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The following podcast is a Dr. Media production. This is, let's be honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Cause I got all the power.
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Yep. Is this thing on?
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Hello?
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Is this thing on? You know what that's from?
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What is that from?
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Is this thing on?
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Oh, Britney Spears. Of course. I know. Wait, can we just really quickly not to, like, we're not going to get into this whole thing, but the Epstein file is called Britney Spears a clone. Okay. And I just want everyone to know I told you.
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Did it really see that? No, you need to.
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How did you miss that? I had so many DMs of people being like, you were right.
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How?
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You're like all over this.
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I'm all over. But I didn't see the Britney thing.
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You're gonna have to look.
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There's a lot. Well, whatever. It's probably true. But I feel like they're putting so many weird things in there to throw people off. It's like. No, there's a lot of really stupid stuff in there.
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Like, some of it's fake. You mean?
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Yeah, on purpose to get people confused and to get people talking about the conspiracy stuff when we need to focus on the men who actually did stuff. Wait, this is so bad. And I honestly feel like it could, like, really mess things up in the world.
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Wait, I never even thought.
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Because people are getting so distracted with all the, like, random things. Right? But I mean.
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Right? So my new thing is I'm like, Selena Gomez is a clone.
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Yeah, See? So you focus on all of those things. And by the way, if they are clones, okay, let's out them or whatever. But I'm like, that's not my focus right now.
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Right.
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I want to take down, like, pedophiles, disgusting people. Yeah. Like, I don't care if Selena Gomez isn't a real person. She's not, though. That's not her.
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Okay, Now I'm back on tick tock, right? I was off for six months. I'm back. Now I'm seeing all this stuff again. There was one video I saw of, like, of her doing an interview from, I don't know, let's say 2015 every year. And, like, the evolution of how she's become like this. And you're like, I'm sorry, that's. She used to be bubbly and alive and had big personality.
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So the point of getting a clone is so that they can continue to make money off of her forever, and then they.
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They comply with whatever agenda, you know they want.
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Ooh, the agenda work.
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Okay, but that is not what this is about. As much as we would love to do more conspiracy theories.
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Yeah, we. I don't ever want to get into that again. Oh, I love it. Love it too. But I don't like to do it on a public platform.
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I know.
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Because also people get insane about some of this stuff. I'm open to anything. I don't need to be the end all. Be all, but like, some stuff. I like to dig a little deeper and be like, what is the. What is the reason? Like, why are you making Britney a clone? You know, and people get really fired up about Britney. I just think secretly I want to hope that she's just safe. Blah, blah, blah, whatever. That's. That.
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Look at her teeth. Okay. Anyways.
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But she can be whatever you guys want to be. The teeth. Well, she doesn't wear a retainer anymore and they had her on lithium for 10 years.
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Okay, fine. That's not it. Your teeth don't change that dramatically. Anywho. Anywho. It's nice to have you back on the couch.
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Oh, it's so wonderful to be here. We.
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I figured it's been a minute since you were here and so we miss you. All of us. I speak for everyone who listens to this podcast. Everybody misses you.
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Oh, that means the world to me.
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It's true. And life's just been boring, right? Like the last few months, we haven't done a whole lot. I haven't been traveling usually. I always travel. I did just go to LA for the first time in months. And I remember one time on the podcast you were like, every time you go to la, like you have stories and you get a date and like life just starts moving. Right. So I did have a pretty jam packed long weekend and I figured I'd just fill you in.
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Yeah. And she kind of saved it for the pod so that I can react in real time. I mean, you told me like little things, but I was like, don't tell me too much. Cause I want to like hear it on the podcast.
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I know. So we're just gonna run through my. I guess I was there for three days. Okay, so we'll. I'm gonna glaze over a few things. Oh, well, actually, no. Okay, so first, so let me back up. I've known I was gonna go to LA this particular weekend, which was Valentine's Day weekend. I knew I was gonna be There for probably close to two months. Because it was based around an uncommon James photo shoot, we did our spring summer campaign. Okay. So I knew I was shooting that Friday, and I just was like, I'll stay in LA for Valentine's Day. There's nothing here for me. The kids were with their dad. Okay. So. So I was gonna hang out with my friend Sophie, who she runs the Aloe Gym in la, so she knows everybody.
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She's so hot.
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She's gorgeous. She's like, so your kind of girl.
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I love. I'd be like, I would. Yeah, I would love her. I did a little stalking on social media.
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You guys would love each other. She's actually moving to New York, so she'll be a good one for us to know in New York. Anywho. So she. We always knew that the two of us were gonna go to dinner, have a night, but that was sort of the extent of it. Okay, so I'm on the plane. It's Thursday morning. And by the way, I went Thursday. Well, obviously, I had to go the day before, but filmed a podcast with Lauren Conrad.
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Right. When you got there, immediately.
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I literally landed, got straight into hair and makeup, and went and filmed with Lauren. And it was so good. And I can't wait for you guys to hear that. Did a little teaser that'll come out.
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And just the two of you.
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Just the two of us.
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And you guys go deep.
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Yeah, I mean, I think. Yeah, we talked about a lot. A lot that I don't think she's talked about publicly. So I'm excited for that. A lot of, like, reality, early 2000s. Like, just the impact.
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I love this. I love the two of you coming together.
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Said it. The world is healing.
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Yeah, it is absolutely healing.
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It's healing. Okay, so stay tuned for that. Okay. But on the plane, you guys, my flight was like 7am Sophie's texting me, and she's like, I have a party for us if we want Saturday night. Okay, I'm down. I'll do whatever. So she sends me this link that you have to click to request an rsvp. And she's like, put my name in. You know, you'll get accepted. So. So I'm like, okay, so you have to download a specific app for. Just for the rsvp.
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I wouldn't go. This is so gay already.
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Luckily, I was sitting on a plane. I had nothing else to do.
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All your homework.
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This is fun. So, okay, I download this app. This app thinks it's Raya. It's so secretive. It's like Fort Knox getting in.
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And you know what that would immediately tell me is that everyone's a dork. That's going to. I know. No one cool is going to do an application process to go to a party. Excuse me. You're a nerd.
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You are not wrong, Justin. You're not.
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It was bad, right?
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Hold on.
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Sorry.
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Why wouldn't. Well, okay. I have different. What are. What's a descriptive word?
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Adjective.
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Adjective. Thank you. I almost said adverb. I have different adjectives to describe it. Wow. I. Really sad.
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Oh, my God.
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Too much. My brain is mush. So, okay, so I download the app and. And the dress code says, wear white if you're single, pink if you're heartbroken, black if you're horny, nude if you're slutty. And in my head, I'm like, I have black leather pants and a nude top.
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Wait, so what is that combination, slutty and horny? And that's real, though.
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That's real.
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You knew. It was a manifestation. You packed the right outfit. That again, though. That specifically. That's a nasty party. That's a dirty party.
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Like, I was like, what the fuck? So I.
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Who needs to know who's horny at the party? So.
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So I try to screenshot it. No, no, I get blocked. You cannot screenshot.
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Yes.
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It's like, by the way, at least on Raya, if you screenshot it, you get that. Screenshot this. Nope. Blank picture. Fort Knox, I'm telling you. So I'm like, what is this party? Where am I going? Part of me is, like, really excited, and part of me is like, what the fuck Am I about to get
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myself into the cabal? I know.
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Sweat content.
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What was it labeled down at the bottom? Who did it say sponsored the party? Jeffrey Epstein and friends. Sick.
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Oh, my God. Okay. So I'm like, this is happening. I'm gonna be a slutty. A slutty, horny chick running around. But okay, so that's that. So I do the podcast with Lauren. That's great then. By the way, I did a spray tan. Do you ever do spray tans?
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I used to, and I love them. But you've always been so anti spray tans. I've talked to you about this. I do the ones where you rub it on at home. I love self tan. Yeah. The problem is, is when it fades. I don't care what anyone says, how good it is when it starts to fade. Like, I also. I'm like, such a clean freak when I start looking, like, dirty. Like, you see those little spot? Yours looks good, though.
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It won. It's kind of faded, but. So I've. I never have done that. I did. I'm on Dancing with the Stars a thousand years ago, but I've done it. This was my third time doing one, and I've done them for shoots that's always been for a specific reason. And I.
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The shade that they did is really good.
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Well, and I got to tell you, like, it does make you feel good, especially in the dead of winter.
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Yeah.
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I was like, no, I'm into this, but okay. So this is my third time ever doing one. The first time, she gave me these little teeny, tiny underwear, right? And it's like a little. Little string, and I'm like, okay, this is normal. Second time I did one, actually, in Nashville, same thing. I wore a little disposable underwear. Okay. So this time I was like, do you have the little underwear? And she was like, oh. I was telling her about my slutty Valentine's Day party on Saturday. She was like, well, what if you have sex? I was like, in my head, like, that doesn't happen with me, but okay. I was like, no, you're right. All right. She's like, so don't wear the underwear.
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So what does that mean? Is she gonna spray your clue?
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Justin, I'm butt naked. I'm butt naked and facing her, and then she goes, okay, squat.
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No, she's pr.
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In my vagina.
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No. Why?
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I've never felt so vulnerable in my life.
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You were violated. I know.
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And then I turn around, and she has me squat again for the butthole.
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No, it wasn't like, in my butthole. Kristen, do you know that I. I wouldn't even do that myself. Spread my butt cheeks and put self tanner down there.
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I'm standing naked in front of her like this, squatting, just labia owl.
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Oh, my God.
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It just spilled my water all over me. Oh, I'm just so excited. Okay, so. But I'll tell you what.
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I don't think that anyone needs to have a tan pussy, though. Like, there's no point to that. It's like, when does the sun see it? You're not laying out with your coochie or, like, your legs spread outside. Like, I like a tan line. I like when certain areas are a lighter color.
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I agree.
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You get to contour and shade.
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I've. It was. It was an intense experience. I'm not gonna lie. I like having tan lines on my boobs, even.
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Yeah, I love tan lines. I think tan lines Are so sexy.
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I know. I think it's sexy.
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Scoot does a lot of self tanning. He will net. He'll always keep the tan lines and stuff. One time I was putting it on for him and I started going over his butt cheeks and he, like, got so upset. He's like, I don't want my butt
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to be a little white booty.
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Yeah, I know.
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Because it is. It's sexy. Yeah, it's like, oh, you're not supposed to be seen.
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And it makes sense, you know, like,
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yeah, my labia were tan. Oh, my labia were this color. Okay. So I did that. We had our uncommon jam shoot. It was amazing. It looked like we were shooting in Italy. We rented this awesome villa.
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So that place looked incredible.
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It was incredible. In Palos Vertes, it was this. Did I say that right?
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Palace Verdes. Verdes palace is Spanish. Palace Verdes is beautiful.
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Beautiful. I had never been.
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Well, it's so cool because you can't really get there easily. Like, you have to get off the freeway and then drive way out to the point I loved. I went to parties there in high school.
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Because that was close to where you were, right?
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Yeah.
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Because you were Pasadena.
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Pasadena. But so Palos Verdes was kind of like the beach. Like when you go straight off the beach.
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Oh, God.
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Like, we went to like, high school parties and stuff there. It's a fun area. Beautiful.
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Beautiful. Yeah. I had never been, so that was really fun. Okay, so anyways. Okay, so Saturday now is Valentine's Day. And this is the night of the big party. Right.
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So you do the shoot on Saturday, Friday. So Lauren, Thursday, Friday, shoot, it was busy.
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Well, and then I took my team to Nobu and Malibu after the shoot Friday. So. Yeah, it was non stop. Well.
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And Saturday was running on fumes.
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Got my hair done. Like, it was that every time I go to LA because I try to make my trips as short as possible. It's just like boom, boom, boom.
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But it kind of works there. Like, you get in the groove of LA and just do so much stuff. Like, it gives you an energy you don't have.
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I'm gonna sit on my couch and watch tv.
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I would be on your couch watching tv. Absolutely.
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Actually, I did watch Tell Me Lies.
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Did you watch Love Story yet?
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No. No. I need to.
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You have to watch it.
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I need to. I need to. Did you watch the finale to Tell Me Lies, by the way?
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So you want to know something? This season's pissing me off. I can't.
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I didn't watch the Finale.
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I didn't watch. No, no, I didn't watch. But I can't stand how Lucy's letting that dickhead walk all over. I can't stand Steven at all. Like, he makes me angry. I want to throw something at the tv. So I stopped after episode three. I'll go back and watch all of it. But I was just, like, not in the mood. I mean, you know my thing. Like, I'm super protective of girls, and I hate when girls, like the stuff he was doing to her at the beginning of the season. I would murder him.
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Murder.
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Like, as a friend or a brother, I would murder him. So I'm like, I can't watch this stuff. It was making. I'm angry right now.
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I know.
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It makes me angry.
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Those really toxic relationships I love did
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the rest of the season kind of chill.
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I still have the finale. I mean, no, that show is definitely fudge up, but she wises up a little bit.
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I will say I needed that.
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I think you should keep watching it also. It's not that many episodes, really. No, the finale has already aired.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Okay, cool. Okay.
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I'll get back into it.
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Okay, great. Okay. Xanax and watch it. So our plans sort of shifted, right? So again, Sophie knows everybody. So we ended up going to an athlete's house. I'm going to be very careful about saying. I'm not going to say a lot of names, because I will. I don't know.
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I just feel like, no, no, don't say names. It's not worth it.
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I don't want to be like that girl, right? Then everyone.
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People will be like, it looks dorky.
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You can't come in.
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The thing that's so crazy is you want to say it just because it's part of the story, right? But then at the same time, it's like those dorks who, like, will just pop into the podcast. She's a name dropper, right?
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She's saying it to stay relevant.
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But then also, you being, like, sitting here being like, I can't say it. Then they'd be like, oh, she thinks she's too cool to say the name. So you can't win.
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I can't win.
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You can't win, bro. So just do what you want.
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You know, I think probably out of respect, respect for these people. I won't say their names because I think if someone was like, and then I went to Kristen Cavallari's house for a pre game, I'd be like, the bro.
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Yeah, that would bother you. You know what I'm saying it would bother me. Yeah. Because it's kind of like they're, what, trying to use your name for a story.
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Right.
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Makes sense.
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So I totally can appreciate that. Okay. But anyways, we did. We went to an athlete's house. You guys would definitely know who he is. Okay, so it's Sophie and I, Jocelyn, who works for me, she stayed. And then this male athlete and this
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male, I think, Serena Williams.
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So you guys to know I'm hanging out with males. Look, I'm soaking wet from my water, by the way. Yeah, I looked like I peed in my pants, but I didn't, so. Okay. And then later. Tie dye. Then later, a model came who was beautiful.
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Female or male?
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Male. Or sorry. Female. This one was female. And then a male, another male, and that was our crew for the night. Okay, so from there, then the other
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male, the big deal.
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No, no. Okay, so this he. This guy has grown up in la, and he's, like, an LA staple, but, like, he's not famous, okay? He just knows everybody. I think he helps put on events and stuff. So then our little crew, we go to. I will say this, the owner of Raising Cane's house, Todd. Raising Canes is chicken. Yeah.
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Fried chicken.
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Fried chicken. Who's, by the way, one of the nicest men I've ever met in my entire life. Loaded.
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He owns all of them.
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So by the way, he bought Sam Nazarian's old house. Did I tell you this yet?
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You did tell me.
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I did tell you this.
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Have you told them what? Your connection to Sam Nazarian.
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Okay, the people.
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Yeah, our friends here.
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Our friends.
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They're listening. This isn't just you and I. Sam
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Nazarian used to be an LA staple. He owned sbe, which owned Katsuya, Katsuya Hyde, all of the big restaurants and clubs. What are you laughing?
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I'm just laughing because that was, like, your time.
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This was my.
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You were like, Mrs. Sbe.
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Mrs. Sbe. And so I was at this house all the time. So when we. I wasn't paying attention. We're in a car, like, chatting, blah, blah, blah. We pull up, and I'm like, is this Sam Nazarian's house? I was like, I feel like I'm in 2006. It was such a trip to walk back in that house and be like, that's gone.
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Whoa. That little part of L. A, though, and, like, that street in particular, everyone just recycles the home.
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It's, like, so true.
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So, like, Keanu Reeves lives right there. Leonardo had A house there. Toby Maguire.
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Yeah. They've been there forever.
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Yeah, but. But everyone just moves those houses around.
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Keanu was there. I'd go knock on his door. I just rewatched Point Break.
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Oh, he was so cute.
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He was so cute.
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I loved the way he talked.
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He was everything.
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I love when people, like, a little
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bit stupid, like, a little dumb. So we're there. There is an actor already there. Now I'm not. Name names. And then another actor came, and I'm telling you, it was like 2006. I was like, where the hell am I? This is such a trip. Okay, so then from there, we're like, what are we doing? Where we.
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Big actors, by the way, like, two of the biggest actors ever. And I wish you could tell stories because it's so funny, but that's for another day.
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I know.
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Or a book.
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And you know what? Honestly, if the one wasn't nice, you would have.
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I probably would have. But they were nice, and it's.
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They were nice, and that would. People would really get riled up about that. So.
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But I did like, that he came in and immediately remembered you said hello. Like, that's.
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It's been probably 18 to 20 years since I've.
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Because there's a thing that people do in LA so much where they play, like. Like they don't know. I love when somebody's just like, oh, my God, great to see you. It's been so long. Also, I do that a lot when I don't really know if I know the person well.
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Right.
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I do it all the time. Like, oh, good to see you. You know, like, we've met before, right?
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Well, to one of the actors, I said, it's nice to see you.
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He's a dick.
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He. The little one?
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Yeah, he's a dick.
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Yeah. And he was, like, kind of looked at me, and then I saw him, like, look, I think he honestly was trying to figure it out, though. But, like, I've met him before. But then the bigger deal, it's always like, the people who think they're bigger than they are have this ego, and they have to be like, put you in your place. But the other guy was great. Yeah, great. Anyways. Anyways, okay. So then from there, those two actors did not come out with us. They had big nights the night before. So now we've added Todd, owner of Raising Canes, to our crew.
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Great guy.
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Great guy.
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Love him.
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And we go to this. It was literally called Slutty Valentine's Day Party. Okay. So we get there and it is probably the craziest security I've ever seen. For a party or an event, there is security just to get through the gate. And then, by the way, you need a QR code to get through the gate. And then once you get through the gate, there's a checkpoint where you have to check in, see that your name's on the list. And then they put a sticker over your phone.
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Okay, everyone needs to calm down.
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Over your camera.
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And also, you know where my mind would go? They're trying to trap me in. That's not for safety. People getting. I would immediately be like, they're trying to keep me in this party because. I'm sorry. You could go to Ellen DeGeneres's house for a party. I mean, who would want to do that? But you'd go to. And there's, like, one person out front. Like, no one's breaking into a party. So I would be like, this is freaking me out. Why are you trying to keep us in here?
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So shady. So. So I'm like, jesus Christ, what are we about to walk into? By the way, the sticker that they put over your camera was lips. Nice little touch. So we walk into this house, you guys, it's straight out of the 70s. I felt like we were in the movie Boogie Nights. It's like the blue lights in the pool, pink in the palm trees. Just, like, a few people mingled around here and there. But then they're, like, telling us to go. Go down the stairs and walk down. So we're walking down these stairs, and I'm not kidding. All of a sudden, it's like we turn the corner, and we enter a nightclub. There's like, a nightclub at the bottom of this house. Even with a room with, like, a cage with a stripper pole. We walk in. We all. We all said the same thing. It was like the door open, and this gust of heat just hit all of us. And we all were like, you like body heat. Like, the heat from all the dancing, the sweaty. Just. And the energy was so sketchy. It felt like a drug den. It felt like hookers. I didn't see one. I couldn't sit here and be like, I saw any foul play. I didn't see any drugs. I didn't see. But it just felt like that. Yeah, like that energy, dirty air. We were there for. I'm not kidding. Four minutes.
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Okay, so you get in there. Were there. A lot of.
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It was packed.
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Famous people.
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I don't even. I don't know. Not that I wasn't like that so
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who's the security for? I.
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That's what I like, don't understand.
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That's what's so weird. I feel like something really got. That was like a diddy party that must have got really. That they were like, trying to, like, had to have. Yeah.
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Because otherwise, what is what I mean,
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I would understand maybe if there were tons of famous people in there. They're trying to. But whatever.
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I didn't see anything. But I also, we were like, in our little group being like, we get the out of here. Like, we were all so creeped out. Talk about Taylor Farms. You know that feeling when you make a salad, you're like, oh, wow, I'm so healthy. Look at me. I'm being a responsible adult. Well, with Taylor farms chopped salad kits, it's easy to get your salad together. They come in so many flavors. They have sweet kale, caesar, avocado, ranch, mediterranean crunch. I love them. They're super fresh, crisp, delicious. And actually my whole family loves them, too. The best part is everything is ready to go in seconds. No chopping, no slicing or leaving half a cabbage in your fridge. Fresh greens, yummy. Dressing and toppings, it's everything. You just mix it up and you give yourself a round of applause. I love these so much. Obviously, with busy nights, running around between sports with the kids, it's a really easy way to get a salad on the table for dinner in seconds. And when I go into the office, these are so great to be able to just grab and go for lunch so I don't even have to think about what I'm going to have for lunch in the morning. I just grab these. And guys, if I can do it, you can too. Grab a Taylor farms chopped salad kit and get your salad together. Okay, guys, let's take a second to talk about the realreal. I am so excited that, let's be honest, is now sponsored by the realreal. The best place to shop. Authenticated luxury handbags, clothing, watches, and so much more. I shop and I actually sell on the realreal. I have four for years. Which is nice because it's great for the environment because you are reselling all of your clothes. But also it's nice to make a little something back on some of my clothes. Even though all of the money that I make goes right back to buying other things on the realreal. And you guys, it's kind of a great place to buy presents if you want to buy someone an awesome designer handbag but you don't want to spend the full price on, you can Shop smart. You can find pieces from the brands you love like Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Louis vuitton, Tiffany Co. Cartier. I mean the list goes on and on and there are so many more at up to 90% off retail. Unlike other resale sites, everything the RealReal sells is authenticated in person by luxury and fashion experts. The RealReal offers attainable luxury to upgrade your personal style. The RealReal is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale with over 10,000 new arrivals daily. No one does resale like the RealReal and now get $25 off your first purchase when you go to therealreal.com/honest. That's realreal.com/honest. To get your $25 off, start shopping now at therealreal.com/hearly we all have those nightmare scenario moments that make your heart race. When you're lying in bed and you realize you didn't lock the front door or you've left for the day and you remember that the song stove is still on. Or even worse, you get home to find that someone's broken a window. Well, ADT understands how unsettling it is to feel unsafe at home or unprepared for an emergency. That's why they're here for the moments when every second counts. With customizable security systems that keep watch 247 with the most company operated monitoring centers in the industry, with technology that enables first responders to send help even faster. And because they understand how important your space is to you, their ADT plus app allows you to check in on your home from virtually anywhere so you can rest easy knowing that everything's okay. ADT helps make sure your home is your haven. Not another thing to worry about when every second counts. Count on ADT. Visit ADT.com to learn more. This is a new one that I'm excited to talk to you guys about. And it's mill. Food waste is one of those problems that feels huge and honestly impossible to fix. But here's the wild part. Most food waste comes from our own homes and that means we actually can do something about it. Mill is the odorless, effortless, fully automated food recycler. Potato peels, avocado pits, chicken bones, even dairy. Mill takes almost anything while you sleep. Mill quietly transforms those scraps into nutrient rich, shelf stable grounds. I love this so much. So I have a mill and I actually just put a garden in and so I'm using all of my grounds for my garden so it's just all around such a great thing And I'm so excited about this. Try mill risk free for 90 days and get six $75 off at mill.comhonest and use code honest at checkout. That's $75 off at mill.com honest and use code honest. Mill.com honest and use code honest. Okay. So then there was another party that we went to and this, you guys. I walked into a rap party. It was Chris Brown was. I'll say these names. Chris Brown was there. Ty Dolla, like that crew. And I was like, what am I doing here? Also like, how did I get here?
B
How did you get.
A
I don't know. So that's why it also felt like 2006.
B
I would probably like that party though.
A
It was fun. We were dancing and having.
B
I feel like people in that environment just like really let loose.
A
People want to have a good time.
B
Yeah.
A
There's nothing like shady like people just having.
B
I'll go to that one that you
A
would have loved that one. But like, remember in the early days, you're just like chasing a party and
B
like running around la la is though, because it's like, I remember that thing. You go out, everyone's chasing something.
A
Yeah.
B
Trying to go to the next party or whatever. And like, you guys just make it fun. I'm always like, you can make anything fun.
A
By the way, we said later, we were like, we should have just stayed at Todd's house with our crew.
B
Yeah.
A
That's always would have been. I know, I know. Why do we do that? Chasing a good time.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, I was excited to go out because I haven't been. I mean, when was the last time I went out?
B
Like out like that?
A
Yeah, we've gone to dinner, but I mean, I haven't been to a party or anything like that.
B
God, I love a party.
A
I know.
B
I love a party, but I don't like a dirty party.
A
Not.
B
I don't want to be around any of that dirty energy or a ditty party. No.
A
So we also. We were there for like probably 30 minutes, honestly. And then our original crew from earlier in the night just went back to the same athlete's house, had a little nightcap, did a little recap on the night. And by the way, when I got back to the house, I went to open it. My. I saw the lips on my. My camera. I opened up my phone to the camera. It did absolutely nothing.
B
What do you mean?
A
Like, even though there was a sticker on it, it didn't cover a goddamn thing. And I could have easily taken a photo it's like you rookies, you don't even know what you're doing.
B
So covering the camera for why I'm so obsessed with this party.
A
Well, that's what I don't understand. Like.
B
Like, I feel like it got real
A
dirty later because by the way, we walked in at probably 11. Yeah.
B
Kristen. So like by like 1:30 in the morning, it was probably nasty there.
A
That's how. And honestly, that was the vibe that I got. Just, I was like, who are these people? And the outfits that these girls were in. And by the way, like, I'm not one to judge, but, like, they took slutty very literally. Like in just lingerie and stuff. Just. Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting. It was interesting.
B
You were in a full gown, though.
A
Yeah.
B
Long sleeves. Yeah. Good turtle. I like that baggy pants, baggy top,
A
but black and nude with your Doc
B
Martens just come stomping in.
A
Oh, my God. So that was my night. I didn't go to bed till 3:30. I woke up at 8 and got straight on a plane and came home. But here is the good news. I met a really cute guy at the wrap party. He's not a rapper. Not a rapper. And he's friends with my friend Sophie. And so we've been talking. He got my number and we've been talking.
B
What are the vibes like?
A
He's really sweet. He's really cute. He's younger than me, which is by a lot. Nine years. That's. I've said I've got two. Two big boundaries moving forward. Older than me and already has kids.
B
Yeah, I like those rules.
A
Yeah. But here we are, no kids. 30.
B
Are you guys chatting quite a bit?
A
We're chatting. And I think he's gonna come to Nashville next weekend.
B
No, I think so.
A
And not stay with me, but like, just take me on a date, take me to dinner.
B
Really?
A
Yeah. Otherwise I'm not going back to LA until the end of March, so. Which I guess is like a little. Like a month. A little over a month. It's not that bad, but. But it's interesting because you literally have said on the podcast every time you go to la, you meet a guy. I haven't talked to a guy in months. I ended.
B
Yeah, well.
A
And no, I haven't even had one man in my family.
B
Yeah, no, but it is true every time you go to la. But it's also just so much more social and.
A
Yeah, I don't.
B
I want to say people are more approachable or not. Are coming up to you more in la. Yeah, there's just a lot more going on.
A
Well, on a night like that, I mean, I. I don't know that I've ever really had a night like that in Nashville. I just think it's different.
B
Well, and way more single people in la.
A
I know. That's what it is.
B
So many more singles.
A
There's way more single.
B
You never meet single people here. Like, when you go out, everyone's with their partner.
A
Yeah, that's so true.
B
We're in God's country. Married, Christian, you know, everybody got their
A
partner and they don't believe in divorce.
B
Yeah.
A
So.
B
So they could be very unhappily married, but they're married.
A
And so I'm sol shit out of luck.
B
But it is true every time you go to LA also, like, you just kind of have that vibe. Like, you like that, like, amped up energy, you know, it's like meeting a guy out, like a. In a situation like that. You like when it's fun and exciting.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, I get it. It makes total sense to me and
A
I really am manifesting meeting someone in real life.
B
Yeah. And I also think that guys in those situations or in LA have more confidence coming up to you.
A
I agree.
B
I feel like some people here, where they wouldn't approach you like, oh, she wouldn't be into me. Or.
A
I agree.
B
Whatever. People think that that's your world.
A
Totally. And I. This guy is really confident and I do.
B
And I saw some pictures of you. I mean, you were on cloud night. You were like lit up, hands up in the air.
A
I was having a good time.
B
Yeah. She's my little party girl.
A
I was like, it's Valentine's Day, I'm going out.
B
Valentine's is a good day to go out though, with like, you're single. Because if you think about everyone who's out is single. Who.
A
Or they're cheating, by the way, though. So one of the actors and an athlete that I saw that night are in relationships and they were not with their significant others. And I was like, that's interesting.
B
Like, I cannot imagine if I told Scoot I was going out on Valentine's Day. Like, I'm just gonna go out to a party. Like, I'll catch up with you tomorrow. On what planet does that work?
A
I don't.
B
So they're not real relationships or like.
A
Right.
B
That's not a real relationship. And I don't even like Valentine's Day. I think it's so stupid. Like, it's just. I hate those kind of Forced holidays or whatever. Especially, like, if you're really in love. Like, you're like, give each other. We did, like, give each other cards.
A
I can't imagine you guys.
B
No, but I was, like, sitting at a dinner together with a bunch of dorks on Valentine's Day where the food is so disgusting. The food is so gross. Yeah, I would never go out to dinner, but anyways, I would also never go to a party by myself.
A
No, I was sitting there like, where are the girls? Where are the girls? And what do they think right now? So confused. Wait, another thing, too, I wanted to talk to you about is. Can we talk about the word dating and what it means? Because I think guys and girls have different opinions on what that word means. Like, and I was just having this conversation with someone. To me, right? If you go on one date with someone, you're like, I went on a date with him.
B
Absolutely.
A
Great. If you go on two, three, four dates, aren't you, like, I've been dating him. I've been. What do you say?
B
Yeah, but then what about if you talk to people who live in LA mostly, or, like, New York, who are going on multiple dates a week with different people? Like, they could go out to dinner with you on a Monday, then another girl on Wednesday, then see you again the next Tuesday, which isn't necessarily wrong because you guys aren't committed to each other. But then. So he's dating three people, so.
A
I know. So that's where it gets tricky, because I think for guys. Guys think dating is when you're in a relationship, which is sort of to your point. Right. Like, you don't just go around saying you're dating everybody. Yeah, I guess, too. One of the podcasts I did, where I think it was with you, where I was talking about how I was seeing that guy in la and. Or no, maybe it wasn't with you, but I was like, this guy that I'm dating, meaning I've been on a few dates with him. And it became a headline. Everyone was like, kristin's dating someone new. And I was like, no. Oh, my God. I'm not. That's not what I'm saying.
B
But I feel like it's also the way that you say it. Like, if you're just kind of like, talking to a few of your friends who know your story, and you're like, oh, I'm dating this one guy right now, or whatever. But when you say it on a public platform like that, people think that you're making an announcement, being like, I. Yeah, but no, I'm with you. It's like you can date someone, quote unquote, for weeks before you're even committed.
A
A thousand percent. So what do you say in the, like, the first month and a half, let's say, where you've been on a handful of dates, but you're not exclusive, you're not committed to each other yet. What is that called?
B
I've been seeing this guy or I've been hanging out with this guy. I remember when I was singing, I used to always talk to the hanging out thing. Hanging out, you know.
A
Okay. But to me, if I said hanging out, it sounds like I'm just sleeping with him.
B
Yeah, I was. So that was my story, you know, so. Right. No, but yeah, I think that everyone takes it different ways. But dating, to me, feels like you are seeing the exclusive. Yeah, yeah. It's different for everyone. You know, I haven't been single in so long. I mean, it used to be called going steady back when I was. We used to say, going steady.
A
Going steady.
B
I'm going steady with her.
A
And you give him a ring, a promise ring.
B
In elementary school, did you guys ask people out? Yes. Like you would, like, officially ask them. I asked her out. Like, we're. We're going steady. No, I actually. We didn't say steady. My mom used to always say steady. We're like, mom, don't say that.
A
Maybe you're right. Maybe we didn't say it.
B
But going out with.
A
Going out.
B
Yeah. Who are you? Going out?
A
Yeah. My kids even say dating.
B
Do they really?
A
Yeah, but probably because I do with them.
B
Okay, so the reason that you're asking about the term dating is because a few of the guys that you saw that night said, oh, I'm dating somebody. And you're like, where are they?
A
No, I think for some reason it's just been on my mind lately, and I've had this conversation with a few people and I've gathered that men definitely have a different opinion about it, which is dating means we're exclude. Like we're in a relationship. But I think. I think I struggle with, like. Well, what do you say? Like, even that guy in la, when I was like, I'm. I guess I would be like, I'm kind of dating someone.
B
This new one.
A
No, no, no, no. The one.
B
Oh, my God. I was like, girl, pump the braid. Oh, my God, that was embarrassing.
A
I'm in a relationship. What if I was that crazy? And I came on the podcast, I was like, so I'm seeing something and I haven't even hung out with him yet. And then he heard it and he's like, this is crazy.
B
Oh, my God. But even I think that the last guy that you talked to in la, saying him, saying he's dating you, that's a little aggressive.
A
I don't know that he said that. Oh, I sort of.
B
You were saying it.
A
I. Yeah, I guess I said it on a podcast. But not meaning, like, no, no.
B
And I know why. That's what I'm saying. Like, when you say it with your friends, like, let's say you and I, you're like, oh, well, I've been dating him for a few weeks. Or like, oh, that one guy that I'm. I was dating. Or whatever. I would get what you're saying. Meaning you went on dates with him, you have a couple dates, but then let's say you were talking on a podcast and you're like, I'm dating this guy in la. That sounds like you're committed to that person.
A
One of the media outlets. Because Jack, my publicist, called me and I was like, no, Jack, you have to kill that. I was like, no, that's not what I said.
B
And he's so embarrassing for you.
A
I know. I'm like, I'm not dating. I don't want people to think I'm dating someone. So I was like, you have to kill it. And he was like, they're saying you said it on the podcast. You said, I'm dating someone.
B
I was like, oh, my God.
A
I was like, I've been on multiple dates with him.
B
Ew, I hate that. That's so embarrassing.
A
I know. So then I don't think.
B
I mean, he would love it, though, the guy, if he heard it.
A
You know what's so funny, though? I don't know if he ever saw or heard anything because he never said
B
anything or maybe put it together. He could have thought it was an old. Whatever, maybe.
A
And I guess I can sort of.
B
Or he's probably smart enough to know, like, she's not talking about me because we're not dating.
A
Because we're not dating. Yeah, he's like, who is she dating?
B
Oh, God, that would kill me, though.
A
That's the thing. The podcast is not good for my player mentality.
B
But I also think that people who listen to you enough, like, you talk real casual. Like, if you were actually dating someone, you probably also wouldn't talk about it. Like, if you were really serious with a guy, you probably wouldn't talk about
A
it until I knew what it was,
B
because you'd be protective. But saying like, oh, I'm dating people. I'm dating multiple people, you know?
A
Exactly.
B
I'm more interested in, like, so going back to the guys in la. Like, when you have a girl girlfriend, like, do they say, like, oh, my girlfriend's not here tonight, or this girl that I'm dating.
A
So this.
B
Because I would be so offended if, like, back in the day when I was in scoot and I first were really together and we're in love, I would want him to be like my boyfriend, my partner, you know, like, if he was like, oh, I'm dating this guy. Excuse me. Right?
A
Because it's like a diff. There's like layers.
B
Like, layers.
A
One of these athletes the other night said he had a girlfriend.
B
Oh, straight up, girlfriend.
A
He did say girlfriend.
B
Okay, we like that.
A
Yeah. But he was still single on Valentine's Day that night, so.
B
So where was she?
A
I know, I know.
B
That's so weird to me.
A
I thought it was very strange. And especially the actor, like, very public with his girlfriend, very. And solo.
B
But so many of those things. And that's just where LA is so creepy and gross. Because so many of those things, it's like a setup or it's like a deal. Like, we have a deal. Also, some of those kind of guys, like, they set the term. I'm with my boys on Valentine's Day. Could you imagine a guy telling you, like, I hang with my boys on Valentine's. Okay, go suck your boy's dick. Then, like, we're not together anymore.
A
Goodbye.
B
Like, I can't believe the stuff that unfortunately women will put up with for some of these men. I know, I'm like, you.
A
Well, then I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't just assume the worst, right? Maybe like, she's working in another country or, you know, they're. There are variables. I guess it just doesn't have to be the worst case scenario.
B
But she's like a traveling bartender. What do you mean? She had to work on Valentine's night. Like, who works on Valentine's night?
A
Traveling bartender. No, like, if she's a model, let's just say she could be like a big shoe. Valentine's Day.
B
Oh, out of town.
A
Like, a good example actually is I was in L. A shooting for Uncommon James. Maybe my boyfriend was back home in Tennessee.
B
Yeah, I mean, that would make sense. Sense. But you. But you wouldn't have gone to that party if your boyfriend was alone. You would have been home eating sugar fish with Char. Right. You know what I mean?
A
Right? I would have been.
B
That's the thing that I'm saying. Like what? Because when you're going out to parties like that in la, it's not for like just a gab. You're not going out to like meet buddies and chat. You're not going to a party where you wear horny outfits or sexy horny.
A
You're right. Okay, so that's my issue with these men is they put themselves in situations that should could go down when like yes, stay home.
B
Also, what about out of respect. If you were with a girl and you loved her and let's say she is a traveling bartender and she's at a big gig that she has, you know, across seas or whatever it is, you know. But she's out of town. But you love her, right? And it's Valentine's night. Wouldn't you want her to know that you were staying home? Like I would do that for scoot. I'd be like sending pictures of myself in bed every couple hours.
A
Right?
B
I want to be out at a party on Valentine's night.
A
Sketchy parties until 3am that's the love night.
B
That's. You're looking for love and sex and like to fill a void on Valentine's night.
A
Not me, apparently. No, it's.
B
You didn't hook up with anyone?
A
No, I haven't hooked up with anyone in a minute.
B
Oh man.
A
I haven't even kissed. I haven't kissed anybody in years.
B
That's a bummer.
A
It's whatever. And everyone. You know what, Whatever. It just pisses me off that the sometimes the hate I'll get always from guys is like. Like what a I am. Right? Because.
B
Oh God.
A
I'm like, if you only knew. If you only knew the lack of any physical touch that I've experienced in my life in the last six years.
B
But also like you couldn't easily count how many people you've like, you are the furthest thing from a slut. I saw this video on Instagram the other day where there was like the sex counselor and she was talking and she literally said the number of. She was like, I've slept with over a hundred men. And she was like this woman like in her 50s or whatever and she was just being talking about it. She's like so blah, blah. The thing was about connections and sex and whatever. She's a therapist. All the comments were all these men being like a hundred men. You're just. And I think 100 is a big number. But I'm not judging you.
A
But guys can do that.
B
And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, think about a dj. Like, how many women has Diplo hooked
A
up with every time this person. Yeah, any famous man has hooked up with? Over.
B
Yeah, yeah. I'm also so not a, like, shame or whatever. I'm very sex positive. Very. I think people should explore whatever they want to until they're in a relationship and they commit to somebody. But, like, I would never judge that,
A
you know, Like, I wouldn't either. Well, we wouldn't judge anyone on anything. Like, go do whatever the hell you want.
B
But you know, who judges? Well, whatever. People who are just.
A
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B
Yeah, we made, like, a big dinner together. We watched. What did we make that night we love?
A
Did you help him make dinner or.
B
Yeah, I did.
A
Yeah.
B
And I got him a beautiful flower arrangement, wrote him this really amazing card that even got him to, like, tear up a little bit. Scoot does not cry, and he.
A
He's words of affirmation, so that goes a long way.
B
Yeah, he lit up when, like, he loves that kind of stuff.
A
He told me he's like, justin got me flowers, and he hasn't done that a really long time.
B
Yeah, it's been a long time. We're not like, flowers people, you know, I get it. But it was perfect for that day.
A
Cute. Did he get you anything?
B
He gives me something every day. It was just the gift of Scoot. I mean, the way that that man takes care of me. No, it was like, yeah, he's just over the top with everything.
A
No, he's the best.
B
But we're. We're that couple that always says things like, we're not getting each other anything. This past Christmas, we're like, this year is not about gifts. We're not doing gifts, you know, like, because we buy whatever we want and for each other. We're constantly giving each other things. I don't. Like forced holidays. I don't know, like, they bug me. It makes me mad to be, like, out with all the people looking. Even when I went to get the Flowers. I'm like, I'm such a geek right now, you know?
A
Like, did you go on Valentine's Day?
B
Yeah, yeah, I went on that day. What? I'm gonna get like a week old flowers. An arrangement for a week before. Oh, that's a good idea. I went to this really cute place by Urban Market. They have a cute.
A
Which.
B
It's a flower shop with a coffee shop and it's adorable. And the girls right there.
A
The same.
B
Yeah, right on the corner. It's really, really cute. They have good arrangements and they're good to know.
A
Good to know. I love that. Well, good.
B
Yeah.
A
And then we saw Wuthering Heights.
B
Oh my gosh, that was so good.
A
Sobbing.
B
We were sobbing after. You know, it's so funny, the online discourse. Is that the word for it? Like the way people are talking about it online? People are very fired up about it. They either love it or they hate it. And I don't quite understand it because I know. I guess they changed. I read the book. They changed quite a bit from the book. Why are people so afraid of, like, change? There's been like four Wuthering Heights movies already.
A
Oh, have there?
B
Yeah, there's been a bunch. I went back and rewatched the really old one the other night and it was terrible, to be honest. Margot Robbie one's much better. And that's my opinion. If you love the original, you love the original. But like, it's a made up book. It's a fantasy book. It's not like they're changing history. So why are people so mad about that?
A
I never read the book. I, to be honest with you, knew nothing about the story.
B
It's actually a bad book.
A
Like I've heard that.
B
It's not. It's not very. I remember reading it in junior high and then I read it again in high school and when we talked about in class, we were all kind of like, it's kind of a dumb book.
A
I actually haven't heard anything good about the book from anybody.
B
So I feel like what they did with this movie actually made it really interesting. Dark, twisted to me, I loved it.
A
I loved it. I thought the movie was so good. And I. I guess if you have an idea of it already in your head to your point, people, people don't really love change and so it's hard for them to wrap their head around this new version of it. I had no, no expectations going into it. I want to see it again. I haven't stopped thinking about it.
B
I want to go back for sure. And I want to see in the theater.
A
I want to see it.
B
You have to go see it in the theater because it's like the whole experience of it, you really get sucked into the movie. It's just absolutely beautiful. And I could watch Margot Robbie for hours. She's just so stunning to look at.
A
Her face is perfect.
B
Yes, Beautiful. I did her hair. She's so hot.
A
And she's so sweet. Right.
B
She's the nicest person. She's one of those actresses that's very, like, dedicated to her craft. Like, she's. She was always, like taking notes while I was doing her hair for projects that she was working on. She's very into it. She's not into the fame side of it. You know, she's very chill. The nicest, coolest person. And I love when you see somebody like that just get tons of success. I mean, when you look at Margot Robbie, I mean, her movies bring people to the movie theaters. No one goes to the movie theaters anymore. No one's going to see it. But like, that movie did really, really well. Barbie crushed it.
A
She's killing it.
B
She has that thing that just really sucks you. And she's just like an old school actress. Like, beautiful, obviously, but then so good.
A
There's like, she's. She's so beautiful, but there's this girl next door quality about her that makes her relatable and like, you want to be her best friend. She's threatening because you like her so much.
B
Who would be a threatening actress?
A
I think Angelina Jolie was really threatening for women.
B
Oh, yeah. And that bitch cheated, so we didn't like her for that.
A
America hated her.
B
Yeah. One time I got a call to get to do Angelina's color and I had to say no because Jennifer was my client. Could you imagine if I tried to do the two of them at the same time?
A
No.
B
But then also with that. I never judge people. Like, I mean, whatever.
A
I know, but there's got to be some loyalty, right? Like.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying also from the outside, whenever there's a cheating scandal and everyone wants to hate the cheaters or whatever's happening, I'm also like, but how long did they know the relationship was over? You know, because there's things can happen and I'm the most like, I love relationships. I'm so protective of mine. But if something did happen between Scoot and we cheated, I'd be like, the relationship was probably over for a while,
A
you know, And I'm sorry, but we've probably talked about it. Why are we blaming the woman?
B
We need to blame you always.
A
We have no idea what Brad Pitt told Jennifer. Angelina Jolie. For all you know, he was like, no, we're done. It's over. Like, you just don't know. It's the guy.
B
Biggest thing.
A
He's the one in the relationship, and who knows what he's saying?
B
Well, and then to add on to that, that's why I always get so mad, too, when people want to blame the woman if the woman cheats or whatever. Because for a woman to cheat means she's really unhappy. She really wants to get out of it. Right. For a guy to cheat, it could be anything. The guy could be in a good, stable relationship and just want to hook up with someone on the weekend. Yeah. They think with that little bit women, it's emotional. Yeah. So it's emotional. And that's why I'm like. That's why I always give a little bit of grace. Grace to the woman, because I'm like, what? Why was she in that situation? And you're exactly right. What was the guy saying to her? Oh, we haven't slept together in months, or we haven't even seen each other for. In months.
A
You know, like, exactly.
B
Guys are. They're shady.
A
Very shady. Yeah, very shady.
B
You know who got a lot of that hate, too? And she's a friend of mine. I love her. But Leanne Rhymes. And, you know, Leanne, we love Leanne rants. But when Leanne Rhymes, her thing happened. She got so much hate. And then now look at them. They've been together for, like, I know, 15 years. The most beautiful couple. And everyone wanted to hate her because the country music world is really hard.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, they, like, shut her down
A
because he was with Brandy. Right.
B
And. And, yeah, I think Brandy's great and fun to watch on tv, and I love her on social media and stuff. But who knows what the relationship was like at that point. He could have been miserable for a lot, whatever it was. But my point is because that's right when I started doing Leanne's hair, we became friendly. I love her. Greatest person ever. But it was, like, terrible. The stuff that was being. You know, you post pictures of your clients online or whatever. So I would, like post a picture of Leanne Rhymes hair color. The comments were just like, she's this guy. She's a cheater. I was like, oh, my God. Wow. You know, like, so people. Do they do it to the women.
A
There are those instances where there was maybe a little overlap. A Little cheating involved, but they do end up together, like for the long term. I mean, I can think of a couple other relationships. And so, you know, again, you just never really know what's going on or being said behind closed doors.
B
Have you ever been cheated on? Oh, well, maybe. Yeah.
A
Yeah, I think so. I don't really have 100% proof, but I've got like, pretty concrete proof.
B
I wasn't asking that for a specific reason, by the way. I really was like, blanking.
A
But now you're.
B
And I remember last doing that little investment to get it work well.
A
And I didn't know until after the relationship was over. Which honestly, thank God, because had I found out in the relationship, it would have ruined me. But when I found out a couple years later, it was like, think, you know, all thanks for validating what I already thought I suspected. I just didn't know for sure.
B
It is the worst thing in the world and what it can do to somebody. Like, if you think you're in a relationship and you are really in love and you think. And. But then to find that out, but
A
it is not to. Not to. What's the word? Minimize it in any way or make an excuse. But when this alleged cheating happened, I can kind of understand it because we were.
B
That's big of you.
A
Kind of. I was. We were kind of done. And you know, if I say anything more people.
B
Yeah, but like, I can.
A
I can understand it.
B
But even that, I mean, that's really mature of you. There was one relationship that I was in that I got cheated on and I found out and it just crushed me. But like, my Scorpio side, I got the worst revenge in the world. I can't even say it on here because it would. Yeah, but people would judge you. Yeah, they would judge me. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I mean, I love that about when I need to get revenge on somebody. It's like, scary.
A
I love that.
B
But I was.
A
I wonder, will you tell me as soon as we're done?
B
Yeah, but I was so broken when it happened, you know, Like, I really had no idea. And looking back on that particular person kind of had like a sex addict. Like, when people say they're a sex addict, they really were. It had nothing to do with our relationship. When would travel, they would kind of look for that. But when I discovered it, I was broke. I was much younger too, you know,
A
it was so hard.
B
It messed me up for a while. And there is nothing worse than, like, being in a relationship where you feel like you need to check someone's phone or like, look, I will never do
A
that, you know, if you have that feeling.
B
Yeah. And that's how I found out. I had this weird feeling and I started going through stuff, finding, you know, and searching and then sure enough, found it, you know? Yeah, you have that feeling. But I mean, Scoot and I've been together for like 12 years. I've. I don't know his password on his phone, but I would never even need to, you know, and like, that to me is the most important thing in the world for a relationship. I can't be jealous or not trust people. To me, everything is about trust.
A
Without that foundation, you have nothing. Yeah, I will say too, in my experience, if someone is projecting, right, if someone is accusing you of cheating, it's because they are.
B
Yeah, that's a hundred percent what it is.
A
And I used to be like, I am literally not doing anything.
B
That's so what it is, is the projecting. Because then also that one situation where they were cheating on me would always accuse me of it or be like, who are you talking to? I know you're talking to other people. I'm like, on what planet? Also, like, I wouldn't be in a relationship if I was doing that. Like, to me, cheating is so dirty and gross. I'd be way out of the relationship before that happened. But the projection. And then once I found, I'm like, that's why you were saying it, because you were doing it, you piece of. Yeah, it's so gross the way people manipulate and turn. And that's why I feel bad for people in younger relationships. That's why that show drives me crazy. Tell me why it makes me so mad. Because it's like, if you pulled yourself out of the situation and realized that Steven is a pile of girl, like, move on. It makes me so angry when especially younger women have to deal with that stuff. The way that men are sneaky and disgusting.
A
I think that's why that show is so relatable. Because I think most people at one point in time have experienced that toxic relationship. And when you are in it, you can't see it. And all your friends are like, he's crazy. What are you doing? And then when you finally get out, you're like, whoa.
B
So that's why women are so drawn to that show. People love it. They love that show.
A
I think it's relatable. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, maybe I wasn't in college, but like, I've been in those dynamics and it jives you fucking Crazy.
B
Yeah. And we've talked about. I mean, we love a little bit of, like, toxicity. Back in our 20s, like, I loved a little bit of toxic relationship where now I could never do it. If there was anything toxic about even my friendships. I can't do any. But I used to love a little drama back in the day. Yeah.
A
I think. Me, too. You know, you kind of. I think in your early 20s, it's like you thrive on it.
B
Yeah. And even the people that you're attracted to, you kind of are looking for a little bit of drama. Like, you know, you're not supposed to be with them.
A
Oh. As fun as it was, I'm like, it just sounds exhausting.
B
I don't miss it at all.
A
I like peace now.
B
Yeah.
A
Too much, apparently, because. Yeah, I'm by myself every night. It's fun to have you back.
B
I love being here. I'll come back.
A
We'll make it more of a regular thing. If the date goes well, we can. We can regroup. But don't hold your breath.
B
Let's have model interview him.
A
My new boyfriend.
B
That would be so fun. After, like, he comes into town, you guys go to one dinner, and then the next morning, I do a recap for the two of you. Could you imagine if you asked him that, like, hey, I want to do this thing? That would be so funny. Which, by the way, I would love it. But, like, could you imagine you, like, pitching that to somebody?
A
Right.
B
Oh, my God. We've done worse, though.
A
Thousand percent.
B
I always think about this one time that Kristen had this guy come into town, and we loved him. He was a great guy. I really liked him. He sent you the singing video. Oh, so we loved him. He was fabulous. I really liked him. He flew into town to meet Kristen for the first time. No, no. You went there first. Then he came to Nashville. We all went to dinner. We go to a party. After Kristen left him with Scoot and I at the party, we partied with him all night. And then you went home.
A
Like, he stayed at the party all night? Yeah, all night.
B
It's a group project when people date you.
A
I also.
B
Allegedly, I.
A
Allegedly. I think that night, too, I was like, I'm over it. You know what's interesting is, like, I can like a guy in their city, on their turf. As soon as someone comes into my world, I'm like, ew.
B
Do you know that? That makes so much sense to me, though, because it's also, like, I'm way more fun when I travel. Like, I love to go to a New city.
A
Yeah.
B
But yeah, if I had to be single and someone came here, I'd be like, oh, you want to sit on the couch and watch a movie? Like, I'm so boring. Or then, yeah, I couldn't do it.
A
I think I've only had one guy come to this new house and I didn't. That was not an ick to me. But like, you did.
B
Oh,
A
right after my boobs. Right after my surgery.
B
No, you had who?
A
Oh,
B
God. One day, though, like, when we're old and gray, nobody cares anymore about anything that you say. I want to tell those stories because that one was really, really fun.
A
In. In 10 years we can tell that story.
B
You sent me a screenshot of you guys texting the other day, and you sent it to me, said like, Greg Gilmore at the top. And you're like, oh, my God, look what he's texting me. Or whatever, because it's been going on for a long time or whatever. And then I was like, I also. We talk about this a lot. Kristen always is like, justin, I think that you're losing your memory because I don't remember things a lot. So I was so afraid to ask him. Greg Gilmore. Greg Gilmore. Who the fuck is Greg Gilmore? So then finally I wrote to her, like, kristen, I'm so embarrassed to say this, and maybe this is my memory, but I don't remember who Greg Gilmore is. And I. And she was dying, so sorry, that's a fake name. She had to put a fake name in cuz her kids know who this guy is.
A
My kids would be like, what the.
B
That was funny.
A
That wasn't even a thing, though. That was just like a talking thing. But it was like, what the am I doing? But I'm telling. In 10 years, we can say all the names. All the names.
B
It would be funny.
A
God. All right, well, on that note. Yeah, I go tan my vagina.
B
Are you going to do it again? Are you now? Are you going to be like a.
A
I'm gonna be addicted.
B
It makes you feel so much hotter.
A
I love it.
B
Also, I cannot look at my white body right now when I get out of the shower.
A
I felt so gross, honestly, before my spray tan. And now I'm like, I'm back.
B
Well, and living here in Nashville. My God, my skin's never been this color.
A
You didn't know you could be this way.
B
I did not know I could be this white. Also, my hair's never gotten this dark because it's not in the sun that much. But this time, specifically, what month are we in February.
A
Yeah.
B
But February, ugliest month of the year.
A
Why? Because we usually work in a beach trip in the winter, and we didn't.
B
We haven't. And I just look like potato. Like a white potato. It's so.
A
Bro, we just need to be tan and blonde this summer.
B
Yeah. Yeah, we do. Also, I just read something. My God. It's been stressing me out. They say that the two times that you age the quickest in Life are at 45 and 60. I just turned 45. I'm not kidding. I look. I know I look great. I'm a beautiful. I'm a handsome man. I'm great. I take care of myself, whatever. But all of a sudden, you start looking at yourself. I'm like, that's not me. Or you, like, see things. Like, your face just changes a little bit. I'm also like, I'm not worried. I want to be a handsome and just, like, go with age or whatever. But it is a real thing. 45. And then also the way that you feel. I feel a little bit older.
A
I feel a little bit slower.
B
Yeah. And just kind of like, you know, the other day I went to jump off of a step, and I said, should I. Should I jump off these two steps? Can my knees handle it? Are my ankles going to be all right? I don't know. Yeah. And then I jumped and fell. But that also made me think. Now I'm doing Pilates, like, three times a week because I'm like, I am going to keep this body working for the rest of my life. And I've also been saying these things. You know, I do all the big, like, muscle things. But now I'm like, I want to be skinny. I want to be Pilates. Yeah. I want to be able to stretch. I want to be able to move.
A
Yeah.
B
All of a sudden, I feel it. It's interesting. But I also just makes you want to, like, party really hard. Like, you got to party. You do. You have to, like, keep the game going. You have to keep moving.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Because everyone says the quickest way to age is to just be sedentary on your. Yeah. Sitting. So you got to keep moving. I'm like, we need to keep our vacations going. I need to be a discotheque, like,
A
a thousand percent in Greece, you know,
B
I want to have my hands up in the air, dancing.
A
I will keep.
B
But it keeps you young. That's why you see also those, like, rich kind of guys who, like, they do all the yacht trips and stuff. Yeah. Like, those dirt Bags. They're hanging out with those younger people. It's going to keep them young.
A
It's going to keep them.
B
Keep them moving.
A
It's true.
B
You know, then we look at, like, one of our grandparents or someone who sits home all the time, and they just limp around. You got to keep it moving.
A
Yeah, you do have to keep it moving. And you need, like, goals. Even, like, body goals. Like, okay, I'm gonna be on the beach this summer. I just.
B
Just.
A
You want to, like, look good still. I think you look the best you ever have.
B
Thank you. I feel. I thank you very much. I appreciate that. It's little things that you notice about yourself where it's just kind of like, oh, that's a little bit different. I know, but you go with it. Guys have it so much better. It's so much. I mean, so much easier, not better.
A
But you're allowed to age.
B
Yeah, but women, it's like, so hard on women. That's why I will never judge anybody who gets any work. And people talk about just do whatever makes you feel good. Good. Because you have this. I mean, I don't think it always looks that great.
A
I mean. Yeah, right.
B
But you can't judge because I just
A
ordered some pillow off Tick tock. Now I'm back on tick tock. I'm ordering all these things. And it's like. Yeah. So that your face isn't. Because I'm always smushed.
B
I have that, too.
A
Does it work?
B
I don't. Stay on it.
A
Okay. And I got that huge eye. Fluffy eye mask that's supposed to keep you from.
B
I can't do any of those.
A
I rip all the. Off in the middle of the night.
B
People are trying to tape their mouth.
A
I put tape under my eyes and ring.
B
Well, you look good. So something's working.
A
I rip it off in the middle of the night sometimes. I woke up this morning, all four were still on. I was like, oh, it was a good night.
B
It's a hard balance, though, because the. They say the biggest thing is, like, water and sleep. Right. But then you got to keep moving, so. I know.
A
So I'm sleeping like an animal, and that's creating wrinkles.
B
Yeah.
A
The. Are we supposed to.
B
I've been sleeping like a rock lately.
A
That's good.
B
And I want to know what it is because I want to keep it going.
A
Right.
B
Because, you know, we've been talking about that. I've been having issues with sleeping for a while, but all of a sudden, scoot and I, like, wake up in the morning we don't set alarms or anything.
A
Yeah.
B
But we wake and we're like, did we just sleep nine hours? So something's really good right now.
A
My mom has said that there's just, like, ebbs and flows of sleep, like, throughout your whole life. And usually I sleep really great. Couldn't sleep to save my life last night.
B
Really?
A
I looked at my phone at 11, and I was like, how have I not fallen asleep yet?
B
And then I'm like, where you wanted to go to seven hours?
A
Yeah, I went to bed at nine.
B
What was on your mind? Be honest.
A
Honestly. Work stuff. Like, good stuff, collabs and stuff that we have going on. But it just. I'm, like, really excited about a lot of stuff right now, so I'm, like, playing it all in my head.
B
That's why I don't work anymore.
A
Smart.
B
Yeah. No dreams, no goal. I'm sleeping like a baby. No dreams, no goals. But the excitement stuff does keep you up. Yeah.
A
Because I'm like, okay, then I want to do this, and I'm gonna do that. And it's. It's whatever. Anyways, on that note, I love you. Thank you for being here.
B
I love you so much. Thanks for having me, guys.
A
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Release Date: February 24, 2026
Host: Kristin Cavallari
Guest: Justin Anderson
In this candid, humorous, and unfiltered episode, Kristin Cavallari and her longtime friend, celebrity colorist Justin Anderson, reunite to spill everything about Kristin’s wild Valentine’s Day weekend in Los Angeles. Their conversation meanders from conspiracies about celebrity clones to spray tans in very intimate places, a “slutty” LA party, Hollywood relationship drama, and honest talk about dating, cheating, aging, and everything in between. The tone is playful, irreverent, and confessional—nothing is off-limits.
Timestamps: 00:01–02:26
Timestamps: 03:00–16:30
Timestamps: 11:23–18:47
Timestamps: 25:43–30:55
Timestamps: 31:32–36:40
Timestamps: 30:34–41:19
Timestamps: 41:19–44:38
Timestamps: 59:10–62:51
Timestamps: 49:25–56:11
Timestamps: 56:12–63:47
| Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Pop culture conspiracies/Joking about clones | 00:01 – 02:26 | | Kristin’s LA trip & Lauren Conrad recording | 03:00 – 05:13 | | Slutty Valentine's party invite & prep | 05:14 – 09:29 | | Spray tans & intimate awkwardness | 09:30 – 11:23 | | Athlete/celebrity house parties | 11:24 – 18:47 | | Slutty Valentine’s party details | 18:48 – 24:40 | | House party with rappers – fun times | 25:43 – 26:25 | | Kristin meets a new guy, reflections on LA/Nashville | 27:59 – 30:55 | | Valentine’s relationship ethics | 30:34 – 36:40 | | Sex positivity and slut-shaming discussion | 41:19 – 44:38 | | Cheating, projection, and toxic relationships | 49:25 – 56:11 | | Aging, beauty, staying young | 59:10 – 62:51 |
This episode radiates the signature mix of blunt honesty, cheeky humor, and bestie energy that defines Kristin and Justin’s friendship. Listeners are invited into the real-life messiness of singledom, celebrity circles, and personal insecurities—with a side of LA gossip and relatable confessions. Perfect for anyone who loves inside-Hollywood banter, raw conversations about self-image, and the comedy inherent in dating after divorce.