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Michael Popak
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Michael Popak
to be so morose, but there probably was no happier person on planet Earth when Lindsey Graham suddenly died than FBI Director Cash Patel. The beleaguered Patel looking for anything to get him out of the headlines. He was supposed to report to the White House for a tongue lashing and probably worse, called in, likely by Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, and Stephen Miller. But then Lindsey Graham died and instead, Kesh Patel decided to try to steal some valor and put himself in the story by saying that he would send the FBI to go investigate Lindsey Graham's aortic dissection. The fact that his aorta failed. That's an FBI investigation where that's this Cash Patel trying to stay in the news and stay close to a story. We cover Cash Patel's FBI scandals and what's happening at the White House on Legal af, the podcast. And here is a clip.
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Co-host or Legal AF commentator
A regime that's deeply an embarrassing regime from the outset. So there's already a humiliation ritual going place. You know, he checks the corruption box that the Trump regime likes. He checks the incompetence box that the Trump regime likes. The only thing that may be working against him is that when he's flying around in the jets and with the girlfriend and doing all that stuff, that may make Trump a little bit kind of not jealous of it, but he's like, you know, you're, you know, you got to be here suffering with me over here in the White House while I think Iran's trying to kill me, you know, and so popak as my dogs are barking like crazy. What do you make of it all?
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Michael Popak
Well, you know, Cash Patel has a habit. You said that Donald Trump was born with a golden, the golden foot in his mouth or whatever it is. Kash Patel also has complete tin ear when it comes to things that he can say out loud. Forgetting that he's no longer a right wing podcaster shilling products with cash k a dollar sign h on them. But it's supposed to be one of the leaders of our intelligence community and the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He's not supposed to be trying to get laid, trying to curry favor with his girlfriend or show, like you said, travel around the country instead of doing his job domestically and otherwise and going to sporting events and, and purchasing, having a fleet of BMWs purchased for him and using the company jet, which is the, which is, you know, the jets related to the administration for his personal use. And he's now lost the shoes, the shoes that are dropping now include Chuck Grassley, who was one of his biggest defenders in the Senate. But now he's opened up an investigation demanding to know how Cash Patel is spending taxpayer dollars on trips, on travel, on sporting events, BMWs, planes and the like. You know, when you take a, when you take an administration plane, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars an hour to fly, you know. And the response from Ash Patel's office is he's reimbursed it. I doubt he's reimbursed it to the, to the liking of Grassley. And when you get grounded, personally grounded by the White House and by the people within the White House, and I can only think of a couple, Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller. When they say insiders within the White House have required him, demanded his appearance at the White House, it's Susie Wiles and likely Stephen Miller. He's being called on the carpet here. And it didn't help that in response to reporting about him having a golden jet ski, his defense to that was that he posted on social media, it's a gold plated jet Ski, you dumb ass. That is while the American people are suffering under the Trump economy and are trying to figure out how to make ends meet or to even have ends to meet, to have FBI directors say, come on, man, come on, bruh, it's, it's gold plated like this. This is not, this is back to the ten year moment. And the question is, you know, when I was a kid there, you probably played it too. It's a very analog game. It was a series of small plastic ice cubes that were in Iraq and you had a little baby mallet, a little hammer, and there was a thing on top and you just would, you would have to knock one of those cubes down and hope the whole thing wouldn't collapse. And after a while, you'd be the one or somebody, your friend would be the one to hit that last cube and the entire ice flow would collapse, right? Because you're on thin ice. How many cubes have to fall under Cash Patel for him finally to get, get fired? Kristi Noem should have been the wakeup call for Cash Patel and her, her embarrassment that came to town. And she was doing very similar things, right? She was playing, according to reporting, she was playing footsie with Corey Lewandowski on Homeland Security Gulf Streams that were outfitted, including, you know, one, one compartment of it, which is supposed to be the kind of the, the private living quarters was like a master bedroom that Corey and Christie would disappear into. And those the drum beat of those stories. Even before Christy Gnomes hub husband had some sort of weird fetish that ended up leading to divorce. Catch Patel's got the same problem. And using the FBI to go after members of the media who leak about him and his drinking, for instance, and public intoxication or leak about his using the company dime, you know, our money to support him squiring around with his girlfriend and then going after the press and opening up investigations about it has been a very, very bad look even for the Trump administration. And I think the point you were making is that what's okay for Trump is not okay for people that are not named Donald Trump. There's things that sometimes there's this conflation. I've seen it in organizations where people who work for the top apex predator that runs the company suddenly believe they are the apex predator and they find out very, very quickly that there's only one top dog and there's only one person. So I've been in organizations which I will not name where people have suddenly thought they are the Donald Trump of the organization and started acting and mimicking their spending or their, their attack on the media or the press or their social media posting. And that wears out your welcome pretty quickly. Even though we're 18, 19 months in this administration with somebody like Donald Trump and his ego. So him getting reined in. Even Pam Bondi didn't get called on the carpet. I'll tell you who did. Tulsi Gabbard got called on the carpet last September about her. Sorry. Last February 28th was the bombing Iran was. Yes, last September after the bombs on the nuclear, nuclear capacity of, of Iran the first time when she was busy talking about how bombing is a terrible thing, it can allude to nuclear holocaust. She got called on the carpet and Tulsi Gabbard is no longer with us. Kristi Noemi got called to the White House after things went really awry with her testimony before the House and the Senate on back to back days about no bid contracts for her $250 million ad campaign. Much of the money went to friends of hers and she got fired. So the ones that get called into the White House normally have a very short half life. If I were to guess cash Patel does not make it. We just passed 4th of July, does not make it to Labor Day. I'm not even sure he makes it. I want to hear your opinion on this. I'm not even sure he makes it in like through the month of July. On that particular, because there's nothing he can do to fix it. Like being told to shut the up. Sorry is one thing. And, and you know, some people were able to accomplish that. Like, we hear a lot less from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He's still doing terrible things to American's public health, but we hear about it less, you know, Mark Wayne Mullen, you know, other than his, his centered appearances, house appearances, we're not seeing him out the way that Christy Gnome did. Do you think he's going to be able to survive like RFK Jr or do you think he's going out the door like Tulsi Gabbert?
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Co-host or Legal AF commentator
And no, he's going to survive because he's a man and Trump fires women and he can tolerate the corruption in the men. And I, you know, I believe it's as simple as that. Kristi Noem Bondi, Chavez Darimer. Right, the big high profile firings. But don't get me wrong there, they are very bad, awful people. Are they worse than Lutnick? Kash Patel, RFK Hegseth. Hey, I mean, exit. I mean, come on. You know, the reality is, is Bondi, frankly, makes Blanche, I mean, you know, Blanche makes Bondi look, you know, somewhat ethical. Right? And that's, it's a horrible thing to say because she was horrific. But Bondi, but, but Blanche is a severely worse version of Bondi in terms of corruption and incompetence, all kind of, you know, you know, built into one. And so the reality is, is that, you know, Patel. Oh, the, the other reason too is Patel seen the Epstein files and you can arguably say that, you know, Bondi has also, and so will Bondi, you know, whatever. But I think that Trump fears that someone like a Patel will go out and say what he saw in the files more than a Bondi. And I think he thinks he can control. So that's my, that's my overall view of that. And I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you a data point as well. You know, the White House, Stephen Chung and others have come out and said, nah, you know, I mean, I think Cash Patel posted something, you know, really kind of heinous and absurd, which, what else is new where he, oh, yeah, oh yeah. In response to the Ms. Now article saying Kash Patel can't count on Trump's protection forever. And Cash Patel goes, nah, nah, bruh, nah, bruh. My jet ski is gold plated, dumbass. Your job is to lie. Mine's to protect The American people and business is good. I mean, this is the FBI director saying that. But then the White House account. Fake news at its finest. Nobody was frustrated. In fact, we'll start boosting and promoting his earlier tweet. More. Congrats, Mississippi. Now you all just played yourself, dumbasses. And again, this is the White House. This is the White House. This isn't Love Island. This is, this isn't frat house. This isn't Love Island. This isn't, you know, Apprentice meets Kardashian, you know, whatever. This is the White, you know, and again, you know, my dogs were barking earlier because my wife just got home with my mother in law and our little baby, you know, and I mean, this is, this is, you know, I, this isn't me speaking as Democrat, independent political guy. Like, come on, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? And what I loved about the law, what I loved about practicing law, what I loved about being in courts and in depositions, you know, was I viewed it as an honorable profession. And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of lawyers who don't behave honorably, but this is how I viewed it. Where I could, you know, pursue truth and fight for things that I believe were justice and play by rules and fairly and ethically and morally, and those are the things that were more important. And so when I see, you know, Cash Patel going, dumbass, my FBI director, my jet ski is gold plated, bro. What do. What are you, what are you doing? What is that? Why is it the FBI director? And then the White House goes, yeah, dumb asses, we're going to retweet that shit more. I'm like, okay. I'm like, come on. You know, and then, and then you wonder why we get involved into catastrophic wars. There's other reasons too. And then have no plan and lose. And then keep their negotiating negotiation. We'll keep bombing. But they desperately want a deal.
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Legal AF Substack Promoter
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Michael Popak
We sit at the intersection of law and politics. So you don't have to. We do it every Wednesday and Saturday at 8pm Eastern Time on the Midas Touch network. You're here on Legal AF YouTube channel. Take a minute, hit the free subscribe button. As we continue to grow our pro democracy channel. Until my next report, I'm Michael Popak.
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