Breaking Rules Is Really Fun With Cam, Jax, and Saylor

Summary

Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari: Episode Summary Episode: Breaking Rules Is Really Fun With Cam, Jax, and Saylor
Release Date: June 3, 2025

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I. A Special Gathering of Favorites

In one of her most heartfelt episodes, Kristin Cavallari welcomes her three favorite people—Cam, Jax, and Sailor—to discuss a variety of topics encompassing school life, summer plans, entrepreneurship, and family memories. Opening the conversation with warmth, Kristin sets the tone for an engaging and honest dialogue.

Kristin Cavallari (00:24): "This is maybe the most special episode that I've ever done because I'm joined by my three favorite people."

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II. Embracing Summer and School Transitions

The conversation kicks off with the excitement surrounding the end of the school year and the anticipation of summer break. The children express their eagerness to embrace the upcoming holiday and the freedom it brings.

Jax (01:09): "Excited. Feels good. I hate school."

Cam (01:11): "Yeah, same."

Kristin reflects on how swiftly the year has passed, noting the family's expansion to include two middle schoolers.

Kristin Cavallari (01:16): "We have two middle schoolers in the family now. Moe, how are you feeling about being a big sixth grader?"

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III. Young Entrepreneurs in Action

Cam and Jax share insights into their burgeoning entrepreneurial ventures, highlighting their ventures into window washing and bag making. Despite challenges like inconsistent weather, their determination shines through.

Jax (04:08): "I've cleaned two. Yeah. One was our house, one was my house."

Kristin Cavallari (04:52): "Your businesses are booming and I'm very proud of you guys."

The siblings also introduce their sister, Sailor, and her burgeoning jewelry line, demonstrating the family's collective entrepreneurial spirit.

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IV. Behind the Scenes: Filming the Podcast

Kristin delves into the experience of filming the podcast with her children, sharing both the enjoyable and less thrilling moments. Cam and Jax provide candid reflections on the filming process, discussing everything from microphone mishaps to wardrobe choices.

Cam (20:22): "Some of it was boring. And then some was... fun."

Jax (21:33): "My outfit was really bad, so I liked it. I had a bad vanish on."

Kristin appreciates the authenticity her children bring to the show, noting how it contrasts with more scripted reality TV experiences.

Kristin Cavallari (22:46): "I will say you guys were very much yourselves, all three of you. It was really fun and cool to see that you guys were just like your normal, bubbly, fun selves."

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V. Cherished Family Activities and Memories

The conversation shifts to favorite family activities, with Kristin and her children reminiscing about shared experiences like playing Uno, visiting Putt Shack, and celebrating birthdays at local restaurants. They emphasize the importance of creating lasting memories together.

Jax (29:38): "I have favorite things to do with me and you."

Kristin Cavallari (29:45): "We get the same guy every time, though."

A touching moment unfolds as the family shares what they're grateful for, showcasing their close-knit bond.

Cam (32:09): "You."

Kristin Cavallari (32:19): "I'm thankful for everybody's health because classic. Classic. I do do that a lot, but it's important because without health, nothing else matters."

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VI. Health Insights and Personal Reflections

Kristin opens up about recent health tests conducted for her children, revealing that both Cam and Jax have been diagnosed with parasites. This vulnerable admission underscores the importance of health in their lives.

Jax (32:51): "I have parasites."

Kristin Cavallari (32:57): "Tianna does have parasites. And, like, no, I can't eat any acids."

They discuss the steps they're taking to address these health concerns, including dietary adjustments and forthcoming consultations with their doctor.

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VII. Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

As the episode winds down, Kristin expresses her gratitude towards her children for participating in the podcast, highlighting the unique experience of sharing her reality TV background with them. The family looks forward to attending Cam's final basketball game of the season and continuing their supportive journey together.

Kristin Cavallari (36:07): "Honestly, Cavalieri, it was a really fun experience for me to share that experience with you guys was really special for me."

The episode concludes on a loving note, with Kristin reaffirming her appreciation for her family's support and enthusiasm.

Kristin Cavallari (37:29): "I love you guys. Thank you for listening. And you little Cutler crew are the absolute best. I love you guys."

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This episode of "Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari" offers a genuine glimpse into the Cavallari family's dynamics, balancing the joys of summer and entrepreneurship with candid discussions about health and personal growth. Kristin's commitment to honesty fosters a relatable and engaging conversation for listeners seeking authentic insights into her life and those of her children.

Transcript

[Kristen Cavallari]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. This is let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality tv, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing.

[Jax]

Welcome in to.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Let's Be Honest, guys. This is maybe the most special episode that I've ever done because I'm joined by my three favorite people. We have Cam, Jax and Sailor. Hi, guys.

[Jax]

Hello.

[Kristen Cavallari]

How are we doing?

[Cam]

Good.

[Kristen Cavallari]

How are you guys feeling right now?

[Jax]

Excited.

[Cam]

Excited.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Are you excited to be here?

[Jax]

You woke me up for this.

[Kristen Cavallari]

But I did, because you have a basketball tournament today, so we had to squeeze this in before we go to your last. Your last games of the season tomorrow. But tomorrow's a holiday.

[Cam]

What? Oh, Memorial Day.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Tomorrow's Memorial Day. Yeah. So this is going to be airing in about nine days from when we're taping it, which is very exciting. You guys are officially out for the summer.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

How does that feel?

[Jax]

Excited. Feels good. I hate school.

[Cam]

Yeah, same.

[Jax]

I would agree. Then I'm finally done with sixth grade. It did flip. It did fly by, though.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It did go by fast this year went by really fast. We have two middle schoolers in the family now. Moe, how are you feeling about being a big sixth grader?

[Cam]

Excited.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Are you?

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Are you nervous at all?

[Jax]

No.

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, no. Are you gonna play football?

[Jax]

Yes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Tamara, are you gonna play again?

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You gotta talk into your microphone there, big guy.

[Jax]

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm gonna play football again.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. So what are the plans this summer? What are we doing this summer?

[Cam]

We're going to Australia with our dad in Bahamas. And Chicago with you?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Oh, first pitch. Go Cubs. Are we allowed to say that?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. Yeah, we can say. I don't think it's. I mean, I just haven't talked about it. I am throwing out the first pitch at the Cubs game in July. So you guys are going to come July 16th, right? I think it's the 18th or the 19th.

[Jax]

They're playing the Boston Road Sox.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So you guys will be there with me. That'll be fun. Beags will be there.

[Jax]

So we'll pop into Chicago. Pca. I hope that you see this. I love you.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Is that a player for the Cubs?

[Jax]

Pca? Yeah. Peter Armstrong.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What's his name?

[Jax]

Pete Crowe Armstrong.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. Well, so hopefully I love him.

[Cam]

How old is he?

[Jax]

Probably like 26. I'm not sure. Oh, never mind.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So hopefully we'll meet him when we're there for the why? For me?

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You know, we're not going younger ever again.

[Cam]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, honestly, I've been good about that. Well, I haven't really been dating at all, but if I were to. And when I do, I will not be going younger, I promise you. That was a one time thing. It was. I like that you're looking out though, Jackson. Okay, so what are you guys most looking forward to this summer?

[Cam]

Australia.

[Jax]

Sleeping.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Sleeping.

[Jax]

Sleeping and playing mlb. The show.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. Okay. So Sailor is excited for Australia. That's a big trip coming up for you guys. You guys are going to be gone for a little over two weeks. You're going with your dad. It kind of worked out because that's when I'm going to be promoting the show.

[Jax]

We're going to Gold Coast.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You are going to the Gold coast, which will be very.

[Jax]

I'm excited for the Bahamas with my friends.

[Cam]

I need a new suit.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You need a new suit. Don't talk about. We'll get. We'll get one. So Cam, you're excited to sleep?

[Jax]

Sleep.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yep, yep.

[Jax]

Big crucial part of my summer.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, Cam is officially in that phase now where he is sleeping and I woke him up at 10:30 today and he was out cold. So. So that's exciting. You've crossed over officially. And then Jackson, you're excited for the Bahamas because why?

[Jax]

Because we all get to bring a friend.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yes.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So we're going to the Bahamas for the 4th of July and everyone gets to bring a friend. And then Justin and Scooter coming with us. It's going to be a wild time.

[Jax]

Gays. Huh? I said the gays.

[Kristen Cavallari]

The gays. The gays are coming. Your uncles.

[Jax]

Yes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It's gonna be very fun. But also you guys have. You boys have little booming businesses. Why don't you guys tell everyone your little businesses that you have? Right. So it's usually part of it.

[Jax]

I do window washing and make bag.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. Well, you've cleaned one house.

[Jax]

I've cleaned two. Yeah. One was.

[Cam]

Rain was here, one was here, one.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Was our house, one was my house.

[Jax]

No, I did not clean three.

[Cam]

No.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Who?

[Jax]

I did one with him.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh yeah, you did that.

[Cam]

You did that one.

[Jax]

No, I would have more customers, but it's been raining non stop for the past like month.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It has been raining a lot. I know, I know. No, but it's great.

[Jax]

And the days that it's not raining, I best.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, you've been busy. But this summer now, hopefully it'll stop raining. You can get to more houses.

[Jax]

I clean trash bins you do clean trash bins.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Tell everyone how many houses you did the other day.

[Jax]

I think it was seven or six.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It's awesome.

[Cam]

How much money?

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, no, we're not going to disclose how much money we're making.

[Jax]

But I'm making a lot of money.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Your businesses are booming and I'm very proud of you guys. Daisy, we gotta get you doing something. What are you gonna do?

[Jax]

Jody owns jewelry.

[Cam]

Yeah, Mom.

[Jax]

Oh, let's plug.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Let's plug your jewelry collection.

[Jax]

Go buy it.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That's not the way to plug it.

[Jax]

My mom said.

[Cam]

UncommonJames.com Sailor.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I don't think that. I don't think it's slash sailor. But you can go to the Uncommon James website.

[Cam]

Sailor summer collection.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Sailor summer collection. Tell everyone the theme.

[Cam]

It's like beach theme.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. Yep. You're wearing the flamingo earrings right now.

[Cam]

And then the wave necklace.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yep. Which is your personal favorite, right?

[Jax]

Yeah, these two are my favorite.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And there's beads and shells. It's a great summer collection for little girls.

[Jax]

Did she choose the beach theme because, like, we're so far away from the beach. Like, she wants to be in the beach.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That was a good question. Why did you. Why did we go with beach theme? Do you remember?

[Cam]

I. We were just talking about it and we were like about to go to the beach, so I was just like, let's just do a beach scene.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, exactly. We were at the beach.

[Jax]

Flamingos weren't in the beach actually a.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Year and a half ago. Remember when we went to the Dominican and then we went to Miami and that's where we worked on it together?

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Wow.

[Cam]

I do not remember that.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, that was for New Year's like a year and a half ago.

[Jax]

Well, I know that, but like, when did you guys work on it? I don't remember.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, just when we were at the. At the beach and stuff.

[Cam]

Yeah, we designed it on truly.

[Jax]

Flamingos aren't in the beach.

[Cam]

Yeah, that doesn't matter.

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, it was just the all around beach theme. Flamingos are at beaches not in the Dominican, aren't they?

[Cam]

Sometimes. No, wait. Actually, no, I don't think so.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Where do flamingos live?

[Cam]

Zoos. Zoos.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, I know. Yes, but in the wild, where do they live?

[Jax]

The jungle.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Hold on.

[Cam]

But also not.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I'm looking this up.

[Cam]

No, but I feel like flamingos are like beachy thing. But they don't live in the beach.

[Kristen Cavallari]

They totally are. Beach theme.

[Cam]

They just don't live in beach.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Where do you flamingos live, you guys? They live at the Beach. Okay. Flamingos, primarily.

[Jax]

Shut up.

[Cam]

Let her read it.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Listen. Warm tropical and subtropical regions with their specific locations varying depending on the species. They are commonly found in areas with shallow saltwater or brackish water, such as lakes, lagoons, and coastal wetlands.

[Jax]

So not. So not a beach.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, coastal wetlands. Was that a beach?

[Cam]

No, I have no clue.

[Jax]

That's like a small, like, pond.

[Cam]

They're beach themed, but they just don't live in the beach.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So I guess they're more like, well, salt water.

[Jax]

Like tropical rainforest.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Lagoons, lakes. All right, well, whatever. It's still. I would classify flamingos as beach theme.

[Cam]

Same.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So there you have it. But, yes, your collection is very cute. It's done very well, so you should be very proud of yourself. So you guys are all little entrepreneurs. And I'm very proud of all of you.

[Jax]

Thanks.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You're welcome. So how late do you think you're gonna sleep in this summer, you guys? What's the latest you're gonna sleep in?

[Cam]

I usually wake up. When? Like, early. When it's not school. So probably like 7:30.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You think so? I know.

[Jax]

I'll sleep in until, like, 11:30.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Me, 11:30. Jackson.

[Jax]

I'll sleep until dinner time.

[Kristen Cavallari]

But, like, honestly, what do you think the latest you're gonna wake up this whole summer is?

[Jax]

The whole entire summer.

[Kristen Cavallari]

The whole summer.

[Cam]

Nine.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. What?

[Cam]

I'm at 9:30 today.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. Sailor's been waking up early, though. You boys are in your sleeping in mode.

[Jax]

You woke me up. I would have slept until.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You probably would have slept till noon. Honestly.

[Jax]

Probably.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You were out.

[Cam]

Whenever it's school days, I'll sleep in, but whenever it's not school days, I will not sleep.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know.

[Jax]

Of course there's sleep.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, I know. Well, maybe it'll transition a little bit this summer.

[Cam]

Maybe.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Moe, you think? How late, babe?

[Cam]

Oh, like 11:30.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I could see that. Yeah. I think the latest for me is gonna be like nine. That'll be really nice.

[Jax]

I feel like 11:30. Still early.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Early. What time have you been? Are you gonna be going to bed?

[Jax]

Midnight. Yeah.

[Cam]

What time did you go to bed last night?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, Good question.

[Jax]

Midnight.

[Cam]

I heard him. I saw that.

[Jax]

Bad.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Then it's kind of late. You heard him all the time.

[Jax]

But I was gonna wake up. I wasn't gonna wake up until, like, I don't even know.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, you knew you were gonna sleep, Ben.

[Jax]

Yeah, I always just love sleeping.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All right, what's the latest you guys are gonna stay up this summer?

[Jax]

They usually wake me up.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know, I know. Well, the dogs usually wake up me and Sailor.

[Cam]

Sailor usually wakes me up by playing with the dogs. The dogs waking up. So I have to yell at them to get out of my room.

[Jax]

And then you play, like back riding.

[Cam]

With them with our dogs.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So all the kids bedrooms are in the same, like, hallway, like right next to each other.

[Jax]

And our walls are paper thin for some reason. Like, I can hear Jackson talking.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, there's not a lot of insulation in the whole thing.

[Cam]

I can hear you.

[Jax]

Yeah, I can hear Sailors.

[Cam]

I can't even hear. I don't even.

[Jax]

All right, guys, chill out.

[Cam]

All I said is I.

[Jax]

Listen to him.

[Kristen Cavallari]

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[Jax]

Oh Man, I don't know.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I think about it for a second. What's. Okay, let's. What did we do this year?

[Jax]

Oh, wait, like, outside of school?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, we're in school. Either one.

[Cam]

There's nothing fun in school.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Nothing fun. It was fun, right then.

[Cam]

Let's hear it.

[Jax]

Are we, like, Cam 6 was so much fun?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, I think just probably being, like, a big middle schooler, having a locker.

[Cam]

Third grade was my favorite year.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Third grade has been your favorite year so far. What made it so fun?

[Cam]

Just, like, the teachers and the whole entire year, and we had, like, so much extra recess and stuff, and, like, so many parties.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I love it. I know I got to go to a lot of your parties this year, which is fun.

[Jax]

I mean, really, every single. Mostly, like, every single day was fun because one out of, like, four teachers just didn't care what you did, so. But, like, it would change. Oh, you guys are, like, in art. So for art, it was me and two, like, my really good friends.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Colin and Levi. We were all in that class. And this hooker was just, like. She didn't really care what we did, so she put us on a task of, like, we had to go to the front office and, like, take down some art stuff, and we just, like, did it, and we just, like, roamed the halls for the entire thing and just, like, messed her.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Did you ever get the artwork taken down?

[Jax]

I think the next day we did.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jax]

We had to. But, yeah, no, that was fun. Or, like, whenever. Like, the first time that I ever skipped class.

[Kristen Cavallari]

When did you skip class?

[Jax]

At the very beginning. Before we had agendas. Because now you have agendas, and you have a teacher has to sign it before you can leave the room.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. Well, that's smart. What did you do when you skipped class?

[Jax]

Just take your phone into the bathroom.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You just hung out in the bathroom for an hour?

[Jax]

We have nowhere to go.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. So why are you skipping class?

[Jax]

You could be on your phone.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, my God.

[Jax]

Or whenever. I brought my phone in my first class. That was fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So, okay, basically what I'm getting is anytime you guys are breaking rules, it's really fun.

[Jax]

I brought it. We had a sub, and I brought it into the class. It was Mr. Miles class. Hope he doesn't see this.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. I'm like, you guys should. You need to be careful what you're saying.

[Jax]

Watch.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You're gonna go back to school next year, and they're gonna be like, we know everything you did.

[Cam]

A lot of people say fourth grade, like, sucks.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Why no.

[Cam]

No.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Did you boys like fourth grade or. No?

[Jax]

Yeah, I love wood grid.

[Cam]

There's a lot different teachers. Yeah, there's.

[Jax]

Yeah. Megan, Michelle.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, yeah.

[Jax]

Well, I know the fourth grade teacher.

[Cam]

The fourth grade teachers this year aren't gonna be here next year.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You know what I just realized? I. Because, like, I just went on the field trip with Jackson or. I did all the field trips with Jackson this year. I did them with you last year, Cam.

[Jax]

Punch was soft, other than the rats.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know, but. And then, sailor, I went to all your parties. Once you guys hit middle school. I don't get to go and do stuff like that at school.

[Jax]

Well, I go to D.C. you get.

[Cam]

Two more years of it.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. With you. I do.

[Jax]

I go to D.C. in eighth grade. Then eighth grade. Do I.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Can I go on that?

[Jax]

It's like a week long trip.

[Kristen Cavallari]

There's no parents on that.

[Jax]

There might be. I. I feel like there is, but it's like two grand to go on it. And you go to like all the museum stuff.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I remember doing that in the last.

[Jax]

Yeah, I. I want to go on.

[Cam]

I thought you had to be in like choir or something to do that.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That'd be fun. No, I don't think you being choir to do that. Jackson, what are you doing over there, baby?

[Jax]

I don't know. What is like picking my favorite.

[Cam]

What field trip though? Or my favorite memory.

[Jax]

Can I ask you something?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, hang on. Let him talk. Okay. What's your favorite memory, babe?

[Cam]

This town.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Biz town. Tell everyone what biz town is.

[Cam]

It's like a mini town. And there's like FedEx. Different shops. Like different shops.

[Jax]

Yeah, and then you get a job.

[Kristen Cavallari]

So everyone has a job.

[Jax]

Can I explain it better?

[Kristen Cavallari]

You can help him explain it. Sure.

[Jax]

So it's basically a mini town and everybody is assigned their own job and you have to basically run it. And if you don't run it, you get fired.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. So that's basically what Jackson just said.

[Cam]

Thanks for helping me explain.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Everyone has a job. It honestly is so fun because it is this mini town and it's like Amazon and there's a bank and there's the pet shop. And I was City hall with Jackson this year. Last year I worked at Journeys, the shoe store. And Camden was the CEO of the bank last year. And Jaxie, you were the CFO of City Hall. Two very big, important jobs.

[Jax]

Mine was the biggest job, though, other than the mayor, because I have school. Couldn't get the marriage. You go for like two schools?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. You guys were with Another school say that. I can't wait to see what you get in two years. That is a very fun day.

[Jax]

She'll get CEO of the Philanthropy Center.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I could see that 100. Or like.

[Jax]

Yeah, what's that?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Or like, at the pet shop or something. Like, make stress because don't you want it? What do you guys want to be when you grow up?

[Jax]

Basketball player.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay, so basketball now, I would agree. Jaxie. You too, babe.

[Cam]

They wanted to be in the NFL.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. Me too.

[Jax]

Either one works out.

[Cam]

I want to be in the NBA.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay, so you guys both want to be pro athletes, particularly NBA.

[Cam]

Oh, like the Ball Brothers.

[Kristen Cavallari]

The Ball Brothers. I like that.

[Jax]

No, that's an actual thing. I know it's an actual thing.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It's a real thing.

[Jax]

Don't no one at the Ball Brothers.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What does it mean?

[Jax]

Well, it's the Lonzo ball. So it's like Lamello ball. Lonzo ball and the Angelo ball. They.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All Those are brothers.

[Cam]

Okay, we'll pretend there's only two.

[Jax]

But I'd be official. Ball's not even.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You guys could be the next ball.

[Cam]

I'd be Lamelo because he's the youngest and he's the best.

[Jax]

You have no right hand. He can't jump with his right hand. No, mom, he'll. So I'll play defense, like, behind him. And he'll be driving with his right hand. Well, trying to drive with my hand. Why don't we play and he does, like, a little crossover. And it. It's.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, you're older than him. You have more experience. A couple years on him.

[Cam]

I want to.

[Jax]

I can't deal with my left hand. No.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. Save it for the court. Save it for the court, gentlemen. Sailor. What do you want to be, baby?

[Cam]

I want to be a vet.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You want to be a vet? I love that because you do. You're so good with animals. What's your favorite kind of animal? Boys?

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Guys, Guys.

[Cam]

Horse, probably.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You love horses. You rode horses yesterday with our neighbor. Yeah. Very fun. Yeah. You've been riding horses for. God, five years. Five years. Long time. You're also very good with the dogs. You're just a big. You're an animal whisperer. I would say you're also. So you're doing a cheerleading camp next week?

[Cam]

Why does that matter?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, I'm just saying. We're talking about summer. What you like doing cheerleading camp. And you just said you want to start playing volleyball, too, right?

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That'll be fun.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All my little athletes. You guys are so cute. Okay. Let's talk about. Honestly, Cavalieri, and your experience filming the show. What did you guys think about filming?

[Cam]

Some of it was boring. And then some. Was it. Some of it was, like, fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What part was boring?

[Jax]

Yeah, what part was boring?

[Cam]

When we, like, talk.

[Jax]

When we talked. No, we were. It's not like we talk like a family of.

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, wait, I'm so curious. What part was boring? I remember we talked whenever we talked.

[Jax]

Whatever we ate.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Doing that.

[Jax]

Remember whenever we ate dinner and we had to talk to each other when we. Just, like, silence.

[Cam]

No, when you were just, like, sitting down. Just like.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Are you talking about the most recent thing that we did?

[Cam]

Oh, yeah. But also, like, other stuff.

[Jax]

Hey, speak up, buddy.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Right? I got. I feel you. I feel you.

[Jax]

What I did.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What was the most fun?

[Jax]

Put them putting the mic on you, and then. And then you be like, check, check. And then they'd look at you and be like, I remember that you guys.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Loved having a microphone.

[Jax]

Whenever I would have seen you, I was like, say hi to the fans. You was like, what up?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, that's cute. That's in the show. Yeah, that's in the first episode. It's really cat. You guys have seen the first two episodes?

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You guys like them?

[Jax]

Yes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You like them?

[Jax]

Yes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What did you like, Jackson? Did you have fun filming for me? Yeah.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You did?

[Jax]

Yes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Was it what you expected? Like, going into it, what did you guys think filming was going to be like? Is it.

[Jax]

I thought it was the same. I think. Yeah, I just thought I saw. Did come put some cameras up.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jax]

Put some mics. And then we just, you know, talk and film.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I will say, like, it was a really fun, easy experience. Out of all the TV shows that I've done, it was the easiest in the sense where they just sort of, like, let us be ourselves instead of telling us what to say every time.

[Jax]

I don't think anything. Any of it was really script. Except the last part. She told us some questions.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, well, it was a pickup scene. Pickup scenes are always kind of the.

[Jax]

Worst to what she was in there.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You missed the last scene. He was Adam.

[Jax]

It's going to be the very last scene.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, well, so, yeah, anytime you do a reality show, then they have what's called pickup scenes, where they are now putting the episodes all together and they realize, like, oh, they kind of want a scene here. So the three of us had to do a pickup scene. And that those are a little bit more forced of like, let's talk about tour. And, like, how.

[Jax]

And I had to do laundry.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You were doing laundry. But you guys do do your own laundry. That's real.

[Jax]

That's true.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That is real.

[Jax]

Although, no, I don't know if Jackson does.

[Cam]

Jackson never does anything.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You guys are supposed to. I think Jackson's done it three times in the whole year.

[Jax]

The two things that he doesn't do.

[Cam]

Is shower and laundry.

[Jax]

Mom, I do it like once every, like four days.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, you're on it.

[Jax]

I do it. I don't like having once.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. You're pretty. You're. You're pretty good. Were you guys nervous to film at all or. No? No, I will say you guys were very much yourselves, all three of you. I was. It was really fun and cool to see that you guys were just like your normal, bubbly, fun selves. It was really cool.

[Jax]

My outfit was really bad, so I liked it. I had a good vanished on. It was like too small on me.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, that's okay.

[Jax]

And my bleach buzz was so bad.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, you really went for it with your hair right before filming.

[Cam]

No water to get home with me.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, you can have some water, babe. What would you say you liked when the microphone was on? What about, like a particular scene? Was there like. Like we made dinner one night.

[Jax]

No. What if we had to eat dinner at 4:30?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Did we eat dinner at 4:30? Yeah. That's pretty standard for me.

[Jax]

The standard for you. I'm not eating till like seven. I'm not eating.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What about in the morning? So they came over in the morning to get ready for school and then followed us to school.

[Jax]

I remember the first time the camera wasn't working, so she just filmed it all on her phone.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, my God, I forgot about that. You have a good memory.

[Jax]

Well, I came out, I was like, what's this? And then after. After you were like, the camera broke. I was like, oh. I was like, is this entire thing gonna be filmed on a phone?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, yeah. I wonder if they've used any of that footage.

[Jax]

I doubt it.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I don't know. I think they might have, but now I can't remember.

[Jax]

Like, it was the very first morning.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know. I can't remember which morning was which.

[Jax]

The mornings were kind of, like, boring, I feel like, because we didn't. We were all just, like, tired.

[Kristen Cavallari]

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[Jax]

With them, with all of us.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Stop. Play uno.

[Jax]

Play in a.

[Kristen Cavallari]

No, literally, what is it? Maybe like, I like going out to.

[Jax]

Dinner, drive to school in the morning.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That's your favorite thing to do.

[Cam]

It's kind of bad that we don't have one.

[Jax]

Maybe.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know I'm offended. Go cartoon.

[Jax]

I have favorite things to do with me and you.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. What?

[Jax]

Oh, you don't even know what me and you. Push it.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Putt Shack is fun.

[Jax]

That was fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Putt Shack is really fun. We're gonna do that this weekend, actually.

[Jax]

I was down 60 bucks. I got you.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jax]

I still never paid you.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. Wait a minute. You owe me money. You owe me a lot of money.

[Jax]

I do owe you a lot.

[Kristen Cavallari]

For a big. On, like, date night. Like, one on one date nights with.

[Jax]

I wouldn't really say it's a date night because then go to jail.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It is a date night with my babies. Jackson, we just went to Bourbon Steak in Nashville for your birthday.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That was fun. What else do you guys like doing as a family? I like going to Hibachi with you guys.

[Jax]

I love hibachi.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Hibachi's fun.

[Jax]

We get the same guy every time, though.

[Kristen Cavallari]

We do.

[Jax]

And he, like. Does he?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, he. I know.

[Jax]

He's like.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I know.

[Cam]

Why is your arm red?

[Jax]

Why is your arm red?

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Jax]

What is cool.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Jackson drew all over himself on the last day of school, and he. Or he. You had people sign your body. Right.

[Cam]

And you still hung up to.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Did you do that instead of your yearbook? Did you have everyone sign your body? I had my yearbook sign so that. You had people do both.

[Jax]

Okay, then.

[Kristen Cavallari]

But we have been playing a lot of Uno together. That is fun. Kim, you just said that there's. I guess there's a new Monopoly and it has a debit card now.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah. The electronics. I want to get. That is so much fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay, so we'll get that.

[Jax]

I would cook everybody. I'd be the baker.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I want to be the baker.

[Jax]

It's like the person who does, like, the credit card transactions.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, the banker.

[Jax]

Yeah. But, you know, everybody's balanced.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I got you. Yeah, we should get that one.

[Jax]

It's so much fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I love Monopoly. I will. That'd be fun.

[Jax]

It's really fun.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All right, well, we haven't actually done this in a minute, but we used to do it all the time. When we would eat dinner, we would all go around and say three things that we're thankful for.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

We're grateful for it.

[Jax]

We ran out of time.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah. So I want everyone to. You guys can just say one thing. What's one thing that everyone is grateful for?

[Cam]

Jackson?

[Jax]

Peter Armstrong. Who? Peter Armstrong.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Is that, like, at the Cubs player? Why are you thankful for him?

[Jax]

Because he's on pace to be the mvp. Hopefully. Hope Aaron Judge, like, falls off that PCA is mvp, so.

[Kristen Cavallari]

But why are you personally thinking, like, what does that do for you?

[Jax]

Because he wins club. Because he wins games for the Cubs and he hits home runs. He had a grand slam against Cardinals like, two nights ago.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And you love the Cubs.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah, I love the Cubs.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All the Chicago teams you love.

[Jax]

He was like, oh. And like it was about to go fast and it didn't. And he did like, he bat flips everything. Like, even if it's a foul ball, he still bat flip. And he did a crazy bat flip, just like Sailor.

[Kristen Cavallari]

What about you? What are you grateful for, babe?

[Cam]

You.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, my angel. My little angel baby. Oh, sweet Mosi. Land. What?

[Cam]

Land.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You're thankful for land.

[Jax]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Why? Can you speak into your microphone?

[Cam]

Oh, yeah. Land.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Why are you thankful for land?

[Cam]

Freedom.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay. I love that. Okay. I'm thankful for everybody's health because classic. Classic. I do do that a lot, but it's important because without health, nothing else matters. And I'm really happy for especially all three of your health.

[Jax]

I've been having to take a little.

[Kristen Cavallari]

We did the boys, we tested their guts, their vitamins, minerals, all the things.

[Jax]

I have parasites.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Tianna does have parasites. And, like, no, I can't eat any acids.

[Jax]

I can't eat any more tuna.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, no, you can have tuna periodically. Your mercury was like, teetering on being in the nuts safe zone. But you can eat it periodically just to be mindful.

[Jax]

Too many parasites, bro.

[Kristen Cavallari]

And then, Jackson, we're talking to our doctor this week, actually, about your results. So we will see what's going on with Mr. Jacksono, too. TBD on that. Are you nervous, Jackson, for that? No. You're not nervous? No. What if you have to take a bunch of supplements, too? Are you gonna be able to take pills?

[Cam]

Well, I can swallow pills on, like, Camden, so. Yeah.

[Jax]

Yeah, I can't swallow pills yet. Yeah, I swallowed one. I swallowed one. Nice, Camden.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You're learning. Wait, Jackson, can you really swallow pills?

[Cam]

I feel like he has before.

[Jax]

So he can do it without water?

[Cam]

I can do it without water.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, no, you're right. I have seen you. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's aggressive without water.

[Jax]

Yeah, it's really good. Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, Cam, we've been having to put his pills and smoothies and get him down that way. But we get you get him down. You do get him down. What else, you guys, is there anything else you want to say to everybody? No. Is there anything you want to ask me?

[Jax]

Oh, the bears are going to Win the Super Bowl.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Okay, great. Putting that into the universe. We love it. What else? Anything else?

[Cam]

How was the experience on the tour?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, that's a nice question. Se.

[Jax]

Rhodey asked that in the show.

[Kristen Cavallari]

You did ask that on show.

[Cam]

That doesn't matter.

[Kristen Cavallari]

We will discuss it on the show. But the experience was amazing.

[Jax]

What was her question?

[Cam]

She, like, whispered it. How was the experience of the show?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Of the tour?

[Cam]

That's what I meant.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Of the tour. It was great. It was one of the best experiences of my career. Honestly, it really pushed me out of my comfort zone, and that was really great. And if I do it again, I want you guys to.

[Cam]

How about that drunk guy? Like that drunk guy on your podcast?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, Talon.

[Jax]

Talon. Yeah. Yeah.

[Cam]

Oh, you still talk to Talon?

[Kristen Cavallari]

I do still talk to Talon. Yep.

[Jax]

He was him. It was funny. Whenever you went, you're like, you've had enough alcohol.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, yeah. And he was like, yeah. So. But when everyone listens to this, they will not have seen the episode yet. But, yeah, it was. What did you guys think of that? No, you can promote it.

[Cam]

It's 11 o' clock in the morning.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Stop drinking. Did I say that?

[Jax]

No, just.

[Cam]

It was that.

[Jax]

No.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Yeah, well, he had been drinking all day. No, no, he's right. He's right.

[Jax]

He's a daydreamer.

[Cam]

Cam, I watched both of them. You only watched one?

[Jax]

Yeah, I watched one with Tone.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, the second one. I think that's the second one.

[Cam]

No, Cam, you watched the first one. No, he watched the second one.

[Jax]

I watched the second one.

[Cam]

Yeah, I remember he came in because he was going to take his shower, something.

[Jax]

Oh, yeah.

[Cam]

And then he came back.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's gonna be a good episode. In the moment, I was not too happy, but it at least makes for a good TV episode. And, yeah, what I'm gonna do is actually, after all, each episode airs. I'm gonna do a little podcast recap. So that'll be good. But if I do another tour, I want you guys to come out for it. I think it'd be fun.

[Cam]

Calm down. Yeah, I do that.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I'd be like, you do it, Momo.

[Jax]

Yeah, yeah. Would you just be a.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Are you sure you'd want to stop? Well, I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast. I appreciate.

[Jax]

You're welcome.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Filming. Honestly, Cavalieri, it was a really fun experience for me to. You know, reality TV has been such a large part of my Life for over 20 years, and to be able to share that experience with you guys was really special for me, so I appreciate you guys doing it.

[Jax]

I. Yeah, it was pretty fun.

[Cam]

Yeah.

[Kristen Cavallari]

All right, well, I love you guys and Camden. We're gonna go to your last basketball game. Hopefully, you guys crush. All right.

[Jax]

You've gone like, she's coming.

[Cam]

No, I'm not.

[Kristen Cavallari]

I thought you were coming today. Jackson, you're coming, right? You said you were gonna come, and then we're going to the grocery store.

[Cam]

Oh, I'm coming now.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Oh, because we're going to the grocery store. Yeah.

[Cam]

We have no good snacks at all.

[Kristen Cavallari]

That's why I need you guys to come with me, which is always a horrible idea because the cart is overflowing.

[Cam]

And wait, what time do we have to leave?

[Kristen Cavallari]

Just thought, so we're gonna go probably eat a little something, go to Cam's game, and then right after, we'll go to. Well, like, in, like, 40 minutes or something.

[Jax]

We should leave in 40 minutes.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Well, hang on, let me think about this. If the game is at 1:20, you want to be there at 1. We'll leave at 12:30. So we're leaving in 50 minutes. 5. Zero.

[Jax]

So it's 11.

[Kristen Cavallari]

It's 11:39 currently right now. All right, and there's our schedule for the day. I love you guys. Thank you for listening. And you little Cutler crew are the absolute best. I love you guys.

[Jax]

Love you.

[Kristen Cavallari]

Bye.

[Cam]

Yeah.