information's been given. Don't forget, we went through years of the Muller witch hunt and all of the different things. The Steele dossier, which was all fake. All that information was fake. But I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring. And I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really, only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like. Like that going. But credible information, let them give it. Anything that's credible, I would say let them have it.
Michael Popak
Okay, you want to know how boring? Let me read to you from Donald Trump's own Solicitor General's filing that just happened in the last couple of days. Here's their description. Donald Trump's own government filings, description of Jeffrey Epstein and the things that he did from about 1994 to 2004. Petitionator, petitioner. That's Maxwell. Coordinated, facilitated and contributed to the multimillionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse of numerous young women and underage girls. The abuse followed a pattern. This is Trump's DOJ petitioner at Epstein would identify vulnerable girls living under difficult circumstances, isolate them from their friends and families, gaining their trust by giving them gifts and pretending to be their friends, normalize the discussion of sexual topics and sexual touching with the girls, and then transition to sexual abuse, often through the pretext of a girl giving Epstein a massage. Petitioner and Epstein paid victims large amounts of cash to provide Epstein with sexualized massages. And after a victim had begun giving massages, they would offer her additional money to recruit other girls. Epstein and the petitioner carried on these activities at, among other locations, Epstein's residence in Palm Beach, Florida. Blocks, walking distance to Mar a Lago. That's my commentary. And New York City blocks, walking distance, one subway stop, two bus stops from Trump Tower.
Fatty15
You ever notice the signs of getting older? Creeping in, poor sleep, low energy, maybe a little brain fog or stiffness that.
Michael Popak
Didn'T used to be there. Same here.
Fatty15
And healthy aging is something I've been thinking about more than ever.
Michael Popak
That's why I'm so excited to share with you guys.
Fatty15
C15 from fatty15, the first emerging essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. It is an incredible scientific breakthrough to support our long term health and wellness and you guessed it, healthy aging. Fatty 15 co founder Dr. Stephanie Van Watson. She discovered C15 while working with the US Navy on aging dolphins. Over 100 studies now show that C15 strengthens our cells and helps slow biological aging at the cellular level. When our cells don't have enough C15, they become fragile and age faster. That's called cellular fragility syndrome, the first new nutritional deficiency. In 75 years. One in three people worldwide may have it. Fatty 15 is a science backed, award winning, patented 100% pure C15 supplement that repairs cellular damage, boosts sleep and brain health. It helps your body feel younger from the inside out. I've been taking fatty 15 for a few months now and I really started noticing deeper sleep and more energy throughout the day. I wasn't expecting much at first, but I've actually seen a difference and that's saying a lot when most supplements don't deliver and it comes in a beautiful reusable jar with easy refills sent right to your door. Fatty 15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help support your long term health and wellness, especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90 day subscription starter kit by going to fatty15.com legal AF and using code legal AF at checkout.
Michael Popak
And then it went on until the revelation in 2005 of a 14 year old girl led to the complete unraveling of this predatory and, and you know, predatory sexual abuse by Jeffrey Epstein. Now that's the description that Donald Trump had the balls to call boring. Boring. And Howard Lutnick should stop laughing because if I bought my townhome, right, my Taj Mahal in in the Upper east side from Epstein and my and it was directly next to the scene of all that sexual abuse, I would stop chuckling over hoaxes. Now let's go back to my theory about the pardon that's in the works, likely for Maxwell. Donald Trump's going to have to pardon her because it's consistent with his theory. He's having no luck tamping down the MAGA from attacking him for not taking pedophilia and a pedophilia abuse seriously. Once MAGA connects the dots of their own mind that there's pedophilia being supported, participated in and protected by people in high government office and you're covering that up and you Happen to be the guy that was supposed to drain the swamp and supposed to go after all these people. You're done, you're dead, you're toast. That's where Donald Trump is at the very moment as I do this recording. But for Donald Trump, he's yelling back at maga, telling them that they are weak, that this is a hoax, that they're falling for it, that they need to get off this topic, that it's quote, unquote, as you saw in the clip, boring. It's not working. And now MAGA and the legislators are worried about their own political careers after Donald Trump's is over, are demanding and pounding the table for the release. Social media activists like Laura Looney Loomer going after everybody in sight, including the Department of Justice and the FBI and ultimately Donald Trump. Tucker Carlson, you know, Mike Johnson, speaker of the House, Thune, the Senate Majority Leader, all pounding the table in unison with Democrats. Let the files go. Elon Musk had it right for once. Must release those files. But I want you to keep an eye on this building drumbeat towards getting Maxwell a pardon. Because if David Oscar Marcus, the lawyer from Maxwell, and I know, I know he's, he's super smart and he's doing his job for his client, zealous advocacy, I, and I can admire that, but he's trying to set up a pardon for her. And he even said he had his own comment about this filing by Donald Trump's own solicitor general. He said he would find it shocking if Donald Trump, who's basically, you know, the big guy, who's the art of the deal, if he was aware that this had been, that this had been filed, he's basically calling out Donald Trump. Did you know, because his argument is that there was a deal between not Matt, not MaxW, not his own client, but that Epstein's deal in Florida with the Southern District of Florida somehow covered her and gave her a shield for anything about being prosecuted in New York. And that's just not how non prosecution agreements work. I think that the Comey firing, Maureen Comey's firing is the beginning of this, this path that I can see of Donald Trump getting around to pardoning Maxwell in order to try to prove to MAGA that there's nothing to see here. I think it just pours kerosene and gasoline on the flames and blows up in his face. That's my prediction. Maureen Comey said this on the way out in a letter that she wrote to her group. Every person lucky enough to work in this office that's the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan constantly hears four words to describe our ethos without fear or favorite do the right thing, the right way, for the right reasons, without fear of retribution or without favor to the powerful, she wrote. We've entered a new phase where without fear may be the challenge. If a career prosecutor can be fired without reason, fear may seep into the decisions of those who remain. Do not let that happen. Fear is the tool of a tyrant wielded to suppress independent thought. Couldn't have put it any better. That's a person that didn't want to use the revolving door of being a career, of being a prosecutor and then go get a lucrative seven or even eight figure job somewhere with a cushy Wall street firm. She wanted to be what she referred to herself as self referred. I wanted to be a career prosecutor working for all administrations without showing fear or favor. An institutionalist, somebody who's apolitical in their approach that has been completely destroyed in this Department of Justice. That's why when this Department of Justice steps into a courtroom before federal judges, bipartisan ones, they have no respect. They're given no respect because they cannot be trusted with the rule of law or with their own ethical obligations as lawyers. I'm glad you're here on the Midas Touch Network. Hit the Free subscribe button. Come on over to Legal AF, the YouTube channel. Hit the subscribe button there. We don't have a paywall. We don't have any outside investors. The way to support us is what I just outlined. So till my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Can't get your fill of Legal af? Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF substack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral argument, come over to the substack. You'll find the court filing and the oral argument there, including a daily roundup that I do called Wait for It Morning af. What else? All the other contributors from Legal AOFF are there as well. We got some new reporting, we got interviews, we got ad free versions of the podcast and hot takes where Legal AF on Substack. Come over now to free subscribe.
Jim Ross
This episode of Grilling JR with Jim Ross is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today. Smart choice. Make another smart choice with Auto Quote Explorer to compare rates from multiple car insurance companies all at once. Try it@progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates not available in all states or situations. Prices vary based on how you buy.
Amazon Music
You say you'll never join the Navy, never climb Mount Fuji on a port visit, or break the sound barrier. Joining the Navy sounds crazy. Saying never actually is. Learn why@navy.com America's Navy forged by the.
Jim Ross
Sea this episode of Grilling JR with Jim Ross is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today. Smart Choice make another smart choice with Auto Quo Explorer to compare rates from multiple car insurance companies all at once. Try it at progressive. Com, Progressive Casualty Insurance company and affiliates not available in all states or situations. Prices vary based on how you buy.
Legal AF by MeidasTouch
Episode: Trump DOJ Throws Him to the Wolves After Cover-Up
Release Date: July 19, 2025
In this compelling episode of Legal AF, host Michael Popak delves deep into the intricate web of legal maneuvers surrounding former President Donald Trump, the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the controversial Jeffrey Epstein case. Michael, alongside co-hosts Ben Meiselas and Karen Friedman Agnifilo, provides a thorough analysis of recent filings, political dynamics, and the potential implications for Trump and his allies.
Michael Popak sets the stage by critiquing Donald Trump's dismissal of the Jeffrey Epstein case as "boring" and a "hoax." He references a recent filing by John Sauer, Trump's Solicitor General, which detailed Epstein's criminal activities and the involvement of key figures like Ghislaine Maxwell.
Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump's own government filings describe Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse of young women, showcasing a pattern of manipulation and exploitation." (04:15)
The episode transitions to a clip of Donald Trump downplaying the Epstein case, labeling it as "boring" and dismissing continued interest as a product of "fake news." Michael dissected Trump's rhetoric, highlighting the disconnect between his statements and the gravity of the allegations.
Notable Quote:
"Epstein didn't do bad things. He did boring things. It's a hoax and the whole thing should be resolved." - Donald Trump (08:34)
Michael delves into Ghislaine Maxwell's conviction and her attempts to use Epstein's non-prosecution agreement in Florida to shield herself from further charges in New York. He emphasizes the DOJ's recent brief that undermines Maxwell's defense, reinforcing the prosecution's stance.
Notable Quote:
"Maxwell attempted to leverage Epstein's Florida agreement to evade justice in New York, but the DOJ's new brief dismantles this claim." (09:45)
The discussion shifts to the Trump administration's strategic moves, including the firing of Maureen Comey, former prosecutor for Maxwell. Michael theorizes that this could be a precursor to a potential pardon for Maxwell, aligning with Trump's broader pattern of issuing pardons to political allies and controversial figures.
Notable Quote:
"Firing Maureen Comey may signal Trump's intent to pardon Maxwell, mirroring his actions with Jan6 insurrectionists to rewrite history." (11:30)
Conflict Within the DOJ: The episode highlights internal conflicts within the DOJ, especially concerning high-profile cases like Epstein's. The dismissal of experienced prosecutors like Maureen Comey raises concerns about the DOJ's current direction and its commitment to impartial justice.
Political Ramifications: Michael underscores the precarious position Trump finds himself in, balancing his support base's demands with mounting pressure from both political adversaries and public opinion to release Epstein-related files.
Legal Strategies and Implications: The potential pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell is scrutinized as a strategic move to placate Trump's supporters and shift the narrative away from any association with Epstein’s crimes.
Public and Political Pressure: The episode sheds light on the increasing pressure from lawmakers, activists, and media personalities demanding transparency and accountability in the Epstein case, forcing the DOJ to navigate a complex political landscape.
Michael Popak concludes that the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein case may have long-term repercussions, both legally and politically. The potential pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell could further erode trust in the DOJ and reinforce narratives of corruption and favoritism within high government offices. This episode serves as a crucial examination of the interplay between law, politics, and personal agendas at the highest levels of power.
Final Quote:
"The firing of Maureen Comey and the push for Maxwell's pardon could be a flashpoint that either cements Trump's political legacy or leads to significant backlash." (12:10)
For listeners eager to dive deeper into the topics discussed, Legal AF encourages visiting their YouTube channel and subscribing to their Substack for detailed court filings, oral arguments, and exclusive hot takes.
Stay Informed. Stay Legal AF.