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Well, I'll say one thing for the Department of Justice under Todd Blanche. When they screw up, they screw up big time. When a federal judge, Judge Brincama in the eastern district of Virginia said prove to me that the anti weaponization fund is really dead, don't do it outside the courtroom. Do it inside the courtroom under penalties of perjury with a sworn declaration, let's get all the parties to the agreement that created that settlement fund and tell me that it's dead. And if it is, you'll never see me again. I'll dismiss the case. Challeng the Jan6 fund. Instead of taking her up on that offer, what did they do? They filed something of their own creation. The Department of justice filed a notice declining, not only saying, we're not gonna file declarations under oath, we'll never file declarations under oath. But you can't make us either. And it should be good enough for you. Judge. Judge Brinkoma, senior status judge in the eastern district of Virginia. It should be good enough for you that Tom Blanche said something like that in a congressional hearing. And that should be good because if he lied, then it's a. It's an 18 United States Code 1001 violation for lying to congress. And then you also have the power under Rule 11 of the Federal rules of civil procedure. Um, and so you shouldn't have to worry about trusting the Department of Justice. Well, we have the new order by judge Brinkoma. She's read the notice and as expected, she's not happy the case is not being dismissed. She said, in its essence, I don't trust Todd Blanche when he's not under oath. I'll Read to you from it in a minute. And that's not the way courts work and evidence works. And in addition to it, I'm gonna keep the case alive because you seem to be very reluctant to get rid of this fund because on one hand, the Trump administration says, oh, we're not going forward with the fund. On the other hand, they're saying, we like the fund. We wish we could go forward with it. And this kind of last minute dismissal of an action or cessation of an action to try to avoid judicial scrutiny, you can't do that. There's actually a doctrine that says you can't just stop the thing that you've been sued about, hoping that the judge will go away. I'm Michael Popak. We're not going away. We're on Midas. Touch it on Legal af. Let's get to the case. It's styled Andrew Floyd versus the Department of Justice. It is a ruling. It is a case that was brought by our friends at Democracy Forward, including Sky Perryman. And this is the order from Judge Brinkama that just came out. She's read the notice and she's not happy. We'll post the notice. The order for you on legal af. Substack. Let me read it to you now. On June 12, the judge writes, defendants were offered the opportunity to end this litigation by filing written declarations under penalties of perjury. That's sworn statements affirming what they represented to the public, to the House Appropriations Subcommittee, our judicial colleagues and this court that you said it. Now I want you to say it under oath, namely that they will not take any action to create or operate the Anti Weaponization Fund. That the fund will not proceed in any manner under any other name while the court is considering the case. Instead of filing those declarations, defendants have filed a notice declining to provide such assurances under the penalty of perjury, saying that they're unnecessary. Here's the quote from Todd Blanche that they want to rely on to tell the judge. See, he said it out loud somewhere. Isn't that good enough for you? Play the clip.
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We're not moving forward with the anti weaponization fund.
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Is the $1.8 billion DOJ fund dead or is it on hold?
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It's. I'd have to ask the lawyers that are. Now, look, we're not moving forward with the fund. The weaponization fund, as far as I'm concerned, was a beautiful thing. The reasons for the fund, I think, were, were, remain as important as they were before, but we are not moving forward with the fund. We had a lawsuit that against us on the, you know, on the weaponization where the judge, a radical left judge, ruled against him, and we'll see how that all works out. We are not moving forward with the fun period.
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She goes on to say, look, you're telling me that he was under a penalty of perjury because he swore. He swore in for that, and therefore you should take him at face value. That's not good enough in a court of law, and that's not good enough under the Article 3 powers of a court. But then she goes further. She says on page three that the defendants, the Department of Justice and Blanche have refused to accord a genuine degree of trustworthiness to their representations about the fund. Not going forward is particularly concerning because of the President's consistent support for the fund and Acting Attorney General Blanche's acknowledgment that the fund remains important. She then goes on to remind Blanche that he doesn't like to put anything in writing. In fact, I've already done videos and analysis that they would rather lose a case for the Department of Justice, lose a case on vindictive prosecution, lose a case about indictments, lose a case about grand jury misconduct and prosecutorial misconduct and abuse of prosecutor power that have Tom Blanche testify ever. The only time you're going to see him testify ever again, I think, is when he shows up in the Senate to be for a confirmation hearing and when he has to appear before oversight committees. That's it. So she says. She calls that out. She says, although Acting Attorney General Blanch reiterated several times during his testimony that the fund was not going forward, when asked whether he would issue a new memo in writing rescinding that May 18 memo, he replied, I'm not committing to putting anything in writing. And I said it over and over again. As the court explained, a civil suit does not necessarily become mute moot when the defendants agree to stop the conduct in the litigation under the voluntary cessation exception, a party should not be able to evade judicial review or defeat a judgment by just temporarily halting some questionable behavior. You know, and the reluctance that they show, she says on page four, the fact that defendants are making a reluctant decision suggest a desire to return to their old ways if the court is not looking. She therefore concludes on the record before this court on page four, Judge Brinkoma says, the President and the acting Attorney General Blanche's continued interest in compensating alleged victims of alleged government weaponization, the defendant's unwillingness to provide declarations under the penalty of Perjury and acting Attorney General Blanche's refusal to rescind his memoir, which set up the structure for the fund, all support the conclusion that this civil action is not moot. Answer it by the end of July. Now, this goes hand in glove with another case that's going on in Miami in front of Judge Williams. She's trying to. This could be the silver bullet. She's trying to figure out whether the entire settlement agreement lawsuit that started, the settlement agreement that Todd Blanche entered into, along with the Treasury Department and the irs, whether that whole thing was a fraud on the court and therefore should be tossed as illegitimate and illegal, that'll kill the fund. But we're still waiting to see what Judge Williams does next. Likely an evidentiary hearing about, you know, these issues, you know, and to get to the bottom of it, which means Todd Blanche is going to have another opportunity not to testify, apparently, in a very weird way. We're gonna follow it all. In fact, I just interviewed the local counsel in Miami in that case about Todd Blanche's testimony and whether we'll ever see it. Here's a clip. What do you think Judge Williams does next? I mean, she's got a new brief that just came in, 23 Democratic attorneys general. As people on this show know, I've been to there. I've interviewed every one of the Democratic attorneys general. I've been to two of their conferences and done panels with them. So I know the group very, very well. I was not surprised that they lobbed in that brief as well. Does she have. Well, I don't want to put you in a position where you have to reveal strategy. Do you think there's going to be an evidentiary hearing or hearing in the case?
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Well, look, first of all, I expect her. I expect that she'll act relatively soon. It was just our papers were filed on Friday. You point out other very important papers have been filed. I expect we'll hear from Judge Williams relatively soon. Frankly, on the briefing done by the other side, I as really in the way that you've addressed it, Michael, they have not answered the questions. And I think the judge has. Is going to want to hear answers to those questions. And the natural way to get answers is in evidence. Your ear.
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Episode: Trump Torched by Judge for Refusing Oath
Date: June 25, 2026
Hosts: Michael Popok (MeidasTouch Network), special guest/local counsel
Main Theme:
A federal judge excoriates the Department of Justice and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche for refusing to submit sworn declarations under penalty of perjury regarding the fate of the controversial Anti-Weaponization Fund—a development with significant implications for ongoing legal scrutiny of the Trump administration’s attempt to sidestep judicial review.
This episode zeroes in on a consequential legal standoff in the Eastern District of Virginia: Judge Brinkema’s demand that the Department of Justice, and specifically Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, clarify under oath whether the $1.8 billion "Anti-Weaponization Fund" is truly dead. With the DOJ refusing, the judge’s latest order keeps the case (Andrew Floyd v. DOJ) alive. Michael Popok gives a detailed walk-through of the court’s logic, Blanche’s evasiveness, and how this drama connects to related legal threads—primarily the Miami case before Judge Williams, which may expose further Trump-era legal maneuvering.
DOJ’s Refusal to Swear Under Oath:
The Department of Justice was asked to submit sworn statements confirming the Anti-Weaponization Fund would not proceed. Instead, DOJ filed a notice stating they would not—and pointed to prior public statements as sufficient assurance.
Judicial Skepticism and Demand for Accountability:
Judge Brinkema’s order, read on-air by Popok, underscores her distrust in non-sworn verbal assurances, especially given Trump administration officials’ history of equivocation.
“She's not happy... She said, in its essence, I don't trust Todd Blanche when he's not under oath.”
— Michael Popok [03:40]
Fundamental Principle:
The court insists that “that’s not the way courts work and evidence works”—a direct rebuke to Blanche and DOJ’s attempt to bypass judicial standards.
Legal Doctrine of Voluntary Cessation:
Popok explains the legal rule preventing defendants from escaping court scrutiny simply by temporarily halting contested behavior.
“A civil suit does not necessarily become moot when the defendants agree to stop the conduct in the litigation under the voluntary cessation exception, a party should not be able to evade judicial review or defeat a judgment by just temporarily halting some questionable behavior.”
— Michael Popok, paraphrasing Judge Brinkema [05:54]
Signature Quote Played and Paraphrased:
“We are not moving forward with the anti weaponization fund...The weaponization fund, as far as I'm concerned, was a beautiful thing...but we are not moving forward with the fund...period.”
— Todd Blanche, Congressional Hearing [04:32–05:15]
Judge’s Response:
Brinkema finds these statements insufficient without actual sworn, written declarations. She highlights Blanche’s repeated refusal to rescind a key memo or to put any of his promises into writing.
Larger Implication:
The episode captures the tension between politically convenient statements and judicially required proof, setting a precedent for future executive branch accountability.
Potential Silver Bullet in Miami:
Popok discusses a related Miami case presided over by Judge Williams, questioning whether the DOJ/Trump settlement that originated the fund was a “fraud on the court.” A finding to that effect could nullify the fund entirely.
Expectation of Further Hearings:
Guest counsel suggests Judge Williams will likely convene an evidentiary hearing due to unanswered questions—a move likely to (again) challenge whether Blanche will testify.
“I think the judge...is going to want to hear answers to those questions. And the natural way to get answers is in evidence...” — Local Counsel, Miami (guest) [09:24–09:54]
National Engagement:
Popok notes his broad contacts with Democratic Attorneys General, highlighting the political and legal stakes.
Popok’s On-Point Critique:
Popok does not hold back, asserting Blanche and DOJ have a pattern of stonewalling and prefer “to lose a case” than ever have Blanche sworn in court:
“They would rather lose a case for the Department of Justice...than have Tom Blanche testify ever.”
— Michael Popok [05:45]
Legal Reasoning in Plain English:
The hosts break down complex doctrines (e.g., voluntary cessation) and procedural nuances, making them accessible for a lay audience while preserving the legal gravity.
On the Judge’s Skepticism Toward Blanche (paraphrasing the order):
“The defendant's unwillingness to provide declarations under penalty of perjury...all support the conclusion that this civil action is not moot.”
— Michael Popok, reading from Judge Brinkema [06:15]
On DOJ Strategy:
“When they screw up, they screw up big time.”
— Michael Popok [01:00]
On Future Testimony:
“The only time you're going to see [Blanche] testify ever again, I think, is when he shows up in the Senate...and before oversight committees. That's it.”
— Michael Popok [05:30]
This episode drills into how a federal judge demands real, written accountability from the DOJ and exposes the limits of political grandstanding when confronted by judicial authority. With related cases pending and mounting pressure for sworn testimony, the fate of the fund and the standards for future executive branch conduct remain in flux.
For ongoing updates, hosts encourage listeners to subscribe to Legal AF on YouTube and Substack.